Pic Of The Moment

[Seraphim]

http://img36.photobucket.com/albums/v110/Sinasta/Keeping_Control.jpg

[Frens]

what happened in this photo?

[Haiw]

A purple football came down from the heavens and brought peace to the middle east.

Okay, I'm kidding, I don't know.

[Maverick77]

looks photoshoped

[George W. Bush]

looks photoshoped

looks like you don't know physics.

[Javehn]

The coward soldier is so affraid from the old man , so he awaits when the oldy turn his back on him , and cowardly shoots him in the back .
But the soldier is also half blind , not noticing that there is a cameramen far far far away from his sight , taking the pictures of the hidious act .

Yes . I think that's pretty much raps it up, no ?

[Seraphim]

No its not photoshoped, i remember seeing this abit ago on the forums. Hes firing a rubber bullet thing or whatever there called, 2 disperse a crowd

Pretty much nailed it on the head, hes shooting rubber bullets to disperse a crowd.

[Colt45]

Oh so the Israeli's are cowards eh? What about the numerous photos of men just like himself (old man) firing rifles blindly and throwing rocks (thousands daily) at the IDF? They had them backed up to their "last castle" about a year ago and retreated out o sheer pressure from the U.N. But of course they keep coming until they do it again, and again, and again, until the job is finally done. IMHO I think they shoulda taken the chance they had in the first place. Suicide bombings, you look at the dead faces of the pics that are constantly posted on here, blood everywhere, kids dead, and you tell me who the cowards are...



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"Hard Times Don't Last, But Hard Men Do"- Anonymous

[HELEX]

I dont like the Israeli Goverment or their politics, but this picture looks like a fake.

[Frens]

The coward soldier is so affraid from the old man , so he awaits when the oldy turn his back on him , and cowardly shoots him in the back .
But the soldier is also half blind , not noticing that there is a cameramen far far far away from his sight , taking the pictures of the hidious act .

Yes . I think that's pretty much raps it up, no ?

everybody could be a terrorist... also a old man, a child or a woman!

[Javehn]

Oh so the Israeli's are cowards eh? What about the numerous photos of men just like himself (old man) firing rifles blindly and throwing rocks (thousands daily) at the IDF? They had them backed up to their "last castle" about a year ago and retreated out o sheer pressure from the U.N. But of course they keep coming until they do it again, and again, and again, until the job is finally done. IMHO I think they shoulda taken the chance they had in the first place. Suicide bombings, you look at the dead faces of the pics that are constantly posted on here, blood everywhere, kids dead, and you tell me who the cowards are...


No !! How heartless this soldier can be , to shoot this old man in his back ??? Just look at this picture !!!
And infront of cameramen , no more no less !! That shows the real cause of Israelies , and their coward army . How can you tell me those things ?? Not in my shift !!

[Macs.]

http://img36.photobucket.com/albums/v110/Sinasta/Keeping_Control.jpg

Just look at the ankel of the photo.

When you look at it first you think he shoots at the man, but in realitiy he shoots somewhere more to the right.

Also, when I look close, it looks like a photoshop fake.

And this photo isn't even hosted at "*****images", what makes me belive that it is a fake.

Sorry for my bad english, but I just woke up. p-)

[Haiw]

rofl @ Javehn
rofl @ guys reaction to Javehn
:lol:

[IDFM203]

Oh so the Israeli's are cowards eh? What about the numerous photos of men just like himself (old man) firing rifles blindly and throwing rocks (thousands daily) at the IDF? They had them backed up to their "last castle" about a year ago and retreated out o sheer pressure from the U.N. But of course they keep coming until they do it again, and again, and again, until the job is finally done. IMHO I think they shoulda taken the chance they had in the first place. Suicide bombings, you look at the dead faces of the pics that are constantly posted on here, blood everywhere, kids dead, and you tell me who the cowards are...


No !! How heartless this soldier can be , to shoot this old man in his back ??? Just look at this picture !!!
And infront of cameramen , no more no less !! That shows the real cause of Israelies , and their coward army . How can you tell me those things ?? Not in my shift !!Yes and to top it off the coward soldier was an idiot, I mean at least when the old pali’s back is turned, the soldier might as well use real live bullets instead of the rubber ones, I mean it just doesn’t feel like the coward soldier knew what the proper Israeli procedure was when a old pali’s back is turned especially when the news media is there.

yes that is thier procedre dont argue with me I have seen it in ISM news clippings etc... :D

Salem :D

[Javehn]

Ah , salam alykum , inshallah my dearh muhabarat IDFM203.
So , how it's shaking , my dear Palestinian Kufar ? Sho bedsawi ?

[IDFM203]

Ah , salam alykum , inshallah my dearh muhabarat IDFM203.
So , how it's shaking , my dear Palestinian Kufar ? Sho bedsawi ?opps yeah if people are stupid enough to ignore my sig ;) then yes salem my infidal freind......look at you evil zionists shooting our poor helpless man in the back with real bullets.

idbach al yahood!! idbach al yahood (come on my brother "one", you can chant along ;))

[Argyll]

Perhaps this Kind Israeli soldier is just helping the other guy test a new type of Body Armour called "Ouch that fokin stung mate" ;)

[Javehn]

Inshallah , my brother Argyll . Inshallah . But i think , that the jew filthy soldier is aiming at the donkey next to oldy guy . After he kills him , he will foock him in his behind entrances , and then use the bloud as a matsa apettiser . And then he will eat the Kosher donkey .

Brothers !!! I have found another proofe of yahoodi extermination of Palestinian people : The filthy jews using Sarin gas to kill those poor kids !!! Where are you , hope , where are you justice !!

http://a1112.g.akamai.net/7/1112/492/03312000/news.lycos.com/news/ot_getImage.asp?op=img&id=548918

Look at this giant silencer , my brothers !!! They are want to shoosh the extermination of Palestine kids !! And the darkness fall upon earth ...
http://wwwi.*******.com/images/2004-02-25T133020Z_01_GAZ04_RTRIDSP_2_MIDEAST.jpg

Say with me you : "Itbah al yahud" ! "Itbah al yahud" ! "Itbah al yahud" ! "Itbah al yahud" !

[mustamato]

Let´s say that it did happen. What would happen to this soldier? I guess nothing?

[Javehn]

What a surprice , Musti . First of all , i saw you first post before you edited it . You really do like to jump on those on those posts , like a fly on the light , and show everybody how they wrong , do you ?
I want to understand : You saying we have soldiers that run around and shooting people in the backs ?
Have a question to you : What will happend in Swedish army for that sort of thing ? So , GET READY FOR BIG SURPRISE : We , yes , we also have military police and courts !!!! YES , we do !!

[Marmot1]

What a surprice , Musti . First of all , i saw you first post before you edited it . You really do like to jump on those on those posts , like a fly on the light , and show everybody how they wrong , do you ?
I want to understand : You saying we have soldiers that run around and shooting people in the backs ?
Have a question to you : What will happend in Swedish army for that sort of thing ? So , GET READY FOR BIG SURPRISE : We , yes , we also have military police and courts !!!! YES , we do !!
cannot be!!! ;)

[MSG Dman]

To determine if it is a real or a photoshop, we need to look at the action of the weapon:

Would there be this large of a muzzle flash? I have never seen one this large.

Would there be more recoil?

Would the bolt have started coming back?

Would a piece of brass be in the air after being ejected?

I am not saying it is fake, just saying that people familiar with the function of that particular weapon may be able to figure this out without wondering if it is real or fake.

Instead of an ignorant argument, lets use this forum and talk weapons, maybe everyone would learn something about the guns they see in the pictures.

Here is my challenge, anyone with specific knowledge of the way this particular weapon discharges a round, give us an honest assesment of this photo.

[Hydro]

He's firing a rubber bullet. IIRC, the Israelis have a system where the rubber projectile is inserted into the adaptor on the muzzle, then a blank is fired from the weapon, launching the projectile. Blanks won't cycle the working parts, that explains the bolt not moving (the brass would have to be manually ejected). They also produce much more muzzle flash, so everythings normal so far. This is basically what I've heard, so if anyone with actual experience of this system feels the need to correct me, then go ahead.

[el_kab0ng]

Contrary to popular belief, and all the anti-Israeli people in here, the IDF guy is NOT firing that at the old man.

There's a series of pictures I have seen that show he is firing it to the right of that old man at a group of hoodlums throwing rocks.

Before you guys go off on Israel being cowardice, you need to take a cold hard look at the region. It's easy to take a stance one way or another when you don't live in the area. Let me wipe out 6 million of your kind and then tell you how to run your nation. :backhand:

[MSG Dman]

He's firing a rubber bullet. IIRC, the Israelis have a system where the rubber projectile is inserted into the adaptor on the muzzle, then a blank is fired from the weapon, launching the projectile. Blanks won't cycle the working parts, that explains the bolt not moving (the brass would have to be manually ejected). They also produce much more muzzle flash, so everythings normal so far.

Finnally, someone who can give some facts to back up his talk. You make some good points about the weapon which help to answer my initial questions about its validity. I still feel it is a VERY large muzzle flash for a plastic bullet, but your points are taken.

Thanks

[Seraphim]

I dont know what kind of blanks your shooting...

Most of the people know me well enough in here to know that I dont post photoshopped pics.

[UkrainianAmerican]

rofl @ Jay Vehn
ITBACH AL-YAHOOOD!

[AK-Lover]

"rubber bullets" riiiiiiiigggggghhhhhtttttt! :P rofl

[Haiw]

I don't know what you think, but I'm sure Javehn and IDFM203 are arab terrorists.

Are so.

[Vance]

I don't know what you think, but I'm sure Javehn and IDFM203 are arab terrorists.

Are so.
Haiw is a conservative Christian ;)

Is too!

[Javehn]

Haiw is a nephew of Netherland queen . Do so .

But seriosly , this is some background on it : That capture happened in 9 March in Rammalah city . Israeli constructors started to build wall there , and Palestinian guys started to demonstrate , and interfear to workers . As you see , the cameramen is Jamal Aruri , local Palestinian photographer for AP . Thus he is capturing the picture , in this way offcorse . Grandpa actually have nothing to do with the picture , and passed the place .
Soldier is shooting to the grandpa's right , on a groop of disturbers .
You can see some extention on the M16 rifle . It's called "thampon" on local language . Inside the extention there are 3 rubber bullets , that getting fired by blanks in the magazine .

[UkrainianAmerican]

Haiw is a nephew of Netherland queen . Do so .

But seriosly , this is some background on it : That capture happened in 9 March in Rammalah city . Israeli constructors started to build wall there , and Palestinian guys started to demonstrate , and interfear to workers . As you see , the cameramen is Jamal Aruri , local Palestinian photographer for AP . Thus he is capturing the picture , in this way offcorse . Grandpa actually have nothing to do with the picture , and passed the place .
Soldier is shooting to the grandpa's right , on a groop of disturbers .
You can see some extention on the M16 rifle . It's called "thampon" on local language . Inside the extention there are 3 rubber bullets , that getting fired by blanks in the magazine .
You guys sure do have a sense of humor! rofl

[AirZone]

rofl rofl rofl rofl

you guys are crazy !
lol javehn you are funny !

[Javehn]

rofl rofl rofl rofl

you guys are crazy !
lol javehn you are funny !

yes , indeed i am , thank you thank you all . Some ISM guys didn't thought so back in old times ... Oh , those times ... p-)




cannot be!!! ;)

Oh , yes indeed my dear Kufar , it is possible . Here is the proof for that claim of mine : ;)

http://i5.ebayimg.com/03/i/01/5c/48/2b_1.JPG
The badge of our glorious MP . It's not a legend .

[buckeyedoc]

That image is most definitely photoshopped. There was the same image on here the other day without the muzzle flash. Haven't found it yet, but I'll keep looking.

[Pooga]

I am soooooo confused. Is Javehn joking? :|

[Javehn]

I am soooooo confused. Is Javehn joking? :|

rofl rofl rofl

Ok . To make it clear , i am Israeli , ok ? Just been joking .

And , the image is not photoshoped in any way . Just presented in false way . It was shot by Palestinian photographer , so he made it look the soldier as bad as possible . The image is not photoshoped .

[Seraphim]

Fine dont believe me.

[Javehn]

Fine dont believe me.

???

[Pooga]

Oh ok ok I forgive you, Javehn. I guess you did a good job of fooling me! Some of the stuff you were saying was pretty…um, dumb? Hehehe.

:lol:

[Seraphim]

Fine dont believe me.

???

Im talking about buckeye. He thinks I photoshopped it or someone else. But its not.

[Pooga]

Sera, where in the world did you find that dastardly, horrible avatar? :P

[M_S]

"rubber bullets"...I have heard they almost do the same damage as real ones and are very hard to remove because when it hits the bullet turns into several pieces.....

Is it true that Israel will build a "fence" on the jordanian border of the west bank?...thus creating the worlds biggest prison.

[Pooga]

If you get shot in the head, yes, rubber bullets can kill you.

A prison is to keep people in, not out.

[MVSpartan117]

I saw that movie ;)

[Pooga]

Ya Last Castle! Err was it Shawshank Redemption?

Would rubber bullets shatter? I'd think thats the whole point of rubber-coated bullets, so they wouldn't lodge three inches into your body, else why not just use real bullets, eh?

[M_S]

Pooga: A rubber bullet kan kill you even if doesnt hit the head

And if there are going to be a "fence" around the west bank then its a prison

[IDFM203]

"rubber bullets"...I have heard they almost do the same damage as real ones and are very hard to remove because when it hits the bullet turns into several pieces..... .well you heard wrong for in MOST cases rubber bullets are NOT lethal and couse much less damage

Listen everything can kill if used at extreme close up, hell those rocks and stones can also kill, but the fact is that rubber bullets in MOST cases don’t cause the same damage as a real bullet.

Anyways they are used only AFTER a lot of other less dangerous things have been used to disperse the hostile and aggressive crowd and they are mostly used from what is termed a safe distance to ensure its non lethality.

As for this pic, Javehn and others answered it already for there is no way in hell that soldier was shooting him in him in his back, it is against our ROEs and it is not something that we would ever do.

The photographer, with the name that he has, its no wonder the angle came out like that :roll:
That is not the surprise but rather whats surprising is that some here would be so willfully gullible to that angle (or I guess that too isn’t any surprise :roll: )




Is it true that Israel will build a "fence" on the jordanian border of the west bank?...thus creating the worlds biggest prison. before I address this, can you explain what do you mean by the Jordanian side?

Shalom :D

[citizen-k]

Its a known picture - another example of "reality created by the camera"

And no, what you shoot (with a camera) is not ALWAYS what happens in reality.

In real life (not the LSD effected reality mustamato lives in) IDF soldiers
do not shoot old men in the back for fun, and if they do they are punished.

In real life (not the LSD effected reality mustamato lives in) the palestinians are using 10 year old kids to pass explosives through check points. (as they did today, luck for us the police found the bomb in the kids bag, but I guess mustamato & friends will be angry about the police examining 10 year olds... :cantbeli: )

[SeanAshi]

maybe he had explosivies under his clothes

[M_S]

Jordanian border with the west bank

http://www.terrorism101.org/organizations/..%5Cstates%5Cpalestinianauthority.html

the border between green and yellow (html is not my thing)

[IDFM203]

To M_S (btw, what does that stand for?)

Ok you said before, "Is it true that Israel will build a "fence" on the jordanian border of the west bank?...thus creating the worlds biggest prison” and I got confused by that and perhaps what I will say now will in your eyes make your argument better, I don’t know, but I got confused for Israel has already had a fence on the border of Jordan for years now.

No its is making a anti terrorist security fence on or around (ok that is one of the issues) the 1967 lines (yes not all are on exactly the line) that is the only thing that it is doing now.


Anyways In the way that you present what a prison is, well I will argue that it is Israeli citizens as well that are living in worlds biggest prison for there is a fence on every border around Israel.

Hell even in our daily lives we live in more of a prison like then what the palis go through, I mean yes they have to go through checkpoints (that were set up to curb homicide bombing attack) but in Israel, in every school, in every mall, in every restaurant, in every building, in every public place, in every etc… we have to go through full security checks with opening bags, padding down etc….

Shalom :D

[Javehn]

Mate , i have strange question . Who is really in prison here . I mean , the same fence goes on our side to . And we can't enter to other side . Many Israeli workers worked to build electricity , roads , houses , pipe on Palestinian side , what else , ah , they have given the field technology ... So , many Israeli properties are on the other side of the fence. And no , Israeli people can't go freely inside . And , wait , yesterday i tried to went to the grossery shop, i was done third degree by the guard . Checkpoint on every single place in Israel . How nice .

So , who is infact in the prisson here ? ;) We are behind the fence here , mate . We have much more chekpoints then our Pali mates . It's not safe to walk around in the streets . What do you say , and what do you know ... We are in prisson !! Thank you M_S to let me understand that ;)


Let me count the amount of chekpoints i pass every day , to my college . Ok , i get to bus station , i get on bus , yes , i driving , security guard is checking the bus . I am off the bus , security guard of Autobus station almost stripping me , ok , i go to the college , security guard again stick the detector in my ass , nice . Hmm , 10 minutes ride ...

Damn , i wish i would live in west bank !! Ok , just kidding .

[M_S]

You are welcome Javehn ;)

It does actually sound like you also are in a kind of prison, its tragic for both sides indeed

The whole situation have reached a new sick level.

[M_S]

M_S stand for the first letters of my firstname and surname.


But most people seems to belive it stand for "Multiple Scelerosis" rofl

[Javehn]

You should Sclerosis , before it's too late .. ;) Not nice at all .

[Uncle Sam]

This is just my opinion...I could be wrong...

http://img30.photobucket.com/albums/v89/bargus/Keeping_Control.jpg

[Maverick77]

Yeah I think its fake..

but according to George W ****head I know nothing about physics.

[IDFM203]

It does actually sound like you also are in a kind of prison, its tragic for both sides indeed

.yes indeed however its even more tragic, after the fact that Israel (and thus one side made the effort) had (and I repeat from another thread…) from 1993 to the year 2000, Israel made BIG steps and BIG concessions for the sake of peace, with getting absolutely NOTHING in return!!

Israel had pulled out of every Palestinian town and city, to where the Palestinians had over 95 percent full autonomy over their own lives, not only that but they had plenty of jobs in Israel… there were also very very few checkpoints and overall (most of the chekpoints were set up AFTER the intifada broke out to curb the constant homicide attacks), the occupation or presence of IDF forces, were very well hidden or in a lot of places (like in their cities and towns etc..) were NON existent.

However all through that, the killings of Israelis and homicide bombings NEVER STOPPED and the incitement against Israel and a non acceptance for its existence in the mosques and in the children’s schools and in their textbooks, NEVER STOPPED.

And then in the year 2000, Barak offered to give up much much more and yet instead of the Palestinians returning for negotiation they started a war that a lot of times had them ONLY targeting civilians anywhere in Israel and not just beyond the 1967 lines.


The fact is that besides the few token English words of acceptance for the consumption of the gullible west (and never spoken in Arabic) a large segment of the Arab world and the Palestinians, do not and have never accepted Israel’s right to exist and they fight/support for the whole destruction of Israel.

As such, Israel had no choice, after what was constant homicide bombings and attacks on its civilians, it had no choice in 2002 (though it should have done it two years earlier…though the fact that it didn’t further shows Israel’s restraint), to go back in to their cities and towns to put a end to it or at least limit it and it has worked, to where before a homicide attack was almost daily or weekly and shooting attacks on Israelis was also that frequent, now its down to a monthly occurrence (and hopefully after the anti terrorist security fence is completed, it will limit it even further) , and shootings on Israeli are even more infrequent.

Understand that in no way am I saying that this is a 100 percent solution for its not and frankly, there is no 100 percent solution, though Israel’s actions after the Oslo process and the failure of the Palestinians themselves to fight terror or to even put in any real effort, has forced Israel to respond to defend ourselves and all this was in the absence of any TRUE peace partner on the other side no matter what (even after we pullout out of every etc…they had jobs etc... almost no checkpoints etc…..)


In summary, the anti terrorist security fence is a result of no choice forced onto Israel from what was before almost daily or weekly homicide bomber attacks and this fence will help to limit what was a constant influx of them just like the Gaza fence (which has had one for years) has made it to where in the past three (and now almost four) years, there have been virtually NO homicide bombers come from there.

Shalom :D

[M_S]

I can see that you save time by copying the same words in different threads ;)

[IDFM203]

I can see that you save time by copying the same words in different threads ;) you are a smart man my friend ;) , (or of course you can read where I my self wrote in that post that that I am taking a lot of it from another thread that I posted it from)

And hey, your point is a oft repeated point as my counter to it is, and it is relevant there and here wherever that "both sides" point is brought up.

Shalom :D (hey I copy this alot from other threads ;) ..........I guess I like to save time ;))

[Seraphim]

The pic is off msn week in pictures...if you dont believe me, then its your problem.

[Ice14]

No, the bolt goes back extracting the bullet and chambering another round only after the first shot has exited the barrel.

Yes, the flash looks way too big... I've never seen a flash that big even during night.

Yes, rubber rounds are lethal. A .223 (5.56) rubber round still fires at roughly 1250fps (depending on make). That's still not very fast, but it will pack about the same punch as a .22LR. Pistol ammo is different, but the range has to be adequate and shot placement exact.

However, I've never seen that type attachment at the end of the barrel, it might give a much larger flash (though I doubt it that big). Lemme know if my facts about rubber round velocity are mixed up, I'm just going by memory here.

[sierraone]

It is a shame the pic is of a rubber bullet...if it was a real round firing I would have it as wallpaper..

[Seraphim]

It is a shame the pic is of a rubber bullet...if it was a real round firing I would have it as wallpaper.. :cantbeli:

[big80a2]

http://community.webshots.com/s/image10/7/0/16/126370016pJGexO_ph.jpg

"Israel is using a new type of rubberbullet. The bullet is shot from a tankgun and can flip over ambulances carying wounded children. In this photo the bullet mist the ambulance and went straight on toward this poor boy, while his friend can just pull back his hand"

rofl lol look how easy I can make a wrong picture of the moment :lol:
anybody know if Palie propaganda urns a lot?? rofl ;)

[Seraphim]

http://community.webshots.com/s/image10/7/0/16/126370016pJGexO_ph.jpg

"Israel is using a new type of rubberbullet. The bullet is shot from a tankgun and can flip over ambulances carying wounded children. In this photo the bullet mist the ambulance and went straight on toward this poor boy, while his friend can just pull back his hand"

rofl lol look how easy I can make a wrong picture of the moment :lol:
anybody know if Palie propaganda urns a lot?? rofl ;)

:backhand:

[big80a2]

hey sera,
didn't ment to offence you but the camera man that took the photo....
sorry for the misunderstanding..

cheers

[M_S]

It is a shame the pic is of a rubber bullet...if it was a real round firing I would have it as wallpaper..



You are sick. :bash:

[He219]

Definately not photoshopped. It came in fresh as-is ...

http://cache.*****images.com/thumb/3057483.jpg?x=x&a=3057483&b=afp&t=1

RAMALLAH, -: An Israeli soldier fires rubber bullets to disperse demonstrators east of the West Bank of Ramallah 09 March 2004. Demonstrators gathered to protest the construction of a part of the Israeli built separation wall.AFP PHOTO/ JAMAL ARURI (Photo credit should read JAMAL ARURI/AFP/***** Images)

Today's pic's - March 9 (http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/viewtopic.php?t=10094&start=0)

;)

[IDFM203]

Definately not photoshopped. It came in fresh as-is ...

http://cache.*****images.com/thumb/3057483.jpg?x=x&a=3057483&b=afp&t=1

RAMALLAH, -: An Israeli soldier fires rubber bullets to disperse demonstrators east of the West Bank of Ramallah 09 March 2004. Demonstrators gathered to protest the construction of a part of the Israeli built separation wallAFP PHOTO/.JAMAL ARURI (Photo credit should read JAMAL ARURI/AFP/***** Images)

Today's pic's - March 9 (http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/viewtopic.php?t=10094&start=0)

;) I don’t know if its photoshopped or not for yes in general, this produces a bigger flash though I don’t remember it that big (but it has been a little while ;) )

To me it makes no difference for its not about rather its photoshoped or not but rather about the FALSE angle of it.............

I repeat from a earlier post about this pic and about our use of rubber bullets……

Listen everything can kill if used at extreme close up, hell those rocks and stones can also kill, but the fact is that rubber bullets in MOST cases don’t cause the same damage as a real bullet.

Anyways they are used only AFTER a lot of other less dangerous things have been used to disperse the hostile and aggressive crowd and they are mostly used from what is termed a safe distance to ensure its non lethality.

As for this pic, Javehn and others answered it already for there is no way in hell that soldier was shooting him in him in his back, it is against our ROEs and it is not something that we would ever do.

The photographer, with the name that he has, its no wonder the angle came out like that :roll:
That is not the surprise but rather what’s surprising is that some here would be so willfully gullible to that angle (or I guess that too isn’t any surprise :roll: )

Shalom :D

[Seraphim]

Thanks for the backup He219

[Uncle Sam]

http://img30.photobucket.com/albums/v89/bargus/Keeping_Control99.jpg

[sierraone]

Probably these rounds don't produce any blowback so the case has to be extracted manually. Rifle grenades work like that.

[obd]

I have an observation none of you all notied, even IDF M203!!!.

If you actually look at the angles involved in the photo, the Israeli soldier is not even aiming at the person in picture but is actually firing at something to his rigth which is off camera.

Although at first glance he appears to be aiming at the person in the photo if you examine it you will see that he is aiming off to the right a bit more!!!!!

Just an observation for you all...peace .

[Seraphim]

I have an observation none of you all notied, even IDF M203!!!.

If you actually look at the angles involved in the photo, the Israeli soldier is not even aiming at the person in picture but is actually firing at something to his rigth which is off camera.

Although at first glance he appears to be aiming at the person in the photo if you examine it you will see that he is aiming off to the right a bit more!!!!!

Just an observation for you all...peace .

Its been said already and is the truth.

[Herrmannek]

I have an observation none of you all notied, even IDF M203!!!.

If you actually look at the angles involved in the photo, the Israeli soldier is not even aiming at the person in picture but is actually firing at something to his rigth which is off camera.

Although at first glance he appears to be aiming at the person in the photo if you examine it you will see that he is aiming off to the right a bit more!!!!!

Just an observation for you all...peace .

Its been said already and is the truth.

Yup he is not aiming grandpa but gandma, and grandpa has nothing against it :)