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Bacilluspolymyxa
05-05-2006, 02:16 PM
Extremists Declare 'Open Season' on Immigrants: Hispanics Target of Incitement and Violence Overview

Posted: April 24, 2006

As the public debate over immigration reform has taken center-stage in American politics and public life, white supremacists, neo-Nazis and other racists have declared "open season" on immigrants and attempted to co-opt and exploit the controversy by focusing their efforts -- and their anger -- on the minority group at the center of the controversy: Hispanics.



As a result, to a level unprecedented in recent years, America's Latino immigrant population has become the primary focus of hateful and racist rhetoric and extreme violence -- aided, abetted and encouraged by America's white supremacist and racist haters.

Spurred in recent weeks by the debate on Capitol Hill and the groundswell of grassroots activism in support of America's immigrant community, extremists have become increasingly emboldened by, and fixated on, the controversy over immigration policy, encouraging their supporters to capitalize on the issue by encouraging anti-immigrant activism, and even violence against all Hispanics.

While white supremacists have for many years attempted to exploit rising anti-immigration sentiments in the U.S., the level and intensity of their attacks against Hispanics has reached dangerous new highs, with right-wing extremists joining anti-immigration groups, distributing anti-immigrant propaganda and holding frequent anti-immigration rallies and protests.

As a result, Hispanics, regardless of their citizenship or immigration status, increasingly are becoming the targets of hatred and violence from hardcore white supremacists.


Full article can be found here:http://www.adl.org/main_Extremism/immigration_extremists.htm

2Sheds_Jackson
05-05-2006, 02:59 PM
White racists don't like people with brown skin? What? I won't hear of it! Now is news. p-)

In the interest of balance, shouldn't you provide articles detailing the rise of Hispanic racism, in movements such as La Raza and Mexica - which have vowed to use any means necessary to claim US territory as their own? Cause & effect.

HOLLiS
05-05-2006, 03:13 PM
White racists don't like people with brown skin? What? I won't hear of it! Now is news. p-)

In the interest of balance, shouldn't you provide articles detailing the rise of Hispanic racism, in movements such as La Raza and Mexica - which have vowed to use any means necessary to claim US territory as their own? Cause & effect.

I agree with you, the more one side raises the fear factor and stakes....... it will cause the creation of some reactionary force to appose them. Same with the civil rights movememt, The Klan grew because of the paranoia that panhandled by them and "Black" extremists.

Bacilluspolymyxa
05-05-2006, 03:14 PM
In the interest of balance, shouldn't you provide articles detailing the rise of Hispanic racism, in movements such as La Raza and Mexica - which have vowed to use any means necessary to claim US territory as their own? Cause & effect.Good point, but one thing at a time.;-)

Bacilluspolymyxa
05-05-2006, 03:18 PM
The Klan grew because of the paranoia that panhandled by them and "Black" extremists.The Klan had reached its peak and was dying when Blacks were still sitting at the back of the bus.

2Sheds_Jackson
05-05-2006, 03:27 PM
Good point, but one thing at a time.;-)

No dammit, I demand that we solve all problems at once.

I'm just saying that the US is facing something very dangerous and seductive - organized, well funded and politically powerful groups of foreigners who are devoted to our downfall. They are into our politics - using our own system as a lever to separate us from our culture and nation so that they can slip in underneath. If we are going to put an end to it, it will require action - these things do not go away on their own. And history has shown that if a government is too slow or too corrupted to react...people will take matters into their own hands, which sucks.

That pushback will happen is inevitable - but the government could diffuse it by enforcing the laws already on the books.

HOLLiS
05-05-2006, 03:33 PM
The Klan had reached its peak and was dying when Blacks were still sitting at the back of the bus.

From my understanding there was a resurgency, States Like Indiana, the klan was growing. After the CR movement and the talk of "Black Power" died down, so did the klan. Today it is not much of anything.

annihilation
05-05-2006, 03:44 PM
No dammit, I demand that we solve all problems at once.

I'm just saying that the US is facing something very dangerous and seductive - organized, well funded and politically powerful groups of foreigners who are devoted to our downfall. They are into our politics - using our own system as a lever to separate us from our culture and nation so that they can slip in underneath. If we are going to put an end to it, it will require action - these things do not go away on their own. And history has shown that if a government is too slow or too corrupted to react...people will take matters into their own hands, which sucks.

That pushback will happen is inevitable - but the government could diffuse it by enforcing the laws already on the books.

Are you talking about those nuts that want to rebuild the aztec empire out of the california, arizona and texas? I doubt think they are much of a threat. God knows, no hispanic can run a successful government. (Before I get flamed, parents are from argentina).

Bacilluspolymyxa
05-05-2006, 03:45 PM
I'm just saying that the US is facing something very dangerous and seductive - organized, well funded and politically powerful groups of foreigners who are devoted to our downfall.
Any ideas on who these powerful foreigners are.

They are into our politics - using our own system as a lever to separate us from our culture and nation so that they can slip in underneath.Come on you guys are the most powerful nation the earth has ever known, surely it can’t be that easy to undermine you from within.

If we are going to put an end to it, it will require action - these things do not go away on their own. And history has shown that if a government is too slow or too corrupted to react...people will take matters into their own hands, which sucks.Well you get the government you deserve.

That pushback will happen is inevitable - but the government could diffuse it by enforcing the laws already on the books.The government and their sponsors must be comfortable with the situation or they would do something about it.

2Sheds_Jackson
05-05-2006, 04:15 PM
Any ideas on who these powerful foreigners are.

Seek and ye shall find - try google. All these movements have slick, well-funded websites where you can download materials and make online contributions.


Come on you guys are the most powerful nation the earth has ever known, surely it can’t be that easy to undermine you from within.

We have a political system wherein the vote determines who is in power. There is currently a movement underway to give voting rights to illegals. Doing so will put their candidates into positions of power. Once there, the gates can be further opened, allowing more in, and speeding the process. The system must be kept honest from end-to-end or it will be destroyed. But any attempt to keep it honest is now met with cries of "racism".


Well you get the government you deserve.

Precisely. And some people aren't happy about it.


The government and their sponsors must be comfortable with the situation or they would do something about it.

Well that's the whole problem, isn't it? Who says that everybody in government has the nation's best interests at heart?

Immigration is only now emerging as a front-runner issue. It hasn't really been on the radar on national elections. But something tells me that it will be in 2008, and it could be a real wild card. The for/against illegal issue does not fall neatly along party lines - you have jackasses on both sides who are pandering to illegals. It offers a hard-line anti-illegal the opportunity of a lifetime to steal the show. It's the untouchable 3rd rail of politics, but I bet that the voting public would fall all over themselves to vote for a relatively unknown law-and-order anti-illegal candidate. The times they'll be a changin'.....

LazyLob
05-05-2006, 04:57 PM
Diazotroph you seem too clinical in your approach to a minor and contained ill within western societies. But Señor Dos Sheds said it in one: Racial and cultural supremacy seems to be coming from those who seem to be considered the “down trodden”. A sort of inverted take on life. They do take advantage of this, who wouldn’t. If one becomes too apologetic others take advantage and that is precisely where we find ourselves at present. Intolerance has become the domain of those who, wrongly believe are not tolerated. Now I’ve got a head ache.

tuercas
05-05-2006, 05:13 PM
i would not be too worried about "hispanic supremacy" groups like Mexica and the Aztlan movement. they are just a bunch of clowns who want to go back to some strange vision of native american life.

On the subject of hispanics trying to bring america down i would not worry too much about that either, hispanic immigrants go to the US to make dollars, not to take over the place and hand it over to hispanic countries. the way i see it , the US could grow quite a bit if they really wanted to if they offered some latin american countries the chance to join the union .

2Sheds_Jackson
05-05-2006, 05:25 PM
i would not be too worried about "hispanic supremacy" groups like Mexica and the Aztlan movement. they are just a bunch of clowns who want to go back to some strange vision of native american life.

On the subject of hispanics trying to bring america down i would not worry too much about that either, hispanic immigrants go to the US to make dollars, not to take over the place and hand it over to hispanic countries. the way i see it , the US could grow quite a bit if they really wanted to if they offered some latin american countries the chance to join the union .

I 100% support hispanic (or any other for that matter) legal immigration. But we have a system - and the system must be used as a whole. If tax money is not captured, or earnings are sent outside the US, the system is corrupted.

Trouble
05-05-2006, 05:30 PM
Are you talking about those nuts that want to rebuild the aztec empire out of the california, arizona and texas? I doubt think they are much of a threat. God knows, no hispanic can run a successful government. (Before I get flamed, parents are from argentina).


The problem is we are doing the same thing the Romans did. When the Barbarians were invading from the North the Romans (I forget which Emperor) placed the Gold and treasure out for the Barabarians to find a take, in the hopes that they would claim it and go back to their homes. However this did nothing but encourage the barbarians and they continued to invade Rome in larger groups.

We have /are doing the samething, with talk of legalization. A Nation should never tolerate the breaking or disregaud for its own laws, because once it does that nation will surely not stand..

tuercas
05-05-2006, 05:32 PM
there are already plenty of Pro/con illegal imigration threads here so i wont go into that subject, my point for this thread is that hispanics are not being subversive .

HOLLiS
05-05-2006, 05:54 PM
there are already plenty of Pro/con illegal imigration threads here so i wont go into that subject, my point for this thread is that hispanics are not being subversive .

I agree with you, Peaceful protest.. is Very American, whether I agree or don't agree. It is the right of everyone to be able to do it, to express their opinions and hopefully be heard. I don't care for the pwer merchants on either side...

remo williams
05-05-2006, 06:53 PM
[QUOTE]
they are just a bunch of clowns who want to go back to some strange vision of native american life.


Interesting...
On the subject of hispanics trying to bring america down i would not worry too much about that either, hispanic immigrants go to the US to make dollars, not to take over the place and hand it over to hispanic countries. the way i see it , the US could grow quite a bit if they really wanted to if they offered some latin american countries the chance to join the union

You have to admit the money that they make dosen't stay in circulation long as it goes back to their home country where it goes further. It's may not outright be a strongarm grab,but when they displace the indigenous(American citizen) labor, thus making it the status quo among employers what else could it be? The US could possibly grow or collapse by offering Latin American countries into the union. However how much more conflict would have to take place before that's accomplished? It'd mean getting rid of FARC, the drug cartels from mexico to South America (that's comming along nicely isn't it?) and as well purging the many corrupt police and Gov't agencies. Pretty tall order there my friend. but one thing you seem to have overlooked..when did any of those nations say they wanted to join as they seem to be satisfied with their current arrangement.

tuercas
05-05-2006, 07:09 PM
[quote=tuercas]
Interesting...


You have to admit the money that they make dosen't stay in circulation long as it goes back to their home country where it goes further. It's may not outright be a strongarm grab,but when they displace the indigenous(American citizen) labor, thus making it the status quo among employers what else could it be? The US could possibly grow or collapse by offering Latin American countries into the union. However how much more conflict would have to take place before that's accomplished? It'd mean getting rid of FARC, the drug cartels from mexico to South America (that's comming along nicely isn't it?) and as well purging the many corrupt police and Gov't agencies. Pretty tall order there my friend. but one thing you seem to have overlooked..when did any of those nations say they wanted to join as they seem to be satisfied with their current arrangement.

no one in their right mind would give up their sovereignity in this day and age, even if they where starving. that is actually how my town got started , rigth after the creation of the republic of texas, those that wanted to stay with mexico moved across the river from Laredo to New Laredo.

The US is looked up upon by latin america as the ideal to reach, not as an enemy.

WarriorMonk
05-05-2006, 09:26 PM
[QUOTE=remo williams]

no one in their right mind would give up their sovereignity in this day and age, even if they where starving. that is actually how my town got started , rigth after the creation of the republic of texas, those that wanted to stay with mexico moved across the river from Laredo to New Laredo.

The US is looked up upon by latin america as the ideal to reach, not as an enemy.

with weirdos like Morales, Castro, and Chavez...that is sure slipping away.

mattnwnc03
05-05-2006, 09:52 PM
Are you talking about those nuts that want to rebuild the aztec empire out of the california, arizona and texas? I doubt think they are much of a threat. God knows, no hispanic can run a successful government. (Before I get flamed, parents are from argentina).

i heard somthing funny tonight on tv, you know what jesus told south america before left for heaven? .............."dont do anything till i get back."

sct1886
05-05-2006, 11:24 PM
The ADL is a joke... They are a bunch screaming liberals whom find problems where little or none exist. I am 44 and have been to many a gun show and managed a Army surplus store for three years. In all of my years I have met one KKK, one racist Black Jew, a Nazi. Yes, racism is alive and well but not to the extent these buttwipes purport.

Ezekiel25:17
05-05-2006, 11:27 PM
Extremists Declare 'Open Season' on Immigrants: Hispanics Target of Incitement and Violence Overview



Must be the Mexican flag waving, "this is our land" thing, and legalize us even though we broke your law to get in here.

Roaming East
05-06-2006, 11:42 AM
Glad my lady is Dominican. Dont i get like a pass or something when the revolution begins?

Daniel1115
05-07-2006, 02:25 PM
When I read the title, I thought the thread was about how judiciales [state police] shot and killed a man in Tultitlan just on the suspicion that he looked like a migrant.

Tuercas, how common/rare is this? I have an uncle who is a cop in Guadalajara; but I can't ask him because my mother doesn't trust and pretty much disowned him.

tuercas
05-07-2006, 02:38 PM
When I read the title, I thought the thread was about how judiciales [state police] shot and killed a man in Tultitlan just on the suspicion that he looked like a migrant.

Tuercas, how common/rare is this? I have an uncle who is a cop in Guadalajara; but I can't ask him because my mother doesn't trust and pretty much disowned him.

there is a an illegal imigration problem here as well, just last week about 30 mostly hondurans where arrested in my neghborhood for illegal imigration. this neighborhood is crawling with illegals because its rigth next to the river and there is a shelter for migrants here called "casa de el migrante".

even though those guys can be a nuisance; always hanging out on street corners or going to houses looking for work, they are mostly country people and hard working. most of the hondurans are black or very dark skined so they really stand out when the authorities drive by.

most of these illegals get deported .

on the subject of violence toward illegals , it does happen mostly by local police but its mostly shake downs on the threat of arrest or deprtation but this is becoming rarer, specially in towns like mine with large federal police precense. this does not apply with illegals resembling "mara salvatrucha". they really standout with their tatoos, specially with the tatoos on their face . mara members, these guys get the beatdown whenever possible by the police.

its funny that you mention guadalajara. there is a problem with illegals there as well but its mostly retiree US citizens who live there along chapala lake. most are illegals by choice because it is ultra easy for a US citizen to get a residence permit, of course that means that they have to pay taxes so they rather take their chances. This is not hard to do in guadalajara , which is famous in the country for is large population of blond blue eyed people.

BlackRain
05-07-2006, 04:11 PM
White racists don't like people with brown skin? What? I won't hear of it! Now is news. p-)

In the interest of balance, shouldn't you provide articles detailing the rise of Hispanic racism, in movements such as La Raza and Mexica - which have vowed to use any means necessary to claim US territory as their own? Cause & effect.

You mean Open Season on Americans by Illegal Immigrants.

More American's are victimized by illegal immigrant criminals then illegal immigrants being victimized by Americans.

Examples:

California:

In Los Angeles, 95 percent of all outstanding warrants for homicide (which total 1,200 to 1,500) target illegal aliens. Up to two-thirds of all fugitive felony warrants (17,000) are for illegal aliens.

A confidential California Department of Justice study reported in 1995 that 60 percent of the 20,000-strong 18th Street Gang in southern California is illegal; police officers say the proportion is actually much greater. The bloody gang collaborates with the Mexican Mafia, the dominant force in California prisons, on complex drug-distribution schemes, extortion, and drive-by assassinations, and commits an assault or robbery every day in L.A. County.

North Carolina:

Illegals are responsible for 33% of all DUI arrests yet only make up 7% of the population. You or your family member hits injured or killed. Guess what, no liability insurance and no driver's license by the illegal means you have to pay for the medical bills or repairs.

New York City

John Mullaly a former NYPD homicide detective, estimates that 70 percent of the drug dealers and other criminals in Manhattan’s Washington Heights were illegal.

INS Blunders resulting in Dead Americans

In March 2000, Congress made public Department of Justice statistics showing that, over the previous five years, the INS had released over 35,000 criminal aliens instead of deporting them.

Over 11,000 of those released went on to commit serious crimes, over 1,800 of which were violent ones (including 98 homicides, 142 sexual assaults, and 44 kidnappings).

In 2001, thanks to a decision by the Supreme Court, the INS was forced to release into our society over 3,000 criminal aliens (who collectively had been convicted of 125 homicides, 387 sex offenses, and 772 assault charges).6



Spare Us the Bleeding Heart Liberal Bull Crap about the Poor Illegals.


http://www.immigrationshumancost.org/text/crimevictims.html

http://www.fairus.org/site/PageServer?pagename=iic_immigrationissuecenters0b9c

Geezah
05-08-2006, 10:27 AM
Spare Us the Bleeding Heart Liberal Bull Crap about the Poor Illegals.


http://www.immigrationshumancost.org/text/crimevictims.html

http://www.fairus.org/site/PageServer?pagename=iic_immigrationissuecenters0b9c

Thank you, I did it the right way, and it annoys the fruck out of me to hear the illegals chant on about making them legal.They need to get to line like the rest of us legals!