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Jenius
05-08-2006, 05:56 PM
Israel would be something like this...
http://www.wimp.com/britain/

Doesn't this suit the 'wiped off the map' idea? Let this be a reminder that Iran can't obtain nukes!!!

b.t.w, can anyone spot e.t?

Fee Fi Fo Fum
05-08-2006, 06:08 PM
Was that some kind of Cold-War scenario?

Off-Topic: Some of the hair and clothes on that video where funky, the 80's never did know well did they.

constantinople
05-08-2006, 06:13 PM
hopefully that never happens...

Bert
05-08-2006, 06:22 PM
No, Israel will shoot down Iran's missiles which are either cold war relics from Russia or in-house developed from north korea. Then they'll launch their basket of, say 300 nukes at Iran. We'll point and laugh.

SAPPEROIF
05-08-2006, 06:26 PM
I really hope we don't go to war with Iran......it will be messy..I'll go willingly...but it will be messy.

mogsniper94
05-08-2006, 06:27 PM
He was melting like a snickers bar under a blowtorch.!!!!!

PSU_Jew
05-08-2006, 06:28 PM
Bloody hell, I think he crapped himself.

koozya
05-08-2006, 06:41 PM
not good very not good

Mr.K
05-08-2006, 07:39 PM
Is it "The War Game" but in color? That movie was banned from TV.

Jani.R
05-08-2006, 08:18 PM
Is it "The War Game" but in color? That movie was banned from TV.

No

That is "Threads" which is old british movie (80s, bit earlier than Day After) and shows the outcome of Nucler War between Soviets & Americans.

And do you know what was the reason for the war in the movie? Iran. p-)

iGrooCk
05-08-2006, 08:25 PM
ouch.......

Seiran
05-08-2006, 08:29 PM
He was melting like a snickers bar under a blowtorch.!!!!!

Speaking from experience?? lol

Ghostwolf
05-08-2006, 08:46 PM
Right, and don't forget Israel has nuclear weapons as well, and a lot more than Iran can poop out of its rear end in a year.

Jani.R
05-08-2006, 08:59 PM
Right, and don't forget Israel has nuclear weapons as well, and a lot more than Iran can poop out of its rear end in a year.

The most realistic estimation for Irans nukes is 2011-2014.

evanfitz
05-08-2006, 08:59 PM
I think anyone near in sight of an 80 megaton nuclear warhead would be either melted or overwhelmed by the intense heat.

btw, I like the part where ET is melting.

tobigforyou
05-08-2006, 09:08 PM
if Iran got the bomb:
http://www.olsza.krakow.pl/~freeze/foto/lake_america.jpg


pcture this but in iran

DE_Six
05-08-2006, 09:14 PM
Geez, thank G-d the Cold War never went "hot"...Talk about mutually assured destruction (MAD doctrine, how fitting).

I was just (re-)watching The Fog of War the other day. To think we came that close more than once...

On topic though, Iran's rhetoric is one thing, I don't think they would launch a first strike on Israel. He may sounds crazy, but Ahmadinejad is rational enough (let's hope) to know it would be the end of Iran. There's going jihad and going jihad...

I think Iran wants the bomb primarily to be a regional power and to protect itself from attacks (from the US, but eventually from other countries as well).

The nuclear club is already too big for the common good of humanity. Let's hope they never get it.

Blarney
05-08-2006, 09:27 PM
If Iran got the bomb...we'd need a newer version of Dr. Strangelove.

MK-ULTRA
05-08-2006, 09:28 PM
Well, from a rational point of view based on regional balance and politics, and since Israel and Pakistan has nuke, it is kind of "common sense" for Iran to seek nuke weaponnery.

But I think Israel won't even allow them to have the technical hability to produce them and will bomb the facilities before they get to build a single one, has they have done in 1981 (?) with Iraq (bombing of Osirak reactors with F-16s).

After all, the actual president of Iran, Ahmadinejad, said that Israel was "heading toward annihilation"...

Generation Kill
05-08-2006, 10:02 PM
And why would Afghanistan be turned into a lake if Iran got the nuke?
I was hoping to see a lake in place of Iran, as most likely the U.S would attack it if they got nukes

Azide
05-08-2006, 10:16 PM
And why would Afghanistan be turned into a lake if Iran got the nuke?
I was hoping to see a lake in place of Iran, as most likely the U.S would attack it if they got nukes

Agreed, tobigforyou be more origional next time.

Jenius
05-08-2006, 10:24 PM
And why would Afghanistan be turned into a lake if Iran got the nuke?
I was hoping to see a lake in place of Iran, as most likely the U.S would attack it if they got nukes

I don't think he had a picture for Iran in lake form so he used the Afganistan one to give you the idea. He also says 'picture this but in Iran'. Read the whole thing :-|

QRO?
05-08-2006, 10:25 PM
If this was from the 80's, the producers must have had pretty speculative version of the "superfires" model already available, because they estimated that a 200+ MT landing on GB would put 2/3 of houses in the "fire zones". I'm highly sceptical, because the whole superfires theory is a pacifist nuclear weapon disarmament lobby invention which takes the wooden houses of Tokyo, Hamburg and Dresden (cities which hadn't been burned down completely for hundreds of years and so were mainly of old wooden construction), alledges that dropping a few high KT, low MT range nukes on them would cause enough hot spot fires over the whole area of high calorie IR radiation absorption, and for the fires to sustain themselves to create firestorms of hurricane wind velocities. More credible military theories based on simulations that take into account the much less wood structures in modern cities as well as the blast effect collapsing houses and mixing any flammable materials with huge amounts of dirt and inflammable debris, show that superfires are highly unlikely in most of the high devastation footprint.

But then again, hopefully we will never get empirical validation to either theory...

AmericanImperialist
05-08-2006, 10:28 PM
The most realistic estimation for Irans nukes is 2011-2014.
o rly?
.........

QRO?
05-08-2006, 11:09 PM
The most realistic estimation for Irans nukes is 2011-2014.I'd like to know whose estimate. FAS and ISIS estimate 2009 the earliest, if Iran is really doing it or is going to start tomorrow. But how "realistic" are these estimates when there is no information available to confirm or even strongly suggest that Iran is pursuing nukes instead of fuel?

I'mOnlyHalfPolish
05-08-2006, 11:13 PM
one thing ive wondered, would the palestinians and the arabs (persians too i guess) be willing to have the palestinian people turn into "collateral damage" for a bid to destroy Israel? since im assuming many would be killed in a bombing as well? probably doesnt really matter to the types that would wanna do this anyhow, just a thought

Airborneranger4israel
05-08-2006, 11:45 PM
whats with et?

Jenius
05-08-2006, 11:47 PM
whats with et?
Small film budget p-)

Jenius
05-09-2006, 12:30 AM
Actually, I should have changed the title of this thread from 'If Iran got the bomb' to 'When Iran gets the bomb', if the UN keeps this diplomatic agreement crap up. I don't think sanctions will stop them either. That's not going to stop Iran. An ultimatum, maybe. They're that crazy. I wonder when the fireworks will fly over Tehran, if you know what I mean.

Bert
05-09-2006, 12:55 AM
one thing ive wondered, would the palestinians and the arabs (persians too i guess) be willing to have the palestinian people turn into "collateral damage" for a bid to destroy Israel? since im assuming many would be killed in a bombing as well? probably doesnt really matter to the types that would wanna do this anyhow, just a thought
Seeing as the palestinians have no qualms about strapping a bomb belt on their young ones and sending them to die in Tel Aviv, I highly suspect so.

a_very_ex_STAB
05-09-2006, 04:00 AM
Was that some kind of Cold-War scenario?

Off-Topic: Some of the hair and clothes on that video where funky, the 80's never did know well did they.
It was from 'Threads' broadcast on TV in Britain in the early '80s. I remember seeing it as a teenager.
Terrifying stuff seeing your familiar environment being blasted even when it's just on TV.

PaddyASCUK
05-09-2006, 05:02 AM
"Threads" was about the effects of a nuclear bomb on Sheffield. Sadly, it was a work of fiction and Sheffield still stands :(
Sheffield was chosen as the centerpiece for the story, as at the time, South Yorkshire Council, led by "Red" David Blunket had declared itself the "Peoples Republic of South Yorkshire" and also a "Nuclear Free Zone" and the BBC were trying to be ironic I think

david2999
05-09-2006, 06:06 AM
hopefully that never happens...
almost did though :|
http://stanislavpetrovtribute.ytmnsfw.com/

a_very_ex_STAB
05-09-2006, 06:24 AM
"Threads" was about the effects of a nuclear bomb on Sheffield. Sadly, it was a work of fiction and Sheffield still stands :(
Sheffield was chosen as the centerpiece for the story, as at the time, South Yorkshire Council, led by "Red" David Blunket had declared itself the "Peoples Republic of South Yorkshire" and also a "Nuclear Free Zone" and the BBC were trying to be ironic I think

What the evil liberal, commiefornicating, jihadi-sympathizing BBC taking the mick out of a left winger - surely you cannot be serious

astro
05-09-2006, 09:53 AM
Wow what a memory trip. I've never forgotten seeing this as a kid, and being sent to bed as it was just *too* scarey! (or too much of a reality check?)