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Jeremiah
05-16-2006, 06:59 PM
By MARINA MONTEMAYOR, Associated Press Writer 1 hour, 53 minutes ago

CIUDAD JUAREZ, Mexico - Mexico said Tuesday that it would file lawsuits in U.S. courts if National Guard troops on the border become directly involved in detaining migrants.
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Mexican border officials also said they worried that sending troops to heavily trafficked regions would push illegal migrants into more perilous areas of the U.S.-Mexican border to avoid detection.

President Bush announced Monday that he would send 6,000 National Guard troops to the 2,000-mile border, but they would provide intelligence and surveillance support to Border Patrol agents, not catch and detain illegal immigrants.

"If there is a real wave of rights abuses, if we see the National Guard starting to directly participate in detaining people ... we would immediately start filing lawsuits through our consulates," Foreign Secretary Luis Ernesto Derbez told a Mexico City radio station. He did not offer further details.

Mexican officials worry the crackdown will lead to more deaths. Since Washington toughened security in Texas and California in 1994, migrants have flooded Arizona's hard-to-patrol desert and deaths have spiked. Migrant groups estimate 500 people died trying to cross the border in 2005. The Border Patrol reported 473 deaths in the fiscal year ending Sept. 30.

In Ciudad Juarez, Julieta Nunez Gonzalez, local representative of the Mexican government's National Immigration Institute, said Tuesday she will ask the government to send its migrant protection force, known as Grupo Beta, to more remote sections of the border.

Sending the National Guard "will not stop the flow of migrants, to the contrary, it will probably go up," as people try to get into the U.S. in the hope that they could benefit from a possible amnesty program, Nunez said.

Juan Canche, 36, traveled more than 1,200 miles to the border from the southern town of Izamal and said nothing would stop him from trying to cross.

"Even with a lot of guards and soldiers in place, we have to jump that puddle," said Canche, referring to the drought-stricken Rio Grande dividing Ciudad Juarez and El Paso, Texas. "My family is hungry and there is no work in my land. I have to risk it."

Some Mexican newspapers criticized President
Vicente Fox for not taking a stronger stand against the measure, even though Fox called Bush to express his concerns.

A political cartoon in the Mexico City newspaper Reforma depicted Bush as a gorilla carrying a club with a flattened Fox stuck to it.

Fox's spokesman, Ruben Aguilar, said Tuesday that Mexico accepted Bush's statement that the sending in the National Guard didn't mean militarizing the area. He also said Mexico remained "optimistic" that the U.S. Senate would approve an immigration reform "in the interests of both countries."

Aguilar noted that Bush expressed support for the legalization of some immigrants and implementation of a guest worker program.

"This is definitely not a militarization," said Aguilar, who also dismissed as "absolutely false" rumors that Mexico would send its own troops to the border in response.

Bush has said sending the National Guard is intended as a stopgap measure while the Border Patrol builds up resources to more effectively secure the border.

In Nuevo Laredo, across from Laredo, Texas, Honduran Antonio Auriel said he would make it into the U.S.

"Soldiers on the border? That won't stop me," he said. "I'll swim the river and jump the wall. I'm going to arrive in the United States."

remo williams
05-16-2006, 07:17 PM
So does this mean we can sue Mexico if we catch some of their police/military while they are on moonlight incursions into the US?

LaoSexMachine
05-16-2006, 07:25 PM
We should send them the medical bills their citizen have racked up. It's in the billions I believe.

AOCBravo2004
05-16-2006, 07:51 PM
So can we sue Mexico for the degradation of our educational and medical infrastructure??? Let us sue Mexico for using their military to detain illegals from Guatemala. Fox can suck my left nut, while I bone his wife in the a$$ like Mexico does its citizens.

WarriorMonk
05-16-2006, 09:49 PM
fix up NAFTA first.

or we invade Mexico - by the looks of this article the entire country's in on the citizen exportation racket. Why don't we make them happy by invading Mexico and declaring total war on all Mexicans who resist? I mean, if they want to be a part of this country so bad, to get jobs, why don't we just take over in Mexico? Hell, if the whole Mexican country doesn't like it, we can simply nuke 'em, as it looks like the whole population wants to export almost all of themselves to the US, but doesn't really want to be a part of the US and wants to resist US culture.

/sarcasm

deadhorse
05-16-2006, 11:31 PM
This is ridiculous that Mexico makes such a threat. They expect the US to be responsible for THEIR citizens crossing illegally in to the US?! WTF is this world coming too??? We just need to build a big damn wall. And just to show how ignorant Mexico really is, we have been using the National Guard to detain illegals since AT LEAST '92, which I am aware of...morons never heard of JTF-6, eh?

HR24
05-16-2006, 11:47 PM
Well then, we should file lawsuits in Mexican courts every time someone OD's on dope that an illegal alien from Mexico smuggled into the US. Or everytime an LEO is killed in the line of duty while working an investigation into one of the Mexican DTO's.

TheKrautinater
05-17-2006, 12:01 AM
i got an idea....how bout mexico sues us for invading their country and taking over about a half of their territory

LaoSexMachine
05-17-2006, 12:02 AM
i got an idea....how bout mexico sues us for invading their country and taking over about a half of their territory

Welcome to 2006.

TheKrautinater
05-17-2006, 12:12 AM
ya....would that actually even be considered though? if mexico for some reason decided to bring that up, would it even have a chance of holding up and even beting heard (im assuming no)

LaoSexMachine
05-17-2006, 12:13 AM
ya....would that actually even be considered though? if mexico for some reason decided to bring that up, would it even have a chance of holding up and even beting heard (im assuming no)


You anwser your own question.

Wha_Dar
05-17-2006, 12:31 AM
Umatilla County sheriff sends Mexican government bill for prisoners


PENDLETON (AP) - Umatilla County Sheriff John Trumbo has sent Mexico's president a bill for $318,843 - the cost of jailing 360 Mexicans last year.

Trumbo says the government of Mexico ought to pay for the room and board of its citizens in the county jail. U.S. taxpayers “have to pay for housing these guys in the jail; they have to pay for the courts, the prosecution and the defense,” Trumbo told The East Oregonian newspaper of Pendleton.

“Somebody has just got to say, ‘enough is enough,”'

What a good idea! Made me smile.

Still wondering what the outcome of increased security etc. on the Canadian border will come to. Any thoughts?

deadhorse
05-17-2006, 12:35 AM
Still wondering what the outcome of increased security etc. on the Canadian border will come to. Any thoughts?




Yeah, everyone coming through MEXICO!

XxDualityxX
05-17-2006, 12:40 AM
I think mexico should worry about other things like how to promote the tourist family town of tiajuana.

JQ24
05-17-2006, 01:37 AM
This just shows how Mexico is incompetent because they care more about their "immigrant's" rights than improving their own country. I would like to sue Mexico for every one of my tax dollars spent on their illegal immigrants.

Will938
05-17-2006, 03:50 AM
ya....would that actually even be considered though? if mexico for some reason decided to bring that up, would it even have a chance of holding up and even beting heard (im assuming no)

No, Mexico sold the south west to the United States. The only state you can even argue about is Texas. And in that case its inhabitants fought/beat Mexico and became an independent nation. THEN they decided to join the United States. So then how the hell did the US take over Mexico's Territory by anything but diplomatic agreements?

AOCBravo2004
05-17-2006, 04:02 AM
No, Mexico sold the south west to the United States. The only state you can even argue about is Texas. And in that case its inhabitants fought/beat Mexico and became an independent nation. THEN they decided to join the United States. So then how the hell did the US take over Mexico's Territory by anything but diplomatic agreements?

But but but but, you must be white, and therefore racist!!! Sorry, just had to spew the answer of the illegals HAHA.

XShipRider
05-17-2006, 06:15 AM
Sadly, they might just win any potential suit brought into our screwed up
court system. No doubt they'd bring it to the 9th in California, the most
backward, anti-American court in the land.

LtVacan
05-17-2006, 04:23 PM
No, Mexico sold the south west to the United States. The only state you can even argue about is Texas. And in that case its inhabitants fought/beat Mexico and became an independent nation. THEN they decided to join the United States. So then how the hell did the US take over Mexico's Territory by anything but diplomatic agreements?


No, the US defeated Mexico in war, and then gave them back half of their country, and kept the other half. By right of conquest, the US could have kept the whole country. Probably should have, because the Mexicans would all be US citizens already and would not have to sneak across the border.

Will938
05-17-2006, 07:25 PM
No, the US defeated Mexico in war, and then gave them back half of their country, and kept the other half. By right of conquest, the US could have kept the whole country. Probably should have, because the Mexicans would all be US citizens already and would not have to sneak across the border.

The Treaty of Guadalupe Hidalgo ended that war, part of the treaty included the USA purchasing parts of Colorado, Arizona, New Mexico, Wyoming, and the whole of California, Nevada, and Utah for 15 million dollars. They didn't just keep it after the war, they paid Mexico for it.

sir-chimp
05-20-2006, 12:38 PM
**** Mexico

Turhapuro
05-20-2006, 02:32 PM
Just build that damn wall.