Poland steps up

[Shake n Bake]

http://edition.cnn.com/2004/WORLD/europe/03/15/poland.iraq.reut/


Poland 'willing to stay in Iraq'




BRUSSELS, Belgium (*******) -- Poland has vowed not to pull troops out of Iraq because of "terrorist" attacks and said it was willing to remain in command of a stabilisation force there if Spain, which had been due to take over, withdrew.

Spain was due to take command of 9,000 troops in central Iraq on July 1, but that was thrown into doubt on Monday when Socialist Prime Minister-elect Jose Luis Rodriguez Zapatero said he could bring home the Spanish 1,300 troops currently there.

"Revising our positions on Iraq after terrorists attacks would be to admit that terrorists are stronger and that they are right (to pursue attacks)," Prime Minister Leszek Miller told a news conference in the Polish town of Tarnow.

Zapataro's Sunday election victory was attributed in large part to a voter backlash against the previous government's support for the U.S.-led invasion of Iraq last year.

Many Spaniards blame last week's Madrid train bombings, which killed 200 people, on Spain's backing for the U.S.-led invasion and occupation of Iraq.

Poland has 2,400 troops in Iraq and has led a 9,000-strong division of troops from 24 nations in a central-south zone since last September.

"If it is necessary, we will continue leading the multinational division," Polish Ambassador to NATO Jerzy M. Nowak told ******* in Brussels. "We are prepared for that even if Spain is not able to fulfil its promise."

He said Warsaw would be prepared to stay in command of the division until the end of this year but would probably need NATO support to generate the right forces and provide essential equipment such as communications.

"We probably would again ask NATO for some assistance with force generation," Nowak said.

"The real problem would be what to do with the loss of one of the best troop contingents: 1,300 soldiers of very high class which had specific duties vis-a-vis the small contingents from Central America," he added, referring to troop contributions from Central Honduras, Salvador and the Dominican Republic.

[fantassin]

"Revising our positions on Iraq after terrorists attacks would be to admit that terrorists are stronger and that they are right (to pursue attacks)," Prime Minister Leszek Miller told a news conference


Holier than thou.....

He just forgets that the withdrawal was part of the PSOE program and not the result of the bombing.

[Shake n Bake]

http://www.crwflags.com/art/countries1/pol.gif

:hug: It's times like these you find out who your real friends are.

[AOCBravo2004]

"Revising our positions on Iraq after terrorists attacks would be to admit that terrorists are stronger and that they are right (to pursue attacks)," Prime Minister Leszek Miller told a news conference


Holier than thou.....

He just forgets that the withdrawal was part of the PSOE program and not the result of the bombing.

Actually, you can attribute the withdrawl to the bombing since prior to the bombing it looked like the Popular Party was going to win the election in Espana.

[wholagun]

"Revising our positions on Iraq after terrorists attacks would be to admit that terrorists are stronger and that they are right (to pursue attacks)," Prime Minister Leszek Miller told a news conference


Holier than thou.....

He just forgets that the withdrawal was part of the PSOE program and not the result of the bombing.

Um what?
The PSOE would not have won the race had it not been for the bombing many agrue.

[Nizark]

My people never cease to amaze me....GO POLAND!

Damn socialist pussies would have never had a chance if it wasn't for the AQ bombing. I can see it now, the next story on fox news, "Does the socialist party of Spain have Al Qaeda links? You may be suprised at the answer, coming up next."

:D

[Whistler]

"Revising our positions on Iraq after terrorists attacks would be to admit that terrorists are stronger and that they are right (to pursue attacks)," Prime Minister Leszek Miller told a news conference in the Polish town of Tarnow.

THE WORDS OF A GREAT MAN!

I'm not an American, unfortunately my country is in the same catagory as France and Germany, but I still want to say THANK YOU POLAND. Poland is standing strong in the face of adversity when many other countries are choosing to roll over or just continue with the status quo.

http://www.anchorflagandflagpole.com/poland.gif

[RBull]

I say BRAVO! At least somebody have got the balls here in Europe, I wish our gvt. will be as brave...
RB

[Herrmannek]

This man isn't great...he is leftist/postcomunistic scum and we all hope here he will be gone from our gov. soon...

BTW I'm rightwinged patriot, but not nationalist. OIF engament is only thing this man hasn't chance to **** up....

[Whistler]

This man isn't great...he is leftist/postcomunistic scum and we all hope here he will be gone from our gov. soon...

I don't know much about him, but either way what he said was VERY true even if he is a bad politician.

You can't give in to these bastards.

[Herrmannek]

This man isn't great...he is leftist/postcomunistic scum and we all hope here he will be gone from our gov. soon...

I don't know much about him, but either way what he said was VERY true even if he is a bad politician.

You can't give in to these bastards.

true, true, true

[RBull]

I say BRAVO! At least somebody have got the balls here in Europe, I wish our gvt. will be as brave...
RB

[FallenAngel]

Amen to that.

Hope that new Socialist PM in Spain was taking notes.

[Whistler]

http://www.borderlandnews.com/war/photos/20030412-99753-57380.JPEG

[Loco]

Amen to that.

Hope that new Socialist PM in Spain was taking notes.
Of what and of who?? It´s true that converts are the most dangerous people, my god! so many years in the Warsow Pact musn´t be a good thing for Equanimity. I see in 20 years since now a former islamic terrorist critizing Spain for being too religious. It cares 0 what Poland, Check, USA, France and Germany together can think about Spain. To polish, I say we will hold our compromises, but we aren´t proud that the boss tell us we are good boys, and of course you aren´t better than us, only different.

[mack pl]

I say BRAVO! At least somebody have got the balls here in Europe, I wish our gvt. will be as brave...
RBZdarec RBull ;) I guess your gov. have balls too.You sent 120 commandos to A-stan :) Nazdar :)

[fantassin]

we aren´t proud that the boss tell us we are good boys,


rofl


Too true ! it all boils down to that...some people just NEED a strong master to tell them they are good boys from time to time, it makes them feel important.

[mack pl]

This man isn't great...he is leftist/postcomunistic scum and we all hope here he will be gone from our gov. soon...

BTW I'm rightwinged patriot, but not nationalist. OIF engament is only thing this man hasn't chance to f*** up....I think he isnt great politic,but who is in Poland?I guess not Lepper or Giertych(Hermannek will know who they are).BTW you have right OIF was one of better thing in ours foreign politic(its my opinion).BTW I'm leftwingedpatriot ;) Pozdro:)

[mack pl]

Amen to that.

Hope that new Socialist PM in Spain was taking notes.
Of what and of who?? It´s true that converts are the most dangerous people, my god! so many years in the Warsow Pact musn´t be a good thing for Equanimity. I see in 20 years since now a former islamic terrorist critizing Spain for being too religious. It cares 0 what Poland, Check, USA, France and Germany together can think about Spain. To polish, I say we will hold our compromises, but we aren´t proud that the boss tell us we are good boys, and of course you aren´t better than us, only different.Loco,i guess any Poles here dont banish you for that what your new PM want to do.I dont care what you will do.Regards :)

[Whistler]

You guys can keep throwing mud from the sidelines all you want.

The simple fact is, Poland pulls their weight and more, and they do it for themselves, not for anybody else. They are playing a greatly important role in the reconstruction of Iraq and nobody can take that away. Not you, not anyone.

[EvanL]

"Revising our positions on Iraq after terrorists attacks would be to admit that terrorists are stronger and that they are right (to pursue attacks)," Prime Minister Leszek Miller told a news conference in the Polish town of Tarnow.

THE WORDS OF A GREAT MAN!

I'm not an American, unfortunately my country is in the same catagory as France and Germany, but I still want to say THANK YOU POLAND. Poland is standing strong in the face of adversity when many other countries are choosing to roll over or just continue with the status quo.

http://www.anchorflagandflagpole.com/poland.gif
Whistler our country is not in the same category as france and germany. Both France and Germany tried to sabotage the Iraq war plans. We just merely refused to go. We still contributed to more in the area with ships and recconaisance aircraft, than half the countries who supported the war.

[Whistler]

I'd almost RATHER we stood against it.

At least France, Germany, America, Spain, Britain, Poland, and Australia took stands for what they thought was right.

Our Government chose to stand on the sidelines and watch, something that would have been UNTHINKABLE for our country 50-60 years ago. What happened to Canada?

The fact we actually have military in the effort just makes it even more of a joke. If we were sending the military anyway, why were we so afraid to make a stand?

[Herrmannek]

This man isn't great...he is leftist/postcomunistic scum and we all hope here he will be gone from our gov. soon...

BTW I'm rightwinged patriot, but not nationalist. OIF engament is only thing this man hasn't chance to f*** up....I think he isnt great politic,but who is in Poland?I guess not Lepper or Giertych(Hermannek will know who they are).BTW you have right OIF was one of better thing in ours foreign politic(its my opinion).BTW I'm leftwingedpatriot ;) Pozdro:)

leftwingedpatriot? man this is oxymorone... As for Giertych and Lepper, No and No, but if PO could make strong alliance with PiS, PO economy and PiS affairs, it could be good mix...

[Uncle Sam]

Props to Poland !

[Kilgor]

Any country that agrees to pull out because of these bombings is just encouraging more of such activity.

Poland is doing the right thing, **** the left !!!

[Quon Sen Hutt]

http://www.crwflags.com/art/countries1/pol.gif

:hug: It's times like these you find out who your real friends are.

Amen

[mack pl]

This man isn't great...he is leftist/postcomunistic scum and we all hope here he will be gone from our gov. soon...

BTW I'm rightwinged patriot, but not nationalist. OIF engament is only thing this man hasn't chance to f*** up....I think he isnt great politic,but who is in Poland?I guess not Lepper or Giertych(Hermannek will know who they are).BTW you have right OIF was one of better thing in ours foreign politic(its my opinion).BTW I'm leftwingedpatriot ;) Pozdro:)

leftwingedpatriot? man this is oxymorone... As for Giertych and Lepper, No and No, but if PO could make strong alliance with PiS, PO economy and PiS affairs, it could be good mix...I was joking about -leftwingedpatriot.I could called myself-patriot.BTW at the moment we have no any party who could do something good in Poland.I guess this **** Samoobrona will win next polls(tylu idiotów mamy w kraju-specjalnie tego nie tłumacze).In next polls i will vote on PSL ;) Pozdro :)

[Herrmannek]

leftwingedpatriot? man this is oxymorone... As for Giertych and Lepper, No and No, but if PO could make strong alliance with PiS, PO economy and PiS affairs, it could be good mix..I was joking about -leftwingedpatriot.I could called myself-patriot.BTW at the moment we have no any party who could do something good in Poland.I guess this **** Samoobrona will win next polls(tylu idiotów mamy w kraju-specjalnie tego nie tłumacze).In next polls i will vote on PSL ;) Pozdro :)
ołki dołki, but PSL isn't batter choice, maybe if you are farmer and you afraid about loosing that bandit's KRUS...

[mack pl]

Haha,no Im not farmer :) Pozdro :)

[EvanL]

I'd almost RATHER we stood against it.

At least France, Germany, America, Spain, Britain, Poland, and Australia took stands for what they thought was right.

Our Government chose to stand on the sidelines and watch, something that would have been UNTHINKABLE for our country 50-60 years ago. What happened to Canada?

The fact we actually have military in the effort just makes it even more of a joke. If we were sending the military anyway, why were we so afraid to make a stand?
Because it was part of Operation Apollo. :backhand:
Plus we had a frenchman in the parliament, what do you expect? Hes been raping our military since he got into office. What could we have contributed? JTF2? Maybe, but then the Canadian public would never know and neither owuld the rest of the world.

[fantassin]

Plus we had a frenchman in the parliament, what do you expect?


What do I expect ?

VIVE LE QUEBEC LIBRE !

That's what I expect....et je me souviens que si j'ai grandi sous la rose je suis né sous le Lys.

[tony6]

Well I hope our authorites won't change their mind even if we were attacked.

[REMOV]

but PSL isn't batter choice...bla, bla, bla

Haha,no Im not farmer bla, bla, blaBoys, next time try to avoid such REALLY stupid discussion there, and use PRIVATE MESSAGE button, ok? It is really easy mack and Herrmanek. Who cares Polish internal policy here and your own chats complety off-topic? I don't.

Once again I'm a little bit tired and embarrassed of such behavior of my compatriots :|

[Whistler]

I'd almost RATHER we stood against it.

At least France, Germany, America, Spain, Britain, Poland, and Australia took stands for what they thought was right.

Our Government chose to stand on the sidelines and watch, something that would have been UNTHINKABLE for our country 50-60 years ago. What happened to Canada?

The fact we actually have military in the effort just makes it even more of a joke. If we were sending the military anyway, why were we so afraid to make a stand?
Because it was part of Operation Apollo. :backhand:
Plus we had a frenchman in the parliament, what do you expect? Hes been raping our military since he got into office. What could we have contributed? JTF2? Maybe, but then the Canadian public would never know and neither owuld the rest of the world.

Good point on Chretien, so far Martin doesn't seem to be shaping up much better though :| . I can only hope something good will happen next election.

FYI I was just at Coles earlier today and saw an interesting book called "Who Killed the Canadian Military" . I only had like 20$ on me so I didn't get it but it looked VERY interesting.

[Whistler]

Plus we had a frenchman in the parliament, what do you expect?


What do I expect ?

VIVE LE QUEBEC LIBRE !

That's what I expect....et je me souviens que si j'ai grandi sous la rose je suis né sous le Lys.

Good plan.

Frankly, they and their politicians have done so much to screw the rest of the country over I don't really care if they seperate anymore. At least it would keep them from voting in our elections.

As long as we get to keep the transcanada highway I gotta say I can't see many disadvantages... :slap:

[wholagun]

Amen to that.

Hope that new Socialist PM in Spain was taking notes.
Of what and of who?? It´s true that converts are the most dangerous people, my god! so many years in the Warsow Pact musn´t be a good thing for Equanimity. I see in 20 years since now a former islamic terrorist critizing Spain for being too religious. It cares 0 what Poland, Check, USA, France and Germany together can think about Spain. To polish, I say we will hold our compromises, but we aren´t proud that the boss tell us we are good boys, and of course you aren´t better than us, only different.

you really think this is about praise from the US? Really? :roll:
Its all about economics and favours, your from an EU country you should know all how it works.

[seruriermarshal]

Thank you Poland , our friend , You are brave , thank you very much ............ Bless Poland !

[Herrmannek]

but PSL isn't batter choice...bla, bla, bla

Haha,no Im not farmer bla, bla, blaBoys, next time try to avoid such REALLY stupid discussion there, and use PRIVATE MESSAGE button, ok? It is really easy mack and Herrmanek. Who cares Polish internal policy here and your own chats complety off-topic? I don't.

Once again I'm a little bit tired and embarrassed of such behavior of my compatriots :|

It was stupid because it was meant to be...If you don't care don't spoil others chitchats, don't read and don't comment them, they will die faster. Everything what could be said about Topic was said far before we started our "disscussin". BTW not so off topic disscussion, because effects of not so far elections could change diametraly our external policy, and this is very serious threat...

[tony6]

Unfortunately those election in Spain will have also other consequences: Spanish govt. announced that they will no longer support Poland in the EU constitution discussion...
I don't get it-in Poland every party support our national state in this discussion no matter if it's left or right wing of the political scene.
I guess the elections in Poland wouldn't change anything in this matter.

[mack pl]

but PSL isn't batter choice...bla, bla, bla

Haha,no Im not farmer bla, bla, blaBoys, next time try to avoid such REALLY stupid discussion there, and use PRIVATE MESSAGE button, ok? It is really easy mack and Herrmanek. Who cares Polish internal policy here and your own chats complety off-topic? I don't.

Once again I'm a little bit tired and embarrassed of such behavior of my compatriots :|

It was stupid because it was meant to be...If you don't care don't spoil others chitchats, don't read and don't comment them, they will die faster. Everything what could be said about Topic was said far before we started our "disscussin". BTW not so off topic disscussion, because effects of not so far elections could change diametraly our external policy, and this is very serious threat...I agree with Hermannek :)

[Kingpin]

:hug: It's times like these you find out who your real friends are.
No, just wait for first terrorists attack in Poland. After that you can decide something for sure.

[Kingpin]

Well I hope our authorites won't change their mind even if we were attacked.

How often does you go on train? Your father? Your mother? Your girl?
How often you're using bus. How often you visit public places?

May be it's time for you to change your habits?

[volfram]

How many times drive your car,so many car accidents,mayby time to change habits.

[tony6]

No, just wait for first terrorists attack in Poland. After that you can decide something for sure.
Agreed on that but note that we have an election next year-if PO wins it (I hope so!) they will not withdraw our forces from Iraq for sure.
Left side of the political scene (current govt.) and right side support our presence in Iraq. The only problem is with those populistic/national parties but I don't think it's possible them to win.

[Kingpin]

How many times drive your car,so many car accidents,mayby time to change habits.

Ah, familiar Slavic view on things - fatalism :)
I'll say you one bad thing - i hope terrorist blow up something big in Poland. It will be moment of truth for you. Have a nice day.

[tony6]

How often does you go on train? Your father? Your mother? Your girl?
How often you're using bus. How often you visit public places?
May be it's time for you to change your habits?
I'm not gonna change my style of living.
But I'm aware that terrorist attack in Poland is just a matter of time now..

[tony6]

I'll say you one bad thing - i hope terrorist blow up something big in Poland. It will be moment of truth for you. Have a nice day.
Thank You wery much, mate.
Nice to know that You like us so much.

[Kingpin]

I'll say you one bad thing - i hope terrorist blow up something big in Poland. It will be moment of truth for you. Have a nice day.
Thank You wery much, mate.
Nice to know that You like us so much.

I've tired of persons like five-five-sixers

I know some people from Poland personally. And this is very good people. But they from rather old generation - 40-50 years old. Reading through forum makes me think that new generation in Poland is very stupid and ****ty in general. :(

You personally at least listening what we're responding to you while some even don't try.

[Collosus]

Reading through forum makes me think that new generation in Poland is very stupid and ****ty in general



You do of course relize how ignorant this statement is, don't you?

[Herrmannek]

I'll say you one bad thing - i hope terrorist blow up something big in Poland. It will be moment of truth for you. Have a nice day.
What truths we don't know already you are talking about? Why somebody could want to see inocent people die and hurt? When talkin about stupidity you won a prize...

[seruriermarshal]

I'll say you one bad thing - i hope terrorist blow up something big in Poland. It will be moment of truth for you. Have a nice day.
What truths we don't know already you are talking about? Why somebody could want to see inocent people die and hurt? When talkin about stupidity you won a prize...


Maybe somebody love terrorist .

[tony6]

Reading through forum makes me think that new generation in Poland is very stupid and ****ty in general.
What do You base that statement on?

P.S.
Look what Your fellows write here sometimes, man.

[Kingpin]

I'll say you one bad thing - i hope terrorist blow up something big in Poland. It will be moment of truth for you. Have a nice day.
What truths we don't know already you are talking about? Why somebody could want to see inocent people die and hurt? When talkin about stupidity you won a prize...

No, this is not about stupidity. I don't want innocent to die. I just know that personal experience is the best experience. Want to experience something brand new and totaly different instead of continuous bashing Russians?

Poland for too long was safe heaven for terrorists.

[tony6]

Poland for too long was safe heaven for terrorists.
I assume that by "terrorists" You mean "Chechens"?
Well-if radio "free Kaukaz" (from the first Chcechen war) is a terrorist organisation then Yes-Poland is a heaven for terrorists.
Man-just take look at Your avatar.
How was it?
"very stupid and ****ty"?
Yeah...

[Herrmannek]

Want to experience something brand new and totaly different instead of continuous bashing Russians?

Poland for too long was safe heaven for terrorists.

Why do you think that Poland was safe heaven for terrorist? Do you know at least one accident involving polish related terrorist?

[Kingpin]

Want to experience something brand new and totaly different instead of continuous bashing Russians?

Poland for too long was safe heaven for terrorists.

Why do you think that Poland was safe heaven for terrorist? Do you know at least one accident involving polish related terrorist?

Do you rob home where you live?