Back from London...

[Shadow]

Just returned from London and I have a few questions.

1. How can you guys live without Kebap? I bought a Kebap at Leicester Sqaure for THREE Pounds and I expected to get something like here in Germany -> http://www.euro-kebap.com/www/img/home/doner.gif

What I got was a small bun (like the size of my hand without fingers) filled with disgusting Lamb meat (tasted like dog food). That thing made me puke my guts out, seriously!

2. I was going out with my girls in a club [The Play Room] at 10 o' Clock. I was looking forward to get my first Guiness [ Everyone loves Guiness from what I have heard]. WTF FOUR Pounds for something that tastes like a german Beer mixed with 20392308428374 L of Water and put into a blender to get all the CO2 out. So I wanted to buy a bottle of Champange for 80 Pounds that was at 11:15 -> no Alcohol anymore OLOL ROFL?!!!!
I used to go to bed at 11 o' Clock when I was 5 years old....
The girls ordered some cocktails and the next surprise was that the waitress charged them 3 [THREE] Pounds for "Service". I guess the "Service" was that the waitresses skirt is actually more like a belt...

3. Are you guys so dumb that you have to write on the streets in which direction to look before you cross it ? There is also an arrow for those who can't read. OMG

4. Why are all traffic signs 4 times bigger than in Germany? Are you guys blind or what?

5. Alcohol at the age of 21? Hello?!

6. Learn to drive a car! You have to stop at a crosswalk if somebody wants to cross it.....

7. I got stopped by 7 policemen at Russel Square Station. They checked my friends ID and asked him with which group he associates himself the most [bangladeshi etc..] He is 17 and looks like 14, yeah he's going to blow himself up....

8. Learn to calculate! I only paid 9.95 Pounds for Mdm. Tausadds. LOL I gave her 30 Pound for a 24 Pounds Adult Ticket she gave me one 10 Pound Bill back, took 2 10 Pound Bills and returned me 10.05 Pounds...

9. Get rid of all those bloody french tourists! Sometimes I wondered wheter or not I am in London or Paris. There was a Tunnel of Horror at Tausaudds and everywhere you saw cowardic french teenagers pissing their pants...

10. Cinema -> 11.75 Pounds!!!11 OLOL

....to be continued.

I'm sightly drunk. I had to catch up my 1 week alcohl deficency...

PS: London Bums are teh worst! They make a german bum look like a hollywood star! OHhh and I hate your sockets they are so big and ugly and have so many holes in it they remind me of a 40 years old prostitute.

[Roldwin]

My brother is going to spend the whole summer in London. I'm worried, 'cos I don't want his ass raped. Any advice?

[Weasel]

Great post. roflroflrofl

[Shadow]

Don't worry there aren't as many fags there as I expected. I have only seen 1 or 2! Berlin is much worse at that point .

But again:

http://www.istanbulcenter.org/root/en/img/doner.jpg
British Döner makes DönerAli rotate in his grave!

[wulfstan]

I'm sensing flame bait here, but your observations sound like those of a European tourist in the most awful of tourist haunts in the Capital. That's like me saying i went to the Eifel Tower and complaining about the tourists, and being surprised that buying a hotdog did not represent French cuisine and great value at it's best! :roll:

Most Brits would know better than to order a Guiness from anywhere in Central London....

[wulfstan]

Don't worry there aren't as many fags there as I expected. I have only seen 1 or 2! Berlin is much worse at that point .

But again:

http://www.istanbulcenter.org/root/en/img/doner.jpg
British Döner makes DönerAli rotate in his grave!

Speak to the Turks about that. It's not like Doner production is governed by the Prime Minister or something!

[Captain Cabinet]

5. Alcohol at the age of 21? Hello?!


You sure you went to the UK?

[Shadow]

Another funny thing:
Normal money:
The smaller and the less shiny the token is, the smaller is its value.

British money:
The complete opposit and you have to search for 2 hours to find where the value is printed on -> in words not numbers!


You sure you went to the UK?

Yep, there was also a sign "Don't be offended if you are asked to show your ID to prove your 21" or something like that.

[wulfstan]

Another funny thing:
Normal money:
The smaller and the less shiny the token is, the smaller is its value.

British money:
The complete opposit and you have to search for 2 hours to find where the value is printed on -> in words not numbers!

Er, do you not use the same number system as the rest of Europe? The £10 seems pretty obvious to me;
http://monety.banknoty.pl/banknotes/great_britain/GreatBritainP390a-10Pounds-2000_f.jpg

[wulfstan]

Another funny thing:
Normal money:
The smaller and the less shiny the token is, the smaller is its value.

British money:
The complete opposit and you have to search for 2 hours to find where the value is printed on -> in words not numbers!



Yep, there was also a sign "Don't be offended if you are asked to show your ID to prove your 21" or something like that.

Well, they must have changed the drinking age without the British population even noticing!

[Shadow]

Er, do you not use the same number system as the rest of Europe? The £10 seems pretty obvious to me;
http://monety.banknoty.pl/banknotes/great_britain/GreatBritainP390a-10Pounds-2000_f.jpg

I mean the coins.


Well, they must have changed the drinking age without the British population even noticing!

You could buy beer with 18 but alcohol -> 21

[vampireuk]

Please stay in Germany.

[MrScruff]

You didn't get shot? Well I'll be, ain't that a kicker?

[Captain Cabinet]

If you had bothered to read the sign you would have noticed that they ID people that look under 21, but as long as you're 18 or over, you can buy any booze you want.

[jerka71_1]

Dump a few girls and your pounds will last longer!

[wulfstan]

Paying £3 for cover is a new one on me. I hope that doesn't spread, that's a stupid American custom of charging you for the privelage of serving you alcohol. Paying twice, no thanks!

[vampireuk]

He schoolboyed himself going out drinking in London.

[wulfstan]

He schoolboyed himself going out drinking in London.

Yeah, let that be a lesson, never do it again. Paying for cocktails and pints of guiness is like bending over and asking for ass rape and then thanking them afterwards!

[Shadow]

Don't get me wrong London was fantastic besides some things that made me look like this -> o_O
Shisha Bar FTW!!

[Mr Gently Benevolent]

Paying £3 for cover is a new one on me. I hope that doesn't spread, that's a stupid American custom of charging you for the privelage of serving you alcohol. Paying twice, no thanks!Yeah I have seen that a couple of times its usually to cover the cost of some deadbeat DJ.
I am having a good laugh at Shadow's report of his visit it sounds like he did the typical touroid thing in London, I was down in London a couple of weeks ago for my mates birthday, we went out in Mayfair for a meal but being the bank holiday the pubs were shutting early which was a pisser and we could not be arsed going over to the East End which is always a better night out.
I like the new pub hours in England I was in Brighton the same week staying with my brother and shutting time was 02.00 for the pub we ended up in.

[<Gypsum Fantastic>]

As an ambassador for Britain, I will attempt to address some of your concerns...


Just returned from London and I have a few questions.

1. How can you guys live without Kebap? I bought a Kebap at Leicester Sqaure for THREE Pounds and I expected to get something like here in Germany

What I got was a small bun (like the size of my hand without fingers) filled with disgusting Lamb meat (tasted like dog food). That thing made me puke my guts out, seriously!

Kebab is a food for drunk people designed either to suppress or induce vomiting. You chose to buy from a vendor which specialises in the latter.

2. I was going out with my girls in a club [The Play Room] at 10 o' Clock. I was looking forward to get my first Guiness [ Everyone loves Guiness from what I have heard]. WTF FOUR Pounds for something that tastes like a german Beer mixed with 20392308428374 L of Water and put into a blender to get all the CO2 out.

Nobody buy Guiness at a club, go to a pub. There is alot of skill involved in quality draught Guiness, ale, etc. Clubs don't care.

So I wanted to buy a bottle of Champange for 80 Pounds that was at 11:15 -> no Alcohol anymore OLOL ROFL?!!!! I used to go to bed at 11 o' Clock when I was 5 years old....

You went to a ****ty club without a late license, bad choice.

The girls ordered some cocktails and the next surprise was that the waitress charged them 3 [THREE] Pounds for "Service". I guess the "Service" was that the waitresses skirt is actually more like a belt...

She saw them coming and ripped them off. a.k.a. compulsory tipping.

3. Are you guys so dumb that you have to write on the streets in which direction to look before you cross it ? There is also an arrow for those who can't read. OMG

It's because of the one way system in London not always being predictable to a pedestrian. Did you see anybody get run over? If not then it must be working.

4. Why are all traffic signs 4 times bigger than in Germany? Are you guys blind or what?

Yes, but we are all provided with monocles at the age of seven.

5. Alcohol at the age of 21? Hello?!

The age is 18, in some circumstances you can drink at 16. They age check for 21 to make sure they have a margin for error. If they serve someone underage it's 6 months in prison and/or a twenty thousand pound fine, so it isn't worth the risk. Some places don't allow under 21's in to keep out annoying little kids like you.

6. Learn to drive a car! You have to stop at a crosswalk if somebody wants to cross it.....

London drivers, your face is softer than their car. You lose.

7. I got stopped by 7 policemen at Russel Square Station. They checked my friends ID and asked him with which group he associates himself the most [bangladeshi etc..] He is 17 and looks like 14, yeah he's going to blow himself up....

So they shouldn't check people who don't look like terrorists. Nice plan.

8. Learn to calculate! I only paid 9.95 Pounds for Mdm. Tausadds. LOL I gave her 30 Pound for a 24 Pounds Adult Ticket she gave me one 10 Pound Bill back, took 2 10 Pound Bills and returned me 10.05 Pounds...

This is a complaint?

9. Get rid of all those bloody french tourists! Sometimes I wondered wheter or not I am in London or Paris. There was a Tunnel of Horror at Tausaudds and everywhere you saw cowardic french teenagers pissing their pants...

We're working on getting rid of the German tourists first.

10. Cinema -> 11.75 Pounds!!!11 OLOL

London:roll:. The best cinema I ever went to cost four pounds with reclining, spaced out chairs and a full bar just behind. In London it would have cost fifty quid.

PS: London Bums are teh worst! They make a german bum look like a hollywood star! OHhh and I hate your sockets they are so big and ugly and have so many holes in it they remind me of a 40 years old prostitute.

They are the 40 year old prostitutes, all the bums were moved to Scotland.

[Shadow]

As an ambassador for Britain, I will attempt to address some of your concerns...

Wow you really took my post seriously. :) Thanks for your comments.
One thing I've to admit is that London is the cleanest city I have ever seen!

[Haiw]

Even though I have never been in the UK I have to agree with Shadow on some points

-Guiness IS piss. I finally decided to try it some time in some Irish pub here to see what all the fuss was about and it was one of the most dissapointing things in my life. It's just... weak. :|

-Your pubs close way too early. 11 PM? Geez... there've been days when we still had to go to the city at that time. Even 2 AM is still damn early to close... :( How can you guys live like that?


BTW, don't judge all kebab in a country by one vendor; even in my city alone there's some joints with AWESOME kebab and at least one that has something that hardly even resembles it that's how crappy it is. :|

[<Gypsum Fantastic>]

Wow you really took my post seriously. :) Thanks for your comments.

Well, some of them. ;-)

Just to make it clear, they don't ALL close at 11pm. If you want to close later you apply for a license. Basically you just put up some signs saying what time you intend to stay open (could be 24/7), if nobody complains withing 21 days, then you can do it. Most pubs will only stay open late on weekends, but I don't know any clubs which close at 11.

[Shadow]

I also had a "fight" with a 18 years old guy on speed molesting THE GIRLS that was awesome because he had absolute no reflexes and was a real sissy.
After some minutes of fooling him I carried him to the security....

[Captain Cabinet]

I'm a bit miffed with the pubs around my area, they haven't really taken advantange of the new drinking laws. Most only stay open for an extra hour for half of the week...

[DeltaWhisky58]

-Guiness IS piss. I finally decided to try it some time in some Irish pub here to see what all the fuss was about and it was one of the most dissapointing things in my life. It's just... weak. :|


I can only assume they heard you were coming an made a special brew. That comment would be enough to get you strung up in some places I can think of.

I don't know what you were drinking, but the real thing here in the UK, or better still in Ireland is certainly not weak.

[futurepilot2004]

I can only assume they heard you were coming an made a special brew. That comment would be enough to get you strung up in some places I can think of.

I don't know what you were drinking, but the real thing here in the UK, or better still in Ireland is certainly not weak.
:) beat me to it. I`m assuming he drank guinness in America because its weaker than water over there. The proper stuff is the exact opposite of weak.

[DeltaWhisky58]

:) beat me to it. I`m assuming he drank guinness in America because its weaker than water over there. The proper stuff is the exact opposite of weak.

A sure way to get killed - make an anouncement that Guiness is weak in a Dublin pub!

It not only isn't weak, but it makes Irishmen brave(er)! :-)

[wulfstan]

it might taste weak, but it certainly isn't. Drink five pints and come back to us!

[toki]

My best experience in London was puking in a Burger King bathroom. That was awesome!!! woot :|

[Haiw]

I can only assume they heard you were coming an made a special brew. That comment would be enough to get you strung up in some places I can think of.

I don't know what you were drinking, but the real thing here in the UK, or better still in Ireland is certainly not weak.


:) beat me to it. I`m assuming he drank guinness in America because its weaker than water over there. The proper stuff is the exact opposite of weak.

No, I drank it here in the Netherlands, and no I doubt it was a 'special brew' because the pint was given to me by an Irish friend in an Irish pub who gave me a pint 'to let me experience what real Guinness tastes like'.
So I guess it's safe to say they didn't give me toilet water. Even though that's largely what it tasted like; flavoured water. I'm not sure about the alcohol percentage, and quite frankly I don't care because..well.. it just tastes like water to me and I'd rather drink something with taste. And wulfstan, I'd pick you up on that offer easily if it wasn't for the lack of taste in it. But seriously... it really tasted like weak piss. Sorry... just my two dissapointed cents.

[pegasus]

atleast our women shave!! wanker bollocks

[DeltaWhisky58]

I find that amazing because Guinness - or any Irish stout - for that matter, is a very heavy and bitter drink. I hesitate to call it beer because it isn't - stout or porter is the correct description.

I know Holland fairly well and am familiar with your beers, I just don't see how Guinness can be described as week or watery in comparison. I can't compare it to week piss as I've never experienced that - the closest was Bud Lite! ;-)

[Shadow]

My "Guinness" only had 4.2 % Alcohol. German Beer has 5.6 - 7,6% in average.

My father once went out with some buisness partners of him ( British ) and they said " Want to drink good beer then let's got to XY Pub " but even there you got served water as beer according to my dad.

[DeltaWhisky58]

There is a great variety in stregnth of beer all over Europe - some go as high as about 12%, but not many. To be honest, I'm never too bothered about the stregnth, flavour is of greater importance.

I have to say that German, Dutch & Belgian beers are my favourite.

[Weasel]

My "Guinness" only had 4.2 % Alcohol. German Beer has 5.6 - 7,6% in average.
What? Average beer is a Pils and has 4,8 %.

[Johnny_H02]

None of ya have lived untill you have had

Alexander Keiths India Pale Ale ... nuff said !

[Shadow]

What? Average beer is a Pils and has 4,8 %.

Average beer is a Weissbier imho and Erdinger Weissbier has up to 7,6 %

[Weasel]

Average beer is a Weissbier imho and Erdinger Weissbier has up to 7,6 %
Weissbier average? Ok, all a matter of definition. :hug:

[Freibier]

None of ya have lived untill you have had

Alexander Keiths India Pale Ale ... nuff said !
No, thanks - drink your ****ing waterbeer yourself.
If you want good beer you either have to go to Germany or Czechia - everything else just doesn't compare.

[chaz89]

Last time in London was '91 (long time ago, right?), went to a club in Piccadily Circus (excuse me if I misspelled) and the drinks were like 10 pounds!!! It was a sh*tty club too, can't remember the name. Back then the exchange rate was $1.91 per pound and on a military salary made it even worse. Overall it was just great being in one of the truly world class cities.

[DeltaWhisky58]

Now this really is a pissing contest beyond compare.

As for what Freibier says - I'll go with that 100% bro ... ... woot

[DeltaWhisky58]

Last time in London was '91 (long time ago, right?), went to a club in Piccadily Circus (excuse me if I misspelled) and the drinks were like 10 pounds!!! It was a sh*tty club too, can't remember the name. Back then the exchange rate was $1.91 per pound and on a military salary made it even worse. Overall it was just great being in one of the truly world class cities.

Well, you couldn't have chosen a worse place to drink for a start. If you want to experience the real London, find the back street pubs where the locals drink. You chose the part of town where if you have to ask the price of anything you can't afford it.

On the other hand, I live about as far away from London as you can get and still be on the UK mainland, and I'm always shocked at the price of beer when I visit.

[oldsoak]

No, thanks - drink your ****ing waterbeer yourself.
If you want good beer you either have to go to Germany or Czechia - everything else just doesn't compare.

:lol:
- When you've drunk every type of beer in the Uk and Ireland, come back and say that. Our bitters and ales are distinctly different and you cannot compare them with continental larger beers. Theres loads of beers in France, Belgium, the Netherlands which are very nice - I've drunk very average lagers in Osnabruck, so not all German beer is fantastic. I will give you the point that a lot of our lagers are VERY average as well, crap in fact.
:-) .
Our original beers were brewed to around 7% or more, however, in the 19th century the Government introduced a tax on "strong" beers based on the specific gravity of the beer - resulting in brewers deliberately weakening the brew.

[Freibier]

I was referring to that canadian travesty that Johhny_H calls beer.
Guiness is ok in my book, Kilkenny is utter rubbish though - headache beer.
I know it's sick but I really like a Newcastle brown ale every once in a while :D


All that said, Weltenburger Klosterbier > every other beer, period!

[Shadow]

3. Are you guys so dumb that you have to write on the streets in which direction to look before you cross it ? There is also an arrow for those who can't read. OMG

It's because of the one way system in London not always being predictable to a pedestrian. Did you see anybody get run over? If not then it must be working.

Nor have I seen anyone getting run over by a car in Germany either... ;)

[Hydro]

London is a very mixed bag. Some places are absolutely brilliant, however it suffers from extreme overpricing to fleece the tourists. As has been said, you seem to have just done the complete tourist number and have got a distinctly average experience because of it.

[pegasus]

yeah if your silly enough to drink in the heart of london you deserve to get ripped off. london isnt for the poor!

[Greek soldier]

Basically I do admire London's means of transportations (buses, underground, suburban railway, black cabs). :)

And the CHinese and Indian restaurants ;)

[Johnny_H02]

Oh and Keiths is awsome lol ... you obviously have never had it.


ill make sure to post how wrecked i get when i go to england

[theholeinthedonut]

"Am deutschen Wesen soll die Welt genesen......"

[Freibier]

"Am deutschen Wesen soll die Welt genesen......"
x2 p-) so schauts aus

[pegasus]

x3 i translated it, all geman men take it up the arse.....

[cut]

Yep, there was also a sign "Don't be offended if you are asked to show your ID to prove your 21" or something like that.
you are a ****ing dumbarse

in the UK you can buy ANY alcohol you want at 18

the sign you are reffering to actually says "Don't be offended if you are asked to show your ID card if you are 21 or younger". It says nothing about 21 being the legal age, it just encourages people to continue carrying ID to prove they are over 18.


Also how the **** did you find a club that closes that stops serving at 11?
Guiness is ****, but then again it's irish.

[JesperAFCA]

I was last week in London, and Guiness...it even taste much worser then Heineken lol

(I was in a youth hostel on Leister Square, near Underground station Baywater)

[cut]

(I was in a youth hostel on Leister Square, near Underground station Baywater)
leicester square is not near bayswater

look click + view image (firefox)
http://www.tfl.gov.uk/tfl/images/Zonal-Map.gif

it's closer to paddington

[A Soldier]

I was in London last summer, what is with the clubs closing at 1am. and the pubs shutting down at something like 10pm. ????? I was dismayed by this, and immediatly flew to Munich to drink and dance with hot blonde German girls....:)

[pegasus]

pubs used to shut at 11pm now they go 24 hrs if they want. clubs used to shut at 2am at the earliest.. i think most of you are so pissed you dont know what your on about. you probably passed out as your not used to real beer!so you were tucked in by 10pm

[A Soldier]

you lie ,i've never seen them so they don't exist (i've never been to german but i still stad by my statement)
oh they are sooo there, my 2nd cousins are both over 5'10" and blonde they took me and my brother out and introduced us to all of their friends (not all blondes but I saw a bunch). One of the best times I ever had. Made the plane ride home to USA kinda feel like I left some of my heart in Germany.

[A Soldier]

pubs used to shut at 11pm now they go 24 hrs if they want. clubs used to shut at 2am at the earliest.. i think most of you are so pissed you dont know what your on about. you probably passed out as your not used to real beer!so you were tucked in by 10pm
Hey man I can drink it !!!!!!!!! haha
although my normal beer is this:

[California Joe]

Thank you for proving that American tourists aren't the biggest assholes on the planet.

[farmgirl]

Thank you for proving that American tourists aren't the biggest assholes on the planet.


good lord... I only got about 1/3 of the way through his post before I wanted to beat him down.... :roll:

[szr]

leicester square is not near bayswater

look click + view image (firefox)
http://www.tfl.gov.uk/tfl/images/Zonal-Map.gif

it's closer to paddingtonG'damn I hated that lame map. Useless. But I guess it's got to be that way to show the fricken fare zones. :bash:
And I'll never know how you guys live with the tube not being 24h, either. Being from New York, living with no subway at 3AM is like losing power in a t-storm. :fork:

Other than that, London's great! It's like NYC at half the speed. :hug:

[Count Lippe]

I've spent some days in London too, and the drivers were horrible. I've seen 3 crashes on the streets, one of them involving a scooter. Nobody seemed to care about this one... All of London is a rip off... I didn't spend any money there because I knew it's not worth it. Only spent some bucks at McDonalds and in stores where they charged average prizes.
The south of England was awesome though... Lots of green, nice coastline, friendly French tourists, pubs,... Only the towns seemed to be much dirtier and sometimes even decaying beyound East German standards...

[Fenna]

Come on guys if you wanted England to be as brilliant as Germany you should have tried harder in 1940

[Mr Gently Benevolent]

Thank you for proving that American tourists aren't the biggest assholes on the planet.Nah you guys as tourists are actually OK the American tourists that I meet in Scotland are usually polite and I get to meet loads of them as I am slap bang in the middle of Burns country / Golf Mecca.

[wulfstan]

All of London is a rip off... I didn't spend any money there because I knew it's not worth it. Only spent some bucks at McDonalds and in stores where they charged average prizes.

So you went to England and went to McDonalds, sheez! :roll:

[Apathy]

Er, do you not use the same number system as the rest of Europe? The £10 seems pretty obvious to me;
http://monety.banknoty.pl/banknotes/great_britain/GreatBritainP390a-10Pounds-2000_f.jpg

http://img112.imageshack.us/img112/8823/204on1.jpg

Ours is prettier. :3

[wulfstan]

http://img112.imageshack.us/img112/8823/204on1.jpg

Ours is prettier. :3

Negative. Yours are all the same colour and size. Nice and simple. Nice and simple. See what i'm getting at?:)

[Apathy]

Negative. Yours are all the same colour and size. Nice and simple. Nice and simple. See what i'm getting at?:)

That America is a evil and complex place. Am I close?

[wulfstan]

Nice and simple, nice and simple...

[Hawkeye]

Negative. Yours are all the same colour and size. Nice and simple. Nice and simple. See what i'm getting at?:)

KISS?



I actually liked London (alot) when I was there. It really is alive ...
My favourite was Camden Town though, everything cool available in the world could be found there, loved it!

[wulfstan]

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Since you've gone to the trouble of scanning this side do the other and print me off 1000 copies


OK, but you have to pay me £10,000 in legit notes.
PS; I didnt scan it, i googled it, i think if you scan a note normally you get loads of interference from the metal in it.

[Apathy]

Nice and simple, nice and simple...

America is a spawn of hell that eats babies for breakfast? Am I getting warmer?

[wulfstan]

Nah, they just like things 'easy', like driving everywhere on straight roads, all their shops under one roof etc...

[Count Lippe]

So you went to England and went to McDonalds, sheez! :roll:
Only in London... I seriously didn't eat much there, because English food is gross...:|

[Resurrection]

Only in London... I seriously didn't eat much there, because English food is gross...:|

You don't like fish & chips?

http://img275.imageshack.us/img275/5576/fishandchips6vc.jpg

[DeltaWhisky58]

Only in London... I seriously didn't eat much there, because English food is gross...:|

What a crass and totally ignorant remark! You judge the food in an entire country on a visit ... ...

:bash:

And that from a resident of the land of Sauerkraut and Currywurst - the gastrocapital of the world!

[<Gypsum Fantastic>]

I'm a bit confused by what people mean when they say 'British food'. I can only assume they mean fish and chips or a fry up. Try going to a proper British restaurant, we have easily the best chefs and the best restaurants you will find anywhere. I went to a few decently prices place in London which did excellent food.

This just seems to be another stereotype which is based on comparing British fast food to another nations restaurant food.

[Resurrection]

Try going to a proper British restaurant, we have easily the best chefs and the best restaurants you will find anywhere. I went to a few decently prices place in London which did excellent food.

What was on the menu?

[DeltaWhisky58]

I agree with you totally.

Britain has a large number of superb restaurants with a high level is Michelin starred chefs, yet we do not have a great reputation for food. Despite this true British food is excellent owing to the very high quality of ingredients.

What amazes me - and I think I am correct in saying this - is that Germany actually has more Michelin starred chefs than France, but try finding one. I have spent quite a bit of time in Germany and find the food to be fine if a bit unimaginative - but clearly the top class stuff is there if you can find it. Clearly I'm not talking about Curry wurst, Gyros or Frikadellen (sp?).


What was on the menu?

You can get anything from Alligator to Kangaroo if you know where to look - I've eaten both in London pubs (Covent Garden area) and both were excellent.

[eucalyptus]

This man inspired me to cook more.
http://www.bized.ac.uk/images/oliver.jpg
and her
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[DeltaWhisky58]

Jamie is a great lad - he received two British Film & Television Academy Awards last night! As for Nigella - well, she speaks for herself - Yum, Yum!woot

[Chuckie]

I agree with you totally.

Britain has a large number of superb restaurants with a high level is Michelin starred chefs, yet we do not have a great reputation for food. Despite this true British food is excellent owing to the very high quality of ingredients.

What amazes me - and I think I am correct in saying this - is that Germany actually has more Michelin starred chefs than France, but try finding one. I have spent quite a bit of time in Germany and find the food to be fine if a bit unimaginative - but clearly the top class stuff is there if you can find it. Clearly I'm not talking about Curry wurst, Gyros or Frikadellen (sp?).



You can get anything from Alligator to Kangaroo if you know where to look - I've eaten both in London pubs (Covent Garden area) and both were excellent.


x2. When I worked in London I ate at some great places in Chinatown, Soho and a few other spots. The food is just as good as what I'd find in NYC or anywhere else.

Count Lippe probably went to one of those Aberdeen Steakhouses or one of those other tourist trap restaurants near Piccadilly Circus and as a result thinks that all other restaurants are like that.

[Zarathustra]

Yeah when people hear "british food" they think of the damn fish & ships but it'd be like saying that America's best booze is bud. They have good breweries too if you know some good places.

UK has decent restaurants too, sometimes owned by French chief but you have to pay good pounds to eat there.

[DeltaWhisky58]

Exactly, but you don't get haute cuisine anywhere for kebab prices.

[pegasus]

id like you to tell gordon ramsey that, he will kick your arse! you cant beat fresh fish n chips down the coast either. you are probably a mcdonalds regular!

[DeltaWhisky58]

Well, I live on the NE Scottish coast and I'd have to agree with you - cooked properly, good fish and chips takes some beating. Just don't tell the cardiologist! :oops:

[toki]

I agree with you totally.

Britain has a large number of superb restaurants with a high level is Michelin starred chefs, yet we do not have a great reputation for food. Despite this true British food is excellent owing to the very high quality of ingredients.

What amazes me - and I think I am correct in saying this - is that Germany actually has more Michelin starred chefs than France, but try finding one. I have spent quite a bit of time in Germany and find the food to be fine if a bit unimaginative - but clearly the top class stuff is there if you can find it. Clearly I'm not talking about Curry wurst, Gyros or Frikadellen (sp?).



You can get anything from Alligator to Kangaroo if you know where to look - I've eaten both in London pubs (Covent Garden area) and both were excellent.

Actually i think germany "suffers" from the same prejudices as England.

Eisbein, Sauerkraut etc. are not our national dishes. It's just one form of country-style food, not too many people really eat. It's of course famous, but just a very simple food. Actually served in brewery style places, not in restaurants in general. I hardly like any of that fat brewery food.

Also forget the german-style restaurants in the U.S. they only represent that brewery- food. The better food is hardly that much different from french cuisine, not copied but genuine german. There aren't that strict borders when you compare french - german, german - austrian food. It's all grown over the centuries. The regions have specialties though.

The Michelin restaurants are extremely expensive, but you can find good restaurants everywhere, that normally don't have Sauerkraut, Eisbein etc. on their menu.

My favourite food is austrian anyway.

[Hawkeye]

What exactly is austrian food Toki?

[DeltaWhisky58]

Agreed - I've had superb food in both Austria and Germany, but also loads of the awful stuff you speak of. So many people associate what you describe as "Brewery Food" with Germany in general, when of course it is not.

When I first visited the Ahrtal/Eiffel are which I now know reasonably well, I was surprised not to find wurst and other things I expected to see on the menus, but I soon learnt that these things were not typical of Germany in general.

I've also found the same in other European countries - possibly the best restaurant I've ever eaten in was in a back alley in Amsterdam (no, not that sort of back alley). I always try and avoid the touristy restaurants, found a fantastic one in Barcelona a few years back which was cheap as you like, but the food was incredible.

you can and will find good food in London at a fair price, but you have to avoid the tourist traps.

Let's face it - the worst influence on world food bar none has come from the U.S., yet the U.S, also has some superb restaurants - or so I'm told.

[toki]

What exactly is austrian food Toki?
It's sometimes pretty sweet. Damn hard to describe in english, because it has all that genuine names.

Germknödel, Zwetschgenknödel, Kaiserschmarrn, Buchteln, Käsespätzle and some things that are not too different from german/southern german cuisine.

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[Count Lippe]

I agree with you totally.

Britain has a large number of superb restaurants with a high level is Michelin starred chefs, yet we do not have a great reputation for food. Despite this true British food is excellent owing to the very high quality of ingredients.

What amazes me - and I think I am correct in saying this - is that Germany actually has more Michelin starred chefs than France, but try finding one. I have spent quite a bit of time in Germany and find the food to be fine if a bit unimaginative - but clearly the top class stuff is there if you can find it. Clearly I'm not talking about Curry wurst, Gyros or Frikadellen (sp?).



You can get anything from Alligator to Kangaroo if you know where to look - I've eaten both in London pubs (Covent Garden area) and both were excellent.

I seem to have hit a nerve here... Once again, I didn't go to any restaurants in London, because I expected to pay more than I could afford as a studend back then. I wasn't that hungry anyway, because I made the mistake to try "English Breakfast" and didn't even think about eating for 2 days afterwards...:|

You can find good restaurants in most German town, (at least where I live) with good food, plenty of it, for a good prize. (Maybe too uninspired for the gourmets among us...:roll: ) Don't even ask me about a Michelin Chef restaurant. Most of them are in the south hidden in small villages...

Fish&Chips was quite OK, although I rarely eat anything which has less than 2 ingredients and fries in it (3 if you consider grease an ingredient). I'm more of a Döner Kebab man, which really seems to be low class food for piss drunk lads at night in England.

I have to repeat, I didn't have much money to spend so most of the time I bought food in supermarkets. I wasn't traveling alone, but from what I've heard most of my mates who went out to eat weren't satisfied with what they got...

Maybe German stomachs aren't suited for English food...p-)

[Freibier]

I never met a tommie or yank that didn't like bavarian cuisine.

[toki]

I never met a tommie or yank that didn't like bavarian cuisine.
I know Bavaria has alot more then "brauhaus" food, but you are bavarian. It's a bit annoying when you travel somewhere and all you see branded as german is actually bavarian.

*wartet auf 'nen Spruch* p-)

[Freibier]

Don't blame us for your inferiority complex, haha :-P

[toki]

Don't blame us for your inferiority complex, haha :-P
Peasant!

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[Sancho Pancho]

id like you to tell gordon ramsey that, he will kick your arse! you cant beat fresh fish n chips down the coast either. you are probably a mcdonalds regular!


How 'bout the deep fried Mars bars?

[DeltaWhisky58]

Sausage
Bacon
Fried Eggs
Hash Browns
Black Pudding
Fried Bread
Toast
Big mug of tea
Defibrillator
Air Ambulance
Cardiologist

What's English about hash browns - that's a pollutant to the traditional English/Scots/Irish fry-up from The United States of Seppoland who also gave us the last three - previously we died gracefully.


i'm one of the few english guys who likes haggis

And I'm one of the Jocks who ain't very keen - some are better than others, but I wouldn't go out of my way for any of them. A good Scots black pudding (much less fat than the English version) is far better IMHO.

[Hydro]

I'm Jockanese and I can't stand Haggis. I'm partial to a fry up at home every now and again, but any more than once a month and I get chest pains :)

However, when I'm away with the Green Machine, I eat it every day as I burn it off so damn quickly, you need the calories.

[toki]

I'm Jockanese and I can't stand Haggis. I'm partial to a fry up at home every now and again, but any more than once a month and I get chest pains :)

However, when I'm away with the Green Machine, I eat it every day as I burn it off so damn quickly, you need the calories.

A "fry up" in the morning gives me shudders. Anything with hot fat in the morning is really weird for me. Who has time for that anyway, and what about the mess? A slice of dark bread with butter and/or cheese, maybe an apple, and some mineral water or juice is fine with me. And healthier anway, but that's not even my point.

[Hydro]

A "fry up" in the morning gives me shudders. Anything with hot fat in the morning is really weird for me. Who has time for that anyway, and what about the mess? A slice of dark bread with butter and/or cheese, maybe an apple, and some mineral water or juice is fine with me. And healthier anway, but that's not even my point.



I have to emphasise "fry up" is more of a term just describing the meal in my case rather than the method of cooking. Sure it's usually fried in a crapload of fat traditionally, but I try to keep oil use to a minimum, mainly grilling items. I'm more a bagel and soft cheese guy in the morning when I'm on the go. After eating that however, I usually have to kill a small cat to reaffirm my masculinity ;)

At work with the Army however, yes it's fried in a collosal amount of grease and it's the staple breakfast of the British Forces :) However, in my line of work, the health issue isn't too much as you tend to burn it off by mid morning after your third "Twice round the parade square you shower of useless bastards" in NBC kit...

[Captain Cabinet]

I'm the same, love fry ups but can't really stomach one before 12

[Greek soldier]

In 2000 in London I ate Enlgish food cooked in black beer.... Cannot remember the name (the place was the same where Karl Marx was going to).

Had the same shape like this below, but inside there was meat (and was a bit larger)

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It was tasteful but burned my stomach. Any ideas for the name???

Plus, fish and chips are cool, but not recommended for every-day use (diabetes, cardiac problems) ;)

[Raptus_regaliter]

Karl Marx hung out and got drunk a lot at the Musuem Tavern, which is just across the way from the British Museum in Bloosmbury. That could be it.