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Jeremiah
05-04-2006, 09:00 AM
By YOUSSEF IBRAHIM
May 1, 2006


On Friday, the day "United 93" opened in New York, I watched the movie at an Upper West Side theater. As the credits rolled, no one in the audience of about 300 moved. The ushers did not attempt to start sweeping the aisles. We stared silently at the screen, together. Someone quietly cleared his throat.

Afterward, I walked home in a daze, oblivious to the sunny weather and anxious to call friends to talk about the experience. Most of them assured me that they could not sit through it, or expressed their disapproval.

"I cannot see it, it is too early," my cousin Sandra said. "It's bad enough these families suffered. Why put them through it again?"

In fact, the families of Flight 93's passengers, whose last words were repeated by the film's actors - words like "I love you, honey," spoken to children, spouses, or parents - overwhelmingly approved of the project.

Other Americans might well consider their wisdom: Never forget and certainly never forgive.

I myself was initially ambivalent about the movie. But as I stepped out of the theater and onto Broadway, I began to think Americans have a duty to make "United 93" accessible, not just at movie houses around New York and the rest of the country, but at schools and universities. It should be available free on the Internet, and dubbed into Arabic.

Arab governments will ban "United 93." In turn, the undersecretary for public diplomacy and public affairs, Karen Hughes, should spring into action to ensure the film bypasses such restrictions and is seen widely.

"United 93" and other films in production about the attacks of September 11, 2001, must fortify a resolve to take revenge - yes, I said revenge - on behalf of the Americans who lived through the assault and Western societies in general. Revenge, rather than forgiveness, will stop such an act of violence from recurring.



The Islamic fundamentalists, Arabs, Muslims, and Europeans who approved of the attacks, whether overtly or quietly,must experience a reckoning.

The movie facilitates that voyage. The anonymous casting and stark cinematography give it the air of a documentary - spare and unsweetened. Such a stripping away of Hollywood gimmicks allows viewers to focus on what happened to America on September 11, 2001.

Audience response may move from anxiety to fear to outrage as director Paul Greengrass captures innocent passengers drinking their morning coffee, scores of air traffic controllers in New York,Newark, Baltimore, Washington, Boston, and the North American Aerospace Defense Command watching America's skies be taken over.

Many of the air traffic controllers played themselves in the film. The normally calm professionals relive the moments during which a new reality dawned upon them, when they came unhinged.

Meanwhile, four killers exchanged furtive looks from their seats, as sweat beaded at their temples, their crazy eyes darted about the cabin, their lips muttered Koranic verses, and their hands fondled box cutters intended to slit the throats of the pilot, co-pilot, flight attendants, and any passengers that got in the way.

The hijacking pilot, Ziad Jarrah, was once a nice boy, sent by his wealthy secular Muslim parents to a Beirut Catholic school. Now he was an assassin trained in Afghanistan by bearded Islamist instructors, who had him slitting throats of sheep in practice for efficiently finding the jugular of a human being.

Unlike other victims of the September 11, 2001, attacks, Flight 93 passengers knew what was to become of them. By 8:30 a.m. that day, it was clear that at least one passenger plane had been hijacked. At 8:42 a.m., Flight 93 took off from Newark only to learn about the others. The passengers were getting cell phone calls and learning what was happening. They knew what might occur thousands of feet above the earth as they ascended.

That is the pure evil we are up against.

http://www.nysun.com/article/31909?page_no=1&access=535912

moughoun
05-04-2006, 10:00 AM
The Islamic fundamentalists, Arabs, Muslims, and Europeans who approved of the attacks, whether overtly or quietly,must experience a reckoning. exsqueeze me, where the **** did we "approve" 9-11?, European's were battling fundamentalist Muslim terrorist's while the US was still playing footsie with the Muj in Afghanistan in the 80's or trading weapon's to the Iranian's, terrorism especially of the Muslim version, did not just start on 9-11, we've had 30+ years of it here, maybe they should crack open one of those strange thing's called a history book, does the NY sun usually post ****, or are they just feeling clever today?

2Sheds_Jackson
05-04-2006, 10:13 AM
exsqueeze me, where the **** did we "approve" 9-11?, European's were battling fundamentalist Muslim terrorist's while the US was still playing footsie with the Muj in Afghanistan in the 80's or trading weapon's to the Iranian's, terrorism especially of the Muslim version, did not just start on 9-11, we've had 30+ years of it here, maybe they should crack open one of those strange thing's called a history book, does the NY sun usually post ****, or are they just feeling clever today?

I have to think they are referring to the European Muslims who qualified their reactions to 9/11 by tacking on comments like "...but of course they deserved it because of their foreign policy". Europe is full of radical Mosques - and following 9/11 we were treated to endless interviews with these people who would say things like "Oh it was terrible - just awful, but did you notice there were no Jews in the building?". We did see a fair amount of that from the new Europeans.

moughoun
05-04-2006, 10:18 AM
I have to think they are referring to the European Muslims who qualified their reactions to 9/11 by tacking on comments like "...but of course they deserved it because of their foreign policy". Europe is full of radical Mosques - and following 9/11 we were treated to endless interviews with these people who would say things like "Oh it was terrible - just awful, but did you notice there were no Jews in the building?". We did see a fair amount of that from the new Europeans.
I'll take your word on it, but the wording makes me slightly doubtful, he mentions Muslim's, and European's seperatly, btw there's a weird but interesting conspiracy theory going about now, that it was the IRA and the Columbian FARC who did it......I'm not kidding, there was only 1 Irish person killed out of the 100's working there:roll:

a_very_ex_STAB
05-04-2006, 11:24 AM
Europe is full of radical Mosques

:cantbeli:
That is like saying the USA is full of crack houses

vlun
05-04-2006, 12:13 PM
You have to ask yourself first why did they turn radical. If you go to Palestine, or Saudi Arabia, you might find out why their lives are crap. ... basically, they blame the US because of their dealings with the Israelis.

Go to Palestine. See what life is like there
9-11 was a terrible day, and I will never forget.
Vman

Laworkerbee
05-04-2006, 12:52 PM
:cantbeli:
That is like saying the USA is full of crack houses

Well it is silly....next question!

XxDualityxX
05-04-2006, 12:57 PM
You have to ask yourself first why did they turn radical. If you go to Palestine, or Saudi Arabia, you might find out why their lives are crap. ... basically, they blame the US because of their dealings with the Israelis.

Go to Palestine. See what life is like there
9-11 was a terrible day, and I will never forget.
Vman

They need to blame themselves since when has isreal or the u.s stopped them from progressing. If they ever want to progress as a civilization they need to teach their children to be doctors and teachers and engineers not how to strap a bomb to their waist.

Bert
05-04-2006, 12:58 PM
Arr. I misread loads of stuff. Removal of totally irrelevant post right here. Sorry, guys.

2Sheds_Jackson
05-04-2006, 12:59 PM
You have to ask yourself first why did they turn radical. If you go to Palestine, or Saudi Arabia, you might find out why their lives are crap. ... basically, they blame the US because of their dealings with the Israelis.


Go to Palestine. See what life is like there
9-11 was a terrible day, and I will never forget.
Vman

That's sounds very close to the "9/11 was terrible, but you have to understand why they did it" mentality that grinds my gears. I don't have to accept their way of settling disputes. Every criminal in every jail is able to fully justify their crimes to themselves - it's the only way that they could be spurred into action. But the rest of us don't have to agree.

"Palestine" does not exist, but if I were to visit the occupied territories what I would find would be the result of 30 years of this mentality. Self-justified corruption, graft, violence, treachery - and the resulting "society" is a reflection of it. If they collectively decided to, they could transform the area into a garden that would be the envy of the world - but that's not their way.



That is like saying the USA is full of crack houses

OK, the US is full of crack houses. That's a true statement. But we recognize that we have the problem, and we have laws against crack houses, against crack, against dealing crack or possessing it.

XxDualityxX
05-04-2006, 01:01 PM
OK, the US is full of crack houses. That's a true statement. But we recognize that we have the problem, and we have laws against crack houses, against crack, against dealing crack or possessing it.

Like no smoking between 5:00 am and 7:00 pm after that you can get high as a motehrfu**er.

CPLHUNTER
05-04-2006, 01:30 PM
You have to ask yourself first why did they turn radical. If you go to Palestine, or Saudi Arabia, you might find out why their lives are crap. ... basically, they blame the US because of their dealings with the Israelis.

Go to Palestine. See what life is like there
9-11 was a terrible day, and I will never forget.
Vman

I'm sure that life in Palestine is pretty sh1tty. I'm sure there are lots of good people who are lead astray by the few. I believe they have lots of legitimate complaints however they don't realize that the ends sometimes doesn't justify the means.

Laworkerbee
05-04-2006, 01:32 PM
Like no smoking between 5:00 am and 7:00 pm after that you can get high as a motehrfu**er.

No I think you are quoting the rules I have posted in my home woot

vlun
05-04-2006, 01:47 PM
zac told americans too find out why mo atta decided to drive a plane into wtc. u can't just keep killing terrorists because u get 5 more each time u do so. what's wrong with american foreign policy? what is the foreign policy? 6/10 americans can't even pin point iraq on the map.

just food for thought
Vman

remo williams
05-04-2006, 09:42 PM
:cantbeli:
That is like saying the USA is full of crack houses
Not true, they are being replaced by meth houses.Different self destructive vice entirelyp-)

a_very_ex_STAB
05-05-2006, 04:18 AM
OK, the US is full of crack houses. That's a true statement. But we recognize that we have the problem, and we have laws against crack houses, against crack, against dealing crack or possessing it.

And we have laws against promoting religious hatred

joshfox0
05-05-2006, 04:44 AM
I've seen this film and talking from a critic stand point its called cashing in on human tragedy. While its bad its been banned in arab countries i can understand why they did it. its not a good film.

budgie
05-05-2006, 05:29 AM
I have to think they are referring to the European Muslims who qualified their reactions to 9/11 by tacking on comments like "...but of course they deserved it because of their foreign policy". Europe is full of radical Mosques - and following 9/11 we were treated to endless interviews with these people who would say things like "Oh it was terrible - just awful, but did you notice there were no Jews in the building?". We did see a fair amount of that from the new Europeans.

It's more than likely a snide dig at France and Germany and other nations that opposed the war in Iraq. The Right Wing never tire of trying to equate pacifism/common sense with 'aid and comfort'.

budgie
05-05-2006, 05:30 AM
Also exactly which countries have banned it so far? I don't believe the UAE is among them yet.

Durandal
05-05-2006, 10:07 AM
exsqueeze me, where the **** did we "approve" 9-11?, European's were battling fundamentalist Muslim terrorist's while the US was still playing footsie with the Muj in Afghanistan in the 80's or trading weapon's to the Iranian's, terrorism especially of the Muslim version, did not just start on 9-11, we've had 30+ years of it here, maybe they should crack open one of those strange thing's called a history book, does the NY sun usually post ****, or are they just feeling clever today?

No offense intended here, but the Europeans sold out as much as the U.S. (weapons for hostages under Reagan is a perfect example of our own shortcomings), maybe even more when it comes to terrorism.

I agree the article was fairly inflammatory, but I had to comment on your view European's heroic fight against islamic terrorism...as one who HAS read some of those history books.

joe mama
05-05-2006, 10:43 AM
I've seen this film and talking from a critic stand point its called cashing in on human tragedy. While its bad its been banned in arab countries i can understand why they did it. its not a good film.

Or it's called celebrating the heroism of a bunch of strangers that banded together and fought back. If YOU think it's cashing in on tragedy, and think that's a bad thing, then keep your cash in your pocket and don't contribute to the cashing in. And anyone who agrees with you can do the same. If I and others don't mind that the studio will make money from this if I go to see it, then we'll spend our money to see it.
If this is cashing in on human tragedy, then so is every movie (book, tv show, etc) ever made that depicts historical events where people died.

moughoun
05-05-2006, 11:14 AM
No offense intended here, but the Europeans sold out as much as the U.S. (weapons for hostages under Reagan is a perfect example of our own shortcomings), maybe even more when it comes to terrorism.

I agree the article was fairly inflammatory, but I had to comment on your view European's heroic fight against islamic terrorism...as one who HAS read some of those history books.
agreed, unfortunately:-(