France: Bin Laden Nearly Caught in Afghanistan

[Uncle Sam]

http://news.myway.com/top/article/id/391205|top|03-15-2004::11:28|*******.html


PARIS (*******) - Osama bin Laden has escaped capture in Afghanistan several times and may be linked in some way to the Madrid train attacks that killed 200 people, France's chief of defense staff said Monday.
Gen. Henri Bentegeat said about 200 French troops were operating with U.S. forces in southeastern Afghanistan against the Taliban and bin Laden's al Qaeda. The Saudi-born militant is thought to be there or just across the border in Pakistan.

"Our men were not very far. On several occasions, I even think he slipped out of a net that was quite well closed," he told Europe 1 radio. He did not specify a time frame.

Bentegeat, who spoke as if he were sure bin Laden was in Afghanistan, said the country's difficult terrain explained why it was so hard to catch the world's most wanted man.

"In Afghanistan, the terrain is extremely favorable to escapes, there are underground networks everywhere," he said.

The general said it was essential that bin Laden be caught.

"He symbolizes September 11 and is certainly not completely innocent in what happened in Madrid," he said, making a link between the 2001 attacks in New York and Washington and the Spanish train bombings last Thursday.

But he added that arresting bin Laden "would not change things directly. (Al Qaeda) is a hydra with many heads. If we catch one head, there will be others."

Bentegeat said the minute preparations needed for the Madrid bombings were "the clearest indication" that al Qaeda was probably behind them.

He said the threat of Islamic radicalism was spreading beyond the Middle East. "It's a phenomenon we're seeing step by step in Africa," he said, especially in sub-Saharan Africa.

"Then there are countries that are adrift, that we are trying to help to not sink, such as Ivory Coast or the Central African Republic," he added.

Asked about security in France, Bentegeat said French fighter jets could scramble in less than two minutes to confront any intrusion into the country's air space.

"Not a day goes by with at least one patrol that takes off to go check an airplane that has strayed off its path or doesn't respond by radio," he said.

[fantassin]

Another 50 SF troopers have joined the 200 mentioned in the article since it was written.

[Quon Sen Hutt]

I hope they get him soon.

[George W. Bush]

Hahahahahahhahahahaha... hahaha

[mustamato]

Would be fun if the Frenchies captures him. Once again they would do what
the US can not. Hopefully the Frenchies captures him, because then he´ll probably
get a fair trial, in Hague or something.

[Fenna]

No that's impossible, because apparently the French are surrender monkeys :roll:
According to some

[Trigger]

Would be fun if the Frenchies captures him. Once again they would do what the US can not. Hopefully the Frenchies captures him, because then he´ll probably
get a fair trial, in Hague or something.
WTF are you referring to?

Yeah, he deserves a fair trial like the 3,000 plus 9/11 victims had a fair chance.

Put down the crack pipe and slowly back away from the keyboard. :fork:

[Seoulstriker]

Would be fun if the Frenchies captures him. Once again they would do what the US can not. Hopefully the Frenchies captures him, because then he´ll probably get a fair trial, in Hague or something.

You are a f***ing ass****.

[Adri]

and why shouldn't he gett a fair trial ? (ofcourse he could get death penalty...but wouldn't that make him a matyr ?)
btw why just we don't hang him and show that we are no more civilized then them......

he should get life i prison, that is the worst thing he can get.

-if he gets death penalty, he will become a hero for the rest of the scum.

-if we gives him one of their penalties (like cutting his ***** of and then torture him) we will make our self equal to them


I can understand that a lot of americans want him dead but that is not the worst thing that he can get, his life is his status.
he is a matyr for the people and bye killing him (in combat would be worst) he will be know as a hero for them.
by threating him like a normal criminal and but him in jail for the rest of his life (ofcourse some stupied ass would try to save him so it must me well protected) he will lose his status and they will (at least some of them) will lose their will to figth.
the best thing is to do it with Hage, then it will show that the world is agains him...even the muslim part of it.

[George W. Bush]

Kill him.

[fantassin]

I think that if France caught OBL, we'd hand in over to the USA because:

-that'd be a very hot potato to handle

-the USA would never forgive the loss of face after having dragged us in the mud for years

-the moslems already hate the guts of the USA so it could not be any worst

But I am sure the US Sf would never hesitate to shoot at French troops if they were to compete to seize him; it happened already in 1945 when French paratroopers were killed by members of the US OSS when they were just about to arrest Ho Chi Minh while he was being treated for tropical diseases.

That was when the USA saw French efforts in Indochina has a colonial fight and not as a struggle against communism...six years latter, in 1951, the USA were paying for 95% of the French war effort in Indochina !

And by 1965, they were spending millions to try and kill him...

[M1A2U2]

Hopefully the Frenchies captures him, because then he´ll probably
get a fair trial, in Hague or something.

A fair trial? you are a sick man. I even question whether you are in AQ. Do you think its possible this man is innocent? Did you lose family members on 9/11? ok so then shut your mouth.

[mustamato]

Have Usama confessed? I most have missed that tape. Yeah he is probably
guilty, but so what, innocent until proven guilty or how the Americans usually say.

[SeanAshi]

Have Usama confessed? I most have missed that tape.Apparently so..you didn't see the tape of bin Laden in Kandahar talking about how pleased they were when the buildings came down, how their mission was a success.

[Trigger]

Have Usama confessed? I most have missed that tape. Yeah he is probably
guilty, but so what, innocent until proven guilty or how the Americans usually say.
SeanAshi beat me to it.
You mustamissedit. :roll:

[Kilgor]

But I am sure the US Sf would never hesitate to shoot at French troops if they were to compete to seize him; it happened already in 1945 when French paratroopers were killed by members of the US OSS when they were just about to arrest Ho Chi Minh while he was being treated for tropical diseases.

...

How many vichy french forces tried to kill allied soldiers during ww2 ?

[Argyll]

If OBL is to face trial in the USA,irrespective of his crimes,by the very constitution he has to recieve a fair trial,the outcome is inevitable,but as much as it galls some of you,he has to be given a fair trial,to show the world that the greatest and most powerful country in the world does not stoop the the same justice that condemned the victims of 9/11.
Is that not what makes America great?
If you start to "bend" the rules,it will mean a complete breakdown in the legal system that is the foundation of Justice.

Don't get me wrong,I'm just like anyone else,I want him dead.

[Trigger]

I really don't think he's coming out of his spider hole alive.

[Kitsune]

Hmm, actually it is not proven, that Osama Bin Laden is behind 9/11. The video tape shows Osama talking about the incident, discussing the collapse of the WTC but you could have made a similar tape of everyone on this site...caue we all have discussed 9/11, haven't we?

This is one fascinating point: There seems to be no track from 9/11 to Osama...he is just "chief suspect". He himself is known to have said in one interview, that he is not responsible (of course he could be lying. On the other hand, why does he not take credit for the most spectacular terror attack of all time? The US want him dead anyway...)


Regarding Al Qaeda: Actually there was a group of mainly Saudi fundamentalists around OBL, which used that name. But the US have monstrously overused accusations on Osama and his "basis" (and giving him an incredible ammount of face in the process). So soon after, countless fundamentalist groups, which popped up, were intermingled with Al Qaeda...if you are
1)muslim fundamentalist
2)wannabe terrorist
3)say you are part of Al Qaeda
you are.

But in reality, Osama controls only a small part of muslim based terrorism, its just, that he has become a symbol. And that is why he is likely to win: No one can seriously hamper his control abilities, because they are not needed. As long as he is at large he stays a myth (courtesy of Mr. Bush, who made him one). If he is killed, he becomes a revered martyr...his face could be a symbol for the fight against America forever (remember Che Guevara? He became a real legend, when he died).
Best thing is if he is caught and humiliated (drawing Hussein out of a hole in the ground, that was a good thing. Hardly what happens to a hero).
But if OBL continues to evade, or kills himself when cornered...

In any case, muslim fundamentalism and terrorism was not created by Osama. This has deeper reasons. Thats why it will continue, with or without Osama.

[Romulus]

If OBL is to face trial in the USA,irrespective of his crimes,by the very constitution he has to recieve a fair trial,the outcome is inevitable,but as much as it galls some of you,he has to be given a fair trial,to show the world that the greatest and most powerful country in the world does not stoop the the same justice that condemned the victims of 9/11.
Is that not what makes America great?

He has no "rights" under our constitution. He is not an American citizen, thats like saying Hitler had US rights.

[Romulus]

In any case, muslim fundamentalism and terrorism was not created by Osama. This has deeper reasons. Thats why it will continue, with or without Osama.

Christ! Don't get started on the whole " It's the United States fault". I get so damn tired of hearing that line. Blame the US for every bad thing that happens in this world is a great way for other countries to throw blame away from themselves. :fork:

[Kitsune]

@Romulus: I haven't said that the reasons for islamic terrorism were the sole fault of the US.
But don't exspect terrorism to end or even to decline if OBL is no more.

[usa320]

To say that Osama isnt responsible for 9-11 is like saying The Japanese werent responsible for pearl Harbor.

He doesnt deserve, nor will he ever get a fair trial. If the US finds him, chances are the SF will shoot him dead on the spot. Their orders are to try and take him alive, but not to miss the chance to kill him. If British, Aussie or French forces catch him, chances are they will hand him over. Assuming they dont shoot him either. If pakistan catches him, then he will be hanged and paraded through the streets.

If we do catch him alive, he will face a military tribunal and get shot dead more than likely. I know libs will whine he should get lethal injection, but lets face it, he doesnt deserve to die peacefully.

Assuming ground forces even make it to him. The USAF and CIA are stalking the skies with UAV's and A-10's, and they are cleared to fire if they get the shot.

[usa320]

oh, and a big HOOAH to the FRENCH for ONCE for helping out.

woot

[Truthsayer]

Yesterday I almost won the lottery. Then I didn't.

I will keep you posted.

[Romulus]

Yesterday I almost won the lottery. Then I didn't.

I will keep you posted.

Ha!! LOL!! good one :lol:

[M1A2U2]

Yeah Argyl he has no rights hes not a citizen. Dont run your mouth if you dont know what ur talking about. U prob wont respond though cuz u cant admit ur wrong

[cut]

Yeah Argyl he has no rights hes not a citizen. Dont run your mouth if you dont know what ur talking about. U prob wont respond though cuz u cant admit ur wrong

nor have minorities in the US, but what do you care?

[George W. Bush]

our minorities have more rights and special priviledges than anyone else here.

[cut]

oh yeah? how about representation?

[NcDeuce]

oh yeah? how about representation?

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Look no further

[mocking_loudly_died]

oh yeah? how about representation?

http://www.totalvideohouston.com/images/pics038.jpg
Look no further

That guy is a tosser.

[khukuri]

In any case, muslim fundamentalism and terrorism was not created by Osama. This has deeper reasons. Thats why it will continue, with or without Osama.

That what many people dont understand. Hes just a symbol.

[Romulus]

oh yeah? how about representation?

http://www.house.gov/ebjohnson/cbcmain.htm

There ya go!

[khukuri]

dont ruin the thread with american internal elections stuff

[Romulus]

Only about 44 black members of Congress. More minorities than hmmmm..let see.... Parliment.

[Kilgor]

Only about 44 black members of Congress. More minorities than hmmmm..let see.... Parliment.

Not to mention Powell and Rice in positions of power
Oh.,. thats right.. bush is a racist .

[George W. Bush]

oh yeah? how about representation?

http://www.blackengineer.com/images/watts.jpg J.C. Watts
http://www.randholman.com/Niger_Innis.gif Niger Innis

[NcDeuce]

Only about 44 black members of Congress. More minorities than hmmmm..let see.... Parliment.

Good point...

Silly Euros

[von_Moo142]

Back on topic then ;-)

Romulus


He has no "rights" under our constitution. He is not an American citizen, thats like saying Hitler had US rights.


That line of thinking is irrelevent.

The US will have to give a fair trial to all terrorist/Taliban suspects if it wants to help win the "war on terror".



Christ! Don't get started on the whole " It's the United States fault". I get so damn tired of hearing that line. Blame the US for every bad thing that happens in this world is a great way for other countries to throw blame away from themselves.


Thats not the point either. We all know, of course, that the terrorists are to blame for the terrorism which they perpetrate.

But different groups of people around the world have different views of the US. Some of them, the ones who support so called "Islamic" terror groups belive strongly enough to want to perpetrate acts like 9-11.

To win the "war on terror" we must deny them the majority of thier support. This means getting large numbers of people who deeply distrust the USA to have a more liberal outlook on life.


What is important is how the US (and other countries) acts now. By you and us doing the wrong things, the problem will only get worse.



USA320


He doesnt deserve, nor will he ever get a fair trial.


Thats exactly how AQ think. Do you want to think in that way? Thats what they want.


If you execute OBL, he becomes more powerful by being dead than he was whilst alive.

Like Obi Wan in the original star wars (if you strike me down, I will become more powerfull than you can ever imagine (I think)). :-)

Although I wouldn't shed many tears if he was "shot whilst resisting arrest" or whatever, it's not the best thing to do in the long run.

[usa320]

Not to mention that the races are becomming so intertwined in America that the line between minority and majority is slowly getting thinner and thinner...Not that cultural diversity is a bad thing. It is that which our country was built on, this idea of a cultural melting pot...


That what many people dont understand. Hes just a symbol

Yes, a very important symbol... He is more or less worshipped by his followers. If he gets killed or captured, it will be a mega blow to their moral, especially if they see him taken in a cowardly fashion as saddam was. But he isnt only symbolic. INtelligence suggests that he is more involved in planning and execution that orignially expected.

[George W. Bush]

transpire like in Star Wars, real life doesn't

[Shake n Bake]

Yeah Argyl he has no rights hes not a citizen. Dont run your mouth if you dont know what ur talking about. U prob wont respond though cuz u cant admit ur wrong

nor have minorities in the US, but what do you care?



:cantbeli:

Now that's talking out of your ass

[von_Moo142]

He is more or less worshipped by his followers. If he gets killed or captured, it will be a mega blow to their moral, especially if they see him taken in a cowardly fashion as saddam was.

OK, if AQ killed or captured your president, would you suddenly give up?

When the twin towers collapsed, did the American people suddenly become utterly demoralized?

No and no, right?


So if you take a group of people (some of whom are willing to carry out suicide attacks) and kill one of their leaders, will they give up?

Or will they see it as another thing that the US has done which makes them hate Americans?


Also, don't forget that AQ is just a meta-organisation, and the individual cells and groups that comprise it are quite independant.

[Salty Dog]

****ing thread is ridiculous.

[Shake n Bake]

oh yeah? how about representation?

http://www.totalvideohouston.com/images/pics038.jpg
Look no further


JJ isn't representing anybody.. He's in it for himself.







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Alan Keys

A black no nonsense Republican who is pro gun, Pro Israel

[mocking_loudly_died]

f*** thread is ridiculous.

Smoke some weed and it will all make sense.

[cut]

oh yeah? how about representation?

http://www.totalvideohouston.com/images/pics038.jpg
Look no further


JJ isn't representing anybody.. He's in it for himself.








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http://216.218.248.155/datastore/46/a1/t/46a154f513f25920f29dff925e5aa63a.jpg

Alan Keys

A black no nonsense Republican who is pro gun, Pro Israel


right that's 2, I need 12 african americans, 4 asians, loads of hispanics etc..

[Beowulf]

right that's 2, I need 12 african americans, 4 asians, loads of hispanics etc..

Affirmative Action

[cut]

Not to mention that the races are becomming so intertwined in America that the line between minority and majority is slowly getting thinner and thinner...Not that cultural diversity is a bad thing. It is that which our country was built on, this idea of a cultural melting pot...


That what many people dont understand. Hes just a symbol

Yes, a very important symbol... He is more or less worshipped by his followers. If he gets killed or captured, it will be a mega blow to their moral, especially if they see him taken in a cowardly fashion as saddam was. But he isnt only symbolic. INtelligence suggests that he is more involved in planning and execution that orignially expected.


I was discussing this with the proffessor of conflict resolution at my uni today, it all depends how you kill him, if you do a che, then he becomes a martyr, if you shoot him straight off he becomes a martyr, if you shame him he because a martyr, you execute him he becomes a martyr. Bear in mind if he becomes a martyr he is an even more powerful symbol.

Aparently the only way you can do it, is by humanising him, catch him in a brothel or frying some bacon.. that should work. But in all seriousness killing him is going to make AQ stronger.

[mocking_loudly_died]

right that's 2, I need 12 african americans, 4 asians, loads of hispanics etc..

Affirmative Action

Relating to affirmative action:
I think the best person for the job should get it, in this day and age modern western societies shouldn't have to fill quotas for different races.
In fact I believe it's more racist to assume a non-white person needs assistance to get into certain positions.

Then again, maybe I'm an idiot.

[Beowulf]

right that's 2, I need 12 african americans, 4 asians, loads of hispanics etc..

Affirmative Action

Relating to affirmative action:
I think the best person for the job should get it, in this day and age modern western societies shouldn't have to fill quotas for different races.
In fact I believe it's more racist to assume a non-white person needs assistance to get into certain positions.

Then again, maybe I'm an idiot.

I agree, but Cut was saying that America is a racist nation in which minorities have little to no rights. Granted he didn't come out and say that explicitly but that was what I got from his comment.

I present AA as an example of how my country is not racist. I think affirmitive action is an example of white's being put at a disadvantage over minorities in order to avoid any semblance of racism.

[cut]

Only about 44 black members of Congress. More minorities than hmmmm..let see.... Parliment.


that's because there are less minorities in the UK then in the US.

let see..

535 in congress 44 african-americans that's 8.2%
African-americans in the US as a percentage 12.9%

and that's just the african americans, apparently include other ethnic minorites inc. hispanics and they make up 40%. try that one out.

[mocking_loudly_died]

I agree, but Cut was saying that America is a racist nation in which minorities have little to no rights. Granted he didn't come out and say that explicitly but that was what I got from his comment.

I present AA as an example of how my country is not racist. I think affirmitive action is an example of white's being put at a disadvantage over minorities in order to avoid any semblance of racism.

Oh, I wasn't reading what cut was saying (sorry cut ;) ).
I think the principles of our capitalist societies negate racism, economics is color blind, least that's my view on it.
I want to work with people that can get the job done regardless of skin tone / religious background.

[cut]

right that's 2, I need 12 african americans, 4 asians, loads of hispanics etc..

Affirmative Action

Relating to affirmative action:
I think the best person for the job should get it, in this day and age modern western societies shouldn't have to fill quotas for different races.
In fact I believe it's more racist to assume a non-white person needs assistance to get into certain positions.

Then again, maybe I'm an idiot.

I agree, but Cut was saying that America is a racist nation in which minorities have little to no rights. Granted he didn't come out and say that explicitly but that was what I got from his comment.

I present AA as an example of how my country is not racist. I think affirmitive action is an example of white's being put at a disadvantage over minorities in order to avoid any semblance of racism.

I only started this because M1A2U2 reckons we have no rights...

looking back I think I may have misinterpreted what he said but just in case he didn't I'm going to keep digging my early grave :D

[Salty Dog]

f*** thread is ridiculous.

Smoke some weed and it will all make sense.

it makes sense, it's just stupid to be arguing about. and as for the weed, i was wondering if i could score a dime bag off you mocking? :P

[mocking_loudly_died]

f*** thread is ridiculous.

Smoke some weed and it will all make sense.

it makes sense, it's just stupid to be arguing about. and as for the weed, i was wondering if i could score a dime bag off you mocking? :P

Last time I smoked weed was 1999.
Sadly I'm out of the loop. ;)

[Beowulf]

Only about 44 black members of Congress. More minorities than hmmmm..let see.... Parliment.


that's because there are less minorities in the UK then in the US.

let see..

535 in congress 44 african-americans that's 8.2%
African-americans in the US as a percentage 12.9%

and that's just the african americans, apparently include other ethnic minorites inc. hispanics and they make up 40%. try that one out.

What difference does it make whether a person is colored or not??

Do you want us to make minorities run for office?

Do you want us to appoint minorities to office?

If you don't run you don't get elected, if the people don't vote for you, you don't get elected.

You calling my country, and it's system of government (since it apparently doesn't elect enough minorities to suit you) racist is about as accurate, and appropriate as me denegrating British dental hygiene.

[memphiz]

f*** thread is ridiculous.

Smoke some weed and it will all make sense.

it makes sense, it's just stupid to be arguing about. and as for the weed, i was wondering if i could score a dime bag off you mocking? :P
BC buds better ;)

[Salty Dog]

Only about 44 black members of Congress. More minorities than hmmmm..let see.... Parliment.


that's because there are less minorities in the UK then in the US.

let see..

535 in congress 44 african-americans that's 8.2%
African-americans in the US as a percentage 12.9%

and that's just the african americans, apparently include other ethnic minorites inc. hispanics and they make up 40%. try that one out.

What difference does it make whether a person is colored or not??

Do you want us to make minorities run for office?

Do you want us to appoint minorities to office?

If you don't run you don't get elected, if the people don't vote for you, you don't get elected.

You calling my country, and it's system of government (since it apparently doesn't elect enough minorities to suit you) racist is about as accurate, and appropriate as me denegrating British dental hygiene.

stag yo, calm down girlies, jesum crow, can't we all just get along?

[mocking_loudly_died]

You calling my country, and it's system of government (since it apparently doesn't elect enough minorities to suit you) racist is about as accurate, and appropriate as me denegrating British dental hygiene.

And declaring Australians as beer obsessed loons.....wait, I like that generalization.

[cut]

(...)and appropriate as me denegrating British dental hygiene.

I was going to make a reference to american weight problems but then it make it seem like we really did have bad dental hygiene.

But don't worry, we may have better teeth then you think, but we are fat too.

[Salty Dog]

glad to see you guys came to your senses.

[von_Moo142]

appropriate as me denegrating British dental hygiene

That wouldn't necessarily be inappropriate (although it would be even more OT) :)

[Romulus]

that's because there are less minorities in the UK then in the US.

let see..

535 in congress 44 african-americans that's 8.2%
African-americans in the US as a percentage 12.9%

and that's just the african americans, apparently include other ethnic minorites inc. hispanics and they make up 40%. try that one out.

Sigh....... 19 Hispanics in Congress, 4 Asians and Pacific Islanders, 1 American Indian, and 61 women.

The largest ethnic minorities in Britain are those of Caribbean or African descent (875,000 people). The next largest ethnic groups are Indians (840,255 people), and Pakistani and Bangladeshis (639,390 people). Are you telling me these people deserve no representation in parliament?

[Romulus]

But don't worry, we may have better teeth then you think, but we are fat too.

I think we can all agree the Germans have us all beat in the obese realm.

[khukuri]

great, youve ruined the thread!
whats wrong with you guys, take your ****ing discussions somewhere else, make a new thread in some other part!

[mocking_loudly_died]

great, youve ruined the thread!
whats wrong with you guys, take your f*** discussions somewhere else, make a new thread in some other part!

No one likes a cranky commie.

[cut]

The largest ethnic minorities in Britain are those of Caribbean or African descent (875,000 people). The next largest ethnic groups are Indians (840,255 people), and Pakistani and Bangladeshis (639,390 people). Are you telling me these people deserve no representation in parliament?


What makes you think they don't? they are even minority lords!



Peers

Victor Adebowale

Nazir Ahmed

Waheed Alli

Valerie Ann Amos

Raj Kumar Bagri

Amirali Alibhai Bhatia

Michael Chew Koon Chan

Pratap Chidamner Chitnis

Meghnad Jagdishchandra Desai

Navnit Dholakia

Lydia Dunn

Shreela Flather

Rosalind Patricia-Anne Howells

Tarsem King

Michael Nazir-Ali

Herman George Ouseley

Bhikhu Chhotalal Parekh

Narendra Babubhai Patel

Adam Hafejee Patel

Swraj Paul

Usha Kumari Prashar

Patricia Janet Scotland

John David Beckett Taylor

Pola Manzila Uddin


Members of Parliament

Diane Abbott

Paul Boateng

Parmjit Dhanda

Mark Hendrick

Piara Khabra

Oona King

Dr Ashok Kumar

David Lammy

Khalid Mahmood

Mohammad Sarwar

Marsha Singh

Keith Vaz


Members of European Parliament

Nirj Deva

Neena Gill

Bashir Khanbai

Claude Moraes


minority members of the various parliaments

according to the CIA factbook all minorities in england make up only 2.8% of the total population and yet they gat all this representation



Ethnic groups:
English 81.5%, Scottish 9.6%, Irish 2.4%, Welsh 1.9%, Ulster 1.8%, West Indian, Indian, Pakistani, and other 2.8%

[cut]

great, youve ruined the thread!
whats wrong with you guys, take your f*** discussions somewhere else, make a new thread in some other part!

sorry, it's my fault, carry on with this thread

[khukuri]

ok cut

Do the french and americans hunting binladin in the same place or do they think that they have him in different places. I thought us were on his path.

[cut]

ok cut

Do the french and americans hunting binladin in the same place or do they think that they have him in different places. I thought us were on his path.

are the french allowed to get him? The SAS weren't allowed, that's why we don't have OBL in custody now. :D

Seriously though I thought the french were just peacekeeping, and if they are hunting bin laden they have smaller numbers so I would say the americans are still favourites, or should be if they are any good ;)

[M1A2U2]

Wow cut I have never seen someone get as badly dominated as you did on this thread. Good job

[khukuri]

Do you guys think that the americans pissed off on the french for trying to get him?
on a higher political level?

regards

[cut]

Wow cut I have never seen someone get as badly dominated as you did on this thread. Good job

why thank you, I try. It's nice to get recognition.

[cut]

Do you guys think that the americans pissed off on the french for trying to get him?
on a higher political level?

regards

what do you mean?

[Beowulf]

Do you guys think that the americans pissed off on the french for trying to get him?
on a higher political level?

regards
I don't think anyone truly cares who gets him. Aside from the personal thing of everyone wanting to be the guy who gets him, once he's got no one is going to complain.

Me personally, I would love it if they didn't find him too soon so that I can hurry up, get on a team, and be one of the guys to find him. :)

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Do you guys think that the americans pissed off on the french for trying to get him?
on a higher political level?

regards
I don't think anyone truly cares who gets him. Aside from the personal thing of everyone wanting to be the guy who gets him, once he's got no one is going to complain.

Me personally, I would love it if they didn't find him too soon so that I can hurry up, get on a team, and be one of the guys to find him. :)

What would do with him?

[fantassin]

I thought the french were just peacekeeping, and if they are hunting bin laden they have smaller numbers so I would say the americans are still favourites

The French and US SF are working side by side, on the border with Pakistan. There are about 250 French SF in Afghanistan now and they are completely aside from the French ISAF Bn in Kabul.

One of the Joint French/US SF Task Force deputy commander is a French Navy Commando LTCDR

[Kitsune]

Romulus wrote:

I think we can all agree the Germans have us all beat in the obese realm.

According to statistics around 14 % of German youngsters are obese, compared to more than 30% of American youngsters. And it was an American statistic.

As far as my own experiences are concerned, I cannot say what exact percentage of the population is fat...but that the percentage in the USA is much higher than in Germany.
You definitly see much more obese people in the states than in Germany and you see people in the states which are of a kind of obesity (I mean really REALLY FAT), which are nearly unknown in Germany.

Reading statements like the one of Romulus (or comments about the alleged absence of good looks in German women, which are actually quite ok, compared to women in America, Britain, France, Poland...) I often ask myself if there is someone who creates Anti German propaganda about these things...

If there is, it seems to be working.

[Chasseur_Alpin]

The French and US SF are working side by side, on the border with Pakistan. There are about 250 French SF in Afghanistan now and they are completely aside from the French ISAF Bn in Kabul.

One of the Joint French/US SF Task Force deputy commander is a French Navy Commando LTCDR

yep, US change their tactic and make like France in Algeria and Kosovo...
that's why they wish some french SF.

[DPGLAW]

I hope when we (the US) catch him, they put his execution on pay per view, I know Ill pay to watch. They should also show it on the Diamond Vision Screen in Times Square,NY. Thats the way to go.

I also think that doing that would weaken his image, to humiliate him, like we did when we "perp walked" Saddam past the cameras and then when we showed that medical exam, we took away his dignity. thats what we should do. Although I know my statements above will never be reality, unfortunately the US wouldn't do something like that, it would be nice.

[DPGLAW]

oh yeah? how about representation?

http://www.blackengineer.com/images/watts.jpg J.C. Watts
http://www.randholman.com/Niger_Innis.gif Niger Innis


niger Innis...Did anyone ever see the screen shot of when someone at CNN ****ed his name up. They spelled his name "****** Innis", it was hilarious. I've seen it a few times so I am sure some others here have.

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oh yeah? how about representation?

http://www.blackengineer.com/images/watts.jpg J.C. Watts
http://www.randholman.com/Niger_Innis.gif Niger Innis


niger Innis...Did anyone ever see the screen shot of when someone at CNN f*** his name up. They spelled his name "****** Innis", it was hilarious. I've seen it a few times so I am sure some others here have.

yeah I've seen that