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signatory
08-24-2006, 05:09 AM
lol Persson.
Btw here in Stockholm the traffic situation is terrible now! In a apparent manipulation by the Red/Greens to remind us of how nice it flowed during the congestion charge (tolls) trials that ended a few weeks ago.
Suddenly delayed road work (planned already in January but halted...) is happening all over the city and extra bus lanes is still there which create long Queues... On election day we're supposed to vote yes or no to the tolls.
sviiiiin!
signatory
08-24-2006, 05:48 AM
What we already knew but here it is again:
Utrikes- & säkerhetspolitik - Bör Sveriges försvar bli större eller mindre?
http://svt.se/svt/jsp/Crosslink.jsp?d=51613&a=623888
Resurrection
08-24-2006, 07:47 AM
lol Persson.
Btw here in Stockholm the traffic situation is terrible now! In a apparent manipulation by the Red/Greens to remind us of how nice it flowed during the congestion charge (tolls) trials that ended a few weeks ago.
Suddenly delayed road work (planned already in January but halted...) is happening all over the city and extra bus lanes is still there which create long Queues... On election day we're supposed to vote yes or no to the tolls.
sviiiiin!
Haha... luktar sabotage.
What we already knew but here it is again:
Utrikes- & säkerhetspolitik - Bör Sveriges försvar bli större eller mindre?
http://svt.se/svt/jsp/Crosslink.jsp?d=51613&a=623888
Finally, we get some straight answers. I'm quite surprised by the Greens' less radical tone actually - not one word about their beloved "civil defence" (apart from some weak hinting).
Resurrection
08-24-2006, 07:48 AM
This is what Greek soldier had to say about the Alliance's manifesto.
Manifesto full of contradiction.
1) You reduce the income taxes, but yet where are you going to find the funds to invest in environment and all these? I am sure you Swedes will pay more VAT to every product. Not to forget that the Swedish government has to pay the annual payments of the government bonds (which is some billions of US dollars)
About the language, that sounds actually like California. In other words, Swedish (which BTW is not an official language in Sweden, only de facto official) will become a minority language, like it is English in California.
Wow! Politicians are funny sometimes!
signatory
08-24-2006, 07:58 AM
The manifesto from both the alliance and the Social Dems is 27-30 billion or so SEK, the annual government budget is around 900 billion... so the change is not really that big. And the reform reserve is calculated at 25 billion.
So it's already financed. and won't add to the debt or other financial burden.
Not to forget that the Swedish government has to pay the annual payments of the government bonds (which is some billions of US dollars)
Here's the answer: http://di.se/Avdelningar/Artikel.aspx?O=RSS&ArticleId=2006%5c08%5c23%5c198435
I.e the Alliance want to sell out those state owned corporations that is not vital or hightly successful, for instance the loss-making SAS is one that will be sold. The money from this will be put against reducing the state debt. And thus lower the lending requirement and interest rates. The state is the largest corporate owner in Sweden so there's a lot to sell.
Greek soldier
08-24-2006, 08:00 AM
Actually, another source of funds which I didn't mention (p-) ) is increasing corporate taxes to a level where it will push companies lay off personnel, and also put taxation on stock dividends (like in the US).
I remember I read an article that Göran Persson wants to make Stocholm a financial centre "bigger and more influencial than Frankfurt". I guess the "Alliance" has no clue of what Economics is all about. Instead of being shortsighted, propose plans that will battle unemployment (which unofficially is somewhere between 20%-24%). That sucks!
Bear in mind that the Greek socialists (George Papandreou, he lived in Sweden for a while) are very fond of the Swedish Social System (they also have no clue about economics, hence that 22% of the Greek population lives in poverty!), and were ruling us from 1981 till 2004.
EDIT: Sorry in case some of my wordings sound a bit stupid. I don't know much for Sweden, but the tourists that come in Greece tell me stories that leave me with the mouth open. "Our economy sucks" some of them tell me all the time.
As for the state-owned companies being sold, take a look here.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UK_Miners%27_Strike_%281984-1985%29
PeterG
08-24-2006, 08:12 AM
What is 'state debt'? p-) - Sweden should start drilling for oil. Here in Norway, we have learned that this is a good idea. Good luck in the elections - and may the conservatives win! :)
signatory
08-24-2006, 08:13 AM
Actually, another source of funds which I didn't mention (p-) ) is increasing corporate taxes to a level where it will push companies lay off personnel, and also put taxation on stock dividends (like in the US).
They won't raise the corporate taxes. They will also remove corporate wealth tax (i.e robin hood tax), allow for delayed net profit taxation, introduce easing of investment money, introduce a government credit guarantee system for small businesses, cut employee taxation by 50% for youths and by 100% in other sectors in need of cheap labor, less regulation and administration to operate a business.
Btw, the most successful Swedish provinces is traditionally run by the Right wing.
Greek soldier
08-24-2006, 08:18 AM
They won't raise the corporate taxes. They will also remove corporate wealth tax (i.e robin hood tax), allow for delayed net profit taxation, introduce easing of investment money, introduce a government credit guarantee system for small businesses, cut employee taxation by 50% for youths and by 100% in other sectors in need of cheap labor, less regulation and administration to operate a business.
Btw, the most successful Swedish provinces is traditionally run by the Right wing.
1) The government credit quarantee is a very good measure, under the condition that the companies won't go bankurpt and let the central government pay the outstanding balance.
2) In almost all European countries there is a discussion of cutting by half the employee taxation (especially to labour-intensive sectors), but some are afraid of seeing the budget deficit skyrocketing. See, Joachim Almuña doesn't like such things. Eurozone...doh! p-)
As for the later, I fully agree with you signatory. The Leftist are becoming neo-liberals (Thatcherism)
signatory
08-24-2006, 08:20 AM
What is 'state debt'? p-) - Sweden should start drilling for oil. Here in Norway, we have learned that this is a good idea. Good luck in the elections - and may the conservatives win! :)
We have a oil field in the baltic! But it's 'only' a 200-400 million barrel "reserve" and not drilled (although Poland/Russia pump in the Baltic) We have forests and minerals as natural resources instead... but unfortunately the price of wood doesn't go up as soon as a terror arab sneezes... p-)
I am sure most house owners in Norway got loans too btw :)
kosse
08-24-2006, 08:32 AM
2) In almost all European countries there is a discussion of cutting by half the employee taxation (especially to labour-intensive sectors), but some are afraid of seeing the budget deficit skyrocketing. See, Joachim Almuña doesn't like such things. Eurozone...doh! p-)
Despite this "communism" Scandinavian countries have propably the best working societies in the world. I don't understand why some people want the US way. They have huge debt and serious problems in their society that don't exist here. Differences in the wages are huge and the poorest people own practically nothing. Lowest wages are also so small that they practically starve people. People in the streets etc. I don't see much glory in that. Best way is somewhere middle between right and left and that's the way we have been taking here and so far it has proven to be good. I rather pay 50% of my wage in taxes than live in a society like that. What I get after that is still more than what is needed to get around.
Weren't education free I would not even be studying so I like to think that the high taxation has some good sides too.
Greek soldier
08-24-2006, 08:42 AM
Despite this "communism" Scandinavian countries have propably the best working societies in the world. I don't understand why some people want the US way. They have huge debt and serious problems in their society that don't exist here. Differences in the wages are huge and the poorest people own practically nothing. Lowest wages are also so small that they practically starve people. People in the streets etc. I don't see much glory in that. Best way is somewhere middle between right and left and that's the way we have been taking here and so far it has proven to be good. I rather pay 50% of my wage in taxes than live in a society like that. What I get after that is still more than what is needed to get around.
Weren't education free I would not even be studying so I like to think that the high taxation has some good sides too.
We have these 2 things for almost 25 years. Our "Socialists" were treating the public money as being their own. As a result of this mismanagement, we ahave a central government debt of €226 Billion, or 108% of our GDP.
As for "free" education, yes, in Finland there is, but here in Greece is just a joke. Only some hippies still believe this.
kosse
08-24-2006, 08:55 AM
We have these 2 things for almost 25 years. Our "Socialists" were treating the public money as being their own. As a result of this mismanagement, we ahave a central government debt of €226 Billion, or 108% of our GDP.
Ouch. But you are getting over it and smarter in the future? I doubt the responsibility for the mischief is entirely on the "socialists"? At least here national budget is decided in parliament and no it's just not going to happen that "socialists" get to decide how the money is spent. Unless of course you had "socialist" majority there...in that case the responsibility lies with people. That would be most of the creeks wouldn't it? p-)
As for "free" education, yes, in Finland there is, but here in Greece is just a joke. Only some hippies still believe this.
It's only a matter of getting it to work. I don't understand how it's that hard in most countries. We don't practically have any private schools and still get best learning results in OECD countries.
signatory
08-24-2006, 09:04 AM
It's only a matter of getting it to work. I don't understand how it's that hard in most countries. We don't practically have any private schools and still get best learning results in OECD countries.
Still, a stronger homogeneous population in Finland than in most countries.
Swedish public schools score lower typically because children of immigrants can barely read the Swedish textbooks and can't find help from their parents either if they have homework...
Greek soldier
08-24-2006, 09:15 AM
Ouch. But you are getting over it and smarter in the future? I doubt the responsibility for the mischief is entirely on the "socialists"? At least here national budget is decided in parliament and no it's just not going to happen that "socialists" get to decide how the money is spent. Unless of course you had "socialist" majority there...in that case the responsibility lies with people. That would be most of the creeks wouldn't it? p-)
It's only a matter of getting it to work. I don't understand how it's that hard in most countries. We don't practically have any private schools and still get best learning results in OECD countries.
1) It was the socialists. They were borrowing and also printing money in order to to cover budget deficits. They were forecasting without even knowing what is "forecasting". We still borrow from the outside in order to pay our bloody civil servants (€17 billion for the payroll and the pensions!!!).
2) Here politicla parties go on tandem with the Academia. Hence the Greek Univerisites are bellow the bottom of the barrel, and most go to either in UK or USA.
Sthm that it isn't happening in Scandinavia.
You may have some bad things, but had you asked to work in Scandinavia or Greece, I would definately choose Scandinavia.
Swedish public schools score lower typically because children of immigrants can barely read the Swedish textbooks and can't find help from their parents either if they have homework...
You need to adopt the Greek model of "Frontistirion" or "alternative school". Here it is a serious business (annual turnover €300 million). I learned English and Italian at these schools rather in the public ones or from my parents.
kosse
08-24-2006, 09:31 AM
1) It was the socialists. They were borrowing and also printing money in order to to cover budget deficits. They were forecasting without even knowing what is "forecasting". We still borrow from the outside in order to pay our bloody civil servants (€17 billion for the payroll and the pensions!!!).
Well as I said someone elected those "socialists" there in the first place. :) Many of our leaders were unhealthily far in the left in their youth (soviet fanclub..) but it hasn't stopped them from making good decisions afterwards when they saw where it all led to.
2) Here politicla parties go on tandem with the Academia. Hence the Greek Univerisites are bellow the bottom of the barrel, and most go to either in UK or USA.
That's sad.
You may have some bad things, but had you asked to work in Scandinavia or Greece, I would definately choose Scandinavia.
You might want to reconsider that after seeing how much for example our government confiscates from your salary rofl
Greek soldier
08-24-2006, 09:36 AM
At least in Scandinavia I will be getting what I pay in return and not crappy hospitals, crappy pensions or crappy insurance from the Greek government.
Unless you want to get paid some €1,000 and get a pension of around €500 (the majority of our pensioners get between €400-600 = starvation levels).
And also, I don't need to pay money for schooling, raising a baby etc. And also pay more taxes year from year in order to pay the civil servants.
signatory
08-24-2006, 09:43 AM
You need to adopt the Greek model of "Frontistirion" or "alternative school". Here it is a serious business (annual turnover €300 million). I learned English and Italian at these schools rather in the public ones or from my parents.
Totally different. Anyway, I'm voting for sending our immigrants to Greece.
(Their parents are fvcking arseholes for not helping their kids to learn Swedish, and that help starts by learning it themselves the moment they set foot here. It's not like they are "too busy" to pick up a book.. they don't have jobs to go to.)
Greek soldier
08-24-2006, 09:47 AM
Totally different. Anyway, I'm voting for sending our immigrants to Greece.
(Their parents are fvcking arseholes for not helping their kids to learn Swedish, and that help starts by learning it themselves the moment they set foot here. It's not like they are "too busy" to pick up a book.. they don't have jobs to go to.)
I thought the Swedish governent was as serious as their Norwegian counterparts concerning the language. A Norwegian last May told me that every year the children of the immigrants sit for an examination in order to evaluate the level of the Norwegian language.
You should be strict on that matter. Unless you want to end up like a mossaic of foreign languages.
And no, don't bring them here! p-)
EDIT: Anyhow, this thread is about the Swedish elections. Not my intention to bring it way off-topic. ;)
kosse
08-24-2006, 09:55 AM
We have special classes for the immigrant kids. I've been working on one and it's hell for some 7-year-old. All they do is mathematics and learning language and just about nothing else. It takes about one year to learn enough of language and maths to be able to move to a normal grade.
signatory
08-24-2006, 12:01 PM
August 24 2006, Carl B Hamilton.
http://www.youtube.com/v/J9ZUpQQn7Ek
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J9ZUpQQn7Ek
Ref:
http://www.svd.se/dynamiskt/utrikes/did_13544540.asp
http://www.dn.se/DNet/jsp/polopoly.jsp?d=147&a=567629&previousRenderType=6
Resurrection
08-24-2006, 12:07 PM
So true... very strange decision but not unexpected.
signatory
08-24-2006, 12:09 PM
So true... very strange decision but not unexpected.
I have calculated back and forth and can't figure out the 80 man number at all... sigh, what a worthless gov we have. and media show the Visby class which is not ready at all. (the 5th is being launch today btw.. I want pics!)
Resurrection
08-24-2006, 12:11 PM
I have calculated back and forth and can't figure out the 80 man number at all... sigh, what a worthless gov we have. and media show the Visby class which is not ready at all. (the 5th is being launch today btw.. I want pics!)
Corvette + support ship's crew? I can imagine them working shifts as well.
signatory
08-24-2006, 12:15 PM
Corvette + support ship's crew?
That should be ~ 150 men... :|
btw http://www.4sjostridsflj.mil.se/im/index.php?lang=S&c=news&id=33542
...jaja maybe it's FNSU + a corvette instead of Visborg as support
signatory
08-24-2006, 01:45 PM
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Sverige tycks helt enkelt inte ha några sådana att skicka, vilket Eliasson på det hela taget medger.
- Nu behöver vi reagera med vad vi nu kan erbjuda, och då har vi denna patrullbåt, sade han.
Regeringen får stöd från riksdagspartierna för insatsen, men från alliansens håll hörs också kritik.
Folkpartisten Carl B Hamilton kallar det "fullständigt skandalöst" att Sverige inte har tillgänglig marktrupp.
Försvarsutskottets ordförande Eskil Erlandsson (c) anser att Sverige omedelbart bör inleda förberedelser för att också skicka marktrupp till södra Libanon.
http://www.aftonbladet.se/vss/rss/story/0,2789,876504,00.html
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M lovar trådlöst internet i hela Stockholm
Kravet på sänkt skatt står fast. Liksom kraven på minskat socialbidragsberoendet, höjd skolpeng, nedgrävda återvinningsstationer och förenklad tillståndsgivning. När oppositionsborgarrådet Kristina Axén Olin (m) på torsdagen presenterade partiets valmanifest för Stockholm var det många kända m-krav.
http://www.dn.se/DNet/jsp/polopoly.jsp?d=2390&a=567703&previousRenderType=2
(M)anifestet
• Kommunalskatten ska under nästa mandatperiod sänkas med 1 krona.
• Kommunen ska aktivt arbeta för att kommunala hyreslägenheter ombildas till bostadsrätter i ytterstaden. De köpare som inte får banklån erbjuds en "avbetalningsplan".
• Återvinningsstationerna ska grävas ner och stadens gator och torg ska spolas varje natt.
• Möjlighet att vara hemma längre med sina barn (kan betyda kommunalt vårdnadsbidrag om det blir lagligt).
• Stadens gamla ska fritt få välja äldreboende.
Stadens ska "skapa möjligheter" till moderna arenor för alla Stockholmslag .
• Det ska bli möjligt att koppla upp sig trådlöst på datorn överallt i Stockholm.
• Skärpta krav på socialbidragstagarna, som ska erbjudas jobb eller utbildning.
kosse
08-24-2006, 04:47 PM
Åådeååde ååde ååde ååååå. Jag heter bögen peter.
(Please use engelska. It would be nice to follow p-))
signatory
08-25-2006, 04:37 AM
After TV debate, the Christ Democrat (Kd) leader won public opinion.
Demoskop/Expressen (http://expressen.se/index.jsp?a=665570):
83 % of all Women say they think the Kd leader did good or very good in the interview.
78% of all viewers felt more positive towards the Kd after the interview.
Christ Democrat tried to 'infiltrate' (http://expressen.se/expressen/jsp/polopoly.jsp?a=665548)the Social Dems party office
A Kd candidate made a phone call to SSU - The Socialist Democrats Youth Party HQ but claimed to be working for them and asked about campaign info. The call was tracked back to Kd. She was fired from Kd Youth today. (http://svt.se/svt/jsp/Crosslink.jsp?d=37092&a=645624&lid=puff_645633&lpos=rubrik)
Resurrection
08-25-2006, 05:45 AM
After TV debate, the Christ Democrat (Kd) leader won public opinion.
Demoskop/Expressen (http://expressen.se/index.jsp?a=665570):
83 % of all Women say they think the Kd leader did good or very good in the interview.
78% of all viewers felt more positive towards the Kd after the interview.
I watched it and you could tell that he was very confident in what he had to say. Well done! It'll be interesting to see how much this will affect the polls.
Link (http://svt.se/svt/road/Classic/shared/mediacenter/index.jsp?d=55451&a=643200) to yesterday's questioning.
(http://svt.se/svt/road/Classic/shared/mediacenter/index.jsp?d=55451&a=643200)
signatory
08-25-2006, 05:47 AM
SIFO: 'Right-Wing Victory Best For Creating New Jobs'
Sifo/SVT (http://svt.se/svt/jsp/Crosslink.jsp?d=37092&a=645488) opinion poll of 1000 people:
46% think the opposition alliance would create more jobs than the sitting Red/Green Gov (33%).
Funny: More Green Party voters think the Opposition Alliance would do better (39%) than their own Red/Green Gov (36%).
Resurrection
08-25-2006, 05:48 AM
Heh, found this (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FfS-ukgRq7A) video.
http://www.youtube.com/v/FfS-ukgRq7A
What this has to do with politics? Good question!
signatory
08-25-2006, 05:50 AM
^ Jesus Christ fisted on a school bus..... Ah just wonderful.
Link to yesterday's questioning.
thanks, I missed it.
signatory
08-25-2006, 05:55 AM
SCB: Trade Balance lower than expected
2006-08-25: Nyhetsbyrån Direkt (http://di.se/Avdelningar/Artikel.aspx?O=RSS&ArticleId=2006%5c08%5c25%5c198763)
Handelsbalansen visade ett överskott på 12,2 miljarder kronor i juli, enligt SCB. Samma månad 2005 uppgick överskottet till 13,4 miljarder kronor.
Analytiker hade räknat med ett överskott på 13,9 miljarder kronor, enligt SME Direkts prognossammanställning.
"Särskilt USA-exporten har bromsat in, och minskade med 6 procent under andra kvartalet."
(Or what us amateurs would call; A (un)expected slowdown in the economy)
Storstark
08-25-2006, 01:08 PM
Åådeååde ååde ååde ååååå. Jag heter bögen peter.
(Please use engelska. It would be nice to follow p-))
Sä voit harjoitella ruotsia suomenpoika.
Kossua perkele!
signatory
08-26-2006, 01:52 AM
(S) suggest changes to the immigrant introduction-support law
http://www.svd.se/dynamiskt/inrikes/did_13555458.asp
Comment: Today, immigrants can receive compensation for attending voluntary integration programs such as Swedish-For-Foreginers. Already today the province can revoke this support if the immigrant don't follow the program. Jens Orback will suggest a change so that... eh... actually what he suggest is already in the law. :slap:
Current law: http://www.notisum.se/rnp/sls/lag/19921068.HTM
3 § Ett villkor för att introduktionsersättning skall få beviljas är att utlänningen förbinder sig att följa en introduktionsplan som fastställts av kommunen efter samråd med utlänningen.
4 § Om utlänningen inte följer den upprättade introduktionsplanen får kommunen bestämma att introduktionsersättning inte skall betalas ut för en viss tid eller att introduktionsersättning helt skall utgå.
Edit: But still the Left is sceptical to the "new" proposal. http://svt.se/svt/jsp/Crosslink.jsp?d=37092&a=646512&from=rss
signatory
08-26-2006, 04:28 AM
Poll: Close between the blocks - Both under 50%
SIFO/SVD (http://www.svd.se/dynamiskt/inrikes/did_13557343.asp)
The poll was done after the Social Dems presented their manifesto but before the Opposition Alliance had presented theirs. 1 248 were asked, 15.1% unsure.
Vänsterpartiet: 5,6 (-0,3)
Socialdemokraterna: 35,8 (+1,7)
Miljöpartiet: 6,0 (+1,5)
Summa vänsterblocket: 47,4 (+2,9)
Centern: 6,7 (+1,8)
Folkpartiet: 10,2 (-0,9)
Moderaterna: 24,3 (-4,3)
Kristdemokraterna: 6,5 (-0,5)
Summa Alliansen: 47,7 (-3,9)
Övriga: 5,1 (+1,2) = Sverige Demokraterna 2,6% (+)
Edit: Finally some info on how the cities do...
http://img167.imageshack.us/img167/2180/pollsifokn6.jpg
Also... only 13,67% of private businessmen would vote for the Red/Greens. lol
http://www.svd.se/images/ettan2006/060825/sifo_EXTRA.pdf
Resurrection
08-26-2006, 05:56 AM
(S) suggest changes to the immigrant introduction-support law
http://www.svd.se/dynamiskt/inrikes/did_13555458.asp
Comment: Today, immigrants can receive compensation for attending voluntary integration programs such as Swedish-For-Foreginers. Already today the province can revoke this support if the immigrant don't follow the program. Jens Orback will suggest a change so that... eh... actually what he suggest is already in the law. :slap:
Current law: http://www.notisum.se/rnp/sls/lag/19921068.HTM
Edit: But still the Left is sceptical to the "new" proposal. http://svt.se/svt/jsp/Crosslink.jsp?d=37092&a=646512&from=rss
Nemen... ställer (s) krav på invandrare? http://img220.imageshack.us/img220/4247/ohmycv2.gif
As I said earlier, the parties in parliament have noticed the steadily rising support for parties like SD. In an effort to seem "responsible", they come up with things like this to fish votes from the ever increasing crowd of immigration critics. In other words - they along with the other parties are being very tactical.
I thought this was interesting.
Jens Orback plingade på hos mej igår... (http://www.flashback.info/showthread.php?t=362016)
Helt plötsligt dök Jens Orback upp från trappen och presenterade sig. Jag visste naturligtvis vem han var sen förr. Han frågade mig om jag skulle rösta (tydligen har mitt område bland den lägsta röstfrekvensen i landet) och jag sa ja. Han tyckte det var bra och frågade lite tomma frågor t.ex. om jag trivs här osv.
Han frågade om jag hade några frågor. Jag antog att det inte gick att ta diskussion, som det så sällan gör.
Jag frågade om inte invandringen var en bra sak att skära ner på när samhället saknar resurser för t.ex. tandvård, ordentlig äldreomsorg, skola osv. Jag fick tillbaka en föreläsning om hur bra det är för äldre, skolungdomar osv i Sverige. Jag kontrade med att han inte kan förneka att man gjort nedskärningar vilket han höll med om. Han menade att man måste hjälpa folk bla bla. Jag förklarade att jag sett statistik på att den största delen invandrare är annhöriginvandrare. Jag blandade kritiken med lite pk-snack så att man inte skulle bli totalt utpekad som nazist/rasist osv. Tyvärr måste man ju göra det om man är kritisk till massinvandringen i dagens samhälle.
Jag förklarade vidare att jag tror integrationen skulle underlättas om man lät de nuvarande "nysvenskarna" integreras innan man tog in fler, och att man samtidigt skulle få mer pengar över att satsa mer på saker som man nu skär ner på. Han förstod min poäng men drog diverse pk-klyschor som att invandringen inte kostar så mycket egentligen och att man måste vara solidarisk osv.
Jag sa att jag tror invandringen kostar mer än man tror, men att jag naturligtvis tycker man ska hjälpa folk som riskerar livet i sitt hemland pga krig eller fel politisk åsikt. Jag menade däremot att större delen invandrare inte behöver beskydd utan snarare kommer pga att man kan leva ett rikare liv i Sverige.
Vi diskutterade lite på ett bra sätt även om jag tycker han inte gav några svar i stort sätt. Han menade indirekt att man inte vet exakt vad invandringen kostar och därför inte kan diskuttera det.
Jag försökte vinkla mina åsikter på ett så politiskt korrekt sätt som möjligt. Jag poängterade bl.a. att integrationen hos befintliga invandrare är viktig. Han häll såklart med om det, men inte om metoderna.
Hade i alla fall ett ganska bra snack och han verkade respektera mina åsikter. Vi skakade hand efter ca 5 min och gick vidare.
You can tell that he's aware of the problems, though to what extent - who knows.
signatory
08-26-2006, 06:12 AM
Nemen... ställer (s) krav på invandrare? http://img220.imageshack.us/img220/4247/ohmycv2.gif
S är nu officiellt rasister! rofl
Jens Orback plingade på hos mej igår... (http://www.flashback.info/showthread.php?t=362016)
You can tell that he's aware of the problems, though to what extent - who knows.
Man I don't know about Orback, he sounds like a airhead trying to just please the party without adding anything new. A snake. He was my local politican before Göran appointed him minister for issues he had NEVER worked with in the past... probably a real kiss ass
Jens Orback trodde själv på försvarsministerposten (http://www.di.se/Index/Nyheter/2004/10/29/122401.htm), men blev jämställdhets och storstadsminister.
:cantbeli:
-- Jag vill verkligen göra något åt kvinnors underordning, deklarerar han, därför är jag feminist (http://www.lund.sap.se/textfalt/Reportage/tuffOrback.htm).
signatory
08-26-2006, 07:33 AM
Saturday Poll #2: 'Alliance keep their lead' - both still under 50%
Temo (http://svt.se/svt/jsp/Crosslink.jsp?d=37092&a=646545&from=rss)
Unsure/no answer: 19,1 %
m 26,2 (-1,8) mp 5,2 (-0,1) fp 11,4 (+1,6) s 36,4 (-1,3) kd 6,7 (+1,3) v 4,8 (+1,2) c 5,5 (-0,6) övr 3,8 (-0,3)
Allians för Sverige: 49,8 %
Red/Green Coalitn: 46,6 %
Crankep
08-26-2006, 07:42 AM
I really hope the alliance wins, would be nice to see some changes, or at least how it can be with another party in power.
signatory
08-28-2006, 04:31 PM
Ah missed these :)
http://d.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/rids/20060822/i/r4068400827.jpg
Police arrest a protestor who disrupted a rally by Sweden's opposition coalition in Stockholm August 22, 2006. *******/Bob Strong (SWEDEN)
http://d.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/rids/20060822/i/r2011190973.jpg
Ugh. Cover yourself!
http://d.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/rids/20060822/i/r1452685418.jpg
Superking
08-29-2006, 03:42 AM
Dear me, who could that be? I thought when people got arrested they where detained.
Does any of these people have jobs? Beacause my boss would fire my ass if i was "abscent because of criminal activity" every odd day.
Cant we start a petition to have her shipped to N.Korea?
PrinzEugen
08-29-2006, 03:56 AM
Cant we start a petition to have her shipped to N.Korea?
Where do I sign?
Resurrection
08-29-2006, 04:18 AM
Pregnant woman dies after emergency calls ignored.
A pregnant woman has died in Västerås, northwest of Stockholm, after the emergency services failed to respond to several phone calls for help.
The 39-year-old woman and her husband were expecting their second child when she began to feel sick. The man called SOS Alarm at least twice for an ambulance over a recent weekend, but both times they were told, "Don’t worry, it’s just normal pregnancy symptoms," Aftonbladet reported on Monday.
On the Monday night they asked a neighbour to call SOS again. Still no help came.
http://www.thelocal.se/article.php?ID=4708
Skandal! http://img175.imageshack.us/img175/7309/crytu0.gif
Resurrection
08-29-2006, 04:20 AM
Stockholm police analyse suspected bombs.
Two suspected bombs were found outside the Swedish Defence Materiel Administration (FMV) in central Stockholm on Monday afternoon.
In an email sent to several Swedish media outlets the extreme left wing group Global Intifada claimed that it had placed a box with fire bombs outside FMV the night before.
The reason, said Global Intifada, was that FMV "actively buys weapons and military equipment from Israel".
http://www.thelocal.se/article.php?ID=4717
Edit: Just saw signatory's thread (http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/showthread.php?t=89892) in General Discussion.
Resurrection
08-29-2006, 05:53 AM
Cakes not good enough for bureaucrats.
With illegal immigration, some of the world’s highest taxes and a rapes and robberies causing allegedly chaos, the Swedish state has decided to go after a much more pressing danger: grandma’s cookies.
The battle over home-baked goods came about after the environmental health inspector in Mjölby Municipality, southwest of Stockholm, ordered the Christian café Källan to stop selling homemade sugar cookies, roll cakes and cinnamon buns.
“I would never follow such a dumb rule,” said Marianne Karlsson, a Centre Party municipal councillor. The café is non-profit and plays a very important social roll. The extra money goes to Christian groups and alcoholics’ care.”
http://www.thelocal.se/article.php?ID=4721
signatory
08-29-2006, 05:59 AM
^ That was already declared (http://svt.se/svt/jsp/Crosslink.jsp?d=22620&a=647463)a wrong interpretation of the law. There's no such rule. Just a very stupid environmental health inspector in Mjölby Municipality.
signatory
08-29-2006, 06:12 AM
Kommentar till Expressen...
"KVINNOKARLEN"
"Får högsta betyg av kvinnliga tv-publiken "
Och av kvinnorna tyckte hela 40 procent att Persson var bra eller mycket bra
Högsta betyg = 40% ? Sa inte då 60% att han var skräp?
Uppföljt idag av kampanj 'visa närhet med barn och skola':
Så tror barnen att Persson ska vinna valet : Ingen klasskamp när statsministern var i skolan.
Följt av :
"Upp för Persson, Reinfeldt ligger still : Så ligger partierna till just nu."
Allt för att ge en bild av en framgångsrik Persson... eller är det bara jag som ser saker kanske. :|
http://expressen.se/val/
Resurrection
08-29-2006, 07:30 AM
^ That was already declared (http://svt.se/svt/jsp/Crosslink.jsp?d=22620&a=647463)a wrong interpretation of the law. There's no such rule. Just a very stupid environmental health inspector in Mjölby Municipality.
My bad.
Allt för att ge en bild av en framgångsrik Persson... eller är det bara jag som ser saker kanske. :-|
And it's not only Expressen, SVT has jumped on the bandwagon as well.
Partiet tackar dig för dina insatser! (http://bubblare.se/partiet_tackar_dig_for_dina_insatser/)
signatory
08-29-2006, 08:08 AM
And it's not only Expressen, SVT has jumped on the bandwagon as well.
Partiet tackar dig för dina insatser! (http://bubblare.se/partiet_tackar_dig_for_dina_insatser/)
Fy fan! Aweful. Also TV4 really went after the M guy 2 weeks ago...
Det är inte första gången som moderaterna försöker smycka sin politik med lättklädda kvinnor. I julas skickade Göran Holm, kommunalråd i Vellinge, ett tecknat julkort med sig själv som tomte tillsammans med tre barbystade cancan-dansöser.
Tillställningen ska hållas på en nattklubb i Göteborg och gästerna lockas med lättklädda värdinnor och "hett badmode".
http://tv4.se/nyheter/val06/483270.html
Notice: only "hett badmode" is in quotation marks... everything else is TV4 opinion.
Don't miss this TV interview... http://webbtv.tv4.se/webtv/tv4/showContent.do?treeId=10037&progId=66258&itemId=0&cat=tv4_se.4600.91
(The male reporter btw.. spent all his summer following G. Persson as a side-kick reporter.. )
PS. http://www.dn.se/DNet/jsp/polopoly.jsp?d=1058&a=255006&previousRenderType=2
signatory
08-29-2006, 08:26 AM
'Stronger Economic growth if the alliance win'
"Högre tillväxt vid borgerlig valseger"
En seger för den borgerliga alliansen kan leda till högre tillväxt och inflation, skriver Föreningssparbanken i en konjunkturprognos.
http://www.dn.se/DNet/jsp/polopoly.jsp?d=678&a=568747&rss=1401
--
'Strong internal criticism against Persson'
Tung intern kritik mot Persson
Nu ställer Göran Johansson, Göteborgs kommunstyrelseordförande, till det igen för Göran Persson, Sveriges statsminister. http://www.dn.se/DNet/jsp/polopoly.jsp?d=2390&a=568684&previousRenderType=2
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'SEB-economists believe the Alliance will win the election'
SEB tror att alliansen vinner valet
SEB-ekonomernas grundtips är att det blir en borgerlig seger i valet till riksdagen den 17 september.
http://www.dn.se/DNet/jsp/polopoly.jsp?d=678&a=568755&rss=1401
signatory
08-30-2006, 06:24 AM
'Major flaws in the efficency at the unemployment office'
Persson's buddies AMS tried to stop it before the election, but The Swedish National Audit Office has now released the report (http://www.riksrevisionen.se/)on AMS the (un)employment office.
In 2005 they spent 67,7 Billion SEK. (Twice the military budget!)
The vaste majority of all jobs is filled outside AMS, and this number is getting worse. Of jobs actually distributed by AMS, five times as many were assigned to government programs and not to "real" jobs.
signatory
08-30-2006, 07:33 AM
A few notices before I'm out of here...
' Rottneros pulp factory move outside Sweden due to high energy prices'
http://www.dn.se/DNet/jsp/polopoly.jsp?d=678&a=569014&rss=1401
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' Healthcare to old people not good enough'
http://expressen.se/index.jsp?d=10&a=669994
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' Government want to ban foreign gambling firms'
http://svt.se/svt/jsp/Crosslink.jsp?d=22620&a=648764&from=rss
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' Alliance agree on a joint family policy'
http://expressen.se/index.jsp?d=2325&a=670035
Resurrection
08-30-2006, 09:11 AM
Thanks for the updates.
Don't miss this TV interview... http://webbtv.tv4.se/webtv/tv4/showContent.do?treeId=10037&progId=66258&itemId=0&cat=tv4_se.4600.91
If the club/restaurant was going to have that late-night program whether the campaign workers were there or not, then where's the problem? Not only that, but the program starts at 22.00 which was coincidently (?) the same time at which they were planning on being finished with the campaign. Pathetic attempt...
"Vad är det för kvinnobild du vill förmedla som politiker?"
:cantbeli:
' Rottneros pulp factory move outside Sweden due to high energy prices'
http://www.dn.se/DNet/jsp/polopoly.j...69014&rss=1401 (http://www.dn.se/DNet/jsp/polopoly.jsp?d=678&a=569014&rss=1401)
This is probably just the beginning too.
' Alliance agree on a joint family policy'
http://expressen.se/index.jsp?d=2325&a=670035
Don't like the idea of an equality bonus. Which party do you think came up with it? And doesn't "homo adoption" fall under family policy? I'll interpret their silence in that issue as an approval of the current legislation. http://img88.imageshack.us/img88/9937/rolleyesyi4.gif
A short overview of the joint family policy in English. (http://www.thelocal.se/article.php?ID=4738)
(http://www.thelocal.se/article.php?ID=4738)
Resurrection
08-30-2006, 09:35 AM
Alliance leads in new poll.
The opposition Alliance is still leading the Social Democrats in the race to form Sweden's next government, according to a poll published on Wednesday.
The survey by Synovate Temo for Dagens Nyheter shows that the Alliance was supported by 49.9 percent of those questioned, while 46.4 percent said they favoured the left-wing parties. The Alliance's lead of 3.5 percent is within the margin of error.
http://www.thelocal.se/article.php?ID=4730
signatory
08-30-2006, 02:35 PM
Don't like the idea of an equality bonus. Which party do you think came up with it? And doesn't "homo adoption" fall under family policy? I'll interpret their silence in that issue as an approval of the current legislation. http://img88.imageshack.us/img88/9937/rolleyesyi4.gif
Hm after thinking about it... it's a "bonus" in words only.. PR stuff. Effectively a way to lower the taxes of new families so there's more room for them to spend money... = higher gdp growth.
From what I can tell, the Alliance present solutions to major issues in the media... everything else is pushed to the side/ignored. Hägglund said during "pride" that he was against homo adoptions but I forget what the other ones said.... different for sure :)
Speaking of him... Man TV4, that reporter I talked about just interviewed Hägglund and said "it's not very serious to present a half-finished document is it?" and Hägglunds didnt' get a chance to explain himself... then they gave the final word to a radical left-party woman.. :roll:
khukuri
08-30-2006, 05:56 PM
Speaking of him... Man TV4, that reporter I talked about just interviewed Hägglund and said "it's not very serious to present a half-finished document is it?" and Hägglunds didnt' get a chance to explain himself... then they gave the final word to a radical left-party woman.. :roll:
you sound like the reporters are doing this to right wing people only, fact they were very hard on persson also. The video you linked to was ridiclious and selectiveof which parts it took. The least person I expected this stuff from was actually you...
signatory
08-30-2006, 06:56 PM
you sound like the reporters are doing this to right wing people only, fact they were very hard on persson also. The video you linked to was ridiclious and selectiveof which parts it took. The least person I expected this stuff from was actually you...
The video I linked to was the full interview.
What interview about Persson do you talk about ? He never participated in any interview with the reporters I linked to. Actually, I'd like to see a reporter fabricate news during a interview with Persson like they did to the Moderate politician.
You can not deny the fact that the media is heavily slanted towards the left. There's even only one conservative-independent newspaper on the national scene, and they (SvD) still report uncomfortable news concerning the righties. Instead of crocodile tears why don't you find some anti-left reporting by the general media that is unfair/inaccurate during this campaign.
Survey by Svenska Journalist Förbundet 1999.
http://img181.imageshack.us/img181/6172/journ2ar1.jpg
http://img181.imageshack.us/img181/5043/journ3xd7.jpg
http://img181.imageshack.us/img181/5080/journ4af0.jpg
signatory
08-30-2006, 07:33 PM
Fvck yeah.
http://img166.imageshack.us/img166/4305/sthlmyi1.jpg
signatory
08-31-2006, 07:30 PM
Warning: RUAB poll.
Socialdemokraterna förlorar mark i rasande takt i DI/Ruabs senaste opinionsundersökning. Partiet tappar 4,9 procentenheter och är nu nere i 35,5 procent. Förändringen är statistiskt säkerställd. Den borgerliga alliansen har nu ett övertag med 2,9 procentenheter. Hela mätningen (förra mätningen inom parentes):
m 30,2 (+1,1) mp 5,1 (+0,5) fp 8,8 (+0,1) s 35,5 (4,9) kd 5,8 (+0,8) v 6,3 (+1,7) c 5,0 (0,1) övr 3,3 (+0,7)
Andelen osäkra väljare är fortfarande hög - 29 procent av de 2 067 som intervjuades under perioden 20 augusti till 30 augusti.
Allians för Sverige 49,8 % vs 46,9 % Rödgröna
http://svt.se/svt/jsp/Crosslink.jsp?d=22620&a=650337&lid=senasteNytt_275956&lpos=rubrik_650337
http://www.svd.se/dynamiskt/inrikes/did_13589628.asp
Flashback:
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Ruab poll 12-22 Augusti
s 40,4 procent (+3,2 jämfört med junimätningen), v 4,6 (-0,9), mp 4,6 (-1,7), m 29,1 (-1,3), fp 8,7 (+0,3), c 5,1 (+0,1) och kd 5,0 (+0,3).
Allians för Sverige 47,9 % vs 49,6 % Gov
Of 2 110 asked: 1272 gave a party. 690 unsure, 80 won't vote, 68 blanks
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khukuri
09-01-2006, 08:51 AM
You can not deny the fact that the media is heavily slanted towards the left. There's even only one conservative-independent newspaper on the national scene,
Lol the fact is the exact opposite. The media in this election have been hunting every single socialdemocrat. I have been clearly pro right.
The funniest thing you write is the bull**** that the theresonly one conservative newspaper in sweden. Actually most of the newspapers belong to the right.
Storstark
09-01-2006, 12:11 PM
Maybe the papers, but not the journalists. The only paper with a conservative editor is SvD (DN is abit blended, liberal maybe). All others are heavily slanted to the left. They may call them selfs politically neutral or liberal, but as always, objectivity is a non-existent thing.
http://www.svensklinje.com/frame/nr/2004.4/artiklar/sid72.html
Resurrection
09-01-2006, 12:16 PM
Dyrare alkoläsk ska stoppa ungdomsfylla.
http://img.aftonbladet.se/nyheter/0609/01/cider210.jpg
Regeringen vill höja skatten på alkoläsk och cider med två kronor flaskan. Detta sedan en alkoholutredning visar att alkoläsk kan vara en inkörsport till alkohol för ungdomar. Systembolaget tycker att förslaget är bra – men vill ha ännu högre skatt.
http://www.aftonbladet.se/vss/nyheter/story/0,2789,880610,00.html
Hands down one of the most absurd (s) proposals yet, and that's saying quite a lot. I just don't understand their thinking process... When will they understand that oppressive taxing policies aren't always the solution? http://img528.imageshack.us/img528/7610/cryon1.gif
Resurrection
09-01-2006, 12:20 PM
signatory's latest post in English.
Social Democrats' support dips.
The Social Democrats are losing ground fast in the race to form the next government, according to a new poll.
Göran Persson's governing party's rating in a Ruab poll in Friday's Dagens Industri was down 4.9 percentage points to 35.5 percent, a statistically significant fall.
http://www.thelocal.se/article.php?ID=4754
Resurrection
09-01-2006, 12:26 PM
Schyman enlists Fonda in campaign.
Sweden's feminist party, the Feminist Initiative, has enlisted the help of actress and activist Jane Fonda and ****** Monologues writer Eve Ensler, as it tries to get elected to the Riksdag in elections in September.
The two American feminists will come to Stockholm on September 15th and 16th, immediately before election day on 17th September, and will appear at public meetings in support of the party.
Gudrun Schyman, spokeswoman for the Feminist Initiative, said the two women had volunteered to help. She said she believed that the high recognition factor would help the party.
http://www.thelocal.se/article.php?ID=4748
Resurrection
09-02-2006, 07:51 AM
Poll: Swedish election too close to call.
With Sweden's general election 15 days away, Prime Minister Göran Persson's Social Democrats and their parliamentary allies are neck-and-neck with the centre-right opposition, a poll published on Saturday showed.
The four-party opposition alliance, headed by the leader of the conservative Moderate Party Fredrik Reinfeldt, would garner 48.1 percent of voter sympathies, the Sifo survey in daily Svenska Dagbladet showed.
The Social Democrats and their allies, the Left party and the Greens, were credited with 47.4 percent of voting intentions.
http://www.thelocal.se/article.php?ID=4767
eucalyptus
09-02-2006, 08:32 AM
Any websites out there that summarizes each parties campaign promises and changes if elected?
Resurrection
09-02-2006, 09:07 AM
Any websites out there that summarizes each parties campaign promises and changes if elected?
Yeah, I've been working on updating the first page and I think I'll be done by tomorrow some time during the afternoon. So stay tuned...
Resurrection
09-02-2006, 08:10 PM
SD-kuriren (http://www.sdkuriren.se/blog/index.php/soder/2006/09/02/tv4_nyhetsmorgon)
I TV4:s Nyhetsmorgon på lördagen satt Expos Daniel Poohl och journalisten Cristoph Andersson och talade om bland andra Sverigedemokraterna. Givetvis klumpades partiet ihop med obskyra partier som ND och NSF, men det riktigt uppseendeväckande är att ingen representant från de partier som man diskuterar får vara med i studion och bemöta anklagelserna som förs fram.
Jag kan inte tänka mig många andra länder - förutom öppna diktaturer - där man låter politiska motståndare sitta och beskylla partier för olika saker utan att låta partierna få försvara sig. I Sverige strider förfarandet mot de pressetiska reglerna men vid tidigare fall när detta anmälts till Granskningsnämnden har nämnden i samtliga fall valt att inte gå vidare.
Tänk er en representant från en moderat partiblaska sitta i studion och beskylla socialdemokraterna för något utan att en socialdemokrat får vara med och svara för sig. Den situationen existerar inte.
I dagens Nyhetsmorgon lät man Expos chefredaktör Daniel Poohl sitta och beskylla Sverigedemokraterna för att vara ett rasistiskt parti. Expo är finaniserad av riksdagspartierna med syfte att motarbeta bland andra Sverigedemokraterna. Det är således inte tal om någon objektiv tidning som bedriver en seriös verksamhet, utan verksamheten är ren partipolitisk för att gynna "riksdagpartiet" (med de sju falangerna).
http://img112.imageshack.us/img112/4441/rolleyesoy9.gif
khukuri
09-04-2006, 12:03 PM
Press officer behind Liberals' computer scandal
Published: 4th September 2006 16:50 CET
Online: http://www.thelocal.se/article.php?ID=4781
The 24 year old employee of the Young Liberals who admitted to gaining unauthorized access to the Social Democrats' internal computer network was the organisation's press officer, Per Jodenius, it has emerged.
"We now confirm that it is him," said the Liberal Party's chief of staff, Helena Durssen, to TT on Monday afternoon.
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Jodenius is 24 years old and lives in Stockholm. He is an elected representative in the party and in 2004 was a candidate for the European parliament.
According to the report made to the police by the Social Democrats, the computer company Sentor discovered that three user accounts were used to log in to the system when the real account holders were clearly not logged in.
One of the account holders had access to all the secret information about party strategy and election planning. This account was access from an IP address owned by an IT company linked to the Liberal Party.
In the police report it was also stated that there was a failed attempt from the same IP address to access the Social Democrats' internal system.
Per Jodenius admitted on Monday that he had used private log in details to access the Social Democrats' system. But according to the newspaper Expressen, those details were supplied by a Social Democrat Youth worker in Skaraborg.
Jodenius has been fired from his role in the party and a technical investigation has been launched by the Liberals.
The leader of the Liberal Party, Lars Leijonborg, denied that the party leadership had known anything of the unauthorized access to the Social Democrats' system, or that the information had been used the party's advantage.
He said he was only informed of the matter on Sunday evening.
"We take what has happened very seriously," said Leijonborg at a press conference on Monday.
"I can only express regret that a party colleague has done something so ill-judged."
Leijonborg said that he had tried to contact prime minister Göran Persson to apologise, without success.
Leijonborg strongly attacked the Social Democrats when it was revealed that a senior party official had sent anonymous hate mail to the leader of the Moderates, Fredrik Reinfeldt, calling that a "low water mark".
"This is also a real low point," said Leijonborg.
Prosecutor Maria Häljebo from the City prosecution office in Stockholm will lead the investigation into the affair.
"Various people will now be questioned and there will be a number of house raids to check computer logs," she said.
Häljebo added that the case would prioritised since it is linked to the approaching election. But she did not say how long the investigation would take.
Jodenius claims that he stopped using the log in details in March, because it was playing on his conscience, according to a press release. He said that he had acted on his own initiative and that only he had had access to the log in details.
But the Social Democrats' treasurer Tommy Ohlström stated at an overnight press conference that the latest access happened only last week.
The 24 year old was said to be able to see secret information about Social Democrat strategies, plans for the election campaign and information from the security police.
"Our computer systems have been illegally accessed. It was widescale, systematic and has been going on for a long time," said party treasurer Tommy Ohlström, at an overnight press conference.
Johan Jakobsson said he had no idea what the political consequences could be.
"First and foremost, we're focused on establishing all the facts."
The Social Democrats' treasurer Tommy Ohlström stated that between January and March of this year, the party's computer systems were illegally accessed 78 times.
TT/The Local
Resurrection
09-04-2006, 01:53 PM
The troops in Liberia have begun voting.
http://www.mil.se/int/images/local/060803_val_1.jpg
Personnel chief Peter Wallström explains how to vote
http://www.mil.se/int/images/local/060803_val_3.jpg
http://www.mil.se/int/images/local/060803_val_2.jpg
http://www.mil.se/int/images/local/060803_val_4.jpg
http://www.mil.se/int/index.php?lang=S&c=news&id=33694&ncid=424
I'm still working on updating the first page...
Resurrection
09-04-2006, 02:58 PM
Greens snub eco-cars.
Sweden has an international reputation for being environmentally progressive. With two weeks to go before elections, it turns out only a very small percentage of those politicians registered at Parliament actually have an eco-friendly car – and Green Party politicians are most likely to have a polluting old car.
Although ethanol, biogas and hybrids have been big sellers in Sweden the past few years, of the party leaders only Centre leader Maud Olofsson owns one.
http://www.thelocal.se/article.php?ID=4778
The hypocrisy is big with this one.
Resurrection
09-06-2006, 10:30 AM
For those who are interested...
Fredrik Reinfeldt vs. Göran Persson tonight at 21:00 on TV4.
http://www.tv4.se/nyheter/val06/485026.html
eucalyptus
09-06-2006, 10:37 AM
For those who are interested...
Fredrik Reinfeldt vs. Göran Persson tonight at 21:00 on TV4.
http://www.tv4.se/nyheter/val06/485026.html
Great time to pick a "top" political debate when the game is on tonight
signatory
09-06-2006, 11:30 AM
Great time to pick a "top" political debate when the game is on tonight
The question is, which one will be the least boring to watch?
Collection of polls: Notice "Folkpartiet rasar".... right? ... sure, when they compare to their all-time-high of 11.5% ...
http://img318.imageshack.us/img318/8715/fppsa8.jpg
signatory
09-07-2006, 02:11 AM
Demoskop monthly
maj | juni | juli | aug | sept
48.8 | 49,8 | 44,3 | 45,8 | 45,6
47,9 | 47,3 | 51,5 | 50,4 | 49,9
http://static.tv4.se/images/database/FileStorage/Nyheterna/nyheterna/faeccc6b-7f46-4381-b79f-ee976be36b76.pdf
signatory
09-07-2006, 07:25 AM
http://img181.imageshack.us/img181/3172/fprx4.jpg
Resurrection
09-07-2006, 08:01 AM
Liberal support in freefall.
Support for the Liberal party has fallen dramatically in a new poll - despite the fact that the poll was taken largely before the scandal broke over Liberals breaking into the Social Democrats' network.
A new Sifo poll for Svenska Dagbladet gives the party 7.6 percent support - its lowest rating in four years. The figure represents a fall of 3.9 percentage points since the last Sifo poll, released on Saturday.
http://www.thelocal.se/article.php?ID=4812
Resurrection
09-07-2006, 08:10 AM
http://img172.imageshack.us/img172/2690/7bc797a9d5902a4d61a458494c7cc5a60c7dnx8.jpg
The Local reviews last night's leader debate.
http://www.thelocal.se/article.php?ID=4810
Succé för Reinfeldt.
http://www.aftonbladet.se/vss/val2006/story/0,2789,881433,00.html
http://www.tv4.se/nyheter/val06/487704.html
http://www.expressen.se/expressen/jsp/polopoly.jsp?a=677027
http://img124.imageshack.us/img124/9352/dnvaldebattvk7.jpg
And in case anyone missed it:
http://tv4.se/player/categories.aspx?progId=70020&itemId=&treeId=1011&displayTreeId=
signatory
09-07-2006, 08:27 AM
Liberal support in freefall.
Hmm... this poll tells a different story.
Yeah. the one I posted is from all polls, as you can see they have natural dips to about 8.5 and highs to 11 several times all in the last 3 weeks.
Demoskop put them at 8.0 two months ago.. today (http://www.temo.se/upload/326/valjbsamtliga.htm)they put them at 11.3... (interviewed 29 aug - 5 sept)
OldRecon
09-07-2006, 08:31 AM
Fy fan! Aweful. Also TV4 really went after the M guy 2 weeks ago...
Notice: only "hett badmode" is in quotation marks... everything else is TV4 opinion.
Don't miss this TV interview... http://webbtv.tv4.se/webtv/tv4/showContent.do?treeId=10037&progId=66258&itemId=0&cat=tv4_se.4600.91
(The male reporter btw.. spent all his summer following G. Persson as a side-kick reporter.. )
PS. http://www.dn.se/DNet/jsp/polopoly.jsp?d=1058&a=255006&previousRenderType=2
You don't happen to have a link to a vid of "Boring Persson" on a porrklubbvisit with tabledancing girls in "hett badmote" :lol: ?
Otherwise there's a allmost a tradition on your side of the keel with kommunalrådsbesök to such establishments :lol:. Often with attempts at having the local council paying for the expenses rofl.
Though I don't remember a particular case of such, I'v grown up with access to SVT broadcasts, and can remember the airing of such cases as far back as in the 1970's :lol:
Say whatever you want about Boring Persson, but Carl Bildt wasn't exactly my idea of likeable guy back in the days either.
Superking
09-07-2006, 09:20 AM
.....Say whatever you want about Boring Persson, but Carl Bildt wasn't exactly my idea of likeable guy back in the days either.
Carl was funny as hell, watch him crush this hippie sway attempt.
http://svt.se/svt/road/Classic/shared/mediacenter/index.jsp?d=43164&a=471654
Resurrection
09-07-2006, 02:24 PM
Leijonborg's evening of destiny.
Liberal Party leader Lars Leijonborg reckons he got lucky when he was picked to be the last of Swedish Television's pre-election leader interviews.
It means that on Thursday evening he has the chance to win back the public confidence that has been lost since the scandal broke over Liberals breaking into the Social Democrats' network.
http://www.thelocal.se/article.php?ID=4818
Resurrection
09-07-2006, 07:53 PM
http://www.nmi.se/pdf/nmi_tv.pdf
Nästan två tredjedelar av frågorna i SVT:s partiledarutfrågning ställs från ett vänsterperspektiv. Briefing paperförfattarna Aaron Israelson och Fredrik R Krohnman har granskat alla de frågor som Marianne Rundström och Mats Knutson ställt i de *** första utfrågningarna. 64 procent av frågorna av socioekonomisk karaktär hade antingen en statligt inriktad formulering eller värdeladdning, medan endast 36 procent hade en marknadsinriktad värdeladdning eller formulering.
http://img387.imageshack.us/img387/1244/evilgrin39cg3.gif
signatory
09-07-2006, 09:34 PM
http://www.nmi.se/pdf/nmi_tv.pdf
http://img387.imageshack.us/img387/1244/evilgrin39cg3.gif
rofl
http://svt.se/content/1/c6/59/53/45/fri-television-hoger-vanster.asx
http://www.expressen.se/index.jsp?a=677703
so who's for the win and what does he want to do with the Swedish military?
signatory
09-08-2006, 05:32 AM
so who's for the win and what does he want to do with the Swedish military?
Too close to call... we can get two polls the same day show different winners.. the right-wing block want to spend a bit more on the military and increase international missions and equipment for that force. The other side (sitting) haven't said anything but they have defense-hostile parties in their block and have cut spending in the past. So...
I think most guys here hope the Right-W block will win p-)
signatory
09-08-2006, 08:25 AM
http://www.halmstad.mil.se/index.php?lang=S&c=news&id=33716
Ny ändring av sändningsdag!
Inslaget om värnpliktiga förstagångsväljare som filmades av SVT på FMTS kommer troligtvis att sändas fredagen den 8 september på SVT2 Aktuellt kl. 2100.
Moderater bestulna på datorer
Två datorer stals från moderaternas expedition i Västerås natten till fredagen. På datorerna fanns hemligt kampanjmaterial för moderaternas ungdomsförbund.
Stölden inträffade strax efter midnatt natten till fredagen. Från datorerna kunde den som är litet duktig under flera timmars tid koppla upp sig direkt på hela moderaternas intranät via två konton. De stängdes dock av vid tiotiden på förmiddagen. Kvar på datorerna finns nu moderata ungdomsförbundets kampanjmaterial inför slutspurten i valet.
...
Han vill inte spekulera vem eller vilka som ligger bakom inbrottet eller om kampanjmaterialet kommer att användas mot förbundet.
...
Polisen har lagt ned utredningen med hänvisning till att de inte kunnat säkra tillräckligt mycket spår på platsen. Det enda som finns är ett fotavtryck och det räcker inte, enligt polisen. En speciell underättelsegruppen undersöker dock om det behövs särskilda poliära åtgärder i fortsättningen av MUF:s kampanj i Västmanland på grund av stölden.
http://www.dn.se/DNet/jsp/polopoly.jsp?d=2390&a=571289&previousRenderType=14
Short translation: The moderate party (right) got a couple of computers stolen which included campaign material and allowed acces to their Intranet for several hours, the police shut down the invesigation due to lack of evidence.
So...
The social democrats have a security breach = full police investigation.
The moderates have a security breach = investigation closed down.
Resurrection
09-08-2006, 02:37 PM
'Make posh people integrate' - Ohly.
The white upper classes need to integrate with the rest of Sweden, Lars Ohly has said.
Posh, white Swedes live in areas that are at least as segregated as immigrant suburbs, the Left Party leader told supporters at one of the party's election stands in the up-market Östermalm area of Stockholm on Friday.
He says that Sweden's integration policy should be scrapped.
"It has focused on the idea that the suburbs are the problem. But the problem is the class-ridden society - and the class-ridden society has got a skin colour," Ohly said.
Östermalm is one of Sweden's most ethnically homogenous areas, Ohly argues. The Left Party has compared Östermalm to the immigrant suburb of Rinkeby in northern Stockholm, and noted major differences in education, employment, health and housing. In all categories, Östermalm is streets ahead.
http://www.thelocal.se/article.php?ID=4828
signatory
09-09-2006, 12:28 AM
Shiite Grand Ayatollah on the Swedish election
I.e Shiite Grand Ayatollah Ali al-Sistani, Iraq's most respected cleric urged people to go vote and in not so many words gave support to Goran Rahbi (http://www.folkpartiet.se/FPTemplates/PersonalPage____35434.aspx)a Folkpartiet candidate in Malmö.
SVT Sydnytt Videolink (http://svt.se/svt/road/Classic/shared/mediacenter/player.jsp?d=35496&a=384028)
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Alliance in narrow lead despite a drop to Fp support
48.4% vs 47,1%
http://www.dn.se/DNet/jsp/polopoly.jsp?d=2390&a=571383&previousRenderType=6
..
Ps. Jag tror alla dessa undersökningar grovt underskattar ungdomsrösterna. De ringer ju bara landlinor dessutom..
signatory
09-09-2006, 04:46 AM
Maktskifte På G i Stockholm:
http://www.svd.se/images/ettan2006/060909/sthsifo_339.jpg
Alliansen är störst i Stockholm. 1000 intervjuer genomförda 4-6 september 2006. Copyright Sifo och SvD-GP-SkD
http://www.svd.se/dynamiskt/inrikes/did_13638779.asp
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Poll 2 Sifo/SvD:
Narrow lead for the Red Green coalition
47,1% vs 48,2%
fp @ 9,4 %.
http://www.svd.se/dynamiskt/inrikes/did_13638770.asp
signatory
09-09-2006, 05:34 AM
OT but a lol. same pic, different presentation...
http://img156.imageshack.us/img156/9332/hahl2qd0.th.jpg (http://img156.imageshack.us/my.php?image=hahl2qd0.jpg)
jaja.. dax att gå och köpa lördagsöl...
Resurrection
09-09-2006, 12:26 PM
Thanks for the updates.
http://www.sr.se/cgi-bin/stockholm/nyheter/artikel.asp?artikel=934896
Islamiska kulturföreningen i Skärholmen i södra Stockholm vill bygga en moské och har frågat kommunen om det finns mark för detta. Föreningen sitter i för trånga lokaler, precis som flera andra muslimska föreningar.
Frågan har hamnat mellan stolarna hos tjänstemännen i Stadshuset, men nu ska vi lyfta upp den, säger gatu-fastighetsborgarrådet Leif Rönngren.
Han hoppas att beslut om den tänkta moskén i Skärholmen kan komma före årsskiftet.
Även moderaten Rolf Könberg, säger att han och den övriga borgerliga alliansen kommer att jobba hårt för att kulturföreningen i Skärholmen ska få mark till en moské.
For the English speakers:
The Islamic Cultural Association wants to build a mosque in Skärholmen (south Stockholm) and the Moderate politician Rolf Könberg says that he along with the rest of the "right-wing" alliance fully support this and will work hard to make sure that they carry through with the construction.
signatory
09-10-2006, 04:48 AM
SIFO (http://www.gp.se/gp/jsp/Crosslink.jsp?d=600&a=295546)
Det borgerliga : 47,5
Vänsterblocket : 46,9
PARTIERNA
Vänsterpartiet : 6,5
Socialdemokraterna : 34,4
Miljöpartiet : 6
Folkpartiet : 9,6
Centern : 6,4
Kristdemokraterna : 7
Moderaterna : 24,5
Övriga : 5,6
Ej röst: 14.5
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I.e the trend after the Fp scandal: Fp is up 2.0% after the "free fall" article.
The Red/Green side (mostly S) is losing some support to Blank votes. Due to this the alliance take a tiny lead in Sifo for the first time in 3 days.
yeyeyeye one more week of this BS :) May the least shi-tty win...
val06sverige
09-10-2006, 06:43 AM
I had an oversight about this thread about the Swedish politics. I think visitors to this thread maybe interested in this one, too. http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/showthread.php?t=90890
signatory
09-10-2006, 08:59 AM
http://www.expressen.se/index.jsp?d=2325&a=679571
Leijonborg i brunskjorta
MALMÖ. I går utsattes folkpartiet för en ny satirattack. Mitt i valrörelsens Malmö delade aktivister ut flygblad med Lars Leijonborg i brunskjorta vid sidan om en hitlerbebis.
Tidningen sponsras av ABF.
En hitlerbebis, den danska främlingsfientliga politikern Pia Kjærsgaard och Leijonborg i naziskjorta pryder satirskriftens förstasida. På insidan annonserar socialdemokratiska ABF.
Sandlåda...
Fargin
09-10-2006, 09:04 AM
I kan få Pia Kjærsgaard hvis i vil. Vil i? Vil i ik' nok?
AlexK
09-10-2006, 12:39 PM
Social demokraterna får min röst, de är inte bra men de är bättre än de andra för mig. Är lite mer åt moderaterna när det gäller försvaret dock.
Resurrection
09-10-2006, 12:44 PM
Social demokraterna får min röst, de är inte bra men de är bättre än de andra för mig. Är lite mer åt moderaterna när det gäller försvaret dock.
Tänker du också särskriva partinamnet på valsedeln? För det har jag absolut ingenting emot att du gör!
signatory
09-10-2006, 02:23 PM
Taktikröstning blir det i år... Sankt Erik behöver nog lite stöd.
khukuri
09-10-2006, 02:46 PM
Social demokraterna får min röst, de är inte bra men de är bättre än de andra för mig. Är lite mer åt moderaterna när det gäller försvaret dock.
Kul att jag inte är den ende som är röd här:), håller dock med ang försvaret...
signatory
09-12-2006, 03:51 AM
http://www.dn.se/DNet/jsp/polopoly.jsp?d=1058&a=572010&rss=1400
http://img87.imageshack.us/img87/3882/greenies2dn5.jpg
Snoshi
09-12-2006, 03:55 AM
So how is FP recovering after the recent crisis?
Snoshi
09-12-2006, 03:56 AM
Jag skulle säkert rösta för Moderaterna om jag kunde
signatory
09-12-2006, 04:29 AM
So how is FP recovering after the recent crisis?
Doing OK.. they probably lost one percentage point or so.. but that went to the other alliance parties anyway... p-)
Too damn close... polls:
47.7 46,7 sifo 11/9
48,1 46,4 sifo 12/9
48,3 47,0 temo 12/9
blue=rightw alliance
signatory
09-12-2006, 08:23 AM
Massive arson bomb found today
2 x 2.5 Litres plastic containers filled with gasoline had been planted in the middle of the Gustav Adolf square in Malmö where several parties hold their campaigns.
According to Police techniquans the bomb was real and set to go off at midnight.
http://www.dn.se/content/1/c6/57/20/65/malmoA445.jpg
http://www.dn.se/DNet/jsp/polopoly.jsp?d=147&a=572067&previousRenderType=6
...Osynliga Partiet (http://www.sr.se/ekot/artikel.asp?artikel=837703) eller Global Intifada (http://www.expressen.se/index.jsp?d=10&a=668473)? Gissar på GI...
Resurrection
09-12-2006, 02:56 PM
TV tips (http://svt.se/svt/jsp/Crosslink.jsp?d=2232&lid=puff_657152&lpos=lasMer):
Uppdrag Granskning on SVT 1 tonight at 20:00, i.e. right now (about Göran Persson).
http://www.svd.se/dynamiskt/inrikes/did_13630914.asp
Avslöjar du någonting med hjälp av dold kamera?
- Det kan jag inte svara på i dag. Vi jobbar just nu med programmet och jag vet inte vad som kommer att finnas med till slut.
Men ni har använt dolda kameror?
- Ja.
Interesting...
Resurrection
09-12-2006, 03:02 PM
Massive arson bomb found today
2 x 2.5 Litres plastic containers filled with gasoline had been planted in the middle of the Gustav Adolf square in Malmö where several parties hold their campaigns.
According to Police techniquans the bomb was real and set to go off at midnight.
http://www.dn.se/content/1/c6/57/20/65/malmoA445.jpg
http://www.dn.se/DNet/jsp/polopoly.jsp?d=147&a=572067&previousRenderType=6
...Osynliga Partiet (http://www.sr.se/ekot/artikel.asp?artikel=837703) eller Global Intifada (http://www.expressen.se/index.jsp?d=10&a=668473)? Gissar på GI...
Holy ****...
How crowded/busy is that place at midnight?
Superking
09-12-2006, 04:10 PM
Holy ****...
How crowded/busy is that place at midnight?
Can be very busy (alot of bus-stops), alot of young people are in that area too.
Resurrection
09-13-2006, 06:27 AM
Horrible... it seems like a new low has been reached.
Bombtekniker planerar insats (http://www.svt.se/svt/road/Classic/shared/mediacenter/player.jsp?d=56061&a=658130) - SVT webb-tv.
Resurrection
09-13-2006, 06:35 AM
Alliance parties reject Persson overtures.
Göran Persson would consider cooperating with party's "on both sides of the political divide". That was his message as he appeared with the leaders of the Left and Green parties on TV4 on Tuesday.
Persson said he would consider ruling with anyone who would "stand up for Swedish welfare and a traditional foreign policy."
"I do not rule out that when the Alliance loses they will want to try something else," he said.
He opened the door for cooperation with the Centre Party and Christian Democrats, but ruled out cooperation with the Moderates.
The Alliance parties rejected the idea of cooperation with the Social Democrats on Tuesday.
http://www.thelocal.se/article.php?ID=4873
Is the Great Leader becoming desperate?
Resurrection
09-13-2006, 07:51 AM
Sverigedemokraterna på frammarsch.
Sverigedemokraterna (SD) är inte längre osynliga hos opinionsinstituten. Från och med i dag finns de redovisade i Sifos tabell med 2,7 procent av sympatierna, 1,3 procentenheter under ett intåg i riksdagen. Och enligt statsvetaren finns det risk för att sd tar sig in i riksdagen på Blekingemandatet.
Sverigedemokraternas intåg hos opinonsinstituten kan komma att påverka opinionen så här nära inpå valdagen.
- Opinionsmätningarna har en hyfsad stor makt över huvud taget kring fyraprocentsspärren. Många blir optimistiska och man kanske får taktikröster eller väljare som inte hade tänkt att rösta på partiet att börjar vakna till, säger Mikael Gilljam, professor i statsvetenskap vid Göteborgs universitet och valforskare till TT.
Och enligt statsvetaren Stig-Björn Ljunggren finns det risk för att sd tar sig in i riksdagen via mandat från Blekinge län. På sin blogg skriver Ljungren "sverigedemokraterna kanske tar sig in i riksdagen på ett Blekingemandat. De har 13 procent där, och det kan ge dem ställning som vågmästare".
http://www.svd.se/dynamiskt/inrikes/did_13656906.asp
Webb-tv
Sverigedemokraterna på frammarsch (http://www.svd.se/apps/webbtv/popup.asp?did=13662773&WMP=true)
Sverigedemokraterna är nu 1,3 procentenheter från riksdagen, enligt Sifo. Partiledaren Jimmie Åkesson öppnar för samarbete med de partier som ger Sverigedemokraterna bäst förutsättningar.
Sverigedemokraterna satsar i valet (http://www.svt.se/svt/road/Classic/shared/mediacenter/player.jsp?d=56061&a=656485)
Ett parti som varken får vara med i utfrågningar eller slutdebatt är Sverigedemokraterna. Trots det ger partiet avtryck i opinionsundersökningarna.
SD förstör upplägget för de övriga (http://www.svt.se/svt/road/Classic/shared/mediacenter/player.jsp?d=56061&a=658246)
Om sverigedemokraterna skulle komma in i riksdagen kan det innebära att blockpolitiken bryts upp, säger statsvetaren Stig-Björn Ljunggren.
Rune_X2
09-13-2006, 08:10 AM
I know you probably wont appreciate any comments from a Dane (I'm really Faroese – perhaps that's better), but you really absolutely need to send the socialists packing. It doesn't matter weather it's socialists or conservatives or whatever, every so often politicians need to get kicked the heck out of there or they become too complacent and full of themselves to bother follow the wishes of the common voters. Power corrupts. The Social Democrats have held power for far too long.
signatory
09-14-2006, 02:42 AM
Polls Thursday 14/9
50,5% 44,8% Demoskop (http://www.tv4.se/eg/puff_20_119854/http://www.tv4.se/nyheter/val06/489253.html)14/9
49,2% 46,5% Synovate Temo (http://di.se/Avdelningar/Artikel.aspx?O=RSS&ArticleId=2006%5c09%5c14%5c201382) 14/9
47,2% 48,7% Sifo (http://di.se/Avdelningar/Artikel.aspx?O=RSS&ArticleId=2006%5c09%5c14%5c201382)14/9
I know you probably wont appreciate any comments from a Dane (I'm really Faroese – perhaps that's better), but you really absolutely need to send the socialists packing. It doesn't matter weather it's socialists or conservatives or whatever, every so often politicians need to get kicked the heck out of there or they become too complacent and full of themselves to bother follow the wishes of the common voters. Power corrupts. The Social Democrats have held power for far too long.
You're right... a minority shouldn't rule over a majority for this long.
signatory
09-14-2006, 07:30 AM
Folkpartiet spokesperson loses driver's license
http://www.dn.se/DNet/jsp/polopoly.jsp?d=1042&a=572629&previousRenderType=6
Folkpartiets rättspolitiske talesman Johan Pehrson har fått sin körkort indraget sedan han kört mot rött ljus.
Det är länsstyrelsen i Örebro som dragit in körkortet sedan Johan Pehrson togs på bar gärning i en poliskontroll i Malmö i förra veckan. Då var han på väg till ett möte med polisen
Flashback:
http://www.svd.se/dynamiskt/inrikes/did_11987529.asp
Publicerat 2 mars 2006 15:35
Gahrton friad i rattfyllemål
Per Garthon (mp) friades i dag i Sollentuna tingsrätt från anklagelserna att han skulle ha kört rattfull i maj förra året. Anledning: polismannen som tog alkoholprovet var inte behörig.
signatory
09-14-2006, 08:35 AM
Quickies:
Uppsala:
Alla fyra valstugorna för de borgerliga partierna på Stora Torget i Uppsala utsattes natten till tisdagen för sabotage. Någon hade förstört låsen med en plåtbit försedd med lim
http://svt.se/svt/jsp/Crosslink.jsp?d=52521&a=658088
Stockholm:
Med bara en vecka kvar till valet lovar socialdemokraterna i Stockholm att satsa flera miljarder på att rusta upp förorterna.
http://svt.se/svt/jsp/Crosslink.jsp?d=52521&a=656292
Fp anklagar s för valfusk
http://svt.se/svt/jsp/Crosslink.jsp?d=52521&a=658985&lid=puff_658988&lpos=rubrik
Umeå
Ett försök att sätta eld på folkpartiets valstuga på Rådhustorget i Umeå har avslöjats och polisanmälts.
http://svt.se/svt/jsp/Crosslink.jsp?d=37092&a=659503&from=rss
Resurrection
09-14-2006, 04:49 PM
Hmm, I've tried PM'ing hood a few times and also recently 2Sheds_Jackson earlier this week to see if they could help me update this thread. No replies as of yet... Let's hope they react before the election. http://img230.imageshack.us/img230/1188/unsurecz3.gif
I know you probably wont appreciate any comments from a Dane (I'm really Faroese – perhaps that's better), but you really absolutely need to send the socialists packing. It doesn't matter weather it's socialists or conservatives or whatever, every so often politicians need to get kicked the heck out of there or they become too complacent and full of themselves to bother follow the wishes of the common voters. Power corrupts. The Social Democrats have held power for far too long.
On the contrary - comments/questions from foreigners are more than welcome! :)
I agree with you, well said.
Superking
09-14-2006, 04:53 PM
Nice debate today, the reds seemed splintered and without unity....really bad impression. I´m starting to feel good about this one :)
signatory
09-14-2006, 05:41 PM
Hmm, I've tried PM'ing hood a few times and also recently 2Sheds_Jackson earlier this week to see if they could help me update this thread. No replies as of yet... Let's hope they react before the election. http://img230.imageshack.us/img230/1188/unsurecz3.gif
Because you can't edit the first post ? hmm try with DW58.. I see him all the time p-)
@ Superking, yea Maria (Mp) always do good on TV but the Alliance really drove home the point about their joint coalition.. but they better watch it now, it's starting to become repetitive. Also, Goran the cakemonster didn't look very professional today..
Resurrection
09-14-2006, 05:56 PM
Here's a question to you all:
What issues/areas do you guys prioritize when you're sitting there trying to decide what political party to vote for?
Because you can't edit the first post ? hmm try with DW58.. I see him all the time p-)
Ok, I sent a PM to him just now. :)
P.S.
Anyone interested in a TV-rip of the debate that was shown tonight?
signatory
09-14-2006, 06:41 PM
Here's a question to you all:
What issues/areas do you guys prioritize when you're sitting there trying to decide what political party to vote for?
I've not decided how to vote yet.. I have 5 decisions to make and want to tactically disperse them right.. But some people think there could be big changes depending on who win... but we're tied by treaties to not do too much crazy.. like if you hear a suggestion that factories should get cheaper electricity from Vattenfall. That would be illegal under WTO rules...
1. Military, I get upset to think how "luck" is now a factor for troop survivability on international missions. 2. Help private businesses in Sweden, make it possible for them to create real jobs. 3. Crime is another top priority, we don't need new laws just a will and capability to enforce them. In the middle... freedoms to our provinces, immigration issues (point 2-3 touch on this already), low tax on food, school system... at the bottom under a rock is the issue of equality rofl
K22GLE
09-15-2006, 04:05 AM
Here's a question to you all:
What issues/areas do you guys prioritize when you're sitting there trying to decide what political party to vote for?
National
1. Tax reduction (income, real-estate, corporate)
2. Get to people abusing the welfare system
3. Free immigration
4. Join EMU
5. Focus military spending on areas useful (used) in international operations.
6. Keep the nuclear power plants
7. Invest in becoming oil independent
Local
1. Keep the traffic tolls in Stockholm. Use money to...
2. ... increase spending on transport infrastructure
3. Let private companies run hospitals
4. Free public transport
signatory
09-15-2006, 05:01 AM
1. Keep the traffic tolls in Stockholm. Use money to...
One 'unfair' aspect of this.. it's not really possible to build a new highway link around the city to "test" if that solution would work just as nice...
The city is still growing I think the amount of traffic will be just as high anyway in a few years.. the difference is that people will still be paying tolls.
I'm not totally against them but this is not a smart long-term solution IMO and there should at least be a plan for a combination of tolls and new highways....
signatory
09-15-2006, 05:03 AM
"Nu är inte Glocalnet lägst längre, det är Göran Persson."
:)
TV4 (http://www.tv4.se/nyheter/val06/489615.html)
PrinzEugen
09-15-2006, 05:24 AM
Here's a question to you all:
What issues/areas do you guys prioritize when you're sitting there trying to decide what political party to vote for?
?
- Significantly reduce the number of people who currently, ( for whatever reason), are outside the productive work market.
- Keep / expand our nuclear power capability.
- Reduce / abolish the real estate tax.
- Restrict immigration, focus on integration of the ones who are allready here.
Ofcourse there are a number of other issues I´m interested in, but these are the ones I am most concerned about.
signatory
09-15-2006, 05:57 AM
http://img.aftonbladet.se/val2006/0609/15/serie.jpg
http://www.aftonbladet.se/vss/val2006/story/0,2789,887953,00.html
Folkmord av Reinfeldt i seriebok
Folkmord, våldtäkter och lemlästade barn. Det blir följden om alliansen vinner valet, enligt serietidningen Galago. Både LO och SSU har delat ut skräckserien under valrörelsen
Tecknaren Pontus Lundkvist har tecknat serien "Golfarupproret" i Galagos temanummer "Stoppa borgarna".
Där beskrivs Sverige efter en borgerlig valseger.
Golfare våldtar lemlästade lik. En mamma uppmanas: "Kasta dart på din hängda bebis eller dö." Män i en kd-bil ropar "Heil Hitler" och en person med hakkors på hjälmen ger sig ut för att mörda småbarn: "Fredrik Reinfeldt kommer att bli stolt och kåt".
Boken delades bland annat ut på LO:s och Sekos familjedag på Kolmården.
zzzzz....moget.
signatory
09-15-2006, 07:53 AM
Norwegian Verdens Gang has a article about (SD). (VG is a sister paper to Aftonbladet in the Schibsted media group)
" - Det har gått til helvete "
http://www.vg.no/pub/vgart.hbs?artid=130597
Resurrection
09-15-2006, 10:50 AM
I've not decided how to vote yet.. I have 5 decisions to make and want to tactically disperse them right..
Hmm... what's the 5th one?
1. Riksdag
2. Kommun
3. Landsting
4. Trängelskatt
5. ?
like if you hear a suggestion that factories should get cheaper electricity from Vattenfall. That would be illegal under WTO rules...
Does it have anything to do with Vattenfall being state-owned?
at the bottom under a rock is the issue of equality rofl
Hahaha I feel the exact same way, the question is given too much attention.
Resurrection
09-15-2006, 10:52 AM
[/URL]Folkmord av Reinfeldt i seriebok
In English:
Comic portrays Alliance as Nazis.
In a comic book being handed out by Sweden’s union group LO, opposition leaders are shown making uncouth remarks in a futuristic Sweden ruled by the center-right Alliance bloc.
Golfers riding in a cart are raping mutilated corpses. A mother says, “Throw darts at my hanging baby or die.” The material is the work of Pontus Lundkvist for the comic strip “Galagos.”
LO is very close to the ruling Social Democrats – the union group funds the party's election campaign and the head of the movement sits ex-officio on the board of the Social Democratic Party.
The cartoons depict the Alliance in a very negative light: a man in a Christian Democrat-marked car yells, “Heil Hitler,” while another person in the car with a swastika on a helmet who appears to be killing children says, “Fredrik Reinfeldt will be proud and horny.”
[url]http://www.thelocal.se/article.php?ID=4904 (http://www.aftonbladet.se/vss/val2006/story/0,2789,887953,00.html)
Resurrection
09-15-2006, 10:59 AM
Persson gets thumbs down after debate.
Sweden’s seven parliamentary leaders met on TV on Thursday night, debating everything from jobs to family policies, hoping to sway a few more votes before Sunday’s election. And things appeared to go badly for prime minister Göran Persson, with Friday's papers almost unanimously critical of his efforts.
The opposition Moderate Party leader Fredrik Reinfeldt kicked off by promising to keep Sweden’s economy moving forward, but said he was troubled by the “massive unemployment.”
...
The headlines on Sweden's two largest tabloids left little room for doubt as to who had won, and will have made uncomfortable reading for the prime minister. Aftonbladet's front page accused Persson of 'bullying' Reinfeldt behind the scenes at TV4, by asking him whether he had gone up in weight.
...
“Göran Persson has had 12 years to put into effect everything he wants in Sweden,” the editorial said. “If he hasn’t done it in 12 years, he can’t learn to do it during the next four.”
Even Sweden’s Aftonbladet (which is owned by union group LO — the group that helps bankroll the Social Democrats) was critical of Persson’s harassment of Liberal Party head Lars Leijonborg, dragging up the computer spying scandal that involved several Liberal Party officials.
“The Prime Minister went too far when he accused Lars Leijonborg of having been in on the Social Democrat intranet and read their documents,” said Lena Mellin, Aftonbladet political writer. “Göran Persson essentially accused the Liberal Party leader of committing a crime. That is serious.”
http://www.thelocal.se/article.php?ID=4902
http://img169.imageshack.us/img169/4329/7b820b9c19f5de42b2b17effd8306de0957dkj8.jpg
http://img169.imageshack.us/img169/6591/7beac8ad46f8b14178a068256288f6c1107dnk2.jpg
+
Reinfeldt's slim hope of success (http://www.thelocal.se/article.php?ID=4877&date=20060913)
Jealous, Persson? http://img213.imageshack.us/img213/2082/rolleyeslb1.gif
Snoshi
09-15-2006, 11:38 AM
http://img169.imageshack.us/img169/4329/7b820b9c19f5de42b2b17effd8306de0957dkj8.jpg
This pic tells it all
Resurrection
09-15-2006, 12:35 PM
This pic tells it all
Yup, you can tell a lot by one's body language. Who's on the attack, who's on the defence, who has the most confidence in his/her ideas, etc.
signatory
09-15-2006, 12:51 PM
Hmm... what's the 5th one?
1. Riksdag
2. Kommun
3. Landsting
4. Trängelskatt
5. ?
5 is which beer I should buy.. p-) eh, I meant 4. I was going to vote today at the library.. but bloody hell, the waiting line was 15-20 meter long..
Does it have anything to do with Vattenfall being state-owned?
yeap... industry used to have free electricity from the state.. so the electricity price never cut into profits... but new trade agreements made that illegal.
(afaik industry now want to build their own nuke plant in the baltics and pull a cable to Sweden.. )
P.S This is how (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/3291675.stm)Bush won a bunch of votes by ignoring WTO rules p-)
Resurrection
09-15-2006, 12:54 PM
Sweden's monopolies in the firing line.
Sweden's state monopolies on alcohol, pharmacies and gaming were created decades ago to promote social justice and public health, but now they are under threat from the European Union and a possible change of government after Sunday's general election.
Since 1955, Swedes wanting to buy a bottle of beer, wine or spirits have had to queue up at one of the state-run alcohol monopoly distributors called Systembolaget, where they take a number and stand in line for their turn at the cash register.
http://www.thelocal.se/article.php?ID=4884
signatory
09-15-2006, 01:05 PM
Since 1955, Swedes wanting to buy a bottle of beer, wine or spirits have had to queue up at one of the state-run alcohol monopoly distributors called Systembolaget, where they take a number and stand in line for their turn at the cash register.
lol do they still have shops like that? Apoteket monopoly is much more bad, it's crazy that grocery shops can sell cigarettes, but not nicotine gum...
prescription free meds should be out on competition.. like in every other country except of course Sweden, Cuba and North Korea.
signatory
09-15-2006, 09:32 PM
Polls - Alliance FTW
Temo/Synovate 15/9: (http://www.dn.se/DNet/jsp/polopoly.jsp?d=2390&a=573172&previousRenderType=2)
49,7% vs 45,3%
Sifo 15/9: (http://svt.se/svt/jsp/Crosslink.jsp?d=37092&a=661278&from=rss)
48,6% vs 45,9%
signatory
09-16-2006, 08:44 AM
deleted mkay
Resurrection
09-16-2006, 09:49 AM
Alliance leads in four polls.
The Social Democrats might want to start putting their CVs together. Four opinion polls show the center-right Alliance opposition bloc leading just a day away from Sunday’s election.
Still, opposition leader Moderate Party’s Fredrik Reinfeldt shouldn’t start packing his suitcase yet. The polls show that the election is still likely to be a tough race.
http://www.thelocal.se/article.php?ID=4909
Resurrection
09-16-2006, 09:53 AM
http://img204.imageshack.us/img204/7126/borgarexk3.jpg
Leaders in final plea to voters.
Sweden's party leaders on Friday night made a final attempt to in turns inspire, scare and cajole voters into giving them their support, as they turned up for the last televised debate before Sunday's election.
Jobs, as usual, were the hottest subject for the seven party leaders as they debated on SVT. With polls predicting a close election, the parties were battling for every vote.
...
As in a number of earlier debates, Persson continued to talk over his permitted time, so Hägglund challenged him to shut up and wait for his turn.
Fredrik Reinfeldt accused Persson of only wanting to reduce taxes for the rich, and reminded him that the Social Democrats had abolished inheritance and gift tax.
"One group for whom you never reduce taxes are those who earn least," he said.
But Persson defended high taxes, saying they paid for welfare, which he claimed evens out the differences between people. He said the Alliance wanted to make things worse for the unemployed, wanted lower wages and wanted a "maid deduction" for domestic services.
The Centre Party's Maud Olofsson reacted strongly to his reference to "maid jobs."
"What kind of view is that of people who clean homes and offices?"
http://www.thelocal.se/article.php?ID=4912
Resurrection
09-16-2006, 10:01 AM
'Bomb' left at Social Democratic hut.
A suspected bomb was found at an election canvassing hut in a Stockholm suburb on Saturday just one day before Sweden's legislative vote, police said.
Police cordoned off a square in the Stockholm suburb of Västerhaninge after the suspected device was discovered outside the ruling Social Democrats' wooden cottage used to distribute election materials.
http://www.thelocal.se/article.php?ID=4911
The police sent in a bomb squad, and decided that it was best to shoot the object, which they later did. The Local is a little slow at updating.
Resurrection
09-16-2006, 10:02 AM
Oh by the way, check out the first page and tell me what you think. Thanks to DW58 for updating it.
signatory
09-16-2006, 03:18 PM
yea thanks DW58
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This poll is done 13-16th Sept. 30% on Saturday.
TEMO: ALLIANCE FOR SWEDEN IN STRONG LEAD
50,8% - 43,9%.
http://www.dn.se/DNet/jsp/polopoly.jsp?d=2390&a=573265&previousRenderType=6
http://img67.imageshack.us/img67/7443/lastpollnw7.th.jpg (http://img67.imageshack.us/my.php?image=lastpollnw7.jpg)
Well...
50,8% vs 43,9% temo 15-16 sept.
49,7% vs 45,3% temo 12-14 sept
48,6% vs 45,9% sifo 13-14 sept
48,9% vs 46,8% ruab 6-14 sept
48,3% vs 47,6% skop 9-15 sept
50,5% vs 44,8% Demoskop 14/9
49,2% vs 46,5% Temo 14/9
47,2% vs 48,7% Sifo 14/9
The alliance has stayed more or less still in the 48.5-50.5 region this week.
Resurrection
09-17-2006, 10:55 AM
Polls open in Swedish election.
Polling stations opened in Sweden's general election at 8am on Sunday, with polls giving the opposition Alliance a lead over Göran Persson's ruling Social Democrats.
"I feel very confident that we've had a good campaign," opposition leader Fredrik Reinfeldt told TV4 in an interview on Sunday.
Göran Persson also said thought he'd fought a good campaign.
"My feeling is that this is close, and my experience is that the opinion polls often get it wrong," the prime minister said.
http://www.thelocal.se/article.php?ID=4924
Resurrection
09-17-2006, 11:42 AM
Police search for Fittja killers.
A 47-year old man was killed on Saturday night in an attack in the Stockholm suburb of Fittja.
The man was hit, kicked and stabbed in a schoolyard at around 8.30pm by what a witness says was a gang of youths. When the witness shouted at them, the youths ran away.
"He was hit, kicked and stabbed in the torso," said police spokeswoman Gunilla Lööw.
The man died shortly after arriving at hospital, and police are treating the case as murder. Nobody has yet been arrested and police say they has no suspects on Sunday afternoon.
http://www.thelocal.se/article.php?ID=4928
Resurrection
09-17-2006, 11:45 AM
Utländska medier: Maktskifte hägrar.
Det svenska valet uppmärksammas runt om i världen och bilderna av valet har alla samma motiv: Sverige kan stå inför ett maktskifte.
New York Times nätupplaga skriver att det svenska valet knappast är någon revolution, men att "det är mycket möjligt att svenskarna vräker sina ledare". Brittiska BBC är inne på samma spår och tecknar bilden av valfajten mellan Göran Persson och Fredrik Reinfeldt.
The Independent menar att Sverige kanske står inför en politisk jordbävning och tecknar ett porträtt av Fredrik Reinfeldt där hans fysiska uppenbarelse liknas vid Iain Duncan Smith, tidigare ledare för brittiska Conservative Party, och att hans politik påminner om Tory-ledaren David Camerons:
"Mr Reinfeldt kanske liknar Iain Duncan Smith till det yttre, men hans politik är direkt hämtad från David Camerons bok. Hans historia är den om en av de mest dramatiska förändringarna i svensk historia", skriver The Independent.
Norska Aftenposten kallar riksdagsvalet det mest spännande på många år och syftar på den borgerliga alliansens försprång i de senaste dagarnas valbarometrar:
"De borgerligas framgång har utlöst valkampanjsspurten hos de svenska socialdemokraterna. Många observatörer menar att Göran Persson har problem med att visa entusiasm och framåtanda. Om det intrycket fastnar hos väljarna också, kan det bli vanskligt för socialdemokraterna att få till den där slutspurten som de är så kända för", skriver Aftenpostens nätupplaga. I Norge skriver Dagavisens nätupplaga också att en sliten Göran Persson har mist sin makt.
Flera av de nordiska tidningarna har givit sig ut i den sista valspurten. Svenskspråkiga Hufvudstadsbladet i Finland har i Stockholms söderort fokuserat på hur partierna i vänsterblocket raggar trötta sympatisörer.
http://www.dn.se/DNet/jsp/polopoly.jsp?d=2390&a=573369&previousRenderType=6
signatory
09-17-2006, 11:59 AM
(S) reported to police over voting irregularities
2006-09-17 16:05
"Ett valbråk uppstod i Norrköping sedan representanter för socialdemokraterna delat ut valkuvert med istoppade valsedlar.
Folkpartiet och moderaterna har polisanmält händelsen."
http://expressen.se/index.jsp?a=686684
Flashback 2002:
Socialdemokratiska valarbetare dömda av Sthlm Tingsrätt för valfusk.
http://expressen.se/index.jsp?a=100409
Resurrection
09-17-2006, 02:06 PM
Jag vill också byta statsminister (http://www.bytstatsminister.nu/media/Jagvillocksabytastatsminister.mp3).
Dance remix (http://www.bytstatsminister.nu/media/Jagvillocksabytastatsminister%28dance_remix%29.mp3).
FEEL THE RHYTHM!
http://img232.imageshack.us/img232/8264/133wp7.gif
Rune_X2
09-17-2006, 04:57 PM
Congratulation Sweden! Send the socialists packing. 12 years are way too many.
Superking
09-17-2006, 05:25 PM
I am so nervous right now, if the socialists win again i will use my ticket to the US as a one way.
Storstark
09-17-2006, 06:11 PM
woot woot woot woot woot woot woot woot
V I C T O R Y! :)
This is a great day for Sweden!
The second best thing is that the pig, GP is gone! :):):)
Superking
09-17-2006, 06:13 PM
woot woot woot woot woot woot woot woot
Victory!!11!!!
This is a great day for Sweden!
And Persson resigns, it´s like christmas!!
signatory
09-17-2006, 06:15 PM
this is worth a new thread :)
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