Al-qaeda warningto Spain and allies of the US

[Midav]

Purported al-Qaida statement


Saturday 13 March 2004, 11:38 Makka Time, 8:38 GMT

The following is a translation of a statement from the Abu Hafs al-Masri Brigadesclaiming responsibility for the Madrid bombings. The statement was published in Arabic in the London based newspaper Al-Quds Al-Arabi.


In the Name of God

In its last statement (al-Qaida statement in relation to Baghdad and Karbala bombings) dated 11 Muharam 1425 Hijri calendar, corresponding to 2 March 2004, Abu Hafs al-Masri Brigades promised that it was preparing more attacks.

Here the brigade is keeping its word. The death squad (of the Abu Hafs Al-Masri Brigades) succeeded in penetrating the crusader European depths to strike one of the pillars of the crusader alliance - Spain - with a painful blow. These bomb attacks were part of settling old scores with the crusader Spain for its war against Islam.

Where is America to protect you today, Aznar. Who is going to protect you, Britain, Italy, Japan and other hirelings from us?

When we hit Italian troops in Nasirya (Iraq) and sent you and other hirelings a warning to withdraw from the alliance against Islam, you did not comprehend our warning – now we have made it clear - we hope that it will be understood this time.

We, in Abu Hafs al-Masri, did not feel sad for the death of the so-called civilians. Is it lawful for them to kill our children, women, the elderly and men in Afghanistan, Iraq, Palestine, and Kashmir and unlawful for us to kill them back.
(The statement then refers to Quranic verses saying that Muslims should retaliate with equal force if attacked).

Stop targeting us, release our prisoners and leave our land and we will stop attacking you. The people of the US allied countries have to put pressure on their governments to immediately end their alliance with the US in the war against terror (Islam). If you persist we will also continue … We want to tell you the Death Smoke Squad will reach you soon, and then you will see your dead in their thousands – God willing … This is a warning …

In a separate attack, Jund al-Quds (Soldiers of Jerusalem) targeted a Jewish Masonic lodge in Istanbul. Three top Masons were killed in the operation, and if it was not for technical failure all the masons would have been killed. Thanks to God anyway.

We would like to tell Bilal bin Rabah Squad the leadership has agreed on the proposal and when the representative arrives, work will start.

We also would like to tell Abu Ali al-Harithi Squad the leadership has decided that Yemen would be the third quagmire for the idol of the time, America, and to teach the government which comes second only to (Pakistani president) Musharraf, in treason and infidelity, a lesson.

Therefore, all cells are to be on alert. Action will start at (time and code given) – Do not forget to debilitate, do not forget Abu Ali al-Harithi and do not forget the Muslim scholar who was extradited to Egypt by Yemen, Shaikh Abd al-Qadir Abd al-Aziz (Sayyed Imam Sharif). He was imprisoned three months after the September 11 attacks.

We want to inform those who kill Muslim Sunni scholars (Ulamaa) in Iraq to come to a halt otherwise …

We would like to announce to all Muslims in the world that 90% of the preparations of operation "Wind of Black Death" designed to be performed in America has finished and will be performed soon, God willing (at the Mujahidin's convenience). Believers will celebrate the victory of God.

Warning to the nation:- Avoid being close to the civil and military installations of America and its allies.

God is great, God is great – Islam is drawing closer by the might of the mightyand by humbling the mean.

Signed by "Abu Hafs al-Masri/al-Qaida" and dated 11 March 2004.

http://english.aljazeera.net/NR/exeres/2CDD53D6-7AF7-40C7-AF88-32A16072F81B.htm

Sorry if this may have already been posted. But, though people may find this interesting.

These terrorists need to get their asses stomped into the ground.

[mack pl]

If some f***n terrorist reading posts on this forum i could said to him-F***K YOU!!!! :lol:

[Lobo]

Those guys claimed that the black out in North America last summer was done buy them. Nobody takes them too seriously. ;)

[seruriermarshal]

Those guys claimed that the black out in North America last summer was done buy them. Nobody takes them too seriously. ;)
F**k these terrorists .

[M1A2U2]

Wind of Black Death?

[Dalleer]

Wind of Black Death?

Cool names, huh?

[Midav]

Those guys claimed that the black out in North America last summer was done buy them. Nobody takes them too seriously. ;)

Well, I'd take them serious, especially since they're more than likely responsible for 201 dead in Madrid.

Need some unity in how to stop them.

Just my two cents.

[Lobo]

Someone called to a local TV station in Madrid last Saturday evening, to tell the location of a video tape where someone talking in Al Qaeda's name claimed responsability for the attacks. That's the one that Spanish police took seriously. So far they have identified the voice of the person talking in it. And some of the terrorists are identified. The bombs were place by a Moroccan organization with some links to Al Qaeda (nowadays every radical islamic group calls itself member of Al Qaeda).

[Quon Sen Hutt]

Those guys claimed that the black out in North America last summer was done buy them. Nobody takes them too seriously. ;)

Well, I'd take them serious, especially since they're more than likely responsible for 201 dead in Madrid.

Need some unity in how to stop them.

Just my two cents.

The Spanish just voted against unity. Many of the socialists are opposed to the war and they seem to have alot of sympathy with the terrorists over the Arab-Iraeli wars.

That the US is a capitalist nation, that we fought and won the Cold War against Socialism. This has started a rift between the USA and the socialists in Europe.

They're still mad at Ronald Reagon and they don't like it that Bush is president rather than a socialist like Bill Clinton or John Kerry.

Anyway, we won the Cold War despite everything these socialist peacenicks could do to sabotauge our efforts in that struggle. We will win the war on terrorism, though the socialists will do everything they can to sabotauge our efforts here.

[Kriz]

I wonder what black death winds are :|

[seruriermarshal]

Those guys claimed that the black out in North America last summer was done buy them. Nobody takes them too seriously. ;)

Well, I'd take them serious, especially since they're more than likely responsible for 201 dead in Madrid.

Need some unity in how to stop them.

Just my two cents.

The Spanish just voted against unity. Many of the socialists are opposed to the war and they seem to have alot of sympathy with the terrorists over the Arab-Iraeli wars.

That the US is a capitalist nation, that we fought and won the Cold War against Socialism. This has started a rift between the USA and the socialists in Europe.

They're still mad at Ronald Reagon and they don't like it that Bush is president rather than a socialist like Bill Clinton or John Kerry.

Anyway, we won the Cold War despite everything these socialist peacenicks could do to sabotauge our efforts in that struggle. We will win the war on terrorism, though the socialists will do everything they can to sabotauge our efforts here.

My friend , You are right .

[seruriermarshal]

I wonder what black death winds are :|

Freedom world will win , I believe , if terrorist attack again , I think we will must use Nuclear weapons , Yes , Remember Japan !

[the_spec]

@hutt:

That the US is a capitalist nation, that we fought and won the Cold War against Socialism. This has started a rift between the USA and the socialists in Europe.
Communism, not socialism. And you didn't win anything, the soviet union collapsed and was simply outlasted. If you're talking about "fought and won" in connection with the cold war, you must mean the vietnam war, but wait, that one was lost. What are you talking about then?

@marshal:

I think we will must use Nuclear weapons
And drop it where, you genius?
You don't seem to have the slightest idea what terrorism is, yet you seem so eager to fight it.

[stuntman]

Those guys claimed that the black out in North America last summer was done buy them. Nobody takes them too seriously. ;)

I knew these guys were smoke and mirrors.

[seruriermarshal]

@hutt:

That the US is a capitalist nation, that we fought and won the Cold War against Socialism. This has started a rift between the USA and the socialists in Europe.
Communism, not socialism. And you didn't win anything, the soviet union collapsed and was simply outlasted. If you're talking about "fought and won" in connection with the cold war, you must mean the vietnam war, but wait, that one was lost. What are you talking about then?

@marshal:

I think we will must use Nuclear weapons
And drop it where, you genius?
You don't seem to have the slightest idea what terrorism is, yet you seem so eager to fight it.

Genius , WWIII has begin , more people still sleep !

[the_spec]

Genius , WWIII has begin , more people still sleep !
Has begun, ....jesus....
So, who are we dropping the bomb on? I see you still cling to the idea that fighting japan in WW2 and terrorist organizations now are totally the same. Sad little boy, go look in a dictionary for a definition of terrorism.

[seruriermarshal]

Genius , WWIII has begin , more people still sleep !
Has begun, ....jesus....
So, who are we dropping the bomb on? I see you still cling to the idea that fighting japan in WW2 and terrorist organizations now are totally the same. Sad little boy, go look in a dictionary for a definition of terrorism.

Because we believe those dictionary definition , so we will lose this war , same spain .

[the_spec]

Clever answer, I must be really careful not to be outsmarted by you rofl
So, for the third time: Who are we dropping the bomb on?

[Lobo]

Oh, yeah! Fight those socialists...! Didn't you know they have nukes? Drop the bomb in London! (Yes, don't allow them make you get confused. Labour party is a socialdemocrat like German SPD or Spanish PSOE). In case you need help you can count on conservative goverments like that in France. :D

[seruriermarshal]

Clever answer, I must be really careful not to be outsmarted by you rofl
So, for the third time: Who are we dropping the bomb on?

Those parade support the places of terrorist, those terrorist can free the places of activities, those terrorists propagate the place of the violence publicly ............ !

[seruriermarshal]

Oh, yeah! Fight those socialists...! Didn't you know they have nukes? Drop the bomb in London! (Yes, don't allow them make you get confused. Labour party is a socialdemocrat like German SPD or Spanish PSOE). In case you need help you can count on conservative goverments like that in France. :D

I forget , spain have not Nuclear weapons ......

[the_spec]

Those parade support the places of terrorist, those terrorist can free the places of activities, those terrorists propagate the place of the violence publicly ............ !
Why so picky? Let's carpet the whole middle east, africa and south east asia. Too many civilian casualties? Well, in a war there's bound to be casualties and it's their own bad if they live near terrorists, right? :roll:

Wake up! You can't fight terrorism with nukes!

[seruriermarshal]

Those parade support the places of terrorist, those terrorist can free the places of activities, those terrorists propagate the place of the violence publicly ............ !
Why so picky? Let's carpet the whole middle east, africa and south east asia. Too many civilian casualties? Well, in a war there's bound to be casualties and it's their own bad if they live near terrorists, right? :roll:

Wake up! You can't fight terrorism with nukes!

Then , please you tell me how win ?

[seruriermarshal]

Those parade support the places of terrorist, those terrorist can free the places of activities, those terrorists propagate the place of the violence publicly ............ !
Why so picky? Let's carpet the whole middle east, africa and south east asia. Too many civilian casualties? Well, in a war there's bound to be casualties and it's their own bad if they live near terrorists, right? :roll:

Wake up! You can't fight terrorism with nukes!

And terrorism think , we don't dare to attack them with nuclear weapons .

[the_spec]

I don't think a war like that can be won. It's not like you sit down at a table with al qaida officials and sign a peace treaty. Oh, you wanna kill them all? How will you know when you got everybody? How will you know when you "have won"? You invade a country, they go to the next and no one has the capacity to go everywhere, nor is it possible without stirring up a large scale conventional war, something that really could be called WW3 and that in turn would mean total destruction for every side.


And terrorism think , we don't dare to attack them with nuclear weapons .
Yeah, they think that no one can be that stupid.

[seruriermarshal]

I don't think a war like that can be won. It's not like you sit down at a table with al qaida officials and sign a peace treaty. Oh, you wanna kill them all? How will you know when you got everybody? How will you know when you "have won"? You invade a country, they go to the next and no one has the capacity to go everywhere, nor is it possible without stirring up a large scale conventional war, something that really could be called WW3 and that in turn would mean total destruction for every side.

No , now is WWIII , Maybe lose more people , but we can't Survive like slave .

[seruriermarshal]

I don't think a war like that can be won. It's not like you sit down at a table with al qaida officials and sign a peace treaty. Oh, you wanna kill them all? How will you know when you got everybody? How will you know when you "have won"? You invade a country, they go to the next and no one has the capacity to go everywhere, nor is it possible without stirring up a large scale conventional war, something that really could be called WW3 and that in turn would mean total destruction for every side.


And terrorism think , we don't dare to attack them with nuclear weapons .
Yeah, they think that no one can be that stupid.

They know that will be their doomsday .

[the_spec]

Amazing how you back up your opinion with arguments. :roll:
Advise: Less dumb propaganda, more concentrating on what is actually being discussed.

[seruriermarshal]

Amazing how you back up your opinion with arguments. :roll:
Advise: Less dumb propaganda, more concentrating on what is actually being discussed.

Actually more people kill because terrorism attack .

[the_spec]

If you mean that more people die in terrorist attacks, well, then I'm afraid you lose that one. Feel free to look up deaths caused by terrorism as opposed to full out war and then look at the two numbers and feel stupid.

[seruriermarshal]

If you mean that more people die in terrorist attacks, well, then I'm afraid you lose that one. Feel free to look up deaths caused by terrorism as opposed to full out war and then look at the two numbers and feel stupid.

You wrong , If we ruled by the terrorist, we will have uncountable persons who will die , during more than one thousand years.

Moderator Edit........I don't know what your trying to prove,but you're skating on thin ice buddy............picture changed to link!!

http://relation.dcc.ac.kr/home/free/upload/upfile/200431523302673499074052.gif

[sierraone]

stop it you two!

[Argyll]

I wonder what black death winds are :|

Freedom world will win , I believe , if terrorist attack again , I think we will must use Nuclear weapons , Yes , Remember Japan !



Take a fokin history lesson you ballon!

Japan was not a terrorist nation,it was an enemy that fought in Open engagements,they fought as a country not an ideology(apart from the Bushido Code)

Drop a Nuclear device rofl ,where? rofl ,so you'd be quite happy to kill tens of thousands of innocents for a handfull of terrorists??.......and you say that they are extremists.......go outside and get hit by a car and put yourself into a coma,that way you won't have to think!! :bash:

[sierraone]

I think there should be an anti-al qaeda anti-terrorist organisation a bit like 'los Pepes' in Colombia...

[cut]

have seen swordfish?

[seruriermarshal]

I wonder what black death winds are :|

Freedom world will win , I believe , if terrorist attack again , I think we will must use Nuclear weapons , Yes , Remember Japan !



Take a fokin history lesson you ballon!

Japan was not a terrorist nation,it was an enemy that fought in Open engagements,they fought as a country not an ideology(apart from the Bushido Code)

Drop a Nuclear device rofl ,where? rofl ,so you'd be quite happy to kill tens of thousands of innocents for a handfull of terrorists??.......and you say that they are extremists.......go outside and get hit by a car and put yourself into a coma,that way you won't have to think!! :bash:

Ok , You are right , Moderator . I think that I will be safe after joining Islam .

[sierraone]

have seen swordfish?

ah yes well remembered....

[Argyll]

I wonder what black death winds are :|

Freedom world will win , I believe , if terrorist attack again , I think we will must use Nuclear weapons , Yes , Remember Japan !



Take a fokin history lesson you ballon!

Japan was not a terrorist nation,it was an enemy that fought in Open engagements,they fought as a country not an ideology(apart from the Bushido Code)

Drop a Nuclear device rofl ,where? rofl ,so you'd be quite happy to kill tens of thousands of innocents for a handfull of terrorists??.......and you say that they are extremists.......go outside and get hit by a car and put yourself into a coma,that way you won't have to think!! :bash:

Ok , You are right , Moderator . I think that I will be safe after joining Islam .

again your logic is superb....................what's yor problem?
you want to drop a nuclear device on an orginisation that has no country,or borders and are willing to see devastatation from such a weapon .............for what?
Just explain exactly what you would accomplish?

And that's right I am a moderator and you're not........you have a problem with that?

[sierraone]

argyll is upset ...he'll throw a billy connolly..!

[seruriermarshal]

I wonder what black death winds are :|

Freedom world will win , I believe , if terrorist attack again , I think we will must use Nuclear weapons , Yes , Remember Japan !



Take a fokin history lesson you ballon!

Japan was not a terrorist nation,it was an enemy that fought in Open engagements,they fought as a country not an ideology(apart from the Bushido Code)


Drop a Nuclear device rofl ,where? rofl ,so you'd be quite happy to kill tens of thousands of innocents for a handfull of terrorists??.......and you say that they are extremists.......go outside and get hit by a car and put yourself into a coma,that way you won't have to think!! :bash:

Ok , You are right , Moderator . I think that I will be safe after joining Islam .

again your logic is superb....................what's yor problem?
you want to drop a nuclear device on an orginisation that has no country,or borders and are willing to see devastatation from such a weapon .............for what?
Just explain exactly what you would accomplish?

And that's right I am a moderator and you're not........you have a problem with that?

I'm afraid if it will make yours discontent and retaliate against that I answer your question, For example forbid me to make a speech.

[the_spec]

I'm afraid if it will make yours discontent and retaliate against that I answer your question, For example forbid me to make a speech.
If you'd only say something that makes sense for once.
Is playing dumb the evasion tactic of the week or what?

[Argyll]

argyll is upset ...he'll throw a billy connolly..!

Nah mate I'm not upset,having fought terrorism in Northern Ireland,it just amazes me why people come away with statements like "Lets Nuke em" when it's as extreme as it comes,no forethought of the people who live in the country who are oblivious to the daily routines outside their own Townships,..........all of a sudden a giant mushroom cloud appears followed by Hell on Earth!.
Having been an NBC instructor in my old regiment ,I'm fully aware of the effects such a device would have..............and for what to kill a handfull of terrorists.........not much of a risk assesment done there is there?

[seruriermarshal]

I'm afraid if it will make yours discontent and retaliate against that I answer your question, For example forbid me to make a speech.
If you'd only say something that makes sense for once.
Is playing dumb the evasion tactic of the week or what?
To you , I say more .

[Argyll]

I wonder what black death winds are :|

Freedom world will win , I believe , if terrorist attack again , I think we will must use Nuclear weapons , Yes , Remember Japan !



Take a fokin history lesson you ballon!

Japan was not a terrorist nation,it was an enemy that fought in Open engagements,they fought as a country not an ideology(apart from the Bushido Code)


Drop a Nuclear device rofl ,where? rofl ,so you'd be quite happy to kill tens of thousands of innocents for a handfull of terrorists??.......and you say that they are extremists.......go outside and get hit by a car and put yourself into a coma,that way you won't have to think!! :bash:

Ok , You are right , Moderator . I think that I will be safe after joining Islam .

again your logic is superb....................what's yor problem?
you want to drop a nuclear device on an orginisation that has no country,or borders and are willing to see devastatation from such a weapon .............for what?
Just explain exactly what you would accomplish?

And that's right I am a moderator and you're not........you have a problem with that?

I'm afraid if it will make yours discontent and retaliate against that I answer your question, For example forbid me to make a speech.


No that is not true...........all you need to do is explain how you would go about deploying a tactical nuclear device that would only kill the terrorists,leave the civilain population and the lands that they live in untouched and habitable............pretty straight forward really?

[sierraone]

argyll is upset ...he'll throw a billy connolly..!

Nah mate I'm not upset,having fought terrorism in Northern Ireland,it just amazes me why people come away with statements like "Lets Nuke em" when it's as extreme as it comes,no forethought of the people who live in the country who are oblivious to the daily routines outside their own Townships,..........all of a sudden a giant mushroom cloud appears followed by Hell on Earth!.
Having been an NBC instructor in my old regiment ,I'm fully aware of the effects such a device would have..............and for what to kill a handfull of terrorists.........not much of a risk assesment done there is there?

I am sure then you will have heard it all before from your 'squaddies' right?

[the_spec]

To you , I say more .
:roll:
Uh-hu, great reply.
In case you didn't notice, this is not a chatroom, meaning you can state your whole opinion plus arguments in a single post.
Seeing it is pointless to try to get a discussion out of you and not wanting to upset the herd anymore, I better stop replying to your phenomenal one-liners.

Schönen Tag noch.

[seruriermarshal]

I wonder what black death winds are :|

Freedom world will win , I believe , if terrorist attack again , I think we will must use Nuclear weapons , Yes , Remember Japan !



Take a fokin history lesson you ballon!

Japan was not a terrorist nation,it was an enemy that fought in Open engagements,they fought as a country not an ideology(apart from the Bushido Code)


Drop a Nuclear device rofl ,where? rofl ,so you'd be quite happy to kill tens of thousands of innocents for a handfull of terrorists??.......and you say that they are extremists.......go outside and get hit by a car and put yourself into a coma,that way you won't have to think!! :bash:

Ok , You are right , Moderator . I think that I will be safe after joining Islam .

again your logic is superb....................what's yor problem?
you want to drop a nuclear device on an orginisation that has no country,or borders and are willing to see devastatation from such a weapon .............for what?
Just explain exactly what you would accomplish?

And that's right I am a moderator and you're not........you have a problem with that?

I'm afraid if it will make yours discontent and retaliate against that I answer your question, For example forbid me to make a speech.


No that is not true...........all you need to do is explain how you would go about deploying a tactical nuclear device that would only kill the terrorists,leave the civilain population and the lands that they live in untouched and habitable............pretty straight forward really?

Ok , we lose more people , It's sad , but terrorist attack kill more people too ? now , in WWII , nuclear attack Japan , then Japanese peace is till now , You say that a war , yes , and now still war , have only changed a rival .

[Argyll]

argyll is upset ...he'll throw a billy connolly..!

Nah mate I'm not upset,having fought terrorism in Northern Ireland,it just amazes me why people come away with statements like "Lets Nuke em" when it's as extreme as it comes,no forethought of the people who live in the country who are oblivious to the daily routines outside their own Townships,..........all of a sudden a giant mushroom cloud appears followed by Hell on Earth!.
Having been an NBC instructor in my old regiment ,I'm fully aware of the effects such a device would have..............and for what to kill a handfull of terrorists.........not much of a risk assesment done there is there?

I am sure then you will have heard it all before from your 'squaddies' right?

I don't follow?..................heard what?

I just wonder where seruriermarshal had in mind to drop his Tac Nuke?
Does he drop it in A-Stan.........where there are coalition forces who would be effected?
Would he drop it in Iraq.........where there are Coalition Forces who would be effected?
If AQ has terror cells,and Terrorism is not just about AQ,all over the globe where do you deploy the weapon?

[martinexsquaddie]

al queda consist of a few hundred people scattered across the world needs less than a dozen of them to kill a couple of thousand people if they get lucky not bothered about death or imprisoment. conventional military forces are fairly ineffective against them.
declaring war against them is pretty pointless as well its police work and intel work thats going to help black clad guy with guns will be spending most of the time sitting around waiting for targets

[seruriermarshal]

argyll is upset ...he'll throw a billy connolly..!

Nah mate I'm not upset,having fought terrorism in Northern Ireland,it just amazes me why people come away with statements like "Lets Nuke em" when it's as extreme as it comes,no forethought of the people who live in the country who are oblivious to the daily routines outside their own Townships,..........all of a sudden a giant mushroom cloud appears followed by Hell on Earth!.
Having been an NBC instructor in my old regiment ,I'm fully aware of the effects such a device would have..............and for what to kill a handfull of terrorists.........not much of a risk assesment done there is there?

I am sure then you will have heard it all before from your 'squaddies' right?

I don't follow?..................heard what?

I just wonder where seruriermarshal had in mind to drop his Tac Nuke?
Does he drop it in A-Stan.........where there are coalition forces who would be effected?
Would he drop it in Iraq.........where there are Coalition Forces who would be effected?
If AQ has terror cells,and Terrorism is not just about AQ,all over the globe where do you deploy the weapon?

We wrong , AQ not simply terrorism , They can have been in safe place engaged in transnational to attack . So have national and people support them .

[Argyll]

I wonder what black death winds are :|

Freedom world will win , I believe , if terrorist attack again , I think we will must use Nuclear weapons , Yes , Remember Japan !



Take a fokin history lesson you ballon!

Japan was not a terrorist nation,it was an enemy that fought in Open engagements,they fought as a country not an ideology(apart from the Bushido Code)


Drop a Nuclear device rofl ,where? rofl ,so you'd be quite happy to kill tens of thousands of innocents for a handfull of terrorists??.......and you say that they are extremists.......go outside and get hit by a car and put yourself into a coma,that way you won't have to think!! :bash:

Ok , You are right , Moderator . I think that I will be safe after joining Islam .

again your logic is superb....................what's yor problem?
you want to drop a nuclear device on an orginisation that has no country,or borders and are willing to see devastatation from such a weapon .............for what?
Just explain exactly what you would accomplish?

And that's right I am a moderator and you're not........you have a problem with that?

I'm afraid if it will make yours discontent and retaliate against that I answer your question, For example forbid me to make a speech.


No that is not true...........all you need to do is explain how you would go about deploying a tactical nuclear device that would only kill the terrorists,leave the civilain population and the lands that they live in untouched and habitable............pretty straight forward really?

Ok , we lose more people , It's sad , but terrorist attack kill more people too ? now , in WWII , nuclear attack Japan , then Japanese peace is till now , You say that a war , yes , and now still war , have only changed a rival .

That sir is the understatemnet of the year.........who is we?Not you the country who dropped it that's for sure!
The war against terrorism is not just about one orginisation,it's global

So you would be quite happy to kill upwards of a Million people,render their lands useless apart from burying their dead,create a "dead zone" within a border.............all for the sake of a few Terrorists?

In my eyes that is just as extreme as driving a vehicle into a populated area and detonating it,by having no thoughts about the consequences of your actions

[sierraone]

I am sure then you will have heard it all before from your 'squaddies' right?

I don't follow?..................heard what?

I just wonder where seruriermarshal had in mind to drop his Tac Nuke?
Does he drop it in A-Stan.........where there are coalition forces who would be effected?
Would he drop it in Iraq.........where there are Coalition Forces who would be effected?
If AQ has terror cells,and Terrorism is not just about AQ,all over the globe where do you deploy the weapon?

I mean heard squaddie-type arguments like 'let's nuke 'em all', 'hang 'em, flogg 'em, shoot 'em'. I think seruriermarshal's arguments are on that level...No offence to the British soldiers - I have worked with them and I think they are the best in the world - but politically they are not the most correct always - bit like our soldiers or US or wherever - .

I wouldn't bite from what some guys say in here. They are not all 30-plus old salts like you and me..

[seruriermarshal]

I wonder what black death winds are :|

Freedom world will win , I believe , if terrorist attack again , I think we will must use Nuclear weapons , Yes , Remember Japan !



Take a fokin history lesson you ballon!

Japan was not a terrorist nation,it was an enemy that fought in Open engagements,they fought as a country not an ideology(apart from the Bushido Code)


Drop a Nuclear device rofl ,where? rofl ,so you'd be quite happy to kill tens of thousands of innocents for a handfull of terrorists??.......and you say that they are extremists.......go outside and get hit by a car and put yourself into a coma,that way you won't have to think!! :bash:

Ok , You are right , Moderator . I think that I will be safe after joining Islam .

again your logic is superb....................what's yor problem?
you want to drop a nuclear device on an orginisation that has no country,or borders and are willing to see devastatation from such a weapon .............for what?
Just explain exactly what you would accomplish?

And that's right I am a moderator and you're not........you have a problem with that?

I'm afraid if it will make yours discontent and retaliate against that I answer your question, For example forbid me to make a speech.


No that is not true...........all you need to do is explain how you would go about deploying a tactical nuclear device that would only kill the terrorists,leave the civilain population and the lands that they live in untouched and habitable............pretty straight forward really?

Ok , we lose more people , It's sad , but terrorist attack kill more people too ? now , in WWII , nuclear attack Japan , then Japanese peace is till now , You say that a war , yes , and now still war , have only changed a rival .

That sir is the understatemnet of the year.........who is we?Not you the country who dropped it that's for sure!
The war against terrorism is not just about one orginisation,it's global

So you would be quite happy to kill upwards of a Million people,render their lands useless apart from burying their dead,create a "dead zone" within a border.............all for the sake of a few Terrorists?

In my eyes that is just as extreme as driving a vehicle into a populated area and detonating it,by having no thoughts about the consequences of your actions

That is they , to we , attack those parade support the places of terrorist, those terrorist can free the places of activities, those terrorists propagate the place of the violence publicly ............

[seruriermarshal]

I am sure then you will have heard it all before from your 'squaddies' right?

I don't follow?..................heard what?

I just wonder where seruriermarshal had in mind to drop his Tac Nuke?
Does he drop it in A-Stan.........where there are coalition forces who would be effected?
Would he drop it in Iraq.........where there are Coalition Forces who would be effected?
If AQ has terror cells,and Terrorism is not just about AQ,all over the globe where do you deploy the weapon?

I mean heard squaddie-type arguments like 'let's nuke 'em all', 'hang 'em, flogg 'em, shoot 'em'. I think seruriermarshal's arguments are on that level...No offence to the British soldiers - I have worked with them and I think they are the best in the world - but politically they are not the most correct always - bit like our soldiers or US or wherever - .

I wouldn't bite from what some guys say in here. They are not all 30-plus old salts like you and me..[/quote]

Terrorism kill more 30-plus old .

[Argyll]

The war against Terror will never be won in my life time,it's changing all the time.

Cut off the head another grows,it's a bold move to make,shame it's 50 years too late!!

[Argyll]

I am sure then you will have heard it all before from your 'squaddies' right?

I don't follow?..................heard what?

I just wonder where seruriermarshal had in mind to drop his Tac Nuke?
Does he drop it in A-Stan.........where there are coalition forces who would be effected?
Would he drop it in Iraq.........where there are Coalition Forces who would be effected?
If AQ has terror cells,and Terrorism is not just about AQ,all over the globe where do you deploy the weapon?

I mean heard squaddie-type arguments like 'let's nuke 'em all', 'hang 'em, flogg 'em, shoot 'em'. I think seruriermarshal's arguments are on that level...No offence to the British soldiers - I have worked with them and I think they are the best in the world - but politically they are not the most correct always - bit like our soldiers or US or wherever - .

I wouldn't bite from what some guys say in here. They are not all 30-plus old salts like you and me..

Terrorism kill more 30-plus old .[/quote]


What exactly do you know and understand about Terrorism,it's history,it's poitical goals etc...............I'm really quite curious,have you studied terrorism at University or soemthing,as you really know a hell of a lot mto be able to make the statements that you do?

[seruriermarshal]

The war against Terror will never be won in my life time,it's changing all the time.

Cut off the head another grows,it's a bold move to make,shame it's 50 years too late!!

For many people are benefited, we must reach a decision , even failed, We must fight too. Even if the war will last 10,000 years, 100 million years , we wanted to fight .

[seruriermarshal]

I am sure then you will have heard it all before from your 'squaddies' right?

I don't follow?..................heard what?

I just wonder where seruriermarshal had in mind to drop his Tac Nuke?
Does he drop it in A-Stan.........where there are coalition forces who would be effected?
Would he drop it in Iraq.........where there are Coalition Forces who would be effected?
If AQ has terror cells,and Terrorism is not just about AQ,all over the globe where do you deploy the weapon?

I mean heard squaddie-type arguments like 'let's nuke 'em all', 'hang 'em, flogg 'em, shoot 'em'. I think seruriermarshal's arguments are on that level...No offence to the British soldiers - I have worked with them and I think they are the best in the world - but politically they are not the most correct always - bit like our soldiers or US or wherever - .

I wouldn't bite from what some guys say in here. They are not all 30-plus old salts like you and me..

Terrorism kill more 30-plus old .


What exactly do you know and understand about Terrorism,it's history,it's poitical goals etc...............I'm really quite curious,have you studied terrorism at University or soemthing,as you really know a hell of a lot mto be able to make the statements that you do?[/quote]

Supporting terrorists is to know the terrorist ?

[Argyll]

Who supports terrorists?

Not me mate,I've been at the sharp end of the stick........have you?

And about to do it all again soon ;)

To catch and fight terrorism you must think like a terrorist,to think like a terrorist you must study and understand them..........that is not supporting terrorism

[seruriermarshal]

Who supports terrorists?

Not me mate,I've been at the sharp end of the stick........have you?

And about to do it all again soon ;)

To catch and fight terrorism you must think like a terrorist,to think like a terrorist you must study and understand them..........that is not supporting terrorism

You are correct, I am wrong, please accept my apology, I may be too excited.

[Argyll]

Who supports terrorists?

Not me mate,I've been at the sharp end of the stick........have you?

And about to do it all again soon ;)

To catch and fight terrorism you must think like a terrorist,to think like a terrorist you must study and understand them..........that is not supporting terrorism

You are correct, I am wrong, please accept my apology, I may be too excited.


No need to apologise,are you from Spain?

[seruriermarshal]

Who supports terrorists?

Not me mate,I've been at the sharp end of the stick........have you?

And about to do it all again soon ;)

To catch and fight terrorism you must think like a terrorist,to think like a terrorist you must study and understand them..........that is not supporting terrorism

You are correct, I am wrong, please accept my apology, I may be too excited.




No need to apologise,are you from Spain?

No , I'm sorry , Internet is dangerous to me, I can't speak my country .

[sierraone]

This is getting weird by the minute...first we screw up the quote thing and then we can't english and we are talking in riddles ..i give up :D

[Argyll]

Are you from Europe then?

[seruriermarshal]

Are you from Europe then?

No , I'm sorry , The question very sensitive, I think dangerous oneself and household .

[Pégase]

if you have his ip, you can trace his location with a smartwhois or a tracert command p-)

http://www.all-nettools.com/

[Truthsayer]

Usama, is that you?


(Think about it - the best thing that could happend for Al Quida is that some right-wing extremist in the US took over power from the 'compassionate' Bush and started dropping nukes on 'suspected camps'.)