Video of Latinos protest

[Zarathustra]

With a startling narration...

http://www.idawg.com/aztlan.wmv

[boulderbum]

I like all the accusations Hispanics are making of states like Texas being their "homeland" that was taken over by whites. Despite the fact that A - Texas revolted because when it was settled it was predominantly white settlers ruled by an oppresive Mexican government, and B - What, Spaniards are native to Mexico? That's new to me, I always thought Spaniards violently took over the area by slaughtering millions of natives.
Obviously the history books must be wrong.

[GeraldDuval]

nonsense! The Conquistadors and aztecs exchanged gummi bears, chocolates and backrubs...

[I'mOnlyHalfPolish]

nonsense! The Conquistadors and aztecs exchanged gummi bears, chocolates and backrubs...

haha! 1234

[Hyllus]

Texas revolted because when it was settled it was predominantly white settlers ruled by an oppresive Mexican government,
Yeah sure ... It was the same "oppresive Mexican government" that let American settlers inside THEIR territory and gave them FREE land, in return of them practicing Catholicism. But you know Americans started the Mexican War and won it, and you know who gets to write the history after the war, right? The recognition of the Republic of Texas was plain BS, totally wrong and illegitimate. You can say all you want, but what's true is true and Texas was part of Mexico, which we stole. Yep, STOLE.

[jd123]

Yeah sure ... It was the same "oppresive Mexican government" that let American settlers inside THEIR territory and gave them FREE land, in return of them practicing Catholicism. But you know Americans started the Mexican War and won it, and you know who gets to write the history after the war, right? The recognition of the Republic of Texas was plain BS, totally wrong and illegitimate. You can say all you want, but what's true is true and Texas was part of Mexico, which we stole. Yep, STOLE.
By your logic... all the lands belong to the native. And Mexico stole the land from the Aztec. So is canada, hell, even the native are not native, they migrated from Asia....

[Hyllus]

What logic are you talking about? I can clearly see you are the one lacking some logic. This has nothing to do with Aztecs. When a country is independent (Mexico in this case) and they tell you "hey you want land? Come to my country. I'll give it to you for free, but you have to conver to catholicism" OK so you go there get the FREE land and you are considered a Mexican citizen. So since the land is free you ask some of your old friend to come and settle with you. So they come do the same thing. Ooops .. but something is missing here in Mexico they say. They don't have slavery and it's illegal here unlike in our "democtratic country" So you go against the Mexican laws and bring slaves in there, and then you want more and more and start no giving a sh*t about Mexican law. So let's rewind a bit. You got the land for FREE and now you are stabbing in their back the same people you got the land from. Yeah good logics there guys.

[I'mOnlyHalfPolish]

um so by your logic, theyre stealing from us illegally as well, cuz its part of our country and we invited them here for work, not to stay...hhhmmm i think you should calm down there hyllus. also your history is a bit off, they invited white euro's there to take care of the dirty business of taming the land and to buffer their smaller settlements from the natives, and NO they never asked for the Texians to become catholic, thats nonsense.

and if its "all stolen" and we should give it back, where are you and i supposed to go live...hhmmm...dont know now do ya? im not 100% of any european ethnicity, where the hell am i supposed to go live? haha why am i even arguing with you, your logic is hilarious!

be either proud to be an American or shut the f**k up.

[GAFES]

I like all the accusations Hispanics are making of states like Texas being their "homeland" that was taken over by whites. Despite the fact that A - Texas revolted because when it was settled it was predominantly white settlers ruled by an oppresive Mexican government, and B - What, Spaniards are native to Mexico? That's new to me, I always thought Spaniards violently took over the area by slaughtering millions of natives.
Obviously the history books must be wrong.

I think you should go back to college and take the world history course. For your information, the mexican governmet of those days gave permission to the anglo immigrants to live in our territory, however some smart ass had the wonderful idea of taking over. The large territory became invaded by the massive anglo immigrants and due to the lack of troops the mexican government couldn't do anything. Some say the US government of those days was the one who planned it. Even a great thinker of south america predicted this.

[GAFES]

Yeah sure ... It was the same "oppresive Mexican government" that let American settlers inside THEIR territory and gave them FREE land, in return of them practicing Catholicism. But you know Americans started the Mexican War and won it, and you know who gets to write the history after the war, right? The recognition of the Republic of Texas was plain BS, totally wrong and illegitimate. You can say all you want, but what's true is true and Texas was part of Mexico, which we stole. Yep, STOLE.

Of course this is so embarrasing for the United states government that they don't even want to talk about it.

[Hyllus]

I think you should go back to college and take the world history course. For your information, the mexican governmet of those days gave permission to the anglo immigrants to live in our territory, however some smart ass had the wonderful idea of taking over. The large territory became invaded by the massive anglo immigrants and due to the lack of troops the mexican government couldn't do anything. Some say the US government of those days was the one who planned it. Even a great thinker of south america predicted this.
X2 ... They teach it in every history class, but it seems that American students don't pay much attention to it...


cuz its part of our country and we invited them here for work, not to stay...
Smartass ... If Americans didn't go around stealing land from independent countries in the first place then all this wouldn't be happening.



and NO they never asked for the Texians to become catholic, thats nonsense.

LOL and I am the one who is a "bit off in the history"... You should go back to college too.


and if its "all stolen" and we should give it back, where are you and i supposed to go live...hhmmm...dont know now do ya? im not 100% of any european ethnicity, where the hell am i supposed to go live? haha why am i even arguing with you, your logic is hilarious!

Listen man. What part of INVADING AN INDEPENDENT COUNTRY don't you understand?



be either proud to be an American or shut the f**k up.


Hmm looks like some Americans don't believe in the First Amendment, do they? Need some help? Here

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I know truth hurts. Sad!

[I'mOnlyHalfPolish]

um, im from texas dumbass, so ive taken texas history throughout grade school into college...what college do you go too or did you go too?

and if you believe so strongly about this hyllus, you can start by returning to the land of your forefathers.

[Hyllus]

um, im from texas dumbass
You should've told me this from the beginning man. I've heard what they teach you down there. One of my professors taught there for two years and he said that he was amazed at the stuff they put in your head. LOL and we people up here ask why Dubbya is so retarded. Don't worry man. As long as you're from Texas ... I'll keep out...

I do go to the land of my forefathers, but right now I'm too busy "stealing" American jobs. You guys in Texas should know how it works.

[I'mOnlyHalfPolish]

ok 1234567

[StukaJr]

Hmmm, I can't help but draw parallels with how Chechnya got started - the only thing missing is an economical collapse and/or lack of action from the federal government. You have your minority calling for struggle against co-existence, two century old land claims, calls for a nation based purely on national pride with no economic basis. I give the nation of Azlan or whatever six months before it turns on its own citizens when it's done plundering what's left.

Plight of illegal immigrants begins with the corrupt Mexican government, law enforcement and unchecked organized crime - begin fixing problems at the root, instead of calling for your sh1t to spread. When you septic tanks burst - don't ask your neighbor to take down the fence but fix it!

Fortunately, a vast percentage of 1st Gen immigrants tend to naturalize rather well - 2nd Gen immigrants have elementary skills in the Spanish and hardly accepted as anything but foreigners in the countries where they are from. Simple number of people with Latin heritage does not represent a number of Latinos running around with Mexican flags on the day to day basis. The unity between Latinos in the US is non-existent - in reality.

I can't see the positive effects of open border with Mexicans, Mexicans getting access into the US at the cost of stemming the immigration from other countries or Mexicans biting off the "redneck's" hand that feeds... Will Mexican California be a safer, more democratic, more prosperous place to live? Been to Mexico, been to Mexican Ghettos in LA - see nothing to be proud of... Kind of like a 3 year old being proud of his poopie.

Immigrants come into US because their homes countries are a mess - I don't understand the minority of Latin immigrants bent on destroying the almost perfect society.

[Ea$y-8]

If they dislike the US and it's laws so much they should return to their country of orgin ASAP.

[Spartan XV]

(Rant Start)

I have no problem with Latinos or weather they come here to work or not. My father owns a construction buisness, and on the side we rehab houses. For help he hired these two Mexicans (yes, they are from Mexico), and we pay them well (they make more on the weekends with us then they do all week). I have the utmost repect for these men, they came to a land that hate them for stealing jobs, but if we went out and tried to find to White or Black men to help us, they wouldnt do itm or would but would steal or charge an astronomical amount. Im tired of the argument "they steal our jobs", SO WHAT they get out and do sh*t jobs to make some money, maybe the people who complain should take a cue from them.

However, I think this Latio America crap is pure bullsh*t. I dotn care if we took this land from you, we obviosly wanted it more, and look what weve done to it, turned it into the greatest nation in the world, while you still pissing a moaing about us stealing it. You either like it or you dont. You want a Spanish nation anthem, GO HOME, if its so great then why dont you just GO BACK.

(Rant Over)

[Hyllus]

I have the utmost repect for these men, they came to a land that hate them for stealing jobs, but if we went out and tried to find to White or Black men to help us, they wouldnt do itm or would but would steal or charge an astronomical amount. Im tired of the argument "they steal our jobs", SO WHAT they get out and do sh*t jobs to make some money, maybe the people who complain should take a cue from them.
I totally agree with you on this part.



I dotn care if we took this land from you, we obviosly wanted it more,

Hmmmm iteresting, but really retarded. How would you like another country taking over the state where you live? This is what the founding fathers hated. Ideas and people like you, who don't care about anything else, except their well-being. Invading nations without reasons is not what this country stood for, from the time when it was created in 1776. The ideas was completely different. With all this invasion of Iraq crap, I can imagine Thomas Jefferson rolling inside his grave. Ah... it's useless ... I mean look who our president is...

[GAFES]

Hmmm, I can't help but draw parallels with how Chechnya got started - the only thing missing is an economical collapse and/or lack of action from the federal government. You have your minority calling for struggle against co-existence, two century old land claims, calls for a nation based purely on national pride with no economic basis. I give the nation of Azlan or whatever six months before it turns on its own citizens when it's done plundering what's left.

Plight of illegal immigrants begins with the corrupt Mexican government, law enforcement and unchecked organized crime - begin fixing problems at the root, instead of calling for your sh1t to spread. When you septic tanks burst - don't ask your neighbor to take down the fence but fix it!

Fortunately, a vast percentage of 1st Gen immigrants tend to naturalize rather well - 2nd Gen immigrants have elementary skills in the Spanish and hardly accepted as anything but foreigners in the countries where they are from. Simple number of people with Latin heritage does not represent a number of Latinos running around with Mexican flags on the day to day basis. The unity between Latinos in the US is non-existent - in reality.

I can't see the positive effects of open border with Mexicans, Mexicans getting access into the US at the cost of stemming the immigration from other countries or Mexicans biting off the "redneck's" hand that feeds... Will Mexican California be a safer, more democratic, more prosperous place to live? Been to Mexico, been to Mexican Ghettos in LA - see nothing to be proud of... Kind of like a 3 year old being proud of his poopie.

Immigrants come into US because their homes countries are a mess - I don't understand the minority of Latin immigrants bent on destroying the almost perfect society.


This is pure ignorance, as you say, Mexicans are causing the US to collapse, probably that's why California is one of the richest states in the USA.

Put your white dress back on and go burn more crosses.

[josh10524]

We stole the land? OK. Stealing is wrong. You want to live here? Why? it's better under us than under the people we stole it from? How about we give it back? What's that? You wouldn't want to live here if it was part of Mexico? Then STFU about us stealing it.

Morality is independent from motivation. Don't associate yourself with a moral cause if you can't back it up. Thats what the migrant labor here in LA is doing, and that's what makes me angry. Feel free to try to argue against that.

[Hyllus]

We stole the land? OK. Stealing is wrong. You want to live here? Why? it's better under us than under the people we stole it from? How about we give it back? What's that? You wouldn't want to live here if it was part of Mexico? Then STFU about us stealing it.

Dude. How old are you? 14? Why am I bothering talking to brainless people who don't know wtf I'm talking about. Go learn some history, then READ my posts and then come talk to me.

[StukaJr]

This is pure ignorance, as you say , Mexicans are causing the US to collapse, probably that's why California is one of the richest states in the USA.

Put your white dress back on and go burn more crosses.

^^ I'm a 1st Gen Immigrant, you dimwit! And don't quote me like I've said something - when I didn't. I was simply posting my comments to what is said in the video - nothing else. The nationals (majority of whom could be Mexicans or not) depicted in the video have no common sense nor their intentions will bear good results for the common good of the people living and working in the US, citizens or not. Mobs are dangerous and their combined IQ is often lower than of the rocks they throw - the video portrays such a mob.

30% of my co-workers are in the US on work visas - don't quite understand why Mexicans can't do the same... Everybody knows to go to US Consulate to gain access into the US, yet I have to dodge your countrymen dashing across the Highway... You want to dish out stereotypes - you won't get far... I'll pay your proud countryman "waiting for the bus" to make a cross, douse it in gasoline and burn it - I don't even have to bother... And I don't wear white until the Labor Day and after Memorial Day - that's just poor fashion sense :D

[Spartan XV]

I totally agree with you on this part.


Hmmmm iteresting, but really retarded. How would you like another country taking over the state where you live? This is what the founding fathers hated. Ideas and people like you, who don't care about anything else, except their well-being. Invading nations without reasons is not what this country stood for, from the time when it was created in 1776. The ideas was completely different. With all this invasion of Iraq crap, I can imagine Thomas Jefferson rolling inside his grave. Ah... it's useless ... I mean look who our president is...

Excuse me, but how do yuo know what the founding fathers liked/disliked? Were you there to personally have a chat with them? And dont give me that "you read it in a book" becasue thats bullsh*t, unless it was written by Franklin himself.

So your telling me that we founded a nation based on not invading nations, in an invaded nation. You seem like a smart person but your rational doesnt make sense. I see how that might make sense, being that at that time Britian was expanding, but Im pretty sure that MOST people came to this country for freedom from opression, not freedom from the mind of people like myself; who, according to you, "dont care about anyone else".

[MARINO]

I like all the accusations Hispanics are making of states like Texas being their "homeland" that was taken over by whites. Despite the fact that A - Texas revolted because when it was settled it was predominantly white settlers ruled by an oppresive Mexican government, and B - What, Spaniards are native to Mexico? That's new to me, I always thought Spaniards violently took over the area by slaughtering millions of natives.
Obviously the history books must be wrong.

Yes they are wrong, just come here, you will see we don't look like them. Why because they are Indians, or indians mixed with criollos( Spaniards who were born there).
many of them died from diseases we brought there( as you did with the north american indians). You always talk about genocide wtf that's BS.

[josh10524]

Hyllus - Please provide a factual argument in your response. Thank you.

[StukaJr]

Hmmmm iteresting, but really retarded.

Retarded things are the most interesting - that's why Mencia got his own TV show.



How would you like another country taking over the state where you live? This is what the founding fathers hated.


Something in the works of the Founding Fathers about not fighting oppresive regimes and defending one's rights? I think something got lost in translation.



Ideas and people like you, who don't care about anything else, except their well-being.


Are you proposing we all begin caring about our worst-being to better ourselves?



Invading nations without reasons is not what this country stood for, from the time when it was created in 1776.


If that was true - there wouldn't be Mexico now, when considering the outcome of the War between the US and Mexico... Actually, using your logic, US States would include Germany, France, Italy, Japan (and the list goes on). The Mexico's land losses were mild when you had US troops in the Capital - seeing how the remaining territory of Mexico are treated, I say it's for the best the California is US state...



The ideas was completely different. With all this invasion of Iraq crap, I can imagine Thomas Jefferson rolling inside his grave.


Iraq was a cradle of Democracy in your eyes?



Ah... it's useless ... I mean look who our president is...

Now you are claiming to be an American? I thought you were just here stealing jobs?

[I'mOnlyHalfPolish]

Retarded things are the most interesting - that's why Mencia got his own TV show.



Something in the works of the Founding Fathers about not fighting oppresive regimes and defending one's rights? I think something got lost in translation.



Are you proposing we all begin caring about our worst-being to better ourselves?



If that was true - there wouldn't be Mexico now, when considering the outcome of the War between the US and Mexico... Actually, using your logic, US States would include Germany, France, Italy, Japan (and the list goes on). The Mexico's land losses were mild when you had US troops in the Capital - seeing how the remaining territory of Mexico are treated, I say it's for the best the California is US state...



Iraq was a cradle of Democracy in your eyes?



Now you are claiming to be an American? I thought you were just here stealing jobs?

zing, wow stukajr, i love this guy...in a completely plutonic hetero way...

[Hyllus]

Excuse me, but how do yuo know what the founding fathers liked/disliked? Were you there to personally have a chat with them? And dont give me that "you read it in a book" becasue thats bullsh*t, unless it was written by Franklin himself.

So your telling me that we founded a nation based on not invading nations, in an invaded nation. You seem like a smart person but your rational doesnt make sense. I see how that might make sense, being that at that time Britian was expanding, but Im pretty sure that MOST people came to this country for freedom from opression, not freedom from the mind of people like myself; who, according to you, "dont care about anyone else".
You don't need to have a chat with somebody to find out what their ideas are. This country was created by invasion and genocide. Yes that's true, but the founding fathers were agaisnt it. They wanted everybody to live in peace and never do what the British did (opress other people or their own people)


Something in the works of the Founding Fathers about not fighting oppresive regimes and defending one's rights?
Yeah sure... opressive regimes where? 3000 miles away? I don't think so.


Are you proposing we all begin caring about our worst-being to better ourselves?
No, but Im saying not to hurt somebody else in the first place.


US States would include Germany, France, Italy, Japan (and the list goes on). The Mexico's land losses were mild when you had US troops in the Capital - seeing how the remaining territory of Mexico are treated, I say it's for the best the California is US state...
Oh great... so now the Mexicans should thank us for stealing their land and not stealing the whole thing wow ... great ... just great...



Iraq was a cradle of Democracy in your eyes?

Nobody said it... But tell me the reason why Bush sent Americans into Iraq... Hmmm wait let me think a bit ... Was it WMDs? ... oh yes it was ... Where are they now? Did we find them? Did the CIA guys that said they are there find them? hmmm I don't think soo.... Guess why? They were never there .... Then it came the "terrorist" justification which by going to Iraq we created a lot more than there were before the war... The "democracy" justification came when they couldn't make up something new, so they said oh "let's restore democracy" yeah great.


Now you are claiming to be an American?
Yes, I am American. I have double-citizenship so I am American infact.


I thought you were just here stealing jobs?
Russians have no sense of humor at all ... It was a joke man ... Chill out ... You know somebody once told me that, and I was really pissed off. You know what kind of people say that? It's the people that cannot improve themselves in any way and they blame people who were not born in this country, but who are way smarter, way more qualified and hardworking then them. I know ... It happens ... There's nothing I can do about it ...

[Spartan XV]

You don't need to have a chat with somebody to find out what their ideas are. This country was created by invasion and genocide. Yes that's true, but the founding fathers were agaisnt it. They wanted everybody to live in peace and never do what the British did (opress other people or their own people)


Im sorry, I respect your opinion, but that is the dumbest thing I have ever heard.

[StukaJr]

You don't need to have a chat with somebody to find out what their ideas are.

Oh, really?



This country was created by invasion and genocide. Yes that's true, but the founding fathers were agaisnt it. They wanted everybody to live in peace and never do what the British did (opress other people or their own people)


And that's why Native Americans and Native Indian Tribes were given the rights to vote, own property and land - like the settlers, by the "Founding Fathers". That's why Slavery was abolished and african slaves were set free and given land - "By the Founding Fathers". That's why serfdom was abolished - by the "Founding Fathers! (Sarcasm Off). Do you begin to realize how lost you are in your own ramblings or should I go on?

These "Founding Fathers" certainly sound like a great bunch of chaps - do tell me more stories how great they were... I can't help but be sarcastic about this, but how many of the "Founding Fathers" personally OWNED SLAVES?



Yeah sure... opressive regimes where? 3000 miles away? I don't think so.


Oppressive regimes have no gegraphical restrictions - you may not think so all you want. Taliban managed to strike at the US from that very distance.



Oh great... so now the Mexicans should thank us for stealing their land and not stealing the whole thing wow ... great ... just great...


Mexicans want to come to American California - IF California was Mexican, then they'd want to come to American Oregon, Washington etc... Mexico has a poor track record of keeping its citizens happy, protecting freedoms, enforcing its laws or making the land prosper - so yes, I think California is better off as a State of the US then a far northern province of Mexico. That statement applies to the land and its people.



Nobody said it... But tell me the reason why Bush sent Americans into Iraq... Hmmm wait let me think a bit ... Was it WMDs? ... oh yes it was ... Where are they now? Did we find them? Did the CIA guys that said they are there find them? hmmm I don't think soo.... Guess why? They were never there .... Then it came the "terrorist" justification which by going to Iraq we created a lot more than there were before the war... The "democracy" justification came when they couldn't make up something new, so they said oh "let's restore democracy" yeah great.


Having the hind sight now - Invassion and occupation of Iraq has its shortcomings. However, I won't respond to your rant as you are just repeating the media - Political Climate and Foreign Relations are not as naive as your grasp of them.



Yes, I am American. I have double-citizenship so I am American infact.

Well, at least we got that squared away.



Russians have no sense of humor at all ... It was a joke man ... Chill out ...

Right, because in Russia - humor is funny. (Cue the Yakov Smirnoff)

[Hyllus]

Oh, really?
Yes really, you don't need to have a chat with somebody, you can see their actions and see what kind of people they are. For example GWB. I know what he does and I come to the conclusion that he is a real retard who can't even ****ounce words right even in ENGLISH. Yeah that's America's president. I never meet him, but I know what his beliefs are.



And that's why Native Americans and Native Indian Tribes were given the rights to vote, own property and land - like the settlers

Yeah sure... We'll exterminate you first and then take your land. After that we send you to a lost place and then we tell you it's ok. Stay here we're not gonna bother you. The next thing you know somebody finds gold where they live. Oh sorry guys we gotta move you again. After that we'll give you the right to vote and to own land. Yeah you'll be happy, afterall you should thank us we didn't kill all of you. Nice logics you got there.


That's why Slavery was abolished and african slaves were set free and given land - "By the Founding Fathers". That's why serfdom was abolished - by the "Founding Fathers!
Slavery was abolished by the beliefs of the founding fathers which Lincoln himself embraced. He went to war with those southern retards to show that freedom was the most important thing in this country, he was a true republican, but then we have some other kinds of republicans like the wiseass in the white house


do tell me more stories how great they were... I can't help but be sarcastic about this, but how many of the "Founding Fathers" personally OWNED SLAVES?
You have no clue what you're talking about. Slavery in 1776 was nothing. Owning slaves was normal. So what is your solution smartass? They should've abolished slavery since 1776? And then the country would immediatly jump into civili war? Yeah sure. The times were hard and everybody had to own slaves if they were part of the elite. However, I am not justifying their actions. Every person has flaws and there's nothing we can do about them.


Oppressive regimes have no gegraphical restrictions - you may not think so all you want. Taliban managed to strike at the US from that very distance.
Dude do you know how stupid that sounds? We were talking about Saddam and then you started talking about the Talibans. Yeah sure. Change topic. So what threat was Saddam to US?


Mexicans want to come to American California - IF California was Mexican, then they'd want to come to American Oregon, Washington etc... Mexico has a poor track record of keeping its citizens happy, protecting freedoms, enforcing its laws or making the land prosper - so yes, I think California is better off as a State of the US then a far northern province of Mexico. That statement applies to the land and its people.

You don't get what I'm saying. I said that WE stole the Mexican land and our historians addmit it. I am not saying we have to give it back, what I'm saying is that there are retards who say that invasion of an Independent country is cool and we can get away with it.



Political Climate and Foreign Relations are not as naive as your grasp of them.

So in other words, you're saying I'm an ignorant who doesn't know anything. So my question is "Wisseguy why don't you help me out in becomin less naive?"



Right, because in Russia - humor is funny.

Or maybe because you didn't get drunk yet.

[Spartan XV]

This has got to be the biggest "quote-fest" I have ever seen.

[Jim Bowie]

My family moved to Texas when it was still owned by Spain. Moses Austin and his son Stephen were given land grants in Texas by the Spanish crown. Mexico had nothing to do with it. Santa Ana was the most brutal dictator that this hemisphere has ever seen. His scope of genocide and enslavement has been unparalleled before or since.

Six flags have flown over Texas, the Mexican flag flying the 2nd shortest amount of time only to that of the Confederacy.

Using Mexican logic, the French have more rights to Texas than they do!

My family settled in East Texas and the only Mexicans in that neck of the woods were the Mexican soldiers garrisoned in Nacogdoches. The rest were a blend of Anglo Texans, French, Americans and Caddo Indians.

Mexicans were never fond of Texas. The climate, agriculture and living conditions were considered crude at best and they favored central Mexico to anywhere in Texas.

The Mexicans we see fleeing the oppressive reign of Vincente Fox and his elite ruling class are not the same Mexicans who once sought to colonize Texas. The "new" Mexicans are largelycoming from central and southern Mexico where the ruling class has elected to ignore basic living standards for it's populous.

I would suggest those interested in Texas history to read on the subject and not spout off myths that the racist Mexican immigrant outfits are spouting.

If Mexico wants to "reclaim" our family farm that has been in our family for centuries, COME AND TAKE IT! The last time we had Mexicans on our property we killed all of them and buried them in a mass grave. 18 fully dressed Mexican Dragoons, 1/4 of the garrison. They are still there today.

[budanski]

My family moved to Texas when it was still owned by Spain. Moses Austin and his son Stephen were given land grants in Texas by the Spanish crown. Mexico had nothing to do with it. Santa Ana was the most brutal dictator that this hemisphere has ever seen. His scope of genocide and enslavement has been unparalleled before or since.

Six flags have flown over Texas, the Mexican flag flying the 2nd shortest amount of time only to that of the Confederacy.

Using Mexican logic, the French have more rights to Texas than they do!

My family settled in East Texas and the only Mexicans in that neck of the woods were the Mexican soldiers garrisoned in Nacogdoches. The rest were a blend of Anglo Texans, French, Americans and Caddo Indians.

Mexicans were neve fond of Texas. The climate, agriculture and living conditions were considered crude at best and they favored central Mexico to anywhere in Texas.

The Mexicans we see fleeing the oppressive reign of Vincente Fox and his elite ruling class are not the same Mexicans who once sought to colonize Texas. The "new" Mexicans are largelycoming from central and southern Mexico where the ruling class has elected to ignore basic living standards for it's populous.

I would suggest those interested in Texas history to read on the subject and not spout off myths that the racist Mexican immigrant outfits are spouting.

If Mexico wants to "reclaim" our family farm that has been in our family for centuries, COME AND TAKE IT! The last time we had Mexicans on our property we killed all of them and buried them in a mass grave. 18 fully dressed Mexican Dragoons, 1/4 of the garrison. They are still there today.
Well said.

The fact that the Mexicans wanting to reclaim southwest US means that the Treaty of Guadalupe Hildago is forfeited thus giving the U.S. back the $15 million (at the time) given to mexico for territory it rightfully won in the Mexican-American War of 1848 including Mexico City on up.