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moughoun
04-20-2006, 01:58 PM
Australian Defence Magazine has an interview with Major General Mike Hindmarsh, commander Australian special Operations Command, which gives some detail on 4RARs structure and progress.

It now consists of FOUR companies, one of which is given the role of TAG(East).

In addition to a logistics support company within 4RAR there is now also a seperate Special Operations Combat Services Support Company (SOCSSC) which provides support to all the Spec Forces.

330 additional personnel had to be recruited to bring special forces up to its full strength of 2,500 and this has virtually been achieved. This is the reason Direct Entry is being wound back, as 4RAR ( and SASR for that matter) is just about fully manned.

270 people entered the Special Forces Direct Entry Recruitment scheme.
Of those 90 have reached the Special Forces Entry Test and 60 have passed so far.
No direct entry candidate has been accepted into SASR but many have already served in Afghanistan with distinction and SOCOMD is very happy with their standard.

4RAR has now become the major source of recruits for SASR.

General Hindmarsh also reveals that many SASR soldiers who left the Army after Afghanistan and Iraq are now trying to get back into special forces.
If they are well regarded and only out of Army for a short time, they are accepted back, albeit with a drop in rank.
If they are well regarded, but have been out of Army for a longer time, they are required to retake the selection course.


Taken from another forum, I thought the bit about guy's rejoing was interesting.

Ballistic
04-20-2006, 06:41 PM
That number of 2500, I'm guessing includes support staff, admin, and all that would'nt it ?

However, what is the source of these numbers ? And why would these numbers even be released ?

Tally Man
04-20-2006, 06:55 PM
Not sure how I feel about this but shouldn't an SAS operator have prior military experinace?

Ballistic
04-20-2006, 07:13 PM
No SFDRS applicants made it into the SASR. I think the main reason of SFDRS was created was to bring 4RAR up to full strength, not SASR.

RAA_GnrCheck
04-21-2006, 03:55 AM
Not sure how I feel about this but shouldn't an SAS operator have prior military experinace?

Normally those who apply for SF direct entry have to spend a year with a infantry battalion after they march out of recruit trainning, its only then will they move on and do all the special forces trainning and testing.

depending on how good they do they might get into the SAS, if they fall a bit beloe they would probably be thumbed off to 4RAR.

Adz
04-21-2006, 04:30 AM
Im not sure there 2500 people in the australian infantry, lol.

RAA_GnrCheck
04-21-2006, 04:53 AM
Im not sure there 2500 people in the australian infantry, lol.

no thats all the people in SF

heres a tip for everyone: never play enemy party for tag east, it hurts too much

Skeletor
04-21-2006, 06:58 PM
Are the Australian Tactical Assault Group and SASR separate?

BiZ
04-21-2006, 07:58 PM
Are the Australian Tactical Assault Group and SASR separate?

TAG-West is a rotation of one of the SASR Squadrons.
TAG-East is a Company within 4RAR(Cdo)

RAA_GnrCheck
04-21-2006, 09:24 PM
TAG-West is a rotation of one of the SASR Squadrons.
TAG-East is a Company within 4RAR(Cdo)

i thought TAG was a mixture of all the Special people, cause i heard that there were SAS in TAG-East

BiZ
04-21-2006, 09:32 PM
Let us not venture down the path of who/what/where and when. ;)

As always, these details are better left KISS.

Adz
04-22-2006, 08:23 AM
Everyone is special RAA......You just need a little faith :roll: :roll: