U.S. Army basic training apparantly includes firing RPG-7's

[UkrainianAmerican]

This might not be the right section of the board to post this on, but my high school buddy (whos in jrotc and went throught basic) said he was taught how to fire rpg-7 antipersonell grenades as well as a .45.

[George W. Bush]

Anyone have an RPG-7V manual online?

[Flagg]

Cool! I hope it's the case.......everyone in the "teeth arms" should be trained in the operational use and capabilities of likely opposition small arms....god knows the RPG and AK families are pretty ubiquitous

[usa320]

I know all US military personel take a class on US weapons and the majority also take a class on AWVID or aircraft, Weapon, Vehicle identification. This teaches them the major differences between different systems. But i think it would also be very beneficial for them to actually learn how to operate OPFOR equipment. They should be trained on RPG's, SA-7's, AK's, Drugnovs, ect.

[GazB]

My nephew said during the officer training for the NZ army that they fire an RPG-7 during training. Can't remember whether one person gets picked to fire it or everyone fires one... knowing our lack of funding at the time for our army it was probably just one person in the unit.

[Sixgun Symphony]

We only had non-functional M1 Garand rifles for drill in basic training for the USN.

We did get to shoot a 1911 pistol rechambered for .22 rimfire. There were no targets, just shoot the wall.


Yea, it sucked. :(

I think that's only in basic training if you choose a combat specialty...

[Kilgor]

Anyone have an RPG-7V manual online?

http://www.fas.org/man/dod-101/sys/land/row/rpg-7.pdf

[Merik]

Sweet! Ill let you guys know in a couple months if they do or dont lol.

[UkrainianAmerican]

Unfortunately, my buddy never fired an ak (which kind of ironic, considering hes more likely to come accross an ak then an rpg)

[Argyll]

Makes sense!

[Trident-za]

Would it be suprising if recruits are being taught to fire the RPG? I would be more suprised if they WERENT teaching recruits to use this weapon. I'm not sure if it was standard procedure for the entire SA Defence Force, but my unit very definitely trained us to use them back in 1990. Word of advice to future recruits: bring ear plugs for the RPG firing session :) (it's not at all like the movies :lol: )

[IDFM203]

We in the IDF have been training and using the RPG for years now (http://www.isayeret.com/weapons/rockets/rpg/rpg7.htm) (though with Israeli rockets :D )


You should always be trained in what the enemy uses as well.

There are a lot of reasons for that, not in the least of which is that you never know when you might come up on those weapons in battle just lying around (or capturing them by force in combat)…believe me we Israelis know all about it ;) :D
(Hell how do you think it is that in a lot of units they have at least one soldier who carries the RPG…its not like the soviets were selling those things to us ;) ).

Like was said above, I am more surprised (if its true) that it was NOT taught in the U.S. before then the fact that it is just being taught now.

Shalom :D

[Dominique]

This might not be the right section of the board to post this on, but my high school buddy (whos in jrotc and went throught basic) said he was taught how to fire rpg-7 antipersonell grenades as well as a .45.

Say again?? In US Army Basic Combat Training (BCT) the ONLY weapons you fire are the M-16A2 (which is the only weapon you actually qualify on), the M-249 SAW, and M-203 and AT-4 (just to geta feel for the weapons) you also throw two live hand grenades and learn how to use a clamore.

The Army no longer uses the .45 it uses the M-9 (the only people who fire them are MP's and Artillery (FA and ADA), and that's at Advanced Individual Training (AIT) - your MOS school.

Once you arrive at your arive at your unit you may or may not receive more training (MK-19, M-60, M-249, 12-guage shotgun, M-14), but it depends on the unit and what they have you assigned to do.

As far as foregin weapons traing goes, it also depends on your unit and what you unit commander wants. The course is available if he wants you to get the training.

Armored vehcile and and aircraft rec are pretty standard courses for combat arms to take.

Dominique Sumner
SGT (P)
VA ARNG

[UkrainianAmerican]

This might not be the right section of the board to post this on, but my high school buddy (whos in jrotc and went throught basic) said he was taught how to fire rpg-7 antipersonell grenades as well as a .45.

Say again?? In US Army Basic Combat Training (BCT) the ONLY weapons you fire are the M-16A2 (which is the only weapon you actually qualify on), the M-249 SAW, and M-203 and AT-4 (just to geta feel for the weapons) you also throw two live hand grenades and learn how to use a clamore.

The Army no longer uses the .45 it uses the M-9 (the only people who fire them are MP's and Artillery (FA and ADA), and that's at Advanced Individual Training (AIT) - your MOS school.

Once you arrive at your arive at your unit you may or may not receive more training (MK-19, M-60, M-249, 12-guage shotgun, M-14), but it depends on the unit and what they have you assigned to do.

As far as foregin weapons traing goes, it also depends on your unit and what you unit commander wants. The course is available if he wants you to get the training.

Armored vehcile and and aircraft rec are pretty standard courses for combat arms to take.

Dominique Sumner
SGT (P)
VA ARNG
Army is not issued .45s but my friend was given it to practice
(i dont know if he had to qualify) and he fired RPG-7 as well.
Perhaps not every bse letds you fire RPG-7, but his did.

[Dominique]

Let me say this once again, YOU DON"T FIRE RPG's IN BASIC TRAINING. :bash: I don;t care what basic traing base you go to. VERY few people actually get to fire a RPG, they may show you one and let you look it over (but this is done at your unit not basic or AIT), but you will not fire any, I say again, ANY foreign weapons while you are in basic traing.

You also don't get a .45 to practice with. You practice with the weapon you qaulify on. They don't just hand out weapons and let youfire them for fun.

I want you to ask your friend what his MOS is,where he did basic and AIT at, what school his enrolled at ROTC at and what year of ROTC he's in.

Or, better yet, let him sign up here and I'll speak with him dirrectly, I've got a few more questions I'd like to ask him.

[11F5S]

A kid down the block told me that everyone in Navy boot camp is getting to launch one Tomahawk missile. :P

[UkrainianAmerican]

Let me say this once again, YOU DON"T FIRE RPG's IN BASIC TRAINING. :bash: I don;t care what basic traing base you go to. VERY few people actually get to fire a RPG, they may show you one and let you look it over (but this is done at your unit not basic or AIT), but you will not fire any, I say again, ANY foreign weapons while you are in basic traing.

You also don't get a .45 to practice with. You practice with the weapon you qaulify on. They don't just hand out weapons and let youfire them for fun.

I want you to ask your friend what his MOS is,where he did basic and AIT at, what school his enrolled at ROTC at and what year of ROTC he's in.

Or, better yet, let him sign up here and I'll speak with him dirrectly, I've got a few more questions I'd like to ask him.
He is in Jrotc, its his enior year in high school right now.
And thats what he told me.

[Dominique]

I hate to tell you this but, your friend is probably blowing smoke. The only way he could have gone to basic training and still be in high-school is to be in the Army Reserves or Army National Guard andtake what's known as the "split option". He would have gone to basic after the 11th grade and would go to AIT once he graduated. I'd still like to talk with him, his JROTC instructors though. If he is in the reserves or guard, REALLY like to speak to his section or plt SGT.

Trying to BS people about what training he's completed is only going to fill your heads with the wrong info. If he's actually in the Reserves of Guard and continues to do so, I'm sure his Drill Sergeants will be more than happy to give him all the addtional training he deserves. ;)

[gilgoul]

This might not be the right section of the board to post this on, but my high school buddy (whos in jrotc and went throught basic) said he was taught how to fire rpg-7 antipersonell grenades as well as a .45.

This would be a good idea, I had a crash course in RPD, AKM, and RPG2/7 basic manipulation while serving in France, but got to only really fire the Ak, and i fell in love :oops:

[obd]

Well when I was at basic training for Domino´s Pizza they let me make an extra cheese pizza on my first day that actually went out to a customer and on my second day they let me answer the phone and on my third day they told me I wasnt allowed to answer the phone anymore but I could sweep the floors and wash the dishes!!!!

It was so cool man. Im WAY ahead of the other people there. All they get to do is eat free pizza and stuff but I get to wash the dishes!!! And they dont even know Im getting paid $5.25 every single hour!!!!! I bet they are only making $2.50 per hour HAHA. Im sure glad Im going to college otherwise I wouldnt have the opportunity and this just proves that its possible he got to fire that RPG 7v and the colt .45 in basic. If I got to answer the phone ounce then anything is possible guys!!

Stop getting on his case. You werent there and you dont know!!!!

and a great big ¨WINK WINK to all you dense people out there too!!! hehe

[Dominique]

Stop getting on his case. You werent there and you dont know!!!!

and a great big ¨WINK WINK to all you dense people out there too!!! hehe

I'm not getting on his case, and I appologize if my post seems that way. :hug: What I am saying is that his friend is LYING OUT HIS A** if he says that while he was in basic training he fired an RPG-7 and was given a .45 to practice with.

Folks, I'm sorry if I seem like I rant and jumping in his a**. I'm not trying to get into a pissing contest or start a flame war (that's a major problem here). His friend is BSing him, trying to make himself out to be cool. I'm just giving him a heads up. OK.

I don' want you guys runnig down to the the recruiter thinking you are going to get to do all thsi HSLD sh*t when you get to basic. You will spend most of your time leraning basic things like marching, the history of the Army, PT, and how to keep your barracks clean. the rest or your time will be eaten up on NBC, First-Aid and other common tasks (CTT) or BMR (Basic Rifle Marksmanship). You will only get about 1 day of training on the other weapons I mentioned.

So, please, please, please, stop listing to "joe blow" from down the block becuase he does not have F***ing clue as to what he is talking about. :roll:

[WARPIG]

There is no program or policy in the US ARMY that allows, cadets, recruits, or basic trainees to live fire foreign weapons. The most likely thing that this "JROTC buddy" has seen is an AT4 simulator and the M9. US ARMY TRADOC is implementing more combat training into all non combat MOS bootcamps however. It could be very possible that a Drill Sergeant or Cadre took it upon themselves to "familiarize" recruits on different weapons. For instance if one of the Cadre was qualified to train in small arms and pistols.. he could easily have taken a platoon to a pistol range and gave them some hands on. Letting your platoon play with your personal weapon without going to a range could also be a form of "hip pocket" training.

RPG sims are availible through different training support programs. For instance an RPG sim that uses miles might be used during boot camp.. the same way a dummy land mine or other sims are used.

Somebody was exaggerating.

[Mark Sman]

My brother in Third Armored got alot of opposition weapons training.

But it was all unit based. And this was back in the day when 3AD was in Germany. But he said the unit actually had a heap of rounds for the AKs and RPGs and didn't mind using them up.

He said there were guys in his unit that had fired more rounds from the RPG than LAWs rockets. :cantbeli:

I guess his unit commander thought it important. If the unthinkable had ever been thunk in Europe, being able to use basic enemy weapons probably would be a good idea.

[UkrainianAmerican]

Well to be faie I am not 100 percent ceratin that he got to fire that stuff during Basic. Thats what I assumed (Thus making an ass out of u and me) I think hes in the Reserves btw.