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J-10
04-16-2006, 06:03 AM
http://news.scotsman.com/international.cfm?id=577092006
Blair refuses to back Iran strike
Sun 16 Apr 2006
BRIAN BRADY WESTMINSTER EDITOR

TONY Blair has told George Bush that Britain cannot offer military support to any strike on Iran, regardless of whether the move wins the backing of the international community, government sources claimed yesterday.

Amid increasing tension over Tehran's attempts to develop a military nuclear capacity, the Prime Minister has laid bare the limits of his support for President Bush, who is believed to be considering an assault on Iran, Foreign Office sources revealed.

US Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice is calling on the United Nations to consider new sanctions against Tehran when the Security Council meets next week to discuss the developing crisis. Blair is expected to support the call for a "Chapter 7" resolution, which could effectively isolate Iran from the international community.

But, in the midst of international opposition to a pre-emptive strike on Tehran, and Britain's military commitments around the world, the government maintains it cannot contribute to a military assault. "We will support the diplomatic moves, at best," a Foreign Office source told Scotland on Sunday. "But we cannot commit our own resources to a military strike."

Meanwhile, a new report on the Iran crisis has warned that neo-conservatives in the Bush administration are on "collision course" with Tehran.

The Foreign Policy Centre (FPC), often referred to as Blair's "favourite think-tank", will appeal for a greater effort to find a diplomatic solution in a report to be published later this week. FPC director Stephen Twigg, formerly a Labour minister, explained: "It is essential UK policy on Iran is well informed... We want to engage with the various reformist elements in Iran, both inside and outside the structures of power.

"There is potential for political dialogue, economic ties and cultural contacts to act as catalysts for the strengthening of civil society in Iran."

While the sense of crisis over Iran has been escalated by the fiery rhetoric between Tehran and the West - particularly Washington - many within the British government are now convinced that the impasse can be resolved by repeating the same sort of painstaking diplomatic activity that returned Libya to the international fold.

The approach contrasts sharply with the strategy employed during the run-up to the war in Iraq, when ministers repeatedly issued grim warnings to Saddam Hussein over the consequences of not falling in line with their demands.

"The only long-term solution to Iran's problems is democracy," said Alex Bigham, co-author of the FPC report. "But it cannot be dictated, Iraq-style, or it will backfire. Iran may seem superficially like Iraq but we need to treat Iran more like Libya. Diplomatic engagement must be allowed to run its course. There need to be bigger carrots as well as bigger sticks."

However, the conciliatory language was not reflected in the approach from Washington, where senior figures in the Bush administration remain keen to stress the danger of Tehran's intentions.

In a declaration aimed at America's allies as much as Iran, Rice claimed the Security Council's handling of the Iranian nuclear issue would be a test of the international community's credibility. "If the UN Security Council says: 'You must do these things and we'll assess in 30 days,' and Iran has not only not done those things, but has taken steps that are exactly the opposite of those that are demanded, then the Security Council is going to have to act."

Rice dismissed Iran's declaration that it is only interested in enriching uranium for use in civil nuclear power facilities, saying the international community must remain focused on the potential military applications of this technology.

"The world community does not want them to have that nuclear know-how and that's why nobody wants them to be able to enrich and reprocess on their territory, getting to the place that they can produce what we call a full-scale nuclear plant to be able to do this," she said.

Rice reiterated that President Bush has not taken any option off the table, including a military response, if Iran fails to comply with the demands of the international community.

oldsoak
04-16-2006, 06:10 AM
Not suprised - we just dont have the money or the resources. Plus we got two jobs on the go already.

joshfox0
04-16-2006, 07:22 AM
Not suprised - we just dont have the money or the resources. Plus we got two jobs on the go already.

Absolutely while i'd love to be able to back a strike on iran we don't have the money to do so. did you know britan as a nation spends more than its defense and transport budgets combined on gambling? kinda puts it in perspective for ya there. :-(

Insane Tadpole
04-16-2006, 07:40 AM
OH dam :-(.... C'mon britian.... You use to be hard... lol arh well

joshfox0
04-16-2006, 08:56 AM
OH dam :-(.... C'mon britian.... You use to be hard... lol arh well
:bash: you'd better be joking about mate :|

XShipRider
04-16-2006, 09:34 AM
Not suprised - we just dont have the money or the resources. Plus we got two jobs on the go already.
PM Tony Blair has to do what is best for Britons and the Commonwealth.
No one can blame him or Britian for limiting involvement in potential future
conflicts.

I'm pretty sure the US is grateful for the staunch direct involvement and
backing thus far.

Gordon
04-16-2006, 02:07 PM
It seems that for alot people you only have to refuse to give the support once and the ramifications chase you around for a while, check out Germany, France and the whole Freedom Frie issue. Hopefully this won't be the case in this situation.

Neoboy
04-16-2006, 02:19 PM
It seems that for alot people you only have to refuse to give the support once and the ramifications chase you around for a while, check out Germany, France and the whole Freedom Frie issue. Hopefully this won't be the case in this situation.
Yeah but anyone with a brain should realise this isn't the case here, we're just stretched with Iraq, Afghanistan and a number of other deployments all over the world. UK hardly has a huge army nowadays.

Insane Tadpole
04-17-2006, 04:12 AM
:bash: you'd better be joking about mate :|
I an't joking

joshfox0
04-17-2006, 05:38 AM
:| ok consider this then what do you expect us to do to help with Iran when all deployable elements of our forces are tied up in places already and our defense budget is so abismally low? We can't give you financial aid, we have no forces to spare, we can't re-instate a draft (it would be political suicide) and while a fiar number would support a strike on Iran you can be sure a slight majority at the moment would oppose it. hopefully we can change that though.

signatory
04-17-2006, 07:13 AM
OH dam :-(.... C'mon britian.... You use to be hard... lol arh well

Britain != Tony Blair.


I respect the British sovereignty alot. Especially good to know they do not change foreign policy every 4-year or so.

Dronetek
04-17-2006, 07:59 AM
Bush dosnt back an Iraq strike either. I dont understand all this chatter when Bush himself said there were no plans for an attack.

jaybird13
04-17-2006, 09:47 AM
If he did back it, i am sure violence would escalate in Brittain.

c62
04-17-2006, 10:18 AM
The article doesn't make clear if Britian would support us politically if(when) we whack Iran. So a quick questions to the Brits on the Board. If(when) the US goes after Iran, and you guys don't have the resources to help us out, would you still back us politally? For example "We'd go if we could, but we don't have the resources, and the US is right for hitting Iran" kind of thing?

martinexsquaddie
04-17-2006, 12:02 PM
bugger looks like I'll have to sort out my retirment plans.
was looking forward to be called up for operation bloodbath :(

Hydro
04-17-2006, 12:06 PM
bugger looks like I'll have to sort out my retirment plans.
was looking forward to be called up for operation bloodbath :(



Mmm, l was looking forward to my whistle stop tour of Iran and her lovely ladies courtesy of HMG. Looks like that weeks boozing in Costa Del Sol will have to be the holiday of choice now. Curses.

joshfox0
04-17-2006, 01:46 PM
The article doesn't make clear if Britian would support us politically if(when) we whack Iran. So a quick questions to the Brits on the Board. If(when) the US goes after Iran, and you guys don't have the resources to help us out, would you still back us politally? For example "We'd go if we could, but we don't have the resources, and the US is right for hitting Iran" kind of thing?
:) well i'd be supportive but i don't think those of us on a military photos board are a good census of the overall population ;).
As someone whos just trying to get into the forces (all be it not really a front line job) this is quite an issue for me however i'd be willing to do my bit if it came to it. :)