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MolliG
03-11-2004, 07:05 AM
All pictures from www.aeronautics.ru.

BMP-1

http://www.aeronautics.ru/archive/armored_vehicles/apc/bmp1_1.jpg

http://www.aeronautics.ru/archive/armored_vehicles/apc/bmp1_2.jpg

http://www.aeronautics.ru/archive/armored_vehicles/apc/bmp1_3.jpg

http://www.aeronautics.ru/img001/bmp101.gif

http://www.aeronautics.ru/img001/bmp102.jpg

http://www.aeronautics.ru/img002/chechnyamilapc07.jpg

http://www.aeronautics.ru/img002/chechnyamilapc40.jpg

http://www.aeronautics.ru/img002/chechnyamilapc44.jpg

http://www.aeronautics.ru/img002/chechnyamilapc47.jpg

http://www.aeronautics.ru/img002/chechnyamilapc46.jpg

http://www.aeronautics.ru/img002/chechnyamilapc35.jpg


BMP-2

http://www.aeronautics.ru/archive/armored_vehicles/apc/bmp2_1.jpg

http://www.aeronautics.ru/img002/chechnyamilapc04.jpg

http://www.aeronautics.ru/img002/chechnyamilapc08.jpg

http://www.aeronautics.ru/img002/chechnyamilapc06.jpg

http://www.aeronautics.ru/img002/chechnyamilapc12.jpg

http://www.aeronautics.ru/img002/chechnyamilapc17.jpg

http://www.aeronautics.ru/img002/chechnyamilapc25.jpg

http://www.aeronautics.ru/img002/chechnyamilapc33.jpg

http://www.aeronautics.ru/img003/chechnyamilapc75.jpg

http://www.aeronautics.ru/img003/chechnyamilapc66.jpg

http://www.aeronautics.ru/img003/chechnyamilapc54.jpg


BMP-3

http://www.aeronautics.ru/archive/armored_vehicles/apc/bmp3_3.jpg

http://www.aeronautics.ru/archive/armored_vehicles/apc/bmp3_15.jpg

http://www.aeronautics.ru/archive/armored_vehicles/apc/bmp3_4.jpg

http://www.aeronautics.ru/archive/armored_vehicles/apc/bmp3_2.jpg

http://www.aeronautics.ru/archive/armored_vehicles/apc/bmp3_5.jpg

http://www.aeronautics.ru/archive/armored_vehicles/apc/bmp3_9.jpg

Mo
03-11-2004, 09:40 AM
what is the BMP-3 armed with, looks like two main weapons?

REMOV
03-11-2004, 10:20 AM
http://www.imageshack.us/files2/ResizeofBMP-3UAE.jpg
BMP-3 from UAE

Kingpin
03-11-2004, 10:25 AM
what is the BMP-3 armed with, looks like two main weapons?

You're right.
100-mm semi-automatic and 30-mm automatic cannons.

Javehn
03-11-2004, 10:25 AM
Nice picture , REMOV . Is the picture from IDEX2003 ?

Thomsen
03-11-2004, 10:48 AM
http://www.aeronautics.ru/archive/armored_vehicles/apc/bmp3_15.jpg

Is this not a little awkward to get out of the IFV?

Shadow
03-11-2004, 10:55 AM
http://www.aeronautics.ru/img002/chechnyamilapc33.jpg
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Ian H
03-11-2004, 02:44 PM
Thanks for those

Are the ATGMs not carried on the 1 and 2 any more?

And yes, that hatch arrangement on the 3 looks pretty complicated, how does it work?

AK-Lover
03-11-2004, 03:05 PM
http://www.aeronautics.ru/img002/chechnyamilapc33.jpg
I wouldn't be smiling! That baby will turn any human being out to 2500m to pulp fertilizer! See how chechen terrorists contribute to Chechnya, by fertilizing the soil! rofl

Operation Ivy
03-11-2004, 03:05 PM
woot woot woot

Nikolas
03-12-2004, 04:42 AM
BMP3

http://topgun.rin.ru/images/400_28.jpg

http://topgun.rin.ru/images/400_29.jpg

GazB
03-12-2004, 05:49 AM
The guns on the BMP-3 are a 100mm medium pressure rifled gun that fires a very powerful HE Frag round to 4km in its early form and 7km in its current form. It can also fire a 100mm ATGM to a range of 5km. The missile is laser beam riding and can be fired on the move at ground or slow flying aerial targets like Helos.
Mounted next to it is a 30mm Chaingun called 2A72. (It is different from the gun on the BMP-2 and Mi-28 and Ka-50 helos called the 2A42, but uses the same ammo). The difference between a chain gun and a normal cannon is that the chain gun(ie 2A72) is chain driven and can be fired at any rate of fire up to its maximum rate. If a round fails to fire then it is ejected and the weapon continues firing. A normal recoil fired weapon (2A42) generally fires at a much higher rate but must carry explosive blank rounds to recock the weapon if a round fails to fire to eject the dud round and load a fresh round. Both are dual feed and a flick of a switch is all that is needed to change from AP to HE and back again.

If you look at the photos from the front of the vehicle you will see that there are three positions in front of the turret. The centre position is taken by the driver, while on either side of him are the support gunners. They each have a fibre optic sight for the weapons mounted in the front corners of the hull. The weapons can be PKT machineguns with 2,000 rounds each or 30mm automatic grenade launchers with 300 rounds each.


Is this not a little awkward to get out of the IFV?

Yes, but having the engine in the back means the BMP-3 can maintain its amphibious capability and extra armour packages are easier to fit without upsetting the balance of the vehicle too much.

Abbyy
10-29-2004, 03:35 AM
BMP-3

http://rusarmy.com/wallpapers/bron2/bmp_bmp-3/bmp_bmp-3_800%20001.jpg

Steel21
10-29-2004, 03:48 AM
Thats what we should have bought instead of the Stryker.

Although thinly armored like the rest of its IFV brethrens, it has 3 Mg, 1 30mm and a 100mm...... and still pack guys on the back

Gonestly, I didnt know you could pack that many guns on a vehicle :D

Honestly, who would take a Styker over a BMP3? granted they can both be fitted with slat armor.

Steel21
10-29-2004, 03:49 AM
But of course, only if Genral Dynamics made it.... sigh

FDF_Hemppis
10-29-2004, 03:57 AM
Can I join the party with BMP-2 too?

<img src=http://tietokannat.mil.fi/aalto2004/include/thumbnail.php?id=360&width=640>
Hi-Res (http://tietokannat.mil.fi/aalto2004/include/thumbnail.php?id=360)

<img src=http://tietokannat.mil.fi/aalto2004/include/thumbnail.php?id=361&width=640>
Hi-Res (http://tietokannat.mil.fi/aalto2004/include/thumbnail.php?id=361)

<img src=http://tietokannat.mil.fi/aalto2004/include/thumbnail.php?id=430&width=640>
Hi-Res (http://tietokannat.mil.fi/aalto2004/include/thumbnail.php?id=430)

<img src=http://tietokannat.mil.fi/aalto2004/include/thumbnail.php?id=495&width=640>
Hi-Res (http://tietokannat.mil.fi/aalto2004/include/thumbnail.php?id=495)

Images Đ Puolustusvoimat / The Finnish Defence Forces

NicNZ
10-29-2004, 06:51 AM
Ill just contribute my Avatar to this thread ;)

Enjoy the flames
&lt;-------------

tenda
10-29-2004, 09:01 AM
...the bmp's veichles are great i love the design...!!!!!! ;)

BTR-80
10-29-2004, 09:17 AM
Thats what we should have bought instead of the Stryker.

Although thinly armored like the rest of its IFV brethrens, it has 3 Mg, 1 30mm and a 100mm...... and still pack guys on the back

Gonestly, I didnt know you could pack that many guns on a vehicle :D

Honestly, who would take a Styker over a BMP3? granted they can both be fitted with slat armor.

Stryker is wheel armour while BMP-3 is track armour.They r no the same category for comparison! Stryker pack with more speed on roads and wheels r easy to maintain than track! Doesn't US army has Bradley and pack with plenty of offensive too?

aartamen
10-29-2004, 09:39 AM
Affectionally known as Mass Grave of Infantry.

bison3255
10-29-2004, 10:16 AM
great pic of BMP-3's
http://www.army.lv/photos/265.jpg

Azide
10-29-2004, 12:18 PM
Affectionally known as Mass Grave of Infantry.

...as well as any other light armored carrier.

tenda
10-29-2004, 12:19 PM
Affectionally known as Mass Grave of Infantry.

...as well as any other light armored carrier.
...pratically a family of ammobox with many small wheels....!!!!! rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl

aartamen
10-29-2004, 12:28 PM
Affectionally known as Mass Grave of Infantry.

...as well as any other light armored carrier.

Not true. At least M-2/3 and Stryker are a lot more survivable, others may be as well. I doubt many other designs have fuel cells in doors and combustible armor.

Kekkonen
10-29-2004, 12:28 PM
I have not personally had much to do with the BMP-1īs, or Pbv 501 as they are called
here, but I have a friend that served as a commander on one, and they also had a couple
of those at my regiment i got a chance to look at, sit in and so on. I donīt think itīs a very
bad vehicle in any way, except that in typically Russian style itīs built for people that
are maximum 170 centimeters long. Itīs also dangerous for the crew (also typically
Russian) which has led money countries (Finland and Sweden to name two) to remove
the automatic loader.

When Sweden got the BMP-1īs in the early 90īs, the Army was surprised to find that
it was a pretty good vehicle after all, ever since introduced in the Soviet Army, the
Swedish conscripts during the cold war had be learnt that it was a total piece of
**** that they didnīt have to worry, throwing sticks at it would make it blow up,
basically.

http://www.vif2.ru/users/archived/armoured_G/BMP-1P.jpg
One interesting version is the BMP-1P, with a added AT-5 (instead of the
obsolete AT-3 Sagger). This particular Finnish BMP-1PS also has a Lyran mortar.

tenda
10-29-2004, 12:30 PM
..,.bmp's are even better than m113's...!!!!!!! ;)

bison3255
10-29-2004, 12:32 PM
..,.bmp's are even better than m113's...!!!!!!! ;)that doesnt say much :P

aartamen
10-29-2004, 12:33 PM
BMP-1 was not a bad vehicle and pretty advanced for its times. It just was not particularly liked by those who had to ride in it, hence the nickname.

I sat in a Shilka driver seat once. I almost needed a crowbar to get me out of there. Very tight.

sergey31
10-29-2004, 02:05 PM
BMP-1 was not a bad vehicle and pretty advanced for its times. It just was not particularly liked by those who had to ride in it, hence the nickname.

I sat in a Shilka driver seat once. I almost needed a crowbar to get me out of there. Very tight.

Did they finally end up pouring lubricant jelly down the hatch and used a toilet plunger?
rofl rofl rofl

ShapedCharge
10-29-2004, 02:38 PM
http://rusarmy.com/wallpapers/bron2/bmp_bmp-3/bmp_bmp-3_800%20001.jpg

This one is with Arena reactive armor system. It will kill tanks, infantry and Bradleys laughing off most ATGM fire. One of the main advantages is that it does not need an external mounted rocket system, it can just as well use its main gun and machinecannon.
Take a good look at the front left and right corners of this vehicle - yep, machineguns! Very nicely hidden.
Will look beautifully if added that grill-like spaced aremor and some ERA...

aartamen
10-29-2004, 03:11 PM
Did they finally end up pouring lubricant jelly down the hatch and used a toilet plunger?
rofl rofl rofl

I managed to get out on my own. The driver needs to be 5' tall and have short legs for his stature.

aartamen
10-29-2004, 03:13 PM
It will kill tanks, infantry

As soon as they figure out how to make it work.

ShapedCharge
10-29-2004, 03:18 PM
Ha ha ha... ha.... :|

Russian Texan
10-30-2004, 01:38 AM
Ha ha ha... ha.... :|

You have to keep in mind that the reason aartmen hates and badmouthes everything Russian/Soviet so much is because he is a Russian who have immigrated to the US and now is trying to shed any memories of that place, memories like being obused, picked on and laughed at by his classmates for his personal/social and physical skills.

If I remember correctly he had even made it to the Russian military where the obuse and picking on continued. Basically he couldn't get any respect from anyone in Russia, well, it is just the way the place is - no one likes weak, miserable and hateful pricks...

So here he is - trying to start a new life, hoping to fit in, trying to be "one of the gang"...
Dear aartmen, you can leave you country but you can not leave you rotten with psychological complexes personality...

Did they really obuse you that bad?
Let it go, cheer up, relax and you might even get laid.... ;)

sergey31
10-30-2004, 02:39 AM
Did they finally end up pouring lubricant jelly down the hatch and used a toilet plunger?
rofl rofl rofl

I managed to get out on my own. The driver needs to be 5' tall and have short legs for his stature.

That is perfect for me... I'm 5.6" and have shorter legs compared to the rest of the torso.... Man, Russians do make eveything fit like a glove.

BTW. For my hight I'm WAY faster then most runners 6 feet tall.
100 yd in 9.4 sec..........1 mile 4 min 15 sec..... and I'm 180lb woot

perdurabo
10-30-2004, 05:15 AM
http://www.aeronautics.ru/archive/armored_vehicles/apc/bmp3_15.jpg

Is this not a little awkward to get out of the IFV?
infantry sits around turret 2 as gunners MG in front of rest in behind turret faces toward front angine is on its back betwin those two "corridors" so prabably it is litle bit hard to get out for them as in others IFV usually have engine in front infantry back close to doors...But other IFV are much weeker(in weponary in protection prabably Israeli Anchzarit is better... but it is heavy IVF) than this baby. (apart of this ukrainian IFV with t-72 turret....but it is also heavy IFV)
As for this 30mm 2A72 cannon i heard that it has too weak barrel to be selfstanding wepon and it needs support of 100mm gun. It has aluminium armour so repairs need special equipment to weld in neutral gas shielding... Good IFV for ritch countries like Saudi Arabia...