splinter pattern camouflage

[arctrooper]

I was woundering about this camouflage pattern if anyone still use this kind of camouflage. If so you anyone tell me about this camouflage pattern like what are the advantages and disadvantages are. what kind of environment does it blends in too.

[Juusto]

http://www.battlefront.com/resources/poc/_images/full/sweden02.jpg

Swedish M/90 is angular pattern, however it doesn't include those "raindrops" from NVA's strichtarn pattern. Angular shapes are rarely seen in nature, so in my opinion it's not good shape for camouflage pattern.

http://www.wehrmacht-awards.com/forums/showthread.php?p=911166
Little about strichtarn pattern ^

[Resurrection]

http://img69.imageshack.us/img69/8273/swedishcamo9lw.jpg


How's this? Works just as well in the jungles of Liberia as it does in the forests of Sweden.


Liberia:

http://img69.imageshack.us/img69/2268/204027030428985zu.jpg

http://img174.imageshack.us/img174/9051/w051107091dm.jpg

http://img174.imageshack.us/img174/678/w051212047px.jpg


Sweden:

http://img132.imageshack.us/img132/2866/ksp5nc.jpg

http://img212.imageshack.us/img212/5568/presvplf21a0ts.jpg

http://img236.imageshack.us/img236/5851/p8170041resized0bc.jpg



Desert version:

http://img236.imageshack.us/img236/198/uppslannwebbigdesert5je.jpg

http://img363.imageshack.us/img363/2636/fs09sammanstott5ml.jpg

http://img363.imageshack.us/img363/7236/fs11v617eod56sm.jpg
http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/newreply.php

[Resurrection]

Angular shapes are rarely seen in nature, so in my opinion it's not good shape for camouflage pattern.

Since when does that render the pattern ineffective? Are pixels found in nature? No. So obviously the CADPAT/MARPAT patterns must also be ineffective right?

[Resurrection]

Our helicopters and ships have splinter camouflage as well.

http://img167.imageshack.us/img167/8168/swedishhkp15resize2ko.jpg

http://img224.imageshack.us/img224/4980/dsc13752ls.jpg


And a while ago even the Viggen.

http://img225.imageshack.us/img225/152/sista37eplatta9pe.jpg

http://img225.imageshack.us/img225/4697/start7106mn.jpg

[East Scout]

http://www.battlefront.com/resources/poc/_images/full/sweden02.jpg

Swedish M/90 is angular pattern, however it doesn't include those "raindrops" from NVA's strichtarn pattern. Angular shapes are rarely seen in nature, so in my opinion it's not good shape for camouflage pattern.

http://www.wehrmacht-awards.com/forums/showthread.php?p=911166
Little about strichtarn pattern ^

Id have to agree w/ the other guys as well...Its effective...Ive witnessed 15 or German WWII Splinterpattern Zeltbahn tents in the shadows in a tree line and they just disapeared.......

[Juusto]

Since when does that render the pattern ineffective? Are pixels found in nature? No. So obviously the CADPAT/MARPAT patterns must also be ineffective right?

There is reason for pixelation of CADPAT/MARPAT. There is no doubt that M/90 is effective camo, but I think that it would be little better with rounder shapes. (particularly at close range) Or can you tell me one good reason for choosing angular shapes instead of rounder shapes? (other than identifying friendly forces)

[East Scout]

There is reason for pixelation of CADPAT/MARPAT. There is no doubt that M/90 is effective camo, but I think that it would be little better with rounder shapes. (particularly at close range) Or can you tell me one good reason for choosing angular shapes instead of rounder shapes? (other than identifying friendly forces)

Ive heard its easier to print from the printing screens......

[Hullebullen]

There is no doubt that M/90 is effective camo, but I think that it would be little better with rounder shapes. (particularly at close range)

No camo is effective at close distance, no matter how much pixels it has or how round it is. If you view the M90 or any pattern of that type from a distance the angular shapes tend to blend together, providing effective camouflage. Apparently, (although I have no source readily available for this, I just read it somewhere, can't remember where), the large pattern on the M90 gives better camouflage when viewed through a NOD compared to smaller patterns...

[IRISH RANGER]

i think the new american well its not that new but the digital camo is not only cool looking but it works!!

[Resurrection]

i think the new american well its not that new but the digital camo is not only cool looking but it works!!
This thread is about splinter camouflage.

[IRISH RANGER]

This thread is about splinter camouflage.

i understand that was just saying it works better thon that one your talking about and so does our own irish DPM noting in nature is shaped evenley and that one is all square!!??rofl

[Resurrection]

i understand that was just saying it works better thon that one your talking about and so does our own irish DPM noting in nature is shaped evenley and that one is all square!!??rofl

Oh... my... god. I'm not even going to dignify that with a response.

[East Scout]

IMO All the German Splinter camo worked great. (Not the NVA Splinter).Especialy the Marsh pattern. I think one key to its effectiveness is that is has no black in it and lets the shadows do the black for its self...

[IRISH RANGER]

Oh... my... god. I'm not even going to dignify that with a response.

cool thanks anyways............

[Resurrection]

IMO All the German Splinter camo worked great. (Not the NVA Splinter).Especialy the Marsh pattern. I think one key to its effectiveness is that is has no black in it and lets the shadows do the black for its self...
Yeah. I found this interesting piece of info.


http://www.kamouflage.net/camouflage/en_00024.php


Although blue might seem to be an unusual choice of colour, for a tactical camouflage pattern, it was chosen specifically because it simulates shadows.

[FozzieBear]

angular shapes break up the outline of the human silouhette (cant spell that for shiat) camo against humans is a lot different to camo against animals, blending in with natural shapes in nature isnt so important in camo used against humans, because the human brain works in a different way, thats why pixelated camos are so effective compared to something like realtree, but if you put it the other way round say for hunting realtree is a lot more effective than pixelated camos, basically the shape of the camo doesnt matter because at certain ranges its going to blend in anyway, at short distances camo doesnt work because its easier to see the outline of the human body, anyway you probably all think im talking crap, and im not a camo expert or anything but thats just what ive learned and thats my 2 pennies. ps i think colour choices are a lot more important than pattern choices...

[IRISH RANGER]

angular shapes break up the outline of the human silouhette (cant spell that for shiat) camo against humans is a lot different to camo against animals, blending in with natural shapes in nature isnt so important in camo used against humans, because the human brain works in a different way, thats why pixelated camos are so effective compared to something like realtree, but if you put it the other way round say for hunting realtree is a lot more effective than pixelated camos, basically the shape of the camo doesnt matter because at certain ranges its going to blend in anyway, at short distances camo doesnt work because its easier to see the outline of the human body, anyway you probably all think im talking crap, and im not a camo expert or anything but thats just what ive learned and thats my 2 pennies. ps i think colour choices are a lot more important than pattern choices...

Your dam wright there mate colour playes a very big part but i think shape has jus as big a part in some casees......

[bluffcove]

The human eye will identify the human outline, provided that the boundary between background and person is sufficently disjointed the DPM can be any design.

[arctrooper]

Thats cool what about the raindrops in the splinter camouflage pattern how does the raindrops help the camouflage does anyone know

[maple.leaf]

This Whole Thread Is Dumb. :(

[East Scout]

Thats cool what about the raindrops in the splinter camouflage pattern how does the raindrops help the camouflage does anyone know

I dont think it does much on standard splinter but on the Marsh pattern it (IMO) distorts the colors giving the whole thing a blurry/fuzzed out/hindered look,,Kinda like you might have looking through grass or bushes....IMO it works well........

[East Scout]

This Whole Thread Is Dumb. :(

Most threads are dumb and they are gay..even the threads I start are dumb and they are gay........90% of the threads in this subject are dumb and they are gay....Its just gay.

[Amandil]

Speaking of "gay" threads, here are some "gay" posts I made on the Bundesgrenzschutz Sumpftarn (marsh splinter-style pattern of the German Border Police back in the 80s or so) a while back.

http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/showthread.php?t=41931&page=41

[supercontra]

Angular shapes are rarely seen in nature, so in my opinion it's not good shape for camouflage pattern.

On the contrary, at a distance everything in nature looks angular (go out and check for yourself). There are however seldom right angles (90 degree) in nature which is a completely different story. As perviously posted, if you are close enough no camos are effective.

[Resurrection]

I don't get it. What makes this thread so gay?

[East Scout]

I dont think its gay really..I was making a joke..I love Splinter camo..Especially the late war pattern Marsh ..Id love to get a entire suit of it. Repro of course. But most repros are junk and wouldnt last a weekend in the swamp..

ES

[Amandil]

My repro pants (US BDU style) are pretty good, except you have to keep an eye on the buttons (poorly sewn). My repro jacket and hat suck, because they were made by Mil-Tec -- the camo pattern isn't even right (it's all squished and screwy for some reason, I hate it). If I were you, I'd just buy a BGS jacket. They're still relatively easy to come by, I think.

[East Scout]

I had a wiinter parka and a 4 pocket BGS issue splinter pattern jacket...I had always keeprd an eye out for the issue trousers too but they seem to be super hard to find..So i never got a complete set...Those were back in the day when i had a collection..Now i just bye what ill use..But If i could get some good repro to use I might get it..I know there are some great copies of FJ jumpsmocks out there made in the US. They cost $$$..maybe for xmas..who knows..

[Amandil]

Wow, I super can't imagine ever finding some issue pants! Ouch! My BGS parka (or whatever it is, I'm not really sure) is getting a little threadbare. Should buy another one one of these days. I love that heavy thing...

[jango]

It is a very affective pattern when you see it in the photo's.

[ferretmaster]

I use the Swedish m90 pattern here in the UK. Just to be clear, I am not in the military, just an airsofter. The M90 is absolutely superb compared to virtually all of the other patterns I see being used.I have literally been a couple of feet from somebody, not particularly hidden by loads of bush, and they just haven't seen me. This happens time and time again. I've used Marpat, DPM, Multicam and US woodland, and by far and away the M90 has worked the best in UK woodland.

[pc12345]

I also use it in Finland, when i do airsoft and it is perfect. Exspecially in the spring when everything is just light green everywhere... It blends in perfectly.. In the late summers i switch to marpat...

[ktk.ace]

always have a liking for this pattern...

looks aggressive like a shark imho...

[pc12345]

Yeah-. and it fits well with OD gear.. ;)

[pc12345]

:D if i would do that people would think that im some kind of jogger and in stead of shooting me they would yel that ''stop the game'' ''we have a civilian in the area'' :D

[1984]

This thread is over 3.5 years old.

[Eoin666]

I've used Marpat, DPM, Multicam and US woodland, and by far and away the M90 has worked the best in UK woodland.

That's why the UK military, after all their rigorous testing, not only in the UK but all over the world in various environments and conditions adopted it...........oh, hang on...:roll:

[endwahl]

M90's angular shapes work well because of the high contrast harsh lighting conditions experienced in northern climates. The black spots are actually dark blue, and therefore do not absorb light and stand out the way real black areas of the pattern would. This thread is gay, the fact that it was resurrected is gay. The fact that MilTec only has pants, t-shirts and ball caps available in BGS Sumpftarn is gay. This is all quite gay.

[sepia]

Bulgarian Splinter

http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=86547&stc=1&thumb=1&d=1261563459 (http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=86547&d=1261563459) http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=86599&stc=1&thumb=1&d=1261564279 (http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=86599&d=1261564279)
(http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=86547&d=1261563459)Dolph BG (http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/member.php?69801-Dolph-BG) from http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/showthread.php?171164-Bulgarian-Armed-Forces-Air-Land-Sea!
(http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=86547&d=1261563459)


Parachute troops
http://prikachi.com/images/131/3132131y.jpg

http://prikachi.com/images/133/3132133f.jpg

[endwahl]

Still gay.

[Corrupt]

Still gay.

Have you created an account purely to make stupid remarks in this thread?

[endwahl]

Have you created an account purely to make stupid remarks in this thread?

Stupid is as stupid does. Though one might wonder what is more stupid: slagging a camo pattern which is very effective for the one military force that uses it, resurrecting a very old thread, or overly cheeky commentary.

[sepia]

Is Splinter camo?

New Royal Thai Marine experiment pixel camouflage.
http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t92/kit0074/DSC_1324.jpg
It's looks like Royal Thai Air Force camouflage(but it's not pixel) :-) .But sorry,I don't have photos :-( .
http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t92/kit0074/DSC_1330.jpg
In white tag is size1.
http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t92/kit0074/DSC_1328.jpg
To be compare with US Woodland and Royal Thai Marine experiment pixel camouflage. http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/images/icons/icon6.gif

http://www.siambbgun.com/board/index.php?topic=174333.0 (http://www.siambbgun.com/board/index.php?topic=174333.0)


http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=145127&d=1292147335&thumb=1 (http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=145127&d=1292147335)
Mexican Marine(+Navy?) desert camo digital uniform
http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=145137&d=1292150232&thumb=1 (http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=145137&d=1292150232)
Mexican Marine(+Navy?) urban camo digital uniform
include Mexican Marine(+Navy?) woodland camo digital uniform (pic not show)
http://img840.imageshack.us/img840/9411/038wp.jpg
zoom pic

[endwahl]

No. This Is.


http://youtu.be/WGtB8dnPr9c

[Sheikh Al Stranghi]

Doesn't that thai stuff defeat the purpose of digital camo? As it has no micropattern, just a digitized macropattern, shouldn't it be just as effective as M81 woodland?