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06-02-2006, 12:32 PM
'Carrot-stick' deal agreed on Iran





VIENNA, Austria (CNN) -- Six world powers have agreed to "substantive" incentives in an attempt to coax Iran to abandon its uranium enrichment.
In a move aimed at ending the diplomatic standoff over a program a former U.N. chief weapons inspector has called a threat to the world, the five veto-wielding members of the U.N. Security Council, along with Germany, agreed on a "set of far-reaching proposals" on Thursday.
While details on the proposed rewards will be kept secret until Iran has seen the proposals, British Foreign Secretary Margaret Beckett said they will form the foundation for resuming talks with Iran.
The package still hinges on Iran halting its nuclear enrichment program -- a demand Tehran scoffed at earlier Thursday. (Watch what will happen next if Iran does not agree -- 2:08 (javascript:cnnVideo('play','/video/world/2006/06/02/ensor.vienna.iran.talks.ap','2006/06/09');))
"We believe that (the proposals) offer Iran the chance to reach a negotiated agreement based on cooperation," Beckett said.
"We urge Iran to take the positive path and to consider seriously our substantive proposals, which would bring significant benefits to Iran." (Watch Beckett announce the plan -- 1:30 (javascript:cnnVideo('play','/video/world/2006/06/01/sot.beckett.iran.ap','2006/06/08');))
The incentive proposal follows U.S. Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice's meeting with foreign ministers from Britain, China, France, Germany and Russia in Vienna, Austria, the headquarters of the U.N.'s International Atomic Energy Agency.
The United States initially frowned on the idea of talking directly with Iran, but Rice said the U.S. altered what seemed to be an adamant policy because the U.S. "might be able now to add weight to the negotiating track by joining these discussions." (Watch the U.S. strategy on Iran -- 2:23 (javascript:cnnVideo('play','/video/politics/2006/06/01/roberts.iran.white.house.cnn','2006/06/08');))
A senior U.S. State Department official said European diplomats will present the proposal to Iran, probably happen within the next few days. Iran will have "weeks" to respond, the official said.
If Iran agrees to suspend its nuclear reprocessing and enrichment activities, potential Security Council actions against Tehran will be suspended, Beckett said. If Iran refuses, "further steps would have to be taken in the Security Council," she said without elaborating.
The announcement appears to mark the first time China and Russia have been on the same page as Washington regarding the issue.
Though the consequences of Iran refusing to halt enrichment weren't laid out, China and Russia's agreement to the deal is key.
The two countries have hesitated to call for sanctions on Iran in the past, and both could veto any Security Council resolution punishing Iran for refusing to stop its enrichment and reprocessing activities.
President Bush said earlier Thursday that he was trying to persuade the Chinese and Russian presidents to endorse sanctions in the event Iran continues enriching uranium.
A senior State Department official said after Beckett's announcement that the U.S. "got the deal we came here to get."
[/URL] (http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/)Blix report

Beckett's announcement came as former weapons inspector Hans Blix submitted a 225-page report to U.N. Secretary-General Kofi Annan stating that Iran should stop its uranium-enrichment program, but it probably won't.
"(Iranians) see 130,000 American soldiers in Iraq, and they see American bases in Pakistan and in Afghanistan, and more American military activities to the north of them," he said, adding that Iran remembers well the foreign-born coup of 1953 that ousted Iranian Prime Minister Mohammed Mossadeq.
The Blix Commission, whose work was paid for largely by the Swedish government and the private Canadian-based Simons Foundation, also stated that Iran should not be singled out and that nations like Saudi Arabia, Syria, Egypt and Israel should also be included in "a weapons-free zone."
The Simons Foundation calls itself an advocate for peace and disarmament. Blix oversaw the U.N. investigation into whether Iraq had biological and chemical weapons.
Despite Iran's insistence that its nuclear program is solely for peaceful purposes, the United States and its European allies fear the nation is attempting to develop nuclear weapons.
Iran ended its voluntary cooperation with the IAEA in February, which included ending surprise inspections of its nuclear facilities.
Iran said in April that it used 164 centrifuges to produce energy-grade uranium, but experts say thousands of centrifuges are needed to produce the necessary concentrations for a nuclear bomb.
Iran plans to start building 3,000 centrifuges by year's end, a process that would take at least three years, according to the Institute for Science and International Security, led by former U.N. nuclear inspector David Albright.
(http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/)Inalienable nuclear rights

As the world powers met in Vienna on Thursday, the Iranian Foreign Ministry spokesman urged the foreign ministers to "respect our right" to a peaceful nuclear energy program.
"If they do not try to prevent Iran to have and to exercise their right, well then, we will see a different horizon," said Hamid Reza-Assefi.
Rice said Thursday that the United States acknowledges the right of the Iranian people to civil nuclear energy, but the country's history of violating its commitments and working on a secret nuclear program mean it must now "persuasively demonstrate" that it is not pursuing nuclear weapons.
Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad also has raised concerns with his assertions that the Holocaust never took place and that Israel should be wiped off the map.

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joshfox0
06-02-2006, 02:37 PM
while i think its appeasement i do hope it goes well and Iran accept the terms. however i do worry that even if you make this deal the Iranians will carry on just covertly.

Snoshi
06-02-2006, 04:36 PM
They rejected them already..

Lazy Lob
06-02-2006, 05:04 PM
The Russians and Chinese are in this for similar but different reasons. The Chinese need oil and are desperate for it. If their economy falters they're screwed in more ways than one, so are we. They will sign deals with the devil for oil.

The Russians on the other hand have an energy surplus. They will back Iran and then change sides. They want instability to push energy prices up. They need cash. So the greater threat of war the better for their oil/gas revenues.

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mattnwnc03
06-05-2006, 09:52 AM
i guess north korea is going to start talking nukes again so they can get some free pie

Clarsachier
06-05-2006, 10:40 AM
on this one. Notice the oil price jump after a simple press release from Iran?
China isn't the only country who's economy will falter. And look who gains from a drastic oil price in crease.

Hope the west's politicians surprise me and handle this intelligently.

Edited to observe that ; It appears that the combined diplomatic ability of the UN have done just that.

http://www.iht.com/articles/2006/06/06/america/web.0606diplo.php


The United States and Europe also agreed to back Iran's membership in the World Trade Organization.

The most compelling item, though, may be the American offer to end its nearly three-decade policy against direct talks with Iran and to join in the negotiations over Iran's nuclear program.

That proposal is the centerpiece of the administration's recent shift in strategy toward Iran, which President Bush views as the No. 1 state sponsor of terrorism.

The decision to include the sale of Boeing aircraft parts, along with aircraft and parts from Airbus, is a huge step, particularly for the United States.

This is humongous ; The U.S. has administratively 'suspended Iranian sanctions' several times only to not grant U.S. exporters licenses and permissions to make any exports.

Since this is only a fraction of the 'incentives' offered, it's easy to see that Iranian leadership are
faced with a tough choice ; 'Proceed with the dubious benefits of nuclear enrichment' and face sanctions or, obtain something they havn't had for 30 years - access to U.S. exports and (presumably) our markets. A 'no brainer' IMHO. Good Stuff!!!!!!

Oh BTW ; for those who promote the 'diplomacy = appeasement', 'bomb 'em all' 'strategic viewpoint, go back to your video games, yur 'war is cool' movies 'compose some more aplogisms
about how Iraq' and basically - fvck off.