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Dennis G
03-14-2004, 03:30 PM
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Russia's Putin wins landslide reelection
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MOSCOW (AFP) - Russian President Vladimir Putin (news - web sites) stormed to a crushing reelection victory, getting 69 percent of the vote in the nation's third post-Soviet presidential election, according to exit polls.


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The polls released immediately after the last polling stations of Russia's 11 time zones closed in the Baltic enclave of Kaliningrad showed Putin getting 69 percent with Communist Party candidate Nikolai Kharitonov a distant second with 12 percent.


In third place was the vote "against all," with 5.7 percent of voters declaring their dissatisfaction with all six candidates, said the polls, released on state-controlled television channels.


Fears that voter turnout would not reach the crucial 50-percent mark needed to make the poll valid melted away, with 61.18 percent of voters having cast their ballots by 1600 GMT.


Although five people challenged Putin for the presidency, none had a serious chance of beating the overwhelmingly popular leader who boasted approval ratings of 80 percent months before the poll.


Putin won despite having made just two direct addresses to voters during the month-long official campaign -- a 30-minute speech on the first day of campaigning and a call for Russians to perform their civic duty two days before the poll.


"It is useless to engage in pre-election tricks for a person in my position," the 51-year-old said in televised comments after voting with his wife Lyudmila in southwestern Moscow. "I think I should have made (my positions) clear during the past four years."


In the end, Putin did not need to campaign, as state-controlled national television records his daily activities on its nightly news broadcasts.


Washington slammed the media bias on Sunday.


"We are concerned about the way this election is being held," US Secretary of State Colin Powell (news - web sites) told the Fox News Sunday program.


"Russians have to understand that to have full democracy of the kind the international community will recognize, you've got to let candidates have all access to the media that the president has," Powell said.


Irina Khakamada, the only liberal challenger in the race, echoed such concerns as she warned of a "threat of the return to Soviet bureaucracy" under Putin as she cast her ballot in Moscow.


"We are being told that democracy is a disaster and a tragedy and that authoritarianism can feed the entire world," she said.


But voters in Moscow discounted such sentiment.


"To rule this country you need a huge amount of power, you need to use a strong hand. Stalin wielded this power by killing millions but Putin does it in a democratic way," said Natalya, a pensioner.


Putin is set to begin a second term with power reminiscent of the omnipotence of Soviet leaders -- a pro-Kremlin party controls two-thirds of parliament, state-controlled media offer obsequious coverage and former secret service colleagues are in top posts.


But the former KGB agent with steely blue eyes is genuinely popular among Russians, half of whom think that the country "always needs a strong hand," while only one-fifth oppose authoritarian power, according to a recent poll by Romir Monitoring.


"A lot of Russians want a repressive and authoritarian state," said Mark Urnov, an analyst. "They think that people must be afraid of the state in order to respect it."

Putin's popularity is reinforced by the revving economy, which grew 7.3 percent in 2003, and a booming stock market.

But many warn that with so much power, the former spy will turn Russia increasingly to its Soviet roots during his second term, while at the same time restructuring the economy to a Western model in a bid to attract foreign investment.

"In domestic policy, there will be a continuation of authoritarian policy," said Olga Kryshtanovskaya, a respected analyst. "But Putin is oriented to the West... he wants foreign investment into the economy."

Some 340 observers from the Organization of Security and Cooperation in Europe, who called December's legislative elections "free but not fair", monitored Sunday's vote.

Putin won his first term on March 26, 2000 with 52.5 percent of the vote on a turnout of 68.86 percent.

RomanS
03-14-2004, 04:25 PM
CONGRATS TO VLADIMIR PUTIN !

Russian Texan
03-14-2004, 04:28 PM
Боже Царя храни, сильной Державы... :)

UkrainianAmerican
03-14-2004, 04:40 PM
Боже Царя храни, сильной Державы... :)
WEll at least the "socialist" party didnt win like they won in Spain because of the bombing.
Sheesh!

Javehn
03-14-2004, 04:43 PM
Thought about get to ellection (still have Russki citizenship) . But , to drive far away .... Anyways , Putin still won , so why bother .

mustamato
03-14-2004, 04:49 PM
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UkrainianAmerican
03-14-2004, 05:00 PM
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LOL!
Nice cartoon!

Flagg
03-14-2004, 05:23 PM
I reckon Putin is a good choice for leader at this stage for Russia.

The economy has grown at quite a high rate during his first term...and is likely to continue doing well.

I'm just surprised that Putin's team found it necessary to improve their chances of winning by hampering the other candidates, when he was a already a shoe-in for winning.....strange :|

My only concern is that political,economic, and military ties with western nations improve further.

M_S
03-14-2004, 05:38 PM
Putin was a former KGB guy, were you not supposed to be a true communist to a job in the KGB?

Putin is planning on USSR-2

Flagg
03-14-2004, 06:03 PM
Putin was a former KGB guy, were you not supposed to be a true communist to a job in the KGB?

I believe they had to be members of the Communist Party....

But I also believe that members of the KGB, like Putin, who had the opportunity to study and experience the West understood they were the glue holding together a failing system...and were some of the first to embrace capitalism by buying up former state assets at firesale prices.

I don't think anyone's Communist Party membership should be viewed as an impediment to participating in the future of Russia.

You would be wrong if you thought Communist Party membership meant everyone was a die-hard communist......think of it as a VIP membership.....being a member of the Communist Party opened doors and was a necessary step in a number of career fields.


Putin is planning on USSR-2

Is this just your opinion...or do you have information we are not privy too that you base this statement on?

In my opinion, the LAST thing Putin wants is to be bogged down and distracted by distant provinces/nations, forming USSR-2 as you call it, that don't share a common culture/nationality to ethnic Russians.

Russia has way too many future opportunities, as well as a number of challenges, to bother wasting time and resources in empire building.

IsdatU
03-14-2004, 06:23 PM
I think he will be good for Russia.

Dennis G
03-14-2004, 07:17 PM
I don’t necessarily agree with this I just found it when searching for info on Putin and thought that I post it.

http://www.globecartoon.com/chapp/images/13.gif

RomanS
03-14-2004, 07:21 PM
I don’t necessarily agree with this I just found it when searching for info on Putin and thought that I post it.

http://www.globecartoon.com/chapp/images/13.gif

LOOL

good one

AK-Lover
03-14-2004, 08:18 PM
Screw "colon" Powell rofl ! He is just an old ****ing propaganda machine! :bash:

SeanAshi
03-14-2004, 08:26 PM
Wonder what the Chechens are thinking about Putin being re-elected ;)

AK-Lover
03-14-2004, 08:44 PM
not nice things that's for sure! ;)

Russian Texan
03-14-2004, 09:50 PM
Wonder what the Chechens are thinking about Putin being re-elected ;)

You'd be surprised but Chechnya had the highest voter turnout - 92,8% :)
They are just tired of shootings, bombings and uncertainty.
Chechens want their kids to get education and have access to civilization: healthcare, electricity, plumbing, etc..

For russians Putin means stability, security and steady economic growth.


I'm just surprised that Putin's team found it necessary to improve their chances of winning by hampering the other candidates, when he was a already a shoe-in for winning.....strange

They never did, whatever you have heard or read was typical election "mud slinging" from his opponents.
Of course he got more TV air time - he is the President therefore his name will be mentioned in every news cast.
The thing is that most of the "free media" belongs to Mr. Berezovski (citizen of the GB nowadays because he had to flee Russia due to being wanted there for various crimes). Anyhow, several days ago I have read a very interesting interview with one of his ex team members. That guy says that Berezovski is obsessed with power, money and hatered for Putin.
If you remember, about a month ago one of the candidates disappeared, his name was Rybkin and interviewed guy stated that Berezovskij's idea was to kill him and present it like it was done by FSB, just like the appartment buildings explosions in order to start 2nd Chechen war, to ensure Putin's victory.
Here is the article, put in a translator if you are interested
http://www.kp.ru/daily/23234/27257/

I am sure that in the comming days there will be couple of sore loosers making accusations and screaming "bloody murder", "the end of democracy", etc. but it doesn't matter - Putin has gotten 70+%....

usa320
03-14-2004, 10:08 PM
Screw "colon" Powell ! He is just an old f*** propaganda machine!

Wtf did that have to do with putins re-election???

Moron. Colon Powell is one of the finest Generals there ever was.

cut
03-14-2004, 11:17 PM
Screw "colon" Powell ! He is just an old f*** propaganda machine!

Wtf did that have to do with putins re-election???

Moron. Colon Powell is one of the finest Generals there ever was.

spell his name right then, I don't think to kindly of being called a colon

Elmo
03-15-2004, 07:43 AM
I am sure that in the comming days there will be couple of sore loosers making accusations and screaming "bloody murder", "the end of democracy", etc. but it doesn't matter - Putin has gotten 70+%....

Was there democracy at some point? Division of power? Access to public arena?

Negative.

Russia never was democratic and probably never will be. Perhaps it suits them just fine, who is anyone to argue about that. But please don't talk about
democracy and Putin in the same sentence.

regards,

A Sore Looser

Chasseur_Alpin
03-15-2004, 08:16 AM
i think it's good for Russia who need some stab.

http://ybelov.narod.ru/images/putins.jpg

Argo AdAm
03-15-2004, 08:18 AM
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Kingpin
03-15-2004, 09:35 AM
You forgot one thing - all those art was created in Russia and by Russians. First pic also winner of official satire contest. How can you blame Putin for destroying democracy? :)

Russian Texan
03-15-2004, 10:02 AM
http://www.grani.ru/images/103.jpg

http://www.grani.ru/images/156.jpg



I LOVE IT rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl

Please post some more :lol:

Argo AdAm
03-15-2004, 11:33 AM
Please post some more :lol:
More:
Part 1 - http://grani.ru/Politics/Russia/Election/m.58094.html
Part 2 - http://grani.ru/Politics/Russia/Election/m.58317.html
Part 3 - http://grani.ru/Politics/m.58584.html
Part 4 - http://grani.ru/Politics/Russia/Election/m.58868.html
http://www.grani.ru/images/74.jpg
http://www.grani.ru/images/34.jpg


You forgot one thing - all those art was created in Russia and by Russians. First pic also winner of official satire contest. How can you blame Putin for destroying democracy? :)Hmm... And what can I say? :roll: