'Why I would not kill in war' article

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(bbc article) click here (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/3025495.stm)

[papabear]

Mr. Funk shouldn't be placed lumped in with the other three.

[GearGod]

Why did you title this topic "Huh"-- Anyways I just read the first story-- I'd still rather be an infantryman-- I think that killing is justified if its for a good cause-- If x people have to die for a good cause so be it-- Ever seen SWORDFISH? Travolta says "If you have to kill a little kid to save x amount of people would you do it"

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I couldn't think of a good title, dont read anything into it, I just thought the article was worth reading.

[G3494]

Adam, if you didn't read the whole thing, why bother posting? The point of the article is whether or not killing is justified.

I liked that article, it really shows the whole spectrum of who concientious objectors can be. From heroes, to stupid pieces of ****.

[a. enders]

That dip**** should never have signed on the dotted line in the first place.The others I can at least respect.Both the medic and the paratrooper knew what was going on and did their jobs (well,the troop refused to participate in police actions and all,but you get my point).The German man should be awarded for standing up tothose Nazi thugs.
But Funk...he should be slapped with a fish for being stupid.I don't care if he was depressed or some bull****,EVERYONE knows what the Marine's are about.
Did he sleep through the first third of Full Metal Jacket?Jesus.....

[martinexsquaddie]

that Marine sounds like he was recurited at the end of the month someone had to make up there quota why they kept him in the reserves god only knows.
But thats what Basic is for to weed out the useless and mad ok maybe not the mad.
When I finished Basic spent a week in the odd and sods platoon where they put people before kicking them out there was this one lad who's reason to join the army was to lose weight.

[hood]

i did a little magic on the thread title...

[SFontaine]

That Funk guy is just a moron.

[Scrim]

Everything A.Enders said.
" Oohh mummy, I didn't know I'd ever have to fight if I joined the Marines, I thought we would learn how to tie knots and sing campfire songs, get me a lawyer."
Funk make Scrim angry, me want bash him.

[...]

Marine seeking discharge is gay
****** ORIENTATION OR ANTI-WAR VIEWS COULD SPUR DISMISSAL
By Brandon Bailey
Mercury News

A local Marine reservist who applied for conscientious objector status this week has told military officials that he is gay, which could give them an alternative reason for discharging him from the service.

While the disclosure may violate the military's policy of ``don't ask, don't tell,'' Lance Cpl. Stephen Funk said Wednesday he is not seeking a discharge on those grounds.

Funk, 20, said he mentioned his ****** orientation in his written application for a discharge because he wanted to explain how his exposure to anti-gay bigotry helped shape his views on violence and war.

``I only disclosed it because I wanted to be honest," Funk said. "The application is about saying who you are, and that's part of who I am.''

Under the military's prohibition of homo******ity, however, the disclosure could be grounds for booting Funk if officials focus on his ****** orientation rather than his views on war.

The Pentagon reported 906 discharges for reasons of ****** orientation last year, compared with 28 discharges because of conscientious objection to military service.

Marine Corps officials weren't immediately available for comment.

Funk, who joined the Marine Corps last year, said he hadn't thought through his opposition to war until he began combat training and realized he was opposed to all violence.

Though Funk has discussed his case with reporters, he said he didn't bring up his ******ity because he didn't want to detract attention from his moral views on war. However, he said he doesn't object to being identified as gay and that his case may be discussed in an upcoming issue of a national gay publication.

[Trigger]

But Funk...he should be slapped with a fish for being stupid.
rofl ...but it's not really fair to the fish.

So I guess it's official...
Brandon Funk and Woodland! are gay!!

Have a great weekend y'all...I shall return on Monday in a 'Matrix' induced stupor. woot

[martinexsquaddie]

The guy maybe naive but he should never have got to boot camp I blame the recuiters for wasting everybodys time sending such an unsuitable man to be trained and the trying to persuade him to stay Jesus.
As for the Gay issue the British Armed forces have been forced to allow Gays to remain in the miltary and shock Horror its a non issue.
Although they did traditionally have all gay units eg The Guards the royal navy, and the Royal marines do have a tendancy to done Drag at the slightest excuse and very fetching they look too:). Although the miltary police did have a unit set up to look for lesbians in the british army (hint there the female ones wearing uniforms).

[Chris1]

conscientious objector didn't work, so now he's putting down that he's gay.
He shouldn't of signed on.
He shouldn't of passed out (if he couldn't do his job, why did they let him stay?)
kick him out, no pay no benefits and slap him with some minor charge for wasting everyones time.

(looking for lesbians in the Army? shouldn't have to look far :) )

[Duke]

Martin,
How can you blame the Marine recruiters for Funk? If an enlistee wishes to hide his homo******ity and CO beliefs, then how can a recruiter properly screen that enlistee for induction. Before assigning blame, Martin, study the issues more thoroughly.

[martinexsquaddie]

I just remember when I did basic there were some people who lasted less than a week and I always wondered how they got there.

[a. enders]

So now the little coward is trying to say he's gay?(Didn't read the whole article,should have)If that's the case....Damn!Everyone in San Francisco should be offended!Using homo******ity as an excuse to cop out? :cantbeli:

[Sgt_Rock]

Thomas....everyone feels the same as you....it's what you do RIGHT NOW that makes a difference.....Hoo Aah? ---Blackhawk Down.

[James]

I think there should be a little pool of money raised by this site to pay people $1.00 every time they DON'T use a quote from a movie to make a point. Get some experience, please. Come up with something original.

[Sabre]

The first three were all people worth respecting.

Going into battle without a firearm with the sole intention to treat the injured is highly commendable, with or without getting the CMOH.

I can't imagine how crazy the situation must have been for the German bloke. Called up at 16 by a facist regieme in its death throws, and saying no. That would take more guts than going into combat. At least he could do a runner on the western front.

That Israeli is the type of guy Israel needs more of. The kind that will defend his people, but won't stand for mistreating others. I bet he has got more integrity in his little finger than Ariel Sharron has all together.

But Funk, I have nothing against his ******ity. I hate having to say that too, it's an entire non-issue with me. Funk, why?!

Why do people have to say 'it's part of who I am'? I am hetero******, I also have two eyes, a nose and no pets. That's part of who I am, but you don't need to hear it. All a recruiter wants to know is whether the guy knows what he wants, is in a good state of mind and is likely to fullfill the physical and legal requirements.

If you're a consciencous objector, surely you object to serving in the armed forces? Once you sign on that dotted line, it's official. It's a contract and you've committed your arse to the USMC.

Still, why did the recruiter take him? If he was depressed he wasn't suitable and didn't know what he was letting himself in for.

[Trigger]

Still, why did the recruiter take him?
I'd be willing to bet that during the recruitment stage Mr. Punk wasn't depressed or gay. He thought he would look cool in uniform, and impress his friends. When war was imminent, his true cowardly nature emerged.

[to free the oppressed]

Kirst was right to stand up against the nazis lucky they did't shot him,the israeli paratrooper so they accendently shot the wrong man it will happan,if i was mr.funk higher CO i heard he doesn't what to fight i would send him to the front lines and see who would die first the iraqi suicide bomber or mr.funk. :backhand:

[Fargin]

...if i was mr.funk higher CO i heard he doesn't what to fight i would send him to the front lines and see who would die first the iraqi suicide bomber or mr.funk. :backhand:

Sir,
Would you explain the meaning of your username in context to your quote?