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He219
05-18-2003, 01:37 PM
Hood, here is another one...

http://www.dzkom.net/e_SAT-SAS.htm

http://www.dzkom.net/images/im_big/sat30.jpg
QCB
http://www.dzkom.net/images/im_big/sat22.jpg
US trained SAT and SAS teams
http://www.dzkom.net/images/im_big/sat74.jpg
http://www.dzkom.net/images/im_big/sat9.jpg
http://www.dzkom.net/images/im_big/sat54.jpg[/img]

Enjoy!

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He219

Piccolo
05-18-2003, 03:38 PM
I'm assuming these are the same guys that tried to make their way into Iraq undetected, but were caught by US Forces?

JohnJohn
05-18-2003, 07:42 PM
hah Piccolo you beat me to it! rofl

cut
05-18-2003, 10:49 PM
doesn't that reflect badly on the US troops that trained them? :P

JohnJohn
05-18-2003, 11:15 PM
its not our guys fault if these guys can't learn :lol:

LOL, maybe our special forces who trained these types hold back on what training is shared in case this type of situation ever arises ;)

Can't wait to see the Gravish special ops :P

He219
05-19-2003, 12:53 AM
JohnJohn, that is precisely the reason why I wanted to learn more about them. And no, they were well into Iraq and attempted to breach the perimeter of Kirkut. Of course they were serving Turkey's self interests. Peshmerga forces entered northern Iraqi cities and widescale looting followed along with the confiscation of homes at gunpoint contrary to promises made to the US. It was Peshmergas as well as Iraqis that took liberties looting. Twelve armed Turkish SF members escorting humanitarian aid shipments to Turkmen in Iraq is hardly subversion. The date and the facts reflect this.... The first SAT team was trained in 1963 by a UDT team from Coronado. They are US trained and are NATO allies.
http://www.dzkom.net/images/im_big/sat78.jpg
Look vaguely familiar (BUDS)??


24.04.2003 | Associated Press

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Report: Turkish special forces team caught trying to sneak into Kirkuk

NEW YORK (AP) American forces caught a Turkish special forces team trying to sneak into the northern Iraqi city of Kirkuk, Time magazine reported Thursday on its Web site.

The magazine reported that a dozen Turkish soldiers, dressed in civilian clothes and trailing an aid convoy, were detained Wednesday by the U.S. Army's 173rd Airborne Brigade.

Col. Bill Mayville, the brigade commander, was quoted as telling Time that he believed the Turkish team was sent in to inflame local ethnic Turks, who already have tense relations with the city's Kurds and Arabs.

''They did not come here with a pure heart,'' Mayville was quoted as saying. ''Their objective is to create an environment that can be used by Turkey to send a large peacekeeping force into Kirkuk.''

U.S. Central Command heard reports of the alleged detention of Turkish forces entering Kirkuk and was looking into them, Lt. Cmdr. Charles Owens told The Associated Press on Thursday.

The magazine reported the Turkish team put up no resistance when they were stopped at a checkpoint. Time said the Turks carried AK-47s, grenades, body armor and night-vision goggles in their cars.

American commanders in the city believe the covert Turkish team was meant to inflame these kind of tensions. "These [Turkish] forces are tied in to Turkoman groups in the city," says Col Mayville. The 173rd Airborne commanders suspect an amalgam of local Turkoman parties under the banner of the Iraqi Turkoman Front (ITF) were to be used by the covert team to wreak havoc. "In this first convoy was real aid. They'd do this two or three times then money or weapons would have started flowing in. We suspect their role was to strongarm or discipline the members of the ITF. What they're doing is crystallizing the ITF along the Turkish agenda," says Col. Mayville.

By Wednesday U.S. paratroopers were holding 23 people associated with the Turkish Special Forces team. Some were drivers and aid workers. But a dozen of them, says Col. Mayville, were identified as soldiers. "We held them for a night, brought them in, fed them and watched their security. After all," he says wryly, "they are our allies." Early Thursday morning American troops escorted the Turkish commandos back over the border


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He219