Some Air Assault BS

[TacoDelRio]

Howdy

Is there a way that a new soldier signed up for MOS 11X/11B can "secure" a position in an air assault unit (10TH MTN, 101ST, 11 ACR) much the same way one can get an airborne contract?

Obviously the Army sends you where they want to, I'm still curious if there's any way.

[Buckeye67]

Unless my memory is worse than I care to admit - I seem to remember that back in the day, you could get a guaranteed duty assignment in your contract - i.e. you could get it written in that you would be posted to upon completion of basic and AIT.

If that's still an option, then I'd assume that if someone had it written in that they'd be assigned to Ft Campbell or Ft Drum, then they'd likely end up in an Air Assault unit like the 101st or 10th Mountain.

That's the only way I can think of, anyway.

[praetorian6]

When I went in as an 11X I was sent to the 101st, however I never had a choice and it was just the needs of the Army. I don't think that it was an option to choose like getting a contract for Airborne school or RIP. You are allowed to choose like 7 stations that you would like to go, but it is really just a wish list. You can later reenlist for a specific duty station, but not right off the bat. At least that's how it was (1997).

[tomek]

i joined in december and i am waiting till august 8 for basic,im 11x and and they told me that after i finish basic and ait i have a choice of 3 bases if i write down the same place 3 times i have a 75% chance i will be stationed there.

[TacoDelRio]

Hmmmmm

I'm curious because I'm going to re-enlist and I don't really want to be stuck doing something too crappy. After my first time in Benning, my buddies kinda went to different places, just the Army putting people wherever it needed them.

I'm just wondering if there's some way I can COUGH COUGH suggest an air assault unit and have a better than 50% chance of going somewhere other than being an 11M.

[tomek]

if u cant get it in your contract u can apply for it later thats what im going to do i made the mistake of not asking about it when i signed up

[Laconian]

I didn't realize the 10th Mountain & the 11th ACR had been re-designated as Air Assault units, do you know when that happened?
Anyway, back to your question, if you are re-enlisting I think you have a better shot of asking for a post/unit assignment. What MOS do you want if not 11M (Is this still Mech Infantry?) I had several troops that re-enlisted and changed from 11M or 11H to go 19D and choose a unit way back when, but both were E5's and units they wanted were short so they got their post,unit and a bonus. But that was long ago & I don't know what they worked out with the re-enlistment NCO. Good Luck.

[Adam Wilhelm]

If i don´t remember wrong, you left the army because you were hurt?
How is the old "war wound" these days and can you still reenlist?

[Sgt.Axeman1224]

Picking your assignment is based on your MOS and the Army's needs for it. I am a 25-C so i can choose where I want to go. Still havent decided where though, any suggestions?

[TacoDelRio]

I didn't realize the 10th Mountain & the 11th ACR had been re-designated as Air Assault units, do you know when that happened?
Anyway, back to your question, if you are re-enlisting I think you have a better shot of asking for a post/unit assignment. What MOS do you want if not 11M (Is this still Mech Infantry?) I had several troops that re-enlisted and changed from 11M or 11H to go 19D and choose a unit way back when, but both were E5's and units they wanted were short so they got their post,unit and a bonus. But that was long ago & I don't know what they worked out with the re-enlistment NCO. Good Luck.

I assume 11 ACR is air assault. My buddy was in 11 ACR, then was transferred to USAREC, and what happened after he finished recruiter school? 11 ACR was deployed to Iraq, first deployment since Vietnam.

I'm not sure if they're AA, or when they were designated as such, if so. 11M is still mech infantry, with alot of emphasis now going to Stryker Brigade Combat Teams (SBCT's), which are all high-speed and stuff but I'd still rather fly around and live in the field some more. 10th Mountain has been air assault for a while, but I don't know for sure. I didn't want to be assigned there before, thinking I'd be climbing mountains. Now I do it for a hobby, and they don't do it at all. :(

If I had a choice, I'd pick 101st or 11 ACR. 11 ACR is based in Irinw NTC which is 2 hours from my house, and I kinda grew up in the desert sorta, so it's where I feel at home. Beats friggin' Kentucky. 101st gets more action, so theoretically you'd have a better chance at a CIB and all that stuff in there.

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[mudbunny]

Howdy

Is there a way that a new soldier signed up for MOS 11X/11B can "secure" a position in an air assault unit (10TH MTN, 101ST, 11 ACR) much the same way one can get an airborne contract?

Obviously the Army sends you where they want to, I'm still curious if there's any way.

It's pretty much impossible because I don't think you can get AAschool in a first timer contract and even if you could it doesn't even come close to getting you to Campbell. When new soldiers get to the Division they send them to AAschool so being pre-qualified doesn't help you any more than say, being already jump qualified and putting in for Ft. Bragg. So, to answer your question, it's basically impossible for your first contract, to do that. Campbell is a nice post though, better than Bragg or Hood IMHO.

[TacoDelRio]

It's pretty much impossible because I don't think you can get AAschool in a first timer contract and even if you could it doesn't even come close to getting you to Campbell. When new soldiers get to the Division they send them to AAschool so being pre-qualified doesn't help you any more than say, being already jump qualified and putting in for Ft. Bragg. So, to answer your question, it's basically impossible for your first contract, to do that. Campbell is a nice post though, better than Bragg or Hood IMHO.

I understand that you can't secure AA school in a contract. I'm just wondering if there's some sorta way to "steer" in that direction, getting 101st for example instead of 25th or whatever.

I guess it'll just be a crapshoot. Beats the hell outta civie life thus far.

[ShakesFIST]

Just looking at the name of 11 ACR should tell you that it probably is not an air assualt unit. ACR stands for Armored Cavalry Regiment. Unless the army decided to make a heavy air assualt unit...

[TacoDelRio]

Just looking at the name of 11 ACR should tell you that it probably is not an air assualt unit. ACR stands for Armored Cavalry Regiment. Unless the army decided to make a heavy air assualt unit...

Yeah I know. :)

Apparently their attached 11 series and guys do more heliborne work now than from BFV's. Then again, I'm still not sure. I'll ask my buddy in a while.

[mudbunny]

The difference there is that the 101st as a whole is an Air Assualt Division and has the assets to support a Divisions Air Assualt needs, as opposed to having a Brigade or two in the 10th MTN being dedicated to Air Assault operations. After your 2 years is up at whatever "hole" you go to, start putting in 4187's (it's basically a wishlist form for assignments and training) for Campbell and keep sending them to your branch manager (11b) in D.C until they start calling you, begging you to stop sending them.

[tomek]

from what i know there is no more 11h and stuff like that all they have now is 11b and 11c u go in as 11x and then the army choses which your going to be my recruiter said that he was the last of 11h.hopefully i will get 11b i dont want to be 11c

[rjbhutton]

where can I find a decoder for all these designations that you guys are throwing around... I have next to no idea about what you're all talking about! except that the numbers are the MOS designators(?)... can someone elaborate or point me to a DOD doc that gives the full list... what's an 11b? what's the difference between an 11b and 11c? what's a 25c? I know 18Z, 18B, and so forth from (whispers...) America's Army!!! Apologies for my ignorance... I'm a Brit... no excuse I know, but, hey!! Any help would be appreciated from the btdt guys.

[Miles.]

where can I find a decoder for all these designations that you guys are throwing around... I have next to no idea about what you're all talking about! except that the numbers are the MOS designators(?)... can someone elaborate or point me to a DOD doc that gives the full list... what's an 11b? what's the difference between an 11b and 11c? what's a 25c? I know 18Z, 18B, and so forth from (whispers...) America's Army!!! Apologies for my ignorance... I'm a Brit... no excuse I know, but, hey!! Any help would be appreciated from the btdt guys.

http://usmilitary.about.com/od/enlistedjobs/a/arjobs.htm

[TacoDelRio]

11C, C stands for Crappy-ass job. I've never met an 11C who enjoyed his job.

[Noble713]

Our Chaplain Assistant was double-stacked and had been at Ft. Campbell. I seem to recall him saying that going to Campbell was the easiest way to get Air Assault. He mentioned that as soon as you get on post and settled in, they just ask you "Wanna go Air Assault?" "Um, yeah.." "Ok, we'll get you scheduled." Didn't seem to matter what specific unit you were with or what job, they practically hand it out to everyone. Take it with a grain of salt....

[tomek]

11C, C stands for Crappy-ass job. I've never met an 11C who enjoyed his job.

my friend is in the 82 AA and hes 11c he said he likes it but he says 11b is alot better

[mudbunny]

Our Chaplain Assistant was double-stacked and had been at Ft. Campbell. I seem to recall him saying that going to Campbell was the easiest way to get Air Assault. He mentioned that as soon as you get on post and settled in, they just ask you "Wanna go Air Assault?" "Um, yeah.." "Ok, we'll get you scheduled." Didn't seem to matter what specific unit you were with or what job, they practically hand it out to everyone. Take it with a grain of salt....

As soon as you get to your unit from in-processing, they send you. And they hand out the SLOT to the school, not the wings, there's a difference.

[TacoDelRio]

Our Chaplain Assistant was double-stacked and had been at Ft. Campbell. I seem to recall him saying that going to Campbell was the easiest way to get Air Assault. He mentioned that as soon as you get on post and settled in, they just ask you "Wanna go Air Assault?" "Um, yeah.." "Ok, we'll get you scheduled." Didn't seem to matter what specific unit you were with or what job, they practically hand it out to everyone. Take it with a grain of salt....

I've got that.

I'd just rather ride in a UH60 than a Stryker.

[XxDualityxX]

where can I find a decoder for all these designations that you guys are throwing around... I have next to no idea about what you're all talking about! except that the numbers are the MOS designators(?)... can someone elaborate or point me to a DOD doc that gives the full list... what's an 11b? what's the difference between an 11b and 11c? what's a 25c? I know 18Z, 18B, and so forth from (whispers...) America's Army!!! Apologies for my ignorance... I'm a Brit... no excuse I know, but, hey!! Any help would be appreciated from the btdt guys.

b is bravo which is infantry c is charlie which is like indirect or mortarmen.

[Miles.]

b is bravo which is infantry c is charlie which is like indirect or mortarmen.

I already gave him the key. Don't give out wrong information, please.

[Till Eulenspiegel]

I already gave him the key. Don't give out wrong information, please.

How was that incorrect information?

[Miles.]

How was that incorrect information?

Any 11 series is infantry.

[Till Eulenspiegel]

Any 11 series is infantry.

Oh, you're right. I stand corrected. I instantly just thought infantry, infantryman, rifleman, good...

But really, the term "infantryman" is such a silly designation that I can understand why he wrote infantry.

[TacoDelRio]

Que?

Apparently they merged 11M into 11B somewhat recently. That's new to me.

[Miles.]

Oh, you're right. I stand corrected. I instantly just thought infantry, infantryman, rifleman, good...

But really, the term "infantryman" is such a silly designation that I can understand why he wrote infantry.

It's all good.

If I gave the guy the key and helped him out, what is there to add? ;)

[XxDualityxX]

Any 11 series is infantry.

Yeah I know but 11c is indirect infantry or mortar crew isnt it.

[Miles.]

Yeah I know but 11c is indirect infantry or mortar crew isnt it.

http://usmilitary.about.com/od/enlistedjobs/a/arjobs.htm

[XxDualityxX]

http://www.goarmy.com/JobDetail.do?id=46

[TacoDelRio]

Heheheh apparently there is an air assault slot available to recruits, but it's a pain to get it in USAREC.

Hmmm things are getting more interesting.