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He219
03-18-2004, 06:52 PM
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A sniper peers through his sight at potential enemy targets moving along the rooftop of a nearby building during a search mission in Al Fallujah, Iraq. The paratrooper is assigned to the 82nd Airborne Division's 1st Battalion, 505th Parachute Infantry Regiment. U.S. Army photo by Staff Sgt. Charles B. Johnson.

Lethal Snipers Lead the Way (http://www.defendamerica.mil/articles/mar2004/a031604a.html)

MOSUL, Iraq, March 16, 2004 — Lurking in the shadows of infantry patrols, security perimeters and raids, Army snipers are becoming the worst enemy for terrorists in northern Iraq. These highly skilled soldiers are stealthy, disciplined and precise.

“In this type of a conflict, enemies use guerilla warfare tactics because there’s no way they can engage us head on. They hide in crowds and fire at you, hoping you’ll return fire into the direction of civilians,” said Sgt. Joseph Danier, a sniper for 5th Battalion, 20th Infantry Regiment, 3rd Brigade, 2nd Infantry Division (Stryker Brigade Combat Team).

“We are here to avoid that. It’s not like I want to shoot people. But if I have to, I will be 100 percent positive that I’m shooting a bad guy,” he added.

Snipers are split up into two or three man teams at the company and battalion levels. One soldier mans the weapon, while the other spots and provides rear security.

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Pvt. Josh Watson looks for possible enemy forces in a large crowd with his M-14 sniper rifle. Watson belongs to 1st Platoon, Company B, 5th Battalion, 20th Infantry Regiment, 3rd Brigade, 2nd Infantry Division. U.S. Army photo by Sgt. Fred Minnick

The spotter acquires the target, calculates wind and gives it to the gunner, who adjusts his data on the scope. The gunner squeezes the trigger and the spotter can see the bullet trace - a disturbance of air pressure that causes light to be refracted differently - through his gun’s scope.

“It’s like on the movie, ‘The Matrix,’ where you can see the bullet before it impacts. As a spotter, I can see the bullet and where it hits,” said Sgt. Chris Lumadue, sniper section leader, 5th Battalion, 20th Infantry Regiment.

“If the shooter misses, I can tell him exactly how far off he was, and he’ll make the corrections off the information I give him and shoot again.”

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Sgt. Joseph Danier provides overwatch on a rooftop at a very high-profile event with his .50-caliber sniper rifle. Danier is a sniper for 5th Battalion, 20th Infanry Regiment, 3rd Brigade, 2nd Infantry Division. U.S. Army photo by Spc. Blair Larson

It’s very rare that one of the Stryker Brigade’s 40 snipers misses. In the skirmishes at Samarra, snipers were used extensively.

“In Samarra, our snipers were on rooftops providing overwatch for the platoon and could see and eliminate the enemy before we were even the ground,” said 1st Lt. William Baynes, 1st platoon leader for Company B, 5th Battalion, 20th Infantry Regiment. “Their urban tactics far exceed the enemy’s ability to pop up and fire an [rocket-propelled grenade].”

Today’s snipers are prepared for these types of situations. The five-week U.S. Army Sniper School has begun to emphasize the importance of urban warfare, which helps soldiers be ready for the settings in Iraq.

“In war, the urban environment is absolutely the most dangerous place for any soldier,” said Lt. Col. Karl Reed, commander of 5th Battalion, 20th Infantry Regiment. “The buildings in Iraq are so different than in the states. The windows and doors are a different size in each house; there are more rooms than what we’re used to, and there are a lot of the little mud houses everywhere.”

Danier said that it’s imperative he receives concrete intelligence on the buildings in the area of engagement before going on an urban mission.

“If I can get the measurements of a window, then I can calculate and visualize the trajectory of the round and how it will enter the target area,” he said. “People never believe that there’s so much math applied to being a sniper.”

Another technicality for Danier to explain is that he can see a mile away through the scope of his heavy .50-caliber sniper rifle, one of four sniper rifles in use by the Army.

“Depending on the weather, which can affect my sight picture, I should be able to see an expression on a man’s face from very far away,” Danier said of the 20-plus pound weapon. Other sniper rifles include the M-4, M-24 and M-14.

“My favorite weapon to carry is the M-24, because it’s so light,” said Sgt. Randal Davis, sniper team leader for Company B, 5th Battalion, 20th Infantry Regiment. “It has a day and night scope and a realistic effective firing range of 1,000 meters.”

It’s quite common for snipers to start quoting numbers about their weapons or tell you the year they were manufactured.

“We’re trained to know everything about our weapon and what to do with it in any given situation,” Lumadue said. “I guess that’s why we’re such an intimidating, lethal force, because we’re always ready and accurate.”

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Pvt. Josh Watson looks for possible enemy forces in a large crowd with his M-14 sniper rifle. Watson belongs to 1st Platoon, Company B, 5th Battalion, 20th Infantry Regiment, 3rd Brigade, 2nd Infantry Division. U.S. Army photo by Sgt. Fred Minnick


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A sniper from Bravo company 1/505 Parachute Infantry Regiment 82nd Airborne Division provides security for his other team members while they conduct a early morning cordon and search of a section of the city of Al Fallujah, Iraq, during Operation Iraqi Freedom. (U.S. Army photo by Staff Sgt. Charles B. Johnson) (Not Released)

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Sniper course instructors from the National Guard Marksmanship Training Center, Camp Robinson, Ark., teach marksmanship techniques to soldiers with the 101st Airborne Division in Mosul, Iraq, Nov. 19, 2003. This is the first time since 1968 that a sniper school is being held on foreign soil. (DoD photo by Spc. Josh Hutcheson, U.S. Army) (Released)

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Sniper Sgt. Randall Davis peers down the holographic scope of the M-14 sniper rifle he used during operations in and around Samarra. Since mid December, Davis has been credited with eight confirmed kills and two "probables," a count no soldier in the brigade has matched. — Alan Lessig / Military Times staff

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Spc. Christopher Wilson, left, and Sgt. Randall Davis, a sniper team for Bravo Company, 5th Battalion, 3rd Brigade, 20th Infantry Regiment, 2nd Infantry Division, hold sniper rifles used during operations in and around Samarra. Leaders maintain that the Stryker brigade’s abundance of snipers is ideal for limiting collateral damage and civilian casualties during guerilla-style fighting

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wholagun
03-18-2004, 07:10 PM
what the deal with all the m14s? Why doesn't the US army have modern sniper rifles?

MVSpartan117
03-18-2004, 07:10 PM
what the deal with all the m14s? Why doesn't the US army have modern sniper rifles?

The m-14 is a damn fine weapon!

Ratamacue
03-18-2004, 07:12 PM
The US has ALOT of left-over M14's from back in the day, which means that you can restore them, slap in some precision/accurized parts and voila, you've got yourself a great semi-auto marksman rifle.

MVSpartan117
03-18-2004, 07:13 PM
What type of gloves are these?

http://www.armytimes.com/content/editorial/editart/122203front18.jpg

George W. Bush
03-18-2004, 07:15 PM
M14 owns you.

He219
03-18-2004, 07:17 PM
These are a couple of intersting sniper pic's ...

http://cache.*****images.com/comp/3074256.jpg?x=x&dasite=MS_GINS&ef=2&ev=1&dareq=C1DA3E90C9141D42E1706AE271BDD248

KABUL, AFGHANISTAN: A Canadian soldier of the International Security Assistance Force (ISAF) looks out from on top of a Russian-made T-62 tank during a ceremony marking the removal of heavy weapons from Kabul, 11 March 2004. The program which was started in January 2004 is seperate from the UN-backed DDR program due to start "in two weeks time thorughout Afghanistan. AFP PHOTO/SHAH Marai (Photo credit should read SHAH MARAI/AFP/***** Images)


IDFM203: What's this, a silenced .45 ?!?

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380321 18: An Israeli army sniper fires a rifle fitted with a silencer at stone-throwing Palestinians October 16, 2000 during clashes on the outskirts of the West Bank town of Ramallah. (Photo by David Silverman/Newsmakers)

Seraphim
03-18-2004, 07:17 PM
What type of gloves are these?

http://www.armytimes.com/content/editorial/editart/122203front18.jpg

Ninja gloves

George W. Bush
03-18-2004, 07:21 PM
IDFM203: What's this, a silenced .45 ?!?

http://cache.*****images.com/comp/1302237.jpg?x=x&dasite=MS_GINS&ef=2&ev=1&dareq=E2399169AC85D6DE9736258CE323CD58210DC22F4A6BD60C

380321 18: An Israeli army sniper fires a rifle fitted with a silencer at stone-throwing Palestinians October 16, 2000 during clashes on the outskirts of the West Bank town of Ramallah. (Photo by David Silverman/Newsmakers)

A suppressed Ruger 10/22(.22LR). Looks like a screwed-on Harris bipod.

10/22 nice rifle, I haven't cleaned mine in 3K rounds and it still keeps going bang.

elguapo
03-18-2004, 07:25 PM
M-14 are used by infantry battalions as a sharpshooter rifle, M-24 is the real sniper weapon, right???


http://world.guns.ru/sniper/m24.jpg

memphiz
03-18-2004, 07:29 PM
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thats awsome

Guttorm
03-18-2004, 07:30 PM
I belive the M-24 is the fully automatic version of the M-14.
The M-14 is only semi automatic.

George W. Bush
03-18-2004, 07:32 PM
I belive the M-24 is the fully automatic version of the M-14.
The M-14 is only semi automatic.

M24 is a Remington 700 hunting rifle with accurized barrel and adjustable stock.

Operation Ivy
03-18-2004, 07:34 PM
AWsome :D

http://www.snipercountry.com/graphics/sniper,5bn,3bde,20infreg,2IDsamarra,Iraq.jpg

Saving Private Ryan Anyone :D

elguapo
03-18-2004, 07:38 PM
future Barret Payload Rifle - 25mm

http://www.gun-world.net/USA/Barrett/osw1.jpg

http://www.gun-world.net/USA/Barrett/payload0001.jpg

http://www.sistemasdearmas.hpg.ig.com.br/notpayload.JPG

Seraphim
03-18-2004, 07:39 PM
I belive the M-24 is the fully automatic version of the M-14.
The M-14 is only semi automatic.

M24 is a Remington 700 hunting rifle with accurized barrel and adjustable stock.

Among other things but your basically right.

I love those Ruger 10/22 clip two 25round banana mags together and have fun.

RSK
03-18-2004, 07:39 PM
what the deal with all the m14s? Why doesn't the US army have modern sniper rifles?

The m-14 is a damn fine weapon!

Right you are!!

RSK
03-18-2004, 07:40 PM
Great story and photos by the way! woot

EODSGT
03-18-2004, 07:42 PM
Spartan,
those aren't gloves. It's the cuff of his SPEAR silky top. They have a thumbhole.

MVSpartan117
03-18-2004, 07:48 PM
Spartan,
those aren't gloves. It's the cuff of his SPEAR silky top. They have a thumbhole.

Oh........ I really thought they were ninja gloves :lol:

Catch22
03-18-2004, 07:49 PM
Yep - nice pics guys. M14 had its purely sniper version named M21. M24 is bolt action remington 700.

Seems Barret tries to be most up to date with these 25mm exploding ammo - I understand its the same programable ammo used in OICW XM29 and OCSW project? REMOV or anyone well informed...got any info on this?

RSK
03-18-2004, 07:50 PM
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January 2004

Canadian Army Snipers Gain From Afghanistan Experience

by Roxana Tiron


Drawing from their combat experience in Afghanistan, Canadian Army snipers are taking steps to improve their organization and equipment.

Canada has approximately 2,000 soldiers in Afghanistan, as part of the North Atlantic Treaty Organization stabilization force. In support of the U.S.-led ground war, Canada deployed a 750-member infantry battalion from January to July 2002.

Canadian snipers unofficially were credited with killing 20 Al-Qaeda members during Operation Anaconda in the Shahi Kot Valley. Two sniper teams also were recommended for the U.S. Bronze Star.

The Canadian Army has a total of 317 qualified snipers, but not all of them are employed as such, Warrant Officer George Williams told National Defense. There are nine battalions in the Army, and each has eight snipers, he said. That number is poised to grow in the future, according to Williams.

The missions of the snipers depend on what the battalion does, explained Williams. “If our battalion is exercising a defensive role, then we employ our snipers in a defensive role, whether with an actual unit, forward or behind,” he said. “We may send them forward to secure a place in advance, [or] put them behind friendly troops to protect them.”

Before becoming snipers, Canadian soldiers have to score well on their annual weapons test, and also have to be physically fit, Williams said.

The biggest prerequisite, however, “is that you have to be a basic reconnaissance patrolman,” he said. It’s practically a guarantee that the candidates will be highly qualified, because reconnaissance troops already have received specialized training, he said. “The skills that they learn on the course also help them in the sniper course.”

In the past, however, the fact that snipers already were trained as reconnaissance patrolmen made sustaining their sniper skills problematic, because their battalion would employ them as scouts instead of sharpshooters.

In Afghanistan, “our snipers proved how they can influence the battlefield,” said Williams. For that reason, commanders now “look at it differently and allow the snipers to do their own thing.”

The basic sniper course lasts nine weeks, compared to the five-week U.S. Army course, said Williams.

“We cover conventional shooting. We cover field firing shooting, which is [based on] unknown distance, and the sniper has to judge the distance to the target,” said Williams. Students have to judge distance to a target within 5 percent—from 100 meters to 1,000 meters, he explained.

Another element of the course is tracking, which means the snipers have to find the clues that the enemy leaves behind. At a higher level, snipers learn to track the enemy over distances of 1,500 meters.

“We teach concealment. ... Then, we take that up to the next step, which is stalking,” said Williams.

“Stalking” requires a sniper to cover a certain area and shoot at an observation post undetected, hit the target within five meters, while remaining covert.

A key factor in training is observation. “We hide 12 objects in an area, and the snipers have to be able to locate the objects and identify what they are,” Williams said. “It is important for a sniper, when he is on the battlefield, to remember what he has seen, come back and accurately report [it],” he said.

Exercising the memory is part of the training regimen.

“We could have a scenario where you have an enemy soldier walk by and they have to tell what items he has,” he said. “We may not even tell them that they are going through this game.”

Once a soldier becomes a basic sniper, he goes through the six-week detachment planners’ course. “We will teach them how to instruct, how to advise commanders on the use of snipers,” said Williams. “We will get pretty heavy and thick into the shooting of our .50 caliber sniper rifle where we take into account factors like barometric pressure, shooting uphill, downhill, air temperature, ammo temperature.”

Next is the advanced course, where students learn how to be a sniper section commander. “Now, he has to be able to advise the commander of a battalion on how to employ his sniper section,” Williams said. “We also discuss conducting missions against material targets such as aircraft sitting on the ground, vehicle convoys.”

The Canadian sniper cells are introducing a new element to the advanced course, based on the soldiers’ experience in Afghanistan, said Williams. “We learned the value of calling in direct fire and close air support, which is something we have not done a lot of,” he said. “We are going to teach them how to call fire.”

Much like their Special Forces colleagues in the United States, the Canadian snipers now are reorganizing in four-men teams, instead of two-men teams. The main reason for the change is security, according to Williams.

“They need at least another person watching their back,” he said. Depending on the mission, they could choose to add either a third or fourth sniper to the team.

When operating in a three-or four-man team, snipers also may prefer a short-range rifle, said Williams. The Canadian Army is looking into procuring a 5.56 mm M-16 type rifle. The service also is testing a new version of the 7.62 mm sniper rifle, similar to the AR-10. Sharpshooters in Afghanistan are using that weapon, said Williams.

The Parker-Hale 7.62 mm sniper rifle has reached the end of its lifecycle, said Williams. The service is trying to replace it with a rifle than can fire .338 caliber rounds. “That rifle is pretty much the same weight [as the Parker-Hale]. The recoil is the same, but we have farther distances. We hope to get out to 1,200-1,500 meters with this new round,” said Williams. The main sniper weapon currently is the McMillan .50 caliber rifle.

Another factor determining the new team setup is the weight of the equipment.

In Afghanistan, the Canadian snipers each had to haul loads in excess of 160 pounds, said a sharp shooter who asked not to be identified by name. “We did not know how long we got to go,” he said. “One, time we went on a 38-hour mission, and we came 32 days later. It varies from mission to mission.”

OEF taught them the importance of carefully selecting every item that goes into the backpack, the sniper said. “We could have quite easily made our rucksacks so heavy that we could not have carried them,” he added.

Although their equipment in Afghanistan was adequate, it’s been reported in the Canadian press that the snipers resorted to the U.S. .50 caliber ammunition, because it performs better than the Canadian round.

According to Williams, “wind is the biggest problem we face.” The solution to that is an automatic ballistic computer that can calculate factors such as barometric pressure, air temperature, ammunition temperature, slant angle and spin drift. This computer has not yet been issued to all snipers, said Williams.

The Army is working on issuing a new sniper suit that would have padding and straps on both the elbows and knees, and special loops to tie in the camouflage material the snipers choose, depending on their missions. The suit is designed with pockets on the side and back, and has padding on the shoulder where the butt of the rifle usually lies.

RomanS
03-18-2004, 08:02 PM
I like M14 too

Gorgeous, accurate and solid.

But not as good looking as this bebe

http://www.gunsnet.net/album/uploads//6673/IMG_2154.jpg
http://www.gunsnet.net/album/uploads//6673/IMG_2227.jpg


and the fully automatic Dragunov
hehehe
http://www.gunsnet.net/album/uploads//6673/S_PIC00079.jpg

UkrainianAmerican
03-18-2004, 08:06 PM
and the fully automatic Dragunov
hehehe
http://www.gunsnet.net/album/uploads//6673/S_PIC00079.jpg
Isnt that a PKM?
And wheres the scope?
:|

MVSpartan117
03-18-2004, 08:07 PM
:D

Full-auto......... Happyness comes to us in the form of a belt-fed weapon

RomanS
03-18-2004, 08:17 PM
and the fully automatic Dragunov
hehehe
http://www.gunsnet.net/album/uploads//6673/S_PIC00079.jpg
Isnt that a PKM?
And wheres the scope?
:|

Its a JOKE BRO

PKM is the most accurate machine gun on the planet, so we call it the full auto sniper rifle.

earl
03-18-2004, 08:42 PM
I read an article by Val Shilin, I think, about Spetsnaz using PKMs with scopes in a sniping role, and of course able to act in the GPMG role when needed.

That M14 with Eotech and RAS is a thing of beauty.

FallenAngel
03-18-2004, 09:08 PM
I belive the M-24 is the fully automatic version of the M-14.
The M-14 is only semi automatic.

The M-14 is selective fire. The weapons you see the 82nd Airborne with are M1As they bought from the Springfield Armory before getting shipped to A'stan. THOSE are semi-auto only. They were issued one to a squad (I think) as a marksman rifle. The M21 is accurized "sniper" rifle version.

Read an article some time ago about how the USMC was getting thousands of M14 re-barreled for the same purpose.

EODSGT
03-18-2004, 09:13 PM
just trying to be helpful - real ninja gloves are of a compeltely different design, and made of 100% baby wombat skin. :cantbeli:

Merik
03-18-2004, 10:17 PM
AWsome :D

http://www.snipercountry.com/graphics/sniper,5bn,3bde,20infreg,2IDsamarra,Iraq.jpg

Saving Private Ryan Anyone :D

Pretty interesting that he has on a tanker helmet. I guess hes talking with other tanks to pinpoint incoming fire.

gilgoul
03-19-2004, 03:43 AM
IDFM203: What's this, a silenced .45 ?!?

http://cache.*****images.com/comp/1302237.jpg?x=x&dasite=MS_GINS&ef=2&ev=1&dareq=E2399169AC85D6DE9736258CE323CD58210DC22F4A6BD60C

380321 18: An Israeli army sniper fires a rifle fitted with a silencer at stone-throwing Palestinians October 16, 2000 during clashes on the outskirts of the West Bank town of Ramallah. (Photo by David Silverman/Newsmakers) [/quote]

IDFM203: What's this, a silenced .45 ?!?

No, it s a ruger 22lr with a supressor, used to take out the knee caps of riot leaders
pretty cute isn`t it?

volfram
03-19-2004, 05:30 AM
Anybody got pictures of marine scout snipers in Iraq?

Steve Andrews
03-19-2004, 08:21 AM
The Israeli rifle is a suppressed Ruger 10/22.
I believe that they are used for quietly dropping ring-leaders during disturbances.

edit: oops, didn't see the bottom bit of Gilgoul's reply..

MaxPayne
03-19-2004, 08:39 AM
I NEED THESE PICS IN HIGH RES!! If u know where i can get them please post!!



http://www.defenselink.mil/daimages/photos/mar2004/articles/ai031604b1.jpg

http://www.defenselink.mil/daimages/photos/mar2004/articles/ai031604b2.jpg

Seoulstriker
03-19-2004, 08:44 AM
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[quote="Seoulstriker"]here is my collection of sniper pics (ignore weird pictures)

http://netfiles.uiuc.edu/pzavisla/hostedmilitaryimages/snipers/sniper1.jpg
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http://netfiles.uiuc.edu/pzavisla/hostedmilitaryimages/snipers/sniper37.jpg
http://netfiles.uiuc.edu/pzavisla/hostedmilitaryimages/snipers/sniper38.jpg
http://netfiles.uiuc.edu/pzavisla/hostedmilitaryimages/snipers/sniper39.jpg
http://netfiles.uiuc.edu/pzavisla/hostedmilitaryimages/snipers/sniper40.jpg
http://netfiles.uiuc.edu/pzavisla/hostedmilitaryimages/snipers/sniper41.jpg
http://netfiles.uiuc.edu/pzavisla/hostedmilitaryimages/snipers/sniper42.jpg
http://netfiles.uiuc.edu/pzavisla/hostedmilitaryimages/snipers/sniper43.jpg
http://netfiles.uiuc.edu/pzavisla/hostedmilitaryimages/snipers/sniper44.jpg
http://netfiles.uiuc.edu/pzavisla/hostedmilitaryimages/snipers/sniper45.jpg
http://netfiles.uiuc.edu/pzavisla/hostedmilitaryimages/snipers/sniper46.jpg
http://netfiles.uiuc.edu/pzavisla/hostedmilitaryimages/snipers/sniper47.jpg
http://netfiles.uiuc.edu/pzavisla/hostedmilitaryimages/snipers/sniper48.jpg
http://netfiles.uiuc.edu/pzavisla/hostedmilitaryimages/snipers/sniper49.jpg
http://netfiles.uiuc.edu/pzavisla/hostedmilitaryimages/snipers/sniper50.jpg
http://netfiles.uiuc.edu/pzavisla/hostedmilitaryimages/snipers/sniper51.jpg

Barebow
03-19-2004, 09:04 AM
I belive the M-24 is the fully automatic version of the M-14.
The M-14 is only semi automatic.

The M14 is also FULL AUTO !!

This is my baby!!!!
http://home.wanadoo.nl/barebow/barebow/images/kif_0707.jpg

Barebow p-)

Barebow
03-19-2004, 10:02 AM
I belive the M-24 is the fully automatic version of the M-14.
The M-14 is only semi automatic.

The M-14 is selective fire. The weapons you see the 82nd Airborne with are M1As they bought from the Springfield Armory before getting shipped to A'stan. THOSE are semi-auto only. They were issued one to a squad (I think) as a marksman rifle. The M21 is accurized "sniper" rifle version.

Read an article some time ago about how the USMC was getting thousands of M14 re-barreled for the same purpose.

These are NOT Springfield M1As but real M14 rifles !! look at the selector switch on the right side of the M14 and the small selector rod under the operating rod!
On the Springfield M1As there is NO selector switch!!!!!!
There are still about 250 000 M14 rifles in stock in the US !

http://home.wanadoo.nl/barebow/barebow/images/kif_0585.jpg

Barebow woot

IDFM203
03-19-2004, 10:55 AM
Sorry for the late reply… I haven’t had the time to check on here as much as I used to ;)


IDFM203: What's this, a silenced .45 ?!?

http://cache.*****images.com/comp/1302237.jpg?x=x&dasite=MS_GINS&ef=2&ev=1&dareq=E2399169AC85D6DE9736258CE323CD58210DC22F4A6BD60C


Ok I see a few posters already answered it already that it is in fact a Ruger 10/22 Suppressed Sniper Rifle

Here are a few more pics (curtsey of isayeret.com (http://www.isayeret.com/weapons/sws/ruger/ruger.htm))

http://www.isayeret.com/terror/1%20A.jpg
http://www.isayeret.com/sniping/Sniper6.jpg
http://www.isayeret.com/weapons/sws/ruger/ruger-2.jpg


Anyways here are a few random IDF sniper pics.

http://www.isayeret.com/sniping/gsr.gif
http://www.isayeret.com/sniping/Sniper10.jpg

The IMI Galil Sniper Rifle ("Galil T'zalaphim" - GALAT'Z in Hebrew) is the sniping modified version of the Galil 7.62 mm Assault Rifle (AR). (http://www.isayeret.com/weapons/sws/gsr/gsr.htm)

http://www.isayeret.com/sniping/sr99-alone.gif
http://www.isayeret.com/sniping/sr99-b.jpg

More then a decade after the introduction of the Galil Sniper Rifle (GALAT'Z) IMI has unveiled a new semi automatic sniper rifle - the 99 Sniper Rifle (99SR). (http://www.isayeret.com/weapons/sws/sr99/sr99.htm)

Barrett M82A1 (http://www.isayeret.com/weapons/sws/barrett/barrett.htm)
http://www.isayeret.com/weapons/sws/barrett/female-barrett.jpg

A female M82A1 instructor wearing full camouflage suit during a training exercise.
http://www.isayeret.com/weapons/sws/barrett/Givati_Barret.jpg

Remington M24 SWS (http://www.isayeret.com/weapons/sws/m24/m24.htm)
http://www.isayeret.com/sniping/m24.jpg
http://www.isayeret.com/sniping/Sniper20.jpg
http://www.isayeret.com/units/land/special/egoz/eogz-9.jpg
http://www.isayeret.com/weapons/sws/m24/nahshon.jpg

There are a lot more pics and different sniper weapons as well that the IDF uses that I did not post, for a more full listing of the sniper weapons in use in the IDF and for more pics and info on them, click Here (http://www.isayeret.com/weapons/sws/sws.htm)


Shalom :D

atnadastra
03-19-2004, 02:50 PM
He219,

This is a GREAT thread you've started! Thank you (and the other contributors) for these awesome pictures!

woot

woot

MapleLeafInfantry
03-19-2004, 04:22 PM
http://cache.*****images.com/comp/3074256.jpg?x=x&dasite=MS_GINS&ef=2&ev=1&dareq=C1DA3E90C9141D42E1706AE271BDD248
thats awsome

whats up with buddy's boots? they sorta look like a pair of timberlands with a gaiter?
mli

Operation Ivy
03-19-2004, 04:47 PM
http://www.jonmills.co.uk/slide15.jpg

Pics i took :D

http://img20.photobucket.com/albums/v60/OpIvy/cap001.jpg

http://img20.photobucket.com/albums/v60/OpIvy/cap002.jpg

http://img20.photobucket.com/albums/v60/OpIvy/cap003.jpg

MVSpartan117
03-19-2004, 04:52 PM
http://www.jonmills.co.uk/slide15.jpg

That from BHD?

Operation Ivy
03-19-2004, 05:03 PM
Nope, Google :D

Frens
03-19-2004, 05:07 PM
Black Hawk Down, right? Great film! ;)

flickme
03-19-2004, 05:11 PM
http://www.jonmills.co.uk/slide15.jpg

That from BHD?

Come on Spartan, you know there were british in BHD. No hard feelings here ;)

EvanL
03-19-2004, 05:50 PM
SOme more canadian pics. Both Police and military
http://www.sniper.ws/photogallery/CA%20Sniper%20Con.JPG
http://www.snipercountry.com/photogallery/CanadianSniper_Bosnia.jpg

http://www.angelfire.com/tx5/snipersustainment/canteam.jpg

http://www3.sympatico.ca/milcun/ps2pos.jpg

sniper from London Ontario Police Service selects a very stable supported kneeling position.
http://www3.sympatico.ca/milcun/ps3at425.jpg

A sniper from Sault Ste. Marie Police Service shows off his "Cold Clean Barrel Shot" and a follow-up 5-shot group, fired on 12" steel plates from 425 yards with a MilCun built rifle.

http://www3.sympatico.ca/milcun/rcmpline.jpg

RCMP students on the firing line at Connaught Ranges in December.

http://www3.sympatico.ca/milcun/ps4trio.jpg

Police Snipers show the results of a successful stalk

http://nandotimes.nandomedia.com/ips_rich_content/721-afghan.jpg

http://www.mayneclan.ca/sniper.jpg
On the rooftops ^^^^

http://www.ottawa.cbc.ca/ottawanews/afghanistan/images/perrytower.jpg
http://www.ottawa.cbc.ca/ottawanews/afghanistan/images/rags.jpg
http://www.ottawa.cbc.ca/ottawanews/afghanistan/images/mikesniper1.jpg
http://www.diemaco.com/gallery/dpg-srsniper.jpg
http://www.dnd.ca/site/community/mapleleaf/html_files/images/Vol4_36____ARMY02-00.jpg

MVSpartan117
03-19-2004, 06:22 PM
http://www.jonmills.co.uk/slide15.jpg

That from BHD?

Come on Spartan, you know there were british in BHD. No hard feelings here ;)
That is exactly why I expressed some doubt :)

flickme
03-19-2004, 06:23 PM
I see....

flickme
03-19-2004, 06:24 PM
*delete*

Operation Ivy
03-19-2004, 07:45 PM
One for you M14(or whatever name you give it) fans ;)

http://www.defenselink.mil/daimages/photos/sep2003/articles/ai091603g1b.jpg

He219
03-19-2004, 07:53 PM
One for you M14(or whatever name you give it) fans ;)
http://www.defenselink.mil/daimages/photos/sep2003/articles/ai091603g1b.jpg
M-14 DMR
;)

http://www.news.navy.mil/management/photodb/webphoto/web_020108-M-8643P-501.jpg

Kandahar, Afghanistan (Jan. 8, 2002) -- U.S. Marine Corps Sgt. Jason E. Capozzoli, 26th Marine Expeditionary Unit (SOC), a Force Reconnaissance Marine from Tallahassee, Fla., gets acquainted with the new M-14 DMR (Designated Marksman Rifle). Eight of the nine rifles manufactured by precision weapons repairmen at MCCDC Quantico, Va., were sent here for testing during Operation Enduring Freedom. USMC photo by Sgt. Andrew D. Pomykal. (RELEASED)

http://www.c7f.navy.mil/Photopage/PhotoHome/2003/October/031025-N-4055P-011_S.jpg

http://www.news.navy.mil/management/photodb/webphoto/web_031018-N-4055P-002.jpg

http://www.c7f.navy.mil/news/2003/October/031025-N-4055P-005_S.jpg

http://www.c7f.navy.mil/Photopage/PhotoHome/2003/October/031025-N-4055P-002_S.jpg

http://www.c7f.navy.mil/Photopage/PhotoHome/2003/October/031025-N-4055P-001_S.jpg
Hi-Res (http://www.c7f.navy.mil/Photopage/PhotoHome/2003/October/031025-N-4055P-001.jpg)

ABOARD USS BLUE RIDGE AT SEA (Oct. 25, 2003) -- Lance Cpl. Michael Roy, native of Ft. Myers, Fla., searches the super structure of the ship through his sniper scope, while Lance Cpl. Ryan Sarson, of Tipp City Ohio, watches his partner's back. 2nd FAST Co., 7th Platoon, 1st squad, practiced a vessel, board, search and seizure training scenario aboard USS Blue Ridge (LCC 19) Oct. 25. Blue Ridge is currently under way for a regularly scheduled deployment.
(U.S. Navy photo by Photographer's Mate 1st Class (AW) Winston C. Pitman)

MVSpartan117
03-19-2004, 08:26 PM
I love the M-14 DMR......

MVSpartan117
03-19-2004, 08:30 PM
Does only the Marines use the DMR? I thought I've seen pics of the Army. Anyone know?

Ratamacue
03-19-2004, 09:06 PM
The Marines are the only ones to use their variant of the M14, which has the green polymer stock w/ pistol grip, cheekrest, etc. Not sure what the Army puts on theirs but they're different from the Marines'.

Barebow
03-20-2004, 05:14 PM
The Marines are the only ones to use their variant of the M14, which has the green polymer stock w/ pistol grip, cheekrest, etc. Not sure what the Army puts on theirs but they're different from the Marines'.

Airborne 101st in Iraq! and some in Afgahnistan.

http://home.wanadoo.nl/barebow/barebow/images/US%20M14%20iraq.jpg


http://home.wanadoo.nl/barebow/barebow/images/M14%20in%20Iraq.jpg


http://home.wanadoo.nl/barebow/barebow/images/2297M14_in_Ghan-med.jpg


http://home.wanadoo.nl/barebow/barebow/images/m14_iraq.jpg

http://home.wanadoo.nl/barebow/barebow/images/capt.sge.lkz56.051003165424.photo00%20M14.jpg

http://home.wanadoo.nl/barebow/barebow/images/2297ussf3434.jpg

http://home.wanadoo.nl/barebow/barebow/images/US%20Afghan%20M14%202002.jpg

?

http://home.wanadoo.nl/barebow/barebow/images/m14-05.jpg

volfram
03-21-2004, 06:35 AM
I think they are from 82nd.

specialairservice
03-21-2004, 07:44 AM
Has anyone got any pictures of the SR25 or the MK11 Mod 0? I never seen a picture of a Navy Seal using one :(

solidus
03-27-2004, 10:19 AM
http://www.tacticalair.com/sniper6.jpg
http://www.specialoperations.com/inf-9.jpg
http://img41.photobucket.com/albums/v126/NOVAsolidus/unit_sniper_small.jpg
http://img41.photobucket.com/albums/v126/NOVAsolidus/sniper_standing_small.jpg
http://img41.photobucket.com/albums/v126/NOVAsolidus/mp33sg1_small.jpg
http://www.tacticalair.com/33sg1md.jpg
http://www.tacticalair.com/FNFALsniper.jpg
http://www.tacticalair.com/sr9tc.jpg

MaxPayne
03-27-2004, 12:06 PM
Has anyone got any pictures of the SR25 or the MK11 Mod 0? I never seen a picture of a Navy Seal using one :(

https://netfiles.uiuc.edu/pzavisla/hostedmilitaryimages/special%20forces221.jpg

Identity31690
03-27-2004, 12:49 PM
http://www.isayeret.com/weapons/sws/sr25/sr-25.jpg

Seoulstriker
03-27-2004, 02:14 PM
Has anyone got any pictures of the SR25 or the MK11 Mod 0? I never seen a picture of a Navy Seal using one :(

http://netfiles.uiuc.edu/pzavisla/hostedmilitaryimages/special%20forces221.jpg


nice grab. and that's the ONLY photo i have of a navy SEAL with the SPR. :(

i wish i had more. those guys are badass. :)

IDFM203
03-27-2004, 02:53 PM
http://www.isayeret.com/weapons/sws/sr25/sr-25.jpgNice pics....you got this from isayeret.com

They have a good page with pics and info of this wepon in use in the IDF

for that page click here....

http://www.isayeret.com/weapons/sws/sr25/sr25.htm

Shalom :D

MEGR
03-27-2004, 03:14 PM
I've heard nothing bad about the m14 except for its weight and uncontrollability on full auto.. The Marines in 'nam apparently loved it while shunning the lighter m16. I think the m14 design overall is very formidable, reliable, and can be used in many different roles.

SeanR
03-27-2004, 04:25 PM
Has anyone got any pictures of the SR25 or the MK11 Mod 0? I never seen a picture of a Navy Seal using one :(

http://netfiles.uiuc.edu/pzavisla/hostedmilitaryimages/special%20forces221.jpg


nice grab. and that's the ONLY photo i have of a navy SEAL with the SPR. :(

i wish i had more. those guys are badass. :)

How do you know this is a Navy Seal?

HELEX
03-27-2004, 04:33 PM
http://www.sportingguns.com.au/Rifles/AMP/images/dsr-no1c.jpg

MaxPayne
03-27-2004, 05:30 PM
Has anyone got any pictures of the SR25 or the MK11 Mod 0? I never seen a picture of a Navy Seal using one :(

http://netfiles.uiuc.edu/pzavisla/hostedmilitaryimages/special%20forces221.jpg


nice grab. and that's the ONLY photo i have of a navy SEAL with the SPR. :(

i wish i had more. those guys are badass. :)

How do you know this is a Navy Seal?

lets say im pretty sure. from what they are wearing i think they are seals

*Teryan*
03-27-2004, 11:16 PM
I heard that the marines M40a3 was going to be fited with a silencer. Probly a rumor, and it does not make sence to me, beacuse of the loss of accuracy and distance from a silencer (things that define a sniper rifle). Any one heard any thing of this?
Here is a vid of someone shooting one with a silence:
http://opsinc.us/video.php
Second down, third over.

Any one have any photos or vids of an m40a3, other than what is on the google image search? Thanks.

MaxPayne
03-28-2004, 05:08 AM
I heard that the marines M40a3 was going to be fited with a silencer. Probly a rumor, and it does not make sence to me, beacuse of the loss of accuracy and distance from a silencer (things that define a sniper rifle). Any one heard any thing of this?
Here is a vid of someone shooting one with a silence:
http://opsinc.us/video.php
Second down, third over.

Any one have any photos or vids of an m40a3, other than what is on the google image search? Thanks.

i've seen a pic of suppressed m40 but i cant remember where
but i found this its a cool pic i think :
Bill Lancester
http://www.snipercountry.com/photogallery/25ID_Vietnam_Dusk.asp

and a sniper rifle with a silencer makes sence but not always. see like bill lancester and other "riverin snipers" in vietnam silenced there weapons cause they didnt want to be heard and often there wasnt a big distance between the enemy and the sniper

Seoulstriker
03-28-2004, 06:42 PM
Has anyone got any pictures of the SR25 or the MK11 Mod 0? I never seen a picture of a Navy Seal using one :(

http://netfiles.uiuc.edu/pzavisla/hostedmilitaryimages/special%20forces221.jpg


nice grab. and that's the ONLY photo i have of a navy SEAL with the SPR. :(

i wish i had more. those guys are badass. :)

How do you know this is a Navy Seal?

just by looking at his gear. i think. :)

snip1er
03-29-2004, 03:44 PM
I heard that the marines M40a3 was going to be fited with a silencer. Probly a rumor, and it does not make sence to me, beacuse of the loss of accuracy and distance from a silencer (things that define a sniper rifle). Any one heard any thing of this?

I have absolutely no idea where you get your information but it is very wrong! First off, they are properly referred to as sound suppressors. They do not silence the weapon but they do suppress the sound.

Then next fact you got wrong was the accuracy bit. Suppressors do not degrade the accuracy of a rifle. Depending on type of ammunition, they can actually improve the accuracy because of the “free bore” effect. Ballistics are very different between normal ammunition and subsonic ammunition, but accuracy is relevant to the type pf ammo being used.

atnadastra
03-29-2004, 04:21 PM
http://www.sportingguns.com.au/Rifles/AMP/images/dsr-no1c.jpg

Helex, what is that gun?

And is that top barrel a 20mm grenade launcher?

MaDuce
03-29-2004, 04:24 PM
http://world.guns.ru/sniper/cheytac-1.jpg

CheyTac LRRS, including Intervention M200 rifle with scope, .408 CheyTac ammunition, and tactical ballistic computer

http://world.guns.ru/sniper/cheytac-ammo.jpg

408 CheyTac cartridge (middle) compared to .50BMG (left) and .338Lapua (right)
http://world.guns.ru/sniper/hk_psg1_l.jpg
PSG-1 arguably the best urban law enforcement/CT sniper rifle in the world. But to fragile for military use. Cost= 10,000 USD.
http://world.guns.ru/sniper/hk_msg90a1.jpg

HK MSG-90A1, a modified design for US DMR (Designated Marksman Rifle) program
A some what cheaper militerized version of the PSG-1.
http://world.guns.ru/sniper/rt-20.jpg

RT-20 antimateriel rifle. Note the reactive counter-recoil tube above the barrel.


http://world.guns.ru/sniper/rt20_1.jpg
http://world.guns.ru/sniper/20hs404.jpg

cartridge size comparision: .50 BMG (top) and the 20x110mm Hispano (below)

Made in Croatia...I would hate to be be in a vehicle on the reciving end of this.

*Teryan*
03-29-2004, 05:18 PM
Then next fact you got wrong was the accuracy bit. Suppressors do not degrade the accuracy of a rifle. Depending on type of ammunition, they can actually improve the accuracy because of the “free bore” effect. Ballistics are very different between normal ammunition and subsonic ammunition, but accuracy is relevant to the type pf ammo being used.

Is't a subsonic round slower than a regular rifle round? Arn't slower rounds less accurant than faster ones (in general) and can't go as far? Ballistics may be different between rounds, but physics is not. How can a supressor improve accuracy? I always thought it was an extension (with no rifling) so that the powder could all burn.

Like I said it was a rummor.

Seraphim
03-29-2004, 05:22 PM
Subsonic..IE slower than the speed of sound.

HELEX
03-29-2004, 05:25 PM
@atnadastra


Helex, what is that gun?

And is that top barrel a 20mm grenade launcher?

Its a "DSR No.1 Präzisionsgewehr", a Sniperrifle built in Oberndorf, Germany. Has ultra high precision.

Available from 308 Winchester to 338 Lapua.

No grenade launcher, the second Magazine in front of the trigger is just spare Ammo.

http://hpbimg.i-e-a.de/DSR1%20CAMO%20frei%20%20640%20internet.jpg

Morpheus32
03-29-2004, 05:40 PM
Is't a subsonic round slower than a regular rifle round? Arn't slower rounds less accurant than faster ones (in general) and can't go as far? Ballistics may be different between rounds, but physics is not. How can a supressor improve accuracy? I always thought it was an extension (with no rifling) so that the powder could all burn.

Like I said it was a rummor.

A subsonic round is slower than a regular round. Although a round is slower it does not mean it is less accurate. Consistancy is a function of accuracy. The fact that the bullet will do the same thing each time will determine the accuracy.

A suppressor will reduce the signature of the rifle but can not reduce the super sonic crack of a round. Sub sonic ammo travel below the speed of sound and thus can be suppressed the best. A suppressor is not a barrel extension but an attachment that suppresses the signature by using the gases in various baffles and section. Various designs do it different ways but in essence they are the same.

By the way exterior ballistics is not simple physics. There are alot of factors that influence a projectile in flight. But that is a different thread altogether.

Jeff

Seraphim
03-29-2004, 05:45 PM
http://www.sportingguns.com.au/Rifles/AMP/images/dsr-no1c.jpg

Helex, what is that gun?

And is that top barrel a 20mm grenade launcher?


Night vision optics

0#256
03-29-2004, 05:50 PM
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Crazy_Ivan
03-30-2004, 11:31 AM
to: PermskiiOMON
Do You know, that Dragunow made a prototype of full automatic SWD? The army did not accept it, but there's no doubt, that it was made ;)

shrek
04-27-2004, 08:24 AM
†Seraphim†: No Ninja, SPEARs long underwear. Loop to keep them from riding up arm. I love'em


Wholagun: What semi-auto would you replace the M-14 with?

shrek
04-27-2004, 08:28 AM
As hard as it was for an old gun lover like me to believe the supressors on our M-4's actually "improved" accurarcy a notable amount. If you've seen how these things connect to the weapon you know why this is suprising. Any thoughts from ballistics lovers?

budanski
04-27-2004, 08:42 AM
Sniper Tactics Dominate the Iraqi Battlefields
Strategypage (http://www.strategypage.com//fyeo/howtomakewar/default.asp?target=HTINF.HTM)

April 25, 2004: The U.S. Army found that more frequent and aggressive use of snipers made for more successful combat operations in Iraq. Each army brigade now has about three dozen trained snipers, and most brigades have encouraged the selection and training of more snipers within infantry companies. The ability to take down enemy troops with single shots is a major combat advantage, but can only be done if you have better trained troops and much better reconnaissance and observation on the battlefield.*

The army has a five week sniper school, and the marines have a ten week course that is considered one of the best in the world. These schools turn out professional snipers who know how to operate independently in two man teams. Marine regiments (about the same size as army brigades) have about three times as many snipers per battalion as army units. But both the army and the marines are taking advantage of the greater number of veteran troops in their combat units, and the fact that just about every soldier has a rifle with a scope, and has a lot of target practice behind them. Infantry commanders are encouraged to find and designate about ten percent of their men as “sharpshooters” (sort of “sniper lite”) and make use of these guys to take out enemy troops at a distance, and with single shots. This is a trend that has been growing for over a decade, but has now become a major feature of American infantry tactics.*

The marines won’t release any numbers of sniper kills (except that the top scoring sniper in Fallujah has 24 kills so far), but it is known from emails coming back that the marines use snipers, and sniping tactics (for non-snipers), extensively. Part of this is to comply with the Rules of Engagement (ROE) that call for minimizing civilian casualties. Most often, the marines only use a lot of fire power when they are ambushed (there is no better way to deal with an ambush than to blast your way out of it). But most of the Iraqi gunmen are killed by single shots, usually by the trained snipers, after the snipers and their commanders had carefully set up sniper firing positions that covered areas they knew Iraqis liked to travel through. UAVs and lots of scouting, plus questioning of prisoners, reveals the Iraqi routes and makes them deadly to use. This has terrorized the Iraqis, which is exactly what it is intended to do. The army and marine snipers particularly like to work at night, when their night vision and thermal imaging equipment enables them to shoot accurately in the darkness. This further reduces the chance of civilian losses, and increases the terror.

The men who go through the sniper school receive lots of training on how to choose a good shooting position, get to it unseen and remain unseen for as long at is takes to get the shot, or shots, available. These professional snipers also learn to use larger caliber 7.62mm and 12.7mm (.50 caliber) sniper rifles. These are single shot weapons that are designed and built for accuracy at very long ranges (over a thousand meters for the 12.7mm rifle.) The “sharpshooters” are mainly excellent shots at shorter ranges, and have whatever training they can pick up on how to find the best shooting position. Army and marine officers have learned how to use snipers more frequently in the past two decades. Instead of regarding the snipers as just a specialized weapon, for special occasions, combat unit commanders now see snipers as a standard type of trooper, to be used immediately in any combat situation, just as they would mix and match riflemen, machinegunners, grenadiers (with 40mm grenade launchers) and other weapons available to infantry companies and battalions.*

The emphasis on greater accuracy in the use of weapons now applies to all weapons. Better trained troops can carry out complex battlefield maneuvers automatically, even when (especially when) under fire. While some of the anti-government gunmen in Iraq have demonstrated evidence of some military training, it has proved far inferior to that of the American troops they face. In combat, the side that is better trained wins, and takes fewer casualties doing so.

wulfstan
04-27-2004, 09:00 AM
What rifle did Shifty Powers use? ;)

Ghostwolf
04-27-2004, 09:31 AM
http://www.armytimes.com/content/editorial/editart/122203front18.jpg

Eotech sight?

What is the maximum effective aiming range of this thing?

Claymore
04-27-2004, 10:06 AM
depends on shooter, target, weather...

Ekie
04-27-2004, 12:20 PM
http://img4.photobucket.com/albums/0603/Ekie12091941/ot_getImage.jpg

http://img4.photobucket.com/albums/0603/Ekie12091941/cvbvcbc.bmp

http://www.photobucket.com/albums/0603/Ekie12091941/3ded67f1.jpg

Ekie
04-27-2004, 12:24 PM
http://img4.photobucket.com/albums/0603/Ekie12091941/ussf40110_001.jpg

http://img4.photobucket.com/albums/0603/Ekie12091941/vbvbv.bmp

http://img4.photobucket.com/albums/0603/Ekie12091941/vbvb.bmp

ZoneOne
04-27-2004, 12:36 PM
awesome pictures man

moughoun
04-27-2004, 12:42 PM
http://img4.photobucket.com/albums/0603/Ekie12091941/ussf40110_001.jpg

http://img4.photobucket.com/albums/0603/Ekie12091941/vbvbv.bmp

http://img4.photobucket.com/albums/0603/Ekie12091941/vbvb.bmp


The guy in the first pic, on the far left is a little chunky isn't he

MVSpartan117
04-27-2004, 05:18 PM
And you care becuase?

el_kab0ng
04-27-2004, 07:04 PM
http://www.reject.org/pr0ject/010503/shootout.jpg

My 700 PSS versus his Dragunov. The difference between a "designated marksman" rifle and a boltie was pretty significant at 400Y.

scrybe
04-27-2004, 08:22 PM
The marines won’t release any numbers of sniper kills (except that the top scoring sniper in Fallujah has 24 kills so far), but it is known from emails coming back that the marines use snipers, and sniping tactics (for non-snipers), extensively.

Damn, that is impressive.

Nizark
04-27-2004, 08:31 PM
future Barret Payload Rifle - 25mm

http://www.gun-world.net/USA/Barrett/osw1.jpg

http://www.gun-world.net/USA/Barrett/payload0001.jpg

http://www.sistemasdearmas.hpg.ig.com.br/notpayload.JPG

holy mother of crap...thats a frickin rifle? I guess for sniping tanks and engine blocks, eh?

scm77
04-27-2004, 09:05 PM
http://img4.photobucket.com/albums/0603/Ekie12091941/cvbvcbc.bmp

Call me crazy but isn't that Vince McMahon from the WWF?

MVSpartan117
04-27-2004, 09:07 PM
http://img4.photobucket.com/albums/0603/Ekie12091941/cvbvcbc.bmp

Call me crazy but isn't that Vince McMahon from the WWF?


I'll just call you crazy :)

ChuckThunder
04-27-2004, 09:14 PM
http://img4.photobucket.com/albums/0603/Ekie12091941/cvbvcbc.bmp

Call me crazy but isn't that Vince McMahon from the WWF?

Thats what I was thinking...

Dennis G
04-27-2004, 09:58 PM
Hey what Unit is he in?



http://www.armytimes.com/content/editorial/editart/122203front18.jpg

MVSpartan117
04-27-2004, 09:59 PM
3rd Brigade, 2nd Infantry Division I think

J-10
04-27-2004, 10:51 PM
http://img42.photobucket.com/albums/v129/moughoun/sniperteam16.jpg

http://img42.photobucket.com/albums/v129/moughoun/sniperteam12.jpg

http://showguns.nease.net/mqtj%2011/jjbq/tx/048_jpg.jpg

http://showguns.nease.net/mqtj%2011/jjbq/tx/051_jpg.jpg

http://showguns.nease.net/mqtj%2011/jjbq/tx/044_jpg.jpg

http://photos.gznet.com/photos/1177213/1177213-Gzv1fIf9dM.jpg

http://photos.gznet.com/photos/1177213/1177213-Rw8H!$FRca.jpg

http://photos.gznet.com/photos/1177213/1177213-v4FgtP!qb8.jpg

http://photos.gznet.com/photos/1177213/1177213-L13SFd$r7j.jpg

http://photos.gznet.com/photos/1177213/1177213-n1vsGg4Mjg.jpg

http://www.poliziadistato.it/pds/download/images/sfondo_tiratori_1024x768.jpg
NOCS

http://www.poliziadistato.it/pds/download/images/tiratore1024x768.jpg

http://dboy.cpgl.net/USA/Barrett/SniperE05.jpg

http://zhtz.xiloo.com/jujishou/Bb2.jpg

http://www.gun-world.net/USA/Barrett/SniperE02.jpg

http://dboy.cpgl.net/USA/remington/700/m24/sniperschool7.jpg

http://zhtz.xiloo.com/jujishou/Ba2.jpg

http://armysky.com/bbs/uploadfile/20042112132773073.jpg

http://armysky.com/bbs/uploadfile/20042112191562403.jpg
Type 88 5.8mm Sniper

http://armysky.com/bbs/uploadfile/200421121112821392.jpg

http://www.zhanguoce.net/UploadFile/20041412521530268.jpg

J-10
04-27-2004, 11:16 PM
http://cgi.qianlong.com/mility/bqzs3/large/10000/22500.jpg
Germany DSR NO.1 for police

http://cgi.qianlong.com/mility/bqzs3/large/10000/22502.jpg

http://cgi.qianlong.com/mility/bqzs3/large/10000/10354.jpg

http://cgi.qianlong.com/mility/bqzs3/large/10000/20103.jpg
http://cgi.qianlong.com/mility/bqzs3/large/10000/20116.jpg

http://bbs.wo123.com/bbs/attachments/1tC5+tfUtq+y4teww+nXvL61_KuShDlKW6ZJm.jpg

http://www.cycnet.com/army/news/images/0913/0912_6.jpg

http://www.bithome.net/qbq.com.cn/UploadFile/2004-1/20041911595958376.jpg

http://armysky.com/bbs/UploadFile/2003122819513329670.jpg
This pic was in the China-vietnam border war in 1984.

http://bbs.playwest.com/attachments/9gEe_001_jpg.jpg
SSG3000

http://bbs.playwest.com/attachments/4Rlf_004_jpg.jpg
SG550

http://bbs.playwest.com/attachments/ezpd_003_jpg.jpg
ssg2000

http://bbs.playwest.com/attachments/9sfd_005_jpg.jpg
99 sniper rifle

http://bbs.playwest.com/attachments/PGXC_006_jpg.jpg
99SR

http://bbs.playwest.com/attachments/Icky_007_jpg.jpg
AR 7.62mm

http://bbs.playwest.com/attachments/wyDU_008_jpg.jpg
MSG3

http://bbs.playwest.com/attachments/SAeK_009_jpg.jpg
PSG-1

http://bbs.playwest.com/attachments/2XeR_010_jpg.jpg
R93

http://bbs.playwest.com/attachments/M36R_011_jpg.jpg
G3

http://bbs.playwest.com/attachments/EqZS_013_jpg.jpg
TAC-50

J-10
04-27-2004, 11:28 PM
http://www.chinamil.com/zj/sniper/falcon2.jpg
Falcon OP96/OP99 12.7x99mm

http://www.chinamil.com/zj/sniper/ai-aw50.jpg
AI Arctic Warfare .50(AW-50) (12.7x99 mm)

http://www.chinamil.com/zj/sniper/svn98.jpg
KSVK 12.7mm

http://www.chinamil.com/zj/sniper/rt20_1.jpg
RT-20 20x110mm Hispano

http://www.chinamil.com/zj/sniper/hecate_ii.jpg
PGM UR Hecate II 12.7x99 mm

http://www.chinamil.com/zj/sniper/v94.jpg
V-94 12.7 x 108mm

http://www.chinamil.com/zj/sniper/ksvk.jpg
KSVK 12.7mm

Crazyjack
04-28-2004, 03:21 AM
http://cgi.qianlong.com/mility/bqzs3/large/10000/22500.jpg
Germany DSR NO.1 for police


Looks nice!
But here´s my question:
Do you kill the Tango with all the Surefirelaserpointergadgets before you are able to fire a bullet?

J-10
04-28-2004, 03:41 AM
But here´s my question:
Do you kill the Tango with all the Surefirelaserpointergadgets before you are able to fire a bullet?

I think it is just a "show", how complicated it is! haha :D

Claymore
04-28-2004, 10:20 AM
http://zhtz.xiloo.com/jujishou/Ba2.jpg



Black/dark green beret with ghillie? :roll:

Yeah, I know that they want to show their unit, but still...

Snipers of Swedish lappland jaegers? (...somehow in desert, heh heh)

deutschersoldat
04-28-2004, 03:37 PM
oh i am afraid


http://www.zhanguoce.net/UploadFile/20041412521530268.jpg

Dennis G
04-28-2004, 03:49 PM
oh i am afraid



You should be they are some scary mother ****ers ;)

TacoDelRio
04-28-2004, 05:05 PM
Oooh looks like they've got Strider knives.

Yeah, you wouldn't be scared of them until they bust into your house at 2am, getting some payback, ey?! :bash:

Anyone know what Dep't. that is? Looks local.

DB p-)

Dennis G
04-28-2004, 05:18 PM
Man I love Strider knives


Oooh looks like they've got Strider knives.

Yeah, you wouldn't be scared of them until they bust into your house at 2am, getting some payback, ey?! :bash:

Anyone know what Dep't. that is? Looks local.

DB p-)

I think they are Marines(SRT) not Police(SWAT)

Dennis G
04-28-2004, 05:19 PM
I dont know they might be SWAT



http://www.striderknives.com/

Aussie E
05-29-2004, 07:23 PM
http://img35.photobucket.com/albums/v107/Lumpy196/M14_SS.jpg
SEEKING OUT INSURGENTS — A soldier with Comanche Company 1st Battalion, 23 Infantry Regiment, 3rd Brigade, 2nd Infantry Division Stryker Brigade Combat Team looks through his scope of an M-14 sniper rifle in Mosul, Iraq, May 13, 2004. C Company was conducting a search for insurgents. U.S. Army photo by Sgt. Jeremiah Johnson

ZeroPositive
05-30-2004, 12:05 AM
http://img35.photobucket.com/albums/v107/Lumpy196/M14_SS.jpg
SEEKING OUT INSURGENTS — A soldier with Comanche Company 1st Battalion, 23 Infantry Regiment, 3rd Brigade, 2nd Infantry Division Stryker Brigade Combat Team looks through his scope of an M-14 sniper rifle in Mosul, Iraq, May 13, 2004. C Company was conducting a search for insurgents. U.S. Army photo by Sgt. Jeremiah Johnson

say is he wearing RAID style shirt or is it by a contracted US company that makes the new shirts in that style?
I love that photo got it saved, it looks the Sh*t

AFG
05-30-2004, 12:05 AM
nice pic and bump aussie E

btw in the last page whoever asked what Shifty Powers used, it was an M1 Garand

Operation Ivy
05-30-2004, 12:26 AM
nice pic and bump aussie E

btw in the last page whoever asked what Shifty Powers used, it was an M1 Garand

Now how did u know that AFG, or should i call you Shifty ;) :D

REMOV
05-30-2004, 05:34 AM
http://img13.imageshack.us/img13/3821/r0404wilk01.jpg
http://img13.imageshack.us/img13/1047/r0404wilk02.jpg
http://img15.imageshack.us/img15/7396/r0404wilk03.jpg

mack pl
05-30-2004, 05:55 AM
/\ WKW (Wielkokalibrowy Karabin Wyborowy) Wilk woot

droopy
05-30-2004, 06:16 AM
http://home.wanadoo.nl/barebow/barebow/images/US%20Afghan%20M14%202002.jpg

At the right of the picture how short is that guy or how tall is the guy on his left ?It almost looks like the tall one is a bullet shield to the small one.
No disrespect just an observation

Helly
05-30-2004, 06:36 AM
oh i am afraid


http://www.zhanguoce.net/UploadFile/20041412521530268.jpg



Oooh looks like they've got Strider knives.

Yeah, you wouldn't be scared of them until they bust into your house at 2am, getting some payback, ey?! :bash:

Anyone know what Dep't. that is? Looks local.


They're from the LA County Sheriff's Special Enforcement Bureau (SEB) (http://www.lasd.org/divisions/homeland_sec/seb/function.html).

The sniper rifles they're using (except for the Barrett) are made by Tactical Operations (http://www.tacticaloperations.com/), the Tango 51. It's reputedly a very accurate rifle, guaranteed 1/4 MOA accuracy with factory Federal match-grade ammo.

Read about the Tango 51 here (http://www.snipercentral.com/tango51.htm). SWAT article available here (http://www.tacticaloperations.com/SWATtango51/).

Claymore
05-30-2004, 07:32 AM
http://home.wanadoo.nl/barebow/barebow/images/US%20Afghan%20M14%202002.jpg

At the right of the picture how short is that guy or how tall is the guy on his left ?It almost looks like the tall one is a bullet shield to the small one.
No disrespect just an observation

The shorter one is probably she, not he.

cqbrdy
05-30-2004, 08:29 AM
this is what i play with for now.
http://www.metrocast.net/~cgull/LEUPOLD.JPG
Armalite M15A2 5.56mm with a Leupold scope 3x9x40

illuminus33
05-30-2004, 01:04 PM
Some of these may have been posted already but there still my favorites .. enjoy..

Nam snipers

http://img61.photobucket.com/albums/v185/illuminus3/myphotos/snipervet2.bmp

http://img61.photobucket.com/albums/v185/illuminus3/myphotos/snipervet.bmp

http://img61.photobucket.com/albums/v185/illuminus3/myphotos/fire6.jpg

http://img61.photobucket.com/albums/v185/illuminus3/myphotos/25ID_Vietnam_HuntingClub.jpg

http://img61.photobucket.com/albums/v185/illuminus3/myphotos/25ID_Vietnam_Supresser.jpg

The old master .. R.I.P.

http://img61.photobucket.com/albums/v185/illuminus3/myphotos/*******.bmp

odds and ends

http://img61.photobucket.com/albums/v185/illuminus3/myphotos/O30223_M_4248G_004LOWRES.jpg

http://img61.photobucket.com/albums/v185/illuminus3/myphotos/sealsniper3.bmp

http://img61.photobucket.com/albums/v185/illuminus3/myphotos/gittin6.jpg

http://img61.photobucket.com/albums/v185/illuminus3/myphotos/High_Angle_Shooting.gif

http://img61.photobucket.com/albums/v185/illuminus3/myphotos/933277_G.jpg

http://img61.photobucket.com/albums/v185/illuminus3/myphotos/d_cdn04.jpg

http://img61.photobucket.com/albums/v185/illuminus3/myphotos/d2844d9b.jpg

http://img61.photobucket.com/albums/v185/illuminus3/myphotos/one_of_the_boys.bmp

http://img61.photobucket.com/albums/v185/illuminus3/myphotos/sealsniper4.bmp

http://img61.photobucket.com/albums/v185/illuminus3/myphotos/4Day1.jpg

http://img61.photobucket.com/albums/v185/illuminus3/myphotos/brm_training11.jpg

http://img61.photobucket.com/albums/v185/illuminus3/myphotos/031221-A-6070J-021.jpg

MaxPayne
05-30-2004, 01:15 PM
http://img61.photobucket.com/albums/v185/illuminus3/myphotos/one_of_the_boys.bmp

hi res anybody????

Identity31690
07-17-2004, 08:12 PM
http://www.usmc.mil/marinelink/image1.nsf/ae82f18a8e1b160b852568ba007e7e5e/64d416e0bfbdde7285256eac00091165/$FILE/Release0255-2004-10.jpg

http://www.usmc.mil/marinelink/image1.nsf/ae82f18a8e1b160b852568ba007e7e5e/55373eca3abb80e185256d91005161ce/$FILE/DSC_0041.JPG

http://www.usmc.mil/marinelink/image1.nsf/ae82f18a8e1b160b852568ba007e7e5e/803b0205d23559b385256eac00079c53/$FILE/Release0255-2004-13.jpg

http://www.usmc.mil/marinelink/image1.nsf/ae82f18a8e1b160b852568ba007e7e5e/79d135d52227e09585256eab0082d38e/$FILE/Release0255-2004-02.jpg

http://www.usmc.mil/marinelink/image1.nsf/ae82f18a8e1b160b852568ba007e7e5e/37204d60815bba2485256e770073e62c/$FILE/bush.jpg

http://www.usmc.mil/marinelink/image1.nsf/ae82f18a8e1b160b852568ba007e7e5e/1085e861eb5f252c85256b0b005ca718/$FILE/sniper.jpg

http://www.usmc.mil/marinelink/image1.nsf/ae82f18a8e1b160b852568ba007e7e5e/ff7171fba72f255a85256eac0008728d/$FILE/Release0255-2004-14.jpg

Raistlin
07-17-2004, 09:33 PM
http://photos.gznet.com/photos/1177213/1177213-L13SFd$r7j.jpg
Colt Commando with 2 scopes? I'm not an expert but isn't it a bit overblown? Of course, I understand that it's training and he could be just brainstorming.

And another thing, is he by chance from IDF? He gives such impression to me and I have a clue that he's from IDF but it's very very weak.

MEGR
07-17-2004, 09:42 PM
I love this one..

http://www4.army.mil/OCPA/uploads/large/031030-A-8633M-005.jpg

Identity31690
07-18-2004, 01:40 AM
Wow Devgru, nice pic.

Here are some others-

http://nfo.dodmedia.osd.mil/VIS/2004/Marines/DM-SD-04-08880.JPG

http://nfo.dodmedia.osd.mil/VIS/2004/Marines/DM-SD-04-08228.JPG

http://nfo.dodmedia.osd.mil/VIS/2004/Air_Force/DF-SD-04-05589.JPG

http://nfo.dodmedia.osd.mil/VIS/2004/Air_Force/DF-SD-04-05552.JPG

http://nfo.dodmedia.osd.mil/VIS/2004/Marines/DM-SD-04-04060.JPG

http://nfo.dodmedia.osd.mil/VIS/2003/Marines/DM-SD-03-08055.JPG

http://nfo.dodmedia.osd.mil/VIS/2002/Marines/DM-SD-02-00522.JPG

http://nfo.dodmedia.osd.mil/VIS/2002/Marines/DM-SD-02-00491.JPG

http://nfo.dodmedia.osd.mil/VIS/1998/Marines/DM-SD-98-06539.JPG

http://nfo.dodmedia.osd.mil/VIS/1998/Marines/DM-SD-98-06552.JPG

http://nfo.dodmedia.osd.mil/VIS/1998/Navy/DN-ST-98-00968.JPG

http://nfo.dodmedia.osd.mil/VIS/1998/Army/DA-ST-98-02347.JPG

http://nfo.dodmedia.osd.mil/VIS/1997/Navy/DN-ST-97-00334.JPG

http://nfo.dodmedia.osd.mil/VIS/1988/Marines/DM-ST-88-09889.JPG

http://nfo.dodmedia.osd.mil/VIS/1988/Marines/DM-ST-88-07422.JPG

http://nfo.dodmedia.osd.mil/VIS/2004/Marines/DM-SD-04-08890.JPG

http://nfo.dodmedia.osd.mil/VIS/2003/Air_Force/DF-SD-03-04373.JPG

http://nfo.dodmedia.osd.mil/VIS/2003/Marines/DM-SD-03-08053.JPG

cqbrdy
08-26-2004, 10:32 AM
heres a post i found about more snipers
its good one

graphicsguy at PH
08-26-2004, 11:03 AM
http://photos.gznet.com/photos/1177213/1177213-L13SFd$r7j.jpg
Colt Commando with 2 scopes? I'm not an expert but isn't it a bit overblown? Of course, I understand that it's training and he could be just brainstorming.

And another thing, is he by chance from IDF? He gives such impression to me and I have a clue that he's from IDF but it's very very weak.

Looks like some kind of collimator.
http://www.hallwatts.co.uk/basic/products/dzd.html
http://www.hallwatts.co.uk/basic/products/dzd_picts/dzd_on_a_rifle.jpg
http://www.pyser-sgi.com/index.asp?ParentID=226

http://www.pyser-sgi.com/images/thumbnails/Defence/Riot%20Gun%20SAC%20(thumb).jpg

Then again I could just be right the **** out of 'er......

Raistlin
08-26-2004, 11:14 AM
It looks very much like a scope being put backwards (look at the rubber eyerest). Zoom in and then zoom out? If only I had two telescopes to try it...

Far
08-26-2004, 12:53 PM
Hey what Unit is he in?



http://www.armytimes.com/content/editorial/editart/122203front18.jpg

maybe:
Comanche Company 1st Battalion, 23 Infantry Regiment, 3rd Brigade, 2nd Infantry Division Stryker Brigade Combat Team?

Tranceaddict
08-26-2004, 12:56 PM
well you sure nailed that one :lol:

Far
08-26-2004, 02:33 PM
heres a post i found about more snipers
its good one

????

moughoun
08-26-2004, 02:42 PM
Hey what Unit is he in?



http://www.armytimes.com/content/editorial/editart/122203front18.jpg

maybe:
Comanche Company 1st Battalion, 23 Infantry Regiment, 3rd Brigade, 2nd Infantry Division Stryker Brigade Combat Team?

He's a marksman, not a sniper! :roll:

Seoulstriker
08-26-2004, 02:48 PM
heres a post i found about more snipers
its good one

????

Someone was trying to start another sniper thread, but this is the thread for it.

KBar666
03-23-2008, 07:50 PM
Navy SEALs use the SPR alot actuly,considering it was devolop by thier request.

LaoSexMachine
03-23-2008, 07:52 PM
Holy shat!!!!!!!!

SkyUS
03-23-2008, 08:28 PM
Mate you resurrected a 4years old thread for that. Good Job, you will fit in just right.

Welcome to MP.net

Sand Man
03-24-2008, 09:25 AM
Holy shat!!!!!!!!

Imagine your avatar saying that. It's hilarious. p-)


... and yes, that kBar dude will fit in just right.

GETSOME
03-24-2008, 04:26 PM
Great thread,thanks guys.;)