Zarqawi's Bloopers *video*

[Avary]

Makes you wonder rofl

http://abcnews.go.com/Video/playerIndex?id=1922578

[Marvin!!]

Yeah it makes you wonder... "Don't they have anything better to do?" :|

[A Soldier]

everyone knows these terrorist have no idea what they are doing

[He219]

Good link ..
Thanks.
:)

Here's the real deal
http://www.mnf-iraq.com/Press_briefings/May/photos/amz2.jpg
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Part 1 (http://www.mnf-iraq.com/Press_briefings/May/AMZ%20unproficient%20with%20M249%20SAW.mpg) (Dumass Part)
Part 2 (http://www.mnf-iraq.com/Press_briefings/May/AMZ%20firing%20M249%20SAW2.mpg) (Grab the hot bbl)

[Chuckie]

That's a pretty unique looking pickup truck he's getting into, can't imagine there are many of them in Iraq. Wonder if him or his thugs are still driving it.

[FozzieBear]

lol that dude who burnt his hand! what a stupid mofo.

[Hellfish]

That's a pretty unique looking pickup truck he's getting into, can't imagine there are many of them in Iraq. Wonder if him or his thugs are still driving it.

I had a pickup exactly like that one at ARCENTKU. It was a stickshift and I never did quite figure out how it worked...

These are all over the place over there. Usually with this weird, ugly brown and orange racing stripe.

[dave81]

Now what show does this video remind me of...

[Seiran]

I'm surprised Avary didn't say something to the effect of "The Great Kim Jong Il should give this guy lessons. For he is the greatest military man in the world and strives to help those who struggle against the evil American capitalist pigs!"

[yiorgo]

yea makes me wonder....if he is such a dip **** why havent we got him yet? maks me wonder

[Hutz]

lol that dude who burnt his hand! what a stupid mofo.

He can't shoot for s**t, but he sure as hell causes a lot of s**t. Not that stupid as far as terrorists go.

[Laworkerbee]

takbeer = something like an American screaming f*ck yes! after something cool

I heard that a few times in video 2

[Tracker 23A]

I think the media and certain other groups are making more of this than is deserved.

Who cares if he doesn't know how to **** the weapon? There are plenty of weapons that numerous professionals are not proficient on until they receive the proper training.

Anyone with military training, knows that burning your hands on a hot barrel is not an uncommon thing. It happens. Professional soldiers do it, so what is the big deal if one of the insurgents does it?

And for anyone contemplating that the "terrorists" (far cry from 9/11 and Afghanistan) don't have any idea of what they are doing, well I suspect you are somewhat right, nonetheless, they have proved more than a nuissance to every military in Iraq and continue to do so. Know or not, all the military forces in Iraq have not been able to defeat them thus far. To an enemy soldier, that is victory.

[EsoognomEhT]

I had a pickup exactly like that one at ARCENTKU. It was a stickshift and I never did quite figure out how it worked...

These are all over the place over there. Usually with this weird, ugly brown and orange racing stripe.#

You couldn't work out how to use a gear stick? Or just that specific van? O.o

Top Gear did a piece on these kind of 'pickups' a few years ago, about how versatile they were and how terrorists always used them, they got one and did all kinds of crap to it like dropping it off a cliff and sinking it in the sea..hehe

[dhfactory]

I wish he'd shot his mate in the head when he pointed the gun at his head.

I'd take this guy on any day of the week.

-Sean

[FozzieBear]

Anyone with military training, knows that burning your hands on a hot barrel is not an uncommon thing. It happens. Professional soldiers do it, so what is the big deal if one of the insurgents does it?

burning your hand on a hot barrel is stupid, and shows lack of competance and being on the ball while around weapons, its plain avoidable.

[ArmedPacifist]

burning your hand on a hot barrel is stupid, and shows lack of competance and being on the ball while around weapons, its plain avoidable.

I have a scar to this day from when a hot barrel struck my leg during a section attack, the gas cylnder loosened and made the weapon unstable, hence I got a scar.

I've seen MANY soldiers touch the barrel, either accidently or sleep deprived and did it intentionally. I've ALSO seen people get the guide rod in the face, by opening the C9 while it's cocked....

Accidents like that happen all of the time.

[JTAR7242]

They shouldn't.

[ArmedPacifist]

People shouldn't get AIDs either.

[EsoognomEhT]

I have a scar to this day from when a hot barrel struck my leg during a section attack, the gas cylnder loosened and made the weapon unstable, hence I got a scar.

I've seen MANY soldiers touch the barrel, either accidently or sleep deprived and did it intentionally. I've ALSO seen people get the guide rod in the face, by opening the C9 while it's cocked....

Accidents like that happen all of the time.

Yep. In an ideal world everyones skills and drills would be bang on everytime, but any can make a mistake.

Fozzie you're an acf instructor aren't you, with all the stoppages on a GP I doubt it ever gets hot enough for you to burn your fingers ;)

[PG18]

Yeah it makes you wonder... "Don't they have anything better to do?" :|

its part of a propaganda war .... :bash:

[Tracker 23A]

burning your hand on a hot barrel is stupid, and shows lack of competance and being on the ball while around weapons, its plain avoidable.

In the real world it happens, like FRATRICIDE.

PS: how is the airsoft going?

[ctcboy]

The point is to make him look stupid in the eyes of potential al-qaeda recruits.
Seems like a pretty good idea. The U.S. should do more stuff like this.

[QRO?]

It's interesting to note how Gen. Lynch describes the M249 SAW as "al-Zarqawi's weapon system". The punchline of "not knowing how to operate one's own weapon" could seem important to a completely clueless civilian observer, but actually a bit more embarrassing to the US if it was instead clearly stated that a US weapon jammed on Zarqawi.

Even though it doesn't prove much about his leadership capabilities that he doesn't "know" how to handle enemy weapons as good as special forces or other regular military with actual and recurrent training in OPFOR weapons, it does strike somewhat against the image of a "mighty überguerilla, The Arabian Rambo etc."

Then again, perhaps he was just holding the pose and more unsecure and uncomfortable about being filmed (this is his first propaganda film of any major circulation, if you don't count the speculations of him appearing masked in the Nick Berg beheading video) than handling a SAW. I've personally found that it's difficult to concentrate in front of a camera for the first few times if you don't have very precise direction on what to do. From the director's point of view it might actually seem much more distracting or embarrassing for someone to start to sort out their kit when he wants them just to look cool and stay still. The sneakers were pretty bling though... p-)

I'd be much more worried about his military capabilities if he was found unaccustomed to handling an RPK instead...

[ABNINF]

It probably jammed because he didn't know how to properly maintain it. Remember, they're used to AK's that have been stuffed under someone's floor for 30 years and can still fire. Also, it's been discussed in other threads. The M249 is NOT a practical weapon for insurgents, due to the fact that finding linked 5.56 ammo will be difficult. It was purely fired for propaganda purposes, probably with whatever ammo was left in the weapon when it was captured.

Besides, to paraphrase the movie Training Day:

"Zarqawi ain't got nuthin on ME!"

http://img149.imageshack.us/img149/6985/kingkong8zm.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://media.militaryphotos.net/photos/abninf/ady

It's good to having a little fun;-)

[dr_newstead]

takbeer = something like an American screaming f*ck yes! after something cool

I heard that a few times in video 2

The takbir is the name of the prayer 'God is Great'. So it's a bit like saying "Jesus Christ!" after seeing something extraordinary :)

Anyways, hope it hurt him.

[bugkill]

what pisses me off is that this general is wasting his time pointing this crap out! i don't give damn about how stupid he is with the SAW, i want to see the bastard dead. i want this general to make a declaration that we will show no mercy and our plans are to kill him and his followers, not capture or "bring him to justice".

this guy has made us look like fools and all this general can do is poke fun at him? what a complete waste of air time.we need generals to get up there make it known that our forces will bury him and those that follow him.

this guy has killed many iraqis and my fellow soldiers, but i don't feel the desire to want to kill this bastard, our leaders just don't show enough of it. we seem to not put any pressure on ourselves (armed forces) to do what it takes to take this guy down and his organization.

look at what our leadership has been reduced to, poking fun at a stupid videotape, truly sad!!

[Avary]

You forget a little detail, bugkill.

[QRO?]

It probably jammed because he didn't know how to properly maintain it.What makes you think he would maintain or even carry it? He's seen with AKS-74U in rest of the video like OBL, but who has seen him carrying any weapon to battle?

[mogsniper94]

yaaa. Like the point of the story is to discredit Z as a leader , and to make his followers look like bafoons. Its called thinking outside the box, and it took ten minute of the Generals time.

[Marvin!!]

what pisses me off is that this general is wasting his time pointing this crap out! i don't give damn about how stupid he is with the SAW, i want to see the bastard dead. i want this general to make a declaration that we will show no mercy and our plans are to kill him and his followers, not capture or "bring him to justice".

this guy has made us look like fools and all this general can do is poke fun at him? what a complete waste of air time.we need generals to get up there make it known that our forces will bury him and those that follow him.

this guy has killed many iraqis and my fellow soldiers, but i don't feel the desire to want to kill this bastard, our leaders just don't show enough of it. we seem to not put any pressure on ourselves (armed forces) to do what it takes to take this guy down and his organization.

look at what our leadership has been reduced to, poking fun at a stupid videotape, truly sad!!

X12354

It's a fvckin waste of time, like kids takin the piss out of eachother in a school playground after they've been told off by a teacher... "Well haahaa! You can't even do your own shoe laces!"

[FozzieBear]

Yep. In an ideal world everyones skills and drills would be bang on everytime, but any can make a mistake.

Fozzie you're an acf instructor aren't you, with all the stoppages on a GP I doubt it ever gets hot enough for you to burn your fingers ;)
im a cadet actually, i could become an instructor in about a year if i wanted to apply an that, dunno if i want to, anyway as for the GP's ive never had too many problems with em unless its with blanks, they seem to bloody hate blanks through them, but when ive been live firing they have been like lasers, i got a 32 out of 35 score on the last regimental shooting comp, got 2 bronze medals, but anyway enuf of cadets ;) as for burning your hand on a hot barrel, sure accidents happen i can see that (like smacking your leg with the barrel when your doing a section attack or something) but picking the thing up by the barrel? doh! big nono i reckon and its all too easy to avoid by a bit of common sense.

[TheHombre]

I have a scar to this day from when a hot barrel struck my leg during a section attack, the gas cylnder loosened and made the weapon unstable, hence I got a scar.

I've seen MANY soldiers touch the barrel, either accidently or sleep deprived and did it intentionally. I've ALSO seen people get the guide rod in the face, by opening the C9 while it's cocked....

Accidents like that happen all of the time.

Yup been there, done that but I sure as heckfire didn´t get on the internet in a show-off-propaganda-video, that´s the main thing off the clip.

[ABNINF]

What makes you think he would maintain or even carry it? He's seen with AKS-74U in rest of the video like OBL, but who has seen him carrying any weapon to battle?

It you had read the rest of what I said you'd have seen that "he" was a general term.


Remember, they're used to AK's that have been stuffed under someone's floor for 30 years and can still fire.

The video speaks for itself, that Zarqawi doesn't know **** about that weapon, and that was the first time he'd ever fired one. He's not a fighter. He's a COWARD. He's a pu$$y who orders others to do his fighting and dying for him, and cuts people's heads off to try to prove how "tough" he is.

[noodles55]

So what if this guy cant fire his weapon, there are still a million more of them that can

[Hiroshima]

So what if this guy cant fire his weapon, there are still a million more of them that can

The thing is, noodles, that apparently the Middle East values strong, competant leaders. If the military can basically kick this guy in the nuts by pointing out his inability to use a weapon they've seen American soldiers use with apparent ease, that'll work towards the end of causing a loss of support. No one likes a girly man over there after all.

[Swedish_Marine]

The idea behind this video, if I may speculate, is to show that Zarqawi has killed american soldiers. The machinegun is his trophy and this is his way to show off. Of course this is the first time he´s ever fired a SAW/Minimi and his inability to clear stoppages shows this. Don´t see him as an incompetent fighter just because he can´t handle a weapon that is completely foreign to him. By doing that you under-estimate him, and that makes him more dangerous.

Getting burnt off a hot barrell.... happens to the best of us. It has happened to me, and most people I know, but grabbing a newly fired machinegun by the barrell..... idiocy, and he deserved it, that fukcer.

If he´s captured (I prefer to see him captured alive), I hope he´ll be sentenced to life in prison. Getting sentenced to death is getting away easy. The true agony IMO is rotting away in prison. The primary need for a human being is not to be alive, but to be free, and by depriving him of that need will be punishment enough.

[Boomstick]

They should spend more time trying to hunt this guy down instead of pointing out his taste in running shoes. What a lame attempt to make someone look bad. You know Zarqawi has a whole reel of Bush Bloopers. If they think Zarqawi is so stupid, then why is he still at large killing our troops??? After this administration ends, Bush, Rumy, and Rice should do a show in Branson.

[cosimo]

I feel a bit embarrassed that the powers that be have gone to the effort of assembling the press and having a high ranking officer talk them through this vid. He's not proficient in using a foreign weapon? I don't care. I want him caught and imprisoned. Enough of this tosh!

[Ea$y-8]

Fairly interesting.

They are all armed with US weapons such as the M4A1 and M249 SAW. He couldn't fix his own MG and one of his friends grabbed the hot barrel. He was just trying to show off how "big and terrible" he is and failed miserably. He believed that the US weapons would make both himself and his underlings look more professional but instead looked like a amateur novice.

Zarqawi clearly thinks that cutting off the heads of innocent people and firing weapons on TV makes him appear to be a super warrior. But in truth he is nothing more than a coward who has earned himself a picture on the US's wanted list.

[RGRBOX]

Well, the guy isn't the best shop, nor much on weapons tecn. but he is a threat, and he does lead from the front. His days are numbered, and no matter how much pysops the Military pushes out will change his abilities.. but, this is a game. The guy will show himself again on video, and I'm sure he will just because the US is calling him out... it's like the US is saying OK you have a big ****, but it's not bigger then ours... he'll come out again, and when he does, he'll give the Intell people more info, and they'll get closer to getting him... with his **** dragging..

[Andrew116]

When I was like 9 or 10 I knew how to unjam a gun and my parents weren't really gun people, we never even own one, but for a guy who probably grew up teething on an AK thats just sad.

[toki]

what pisses me off is that this general is wasting his time pointing this crap out! i don't give damn about how stupid he is with the SAW, i want to see the bastard dead. i want this general to make a declaration that we will show no mercy and our plans are to kill him and his followers, not capture or "bring him to justice".

this guy has made us look like fools and all this general can do is poke fun at him? what a complete waste of air time.we need generals to get up there make it known that our forces will bury him and those that follow him.

this guy has killed many iraqis and my fellow soldiers, but i don't feel the desire to want to kill this bastard, our leaders just don't show enough of it. we seem to not put any pressure on ourselves (armed forces) to do what it takes to take this guy down and his organization.

look at what our leadership has been reduced to, poking fun at a stupid videotape, truly sad!!
x2

Makes you wonder... Makes you wonder... about what?
As ridiculous that Zarqhawi PR stunt might have been, exploiting it doesn't help. Actually i think making a big fuss about those bloopers isn't a good idea at all. It makes this officer look like they have no better intel then how Zarqhawi wears New Balance sneakers and messes up auto fire.
He doesn't need it anyway. I think the families of his victims don't feel too much joy about those weird little infos.

What's the intention of this vid anyway? Making him look stupid doesn't help those people who still struggle to find him. :|
And seriously who believes that some of his followers or future recruits now think. "OMG he cannot shoot!" They probably think: "OMG, the U.S. needs to bash his videos"

[BMF_EOD]

Alhough I think the PR stunt is at best...gay- It's also to let Zarqawi (and the rest of the world) know that we are/were right on his heels. In my opinion it isn't about the weapons firing, New Balance etc.. The meat of the story is we're on his a$$. It comes down to us having the video before he released it- and that is used to counter the "we have US weapons from soldiers we killed".
If you ignore all the posts below this story (http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/showthread.php?t=80245) you'll see a pretty rare glimpse into a shadowy world that's not some hollywood version either.

[Zerodivider]

The video speaks for itself, that Zarqawi doesn't know **** about that weapon, and that was the first time he'd ever fired one. He's not a fighter. He's a COWARD. He's a pu$$y who orders others to do his fighting and dying for him, and cuts people's heads off to try to prove how "tough" he is.

Up until the last bit, this could also describe Mr. Bush... ;)

[ABNINF]

Up until the last bit, this could also describe Mr. Bush... ;)

wow, simply wow. :roll:

How many world leaders do you know that fight alongside their soldiers? I can't think of a single one. You of all people should know this over the uproar over Prince Harry trying to go to combat. All he is, is a royal. He has very little say in the politics and policies of Parliment and the Prime Minister. Not only that, but he's 3rd? in line for the throne and there's such a big fuss over it. I'm a supporter of Bush, and whether you want to admit it or not, Iraq will be better off for having us there. 27 Million people can now feel free to speak their minds without fear of being imprisoned/tortured/murdered.

[toki]

wow, simply wow. :roll:

How many world leaders do you know that fight alongside their soldiers? I can't think of a single one. You of all people should know this over the uproar over Prince Harry trying to go to combat. All he is, is a royal. He has very little say in the politics and policies of Parliment and the Prime Minister. Not only that, but he's 3rd? in line for the throne and there's such a big fuss over it. I'm a supporter of Bush, and whether you want to admit it or not, Iraq will be better off for having us there. 27 Million people can now feel free to speak their minds without fear of being imprisoned/tortured/murdered.
That's not achieved yet, a bit naive by now. I don't want to malign the efforts to get there, but reallity is: You can easily get murdered if you support the wrong side or speak out. I don't think the fear is gone.

[ABNINF]

That's because they're stuggling not to fall into a civil war. What they don't really have to fear, is a government that will do that. You can be murdered in the US for supporting the wrong group sometimes. All that is, is individuals from select groups, i.e. gangs, or Shiite/ Sunni groups. The Olympic team doesn't have to worry about being tortured by Uday anymore, I'm sure they're glad about that;-)

[magicpie]

I wonder how they got all those american weapons..

even with looting them from blown up american vehicles you still need ammo

[ABNINF]

Magicpie, your avatar is giving me a headache;-) Our internet is loading it so slow, it's showing 3 images, as the owl fades from one side to the other. Look at it when it fades from one side to the other, that wierd image in the middle was what it was showing for a while

[tribal]

in the second video, where does he burn his hand? i didnt see it.

nevertheless, its a pure tit for tat propaganda war, nothing more. so he burned his hand, so he cant fix a jam on a SAW, big deal. He can wire up IEDs, send out suicide bombers and do all kinds of ****. This scumbag needs to be caught, period.

[szr]

The burn part isn't in either video posted here. I've seen the burn part--it happens when one Zarqawi side-kick hands the 249 off to another, as I recall.

[He219]

It's in Part 2 (http://www.mnf-iraq.com/Press_briefings/May/AMZ%20firing%20M249%20SAW2.mpg) of my post on page one.

The 249 is handed off to a guy who grabs the hot bbl just before they reach the pickup truck at the end ...
p-)

[ABNINF]

Edit: Doh! HE beat me to it

[szr]

Ah, yep, there it is.

[talib_killa34]

HE seems to be standing there worrying to himself if that SAW makes him look fat.

For all the macho bravado he wants to exude in his propaganda piece, our side needs to be right there sending back "tit for tat" pieces of our own. I know the M/E will just stick to what it believes...hey u pick which side you are on then....just worry later about what you sowed.

Just like the old way the US would allow persons to celebrate over burning Humvees and NOT retrieve the damaged vehicles, our soldiers would get PISSED off and actually DENY the enemy the war trophies they so desired and THAT is what is called a "small" victory. But those small victories add up and up.

[I'mOnlyHalfPolish]

I wish he'd shot his mate in the head when he pointed the gun at his head.

I'd take this guy on any day of the week.

-Sean

yeah it was funny how the general never mentioned how zar swung the weapon around pointed directly at his bud there without even taking his finger out of the trigger guard. that was actually the worst mistake of all, but it would've been an opportune moment for an accidental discharge.

[Hollis]

I did not realize that AL had soo many buddies on MP.COM...

[talib_killa34]

"it would've been an opportune moment for an accidental discharge"

Allah willing.

PS no Cheney jokes needed either please anyone! :)

[Some Guy]

A lot of Al Quaeda Boosters on here seem to have missed the point.. The point of releasing the video wasn't to impress some European turtleneck wearing dork in his parent's basement surfing the web reading MP.net..

it was aimed at exactly the same audience as AMZ's video- illiterate disenfranchised arabs looking for a "Strong Man" to admire.

Releasing the full version didn't take one second out of the hunt for the dirtbag so that argument is stupid.. What it did do is hopefully show a bunch of retards looking for a Mighty Holy Warrior father figure that this dude is a f\/ck-up diddling a machinegun in his tennis shoes.

[SGMGSG9]

M-249's are a "full-time" fully automatic weapon, there are no selectors for rate of fire on the trigger group just a manual safety. I mean holding the trigger back fully will empty the 200 round drum (as seen in the video) in a matter of 15 seconds. You can with the proper trigger control fire the weapon in single shots, I do this commonly when taking velocity readings, or sampling yaw on targets with this weapon. In the Zarqawi's video, he's firing single shots, when the weapon fails to feed. You can clearly hear the bolt closes forward empty. M-249's are a "open bolt gun" meaning the bolt stays back or open until the trigger is depressed. On its way forward the bolt passes the belt of ammunition sitting in the feed tray underneath the feed paws & strips a piece of ammo off the belt. The ammo is then pushed to the chamber as the bolt & bolt carrier close in behind & the round is fired. When the weapon failed to feed in the video & "pecker head number two", racked the bolt back for Zarqawi, this caused the feed paws to pull a new round in to place on the feed tray, and the weapon functions again. A tightly wound up belt of ammo, or a dirty & or poorly lubricated weapon will cause this kind of failure. I noticed that this M-249 is one of the older versions because it is minus the Picatinny rail on the feed tray cover, all current Models are equpeted with this now. Wish I had a dollar for ever time I got burnt by a hot M-249 barrel. A cool barrel will be warm to the touch after just 20 rounds. After 60 to 90 rounds its to hot to touch & will leave a blister in a couple seconds. After the whole 200 rd. drum the barrel will be so hot that to touch it with a finger for a 1/2 a second, it melts the texture off your finger, i.e. your finger prints melt away. If you where going grab the barrel at that temperature, you'd be in a world of hurt for 2 or 3 days. So I'd start looking for fat guys with left handed, hand bandages. I'm still trying to understand the correlation between New Balance sneaker & the U.S. Army's propaganda value? Hell man if I was Zarqawi, I'D WEAR SOMETHING I COULD RUN IN TOO! Sandals don't cut it when your a camel jockey on the lamb......

[He219]

Frankly, I'm suprised he didn't automatically clear the jam himself~!

I thought every self-respecting terrorist would know how to operate the charging/cocking handle ...
;)


The only good thing is that belted 5,56 rounds will be a pain to get a hold of.

[~center~]

I think most of you are missing the point of the "new balance shoes" comments. On a professional point, he's in uniform wearing tennis shoes; Not exactly professional. And second and in my opinion best of all, he is supposed to be this hard core true Muslim who denounces all things western yet, he's wearing "new balance shoes". That's why I laugh whenever I see OBL wearing a western camo field jacket.

Additionally it is humorous watching he and his cronnies handling their weapons in an unproficient manner. Regardless if they are as familiar with them as they are the AK47. Did anyone notice how he flags his boy with the SAW? Hopefully their level of competence wont improve much.

Other than that, it's just a media war that took very little time out of the Generals day. It is what it is, don't over analyze it.

[ArmedPacifist]

The only good thing is that belted 5,56 rounds will be a pain to get a hold of.


It can be magazine fed also.

[He219]

I should say linked, not belted.

Magazine feeds are a pain and continually jamb, so I hear.

[RGRBOX]

I'll tell you guys this to help ease some of your minds... In an extended war zone like Iraq, there are weapons, and amoo all over the place. As manyconvoy ambushes, and soldier wonded, or killed in contats, those weapons that are found my the bad guys are picked up along with the ammo.. the same with vehicles, cameras, laptops etc.. it's called war booty.. and I'm not talking about Snoop Dog, and what's his new fvcking name Diddly S.h.i.t fighting over J Lo..

[ArmedPacifist]

They are only to be used as a last resort, but to be honest the M249 is incredibly ****e to jamming and I have personally had many run away gun instances.

[RGRBOX]

I should say linked, not belted.

Magazine feeds are a pain and continually jamb, so I hear.

Yes they are, and that's why the redesigned M249 that was made for SOCOM was without a Magazine well, much shorter, and had Picatinney rails all over the place.. I first saw one from Hershal back before the War started in Paris at Eurosatory.. nice weapon..

[spetsnaz]

CQB Instructors...

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=8685881004154865284&q=CQB

[muede]

What a load of BS, also that doesnt prove "he cant shot", it just proves hes not very adapted to operate the M249 SAW they picked of from dead Americans, im pretty sure he has more skills and experience on PKM. But i wont ruin your fun any futher if its this kind of petty bs that makes you folks feel better then so be it.

Regards.

[talib_killa34]

What a load of BS, also that doesnt prove "he cant shot", it just proves hes not very adapted to operate the M249 SAW they picked of from dead Americans, im pretty sure he has more skills and experience on PKM. But i wont ruin your fun any futher if its this kind of petty bs that makes you folks feel better then so be it.

Regards.


I rather believe more people think the Zarqawi/AQ propaganda pieces as bigger loads of BS, but that's just a funny suspicion I have.

regards.

[Telnyashka]

I think most of you are missing the point of the "new balance shoes" comments. On a professional point, he's in uniform wearing tennis shoes; Not exactly professional. And second and in my opinion best of all, he is supposed to be this hard core true Muslim who denounces all things western yet, he's wearing "new balance shoes". That's why I laugh whenever I see OBL wearing a western camo field jacket.


Uhh you think these guys give a **** about fashion? I think they are busy with other things. New balance shoes are ****ing comfortable as hell. This isnt america where every checks their clothes to make sure it matches or looks good.

Also, the tennis shoes is perfectly fine. Seems like a habit gained from Soviet-Afghan war where soldiers wore tennis shoes as they were better in the mountain terrain.

Seriously, you think Hitler was a professionnal with an MP40? Or Stalin with a PPSH? Who cares, Zarqawi is a leader and he can be smug that he is still killing americans every day, while everyone laughs at the way he handles a gun, big deal. I like how the US government releases this crap, instead of actually capturing him hey lets make fun of him...

[Avary]

I think some of you need to remember something.

[Telnyashka]

I think some of you need to remember something.

What? 9/11 9/11 NEVAR FORGET?

[talib_killa34]

You know what? Zarqawi made it VERY prominent for him to be shown, WITH captured US arms, making a big show of being a big bad ass terrorist stud capable of shooting you and yer moms from the top of rooftops. That is what he wanted to do. It pissed alot of people, and you know I have no g-damn problem with the Army or anyone else trying to show that "NO" this guy is just a f***ing loser who will meet his demise sooner rather than later. The reason for that is that the US Army wants to mangle this guy REAL bad right now and they want him to fail, just as much as he wants YOU to fail, and YOU to suffer and YOU to die as well! What side are we wanting here? My choice is easy.

Saddam was proficient in guns. SO WHAT? End result: One former tinpot dictator in the corner pocket.

I'm sure the big macho Joe Stalin would say "I rule at firing a machine gun!" if asked in an interview. Hey, HE won WWII all by his lonesome if you watched some of the movies he approved of when he was alive.

Hitler too.

Have a great Cinco de Mayo, mmkay?

[Avary]

What? 9/11 9/11 NEVAR FORGET?
No. Something else.

[muede]

I rather believe more people think the Zarqawi/AQ propaganda pieces as bigger loads of BS, but that's just a funny suspicion I have.

regards.
Whatever both sides of propaganda are rather crude, **** like this makes Herr Göbbels to roll in his grave. Just amateurish.

I know the terrorists are rather uneducated and poor people but what is Americans excuse?

Regards.

[Seiran]

I think some of you need to remember something.

That Kim Jong Il could "pwn" this guy in the weapons AND style category??

[Avary]

That Kim Jong Il could "pwn" this guy in the weapons AND style category??
That too, but I refer to something else.

[talib_killa34]

Whatever both sides of propaganda are rather crude, **** like this makes Herr Göbbels to roll in his grave. Just amateurish.

I know the terrorists are rather uneducated and poor people but what is Americans excuse?

Regards.

Excuse for what? European liberation from the Nazis? Thought so..

You really care what Mr Gobbels would do in his grave right now?

Nice SS executions avatar you've got there buddy.

regards...

[Lt. James Anderson]

In that business any publicity is good. That is the main purpose of the propaganda for a terrorist or a guerrilla ...

As for burning hand on a hot barrel ... it fcuking happens all the time ...If that has never happened to you that means you haven't done much (and shouldn't be talking about thar kind of thing) or are just lucky ...

[muede]

Excuse for what? European liberation from the Nazis? Thought so..

You really care what Mr Gobbels would do in his grave right now?

Nice SS executions avatar you've got there buddy.

regards...
No dimwit. Excuse for ****ty and clumsy propaganda, first the terrorist go and do this clumsy video and then you Americans try to make good propaganda even more clumsily "commenting" on it.

The idea was i gather to make them look like foolish but the whole response it self was at least as bad as the video itself, so you all ended up as looking as stupid asses.

Also im no ****ing buddy of yours show some respect or do not speak to me at all, and also there is no SS in the avater and certainly no executioners. Go choke yourself somewhere.

Regards.

[Some Guy]

Hmm.. you're asking for respect but you're the first one cursing and calling people dimwit. And that choking thing? Where did that come from?

The usual Friday night entertainment for you? Dressing in a SS uniform and choking yourself while masturbating?
Or am I not respecting you?

[homerjsimpson94]

No dimwit. Excuse for ****ty and clumsy propaganda, first the terrorist go and do this clumsy video and then you Americans try to make good propaganda even more clumsily "commenting" on it.

The idea was i gather to make them look like foolish but the whole response it self was at least as bad as the video itself, so you all ended up as looking as stupid asses.

Also im no ****ing buddy of yours show some respect or do not speak to me at all, and also there is no SS in the avater and certainly no executioners. Go choke yourself somewhere.

Regards.
LIGHTEN UP FRANCIS

[Deuterium]

What a load of BS, also that doesnt prove "he cant shot", it just proves hes not very adapted to operate the M249 SAW they picked of from dead Americans, im pretty sure he has more skills and experience on PKM. But i wont ruin your fun any futher if its this kind of petty bs that makes you folks feel better then so be it.

Regards.

How different is clearing a PK jam from a SAW? Step one, recharge. The charging handle is on the same side for the SAW and the PK. The handle is remarkable the same for both.

Two of the BIGGEST difference between the two is disintegrating link ammo for the SAW vs. the PKM and the left-to-right loading configuration for the SAW vs. right-to-left for the PKM.

I would agree that as a propaganda piece the whole thing falls a little short especially considering the target audience. If the audience was the professional Western soldier then it is a good piece, but for the average Haji who would love a pair of New Balance and who has poor weapons handling procedures in the first place it doesn't win any points.

[ArmedPacifist]

The stoppage itself wasn't entirely clear, from what the General was narrating it was that the rounds were firing in semi only, couldn't that problem also be solved by setting the gas regulator to Adverse?

[RGRBOX]

Could have been severalthings causing the weapon to fire only on single.. The operator could have been trying to fire single, the weapon is so dirty that it is malfunctioning, or the amo is so dirty that the weapon is malfunctioning.. They're probably used to not cleaning their AK, and were doing the same with the M249... which needs cleaning.. alsoo you can add missing oil.. weapon could have been rusty, and bone dry on the oil side... like Duet. said, no of them over there are that good with weapon procedures anyway.. they just load, point and shoot..

I don't think that the psyops side o the Generals breifing was that good. But like I said before, I'm sure that this meeting is more directed at Zawkari himself, to try to call him out.. and when he does come out, to talk crap, they will get closer to getting him...

This whole media, propaganda thing is not for us, or the Iraqi, insurgents, but the man himself...

[Deuterium]

Could have been severalthings causing the weapon to fire only on single.. The operator could have been trying to fire single, the weapon is so dirty that it is malfunctioning, or the amo is so dirty that the weapon is malfunctioning.. They're probably used to not cleaning their AK, and were doing the same with the M249... which needs cleaning.. alsoo you can add missing oil.. weapon could have been rusty, and bone dry on the oil side... like Duet. said, no of them over there are that good with weapon procedures anyway.. they just load, point and shoot..

I don't think that the psyops side o the Generals breifing was that good. But like I said before, I'm sure that this meeting is more directed at Zawkari himself, to try to call him out.. and when he does come out, to talk crap, they will get closer to getting him...

This whole media, propaganda thing is not for us, or the Iraqi, insurgents, but the man himself...

I agree about the weapon operation. I would also agree that it might have been directed at only Zarqawi.

[I'mOnlyHalfPolish]

wow, i know ive already mentioned this, but did anyone see zar swing the business end of the gun right in front of dumbass terrorist #2's face w/o even taking his finger out of the trigger guard...? worst mistake by far...

[Deuterium]

Yeah that was what struck me the most. Not surprising nor the fact that the people around him didn't flinch or point out this obvious mistake.

[SAPPEROIF]

LIGHTEN UP FRANCIS


rofl rofl rofl rofl

ROFLMAO....Oh man I love that movie...

[SAPPEROIF]

Man bet those guys taping that vid were probably beaten within and inch of their life when he found out that part of the video got out.. woot rofl

".....and in other news today 3 bodies were found outside of Baghdad reported to be choked to death with VHS cassette tape, rumors have it they may have had ties to Alqueda mastermind Zarqawi, the bodies also reported to have burns from weapon barrels on their bodies...."

[A Soldier]

Man bet those guys taping that vid were probably beaten within and inch of their life when he found out that part of the video got out.. woot rofl

".....and in other news today 3 bodies were found outside of Baghdad reported to be choked to death with VHS cassette tape, rumors have it they may have had ties to Alqueda mastermind Zarqawi, the bodies also reported to have burns from weapon barrels on their bodies...."
Wow talk about taking offense................geez

[talib_killa34]

That too, but I refer to something else.


Avary just spill it man! :)

[talib_killa34]

No dimwit. Excuse for ****ty and clumsy propaganda, first the terrorist go and do this clumsy video and then you Americans try to make good propaganda even more clumsily "commenting" on it.

The idea was i gather to make them look like foolish but the whole response it self was at least as bad as the video itself, so you all ended up as looking as stupid asses.

Also im no ****ing buddy of yours show some respect or do not speak to me at all, and also there is no SS in the avater and certainly no executioners. Go choke yourself somewhere.

Regards.

You show some respect for my g-damn country or YOU can shut the **** up.
No sh*t I ain't yer fVkin buddy either so get that straight right now.
To me it looks like you have an pro-SS pic there (and it probably is) but hey what do you know?
Choke on your own somewhere else.

(very little) Regards.

[SAPPEROIF]

rofl ...


Hey look Double Stuffed Oreo's and milk

*Everyone stuffs their mouths and stops trying to be net kings over eachother, and remembers there are little people around here who talk a bunch of crap just to annoy others and get attention*

[talib_killa34]

rofl ...


Hey look Double Stuffed Oreo's and milk

*Everyone stuffs their mouths and stops trying to be net kings over eachother, and remembers there are little people around hear who talk a bunch of crap just to annoy others and get attention*


Group hug!

My apologies to the rest of you for losing my cool. :)

[I'mOnlyHalfPolish]

talib no worries from me check out my name on here...you think im worried about you pointing out war criminals on people's avatars, i think not!

ill throw in a 12 pack on top of the oreos...check that make it a case

[SAPPEROIF]

Group hug!

My apologies to the rest of you for losing my cool. :)

aww not getting personally on ya bud....just trying to lighten the mood up a bit, lol..

[A Soldier]

Group hug!

My apologies to the rest of you for losing my cool. :)
It is totally cool, you will learn that trolls who post here say things, just to see what kind of rise they can get out of folks. So take it easy. Tell them to just go under their bridge and die.

[Telnyashka]

wow, i know ive already mentioned this, but did anyone see zar swing the business end of the gun right in front of dumbass terrorist #2's face w/o even taking his finger out of the trigger guard...? worst mistake by far...

I dont really think Zarqawi gives a damn about one soldier...he's just a peon.

[psychoticweazel]

They may look very incompetent. But think a minute...how did they get their hands on these coalition weapons? Exactly they are not as incompetent as you think!
Never NEVER underestimate your enemy even if they seem oh so stupid!

[SAPPEROIF]

They may look very incompetent. But think a minute...how did they get their hands on these coalition weapons? Exactly they are not as incompetent as you think!
Never NEVER underestimate your enemy even if they seem oh so stupid!

True..probably not hard either to make Arms deals for those weapons either though.