40mm Drop Leg Subload

[Yeoman]

Hey all. I'm now a 203 gunner, and I was trying to find ways to effectivley carry 203 rounds.
Problem; CF issued tac vest doensn't have a place to hold them, and I really don't want to use a flimsly belt that the 203's come in.
I've seen some guys in my old unit have custom made leg drop loads, but no one knew where they came from.
So wandering around the internet, I thought "why not just use a large drop leg subload designed for larger pistols?"
So the point of this thread; I was looking at purchasing something along the lines of that, but before I do, I wanted someone to confirm to me wether or not I could get two TT 40mm panels onto some type of large leg load?
Just idiot proofing, don't want to pick something up and find out I can effectivley hold two of those panels on there ya know?
Greg

[TacoDelRio]

TT also makes a 40mm belt as you may have seen.

[kamarian]

Try www.sordaustralia.com

they should have something there

[Uncle Sam]

I wouldn't carry 40mm in a drop leg pouch. But that's just me.

What are you allowed to use?

Can you add pouches to your vest at all?

Have you looked at STRIKE and MOLLE stuff? There's a lot of 40mm pouches you could add to your vest, if your vest is made that way, that's what I would do personally.

[Yeoman]

our vest isn't modular at all. so I have to resort to this. I saw the belt but I wasn't personally impressed with it. just having a belt on would be alot more difficult to pull rounds out as opposed to having them on my leg when you're wearing plates and the vest.
Greg

[Digital Marine]

http://www.optactical.com/hs40drlegpa.html

http://www.optactical.com/molegpa1.html
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http://www.optactical.com/4ro40pa.html


or look around there, for other pouches.

[Yeoman]

ha I knew somewhere something would turn up!
I'll have to remember to check optactical, that seems to be a pretty good site, how could have I never run into that site before?
thanks bro, it's appreciated.
Greg

[Catch22]

Yeoman, pick a dropleg subload, but consider one thing - accesibility to the various munitions (HE, Illum, whatever else you carry). You'll be able to put some 6-8 rounds on the panel (maybe more but it'll become a burden). Think about placing the grenades (and pouches) horizontally (like the Russians do) rather than one above the other vertically. The first option is better for subloads, the second for vests & belts. It'll give you better control and access to various types of ammo. Look for the pouches with "pull out" flap (helps getting the nade out when in gloves etc), fastened with velcro and two press studs for various lenghts of grenades and elastic band around to hold them when the flap is open.

Hope this helps.

[ShakesFIST]

Don't load more than 6 per leg. I had a MOLLE sub load "thingy". I had 6 on it and it wasn't very comfortable. 6 MAX! I had the Tactical Tailor 12 round belt and I didn't really trust it to hold my grenades if I had to move fast and hard.

I had MOLLE 203 pouches that I just put on my vest but I understand that is not an option.You COULD get MOLLE pouches and put them on your pistol belt or pant belt as well...

[One Shot Tactical Supply]

Yeoman

I am supplying quite a number of the CF M203 gunners with the HSGI D/L 40mm pouch.

Let me know if you'd like to try one out.

From the way a few guys are talking it sounds like they might only get 3 to carry. One option is to get two single 40mm pouches and put them on the front in place of the bayonet.

[Royal]

There is a British PLCE issue item that you may find on Ebay - that said it's in DPM.

There are a few outfits in the UK that make the SASS springs to mind...

[dacanadianbomb]

Wouldnt you have to get it in CADPAT then ?
That might be a costly thing then.

[Yeoman]

three?!? no freakin way. three wouldn't last at all.
like I said, some boys I knew had some custom made that could carry it was either six or eight.
I was leaning more towards something with velcro to begin with, it just makes more sense. quicker to access them.
either way I'm sure I'll end up going to one shot if you've got everything I want (which by the looks of it, you do)
Greg

[One Shot Tactical Supply]

The HSGI one I have been selling holds 8. The 3 is what guys are saying they might get issued. I have not yet heard a confirmed number.

These are avalible in the Arid Marpat, very close to our Arid Cadpat.

Just let me know if you want to drop by at all.

[Major Maxillary]

You could use a four-mag pouch and put three rounds in it? that how it's done in this old M72 manual i have.

tried Tactical Tailor?

[Yeoman]

yeah they just got back to me yesterday.
not sure. looks like I *might* be going with a tag sub load, with TT four stack m203.
it all depends on how if I can swing by one shot and give there's a whirl. I just don't know about the clips, seems kind of pointless with 203 shells.
Greg

[Field_Gunner]

greg I thought you were in the bench warming battalion, why would you need more than 3?

[Yeoman]

greg I thought you were in the bench warming battalion, why would you need more than 3?

better safe then sorry. battle load certainly isn't three, and like hell I'll be going into a place that'll be considered hot (I'm IRU right now) with just three rounds.
Greg

[reverence]

Drop leg holsters can be a real pain after more than a few hours. 40mm rounds are bulky and not light. Most guys who get rigs to carry 203 rounds on their legs get rid of them after their first trip out field. A MOLLE vest or belt set up for 40mm is the way to go.

[ShakesFIST]

Drop leg holsters can be a real pain after more than a few hours. 40mm rounds are bulky and not light. Most guys who get rigs to carry 203 rounds on their legs get rid of them after their first trip out field. A MOLLE vest or belt set up for 40mm is the way to go.

Exactly. I had one on my leg with 6 rounds and eventually just put them on my vest.

[One Shot Tactical Supply]

Unfortunatly our issue vest is not MOLLE or modular for that matter.

Greg,

Another option you might want to look at is the Drop Zone pouch pals I carry, it replaces the canteen pouch or utility pouch with a Mules/Pals panel for attaching any aftermarket pouches to.

[cagey veteran]

shakes fist and reverence are right on the money, drop leg units are good for direct action troops who are going hard for a limited timeframe. Light/line infantry Should consider bandoliers or pouches up on the high side. Would you do an obastacle course with drop leg units on? Just imagine!!
The Canadian forces did a study on this and the drop leg phenonema, found that it gets very tiresome very fast. I, will try to post the Reference. People in the "industry" are actually a bit perplexed as to why al lot the infantry guys are looking more like PSD guys.
. I heard the RCR are taking drop leg magx4 holders to afghan. seems like pretty mission specific thinking, and if so, good on them.

[cagey veteran]

http://taylorandfrancis.metapress.com/(sqj1ca55ygnmxi45wz3epjqw)/app/home/contribution.asp?referrer=parent&backto=issue,1,7;journal,19,120;linkingpublicationresults,1:100658,1

article on the science of load carrying ...a start.
Yeoman.
PM me if you like, with what you are thinking of getting and the best price. I can give you a quote too!!

[I_hate_posers]

What are you going to be doing? Are you deploying and as what(gwagon, lav, light, gate guard)? It all depends on the mission your doing. My platoon is doing kind of everything and I have a BHI leg rig (panel, 2 x 3 rd pouch) and it's awsome. I also put 4 in my chest rig. Just to let you know, I use a seperate belt for this and attached to this is my asp and bayonet. The thing that helps is HSGI hi speed low drag suspenders, friggen awsome! And I'm talking patrolling in the sandbox for hours, doing security for hours and riding in the vehicles for hours ( I think you get it). Alot of verbal crap, but this works for me and one other dude in my PL, hope you find something that works for you without spending alot of $$$$!

[Yeoman]

I'll be light infantryin it up. that's why I was looking at it, if I was still mech I wouldn't be as worried about this (why carry your kit when your kit can carry you right?)
I just thought that this might be an effective way to carry around the rounds. I've never tried it, nor had I ever heard of anyone trying it for more then a couple of minutes so I really didn't know how it could work out.
Greg

[Sabre]

I hate having things on my legs. I don't even like having kit in my trouser pockets. If I were you I wouldn't bother with the leg pouch at all. I'd carry two or three rounds in a pouch on your vest, for use straight away, and keep a bandolier in your daysack. If your doing 'light' infantry work that means you'll be tabbing with a daysack if not a bergan I assume. Plenty of room for those 40mm bombs in there!

Try sewing in some thick elastic loops into a suitable pouch on your assault vest. Just like a shotgun pouch, only bigger. Should hold the bombs safely. Seriously, don't bother with the leg rig.

[gafkiwi]

Do your issue "Tac Vests" have zip map pockets, If it does you can do a similar thing to what sabre said and have 50mm elastic strips sewn vertically in, so you just have to un do the zip and pull out a bomb. Before I moved on to a modular set up I used to carry 3 rds in each side. Set up correctly its not to bulky or uncomfortable. Biggest prob is getting the loops for the bombs in the right position and getting the tension on the elastic right.

One good thing with this method was if my role changed I didnt have to change anything on my vest. If I can find any pics I'll post them here.