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Resurrection
05-06-2006, 07:04 AM
With the election coming up in September, I thought I'd make a thread here where we could discuss things such as Swedish politics in general, the political parties, their viewpoints on certain issues, news, etc.



I. Parties represented in parliament (sorted by size/popularity)



Left-wing/block



Social Democrats (s)
Left Party (v)
Green Party (mp)



Right-wing/block



Moderates (m)
Liberal Party (fp)
Christian Democrats (kd)
Center Party (c)


II. "Major" parties not represented in parliament (with a link to their political platforms in English)



Sweden Democrats (http://www.sverigedemokraterna.net/int_text.php?action=fullnews&id=225) (sd)
Pirate Party (http://www2.piratpartiet.se/international/english) (pp)
Feminist Initiative (http://www.feministisktinitiativ.se/engelska.php) (fi)
June List (http://www.junilistan.se/?action=readArticle&id=253) (jl)


III. Popularity: right-wing vs. left-wing




Sifo poll (http://www.gp.se/gp/jsp/Crosslink.jsp?d=600&a=295546) from September 9th, 2006.


IV. Viewpoints (scroll down to the "Links" section if you want to know more)





Left Party:

Want the budget cuts to continue; freed up funds should go to education, police, and medical sector
Support Sweden being free of any military alliances during peacetime and neutral during wartime
Support the conscription system, but want it to be gender-neutral (i.e. females should also be drafted)
Want Swedish troops out of Afghanistan, claiming that ISAF in practice is no longer being kept seperate from the US-led Operation Enduring Freedom
Advocate a restrictive weapons export policy, and think Sweden should immediately cease exporting to poor, war-torn and/or warring nations/factions
"No" to NATO, PFP and a common EU defense

Social Democrats:

Think the recent budget cuts are enough, for now
Support the transformation of the former Cold War-era invasion defence to a modern, smaller, and more flexible military
Support Sweden being free of any military alliances during peacetime and neutral during wartime
"No" to NATO and a common EU defense

Green Party:

Short-term goal is to continue the budget cuts, while their long-term goal is to become a "role model" to the rest of the world and replace the Armed Forces with a civil defence - all a part of their "global disarmament" theory
Think the real threats we face are weapons, poverty and natural disasters
Advocate a very restrictive weapons export policy
Are very critical towards the use of cluster bombs, and want to introduce a ban on these weapons
Want the UN to become stronger, more efficient and accepted as the only organ authorized to intervene with military force
"No" to NATO, PFP and a common EU defense

Center Party:

Want to increase the military's budget with around 2 billion kronor ($275 million) over the next 3 years
Want the Armed Forces to be able to handle two long term international missions (battalion-size contribution) and smaller units in various other places all at the same time
Support an active participation from Sweden's side in the development of the EU battle groups
Want more Swedish troops in Afghanistan
"No" to NATO

Liberal Party:

Want to increase the military's budget with around 2 billion kronor ($275 million) during the 2006-2008 timeframe
Advocate the "smaller but more flexible" concept
Critical of the conscription system, see no reason to have it during peacetime
Want Swedish troops in Darfur
"Yes" to NATO

Christian Democrats:

Think an increased budget is needed in order for the military to be able to carry out the new tasks it has been given after the re-organization
Claim the concept of neutrality is no longer relevant in today's world
Want the long-term fight against terrorism to be fought with all available means while at the same time respecting human rights
Want to strengthen Sweden's cooperation with organizations such as the UN, EU and NATO
Want the Swedish military to increase its presence internationally
"No" to NATO

Moderates:

Want to increase the military's budget with around 2 billion kronor ($275 million) over the next 3 years in order for it to be able to handle today's threats and tomorrow's
Want to streamline the Armed Forces and make it more efficient
"Yes" to NATO





Left Party:

Want a "humane and equitable" refugee policy
Think that persecution due to gender and/or sexual orientation alone should be reason enough for refugees to seek political asylum
Want asylum-seeking refugees and those in hiding to have full access to the Swedish healthcare system
Want bi-lingual curriculums to be available from kindergarten to high school-level
Are not willing to debate with the Sweden Democrats

Social Democrats:

Want to improve the introduction for newly-arrived immigrants by offering tuition in Swedish and "reinforcing" the legislation against ethnic discrimination
Are not willing to debate with the Sweden Democrats

Green Party:

Believe that if a refugee's application takes more than a year to handle, he/she should automatically be given a permanent residence permit
Want asylum-seeking refugees and those in hiding to have full access to the Swedish healthcare system and be allowed to attend public schooling
Are not willing to debate with the Sweden Democrats

Center Party:

Want to focus on drawing the immigrants closer to the labour market (i.e. getting them a job) as soon as possible
Want to introduce a "Green Card" system for worker immigration (they estimate that around 20,000 immigrants would be offered Swedish work permits every year)
Want every individual to be seen as a resource for society
Are willing to debate with the Sweden Democrats

Liberal Party:

Want to improve and "open up" the reception of refugees
Believe that a basic understanding of Swedish is essential and thus wants to introduce a language test for immigrants seeking citizenship
Want to triple the amount of local police in troubled areas
Are willing to debate with the Sweden Democrats

Christian Democrats:

Want to allow anonymous job applications so employers will not be able to reject any because of a foreign last name for example
Think that asylum-refugees should be able to immediately start working instead of having to face "a bunch of bureaucratic complications"
Want to introduce a ban on deporting clinically apathetic children
Want every newly-arrived refugee to be provided a "contact family" and/or guide
Are willing to debate with the Sweden Democrats, while exercising some restraint

Moderates:

Want to make it easier for worker immigrants to come to Sweden
Want to "reinforce" the legislation against ethnic discrimination
Are willing to debate with the Sweden Democrats


V. Links (source (http://www.flashback.info/showthread.php?t=363144))



Media



Dagens Nyheter (http://www.dn.se/DNet/jsp/polopoly.jsp?d=2390&previousRenderType=1)
Svenska Dagbladet (http://www.svd.se/dynamiskt/inrikes/did_12675462.asp)
Aftonbladet (http://www.aftonbladet.se/ettor/webb/2688_normal.html)
Expressen (http://expressen.se/index.jsp?d=2325)
TV4 (http://www.tv4.se/nyheter/val06/) - Videos/TV (http://www.tv4.se/player/categories.aspx?treeId=1011)
SVT (http://svt.se/val) - Videos/TV (http://svt.se/svt/road/Classic/shared/mediacenter/index.jsp?&d=51136)
The Local (http://www.thelocal.se/guides/?to=election&title=the+Swedish+Election+2006) (in English)



Party leader interviews (SVT)



Göran Hägglund (http://svt.se/svt/road/Classic/shared/mediacenter/player.jsp?d=55451&a=643200) (kd)
Göran Persson (http://svt.se/svt/road/Classic/shared/mediacenter/player.jsp?d=55451&a=643221) (s)
Lars Ohly (http://svt.se/svt/road/Classic/shared/mediacenter/player.jsp?d=55451&a=643229) (v)
Maud Olofsson (http://svt.se/svt/road/Classic/shared/mediacenter/player.jsp?d=55451&a=643235) (c)
Fredrik Reinfeldt (http://svt.se/svt/road/Classic/shared/mediacenter/player.jsp?d=55451&a=643244) (m)
Peter Eriksson (http://svt.se/svt/road/Classic/shared/mediacenter/player.jsp?d=55451&a=643252) (mp)
Lars Leijonborg (http://svt.se/svt/road/Classic/shared/mediacenter/player.jsp?d=55451&a=643257) (fp)



Göran Persson vs. Fredrik Reinfeldt debates



August 18th (http://svt.se/svt/road/Classic/shared/mediacenter/index.jsp?d=55344&a=641475) (SVT)
September 6th (http://tv4.se/player/categories.aspx?progId=70020&itemId=&treeId=1011&displayTreeId=) (TV4)
September 8th (http://sr.se/cgi-bin/ekot/artikel.asp?Artikel=935198) (Sveriges Radio)
September 10th - final debate (http://svt.se/svt/road/Classic/shared/mediacenter/player.jsp?d=56357&a=654902) (SVT)



Manifestos



Left Party (http://www.vansterpartiet.se/cs-media/xyz/000030862.pdf)
Social Democrats (http://www.socialdemokraterna.se/upload/Central/dokument/pdf/Socialdemokraternasvalmanifest2006.pdf)
Green Party (http://mp.se/templates/Mct_78.aspx?avdnr=5&number=92445)


Alliance for Sweden (http://www.maktskifte06.se/fileadmin/Upload/pdf/Valmanifest_2006.pdf) (right-wing coalition's joint manifesto)
Center Party (http://www.centerpartiet.se/upload/Centerpartiet/Dokument/060814-Valmanifest.pdf)
Liberal Party (http://www.folkpartiet.se/Pages/86639/Valmanifest%202006.pdf)
Christian Democrats (http://www.kristdemokraterna.se/artiklar/Valmanifest2006.aspx)
Moderates (http://www.moderat.se/material/pdffiler/moderat_11799.pdf)


Sweden Democrats (http://www.sverigedemokraterna.net/parti_val_2006.php?action=fullnews&id=3)
Pirate Party (http://www.piratpartiet.se/documents/valmanifest2006.pdf)
Feminist Initiative (http://www.feministisktinitiativ.se/valmanifest.php)
June List (http://www.junilistan.se/pdf/Oktobermanifestet.pdf)



Political barometer tests



http://www.svd.se/dynamiskt/inrikes/did_13527280.asp
http://www.dn.se/DNet/road/Classic/department/96/jsp/Content.jsp?d=1264&a=44220
http://www.aftonbladet.se/val2006/partikollen/ (in English, Spanish and other obscure languages)
http://expressen.se/expressen/road/www/article/24/jsp/Render.jsp?d=102&qindex=0&a=622141&qstate=0
http://www.svd.se/dynamiskt/stockholm24/did_13304528.asp



Miscellaneous



Overview of Swedish politics (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Politics_of_Sweden) (in English)
Latest news regarding the election (http://www.rssportalen.se/valet06.shtml)
How to vote (http://www.val.se/for_valjare/index.html)
Find out where each established party stands in various issues/areas (http://svt.se/svt/jsp/Crosslink.jsp?d=50621) (in addition to the ones above)
Compilation of this year's and last year's opinion surveys (http://www.erixon.com/pm/opinionsmatningar.htm)
Angus Reid Global Scan - Sweden (http://www.angus-reid.com/tracker/index.cfm?fuseaction=viewItem&itemID=11224) (in English)


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So, which party do you think best represents your values? What issues do you think are the most important? Feel free to ask any questions.

jerka71_1
05-06-2006, 07:15 AM
I will vote for any of the "right wing" block parties as long as we get a new government!

Minardiau
05-06-2006, 07:20 AM
Go the Socialist Democrats!

Bert
05-06-2006, 07:59 AM
I'm guessing it doesn't matter which party on either side one votes for, because they'll both want to form coalition governments anyways.

I'd vote for the Liberal Party. Libertarian ideas and small government solutions are always welcome.

Thor
05-06-2006, 02:21 PM
My vote this year will be a protest vote to bring this nation in the right direction...



(Btw, The Liberal Party here was the only party that wanted us to join in on the invasion of Iraq.. Quite different from american liberals in many ways.)

Resurrection
05-06-2006, 07:38 PM
*Update*

- Added a link in the "Popularity" section (thanks to signatory).

Resurrection
05-06-2006, 07:39 PM
Anything in particular you guys want me to add in the "Viewpoints" section?

Daniel1115
05-07-2006, 02:07 PM
With the information provided:

I don't like any of the Left block parties - too much focus on welfare regardless if people truly need it, not enough incentive for people to have jobs or want to be entreprenuers, and not enough support for a modern military (The Left and Green Party are nuts in this area).

From the economic perspective, I like the Liberal and Moderate parties. From a military standpoint, the Moderates have my support.

Anything in particular you guys want me to add in the "Viewpoints" section?Can you add their views on Crime, Education, and Immigration policies to that list?

Parzival
05-07-2006, 04:06 PM
The only decent party seems to be the Moderates..

Parzival
05-07-2006, 04:09 PM
My vote this year will be a protest vote to bring this nation in the right direction...



(Btw, The Liberal Party here was the only party that wanted us to join in on the invasion of Iraq.. Quite different from american liberals in many ways.)
Yes, the liberals in Sweden are more to the right than in the USA.

skinner the swede
05-07-2006, 05:15 PM
I will wote on the Christian Democrats. Because a wote on the Christian Democrats is a wote on the Moderates. Without the KD the Borgliga will lose to the socialists, and that means more defence cuts and less jobs.
Kd will give the military more money if the win.

Edit: I also like KDs values.

Nordmannen
05-07-2006, 05:39 PM
I like the Green party`s military viewpoint. Would definitely get my vote if I was Swedish.

signatory
05-07-2006, 06:06 PM
Since the 'Alliance' will come up with a joint manifesto 30 days before the election I'm not sure there's much to worry about politically what party should get a vote. They will already have settled the big issues.

So for tactical voting.. this is what I'm likely to do, depends on the manifesto tho, but the wish is to remove the current regime.

Superking
05-08-2006, 08:02 AM
M or Kd for me, if the left bloc wins again i´ll start to look for another job on a new continent.

JoaMei
05-08-2006, 08:07 AM
The Swedish military should abandon cluster bombs because they hurt people.

Someone should tell them thats what they are meant to do. p-)

Greek soldier
05-08-2006, 08:33 AM
Are the Moderates still in favour of Sweden's participation in the NATO or not??

Resurrection
05-08-2006, 08:50 AM
Can you add their views on Crime, Education, and Immigration policies to that list?
I'm on it. ;)


Are the Moderates still in favour of Sweden's participation in the NATO or not??
Yes, as far as I know the Moderates are still for NATO membership. They stated a few months ago though that they will not actively push for it during the next mandate period (if the right-wing coalition wins the election of course).

cleth
05-08-2006, 11:09 AM
I'd vote for liberals or moderates. I like the moderates standpoint for military, and the liberals' one for economy. Would be hard to pick which one. It is surprising that so many parties say yes to the euro, and you still haven't got it. Hurry up guys, I hate going through the money exchange everytime I visit Stockholm. ;)

khukuri
05-09-2006, 05:53 AM
left block

Resurrection
05-09-2006, 05:57 AM
left block

How... how could you.

khukuri
05-09-2006, 07:32 AM
How... how could you.

the defence budget is not the most important issue in Sweden, the are other things that are far more important... thus I could.

Resurrection
05-09-2006, 07:34 AM
If you haven't already noticed I'm trying to start a debate. I know you don't think our military is that important, you've said it before. But in your own opinion, how are the left wing parties any better in the other areas?

signatory
05-09-2006, 07:37 AM
the defence budget is not the most important issue in Sweden, the are other things that are far more important... thus I could.

The right-alliance barely even talk about the military and certainly it's not their main issue either.

I would say the main issues are the same for both blocks but the proposed solutions is what set them apart.

Resurrection
05-09-2006, 07:42 AM
And is it just me or do many immigrants tend to vote left? I don't know, just something I've noticed.

Bert
05-09-2006, 07:46 AM
And is it just me or do many immigrants tend to vote left? I don't know, just something I've noticed.
They want to cling along to the welfare wave.

signatory
05-09-2006, 07:48 AM
And is it just me or do many immigrants tend to vote left? I don't know, just something I've noticed.

Heck the first letters they get to see is from Social kontoret and get Social bidrag.. so why not vote for the Social Democrats :roll:

Superking
05-09-2006, 07:53 AM
Most immigrants i know in Malmö votes for S, could be because the high unemployment among those groups that makes them vote that way.

The only ones that have a pretty high M/Kd/Fp rate are Poles, Hungarians and Czechs (sp?) by my observations.

khukuri
05-09-2006, 01:40 PM
As a member of the socialdemocratic party, and former emploey, I come to this forum to relax and discuss other issues. Thus I try to not get involved in theese discussions cuz im sick do death of debating the tax education et.c

But sure, If you have anything you wanna bring up, shoot. The elections is coming up anyway and its time for me to start going into the argumentation mantra again. If you wanna start a debate, do that by stating something, not the other way around;).

khukuri
05-09-2006, 01:43 PM
The right-alliance barely even talk about the military and certainly it's not their main issue either.

I would say the main issues are the same for both blocks but the proposed solutions is what set them apart.

true, but he didnt specify... One of the few things I agree with the right wing block about is the difence issues, thus I brought that one up.

Resurrection
05-09-2006, 01:47 PM
But sure, If you have anything you wanna bring up, shoot. The elections is coming up anyway and its time for me to start going into the argumentation mantra again. If you wanna start a debate, do that by stating something, not the other way around;).

Ok I understand. Nah I just want to know why you think the left-wing is a better choice when it comes to other issues. ;)

Resurrection
05-11-2006, 11:31 AM
Okay now I see that I can't edit my first post... can someone help me?

Resurrection
05-11-2006, 12:23 PM
And for those who are interested, there's a debate tonight (kl. 20) on SVT 1 between Göran Persson (s) and Fredrik Reinfeldt (m).

http://www.aftonbladet.se/vss/nyheter/story/0,2789,824005,00.html

Resurrection
05-12-2006, 07:14 AM
Jobs at heart of leader debate.

http://www.thelocal.se/article.php?ID=3786

PrinzEugen
05-12-2006, 10:14 AM
Jobs at heart of leader debate.

http://www.thelocal.se/article.php?ID=3786


Yup, saw it. Funny how on election year every politician is your best friend with a detailed plan on how to solve everything from cancer to unemployment. But when the polls close... u know the rest.

Luno
05-12-2006, 10:16 AM
I am not gone be able to vote this year :-( because I wont be in Sweden

Resurrection
05-12-2006, 10:20 AM
I am not gone be able to vote this year :-( because I wont be in Sweden

Eh? My parents could vote while we were living in Singapore...

signatory
05-12-2006, 11:48 AM
I am not gone be able to vote this year :-( because I wont be in Sweden

All you need to do is visit the local Swedish embassy or consulate. You don't need anything else other than ID card or passport.

Ed: Better say, that they are open for voting about a month before the election, but not during the actual week...
You can also vote by mail but it's a lot more work.

Resurrection
05-15-2006, 07:38 AM
Swedes still against joining NATO.

http://www.thelocal.se/article.php?ID=3804

venture
05-15-2006, 11:53 AM
How many votes do you guys/girls think Sverigedemokraterna will get? Last election they had 1,4% of the voters. And what about FI and Junilistan?

Theres been alot of scandals with the social democratic party, I belive that the right block will win this election. People are tired with Göran Persson but I dont think that Göran Hägglund(Christian Democrats) and Lars Leijonborg(liberal party) will be any better.

Resurrection
05-15-2006, 12:09 PM
How many votes do you guys/girls think Sverigedemokraterna will get? Last election they had 1,4% of the voters. And what about FI and Junilistan?
I predict that SD/ND will get an increase in votes, while the amount of votes for Fi and Junilistan will either stay the same or slightly decrease. They're too unstable and scandal-ridden to be taken seriously in my opinion.


In related news:

Every other principal will not let SD/ND campaigners in their school.

http://www.svd.se/dynamiskt/stockholm24/did_12659503.asp


Theres been alot of scandals with the social democratic party, I belive that the right block will win this election. People are tired with Göran Persson but I dont think that Göran Hägglund(Christian Democrats) and Lars Leijonborg(liberal party) will be any better.
True, but why focus on Hägglund or Leijonborg instead of Reinfeldt?

maynard
05-15-2006, 01:02 PM
True, but why focus on Hägglund or Leijonborg instead of Reinfeldt?

I echo this question. I think Reinfeldt would be PM. Surely M will be the largest party (in terms of seats) of the Alliance?

The problem that I see for SD is that they're perhaps considered (more or less) political amateurs. I know many people who agree with them but very few who would vote for them.

ND I think will not get many votes at all.

venture
05-15-2006, 02:16 PM
I also think that Sverigedemokraterna will increase their votes, maybee to 1,5 - 1,7%. Depends on the media I guess, but last election they did not get any attention from the media. Yes, SD are a bunch of amatuers in peoples minds, I dont think that any accusations of beeing racist will result in less votes for them. The national democrats are more or less nazis, the whole party is a political suicide.

Resurrection
05-19-2006, 09:38 AM
Swedes leaning left, according to latest poll.

http://www.thelocal.se/article.php?ID=3847

Bert
05-19-2006, 10:06 AM
Swedes still against joining NATO.

http://www.thelocal.se/article.php?ID=3804
Non-alignment? Hah. You joined the EU, folks. Soon to be the EF, with a common security and defence policy. There's no way you're gonna retain your neutrality while you're EU members. Not that that's a bad thing -- I'm just saying.

Resurrection
05-23-2006, 12:31 PM
Wow... here's the surprise of the day.

http://www.dn.se/DNet/jsp/polopoly.jsp?d=2390&a=547235&previousRenderType=6


Greens would like to govern together with Liberal Party

The Green Party's mouthpiece Peter Eriksson would not mind sitting in a coalition government comprised of a non-socialist right-wing center party (such as the Liberal Party) and the Social Democrats. He said that at a press conference in Parliament on Tuesday.

khukuri
05-25-2006, 07:19 PM
Non-alignment? Hah. You joined the EU, folks. Soon to be the EF, with a common security and defence policy. There's no way you're gonna retain your neutrality while you're EU members. Not that that's a bad thing -- I'm just saying.


We dont have neutrality, Were free drom alliance, and can change that when we want to... not same as neutrality

khukuri
05-25-2006, 07:20 PM
Wow... here's the surprise of the day.

http://www.dn.se/DNet/jsp/polopoly.jsp?d=2390&a=547235&previousRenderType=6


a tactic to scare the socialdemocrats so they give em more seats and power in case of coalition... the always do that...

signatory
05-26-2006, 08:08 AM
Opposition demand full protection for soldiers in international rapid reaction units

http://www.svd.se/dynamiskt/inrikes/did_12760346.asp

Resurrection
05-29-2006, 01:51 AM
Swedes don't care about NATO.

The two political blocks are split when it comes to their views on the military alliance NATO, but the average Swede doesn't seem to care about foreign policy or defence issues when they choose what party to vote for.

http://www.dn.se/DNet/jsp/polopoly.jsp?d=2390&a=548451

Resurrection
05-30-2006, 08:50 AM
Center Party "softens" anti-nuclear policy.

Maud Olofsson has announced that the Center Party is breaking its deal with the Social Democrats to get rid of nuclear power, and plans instead to form an agreement with the Alliance.

http://www.thelocal.se/article.php?ID=3940

anv2
05-30-2006, 10:48 AM
Speaking of nuclear power, are there any specific plans on how Sweden will reduce the use of nuclear power in the future - or is the whole thing just a big PR stunt? All I ever hear is that Sweden plans to get rid of nuclear plants, but very little has been done to achieve that goal during the past two decades.

signatory
05-30-2006, 11:04 AM
Speaking of nuclear power, are there any specific plans on how Sweden will reduce the use of nuclear power in the future - or is the whole thing just a big PR stunt? All I ever hear is that Sweden plans to get rid of nuclear plants, but very little has been done to achieve that goal during the past two decades.

Because it's not a goal. It's an ambition. When it's economically and technologically feasible. If...

Resurrection
05-31-2006, 08:35 AM
Left Party: Don't give children homework.

The Left Party has proposed abolishing homework for children up to the age of 16, saying that it wants to compensate for differences in pupils' backgrounds.

Scrapping homework is one of the proposals put forward in the party's program for 'equality at school', which was presented on Wednesday.

http://www.thelocal.se/article.php?ID=3947

Daniel1115
05-31-2006, 08:40 PM
If they abolish homework, what incentive will students have to learn in their free time after school? Seems like another instance of removing personal responcibility.

Resurrection
05-31-2006, 10:36 PM
If they abolish homework, what incentive will students have to learn in their free time after school? Seems like another instance of removing personal responcibility.
I totally agree. If the students are going to be learning even less than they are now, it's hardly to be counted as a quality-increasing move is it? Our education system is already a failure as it is (I think it's been rated as one of the least efficient within the EU, I'll have to have a look at that).

Wonder how many parents who have supported the Left Party still do after this proposal...?

Resurrection
06-01-2006, 12:15 AM
Lefties steal the most.

Leftists are more prone to stealing than others. 1,000 randomly-selected Swedes from the ages of 15 and up were asked the question "Have you ever stolen anything?" by Sifo [an opinion and social research institute]. A whole 62% of Left Party supporters admit to stealing at least once.

"A possible explanation could be that our voter base is primarily made up of low-income takers and people from vulnerable groups in society," says the Left Party's information chief Jenny Lindahl Persson.

http://www.aftonbladet.se/vss/telegram/0,1082,67446494_852__,00.html (http://www.thelocal.se/article.php?ID=3947)


Haha, pretty strange...

Resurrection
06-01-2006, 06:26 AM
Voting at 17 wins support.

There is broad support in Parliament to give all of those who turn 18 years old during an election year the right to vote.

Swedish youth minister Lena Hallengren has said she understands those who think the minimum voting age of 18 years old is unfair, reports Svenska Dagbladet (SvD). She was born on Christmas day and was not allowed to vote when her classmates who had turned 18 did.

http://www.thelocal.se/article.php?ID=3957

K22GLE
06-01-2006, 11:16 AM
Voting at 17 wins support.

There is broad support in Parliament to give all of those who turn 18 years old during an election year the right to vote.

Swedish youth minister Lena Hallengren has said she understands those who think the minimum voting age of 18 years old is unfair, reports Svenska Dagbladet (SvD). She was born on Christmas day and was not allowed to vote when her classmates who had turned 18 did.

http://www.thelocal.se/article.php?ID=3957

I was born on election day 1976. Was the fist win by the right-wing since 1936.

In the election 1994 my birthday was one day after the election day, couldn't vote...

I am for this suggestion!

signatory
06-04-2006, 02:07 AM
Results from Temo May polling.

- Moderaterna largest party among first time voters
- Even between the blocks.
- Almost 20% undecided.


http://www.temo.se/Templates/Page____316.aspx
http://www.svd.se/dynamiskt/inrikes/did_12841630.asp

For the youth poll, Temo Synovate polled 2000 youths in the ages 18-21. 50% replied.

Resurrection
06-04-2006, 06:09 AM
Thanks for the update. Wonder how it's going for SD...

WolverineBlue
06-04-2006, 06:16 AM
Left Party: Don't give children homework.

The Left Party has proposed abolishing homework for children up to the age of 16, saying that it wants to compensate for differences in pupils' backgrounds.

Scrapping homework is one of the proposals put forward in the party's program for 'equality at school', which was presented on Wednesday.

http://www.thelocal.se/article.php?ID=3947


This has to be a joke.

Resurrection
06-04-2006, 07:07 AM
This has to be a joke.
Yeah, that was my first reaction too. Unbelievable.

Resurrection
06-04-2006, 07:08 AM
Christian Democrats: Give unhappy schoolkids a year off.

School pupils who are fed up with classroom life should be allowed to take a year or term 'sabbatical', according to a proposal from the Christian Democrats. The option should be available to all students who, for whatever reason, are not managing with school.

It would be a shame if they completely lost the desire to learn, explained the Christian Democrats' Inger Davidson in Svenska Dagbladet.

http://www.thelocal.se/article.php?ID=3984

signatory
06-07-2006, 05:24 AM
Some of the news...

GDP increased by 4,1% in the first quarter 2006

http://www.scb.se/templates/pressinfo____169701.asp

Moderates largest party among young people, Social Democrats 2nd, Sverige Demokraterna 3:rd

http://www.svd.se/go.php?ego/339/http://www.svd.se/dynamiskt/inrikes/did_12861816.asp

Pirate Party now @ 6000 members after raid on the Pirate Bay

http://www.dn.se/DNet/jsp/polopoly.jsp?d=147&a=550498&previousRenderType=6

Resurrection
06-09-2006, 02:23 PM
Thanks for the update. I have a gut feeling that things are going to downhill for the Pirate Party soon, seeing as how many of the parties are relaxing their attitudes towards file sharing. Could be totally wrong here though.

Resurrection
06-09-2006, 02:24 PM
Liberals drop nuclear demand.

The Liberal Party has said it is willing to drop its demand to allow an expansion of nuclear power to achieve a compromise deal with its partners in the opposition Alliance.

Party leader Lars Leijonborg said at a press conference on Friday that the party had agreed to a compromise as part of its ongoing energy policy negotiations with its Alliance partners the Moderates, the Centre Party and the Christian Democrats.

The deal means that the Liberal Party will not push for new nuclear power stations to be planned during the next parliament. However, the party would be able to bring its demands back to the table from 2011.

Leijonborg said the news meant there was a good chance that a deal would be struck.

http://www.thelocal.se/article.php?ID=4031

Resurrection
06-12-2006, 01:47 PM
Haha, check this party out.


Vulpin Liberals (http://www.vulpinliberalerna.typiskt.com/index-filer/page0008.html)



1: Sverige ska gå med i NATO, precis som vi redan är med i FN. FN-styrkor och ”specialforces” ska vara det vi är bäst på i internationellt samarbete.

2: Flygvapnet ska moderniseras, Svenskt flygvapen ska vara ett av de modernaste i världen. Vi ska ha 2 delar i flygvapnet. En landsförsvarande del baserad på JAS-39 Gripen och en offensiv del som sätts in i andra länder, baserad på Eurofighter 2000 och plan ur den Amerikanska F-serien.

3: Allmän värnplikt har alla medborgare mellan 16 och 30 år. Vid 20 år kan du få utbilda dig till officer.

4: Sverige ska ha en folkarmé där varje krigsduglig person ska ha sin stridsutrustning och sina vapen i hemmet, för att snabbt kunna mobilisera.

5: Sverige ska tillåtas att ha taktiska lätta kärnvapen som bärs av flygplan. Däremot inga ballistiska missiler.

6: Sveriges pansarförband ska förses med moderna Amerikanska stridshelikoptrar istället för stridsvagnar.

7: Nerlagda förläggningar ska startas upp igen.

8: Sveriges försvar ska kunna hjälpa insatsstyrkan som bekämpar djurplågeri.

9: Sveriges försvar ska tillhandahålla veterinärer som även hjälper sårade djur vid krig och katastrofer.

10: Den som är Nazist, med i Hells Angels eller har varit jägare ska inte få vara militär.

11: Landsförsvarande Gripenflottiljer ska ligga vid kusterna.

12: Sveriges flotta ska ha 2 hangarfartyg och 30 Trident u-båtar.

13: Sveriges Östkust och sydkusterna i Skåne samt Stockholms skärgård ska vara baser för flottan och ha sjömålsrobotar vid kusten och även några flygflottiljer vid kusten med helikoptrar och flygplan med sjömålsrobotar. Inne i landet ska finnas luftvärnssystem och varje större stad bör ha en egen flygflottilj.

14: Svenska soldater ska utbildas i modern krigföring och krigföring i så väl skog som urban terräng.

15: Specialstyrkorna ska ha ”James Bond prylar” i sitt arbete.

In English:


1: Sweden should become a member of NATO, just as we are members of the UN. Peacekeeping and "special forces" are going to be Sweden's specialities in the international arena.

2: The Swedish Air Force should be one of the most modern in the world. It will be composed of two parts:

#1 - For homeland defense; comprised of JAS-39 Gripen fighters
#2 - For offensive missions; comprised of the Eurofighter 2000 and jets from the American F-series

3: Conscription for all citizens between the ages of 16 and 30.

4: Sweden should have a people's army where every able person is to have their combat equipment and weapon stored at home, allowing for quick mobilization.

5: Sweden should be allowed to obtain aircraft-borne tactical nuclear weapons. No ballistic missiles however.

6: Sweden's armored regiments should be provided American attack helicopters, ultimately replacing main battle tanks.

7: All regiments, schools, and units that have been disbanded these recent years shall be started up again.

8: Sweden's defense should be able to help the task force in charge of combating animal cruelty.

9: Sweden's defence should provide veterinarians able to care for animals injured during a war or crisis.

10: Nazis, Hells Angels members, and hunters are barred from joining the military.

11: Air wings meant for homeland defense are to be located near the coast.

12: The Swedish Navy should be provided 2 aircraft carriers and 30 nuclear Trident submarines.

13: Sweden's east and south coast will be bases for the naval fleet, anti-ship missile batteries, air wings with helicopters, and anti-ship equipped fighters.

In addition to that, every major city should have its own air wing.

14: Swedish soldiers should be trained in modern warfare, able to operate in both a forest and urban environment.

15: Special forces should be provided "James Bond gadgets".

And they're serious from the looks of it.

signatory
06-12-2006, 01:55 PM
And they're serious from the looks of it.

Heh more likely not... like the other demands, to let children buy hasch @ age 15 and the radio should play more rock.. :)

some bored guy taking the piss @ politicans imo

khukuri
06-12-2006, 05:14 PM
Lefties steal the most.

Leftists are more prone to stealing than others. 1,000 randomly-selected Swedes from the ages of 15 and up were asked the question "Have you ever stolen anything?" by Sifo [an opinion and social research institute]. A whole 62% of Left Party supporters admit to stealing at least once.

"A possible explanation could be that our voter base is primarily made up of low-income takers and people from vulnerable groups in society," says the Left Party's information chief Jenny Lindahl Persson.

http://www.aftonbladet.se/vss/telegram/0,1082,67446494_852__,00.html (http://www.thelocal.se/article.php?ID=3947)


Haha, pretty strange...



I dont see whats strange with this? Its nothing new that the richer votes right... and that the poorer shoplift more... the rich do it in other ways;)

khukuri
06-12-2006, 05:16 PM
Heh more likely not... like the other demands, to let children buy hasch @ age 15 and the radio should play more rock.. :)

some bored guy taking the piss @ politicans imo


or the last one

15: Specialstyrkorna ska ha ”James Bond prylar” i sitt arbete.

Meaning: Special forces should have more James bond stuff in their kit... :D

Greek soldier
06-12-2006, 05:19 PM
12: The Swedish Navy should be provided 2 aircraft carriers and 30 nuclear Trident submarines.

rofl rofl rofl Of course! They should also get some Destroyers, LPD's, Hovercrafts and voilá! The Swedish Navy will conquer the world and spread Swedish genetics to Earth!

You made me laugh hard Res :lol:

Resurrection
06-14-2006, 11:17 AM
Haha, alright. :)

Resurrection
06-14-2006, 11:19 AM
Alliance agrees on energy policy.

The centre-right Alliance has reached agreement on energy policy, saying it will not close additional reactors in Sweden nor will it allow the construction of other plants until 2010 at the earliest.

“Finally, after 30 years of disagreement we have come to an understanding regarding energy policy, said Maud Olofsson, leader of the Centre Party on Wednesday.

http://www.thelocal.se/article.php?ID=4068

Bert
06-14-2006, 11:55 AM
He made one good point, though. Replace the tanks with helicopter gunships. Perhaps not so useful in Sweden, but that's definitely a good idea here.

Ask yourself - how much use is a tank in these places:

http://www.longpassages.org/images/Norway%20Geiranger%20fjord.jpg
http://www.mipsotour.fr/Geiranger.jpg
http://www.brodyaga.ru/images/Norway/Geiranger%201.jpg
http://www.jandis.no/images/photogallery/Norway/HardangerFjord.jpg
http://photos.derickrethans.nl/album/lofoten-panorama/aap.jpg
http://www.morganscloud.com/images/10085_mc_at_Skjomenfjord.jpg
http://www.morganscloud.com/images/10056_Henningsvaer.jpg

Not to mention that they're especially useless on Svalbard, the only geopolitical dispute we have except for the antarctic claims.

Resurrection
06-15-2006, 12:15 PM
Political blocs neck and neck.

Sweden's two political blocks are running neck and neck in the lead up to September's election, according to a poll published on Thursday.

State-run Statistics Sweden's survey showed that the centre-right Alliance parties would win between 47.7 and 50 percent of votes if the election were held today. The ruling left-wing bloc would have the support of between 46.7 and 49.1 percent.

http://www.thelocal.se/article.php?ID=4074

Resurrection
06-22-2006, 06:18 PM
The guy's actually mentally retarded from what I've read.


Here are some posters I just found... lol. They're cheap shots but what the hell. :p

http://img53.imageshack.us/img53/8527/poster18co.jpg
http://img525.imageshack.us/img525/174/goranpersson7ma.jpg
http://img472.imageshack.us/img472/3595/poster32ta.jpg
http://img231.imageshack.us/img231/1889/allaskamed9hp.jpg

Resurrection
06-26-2006, 10:45 AM
Persson's popularity picks up.

With less than three months to go before Sweden’s national elections, Prime Minister Göran Persson is in a dead heat with his chief contender, Moderate Fredrik Reinfeldt, according to a poll released on Monday.

Persson’s personal popularity has lagged behind that of his rival during previous months, but the new Demoskop poll shows the incumbent with the support of 40 percent of voters compared to Reinfeldt’s 39 percent.

This is a clear increase for Persson, a Social Democrat, who had support of 33 percent of voters during the last survey taken in April. Reinfeldt increased one percent since April.

http://www.thelocal.se/article.php?ID=4168

signatory
06-26-2006, 02:37 PM
Question to Swedes... will you vote for the same party in National, municipal and county elections ?

Resurrection
06-26-2006, 02:39 PM
Hmm... I think I should've added a poll from the beginning.

Storstark
06-26-2006, 03:07 PM
Question to Swedes... will you vote for the same party in National, municipal and county elections ?

Yep, Moderate's all the way. Other matching (in Haninge, Southern Stockholm) parties are too small or lacks the seriousness for a vote. Sadly, the Social Democrates have and will probably always rule in my municipality

Resurrection
06-26-2006, 03:11 PM
The small parties are the ones who need your vote the most.

Herrmannek
06-26-2006, 03:12 PM
is there a minimal chance a healthy conserative party will enter parliment or whatever you got there ?

Resurrection
06-26-2006, 03:17 PM
is there a minimal chance a healthy conserative party will enter parliment or whatever you got there ?
The Moderates are conservative (well, used to be) and they're the second largest party. So there is already one "conservative" party in parliament.

Sweden Democrats are also conservatives... in a different way. Maybe they'll get in, maybe not. The latest polls give them around 2-3% (correction?), at least 4% is required.

Storstark
06-26-2006, 03:24 PM
The small parties are the ones who need your vote the most.

The small parties are not serious enough for me. Most of them goes to election with only a single thing on their agenda, e.g. separate the part of the municipality I live in from Haninge. Sure it's a neat idea, but there are more important things to do.

Resurrection
06-28-2006, 04:56 AM
Ah okay. When you say "small parties", which ones are you talking about?

Resurrection
06-28-2006, 04:57 AM
Left Party: teach all girls self-defence.

Sweden's Left Party wants all girls to be offered 'feminist self-defence' training from the seventh grade, aged 13-14. Meanwhile, boys should attend courses in feminism.

The party is demanding that money be earmarked for self-defence for all girls, both at the compulsory and upper secondary levels, according to Svenska Dagbladet.

http://www.thelocal.se/article.php?ID=4189 (http://www.thelocal.se/article.php?ID=4168)

Superking
06-28-2006, 06:18 AM
Left Party: teach all girls self-defence.

Sweden's Left Party wants all girls to be offered 'feminist self-defence' training from the seventh grade, aged 13-14. Meanwhile, boys should attend courses in feminism.

The party is demanding that money be earmarked for self-defence for all girls, both at the compulsory and upper secondary levels, according to Svenska Dagbladet.

http://www.thelocal.se/article.php?ID=4189

I was raised by a woman, is that considered a "feminist course"?

The left needs to take a reality pill and STFU, it´s not expensive to pay for your own training and what will happen 10-15 years down the line? female supergangs roam the streets while pussyfied males hide at home watching "Sex and the city"....isnt feminism about equality? not affirmative action.

Storstark
06-28-2006, 01:14 PM
Ah okay. When you say "small parties", which ones are you talking about?

Parties that most people have not heard about.

http://www.haninge.se/templates/Page.asp?id=3979

Not much options for me. Västerhaninge-Tungelstapartiet is some sort of retarded farmers that want a own municipality, Haninge Partiet are like the Social Democrates.

Resurrection
06-28-2006, 01:33 PM
I was raised by a woman, is that considered a "feminist course"?

The left needs to take a reality pill and STFU, it´s not expensive to pay for your own training and what will happen 10-15 years down the line? female supergangs roam the streets while pussyfied males hide at home watching "Sex and the city"....isnt feminism about equality? not affirmative action.

Yeah seriously. But you know what they're trying to do right? Appeal to the F! voters.


Parties that most people have not heard about.

http://www.haninge.se/templates/Page.asp?id=3979

Not much options for me. Västerhaninge-Tungelstapartiet is some sort of retarded farmers that want a own municipality, Haninge Partiet are like the Social Democrates.

Ohh haha, now I understand. When you said "small" I was thinking Junilistan, SD, Piratpartiet, F! -small.

Storstark
06-28-2006, 01:36 PM
Ohh haha, now I understand. When you said "small" I was thinking Junilistan, SD, Piratpartiet, F! -small.

Ok :), but none of those parties are anywhere near my spectra.

Therefor, Moderate! p-)

Resurrection
06-29-2006, 07:16 AM
1/3 of all Social Democrats want Persson out.

One in three Social Democrat voters want prime minister Göran Persson to step down as party leader, a new poll has revealed.

Less than three months before the election, Persson commands the support of 59 percent of Social Democrats, according to the survey of just over 1,000 people conducted by Sifo on behalf of Swedish Radio.

http://www.thelocal.se/article.php?ID=4204

PeterG
06-29-2006, 07:40 AM
[QUOTE=Superking

The left needs to take a reality pill and STFU, it´s not expensive to pay for your own training and what will happen 10-15 years down the line? female supergangs roam the streets while pussyfied males hide at home watching "Sex and the city"....isnt feminism about equality? not affirmative action.[/QUOTE]

The feminists will probabaly be swiftly dealt with, when Sweden becomes the first islamic republic in scandinavia.p-)

signatory
06-29-2006, 07:45 AM
The feminists will probabaly be swiftly dealt with, when Sweden becomes the first islamic republic in scandinavia.p-)

Feminists and islamists work together pretty nicely it would seem.

And sweden wont become a islamic republic, more like 'New China Happy Sweden Limited'

Resurrection
07-01-2006, 07:16 AM
Hägglund re-elected as Christian Democrats party leader.

Christian Democrat leader Göran Hägglund was re-elected to his position by party members at their pre-election conference in Gothenburg on Saturday. Deputy chairwoman of the party Maria Larsson and second deputy chairman Mats Odell were also returned to standing ovations.

A controversial question was whether parliamentary deputy Chatrine Pålsson Ahlgren would keep her place on the party's executive committee. The party's electoral committee had not nominated her, saying it wanted new blood at the top of the party.

http://www.thelocal.se/article.php?ID=4227

signatory
07-04-2006, 02:56 AM
Alliance agree to remove the property tax

Interesting...


Press conf @ 11
http://www.svd.se/dynamiskt/inrikes/did_13106711.asp

Resurrection
07-04-2006, 08:26 AM
Good move.

http://www.thelocal.se/article.php?ID=4249

Resurrection
07-06-2006, 01:48 PM
Centre party wants to double immigration.

The Centre Party has said Sweden should introduce a Green Card system for worker immigration.

Under the proposal 20,000 people every year would be offered Swedish work permits. The visas would be issued at Swedish consulates abroad, where the education and backgrounds of the applicants would be considered.

http://www.thelocal.se/article.php?ID=4271

Resurrection
07-06-2006, 01:50 PM
Boaties face new booze laws.

Booze and boats don't mix. That's the message coming from Sweden's justice minister Thomas Bodström, who wants to drastically reduce the legal alcohol limit for people in charge of boats.

"It's wrong that we don't have a clear rule for drunkenness on the waterways," he told news agency TT. He wants the current limit for being found drunk in charge of a vessel to be reduced from 1.0 permille to between 0.2 and 0.5 permille.

http://www.thelocal.se/article.php?ID=4272

Resurrection
07-06-2006, 01:53 PM
EU negative over Persson's flight tax.

It is looking doubtful that Sweden’s proposed flight tax will ever happen, after the European Union commission that is studying the legality of the fee has asked several critical questions of the country’s government.

The flight tax, the product of an agreement between the Social Democratic government and the Green and Left Parties, would tax each passenger 94 kronor for flights within Europe, and 188 kronor for those traveling elsewhere. Passengers from certain airports in remote regions such as Pajala, Kiruna, and Gällivare are among those exempt from the tax that the government wants to start this fall.

http://www.thelocal.se/article.php?ID=4270


... "skattepåhittarverkstaden Sverige".

signatory
07-06-2006, 02:01 PM
^^ yea the flight tax is freaking retarded.


Left Party (V) demand stop to Weapons Export

Don't want coop with Israel and no export of Weapons to the USA or any other nations currently involved in Iraq and Afghanistan.

(V) voted against sending Swedish forces to Afghanistan.

http://www.svd.se/dynamiskt/inrikes/did_13134189.asp

Turhapuro
07-07-2006, 08:13 AM
Left Party: teach all girls self-defence.

Sweden's Left Party wants all girls to be offered 'feminist self-defence' training from the seventh grade, aged 13-14. Meanwhile, boys should attend courses in feminism.
:lol:

Woman will have to train very seriously for many years if they want to develop serious self-defence skills against men that overpower them with 20-30 kg.

Well, looks like lefties are loonies in every country.

Resurrection
07-10-2006, 05:40 PM
http://forum.soldf.com/index.php?showtopic=23079




Våran favorit Lars Ångström (Svenska Freds, Miljöpartiet och ledarmot i Förvarsutskottet) uttrycker vad han tycker om FM.


- Det är märkligt att man måste åka ner till ett svenskt förband i Liberia för att få uppleva känslan av att, vara riktigt stolt över att vara svensk, säger Lars Ångström (mp).
Från: http://www.mil.se/int/index.php?lang=S&c=news&id=33179

signatory
07-10-2006, 06:19 PM
http://forum.soldf.com/index.php?showtopic=23079

Hah I just read that article and though what a piece of ...


Photo: Lars Hedelin/PIC Viking 99
The broken rifle is the well known symbol for the peace movement. Swedish brigadier Bo Wranker took a close look at Mr. Lars Ångström´s anti war pin.


http://www.mil.se/pfp/viking99/ne1130_51.html

Bert
07-10-2006, 06:23 PM
That guy could cultivate a rainforest in his brows.

nitrogen
07-10-2006, 07:27 PM
So Ångström is a member of a peace organisation and commitee of defence... how the hell did he get a place there. Democracy at work?

nitrogen
07-10-2006, 07:44 PM
^^ yea the flight tax is freaking retarded.


Left Party (V) demand stop to Weapons Export

Don't want coop with Israel and no export of Weapons to the USA or any other nations currently involved in Iraq and Afghanistan.

(V) voted against sending Swedish forces to Afghanistan.

http://www.svd.se/dynamiskt/inrikes/did_13134189.asp

hmmm dont they want to rebuild afghanistan? I'd like to show them videos of talibans burning schools...

Resurrection
07-10-2006, 07:55 PM
So Ångström is a member of a peace organisation and commitee of defence... how the hell did he get a place there. Democracy at work?
Lol. Why they even allow active left-wing pacifists in the defence comittee is beyond me.

signatory
07-10-2006, 08:14 PM
hmmm dont they want to rebuild afghanistan? I'd like to show them videos of talibans burning schools...

yea they were the only party to vote no on sending and expanding our mission there. Their leader wrote about this before the vote explaining why:

in short: "It will not help bring peace. Sweden should not cooperate with USA"

http://www.vansterpartiet.se/PUB_LasseHarOrd/29842.cs

signatory
07-10-2006, 08:21 PM
Lol. Why they even allow active left-wing pacifists in the defence comittee is beyond me.

They need to be kicked out again. just cos they dropped the communist name doesn't mean they are any less of a threat to our doctrine.

The 4 alliance parties again called for the left and greens to be excluded after how they acted on the Air Force/Israel issue. I think the parliament decide this after a proposal by the sitting gov, but of course the current one won't suggest it.

Resurrection
07-11-2006, 04:06 AM
Yup, I fully agree with you there.


On another note... :|

http://www.svd.se/dynamiskt/brannpunkt/did_13167774.asp


Meh... I'm getting sick of these two blocks - I want to see some more diversity and new alternatives to choose between. Not to mention some true right-wingers/conservatives.

nitrogen
07-11-2006, 05:51 AM
Yeah, sweden needs the right block for a while. Although the reds have made some recent steps and promises to boost the private sector, they dont take globalization and making swedish industries competitive (with taxcuts) serious enough.

Also stopping weapon export to allies = not good for future contracts when they not "waging war"

"USA-koalitionen och FN-trupper har uppträtt i likadana bilar som hjälporganisationer. Skillnaderna har suddats ut vilket leder till allt fler attacker på hjälporganisationer och fredsbevarande trupp, som den bombattack som nyligen tragiskt dödade en svensk soldat och sårade flera andra."

LOL... they're wrong and contradicts themselves

Herrmannek
07-11-2006, 06:45 AM
I learned about Pirate party... cool shame they aren't conservative in other aspects :)

Resurrection
07-11-2006, 05:15 PM
Alliance politicians call for end to military service.

Four Alliance politicians have said they want Sweden to reconsider mandatory military service and have called for an end to punishment for those who don't want to participate.

Writing in Svenska Dagbladet on Tuesday, Eskil Erlandsson (Centre party), Ola Sundell (Moderate party), Allan Widman (Liberal party), and Erling Wälivaara (Christian Democrats) pointed out that during the 1980s most young men went through military training, but last year only 9,225 took part.

http://www.thelocal.se/article.php?ID=4307


My dislike for the Alliance just grew stronger. What a joke...

Storstark
07-11-2006, 05:25 PM
There is a problem with having the service mandatory when only 1/8 serves.
Don't you think?

They will never remove the duty that all men 16-47 has. If they are going to remove the mandatory military service, they need to scrape the low compensation they have now and give a normal salary. Otherwise they wont recruit any people.

Resurrection
07-11-2006, 05:26 PM
What are you suggesting we do?

Storstark
07-11-2006, 05:40 PM
I could go with a ~8-10 000 conscripts a year, not mandatory with a normal salary.

In my dream world at least 50% of all men should serve (the other 50% is in my eyes not suitable as soilders, maybe Volksturm though), but with more than the slave salary they have now.

Resurrection
07-11-2006, 05:45 PM
So you want a professional military then, with a strength of around 10,000 personnel?

Or did I misunderstand?

Storstark
07-11-2006, 05:53 PM
So you want a professional army then, with a strength of around 10 000 soldiers?

Well. 10 000 men standing army yes. But there would be several hundred thousand men to call in if needed. There would in theory be 10 000 x 28 men in reserve (10 000 men in all classes between 18 and 46).

These soldiers would also sign a contract to go to a few refresher courses to keep them in shape.

The rest of the population would make up a huge reserve for a swedish variant of the german volksturm.

Resurrection
07-11-2006, 05:58 PM
I see... interesting concept. That would actually be quite a susbstantial increase in sheer manpower compared to what we have now, right? Don't know about the volksturm thing though, would be pretty difficult to implement I can imagine.

Wonder what the politicians think. Try sending an email to them, if you want. :)

jerka71_1
07-11-2006, 06:05 PM
Why do you want the manpower?

Storstark
07-11-2006, 06:06 PM
Hehe :) There are a lot more soldier that could fight than they say. It is just that now a days they seem to have the men in the war organisation for just 5 years. I don't think there will (in the next 30years) ever be a lack of soldiers in case of war. The problem will be the future lack of equipement.

Resurrection
07-11-2006, 06:07 PM
Why do you want the manpower?

Quality and quantity go hand in hand.

Storstark
07-11-2006, 06:12 PM
It is always wise to have some sort of readiness. But of course, the most important task for the armed forces is to keep it's competence and to keep develope equipment/tactics. We have no real enemy today, but if we notice that the situation changes we need all the know-how we can to arm up again.

jerka71_1
07-11-2006, 06:16 PM
Quality and quantity go hand in hand.

If you mean as a base for recruiting I agree. But I do not agree that we get better quality the bigger we are.....unless of course more money!:)

signatory
07-13-2006, 04:03 AM
Demoskop poll out today, take it with a huge pinch of salt.

RW Alliance 51.5%
LW Gov coalition 44.3%

Close to a drop under the 4% threshold

Left Party 4.4%
Green party 4.2%

http://static.tv4.se/images/database/FileStorage/Nyheterna/4cb375d0-3516-4064-9b0c-f1bb329e040d.pdf

Resurrection
07-13-2006, 06:04 PM
Good news, thanks for the update. A question - traditionally, has Gotland's population been more red or blue?

Storstark
07-13-2006, 06:22 PM
I'm no Gotland expert, but my guess is that S has always (as in most parts of Sweden) been large. C should also always been a major party, as there is a lot of agriculture on the island.

From Gotland.se:

Centre party 13 members
Liberal party 4 members
Christian 3 members
Greens 4 members
Moderates 11 members
Social democrates 28 members
Left party 7 members
non-party bound 1 members

Resurrection
07-13-2006, 11:48 PM
Thanks.


Aftonhoran, after seeing the latest poll.

http://www.aftonbladet.se/vss/nyheter/story/0,2789,856490,00.html


"Operation Rädda Miljöpartiet" as someone from another forum so eloquently put it.

Resurrection
07-17-2006, 05:30 AM
Call to tackle 'honour culture'.

A leading Swedish Liberal has called for a ban on headscarves for Muslim girls under 15 and for an end to state support for religious schools, as part of a program to tackle what she calls an honour culture.

Nyamko Sabuni, a member of parliament and a board member of the Liberal Party, quoted a study from Stockholm University which claims that 100,000 girls and young women live under so-called 'honour oppression' in Sweden.

http://www.thelocal.se/article.php?ID=4346

Resurrection
07-17-2006, 05:35 AM
Storstark and other Swedes, you guys may find these SvD articles interesting.


Försvaret står redo - om tre år (http://www.svd.se/dynamiskt/inrikes/did_13221301.asp)
Inget mobiliseringsförråd kvar (http://www.svd.se/dynamiskt/inrikes/did_13221289.asp)
Försvarsexpert: ”Falsk varubeteckning” (http://www.svd.se/dynamiskt/inrikes/did_13221241.asp)

Resurrection
07-17-2006, 08:22 AM
Moderates call for focus on poor language.

The opposition Alliance bloc wants to spend 1 billion kronor on training hundreds of teachers to combat students' weak Swedish language skills.

The proposal, presented on Monday in Dagens Nyheter by Moderate Party leader Fredrik Reinfeldt and the party’s school policy spokesman Sten Tolgfors, said they want to double the number of teachers who receive special training to combat language deficiencies.

http://www.thelocal.se/article.php?ID=4347

Resurrection
07-19-2006, 07:32 AM
Ex-Soviet spy joins Left Party.

Convicted Swedish spy Stig Bergling, who once sold out his country to give classified information to the Soviet Union, has joined Sweden’s former-Communist Left Party.

The 69-year-old Bergling, now called Sydholt, is nailing his political colours to the mast for the first time. Since the start of the year, he has been regularly been visiting the Left Party’s local meetings in Stockholm.

http://www.thelocal.se/article.php?ID=4370

Resurrection
07-19-2006, 07:34 AM
Hagamannen gets 14 years.

Niklas Lindgren has been convicted of rape and attempted murder, and sentenced to 14 years in jail by a court in Umeå.

The verdict confirms that Lindgren was the Haga Man rapist, who carried out a series of attacks over a six year period in Umeå. He admitted carrying out three of the rapes, but denied two charges of attempted murder.

http://www.thelocal.se/article.php?ID=4368

signatory
07-19-2006, 12:41 PM
Stig Bergling and the Left Party... commies exploiting the weakness of democracy.

Resurrection
07-21-2006, 01:05 PM
Heh, check this out.

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Article: http://www.nsd.se/artikel.aspx?artid=17571&cat=1&pageIndex=0&arkiv=F%20%20alse

It's about 3 months old but still worth a read.

Fredrik
07-21-2006, 08:12 PM
Heh, check this out.
....
Article: http://www.nsd.se/artikel.aspx?artid=17571&cat=1&pageIndex=0&arkiv=F%20%20alse

It's about 3 months old but still worth a read.Hilarious, especially the part of "Enligt Honkamaa kommer socialdemokratiska partiet troligen att stämma Mikael Styrman för varumärkesintrång." in the following installment http://www.nsd.se/artikel.aspx?artid=17713&arkiv=False

It is just so damn easy to misinterpret what trademark the social democrats want to protect...rofl

Resurrection
07-22-2006, 08:24 PM
Hilarious, especially the part of "Enligt Honkamaa kommer socialdemokratiska partiet troligen att stämma Mikael Styrman för varumärkesintrång." in the following installment http://www.nsd.se/artikel.aspx?artid=17713&arkiv=False

It is just so damn easy to misinterpret what trademark the social democrats want to protect...rofl
Hahaha. :lol:

Resurrection
07-22-2006, 08:24 PM
http://www.aftonbladet.se/vss/ledare/story/0,2789,860622,00.html

:petting:

Stupid.

Resurrection
07-24-2006, 11:13 AM
http://www.youtube.com/v/T6lPJwEJEfQ

Resurrection
07-24-2006, 11:14 AM
http://www.youtube.com/v/xkaGV_mgBUk

signatory
07-24-2006, 11:46 AM
http://www.aftonbladet.se/vss/ledare/story/0,2789,860622,00.html

:petting:

Stupid.

Aftonpravdas opinionists are the worst sob's around.. especially Helle Klein.

Of the large publishers, TT and Aftonbladet alone is responsible for so much cr4p it's depressing :| even worse, TT is supposed to be neutral.

Bookmark: http://tt-kritik.blogspot.com/

Resurrection
07-26-2006, 11:29 AM
Helle Klein.


rofl

Herregud.


Aftonpravdas opinionists are the worst sob's around.. especially Helle Klein.
Är alla invandrare inkompetenta? (http://www.aftonbladet.se/vss/ledare/story/0,2789,220049,00.html)
Bästa vapnet mot terroristerna: fred (http://www.aftonbladet.se/vss/ledare/story/0,2789,454587,00.html)
Hungerstrejkande palestinier i kyrkan (http://www.aftonbladet.se/vss/ledare/story/0,2789,545027,00.html)
Ta den militanta rasismen på allvar (http://www.aftonbladet.se/vss/ledare/story/0,2789,567940,00.html)
Sverige hjälper Bush att exportera tortyren (http://www.aftonbladet.se/vss/ledare/story/0,2789,610095,00.html)
Palmes demokratisyn behövs i dag (http://www.aftonbladet.se/vss/ledare/story/0,2789,635928,00.html)
Sveriges samarbete med Israel för djupt (http://www.aftonbladet.se/vss/ledare/story/0,2789,652431,00.html)
Sverige bör driva plan "D", demokrati (http://www.aftonbladet.se/vss/ledare/story/0,2789,658931,00.html)
Svenska miljöskatter kan vägleda Europa (http://www.aftonbladet.se/vss/ledare/story/0,2789,707689,00.html)
Våga satsa på förorts-Sverige (http://www.aftonbladet.se/vss/ledare/story/0,2789,729265,00.html)
Mellanöstern - en "helvetes viktig fråga" (http://www.aftonbladet.se/vss/ledare/story/0,2789,831157,00.html)

:cantbeli:

I'm inclined to agree with you.


Bookmark: http://tt-kritik.blogspot.com/
Bookmarked! Nice blog.

Resurrection
07-26-2006, 11:36 AM
Confidence up in government and Alliance.

Confidence in both the Swedish government and the opposition has increased, according to a new survey by Skop.

"The government's figures are showing a distinct upward trend," said Skop analyst Birgitta Hultåker.

The same, however, was true of the opposition Alliance. Some 40 percent of those surveyed said they thought the four-party Alliance would do a better job if it was in power. The figure was up seven percentage points since May.

http://www.thelocal.se/article.php?ID=4426

Resurrection
07-26-2006, 11:37 AM
Social Democrats: expel Israel's ambassador.

A number of Social Democratic parliamentary candidates in Sweden are calling on the government to expel Israel’s ambassador in Stockholm as a show of protest against the Jewish state’s attacks on Lebanon. But Carin Jämtin, the overseas aid minister, says to do so would be “completely crazy”.

The nine candidates, who are standing for Sweden's parliament, the Riksdag, in the general election to be held on September 17th, accused the government of inaction.

http://www.thelocal.se/article.php?ID=4429

Resurrection
07-26-2006, 11:39 AM
Woman politician cleared of child rape.

An unnamed female politician who was accused of raping a 12-year-old boy has been found not-guilty by the Örebro district court.

The woman, who represents the Social Democrats in a municipal child and youth committee in a town in central Sweden, was said to have assaulted the boy starting in last November and ended in May. The boy told the prosecutor that the woman made him give her oral sex, but the woman denied those allegations during the trial.

She admitted to having the boy give her an oiled full body message, according to Aftonbladet.

http://www.thelocal.se/article.php?ID=4431

Resurrection
07-26-2006, 11:40 AM
Lots of news today, sorry for "whoring" the page.


Social Democrats to buy newspaper.

The Social Democrats plan to buy the majority stake in the most-read Swedish regional newspaper north of Uppsala, Norrländska Socialdemokraten (NSD).

The move comes after the paper's current owner, Norwegian company Orkla, announced it was selling its media arm to British investment company Mecom. This means that Mecom would own 49 percent of the paper.

http://www.thelocal.se/article.php?ID=4424

signatory
07-26-2006, 12:10 PM
Thanks for the update buddy.

Greek soldier
07-26-2006, 12:15 PM
Do all parties agree on sending Swedish troops in Lebanon (if an international force is requested)?

Resurrection
07-26-2006, 12:17 PM
Woman politician cleared of child rape.

An unnamed female politician who was accused of raping a 12-year-old boy has been found not-guilty by the Örebro district court.

The woman, who represents the Social Democrats in a municipal child and youth committee in a town in central Sweden, was said to have assaulted the boy starting in last November and ended in May. The boy told the prosecutor that the woman made him give her oral sex, but the woman denied those allegations during the trial.

She's the one in the red dress.

signatory
07-26-2006, 12:51 PM
She's the one in the red dress.






man wtf did the prosecutor only charge her with rape when they had so poor evidence? not even "ofredande" ? (El. tvång mot barn) those charges can be applied even without sexual contact.


Åklagaren grundar sin bevisning främst på förhör med pojken och hans närstående. Men kvinnan har också skrivit brev till pojken och fört dagbok över deras möten. Polisen har även gått igenom hennes dator och hittat uppgifter som stärker pojkens berättelse

Resurrection
07-27-2006, 02:00 PM
Reinfeldt backs Persson over Middle East.

A conservative government would not have reacted to the ongoing Middle East crisis any differently to Göran Persson's Social Democrat government, according to the leader of the Moderates, Fredrik Reinfeldt.

Reinfeldt said he wants Sweden to continue to urge restraint in the region, and that he has no objections to the Swedish government's response to the conflict.

http://www.thelocal.se/article.php?ID=4433


Right-wing my ass. How he can call himself and his party "conservative" all while keeping a straight face is beyond me.

Resurrection
07-27-2006, 02:04 PM
Unemployment rises in June.

Sweden's official unemployment rate rose to 6.3 percent in June from 4.8 percent in May as summer job seekers entered the market, but fell from 7.1 percent in June a year ago, Statistics Sweden said on Thursday.

The figure does not fully conform to the EU-harmonised Labour Force Survey as it omits certain groups of unemployed people.

http://www.thelocal.se/article.php?ID=4437

Storstark
07-27-2006, 02:18 PM
Right-wing my ass. How he can call himself and his party "conservative" all while keeping a straight face is beyond me.

It all PR. He is just saying what the majority of the swedes expects from him.
Remember that the Socialdemocrates have ruled almost alone for the last 60 years, just because the alliance might win the election, it does not mean that the swedes in general have gone anymore right (well, in a long time perspective they have, but so has the left parties), only that the right-wing parties have moved left.

Why do you think the moderates call them self, The new Moderates?


Sad but true.

signatory
07-27-2006, 02:55 PM
It all PR. He is just saying what the majority of the swedes expects from him.
Remember that the Socialdemocrates have ruled almost alone for the last 60 years, just because the alliance might win the election, it does not mean that the swedes in general have gone anymore right (well, in a long time perspective they have, but so has the left parties), only that the right-wing parties have moved left.

Why do you think the moderates call them self, The new Moderates?


Sad but true.

Ja...

Social Democrats and the Moderates have both gone more to the center.
And especially the Moderates who is eager to win the election and finally realised they need to come closer to the middle.

The Bildt Gov started too hard and crashed hard... it burned the Right for many years, (+ a stupid incident before the last election...) finally just now it seems like the Swedish people can accept a right-wing gov again. I hope they win, and I hope they rule in a right-wing spirit but calm and consistent, and more right for every year. If they have to whore themselves a little bit to make it work long-term then ok... I know the alternative is more terrible.

Bleh, much of the really sick decisions in Sweden is down to the parasites the left-party and Greens, they force gov decisions not even the Social Dems want.

Storstark
07-28-2006, 07:15 AM
You are so right my friend.

But, do you really blame the Bildt gov for the -90 crisis? In my opinion they just had bad luck. I would instead blem the Social democrates for having a all too bright belief in the future, resulting in untenable cash flows outwards. Maybe that the Bildt gov did not really have the know-how to solve the crisis, but they did one thing a S gov never would, asked for help.
There is even a S report from -99 or something like that which blames the S govs for the crisis.

And about Mp and V, I would rather see Fp and C abondoning the aliance than a new S, Mp and V coalition.

Hopefully one of them drops below 4%

signatory
07-28-2006, 07:55 AM
You are so right my friend.

But, do you really blame the Bildt gov for the -90 crisis? In my opinion they just had bad luck.

No I don't blame them for the financial crisis but I blame them for not anticipating a upcoming crisis and put too much energy on high profile projects, that could be used in the propaganda by the left to blame the gov for the crisis. (They even made it seem like allowing private hospitals was a reason we got 500% interest rates...)

The problem wasn't who was to blame for the crisis in the first place but who appeared weak and not able to control it when it happened. The famous TV news when Bildt sat next to Ingemar carlsson was a nail in the coffin scene , it looked like the gov was weak and needed support from the "old rule".


Hopefully one of them drops below 4%

Here here! woot

signatory
07-28-2006, 12:21 PM
Help :)

I'm going to do a Military questionnaire and send it out to the 7 parties in the parliament. Since it's summer time I will probably send it both to the election camps and to their representatives in the defense commiteé.

I need your help in suggesting some questions. I was thinking something easy, short to the point, and not too many.

Questions can be about the actual defense structure, supporting industy, doctrine, position on projects the military want but can't proceed with (C-17, YS-NY) etc.. anything relevant to the military.

As we know these are some sneaky uneducated bastards and they will avoid straight answers... but their positions is practically unknown (except for the green/left) and it's not an election issue as usual.... so I wanna flush them out a bit.

Write here or PM... no suggestion is too stupid, so SHOOT... p-)

jerka71_1
07-29-2006, 07:50 AM
Help :)

I'm going to do a Military questionnaire and send it out to the 7 parties in the parliament. Since it's summer time I will probably send it both to the election camps and to their representatives in the defense commiteé.

I need your help in suggesting some questions. I was thinking something easy, short to the point, and not too many.

Questions can be about the actual defense structure, supporting industy, doctrine, position on projects the military want but can't proceed with (C-17, YS-NY) etc.. anything relevant to the military.

As we know these are some sneaky uneducated bastards and they will avoid straight answers... but their positions is practically unknown (except for the green/left) and it's not an election issue as usual.... so I wanna flush them out a bit.

Write here or PM... no suggestion is too stupid, so SHOOT... p-)

For what purpose, work or just private interest?

signatory
07-29-2006, 08:19 AM
For what purpose, work or just private interest?

private. I figured it would be a good idea that people actually knew what policy they might actually vote on.

khukuri
07-29-2006, 12:56 PM
Reinfeldt backs Persson over Middle East.

A conservative government would not have reacted to the ongoing Middle East crisis any differently to Göran Persson's Social Democrat government, according to the leader of the Moderates, Fredrik Reinfeldt.

Reinfeldt said he wants Sweden to continue to urge restraint in the region, and that he has no objections to the Swedish government's response to the conflict.

http://www.thelocal.se/article.php?ID=4433


Right-wing my ass. How he can call himself and his party "conservative" all while keeping a straight face is beyond me.





Tactics! The social democrats looses supporters everyday because of its international policies. When the moderates go out and say hey this is good, the SAP looses even more votes.

Resurrection
07-31-2006, 10:46 AM
Aye... well said Storstark and signatory, thanks. It's going to be tough for the Alliance if they win the election.

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Congestion charge enters final hours.

The controversial trial of congestion charging in Stockholm entered its final hours on Monday, with the future of the tax still uncertain.

The trial, which started in January, which cost 3.8 billion kronor to set up, claims to have reduced traffic in and out of the city by 22 percent, and garnered 400 million in revenues, much less than expected.

http://www.thelocal.se/article.php?ID=4476


The undemocratic introduction of this road tax by the government deserves an explanation. What a waste of taxpayers' money... Just goes to show how much influence such a small and insignificant party like the Greens have in today's Sweden.

Resurrection
07-31-2006, 11:12 AM
"Förskolan främjar gamla könsroller bland barnen" (http://www.dn.se/DNet/jsp/polopoly.jsp?d=572&a=561499&previousRenderType=2)

Ah, more feminist-based brainwashing!


Hardly worth a government-sponsored inquiry, I for one can't remember experiencing a single thing mentioned in that article. In other words a non-issue. Reminds me of this (http://www.centrummotrasism.nu/Default.aspx?id=1216).


http://www.dn.se/DNet/jsp/polopoly.jsp?a=439744


Centret anklagas för slöseri med skattepengar och brist på verksamhet.

Hittills har Centrum mot rasism fått 14 miljoner kronor av regeringen, över hälften av statens särskilda satsning mot rasism. Men verksamheteten är så liten att föreningen inte lyckats göra av med pengarna. Under två års tid har centret inte genomfört någon egen granskning eller ******* om rasism, etniska trakasserier eller hatbrott.
Lägg ner skitet!

signatory
07-31-2006, 11:29 AM
"Förskolan främjar gamla könsroller bland barnen" (http://www.dn.se/DNet/jsp/polopoly.jsp?d=572&a=561499&previousRenderType=2)

More feminist-based gender communism for the people!

This is hardly worth a government-sponsored inquiry. I can't remember experiencing any of the things mentioned in this article.

I can't see her point either. We have mixed sex'd gymnastics, wood shop, sewing classes for all, domestic science (hemkunskap) where boys learn how to change diapers... I can't think of anything remaining in the national curricula that is specific to a gender.

But if she would like to force more girls into welding and technical courses then maybe she need to open up her own private school for this... my guess is, there will be about 1 person applying to that school.

Resurrection
07-31-2006, 05:31 PM
Haha, exactly.


Well what do you know, Linda Rosing is starting her own party, dubbed the "Unique Party" (:cantbeli:).

http://www.aftonbladet.se/vss/nyheter/story/0,2789,864139,00.html
http://www.expressen.se/index.jsp?a=644342


She's becoming desperate.

signatory
08-01-2006, 07:36 PM
Ok sharing what I found in my boredom tonight.... some of it will be old info but maybe something new.

A document (http://www.riksdagen.se/Debatt/200506/utskott/fou/fou1/fou1.pdf)written last year for budget '06. Show some of what the parties think about the military and also abt current and intended orders (YS NY, Air Defense, SAMs to Visby, AESA etc) with a new type of process where they think they can easier cut or add orders over time. I found that this doc had more info than the html pages on riksdagen.se.

The RW Alliance agree with the transformation of the military but wanted to increase spending to support international ops by sek 400 m. They did not suggest any other additional spending. On the material side, they were against the nEURON UCAV.

And the Greens long-term plan is basically for a unarmed defense, they want a civilian crisis management to fight things like Bird-flu and hurricanes and keep repeating their wish to remove the air force. They are against the "do more for less" idea and think the military should focus on fewer (and less violent) jobs.

The Left P and (S) didn't have any further comments to the (their) proposal.

(Pages 67+ cover the issue of procurements)
http://www.riksdagen.se/Debatt/200506/utskott/fou/fou1/fou1.pdf

Ps. it looks like YS NY "Surface warship New" has moved from planning stage to development stage unless something negative have happened since the release of this document.

Resurrection
08-05-2006, 11:01 AM
Very informative PDF, saved it to my hard drive. Thanks.

Resurrection
08-05-2006, 11:03 AM
Hägglund booed at Pride festival.

Christian Democrat leader Göran Hägglund was booed on Friday as he joined other party leaders in a debate on gay issues at the Stockholm Pride gay festival.

The debate was attended by leaders of all the parties, except for prime minister Göran Persson. To mark their disapproval, organizers RFSL declared that no other Social Democrat would be allowed to take his place.

In quick fire questioning, where each leader had to give their response in less than a minute, Hägglund was the only one not to tell the audience what they wanted to hear. His party says marriage should only be allowed for a man and a woman, and that gay couples should not be allowed to adopt - opinions that won him boos and heckles from the audience.

"I was prepared for boos, but I did not want to change my message just because I was here," Hägglund said after the two-hour session at a school in Stockholm's Södermalm.

http://www.thelocal.se/article.php?ID=4526

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So uh... where can I find this tolerance that they (RFSL/homos, etc.) so warmly advocate?


I found this quite positive though:

"The debate was attended by leaders of all the parties, except for prime minister Göran Persson. To mark their disapproval, organizers RFSL declared that no other Social Democrat would be allowed to take his place."

Resurrection
08-05-2006, 11:06 AM
Sweden could drop gay blood ban.

Gay men in Sweden may soon be allowed to give blood, when rules are revised in November.

As in most other countries, men are banned from giving blood if they have ever had sex with another man. The rule was introduced to prevent the spread of HIV.

http://www.thelocal.se/article.php?ID=4522

Resurrection
08-05-2006, 11:14 AM
http://www.knappnytt.nu/ShowEpisode.aspx?id=5

Klockrent. rofl

Superking
08-06-2006, 09:39 AM
Haha, skitbra.

Rösta på Kungen!!

ollevarm
08-06-2006, 10:29 AM
dom driver inte med sossarna så jag tyckte inte den var rättvis

Resurrection
08-08-2006, 06:34 AM
dom driver inte med sossarna så jag tyckte inte den var rättvis

Nä... ganska märkligt.

Resurrection
08-08-2006, 06:35 AM
Border guards 'should take child fingerprints'.

The identification system used to track border crossings of asylum seekers in the European Union could lower the minimum age at which a child’s fingerprints could be taken.

For years the minimum age for fingerprints to be loaded into the Eurodac system was 14. Now, several EU countries want to lower the threshold to 6-years-old, an age at which some believe will help better track the tide of immigration flowing into some countries.

http://www.thelocal.se/article.php?ID=4537

Resurrection
08-08-2006, 06:38 AM
Pirate Party 'larger than Greens'.

The Pirate Party claims it is now larger than the Green Party, with nearly 8,000 members.

The party, which campaigns to legalize file sharing, says it now has 7,729 members. The Green Party, one of the Social Democrats' key allies, now has 7,249 members.

The figures show a certain imbalance in the Pirate Party's membership: only 614 of its members are women, and most were born between 1980 and 1988.

The only requirement to become a party member is to send an SMS with personal details, which costs 5 kronor.

http://www.thelocal.se/article.php?ID=4542

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What's the likelyhood of one of the left-wing parties dropping below 4% in the election results do you think?

Resurrection
08-08-2006, 06:39 AM
Nuder promises property tax freeze.

Sweden’s finance minister Pär Nuder is proposing a freeze on property tax during 2007 and 2008. He said the Social Democratic-led government doesn’t need more than the 28 billion kronor taken in by the tax today.

”From a financial standpoint there is no reason to tax more than what we do today,” said Nuder. “I am eager to maintain the property tax, and since we now have the means, this is good to strengthen its legitimacy.”

The tax freeze would affect houses, owner-occupied flats and apartment buildings. The freeze could even take place in 2009, but Social Democrats would want to see an extensive tax study completed before that decision is made, something the ruling party plans to do during the next mandate period.

http://www.thelocal.se/article.php?ID=4543

signatory
08-08-2006, 07:24 AM
Pirate Party 'larger than Greens'.
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What's the likelyhood of one of the left-wing parties dropping below 4% in the election results do you think?
Sifo poll.. red=V


It doesn't look good for the Greens, they have a natural low under 4%..

hmm the Left Party, with Gudrun gone there's little chance of them attracting new voters except perhaps among the muslim population due to their anti-israel and welfare policy.. also I think they will attract some people because they sound radically more different than other parties. They natural low is not as bad as the greens though .. I think they will survive.

Look at the 91 and 94 elections.. especially Kd, mp and V...
http://sv.wikipedia.org/wiki/Svenska_riksdagsvalet_1991
http://sv.wikipedia.org/wiki/Riksdagsvalet_1994


"Nu är det du som, om opinionsundersökningarna har rätt, ska sitta där med en röd-grön röra, där du faktiskt får sitta i knät på fru Schyman eller herr Schlaug".

rofl

Storstark
08-08-2006, 04:10 PM
The Sweden Myth: http://www.mises.org/story/2259

Recently, the so-called Swedish model — that is, the Swedish economic system with high taxes and a big welfare state — has been celebrated again in the press.

The alleged recent success of the Swedish economy has allowed welfare statists both inside and outside of Sweden to argue that high taxes and an extensive welfare state are good for the economy. To fully understand this fallacy, we should review Sweden's economic history.

Interesting reading.

Resurrection
08-09-2006, 07:43 AM
Great info guys, thanks (I've actually been looking for an article like that these past few days Storstark). I don't know, doesn't look good for the Greens in any case.

Hahahah @ signatory's quote. Humor... :)

Resurrection
08-09-2006, 07:56 AM
Swedish arms exports boom.

Exporting Swedish weapons is a booming business. Even though the ruling Social Democrats have said they don’t approve of expanding such deals, billions of kronor are rolling into the country.

Last year Swedish companies exported 8.6 billion kronor worth of weapons, double what was exported just four years before.

...

Criticism of the booming industry is becoming louder.

“We export, to a greater extent, to countries that break human rights and are involved with war, said Ola Mattsson, spokesman for Svenska Fred.

http://www.thelocal.se/article.php?ID=4556

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Önskar att man kunde bara lägga ned skitföreningen.

Resurrection
08-09-2006, 08:02 AM
Hunters can shoot in silence.

It will be easier for hunters to use silencers on their rifle come this elk (moose) hunting season. Starting this October, thousands of hunters will be allowed to hunt in silence.

Clas Johansson, who is responsible for weapons questions at the National Police Board, is in full agreement with the rule.

“We are breaking out these rules from the others, and silencers will be allowed for use beginning the first of October,” he said, according to the Västerbottens-Kuriren on Wednesday.

http://www.thelocal.se/article.php?ID=4554

signatory
08-09-2006, 09:39 AM
Swedish arms exports boom.


Pilsäter from Fp spoke in media and said this increase is unacceptable.. they want us in NATO so maybe it's one of their angles.. kill the arms industry and force us to be dependant on others. :roll:

wtf the media btw, we sell so many self-defense "weapons" (camo nets, chaff/flares, radars) but all they ever talked about was grenade launchers and combat jets.

signatory
08-10-2006, 02:57 AM
Two polls out today. They show very similar results.
http://svt.se/svt/jsp/Crosslink.jsp?d=37092&a=636276
http://svt.se/svt/jsp/Crosslink.jsp?d=37092&a=636283&from=rss

Demoskop: 2-8 August.
m 30,4 (0,5) mp 5,2 (+1,0) fp 9,9 (+1,9) s 33,7 (2,0) kd 5,5 (0,2) v 6,9 (+2,5) c 4,6 (2,7) övr 3,8

Allians för Sverige 50,4 vs 45,8 Gov coalition
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Sifo: 26 July- 8 August.
m 26,7 (0,2) mp 5,9 (+0,7) fp 10,3 (+1,1) s 34,6 (3,0) kd 6,9 (+1,9) v 5,6 (0,5) c 6,6 (+0,4) övr 3,4 (0,4)

Allians för Sverige 50,5 vs 46,1 Gov coalition

The undecided/refuse to answer is still ~20%

signatory
08-11-2006, 09:08 AM
Another poll (a really worthless one), this time they asked a different question so the undecided/refuse to answer rate is much much lower at 9% the time span is also over almost an entire month.

"What party in domestic politics do you like the most?"

Skop: 12 July - 8 August

m 24,2 (25,3), fp 10,9 (12,0), c 7,2 (5,9), kd 6,8 (6,2), s 34,5 (36,2), v 5,9 (5,9), mp 6,6 (4,8).

Allians för Sverige 49,1 vs 47,0 Gov coalition

http://www.dn.se/DNet/jsp/polopoly.jsp?d=554&a=564413&rss=1400

Resurrection
08-14-2006, 05:00 PM
Sweden 'needs new intelligence organ'.

Sweden's intelligence and security agencies need to work more closely together to fight terror, Sweden's Liberal Party has said.

The party's spokesmen on justice and defence issues have called for a new Department of the Interior to be set up, which would be responsible for the nation's internal security.

"The Swedish attitude has long been naive," justice spokesman Johan Pehrson and defence spokesman Allan Widman write in Saturday's Svenska Dagbladet.

http://www.thelocal.se/article.php?ID=4584

Resurrection
08-14-2006, 05:01 PM
Reinfeldt demands more tax cuts.

Moderate Party leader Fredrik Reinfeldt has said the Alliance should propose more tax cuts in its joint election manifesto. Making a keynote speech in Vaxholm, near Stockholm, Reinfeldt also said he would adopt Social Democrat promises to spend more money on education and healthcare.

"We accept all the Social Democrats' proposals to improve public services, but we will battle against every rise in benefits and anything that makes it less worthwhile to work," he told his audience.

The Moderate Party is the largest member of the four-party Alliance, which has a slight lead in most opinion polls ahead of the September 17th election. Reinfeldt is expected to be prime minister in any Alliance government.

http://www.thelocal.se/article.php?ID=4586

Resurrection
08-14-2006, 05:04 PM
Ohly: government must stop following US policy.

The leader of Sweden's Left Party, Lars Ohly, fiercely attacked the government's foreign and criminal justice policies in a summer speech at the launch of his party's election campaign outside Gnesta on Sunday.

Ohly demanded that the visa requirement for Lebanese people should be abolished and that Israel be 'isolated'.

According to the Left Party, Israel is guilty of 'state terrorism'.

http://www.thelocal.se/article.php?ID=4591

Resurrection
08-14-2006, 05:08 PM
More trust Reinfeldt as PM.

More people have confidence in Moderate Party leader Fredrik Reinfeldt as Sweden's next prime minister than have confidence in the current incumbent, Göran Persson.

Of the 1,000 people questioned by Sifo, 47 percent said they had greatest confidence in Reinfeldt, while 39 percent thought Persson was best for the job, according to Dagens Industri.

Respondents were asked: "who do you have greatest confidence in as prime minister following the election?"

http://www.thelocal.se/article.php?ID=4595

Resurrection
08-14-2006, 05:34 PM
Don't really feel like translating right now.


Aina ska locka förortskidsen.



En polisbil med slangordet för polis, ”aina”, ska locka förortskidsen till poliskåren.

– Polisen vill ta tillbaka ordet och avdramatisera det. När de använder ett ord som miljonprogramsungarna använder skapar det en närhet, säger Zanyar Adami, chefredaktör för tidningen Gringo.

Polisen kommer under ungdomsfestivalen Ung 08 nästa vecka att ha en monter där de visar upp den omtextade polisbilen. Målet är att locka unga med olika etnisk bakgrund till poliskåren.

Satsningen på att locka nya grupper till polisen är också ett led i att motarbeta ungdomsbrottlighet.

http://metro.se/se/article/2006/08/11/08/1250-23/index.xml


Kan man fjäska mer för invandrarna? Så jävla patetiskt.

signatory
08-15-2006, 08:00 PM
^ lol

Social Dems accuse the Moderates in Stockholm for wanting to sell all hospitals after the election

The Moderates spokesman reply: "biggest load of BS I've heard"

http://www.dn.se/DNet/jsp/polopoly.jsp?d=1298&a=565489&rss=1400

rofl (S) is quite desperate in Stockholm...

signatory
08-16-2006, 01:05 PM
sweep 6543

signatory
08-17-2006, 07:47 PM
"Alliance for Sweden pulling ahead"
Left-Party at lowest support in 12 years.

http://www.dn.se/DNet/jsp/polopoly.jsp?d=2390&a=566021&rss=1400



Let me know if it's a waste of time posting polls here.

signatory
08-17-2006, 08:09 PM
Moderates has a higher possibility to gain new voters than Social Dems

http://www.dn.se/DNet/jsp/polopoly.jsp?d=554&a=566020

51% of the electorate has a positive view of the Moderate Party compared to the 47% on the Social Democrat party. The least popular party among all voters is SD with 7%.



(they made a typo ^ The bottom m is of course for Mp the greens)

Resurrection
08-18-2006, 12:15 PM
Let me know if it's a waste of time posting polls here.

Not at all, I myself have a hard time finding graphs so you've been very helpful. It's just a shame that so few visit this thread, especially when the election is only a month away.

Resurrection
08-18-2006, 12:21 PM
Sweden could ban mobiles behind the wheel.

The Swedish National Road Administration is set to once again study the effects of mobile phone use while driving, after reports have trickled in during the past few years showing phone use is more of a safety hazard than previously thought.

“Reports have come in recent years that show there might be big risks with mobile telephones,” said Ingemar Skogö, general director of the Administration, according to Swedish Television.

http://www.thelocal.se/article.php?ID=4625

Resurrection
08-18-2006, 12:28 PM
Persson promises 930 kronor a day to jobless.

The Social Democrats have said that they will raise the maximum level of unemployment benefit to 930 kronor a day if they win the general election, as they launched their manifesto on Friday.

The proposal means that people still in work will be subsidizing the handouts to a tune of 3.5 billion kronor a year. In total, the promises in the manifesto from Sweden's ruling party are calculated by the party to cost 25 billion kronor.

"Everyone wins when we support each other. Unemployment is not the fault of the unemployed. People on sick pensions have often slogged away during a long working life. When things are going well for Sweden we want to make things better - not worse - for people who are most vulnerable."

http://www.thelocal.se/article.php?ID=4637

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Why work when you can just hang out at home and collect $130 USD a day?

I found this poster especially fitting (from here (http://www.flashback.info/showthread.php?t=335302)):

PrinzEugen
08-18-2006, 03:11 PM
Persson promises 930 kronor a day to jobless.

The Social Democrats have said that they will raise the maximum level of unemployment benefit to 930 kronor a day if they win the general election, as they launched their manifesto on Friday.

The proposal means that people still in work will be subsidizing the handouts to a tune of 3.5 billion kronor a year. In total, the promises in the manifesto from Sweden's ruling party are calculated by the party to cost 25 billion kronor.

"Everyone wins when we support each other. Unemployment is not the fault of the unemployed. People on sick pensions have often slogged away during a long working life. When things are going well for Sweden we want to make things better - not worse - for people who are most vulnerable."

http://www.thelocal.se/article.php?ID=4637

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Why work when you can just hang out at home and collect $130 USD a day?

I found this poster especially fitting (from here (http://www.flashback.info/showthread.php?t=335302)):




That poster is so true it´s not even funny.
I dont post much but I apprisiate the effort you two are doing, (Res and Signatory). As you said, elections comming up.

signatory
08-18-2006, 03:28 PM
Thanks PE.. yeah hmm is this social dems tactic again to hand over the country when it's soon time for a recession ? Their election campaing seem a bit mild and the manifesto pretty weak.. it's like they are not trying very hard. smells a bit like '91, although I don't actually remember much from that year :)

Morboute
08-18-2006, 03:29 PM
I think im gona quit my job if thats how its gona be. rofl

Probably vote on the Pirate Party p-)

nitrogen
08-18-2006, 06:14 PM
What will the alliance and reds do with the swedish defence? Havent heard much duscussion of that, someone enlighten me please...

signatory
08-18-2006, 06:42 PM
What will the alliance and reds do with the swedish defence? Havent heard much duscussion of that, someone enlighten me please...

Ok I read up on this over the weeks... :)

reds will do nothing... stay on the course they have chosen

The alliance agree with the reds on the transformation of the military but will significantly increase international ops and their aim is to have 2000 troops out on mission in 2-3 large ops (+ a few smaller) at the same time they wish to make the EU Battle Group permanent. And have enough airlift and re-inforcement capability to support the 2000 troops + EU battle group. (Yes, you heard me... at the same time) :)

The Government has only agreed to put the EU battle group in readiness for one time (1jan 2008 to 30 july 2008) like I said the Alliance want to make this a permanent force.

In order to do all this they will the first year add 400 million, the next year 500 million and the 3rd year 1150 million to the military budget in support of international operations. In addition to this they claim to be prepared to properly equip the forces (they stand positive on the C-17 issue).

They also want to see more use of the other branches of the military on international missions, air force and navy. (This is already suggested by the Military in the 2007 budget)

They also wish to first remove military service refusal as a crime, and they want the military to investigate again if the mandatory service should be removed.

Not on paper but suggested in media is the transformation of the Defense department to a "Security department" (Säkerhetsutskott) which is responsible for not only the military but also nuclear safety and other civilian areas important to the nation. If they need to deploy military choppers in case of a evacuation etc.

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http://www.maktskifte06.se/fileadmin/Upload/Alliansen060502.pdf (http://img144.imageshack.us/my.php?image=fredrikreinjq1.jpg)
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askDNA
08-18-2006, 06:50 PM
$130USD/day!?!??! I need to move.

nitrogen
08-18-2006, 07:27 PM
Thx Signatory for the summary. Helluva big airlift for the entire EU BG? Maybe u meant only support...


(my vote is on the alliance, too bad the farmers (c) are in)

LotN
08-18-2006, 09:09 PM
First of all, good work on this thread.

Regarding the defence issue, i'm guessing that the "alliance" also wants to shift money from domestic to international operations, cause the 400+500+1150 will not be enough to support that. I like the idea though.



$130USD/day!?!??! I need to move.

That's the max you can get, so if you're hich paid and lose your job you might get 130/day, most unemployed recieve far lesser. (still far too much though)


Students need more money though!

signatory
08-18-2006, 09:58 PM
First of all, good work on this thread.

Regarding the defence issue, i'm guessing that the "alliance" also wants to shift money from domestic to international operations, cause the 400+500+1150 will not be enough to support that. I like the idea though.



not sure, maybe.. eventually.. since it's on top of the ordinary budget for intl operating costs. Also their idea was to cut the number of places we're in, since it doesn't cost much more to put out a full batallion vs just 200 men + easier when the airlift don't have to supply missions all over the world...

The alliance also criticized the Gov in the 2006 budget for not returning billions they had to save in a earlier surprise cut... a promised extra 1 billion to support international missions didn't come either. So hopefully if the RW win the military will get to keep the budget without sudden surprises like that, plus some extra money for intl ops... Also the Gripens and Visby class will be fully delivered, freeing up money.


Current budget plan.
the 400, 500 and 1150 would be added on top of that per respective year.

So starting 2009 it would be up to 3 billion. Is it enough ? I don't know... at least they want to add money and thus win my vote. p-)

signatory
08-18-2006, 10:08 PM
Here's some info about that broken promise...

http://www.dn.se/DNet/jsp/polopoly.jsp?d=1042&a=392567



Publicerad 18 mars 2005

Löftet tycks ha kommit någon gång i december.

I förhandlingarna förra hösten mellan regeringen och de borgerliga partierna spelade kostnaden för den nya stridsgruppen i EU en avgörande roll. De borgerliga ville bland annat ge försvaret ersättning för de då oväntade kostnaderna att bygga upp stridsgruppen. Regeringen sade nej till de borgerliga. Försvaret skulle självt tvingas att ta extrakostnaden, var beskedet.

I stället stödde sig regeringen mot vänstern och miljöpartiet och drev igenom ett beslut om snabb bantning av försvaret med tre miljarder till utgången av 2007. Men nu räknar försvaret ändå med att få sammanlagt en extra miljard under tre år, medger planerarna något motvilligt. Frågan är politiskt känslig och pengarna är ännu osäkra.

:roll:

LotN
08-18-2006, 10:32 PM
AFAIK Sweden has a defence budget @ around 40 Billion SEK, where does it all go? Massive cutbacks have been made but we still arent that more active internationally.

The army (mobilized) has gone from what 10+ divisions to 2+ mech. brigades, and for that cutback we maybe have doubled or tripled our international capabilities.

signatory
08-18-2006, 11:02 PM
AFAIK Sweden has a defence budget @ around 40 Billion SEK, where does it all go? Massive cutbacks have been made but we still arent that more active internationally.

The army (mobilized) has gone from what 10+ divisions to 2+ mech. brigades, and for that cutback we maybe have doubled or tripled our international capabilities.

37,4-38.7 Billion (should be 40 but then came the surprise "temporary" cuts)

21 billion = Bases, HQ/agency operations, international ops
17 billion = Equipment, R&D

Split this way:

Army 9,4 billion, The Marine 4.7 Billion, The Airforce 11,6 billion. HQ get 2 B, R&D/Edu ~1 B... Int & Domestic Ops get 3.7 B...Home guard 1 Billion... etc

All n all about 9 billion is personell costs. :|

signatory
08-18-2006, 11:47 PM
SIFO Poll 14-17 August

Allians för Sverige 51,6 % vs. 44,5 % Gov Coalition

Also in the poll: 25% of Women don't know yet or don't want to say.


Vänsterpartiet 5,9 (+0,3), socialdemokraterna 34,1 (-0,5), miljöpartiet 4,5 (-1,4), centerpartiet 4,9 (-1,7), folkpartiet 11,1 (+0,8), moderaterna 28,6 (+1,9), kristdemokraterna 7,0 (+0,1), övriga 3,9 (+0,4).

http://www.svd.se/dynamiskt/inrikes/did_13506449.asp

Resurrection
08-19-2006, 12:06 AM
SVT interviews a couple of citizens on what they think about the manifesto which the Social Democrats launched today. A party leader debate follows.

http://svt.se/svt/road/Classic/shared/mediacenter/index.jsp?d=55344&a=641475


Note what Göran Persson does at 17:16 - priceless! And I thought I'd let you guys know that I wouldn't mind spending a night with Maria Wetterstrand.


Btw, thanks PrinzEugen and LotN.

nitrogen
08-19-2006, 06:13 AM
And I thought I'd let you guys know that I wouldn't mind spending a night with Maria Wetterstrand.

No, you wouldnt...p-)

LotN
08-19-2006, 09:11 AM
You asked for it :D

Resurrection
08-19-2006, 11:54 AM
Haha wow huge pics, thanks. They don't do her justice though. :p






If only I could convert her...

Resurrection
08-19-2006, 12:00 PM
Akut kris för Migrationsverket.

Inströmningen av asylsökande, i synnerhet irakier, libaneser och statslösa, är just nu så kraftig att anställda på Migrationsverket i Malmö går på knäna. Från att ha skrivit in 100 till 250 asylsökande per månad under första halvåret, har antalet asylsökande nu exploderat. Senaste sex veckorna har Migrationsverket i Malmö tagit emot 750 asylsökande, och är därmed myndighetens hårdast belastade enhet i landet. Bara i helgen kom 90 personer.

Många irakier har beviljats uppehållstillstånd senaste tiden och enligt Beijer kan det vara så att familjemedlemmar som varit gömda följer efter och söker asyl.

Konsekvensen av den kraftiga tillströmningen är att handläggningstiderna förskjuts ifrån målet på sex månader.

Blir ärendena ordentligt utredda?
- För närvarande utreder vi ingenting vilket gör att beslutsmaterialet kan bli dåligt. Just nu är vi enbart inriktade på att registrera in folk, säger Lars Weinhagen.

http://www.metro.se/se/article/2006/08/18/08/4555-22/index.xml

Wall
08-19-2006, 02:28 PM
Are there any real rightist party?

Storstark
08-19-2006, 02:41 PM
Depends what you compare with. With other european countries they are quite the same. Maybe somewhat more to the middle (Im convinced thats just status quo due to the upcomning election, fishing votes).

But comparing with US they are much more leftish. Many european countris have mixed economy, and in the forefront Sweden along with the other nordic countries.

signatory
08-19-2006, 02:51 PM
Are there any real rightist party?

Hah! I think we will just have to sadly accept that Sweden is moving towards real US style two block / partisan style of politics on the national level... and pretty soon our voter turnout will be equally shi-tty because neither block present anything new. It's been a long time since the Republicans were conservative or "real right"...

on a local level there's more room for different opinions.. and IMO the state should stay out of the provinces as much as possible..

Greek soldier
08-19-2006, 02:55 PM
Are there any real rightist party?

No. Both Left and Right have become a bit of transexual emos. Don't know about Sweden and Scandinavia in general, but in the other countries of Europe (Greece included) you see the right parties re-enacting socialism and the left ones neo-liberalism (liberal meaning Thatcherism et al = privatizations...)

signatory
08-19-2006, 07:50 PM
This pdf from Temo illustrate who is the undecided voters (http://www.gi-ihr.su.se/ovrigt/NicklasKallebring.pdf#search=%222002%20os%C3%A4kra%20v%C3%A4ljare%22)

In short: Women, unfaithful leftists, LO unionists.

LotN
08-19-2006, 08:39 PM
This pdf from Temo illustrate who is the undecided voters (http://www.gi-ihr.su.se/ovrigt/NicklasKallebring.pdf#search=%222002%20os%C3%A4kra%20v%C3%A4ljare%22)

In short: Women, unfaithful leftists, LO unionists.

In other words, we're ****ed again. :-(

signatory
08-19-2006, 08:57 PM
In other words, we're ****ed again. :-(

Unless TV3 decides to show a Sex in the City marathon that day... :roll:
I think we can make it if there's at least +5% in the polls.

Hm

LotN
08-19-2006, 09:02 PM
Unless TV3 decides to show a Sex in the City marathon that day... :roll:
I think we can make it if there's at least +5% in the polls.

Hm

The polls doesnt say how many who say that they arent gonna vote, hence we cant say how many of the total these undecided are.

Looks like it gonna be tight though.

signatory
08-19-2006, 09:40 PM
Looks like it gonna be tight though.

Yea...bored today so here's the average poll results from this week (5 polls)

c 5,72
kd 6,14
fp 10,6
m 27,54

c+kd+fp+m = 50,0 %

s 34,92
v 5,84
mp 5,36

s+v+mp = 46,12 %

:( 50,0% is too close to a minority gov

signatory
08-19-2006, 10:41 PM
Fp leader says muslim fundamentalism is a growing problem in Sweden

'Religious schools should not be allowed to accept money from Saudi Arabia'

'visa to the Hamas leader and cancelling the jet exercise with Israel was wrong'

Original Interview: http://sydsvenskan.se/val2006/article179121.ece
TT wire (the rest of the interview was not interesting enough for them to publish): http://www.svd.se/dynamiskt/inrikes/did_13511727.asp

Resurrection
08-19-2006, 11:08 PM
Fishing votes from the SD crowd I see...

signatory
08-19-2006, 11:30 PM
Fishing votes from the SD crowd I see...

Yeah he's trying to save his party in that region... now just watch Helle Klein and other crazy women go on the attack in some morning TV sofa rofl

signatory
08-20-2006, 12:42 AM
2006-08-16 01:00:00
V och mp vill ha blyförbud
En enkät som facket vid Normas ammunitionsfabrik skickat till de politiska partierna visar att miljöpartiet och vänsterpartiet vill fullfölja beslutet som leder till totalförbud av bly i jaktammunition.
http://www.jagareforbundet.se/news/v_och_mp_vill_ha_bly.asp

idiots...

YankeeDoodle
08-20-2006, 12:58 AM
If Sweden wants prosperity, then get government out of business.

Government should act as a referee only and prevent monopolies and crime. Free Market Capitalism using strict Rule of Law is a tried & true method for improving the lives of any countries people. Socialism is a total disaster and leads to Communisn, Nazism, and all those wonderful promises that one can live well off the efforts of others. So the best political approach IMHO is to vote in those who will secure Freedom. They will lead Sweden to take the long hard road to real growth & prosperity without the typical Socialist state crap of trying to satisfy every special interest group.

Read the "Road to Serfdom" by F. A. Hayek, he explains the mechanics of why Socalism doesn't work and why it will never work. He wrote it back in 1942-44 about the Nazis, but it still applies to most European and about 40% of American goverance.

signatory
08-20-2006, 10:06 PM
Temo/DN (http://www.dn.se/DNet/jsp/polopoly.jsp?d=2390&a=566611&rss=1400) survey showing the growth or decline in electorate opinion.

Only M gained in popularity since '04 while the rest have gone negative.

signatory
08-21-2006, 03:14 AM
:roll:


Vänsterpartisten Lilly Näslund misslyckas med att fly från polisen.

http://expressen.se/index.jsp?d=2325&a=661619

Superking
08-21-2006, 03:50 AM
2006-08-16 01:00:00
V och mp vill ha blyförbud
En enkät som facket vid Normas ammunitionsfabrik skickat till de politiska partierna visar att miljöpartiet och vänsterpartiet vill fullfölja beslutet som leder till totalförbud av bly i jaktammunition.
http://www.jagareforbundet.se/news/v_och_mp_vill_ha_bly.asp

idiots...

This will kill off blackpowder shooting for sure (and BBguns :P).....when i go to the US in a few months i might just get a job and stay.

Superking
08-21-2006, 05:05 AM
:roll:


Vänsterpartisten Lilly Näslund misslyckas med att fly från polisen.

http://expressen.se/index.jsp?d=2325&a=661619

WTF!? They where attacking people under the banner "Vi vill se ett Mellanöstern präglat av fredlig samexistens, demokrati och respekt för mänskliga rättigheter" (We want to see a middle-east in peacefull co-existance, democracy and respect for human-rights)

These lefty f*cko nutjobs are just what they claim to hate, a bunch of fascists with a notable love for mayhem and violence.

This is our leftwing politicians practicing democracy and freedom of speach?

signatory
08-21-2006, 05:34 PM
WTF!? They where attacking people under the banner "Vi vill se ett Mellanöstern präglat av fredlig samexistens, demokrati och respekt för mänskliga rättigheter" (We want to see a middle-east in peacefull co-existance, democracy and respect for human-rights)

These lefty f*cko nutjobs are just what they claim to hate, a bunch of fascists with a notable love for mayhem and violence.

This is our leftwing politicians practicing democracy and freedom of speach?

And they did it at the Raoul Wallenberg Monument... classy. Real classy.

Notice how that leftist psychobitch has been arrested for other violent acts too that had no relation to the middle-east issue at all. Using violence against any issue (sometimes she has to invent them.. like "fascism" )...

another example of the failed healthcare system under the Social Dems.

signatory
08-21-2006, 08:05 PM
Real election posters from http://www.feministisktinitiativ.se/



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And one just for fun... or is it real too ?

signatory
08-21-2006, 09:32 PM
' Left-Party at 3.6% '

woot

DN/Temo (http://www.dn.se/DNet/jsp/polopoly.jsp?d=2390&a=566889&rss=1400)

LotN
08-22-2006, 12:26 PM
”Vilket parti skulle du rösta på i riksdagsvalet om det var val i dag?”
Procent 2006 14-17/8

s. 34,1
v. 5,9

mp 4,5

m. 28,6
c. 4,9
fp. 11,1
kd. 7,0
jl. -

Övriga 3,9
Total 100,0

Andel röstberättigade
som röstar blankt eller
ej anger parti, procent: 20,0

http://www.sifomedia.se/ri/public/Dynamic/ArticleFile.aspx?FileId=2330abf3-e478-49ee-8a81-02879c0a4197

Luno
08-22-2006, 12:36 PM
Does any one know when Swedes that lives abroad can start to vote?

Resurrection
08-22-2006, 01:35 PM
' Left-Party at 3.6% '

Vanderful!

But then there's the aspect of tactical voting...


Does any one know when Swedes that lives abroad can start to vote?


Rösta från utlandet – när, var, hur?

Här hittar du som är bosatt utomlands frågor och svar om hur du går tillväga för att utnyttja din rösträtt i riksdagsvalet 2006.

Hur kan jag rösta i utlandet? Du kan brevrösta eller rösta på ambassad eller konsulat. Vad gäller för att få brevrösta? Alla som är utomlands kan brevrösta från utlandet. Du kan beställa brevröstningsmaterial från Valmyndigheten eller från en ambassad eller ett konsulat.

Brevrösten får postas tidigast 3 augusti i utlandet. Brevrösten ska ha kommit till Valmyndigheten senast dagen efter valdagen, dvs den 18 september. Din brevröst måste postas från utlandet för att bli godkänd.
Read more here (http://www.sviv.se/index.php/publisher/news/action/summary/frmArticleID/323/singlearticle/1).

orange
08-22-2006, 01:41 PM
FI scares the hell out of me...

And I seriously hope that Vänsterpartiet gets kicked out of the goverment! I mean, Lars Ohly seems way to confused to be a party-leader...

Resurrection
08-22-2006, 01:52 PM
FI scares the hell out of me...

Mmm... be very afraid.

http://video.google.com/googleplayer.swf?docId=-3474779572903795740

orange
08-22-2006, 01:59 PM
Mmm... be very afraid.
Dang! Didn't even know that it was that bad...

But it's nice in a way! They want more rights for women but none for the men... Equal thinking!

Resurrection
08-22-2006, 02:35 PM
Haha, our favorite leftist Lilly Näslund is at it once again, just a day after her last arrest.









Vänsterextrema skapade kaos i Kungsträdgården

Kaotiska scener utspelade sig i kväll i Kungsträdgården. Kravallutrustad polis, hundpatruller och hundratals vänsterextrema ungdomar kantade en manifestation om fastighetsskatten.

- Vi har omhändertagit ett 30-tal personer, säger Björn Engström vid Stockholmspolisen.
http://expressen.se/index.jsp?a=663261

signatory
08-23-2006, 01:38 AM
”Vilket parti skulle du rösta på i riksdagsvalet om det var val i dag?”
Procent 2006 14-17/8

s. 34,1
v. 5,9

mp 4,5

m. 28,6
c. 4,9
fp. 11,1
kd. 7,0
jl. -

Övriga 3,9
Total 100,0

Andel röstberättigade
som röstar blankt eller
ej anger parti, procent: 20,0

http://www.sifomedia.se/ri/public/Dynamic/ArticleFile.aspx?FileId=2330abf3-e478-49ee-8a81-02879c0a4197

thanks, I guess that makes it:

51,6 vs 44,5

it's annoying how c, mp, v and kd can swing -/+ 30% in support all the time.

Btw, this time in 2002 the red/greens had 52.5% against 46 % ...

signatory
08-23-2006, 08:11 AM
pdf files

Allians för Sverige Manifesto (http://www.maktskifte06.se/fileadmin/Upload/pdf/Valmanifest_2006.pdf)



Also:


Social Demokraterna Manifesto (http://www.socialdemokraterna.se/upload/Central/dokument/pdf/Socialdemokraternasvalmanifest2006.pdf)

Vänster Partiet Manifesto (http://www2.vansterpartiet.se/val/upload/material/valp.pdf)

Miljöpartiet html manifesto (http://mp.se/templates/Mct_78.aspx?avdnr=5&number=93955)

signatory
08-23-2006, 09:08 PM
Ruab poll (http://www.svd.se/dynamiskt/inrikes/did_13541444.asp) 12-22 Augusti

s 40,4 procent (+3,2 jämfört med junimätningen), v 4,6 (-0,9), mp 4,6 (-1,7), m 29,1 (-1,3), fp 8,7 (+0,3), c 5,1 (+0,1) och kd 5,0 (+0,3).

Allians för Sverige 47,9 vs 49,6 Gov

Of 2 110 asked: 1272 gave a party. 690 unsure, 80 won't vote, 68 blanks

Resurrection
08-24-2006, 01:39 AM
Good... even better is that I'm sure pretty sure they're talking about utlandsstyrkan, i.e. not including the NBG. Just like you said a few pages back.


Ruab poll (http://www.svd.se/dynamiskt/inrikes/did_13541444.asp) 12-22 Augusti

s 40,4 procent (+3,2 jämfört med junimätningen), v 4,6 (-0,9), mp 4,6 (-1,7), m 29,1 (-1,3), fp 8,7 (+0,3), c 5,1 (+0,1) och kd 5,0 (+0,3).

Allians för Sverige 47,9 vs 49,6 Gov

Of 2 110 asked: 1272 gave a party. 690 unsure, 80 won't vote, 68 blanks

So... all the polls show a considerable right-wing lead, except this one. :cantbeli:How many do the other agencies typically interview?

signatory
08-24-2006, 02:38 AM
So... all the polls show a considerable right-wing lead, except this one. :cantbeli:How many do the other agencies typically interview?

About the same.. but Ruab is often the odd one, don't present often enough, and the article said they don't measure like the other ones.. so bah

Resurrection
08-24-2006, 02:43 AM
Swedish criminals spending longer time behind bars.

Swedish criminals are facing stricter sentences than they did 10 years ago, according to recent statistics from Sweden’s Prison and Probation Service.

During the past decade, the average prison sentence has gone up 60 percent. Last year the average was 14 months for the 4,700 law breakers convicted, an increase from from 10 years ago where 4,000 prisoners faced on average nine months behind bars, according to Dagens Nyheter.

http://www.thelocal.se/article.php?ID=4671

Resurrection
08-24-2006, 02:44 AM
New skyscraper set to grace 'Malmhattan'.

Malmö, already home to Sweden's tallest skyscraper, looks set to become Sweden's high-rise capital, after plans for a 180-metre tower were unveiled this week.

The plans are part of a project to create a "district of the future" in the Hyllie area of the city. A competition to design the new district was set up by Malmö City Council.

The winning design came from a Danish architectural team. It incorporates a shopping centre, an arena, a station and apartment blocks.

http://www.thelocal.se/article.php?ID=4673


Very interesting... skyscrapers have never been very popular here in Sweden for some reason.

Resurrection
08-24-2006, 02:58 AM
Alliance manifesto targets jobs and environment.

Sweden's opposition Alliance put the focus on jobs and the environment as it presented its first ever joint manifesto on Wednesday. The leaders of the four centre-right parties emerged from the hotel near Stockholm where they had been negotiating, to present reforms valued at 27 billion kronor.

The parties said they planned to tackle youth unemployment with tax cuts costing 3.7 billion kronor. These include halving payroll tax for young people who are long-term unemployed. This would be funded partly by not adopting the Social Democrats recently announced rises in unemployment benefits and study grants.

"This is a job manifesto, in contrast to the Social Democrats' benefits manifesto," said Moderate Party leader Fredrik Reinfeldt, the presumptive prime minister in any Alliance government.



The Alliance said it would reduce income tax.


The environment also figured large in the new document. New green programmes would cost 3.5 billion kronor during the next parliament. They would include 1 billion kronor for climate research and other climate-related investments. Tax breaks on eco-cars would be introduces and a strategy to deal with the ocean environments would be developed.


Equality programmes worth 2 billion kronor would be started during the next parliament. These would include research programmes on women's health and initiatives to help women entrepreneurs.


In education, 1.7 billion kronor would go towards more special needs teachers, increased individual support for pupils and programmes to improve reading, writing and arithmetic.


In other promises, one percent of Sweden's GDP is to be spent on research, the real-terms value of child benefit will be protected, higher education will be strengthened and housing benefit for the retired and the early retired will be increased.


The manifesto also includes a proposal for improving immigrants' knowledge of Swedish, although it stops short of requiring immigrants to speak the language before becoming a Swedish citizen.

http://www.thelocal.se/article.php?ID=4670

Resurrection
08-24-2006, 03:10 AM
Persson backs out of debate at last minute.

Sweden's prime minister, Göran Persson, has dropped out of a scheduled televised debate with Moderate Party challenger Fredrik Reinfeldt at the last minute, claiming that he doesn't have time.

The debate was due to take place on SVT on Wednesday evening, following the launch of the Alliance's election manifesto. A similar debate between the two leaders had taken place after last week's launch of the Social Democrat manifesto.

http://www.thelocal.se/article.php?ID=4676