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MARINO
03-12-2004, 09:12 AM
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Spanish railway workers cut off steel to remove debris off a destroyed train at Madrid's Atocha railway station, Friday, March 12, 2004. Powerful explosions rocked several Madrid stations on Thursday, March 11, 2004, killing at least 198 rush-hour commuters and wounding more than 1, 240 in Spain's worst terrorist attack ever. (AP Photo/Anja Niedringhaus)



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A youth holds up his white-painted hands in a symbolic gesturefor peace after holding several minutes of silence in Madrid's Puerta del Sol Friday, March 12, 2004, a day after an estimated 198 people were killed Thursday March 11, 2004 from bombs placed in rush hour trains in the Spanish capital. (AP Photo/Mariana Eliano)

A Spanish railway worker cleans up debris from of a destroyed train at Madrid's Atocha railway station Friday, March 12, 2004. Powerful explosions rocked three Madrid stations, Thursday, March 11, 2004, killing more than 190 rush-hour commuters and wounding more than 1,400 in Spain's worst terrorist attack ever. (AP Photo/Anja Niedringhaus)

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Flowers and candles are left at the Santa Eugenia train station in Madrid. Spanish Prime Minister Jose Maria Aznar revealed that citizens from 10 countries other than Spain were among the nearly 200 people killed in the bomb attacks in Madrid.(AFP/Helios De La Rubia)
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Monica Chamorro places candles outside the El Pozo train station in Madrid, Spain, Friday, March 12, 2004, one day after a number of bombs exploded an intercity trains killing 192 and injuring hundreds. (AP Photo/Alvaro Hernandez)


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Spanish police stand in front of the debris of a destroyed train at Madrid's Atocha railway station, Friday, March 12, 2004. Powerful explosions rocked three Madrid train stations on Thursday, March 11, 2004, killing more than 190 rush-hour commuters and wounding more than 1,400 in Spain's worst terrorist attack ever. (AP Photo/Anja Niedringhaus)
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Spanish railway workers clean up debris out of a destroyed train at Madrid's Atocha railway station, Friday, March 12, 2004. Powerful explosions rocked three Madrid stations on Thursday, March 11, 2004, killing more than 190 rush-hour commuters and wounding more than 1,400 in Spain's worst terrorist attack ever. (AP Photo/Anja Niedringhaus) [/quote
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[quote]A Spanish couple look at a wall poster which reads (partially seen), 'Bastards! Enough!' near Madrid's Santa Eugenia train station, March 12, 2004. Practically all of Spain came to a halt at midday to mourn the 198 dead and 1,463 wounded from Thursday's bombings of four packed commuter trains in Madrid. (Andrea Comas/*******)

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An employee of the Council of Europe wears a Spanish flag pin on the lapel of his jacket during a moment of silence in tribute to the victims of yesterday's bombings in Madrid, March 12, 2003 in Front of the Council of Europe in Strasbourg. Spain mourned for at least 198 people killed in Europe's worst attack in 15 years as investigators tried on Friday to pin down if Basque separatists or Muslim militants were behind the bombs on commuter trains. Photo by Vincent Kessler/*******
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Spanish police guard the wreckage of a train as behind a banner reading, 'The dead will not stop our voice,' near to Atocha train station in Madrid, March 12, 2004. Spain mourned for at least 198 people killed in Europe's worst attack in 15 years as investigators tried on Friday to pin down if Basque separatists or Muslim militants were behind the bombs on commuter trains. *******/Kai Pfaffenbach
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A Spanish flag with a black ribbon flutters out of a window opposite the railway track with the destroyed train near Atocha train station in Madrid, March 12, 2004. Spain mourned for at least 198 people killed in Europe's worst attack in 15 years as investigators tried on Friday to pin down if Basque separatists or Muslim militants were behind the bombs on commuter trains. *******/Kai Pfaffenbach
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Forensics experts search the wreckage of a train near to Atocha train station in Madrid, March 12, 2004. Spain mourned for at least 198 people killed in Europe's worst attack in 15 years as investigators tried on Friday to pin down if Basque separatists or Muslim militants were behind the bombs on commuter trains. *******/Kai Pfaffenbach

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Citizens in Barcelona, Spain, place candles on the pavement in a vigil to mourn the victims of the Madrid bombings, March 11, 2004. (Albert Gea/*******) http://us.news1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/rids/20040312/i/r3024502819.jpg

A video grab from exclusive television footage provided by Spain's Tele5/Atlas shows a Spanish plainclothes policeman walking behind a suspicious van in Alcala de Henares, Spain, March 11, 2004. Spanish investigators said on Thursday they found a van containing seven detonators and a tape in Arabic, the first suggestion of any possible militant Islamist link to the Madrid bombings that killed 192 people. (SPAIN OUT, NO ARCHIVES, NO SALES) (MANDATORY CREDIT) *******/Tele5/Atlas


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A Mexican police officer keeps guard in front of the Spain Embassy Thursday, March 11, 2004 in Mexico City. People gathered outside of the Spanish embassy to give a condolences to the families of the victims of the Madrid commuter rail explosions.(AP Photo/Jose Luis Magana)

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Spain's National Police officer Jose Luis Vaneza take the flowers from the gates of the Spainsh embassy Thursday March 11, 2004, in Mexico City. People gathered outside of the Spanish embassy to give condolences to family members of the victims of the Madrid commuter train explosions. (AP Photo/Jose Luis Magana)

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Victims sit on the tracks just outside Madrid's Atocha station as they are tended by rescue workers following one of a series of deadly explosions March 11, 2004. Spain's interior minister said a suspect van had been found on Thursday near Madrid, scene of bombings that killed 190 people, containing seven detonators and a tape in Arabic language. Interior Minister Angel Acebes said the tape had recordings of verses from the Koran. (Pablo Torres Guerrero-El Pais/*******)
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Spanish people raise their arms as a sign of protest during a demonstration against the attack on intercity trains and train stations in Madrid, Spain, Thursday, March 11, 2004. Explosions rocked three Madrid train stations just three days before Spain's general elections, killing more than 190 rush-hour commuters and wounding more than 1200 in Spain's worst terrorist attack ever. (AP Photo/Peter Dejong
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Soccer players of Valencia, Spain and Genclerbirligi, Turkey carry a banner that reads' We share the sorrow of Spain' before a moment of silence in memory of those killed in a number of explosions in Madrid Thursday, at the start of their UEFA Cup fourth round match in Ankara, Turkey on Thursday March 11, 2004. (AP Photo/Burhan Ozbilici)
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Two employees of the Madrid's autonomous regional government building put a Spanish national flag on the balcony adorned with a black ribbon symbolize mourning for the victims of the Basque separatist group ETA attack on intercity trains and three train stations in Madrid, Thursday March 11, 2004. Powerful explosions rocked three Madrid train stations just three days before Spain's general elections, killing more than 190 rush-hour commuters and wounding more than 1240 in Spain's worst terrorist
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Rescue workers collect the bodies of victims of an explosion at the Atocha train station, after explosions rocked three train stations in Madrid Thursday, March 11, 2004, just three days before Spain's general elections. The blasts killed more than 173 rush-hour commuters and wounded more than 500 in Spain's worst terrorist attack ever. (AP Photo/Peter Dejong)
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A Spanish firefighter stands in a moment of silence beside a pram next to a bombed train outside Madrid's Atocha station, March 11, 2004. President George W. Bush (news - web sites) condemned deadly bombings in Spain as a 'vicious act of terrorism.' Bush called Spain's prime minister, Jose Maria Aznar, to 'express his solidarity with the people of Spain at this difficult moment,' said White House National Security Council spokesman Sean McCormack. (Kai Pfaffenbach/*******)
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The French national flag flies at half-staff over the entrance to the Elysee Palace in Paris Friday, March 12, 2004. Flags at public places throughout France will be flown at half mast for three days in respect for the victims of a series of bomb attacks that killed at least 190 people in Madrid, Spain, on Thursday. (AP Photo/Laurent Rebours)

Thanks France
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A protester holds up his hands with 'ETA No' written on them during a demonstration in Almeria, Spain, Thursday March 11, 2004 to protest the attacks on trains in Madrid that killed at least 190 people and injured another 1,200. (AP Photo/EFE, Jose Manuel Vidal)
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MARINO
03-12-2004, 09:35 AM
With a Military interest.
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Spanish soldiers walk back to their base in Diwaniya, 100 miles (160 kms) south of Baghdad, Iraq (news - web sites) Thursday March 11, 2004. A number of bombs tore through trains and stations commuter lines in Madrid during the height of morning rush hour Thursday in Spain's worst terrorist attack ever. (AP Photo/Hussein Malla
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Spanish soldiers chat with relatives back in Madrid from their camp in Diwaniya, 160 kilometers, 100 miles south of Baghdad, Iraq (news - web sites) Thursday March 11, 2004. Ten terrorist bombs tore through trains and stations along a commuter line in Madrid during the height of morning rush hour Thursday, killing at least 173 people and wounding more than 600 in Spain's worst terrorist attack ever, which the government blamed on the armed Basque separatist group ETA. (AP Photo/Hussein Malla)
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A young boy shakes hands with a Spanish soldier near their base in the central Iraq (news - web sites) town of Diwaniyeh, about 200 km south of the capital Baghdad March 12, 2004. *******/Akram Saleh


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A Spanish soldier, right, guards the highway as a newly-trained Iraqi army soldier jumps off a Spanish military truck to conduct mobile checkpoint around Diwaniya, 160 kilometers south of Baghdad, Iraq (news - web sites) Thursday March 11, 2004. A number of terrorist bombs tore through trains and stations along a commuter line in Madrid during the height of morning rush hour Thursday, killing at least 173 people and wounding more than 600 in Spain's worst terrorist attack ever. (AP Photo/Hussein Malla)
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Spanish soldiers in Iraq (news - web sites) check motorists as they conduct mobile checkpoints at Diwaniya, 160 kilometers south of Baghdad, Iraq Thursday March 11, 2004. A number of terrorist bombs tore through trains and stations along a commuter line in Madrid during the height of morning rush hour Thursday, killing at least 173 people and wounding more than 600 in Spain's worst terrorist attack ever. (AP Photo / Hussein Malla)
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Spanish soldiers in Iraq (news - web sites) prepare to frisk motorists as they conduct mobile checkpoints at Diwaniya, 100 miles (160 kms) south of Baghdad, Iraq Thursday March 11, 2004. Ten terrorist bombs tore through trains and stations along a commuter line in Madrid during the height of morning rush hour Thursday, killing more than 170 people and wounding more than 600 in Spain's worst terrorist attack ever. (AP Photo/Hussein Malla)
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Spanish soldiers watch as newly-trained Iraqi Army frisk motorists at a mobile checkpoint in Diwaniya, 160 kilometers south of Baghdad, Iraq (news - web sites) Thursday March 11, 2004. A number of terrorist bombs tore through trains and stations along a commuter line in Madrid during the height of morning rush hour Thursday, killing at least 173 people and wounding more than 600 in Spain's worst terrorist attack ever . (AP Photo/Hussein Malla)

George W. Bush
03-12-2004, 09:39 AM
Can someone post an outline of what actually happened yesterday in Madrid? How much high explosives were used, where they were placed, etc.

George W. Bush
03-12-2004, 09:59 AM
Whoever did this had BIG BALLS to distribute 10 explosive devices across a train. Probably because the Spanish aren't as aware as Americans are.

Kriz
03-12-2004, 10:08 AM
Whoever did this had BIG BALLS to distribute 10 explosive devices across a train. Probably because the Spanish aren't as aware as Americans are.

This could happen anywhere in Europe, most public places barely have good/effective security.

DeltaWhisky58
03-12-2004, 10:37 AM
Whoever did this had BIG BALLS to distribute 10 explosive devices across a train. Probably because the Spanish aren't as aware as Americans are.

This could happen anywhere in Europe, most public places barely have good/effective security.

Just think about what you've said here. Many European countries - especially Spain - have experienced at least 30 years of terrorist atrocities. Spain is one of the more security conscious countries.

We don't know who these terrorists are yet, but they are not mere amateurs. To describe them as having "Big Balls" is a sad way to talk - this was a cowardly act of wanton killing.

Since when was Kriz an expert on European security - based on what, a holiday, what you see on CNN - have some compassion for the Spanish people, PLEASE!

I think it is time that members George W. Bush & Kriz take a long hard look at these pictures - this is spain's 9/11 - Think before you open your mouths and insert your feet again.

Disgusted European!
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stimpy
03-12-2004, 11:38 AM
Well put DeltaWhisky58...........

FallenAngel
03-12-2004, 01:50 PM
Whoever did this had BIG BALLS to distribute 10 explosive devices across a train. Probably because the Spanish aren't as aware as Americans are.

Actually....they have no balls. And it wasn't ten...it was thirteen. Police found and detonated the last three before they went off.

And only a few were on the trains....most were in the strait stations.

And this could happen in the US too. Imagine this happening in a NY subway, or Grand Central station. The explosives (some form of compressed TNT I heard) were in simple, plain backpacks. What are you going to do....strip search every school child and adult wearing a backpack? :roll:

Chris1
03-12-2004, 01:52 PM
...only if their arabs.
Cynical... me?
Naaaaaah

usa320
03-12-2004, 01:57 PM
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That brings back chilling memories.

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The spanish troops in Iraq probably now have a whole new take on their mission.

God bless those that were lost, and may those that are respnosible face a harsh response.


I think weve recently made strides in improving the security in the NYC subway, and london has made progress in providing more security at the tube, but this is a wake up call that mass transit is not the hardest target to hit and inflict many casusalties.

MARINO
03-12-2004, 04:18 PM
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Giovanni Giagnoni, left, and Mauro Mattii place a black ribbon on the Spanish flag as they stand in front of the Leaning Tower, in Pisa, Italy, Friday, March 12, 2004. Powerful explosions rocked three Madrid train stations Thursday, March 11, 2004, killing more than 190 rush-hour commuters and wounding more than 1,240 in Spain's worst terrorist attack ever. (AP Photo/Fabo Muzzi)

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U.S. President George Bush, center, bows his head during the playing of 'Taps' after laying a wreath for the victims of yesterday's railway bombings in Madrid, Spain at the Spanish ambassador's residence Friday, March 12, 2004 in Washington. (AP Photo/Charles Dharapak)
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U.S. President George Bush pauses before signing the condolence book for the victims of yesterday's railway bombings in Madrid, Spain at the Spanish ambassador's residence Friday, March 12, 2004 in Washington. (AP Photo/Charles Dharapak)


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An Italian policeman stands near a Spanish flag with a black ribbon in front of the Spanish Embassy in Rome March 12, 2004. Spain's allies, especially those that -- like Madrid -- backed the U.S.-led war in Iraq (news - web sites), stepped up security in case the bombers who killed nearly 200 people on Spanish trains should strike again elsewhere. Although Spanish authorities said it was still most likely that Basque separatist group ETA was behind the March 11 blasts, the possibility al Qaeda or another Islamic group was to blame led countries that felt vulnerable to take precautions. (Tony Gentile/*******)

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Hundreds of people gather in the courtyard of the residence of the Spanish ambassador to Portugal, in Lisbon, Friday, March 12 2004, applaud following one minute of silence for the victims of Thursday's railway bombings in Madrid, Spain. (AP Photo/Armando Franca)

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Spaniards take to the streets and demonstrate in Madrid's Puerta del Sol, March 12, 2004, to protest against the series of explosions on March 11. The White House offered assistance to Spain in its train bombings investigation and said it took a threat by a group that aligns itself with al Qaeda 'very seriously.' (Manuel Lopez Figueroa/*******
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A Spanish police officer lights a candle outside the Spanish Embassy in central London following yesterday's bombings in Madrid which killed more than 190 people, March 12, 2004. Security agencies around the world mainly share Spain's view that Basque separatists were behind the Madrid bombings on March 11, although they cannot entirely rule out an Islamic link. *******/Toby Melville

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People demonstrate against rail bombings which left 199 dead the day before, at Colon square in Madrid(AFP/Pierre-Philippe Marcou)






THANKS

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von_Moo142
03-12-2004, 04:28 PM
This could happen anywhere in Europe, most public places barely have good/effective security.

This type of attack could happen in any free democratic country, provided there are people who have the will to carry out the attacks.

Even with the best security, if enough attempts are made one is bound to be sucsessful at some point.

Tygryssek
03-12-2004, 04:45 PM
Solidarity from Poland to Spain.
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We all are from Madrid now.

Flagg
03-12-2004, 04:48 PM
I think it's safe to say this is NOT a good day for photos :(

Uncle Chô
03-12-2004, 05:10 PM
I think it's safe to say this is NOT a good day for photos :(
How many people died from violent actions in Haïti today ? In Palestine ? In Iraq ? In Israel ? In Sri Lanka ? In Tibet ? In Ivory Coast ? In Chechnya ? And so on...

EVERY day is NOT a good day for photos.

This time your (my) perception is different because you know the country, you've been in Madrid, you might speak the language, people get dressed and behave like you, the buildings, cars and trains are similar to yours at home.

It is something normal and you (I) can hardly go against.

But remember the violence and the pain is the same anywhere in the world.

mack pl
03-12-2004, 05:19 PM
[quote="Tygryssek"]Solidarity from Poland to Spain.
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We all are from Madrid now.BTW 4 Poles was killed in this attack :(

MARINO
03-12-2004, 05:50 PM
Again thanks
RIP

He219
03-12-2004, 07:07 PM
My condolences to our Spanish friends....
:(

MARINO, I hope you were able to make contact with your lady and that she is well ....


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PARIS, FRANCE: French flag is at half-mast to pay respect to the victims of Yesterday's Madrid bloody attacks as Republican guards parade to welcome Slovenian president Janez Drnovsek at the Elysee Palace, 12 March 2004 in Paris. AFP PHOTO MEHDI FEDOUACH (Photo credit should read MEHDI FEDOUACH/AFP/***** Images)



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Japanese and U.S. service members hold their national colors during the 59th commemoration ceremony of the Battle of Iwo Jima, held on the island on Friday. Fifty-five American survivors returned for a small memorial and reunion with three former Japanese military members who also lived through the fight, one of the bloodiest of World War II.

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U.S. civilian administrator in Iraq L. Paul Bremer, second from left, is escorted upon his arrival at the 82nd Airborne Division’s headquarters in Ramadi, Iraq, on Thursday. The division soon will be replaced by the Marine Corps.

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Afghan soldiers belonging to a factional militia brigade ride on the top of a Russian-made armored vehicle during a ceremony held in a cantonment outside Kabul, Afghanistan, Thursday, March 11, 2004. Most of the tanks and armored vehicles of militias moved from the capital to the compound and handed over to the government army Thursday as part of the disarmament of the country's unruly militias. (AP Photo/Amir Shah)

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Afghan soldiers belonging to a factional militia brigade stand around their tanks during a ceremony held in a cantonment outside Kabul, Afghanistan, Thursday, March 11, 2004. Most of the tanks and armored vehicles of militias moved from the capital to the compound and handed over to the government army Thursday as part of the disarmament of the country's unruly militias. (AP Photo/Amir Shah)

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Turkish engineers Mustafa, right, and Abdullah ride a car of Turkish embassy after their release Friday, March 12, 2004 in Kabul, Afghanistan (news - web sites). Afghan forces freed the three men in a shootout with their captors earlier in the day, the interior minister said. (AP Photo/Amir Shah)

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Soldiers from 2nd Battalion, Royal Canadian Regiment, head to a C-130 aircraft at the airport in Fredericton, Canada heading to Haiti on Friday, March 12, 2004. The group is an advance defense and security team preceeding a larger Canadian force expected to depart for the troubled country next week. (AP Photo/Andrew Vaughan)

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A group of Canadian soldiers are headed to Haiti to join an international force being formed to help the Caribbean nation(AFP/File/Shah Marai)

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Vancouver City Police Detective Constable Shelia Sullivan (L) and Royal Canadian Mounted Police (RCMP) Corporal Catherine Galliford speak at a Vancouver news conference March 10, 2004, where they said that pork products processed and distributed from the farm of accused Canadian serial killer Robert Pickton may have contained human remains. Pickton raised and slaughtered pigs at the Port Coquitlam farm until his arrest on February 2002, and police believe he gave or sold processed meat products to friends and acquaintances. Pickton, 53, is awaiting trial in the killings of at least 22 of more than 60 missing Vancouver women. Photo by Nick Didlick

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Soldiers of the 4th Infantry Division take up position as shots were fired in the direction of their camp in Tikrit, Iraq in this April 19, 2003 file photo. The Army is spread so thin around the globe by war and the threat of war that in planning for another rotation of combat troops into Iraq as early as this fall, it had little choice but to call on the same soldiers who led the charge into Baghdad last April. (AP Photo/Saurabh Das, File)

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A sniper with 1st Battalion, 505th Parachute Infantry Regiment, 82nd Airborne Division, reacts to movement along building rooftops during a cordon and search mission in Al Fallujah, Iraq, March 4, 2004. DoD photo by Staff Sgt. Charles B. Johnson, U.S. Army. (Released)

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Undated photograph of a VH-92 "Superhawk" Sikorsky helicopter in flight. Aiming to block a European-designed helicopter from taking over as the next U.S. presidential transport, Sikorsky Aircraft Corporation on March 10, 2004 unveiled a model sporting a bigger cabin than previous versions, targeting one of its competitor's selling points. Sikorsky, a United Technologies Corp. unit, also took shots at the rival three-engine design offered by AgustaWestland, owned by Britain's GKN and Finmeccanica of Italy, and played up what it called its "All American" solution to reducing any security risks. EDITORIAL USE ONLY *******/Sikorsky Aircraft Corporation/Handout

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TIKRIT, IRAQ: US soldiers from the 1st Infantry Division weapons found in a cache near the banks of an irrigation channel of Tigrus river, near Owja, 15 Km south of Tikrit , 12 March 2004. The 1st Infantry Division, which is usually based in Germany, is now moving into the complex perched on cliffs above the Tigris river while the 4th Infantry Division heads home to Fort Hood in Texas. The two divisions are currently running joint operations, phasing in the fresh troops, including many from National Guard units around the United States. AFP PHOTO/Daniel MIHAILESCU (Photo credit should read DANIEL MIHAILESCU/AFP/***** Images)


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OUJA, IRAQ: US military personnel from 1st Infantry Division, pick-up an RPG (rocket propelled grenade) launcher founded under a hay stack in a pomegranate orchard near Ouja, 15 kms south of Tikrit , 12 March 2004. The 1st Infantry Division, which is usually based in Germany, is now moving into the army complex perched on cliffs above the Tigris river while the 4th Infantry Division heads home to Fort Hood in Texas. The two divisions are currently running joint operations, phasing in the fresh troops, including many from National Guard units around the United States, before command is transferred permanently in mid-March. AFP PHOTO/Daniel MIHAILESCU (Photo credit should read DANIEL MIHAILESCU/AFP/***** Images)

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An American special forces soldier and Estonian troops raid a milk processing plant in Baghdad, Iraq (news - web sites) Sunday, March 7, 2004. Battalion commander Lt. Col. Tim Ryan told The Associated Press that soldiers were searching for specific suspects sought by the U.S.-led coalition, and detained five.(AP Photo/John Moore)

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A police officer stands at the ready as people are searched for weapons and drugs in the Jacarezinho slum, during an operation in Rio de Janeiro, March 12, 2004. More than 800 policemen are participating in 'Operation Pressure' in an attempt to reduce the soaring level of crime in Brazil's most famous city, known nearly as much for its beauty as for its violence. *******/Bruno Domingos

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A policeman aims his weapon over the Jacarezinho slum during an operation to search for weapons and drugs, in Rio de Janeiro, March 12, 2004. More than 800 policemen are participating in 'Operation Pressure' in an attempt to reduce the soaring level of crime in Brazil's most famous city, known nearly as much for its beauty as for its violence. *******/Bruno Domingos

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A Vietnamese soldier waves a flag atop a French PC as others assault the area at the Dien Bien Phu battlefield, 07 May 1954. The fighting began March 13, 1954, and 56 days later, shell-shocked survivors of the French garnison hoisted the white flag to signal the end to one of the greatest battles of the 20th century(AFP)

Marmot1
03-12-2004, 07:16 PM
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MAUSER!!! woot woot woot

He219
03-12-2004, 07:36 PM
Good 'ol 98 ...
;)

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American soldiers patrol past local Afghan militia Tuesday March 2, 2004 in Khost, Afghanistan (news - web sites) in Paktia province about 200 km (120 miles) southeast of Kabul. U.S. Special operations snipers killed nine suspected Taliban rebels in a firefight in near Orgun, about 175 kilometers (105 miles) in the Pakistan border area, but the military would not confirm whether this was the start of a rumoured spring offensive. (AP Photo/Ed Wray)

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Members of South Korean special police force advance along a train car during an anti-terror exercise at the Kwangmyung High-Speed Railroad Station, in the Kwangmyung city outskirts of Seoul, South Korea (news - web sites), Friday, March 5, 2004. (AP Photo/ Lee Jin-man)

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Members of South Korean special police force descend from the rooftop of the Kwangmyung High-Speed Railroad Station building during an anti-terror exercise, in the Kwangmyung city outskirts of Seoul, South Korea (news - web sites), Friday, March 5, 2004. (AP Photo/ Lee Jin-man)

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RIO DE JANEIRO, BRAZIL: CORE police special force member Monica dos Santos shows a package of marijuana and the warhead of a shoulder-fired surface-to-air (SAM) missile found at a house raided during the Maximum Pressure anti-traffickers operation, 12 March, 2004 in Rio de Janeiro, Brazil. Eighteen people were killed in Rio during the last eight days in clashes between the police and drug traffickers. AFP PHOTO ANTONIO SCORZA (Photo credit should read ANTONIO SCORZA/AFP/***** Images)

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RIO DE JANEIRO, BRAZIL: CORE police special force officers take into custody three presumed drug dealers during a patrol along the Jacare shantytown, in the frame of the Maximum Pressure anti-narcotics operation 12 March, 2004 in Rio de Janeiro, Brazil. Eighteen people were killed in Rio during the last eight days in clashes between the police and drug traffickers. AFP PHOTO ANTONIO SCORZA (Photo credit should read ANTONIO SCORZA/AFP/***** Images)

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PORT-AU-PRINCE, HAITI - MARCH 12: A United States Marine scout sniper and his spotter keep watch above a gate at the industrial park March 12, 2004 in Port-au-Prince, Haiti. Marines have been guarding the industrial park in an attempt to stop the heavy looting in the area. (Photo by Scott Olson/***** Images)

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HERAT, AFGHANISTAN: In this picture taken, 05 March 2004, an unidentified US soldier tests satellite communication equipment in the grounds of the US-run Herat Provincial Reconstruction Team (PRT) in western Afghanistan. The Herat PRT is one of 10 operating around Afghanistan in an effort to bolster the rule of President Hamid Karzai, assist with reconstruction and improve security. AFP PHOTO/Madeleine COOREY (Photo credit should read MADELEINE COOREY/AFP/***** Images)

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KABUL, AFGHANISTAN: Canadian soldiers of the International Security Assistance Force (ISAF) and soldiers of the Afghan Ministry of Defence look out from on top of a Russian-made T-62 tank during a ceremony marking the removal of heavy weapons from Kabul, 11 March 2004. The program which was started in January 2004 is seperate from the UN-backed DDR program due to start "in two weeks time thorughout Afghanistan. AFP PHOTO/SHAH Marai (Photo credit should read SHAH MARAI/AFP/***** Images)

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KABUL, AFGHANISTAN: A Canadian soldier of the International Security Assistance Force (ISAF) looks out from on top of a Russian-made T-62 tank during a ceremony marking the removal of heavy weapons from Kabul, 11 March 2004. The program which was started in January 2004 is seperate from the UN-backed DDR program due to start "in two weeks time thorughout Afghanistan. AFP PHOTO/SHAH Marai (Photo credit should read SHAH MARAI/AFP/***** Images)

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KABUL, AFGHANISTAN: Soldiers of the Afghan Ministry of Defence drive a Russian-made T-62 tank (No Way Buddy ;) )during a ceremony marking the removal of heavy weapons in Kabul, 11 March 2004. The program which was started in January 2004 is seperate from the UN-backed DDR program due to start "in two weeks time thorughout Afghanistan. AFP PHOTO/SHAH Marai (Photo credit should read SHAH MARAI/AFP/***** Images)

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KABUL, AFGHANISTAN: A German soldier (2-R) of the International Security Assistance Force (ISAF) sits on a Russian-made T-62 tank with soldiers of the Afghan Ministry of Defence during a ceremony marking the removal of heavy weapons in Kabul, 11 March 2004. The program which was started in January 2004 is seperate from the UN-backed DDR program due to start "in two weeks time thorughout Afghanistan. AFP PHOTO/SHAH Marai (Photo credit should read SHAH MARAI/AFP/***** Images)

elguapo
03-12-2004, 08:39 PM
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I tried to make out the writings on it but it's LQ image. I remember hearing in the news a few months ago a wire tap from a Rio drug dealer that was negotiating a stinger missile "from Taliban". Supposedly for the FARC.

Anyone familiar with Stinger warheads?

And it's the first time I see a lady doing that kind of dangerous SF job... They are usualy investigators or sheriffs.

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Sierra
03-12-2004, 09:00 PM
great pics! thanx. may the ppl killed in Madrid RIP :(
and I bet the Spanish are behind the US now because they have felt the tragedy of Al-Quaeda. I wonde how to Spanish troops in the Middle East feel now.

von_Moo142
03-12-2004, 09:08 PM
Anyone familiar with Stinger warheads?

I'm not, but it doesn't look like one to me.

The stinger missiles body diameter is 2.75" (with wings folded). That thing looks a fair bit wider. Plus the warhead on a stinger sits behind the seeker, so it doesn't need to be pointed.

Try this link:

http://www.designation-systems.net/dusrm/m-92.html

elguapo
03-12-2004, 09:32 PM
I'm not, but it doesn't look like one to me.

The stinger missiles body diameter is 2.75" (with wings folded). That thing looks a fair bit wider. Plus the warhead on a stinger sits behind the seeker, so it doesn't need to be pointed.

Try this link:

http://www.designation-systems.net/dusrm/m-92.html

U right, I guess that happens on all manpads.

SA14
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must be some rpg of some sort

03-12-2004, 10:31 PM
The bombings were by Al Queda right?

AFG
03-12-2004, 10:51 PM
RIP in Madrid :(

Vintendo
03-13-2004, 12:25 AM
Whoever did this had BIG BALLS to distribute 10 explosive devices across a train. Probably because the Spanish aren't as aware as Americans are.

Dude, you've obviously never been on the NYC subway system or most trains in a major city. Leaving backpacks under seats in a busy, crowded train is not that hard.

MaxPayne
03-13-2004, 06:43 AM
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is it possible to get this pic in high res? would be cool

anyway thanks for the cool m14 pic :hug:

balderick24
03-13-2004, 12:33 PM
My prayers go out to all those who have lost a loved one or been injured in the Madrid Bombings

I have to Echo the feelings of other members

Europe has been fighting terrosim for over 30 yesrs

and Still events like madrid still happen

No matter what security you put in place these things still happen
All we can do is stay vigilante and Pray that one day we can overcome

Ben

seruriermarshal
03-14-2004, 04:26 AM
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Today , In here , we pray for spain .
Bless Spain ! Bless Spain people !
We Stand With Spain Forever !
Never Forget 3.11 !


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