In the loving memory of Sixgun...

[Haiw]

http://kriest.fiberworld.nl/pinkUNcommies2.jpg

[Vance]

??

[Merik]

I dont get it either. You a fan of the color pink Haiw? ;)

[Salty Dog]

I dont get it either. You a fan of the color pink Haiw? ;)

wait wait...in a gay way....or like....you like vag...in a straight way???

[Javehn]

I bellieve i can explain the deepest meaning of this picture by HAIW .
Our beloved but long lost member Sixgun had a thing for gays , communists , and UN . So , our beloved member HAIW have showed us , the greatest fear of a man , called Sixgun . This image will hunt him in his sleap , and never will it forfait his mind .

I bellieve it is indeed so , Haiw . Am i right ?

[Fox2]

rofl I get it...

Hint to those who don't: "Pinko communist UN" ;)

[Salty Dog]

now it makes sense. :P

[Argyll]

Your artistic talents Haiw,are superb!! ;)

[Haiw]

I bellieve i can explain the deepest meaning of this picture by HAIW .
Our beloved but long lost member Sixgun had a thing for gays , communists , and UN . So , our beloved member HAIW have showed us , the greatest fear of a man , called Sixgun . This image will hunt him in his sleap , and never will it forfait his mind .

I bellieve it is indeed so , Haiw . Am i right ?
For some reason his favorite combination of words was 'pinko UN-loving Eurowussie commies' or something along those lines...

[Merik]

Alright! Haiw actually did something that makes sense lol! woot

[Skaman]

I bellieve i can explain the deepest meaning of this picture by HAIW .
Our beloved but long lost member Sixgun had a thing for gays , communists , and UN . So , our beloved member HAIW have showed us , the greatest fear of a man , called Sixgun . This image will hunt him in his sleap , and never will it forfait his mind .

I bellieve it is indeed so , Haiw . Am i right ?
For some reason his favorite combination of words was 'pinko UN-loving Eurowussie commies' or something along those lines...


well done

[mocking_loudly_died]

Very pretty.

[Flagg]

The only thing missing is having an animated GIF of Kofi Annan giving Sixgun the finger.......I think he'd like that as he's so fond of that word beginning with an N.

[TRACER_BULLET]

LOL!!!!!!!!! rofl

thats great Haiw :D

[TRACER_BULLET]

::double post::

[EYE SPY]

i always enjoyed it when he accused me of being a "red-diaper baby"

[George W. Bush]

Six-gun needs to get laid ASAP. Fsckin' motormouth.

If he came up to me in real life and starting blabbering about **** I didn't care I wouldn't hesitate to slap him across the face so why do it on the internet?

[Catch22]

Haiw, I'm affraid you missed one thing which seemed fundamental to the "World-as-Sixgun-sees-it". While speaking of Europe, his deep insight on the political history of "Old Continent" made him see as all as muslim invaded, or almost turning to Islam in a few next years...

But really - I guess this pink gay-Euro-Commie-UN-mujaheddin cocktail would be just too much even for Sixgun himself :roll:

[budanski]

Don't speak too soon. Europe isnt replenishing itself (http://www.straitstimes.com/world/story/0,4386,240304,00.html?) (population wise).

[memphiz]

rofl

[budanski]

well done

Still not as "kick-ass" as yours...

http://www.imageshack.us/files2/Image.jpg

Just don't expect the same folks who worked hard to get Six Guns booted to have the same say about you.

[mocking_loudly_died]

I need to pee.

[Jack Mehoff]

I need to pee.

I need the girl in your avatar.

[mocking_loudly_died]

I need to pee.

I need the girl in your avatar.

Wait till I post my next avatar - oh baby, all new asian girlies.

[memphiz]

I need to pee.

I need the girl in your avatar.

Wait till I post my next avatar - oh baby, all new asian girlies.
you should do one with latino chicks :D

[cut]

I need to pee.

I need the girl in your avatar.

Wait till I post my next avatar - oh baby, all new asian girlies.
you should do one with latino chicks :D

you should

[Skaman]

well done

Still not as "kick-ass" as yours...

http://www.imageshack.us/files2/Image.jpg

Just don't expect the same folks who worked hard to get Six Guns booted to have the same say about you.


It represents the irony. A war for oil causes soldiers lives who in-turn decompose into the soil and over millions of years will create the very ingredient they died for. Its dark humor, its irony, its outlandish, it’s the face of George Bush's foreign policy in Iraq. Nonetheless, this forum voted against it, and I respectively removed it.

[Sir Zach of R.]

I still hate your guts. :bash: DO you have ANY proof that we went to war for oil? Why the hell should we need to? We're sitting on it! 30 years equivalents in Alaska. We only need .01% of the entire ANWR range to dig for it. Although scientists have stated that it would require atleast 13% to dig, the experts (oil men) state that only .01% of the entire ANWR area would be used. Besides, do you really think I give a f*ck about the porcupine carobou? Hell no.

[Skaman]

I still hate your guts


I wont lose any sleep.

p-)

[SeanAshi]

Haiw
http://rds.yahoo.com/S=96062883/K=your+a+fag/v=2/l=IVS/*-http://xsco.net/global/img/bb/nopriv_fag.jpg

[Haiw]

Geez SeanAshi...did I offend your buttbuddy?

[WARPIG]

It is pretty sad to see how a forum with the potential and intent of intelligent debate and discussion hosts so many pitiful minds.
For those of you who take personal joy in having Sixgun booted from this forum.. get a damn life. I completely agree to the decision to drop him.. but the personal and emotional dram that some of you bring here is truly sad. Feel free to lash out at me if it fills your pitiful, empty existance.
Dicamus, the only thing worse than your ignorant idea of "war for oil" is your cowardice to not stand up for it. I may not agree with your opinions, (not having cheaper gas at the pumps so far might be one clue) but I think you know I respect them. If you are confident in your opinion.. prove it..posting some idiotic "blood for oil" sig is just a weak insult and only makes your position seem juvenile and inept. Look at all of Sixgun's poo flinging bull****. As funny and creative as much of it was... it was all bull**** and no one ever gave it any credibility.

[Jack Mehoff]

Sad thing is the same guy who made this thread was also the same person who defended ducimus19 in the name of "freedom of speech". We had several polls in the past to ban ducimus and i alway voted "no".

I thought this forum value plethora of opinions. I guess I was wrong

[Haiw]

Sad thing is the same guy who made this thread was also the same person who defended ducimus19 in the name of "freedom of speech". We had several polls in the past to ban ducimus and i alway voted "no".

I thought this forum value plethora of opinions. I guess I was wrong
Jack, if Sixgun had just given his already bull****iotic opinions he wouldn't have been banned, and I actually would have been against banning him. That's also the reason duci isn't banned; he might sometimes produce stuff you don't agree with, and it might sometimes be bull**** (to be honest, I hardly ever agree with anything he says), but at least he could bring it without feeling the need to accompany at least half of his posts with racial slurs, country-bashing (there's a difference between country-bashing and policy-bashing (and the way you do it)), basically running a hate-campaign, and being the biggest ****-stirer.
Anyway, you can say of duci what you want, but at least he can run a discussion in a polite way.
About his famous sig picture; it was open for interpretation... you could see offense in it if you wanted to, but it wasn't intended that way and he took it down.

Oh well...so much for that.
WARPIG, this thread wasn't started to start feasting over his ban, it's just that he was already banned when I thought of it and I didn't think of it earlier. Personally, I don't enjoy seeing people banned, however I AM happy that atleast his absence will leave the general discussion forum without his pollution.

[Skaman]

It is pretty sad to see how a forum with the potential and intent of intelligent debate and discussion hosts so many pitiful minds.
For those of you who take personal joy in having Sixgun booted from this forum.. get a damn life. I completely agree to the decision to drop him.. but the personal and emotional dram that some of you bring here is truly sad. Feel free to lash out at me if it fills your pitiful, empty existance.
Dicamus, the only thing worse than your ignorant idea of "war for oil" is your cowardice to not stand up for it. I may not agree with your opinions, (not having cheaper gas at the pumps so far might be one clue) but I think you know I respect them. If you are confident in your opinion.. prove it..posting some idiotic "blood for oil" sig is just a weak insult and only makes your position seem juvenile and inept. Look at all of Sixgun's poo flinging bull****. As funny and creative as much of it was... it was all bull**** and no one ever gave it any credibility.


I haven’t had any time to create any 'anti America' posts lately and digging up dirt can take quite some sweet time. Later tonight I will try and find some information as to why I speculate the US is truly in Iraq. Then we can go at it. But for know, you will have to wait.

As for six-gun, it was not his opinion which had him banned; it was his prejudice, racism, hate, and bigotry


ie. 'ni*ger lovers'

Pink communists bastards

Gay Bashing

Euro Bashing etc.


I know we have all broken the forum rules at some point, I know for certain I have. From my understanding, SIXGUN was banned for his repetitious breaking of forum rules. Simple as that. Was ample warning not provided to him in advance? I think so.

[Trigger]

Not quite duci. He got warned for #4 and finally banned for #7.

The Forum Rules

The Don'ts

4. Don't use racial slurs.

7. Don't make multiple accounts for yourself. If it's discovered (it's not difficult) that you have multiple accounts, all of them will be deactivated and most likely your ip subnet banned.

[Haiw]

If you look up there in the general forum in the sticky topic about country-bashing there's another warning for Sixgun there as well...

[Rantanplan]

You are a Troll Duci BUT your argument are very often plausible and right like this one. Sixgun is a Nazi and we can't tolerate Nazis on this Forum as we can't tolerate them in the real World. Basta!

[Jack Mehoff]

Sad thing is the same guy who made this thread was also the same person who defended ducimus19 in the name of "freedom of speech". We had several polls in the past to ban ducimus and i alway voted "no".

I thought this forum value plethora of opinions. I guess I was wrong
Jack, if Sixgun had just given his already bull****iotic opinions he wouldn't have been banned, and I actually would have been against banning him. That's also the reason duci isn't banned; he might sometimes produce stuff you don't agree with, and it might sometimes be bull**** (to be honest, I hardly ever agree with anything he says), but at least he could bring it without feeling the need to accompany at least half of his posts with racial slurs, country-bashing (there's a difference between country-bashing and policy-bashing (and the way you do it)), basically running a hate-campaign, and being the biggest ****-stirer.
Anyway, you can say of duci what you want, but at least he can run a discussion in a polite way. About his famous sig picture; it was open for interpretation... you could see offense in it if you wanted to, but it wasn't intended that way and he took it down.

Oh well...so much for that.
WARPIG, this thread wasn't started to start feasting over his ban, it's just that he was already banned when I thought of it and I didn't think of it earlier. Personally, I don't enjoy seeing people banned, however I AM happy that atleast his absence will leave the general discussion forum without his pollution.

rofl Polite way? You're talking about a guy(duci) who has several polls just to boot him out? He must be really "popular", eh?

Now it's your turn to find Sixgun's obnoxious comments



I fear that much of the world cannot withstand this flood of Americanization, and will eventfully be poisoned by this horrible virus. McDonalds to Jerry Springer- America is that seed attempting to spread its filth to a clean world.


It turned you into an ignorant prick no? oops soorry, enlighten me, I forgot your american, I should have known that. hehe(valley girl giggle)

[Trigger]

Yeah I left that out because almost all of us do that regardless of the rules.

[WARPIG]

I actually agree with you Haiw.. I guess my rant was just a little reaction to the stink that found it's way onto this thread. (kind of like the dry-heaves) I also don't have a problem with the banning of six. I would rather have had more opposition to him with an equal creative cynicism. Hood affords a great deal of freedom of speech and opinion here.. that means we have to put up with a great deal of bull****. Take away the bull****.. and we lose some of that freedom. ... plus some pretty funny racial and derrogatory humor.

I have said a few times before.. little things affect little minds. Dicamus' former controversial sig.. was more of a gimmick. A tool to draw attention to his opinion. Adolescent.. but generally effective. People were paying attention to his rhetoric and when he decided to pull the sig (after a great deal of hyping it up) he showed some good form.
I was pointing out that if he really had some confidence in the position he was taking with that sig.. then a gimmick was more damaging to his arguement and negated any credibility he could have brought to his position. But probobly knowing that the intellectually challenged, and emotionally immature members of this forum would cry out in anguish at the sheer insult of such an image... he brought some publicity to his username.

[Skaman]

Sad thing is the same guy who made this thread was also the same person who defended ducimus19 in the name of "freedom of speech". We had several polls in the past to ban ducimus and i alway voted "no".

I thought this forum value plethora of opinions. I guess I was wrong
Jack, if Sixgun had just given his already bull****iotic opinions he wouldn't have been banned, and I actually would have been against banning him. That's also the reason duci isn't banned; he might sometimes produce stuff you don't agree with, and it might sometimes be bull**** (to be honest, I hardly ever agree with anything he says), but at least he could bring it without feeling the need to accompany at least half of his posts with racial slurs, country-bashing (there's a difference between country-bashing and policy-bashing (and the way you do it)), basically running a hate-campaign, and being the biggest ****-stirer.

Anyway, you can say of duci what you want, but at least he can run a discussion in a polite way. About his famous sig picture; it was open for interpretation... you could see offense in it if you wanted to, but it wasn't intended that way and he took it down.

Oh well...so much for that.
WARPIG, this thread wasn't started to start feasting over his ban, it's just that he was already banned when I thought of it and I didn't think of it earlier. Personally, I don't enjoy seeing people banned, however I AM happy that atleast his absence will leave the general discussion forum without his pollution.

rofl Polite way? You're talking about a guy(duci) who has several polls just to boot him out? He must be really "popular", eh?

Now it's your turn to find Sixgun's obnoxious comments



I fear that much of the world cannot withstand this flood of Americanization, and will eventfully be poisoned by this horrible virus. McDonalds to Jerry Springer- America is that seed attempting to spread its filth to a clean world.


It turned you into an ignorant prick no? oops soorry, enlighten me, I forgot your american, I should have known that. hehe(valley girl giggle)


Again this is brought up. I have apologized for this how many times? Yet you feel you need to bring it up time and time again. It is one of the only instances I have made such an outburst. In the hundreds of posts I have made, this is but a mere few. I see of it of poor character to speak in such a manner and I have thus far refrained from doing so. Jack, let it rest. You look like an idiot digging up the same filth time after time. When was the comment made? Several months ago….

[Haiw]

rofl Polite way? You're talking about a guy(duci) who has several polls just to boot him out? He must be really "popular", eh?

Now it's your turn to find Sixgun's obnoxious comments
Popularity doesn't say much; most of it was just because they totally disagreed with what he said, or thought it was total bullcrap. Like I said, some thing he said about Americans were somewhat out of line, yet not completely unfair (though maybe put in the wrong words). Also I should say anything 'out of line' by duci was normally after he got dragged trough **** by others.



I fear that much of the world cannot withstand this flood of Americanization, and will eventfully be poisoned by this horrible virus. McDonalds to Jerry Springer- America is that seed attempting to spread its filth to a clean world. Just add the word culture in after America and he actually has an arguably yet quite valid point...


It turned you into an ignorant prick no? oops soorry, enlighten me, I forgot your american, I should have known that. hehe(valley girl giggle)[/quote]Somewhat out of line...but a joke. Anyway, like I said before; the way he was often dragged trough **** this is....pretty minor compared to that. Besides, the insults are pretty hard to find in his comments.


Oh, and...do you really want me to dig up Sixguns crap? I mean, I will if you insist...but it's just that it's so obvious.

[Skaman]

I fear that much of the world cannot withstand this flood of Americanization, and will eventfully be poisoned by this horrible virus. McDonalds to Jerry Springer- America is that seed attempting to spread its filth to a clean world.


This comment is not anti American. As an anti-globalization individual, I see any nation pushing their own way of life on another as ultimately wrong, and choking out individuality and cultural distinctiveness. How boring would this world be if we were all a homogenous Anglo Christian 9-5 suburban family? My nation has suffered this fate, and I hate to see the same thing occurring all over the globe.

America has many great aspects, though it respectively has many poor ones as well. Predominately, it seems that the poor ideals are exposed to the rest of the world.


The US does not contribute enough:

Morality, family beliefs, creed, human rights


While it provides plenty of:


Media, culture, fashion, business, American social-norms

[Trigger]

dicey wrote:

The US does not contribute enough:

Morality, family beliefs, creed, human rights


While it provides plenty of:


Media, culture, fashion, business, American social-norms
Enough?
Who decides what is enough?
How about the people who are allegedly obligated to contribute i.e. The Americans?

You believe we're forcing our way of life on the world right?
So we build a McDonalds or set up a Coke machine in your country. Are all your countrymen being forced at gunpoint to buy our product or do they choose to buy it?
When we built that McDonalds did we subsequently tear down the local burger joint? Not likely.
You hate America and you hate the fact that more people don't.

[Skaman]

dicey wrote:

The US does not contribute enough:

Morality, family beliefs, creed, human rights


While it provides plenty of:


Media, culture, fashion, business, American social-norms
Enough?
Who decides what is enough?
How about the people who are allegedly obligated to contribute i.e. The Americans?

You believe we're forcing our way of life on the world right?
So we build a McDonalds or set up a Coke machine in your country. Are all your countrymen being forced at gunpoint to buy our product or do they choose to buy it?
When we built that McDonalds did we subsequently tear down the local burger joint? Not likely.
You hate America and you hate the fact that more people don't.


American business drives out the small guys. America is a very potent and economically influential factor in the world. Stopping Americanization is near impossibility unless America actively chooses to not act in this way. American culture becomes so ingrained that it eventually becomes your own nations 'norm'

[Jack Mehoff]

duci,

If you don't like capitalism, may I recommend Cuba or China? All of us will donate money for your plane ticket

[Skaman]

duci,

If you don't like capitalism, may I recommend Cuba or China? All of us will donate money for your plane ticket


Can you see the difference between communism and anti-globalization?

[Trigger]

American business drives out the small guys. America is a very potent and economically influential factor in the world. Stopping Americanization is near impossibility unless America actively chooses to not act in this way. American culture becomes so ingrained that it eventually becomes your own nations 'norm'
Consumer decision drives out the small guys. If the local consumers found the American product offensive it would cease to exist.

Face it, a lot of people prefer American goods. It means something good to them. That's not to say 'no other country can produce the quality we can'. 25 years ago 'Levis' on the black market in the Soviet Union were the hottest commodity. Why? They were American.

[Beowulf]

duci,

If you don't like capitalism, may I recommend Cuba or China? All of us will donate money for your plane ticket


Can you see the difference between communism and anti-globalization?

Would you have the federal government forcibly restrict American companies from exporting goods? What about the countries that are importing American goods and services?

It takes two to tango...

[pinkeye]

dicey wrote:

The US does not contribute enough:

Morality, family beliefs, creed, human rights


While it provides plenty of:


Media, culture, fashion, business, American social-norms
Enough?
Who decides what is enough?
How about the people who are allegedly obligated to contribute i.e. The Americans?

You believe we're forcing our way of life on the world right?
So we build a McDonalds or set up a Coke machine in your country. Are all your countrymen being forced at gunpoint to buy our product or do they choose to buy it?
When we built that McDonalds did we subsequently tear down the local burger joint? Not likely.
You hate America and you hate the fact that more people don't.

i agree with trigger that no one is forced to purchase american products, watch american shows, etc., etc. heck, american culture is terrific, although enough with the damn reality shows and the limp pop music a la britney and friends.

it would be kinda cool, however, if the u.s. would get off its high-horse on issues of democracy and freedom, morality and security. but then again, a few other states could be added to the "i'm an arrogant asshole of a country" list. it's the damn nuclear powers that are problematic because this exclusive club of wankers is largely responsible for the current crises raging around the planet...

[Beowulf]

ha! well said pinkeye

[Skaman]

duci,

If you don't like capitalism, may I recommend Cuba or China? All of us will donate money for your plane ticket


Can you see the difference between communism and anti-globalization?

Would you have the federal government forcibly restrict American companies from exporting goods? What about the countries that are importing American goods and services?

It takes two to tango...


One can establish a healthy market of exports without reshaping the very fundamentals of a nation’s culture and economy. ie. raw materials, science, health, automation to a degree, livestock etc.

Then focus on an internal market to satisfy “McDonalds and Levis”. America can maintain its current standard of living without sacrificing too much of its GDP from Globalization. Globalization even now works against the American people as more and more jobs are moved over-seas.

[Trigger]

Pinkeye wrote:

i agree with trigger that no one is forced to purchase american products, watch american shows, etc., etc. heck, american culture is terrific, although enough with the damn reality shows and the limp pop music a la britney and friends.
Word.
I'd like to personally apologize to the world for the export of American 'reality TV'.
That sh*t sucks.

[Beowulf]

duci,

If you don't like capitalism, may I recommend Cuba or China? All of us will donate money for your plane ticket


Can you see the difference between communism and anti-globalization?

Would you have the federal government forcibly restrict American companies from exporting goods? What about the countries that are importing American goods and services?

It takes two to tango...




One can establish a healthy market of exports without reshaping the very fundamentals of a nation’s culture and economy. ie. raw materials, science, health, automation to a degree, livestock etc.

Then focus on an internal market to satisfy “McDonalds and Levis”. America can maintain its current standard of living without sacrificing too much of its GDP from Globalization. Globalization even now works against the American people as more and more jobs are moved over-seas.
You didn't outright answer the question, but I take it that you would have the federal government limit exports of privately owned american businesses?

[Beowulf]

^word.
I'd like to personally apologize to the world for the export of American 'reality TV'.
That sh*t sucks.

Agreed. Britney is hot though....

[Skaman]

duci,

If you don't like capitalism, may I recommend Cuba or China? All of us will donate money for your plane ticket


Can you see the difference between communism and anti-globalization?

Would you have the federal government forcibly restrict American companies from exporting goods? What about the countries that are importing American goods and services?

It takes two to tango...




One can establish a healthy market of exports without reshaping the very fundamentals of a nation’s culture and economy. ie. raw materials, science, health, automation to a degree, livestock etc.

Then focus on an internal market to satisfy “McDonalds and Levis”. America can maintain its current standard of living without sacrificing too much of its GDP from Globalization. Globalization even now works against the American people as more and more jobs are moved over-seas.
You didn't outright answer the question, but I take it that you would have the federal government limit exports of privately owned american businesses?

Yes, I would. In the best interest of the globe. I know what that sounds like: Communism. Where the state controls the means of production.

[Trigger]

Beowulf wrote:

Agreed. Britney is hot though....
Hot, but not the sharpest knife in the drawer....
hmmm
I guess there's no problem then. :D

[Skaman]

^word.
I'd like to personally apologize to the world for the export of American 'reality TV'.
That sh*t sucks.

Agreed. Britney is hot though....


She is a poor example for susceptible youth, promotes promiscuity, and is a hoar.

But yes, she is very attractive.

Must…..stop…….watching……..toxic

[Trigger]

^word.
I'd like to personally apologize to the world for the export of American 'reality TV'.
That sh*t sucks.

Agreed. Britney is hot though....


She is a poor example for susceptible youth, promotes promiscuity, and is a hoar<whore>.

But yes, she is very attractive.

Must…..stop…….watching……..toxic
Agreed <gasp>

Then again, she's nothing different than Madonna 15 years ago. <ick>

[Kenshin]

^word.
I'd like to personally apologize to the world for the export of American 'reality TV'.
That sh*t sucks.

Agreed. Britney is hot though....


She is a poor example for susceptible youth, promotes promiscuity, and is a hoar<whore>.

But yes, she is very attractive.

Must…..stop…….watching……..toxic
Agreed <gasp>

Then again, she's nothing different than Madonna 15 years ago. <ick>

<drool>..You mean she'll also end up releasing a picture book of herself posing as though performing explicit ****** acts in the ****??

[WARPIG]

duci,

If you don't like capitalism, may I recommend Cuba or China? All of us will donate money for your plane ticket


Can you see the difference between communism and anti-globalization?

Would you have the federal government forcibly restrict American companies from exporting goods? What about the countries that are importing American goods and services?

It takes two to tango...




One can establish a healthy market of exports without reshaping the very fundamentals of a nation’s culture and economy. ie. raw materials, science, health, automation to a degree, livestock etc.

Then focus on an internal market to satisfy “McDonalds and Levis”. America can maintain its current standard of living without sacrificing too much of its GDP from Globalization. Globalization even now works against the American people as more and more jobs are moved over-seas.
You didn't outright answer the question, but I take it that you would have the federal government limit exports of privately owned american businesses?

Yes, I would. In the best interest of the globe. I know what that sounds like: Communism. Where the state controls the means of production.
Free trade on a global scale is the great equalizer of global culture. Look at the auto business for instance. US car makers bent over backwards to try and get the government to keep import competition out of the US market not long ago. But when the consumer realized that they can drive a Toyota twice as long as they can a Dodge.. demand for the rice burners went up. If it hadn't .. we would still be driving armor plated, gas guzzling, wood paneled sedans. Competition is what takes our economy to the next level. The industry had to change it's tune when it realized that Japanese cars weren't the only thing getting popular in the US.. asian culture was becoming more and more popular. From Karate kicking cops, ninja kids, and kung fu cartoons..to sushi bars, chinese take out, and of course, import cars.. the cultural influence of asia had affected change in more ways than most people realize. Mexican, South, and Central American labor is going through a similar progression in the US right now. Not all international culture and capitalist exchanges are positive but on the whole, has a natural equalizing effect on the world. Finland has recently gained a huge growth in international business with Nokia. How many US dollars do you think make it to the Finns? Should we retard the telecomm communications base on political or cultural agenda? Or should we let free trade and supply and demand be the guide for who gets business?
I do think that Dicamus's theory has some relevance. I don't think going as far as controlling commerce but perhaps a global monitoring agency is something to be considered. Sort of like the UN but with their focus on monitoring international commerce. Like the UN, it has it's eyes and ears on the world, has some generally aggreed terms of fair play and etiquette, has a voice in the world of global commerce, but is effectually imputant in enforcing the rules. This way, the people and culture affected can hear and see the issues of commerce and decide for themselves. Maybe this kind of monitoring entity exists already. I don't really know.

[pinkeye]

^word.
I'd like to personally apologize to the world for the export of American 'reality TV'.
That sh*t sucks.

Agreed. Britney is hot though....

i disagree. sure, anyone can be attractive thanks to $5000 haircuts, 3 hours a day gym sessions, and photoshop!!! strip all that away and britney is damn ordinary. she's just a hick from the bayou who was incredibly lucky to scooped up by the entertainment industry. her appeal is artificial. i won't even comment on her flagrant lack of talent...

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Thats a funny picture...it would've been put on my desktop if it wasnt pink rofl

[Beowulf]

^word.
I'd like to personally apologize to the world for the export of American 'reality TV'.
That sh*t sucks.

Agreed. Britney is hot though....

i disagree. sure, anyone can be attractive thanks to $5000 haircuts, 3 hours a day gym sessions, and photoshop!!! strip all that away and britney is damn ordinary. she's just a hick from the bayou who was incredibly lucky to scooped up by the entertainment industry. her appeal is artificial. i won't even comment on her flagrant lack of talent...

yeah but she's hot.

[WARPIG]

^word.
I'd like to personally apologize to the world for the export of American 'reality TV'.
That sh*t sucks.

Agreed. Britney is hot though....

i disagree. sure, anyone can be attractive thanks to $5000 haircuts, 3 hours a day gym sessions, and photoshop!!! strip all that away and britney is damn ordinary. she's just a hick from the bayou who was incredibly lucky to scooped up by the entertainment industry. her appeal is artificial. i won't even comment on her flagrant lack of talent...
Talent?? you mean besides shaking her ****s? I suppose you don't like her personality either.
Most of the dirty thoughts that come to my mind aren't sparked by her haircut, how long she works out in the gym, how doctored her photos are, or where she comes from. You think I leave the sound on when I surf onto one of her videos? Not likely. Now that I think of it.. the fact that she is a redneck almost makes me like her more. Stupid blondes with nice ****s and low self esteem seem to do it for me.
This may come as a shock but I don't think I am the only person that doesn't care how Britney go popular.. and I will go even further and say that not too many people would care if her ****s were fake, her ass was lypo'd, and she had a really crappy personality. We just like the eye candy.

[pinkeye]

Free trade on a global scale is the great equalizer of global culture.

you seem to be confusing culture witth economics. cultural imperialism, intended or not, is a serious threat. few indigenous cultures have the resources to compete with western entertainment and products which somehow are construed to constitute "culture". the current western cultural paradigm is perverse, but i digress (this view is obviously polemical). if a foreign culture assumes hegemonic proportions, nepalese culture, for example, may find itself at a serious disadvantage vis-a-baywatch and 50 cent for various and obvious reasons.

i would point out that american cultural imperialism is a somewhat misguided concept, for big corporations are transnational, i.e., nike is not really american nor is coca-cola. in other words, the finger should probably not be pointed at americans.




Look at the auto business for instance. US car makers bent over backwards to try and get the government to keep import competition out of the US market not long ago. But when the consumer realized that they can drive a Toyota twice as long as they can a Dodge.. demand for the rice burners went up. If it hadn't .. we would still be driving armor plated, gas guzzling, wood paneled sedans.


ummm, we still drive gas guzzling, armour plated monstrosities. they are called sport utility vehicles.



Competition is what takes our economy to the next level.

granted, but at what cost? healthy competition is sustainable economically, socially and environmentally. the current model of capitalism is not sustainable and is morally and ethically repugnant.


The industry had to change it's tune when it realized that Japanese cars weren't the only thing getting popular in the US.. asian culture was becoming more and more popular. From Karate kicking cops, ninja kids, and kung fu cartoons..to sushi bars, chinese take out, and of course, import cars.. the cultural influence of asia had affected change in more ways than most people realize.

thank the powers that be for asian influence!! however, many of the "influences" you have listed are more appropriately defined as trends in popular culture whose 15 minutes of fame are just about up.



Mexican, South, and Central American labor is going through a similar progression in the US right now. Not all international culture and capitalist exchanges are positive but on the whole, has a natural equalizing effect on the world.

this is a difficult issue to address. the migration of corporate capital and manufacturing assets does provide very limited positive opportunities for growth in honduras, for example: the average wages are terribly low and working conditions are atrocious; the corporations exploiting the cheap labour and lax regulations of developing countries do not re-invest in the communities, thus there is very little tangible economic development; and corporations often have a rather negative impact on the social, economic, and political development of said countries. there is ample documentation to support all of these claims.


Finland has recently gained a huge growth in international business with Nokia. How many US dollars do you think make it to the Finns? Should we retard the telecomm communications base on political or cultural agenda? Or should we let free trade and supply and demand be the guide for who gets business?

there has to be a balance of both. corporate interests and rampant consumerism cannot dictate policy. if you lose your culture, you lose your identity. you are thus just a consumer, a faceless peon of the corporation.


I do think that Dicamus's theory has some relevance. I don't think going as far as controlling commerce but perhaps a global monitoring agency is something to be considered. Sort of like the UN but with their focus on monitoring international commerce. Like the UN, it has it's eyes and ears on the world, has some generally aggreed terms of fair play and etiquette, has a voice in the world of global commerce, but is effectually imputant in enforcing the rules. This way, the people and culture affected can hear and see the issues of commerce and decide for themselves. Maybe this kind of monitoring entity exists already. I don't really know.[/quote]








there are various international organisations who do monitor global commerce: the world bank, the imf. add the many different treaties and agreements and there is effectively a comprehensive monitoring system.

[WARPIG]

Without dragging more quotes in to bogg down this hi jacked thread.. international commerce and culture cannot be seperated. The popularity of a product (when it is linked to a culture) is directly related to the popularity of that culture. Business on a local or global scale is perverse and unforgiving. That is the nature that I was talking about in business. Some countries are culurally, idustrially, resource, or politically advantaged or disadvantaged. The culture of the industry or commerce, and the culture of the market is what allows global trade. When governments control what is allowed, who is allowed, and how much is allowed to be traded, sold, etc... then conflicts tend to pop up. Not all wars and conflicts happen becuase of dictatorships, WMD, or terrorism. Heck, the US has been accused of going to war over oil.

I think we are disagreeing on the details my friend..but we both agree that trade is not something to be controlled by governments. Whether one countries business practices are more perverse than anothers.. is really not an issue. Global companies crash and burn on a regular basis because of poor ethics. Not just US businesses. The global market has little tolerance for that sort of thing.

[memphiz]

^word.
I'd like to personally apologize to the world for the export of American 'reality TV'.
That sh*t sucks.

Agreed. Britney is hot though....

i disagree. sure, anyone can be attractive thanks to $5000 haircuts, 3 hours a day gym sessions, and photoshop!!! strip all that away and britney is damn ordinary. she's just a hick from the bayou who was incredibly lucky to scooped up by the entertainment industry. her appeal is artificial. i won't even comment on her flagrant lack of talent...

yeah but she's hot.
word :D

[Sir Zach of R.]

Me and my friends on Britney:

Zach: What a whore.

Ben: Yea, but she's hot.

Zach: Christina is a whore too.

Ben: Yea, but she's hot.

Zach: Madonna......what a b!tch.

Ben: Yea, what a b!tch.

rofl

[the_spec]

May I add something to the "american products in the world" discussion? I don't think it's so much about what the customer wants, but about money and what he is made believe to want. Through extensive advertising and huge investments in marketing, the customer doesn't have a chance to escape the attractiveness of american products. Therefor, if you put a big franchise next to a local business, the local business will eventually close down, because of lack of customers.

I like Britney too, still waiting for that Playboy shoot though.

[pinkeye]

i guess my taste in eye candy is a little more sophisticated because i do not find britney attractive; southern white trash just doesnt do it for me.

[Argyll]

Well if it was a choice of a night of passion with Britney or a night of Passion with my wife,I'd go down to the boozer and get full of it,then come home coz every bird looks like Britney when I'm bloto!! ;)

[Trigger]

I want what Argyll's drinkin'....uh, make mine a double. :D

[cut]

Well if it was a choice of a night of passion with Britney or a night of Passion with my wife,I'd go down to the boozer and get full of it,then come home coz every bird looks like Britney when I'm bloto!! ;)


alcohol is a wonderful thing