View Full Version : What US Army Special Operations Group is more elite?
Sierra
03-19-2004, 08:00 PM
1.Rangers
2. Special Forces
and out of those 2, the more elite of those 2 or
Delta Force (I think they are the most elite)
and something I just found out is that Special Forces used to be known as the Green Berets. So thats what happened to them
Tane Angle
03-19-2004, 08:21 PM
Well, neither SF nor the 75th Rangers is really more elite than the other. They do different things; this is an over simplification, but the Rangers' traditional role has been to hit targets themselves, while SF's traditional role has been to train others to hit targets, while still being extremely adept fighters themselves.
Also, Green Beret's is more of a nickname. The official name has always been Special Forces, though now it's a command as well.
Delta is still the cream of SF and Rangers, though it's not for every personality. Therefore, just because a Ranger is a Ranger or a SF soldier is in SF, it doesn't make them any less of a man or a soldier than a Delta operator. Having said that, Delta's are the pinnacle of soldiers. Of course, the military, and the special operations community, are both immensely more complicated than these three units, even in the Army alone. For example, the Army has Psychological Operations and Civil Affairs units and various support special operations units, for starters.
No harm no foul though. They're fair questions, and I certainly had no clue what the answers were many years ago. I've probably got a few years on you though. Me personally, I know that just about the only way I learn is for me to admit first that I don't know something, then to seek out the answer. Have a good one, and just some thoughts...
Resevoir Hogs
03-19-2004, 08:22 PM
Retarded topic
MetalBoy
03-19-2004, 08:25 PM
These guys are definitely the most elite.
http://www.mikes-house-of-cartoons.freeservers.com/images/pic20.gif
Kitsune
03-19-2004, 08:25 PM
Delta Force are not a true part of the Special Forces, although the name 1 Special Forces Detachment Delta seems to suggest it...
They are the most elite unit of the three. Only the very best make it to Delta. Training is top notch, too.
Number two are the regular Special Forces. They may not be "tougher" than Rangers, but their training is more diversified. (Special Forces are great sappers for example). They are also trained to work with indigenous militias and to train them (Rangers are not).
The Rangers are the most regular of the "SpecOps" Units...they are organised and structured similar to "normal" military units. The main difference is that they are much "tougher", survival, recon and airborne trained.
Kitsune
03-19-2004, 08:27 PM
Now you have four different answers, which also contradict each other.
Pick the one you like most.
p-)
-=TFN=-Karab
03-19-2004, 08:30 PM
Delta Force are not a true part of the Special Forces, although the name 1 Special Forces Detachment Delta seems to suggest it...
They are the most elite unit of the three. Only the very best make it to Delta. Training is top notch, too.
Number two are the regular Special Forces. They may not be "tougher" than Rangers, but their training is more diversified. (Special Forces are great spappers for example). They are also trained to work with indigenous militias and to train them (Rangers are not).
The Rangers are the most regular of the "SpecOps" Units...they are organised and structured similar to "normal" military units. The main difference is that they are much "tougher", survival, recon and airborne trained.
Some still do consider them as part of SF for several reasons, but some do not. Does it really matter what part they are? Anyways back to the topic: CAG is the most "publicly" known elite force.
Tane Angle
03-19-2004, 08:36 PM
I might be partial to your answer Kitsune, as I was never a Regiment fella. I think our's are essentially the same answers. Have a good one, just some thoughts...
mocking_loudly_died
03-19-2004, 08:43 PM
I might be partial to your answer Kitsune, as I was never a Regiment fella. I think our's are essentially the same answers. Have a good one, just some thoughts...
Hey tane, were you in the Army or marines? - my memory fails me often.
:D
Tane Angle
03-19-2004, 08:50 PM
No sweat bud, mine does too quite often. I was in the Army. How's life over there?
mocking_loudly_died
03-19-2004, 09:06 PM
No sweat bud, mine does too quite often. I was in the Army. How's life over there?
Last night I was abused @ a local video shop by an angry lady.
Apart from that I can't complain.... except about the following:
*Beer isn't tasting like strawberry milkshakes
*The economy is recovering and exports are coming down (oh the irony)
*This country is to hot
*My bed smells
Tane Angle
03-19-2004, 09:20 PM
I'm sorry to hear that bud. I don't know if there's much I can do about any of that, except maybe suggest carrying mace, making strawberry beershakes, moving to a colder location, and washing your sheets. I once had an apartment that smelled horrible and made me sick. It turned out there was mold in the floor of my room. I moved out. I don't know if that helps you in any way though. Hope tonight goes better for you.
von_Moo142
03-19-2004, 09:33 PM
Can an individual or organisation even be "more elite"?
AFAIK there are no degrees of "eliteness".
Heres a stupid example:
Imagine, that I belonged to an elite group of nitpicking posters. If someone within that group was a better nitpicker I think he/she would just be better than me, rather than more elite.
AOCBravo2004
03-19-2004, 09:57 PM
These guys are definitely the most elite.
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You are soooo wrong MetalBoy it is not even funny!!! My dad swore me to secrecy about this ok, swear you won't tell anyone, but he is the founder of the Mighty Morphin Power Rangers. Shhh, don't tell anyone!!!
George
I beleive Special Forces are more Elite than Rangers, Rangers are a SOF, but Special Forces are up there with Delta.
Special Forces need to be MultiLingual-Rangers Do not
Special Forces need 2 specialties- Rangers Do not
Special Forces training is longer and harder- Ranger School is only 2 months ( not saying ranger school is hard )
NcDeuce
03-20-2004, 01:34 AM
:cantbeli:
Ay
memphiz
03-20-2004, 01:52 AM
I'm sorry to hear that bud. I don't know if there's much I can do about any of that, except maybe suggest carrying mace, making strawberry beershakes, moving to a colder location, and washing your sheets. I once had an apartment that smelled horrible and made me sick. It turned out there was mold in the floor of my room. I moved out. I don't know if that helps you in any way though. Hope tonight goes better for you.
psst...move to Canada and make strawberry molson Canadian beershakes :D . bring clean sheets
James
03-20-2004, 01:56 AM
:cantbeli:
Ay
What he said. What Tane said.
What is a better fruit? An apple or an orange or a bannana? Why?
Trigger
03-20-2004, 02:34 AM
Blue Gorilla says...Banana is more elite! :D
er...I mean whatever unit James is in is the most elite.
4_tune
03-20-2004, 05:04 AM
the member of green beret are much older, tougher and well educated men. :)
Somewhat irrelevant, but anyone wants ice cream?
Salty Dog
03-20-2004, 09:21 AM
Somewhat irrelevant, but anyone wants ice cream?
i will take some ice cream....as long as you don't bring me to an undisclosed location and try to touch me again..... :oops:
Somewhat irrelevant, but anyone wants ice cream?
i will take some ice cream....as long as you don't bring me to an undisclosed location and try to touch me again..... :oops:
Dude, that wasn't me. That was memphiz posing as me...
Salty Dog
03-20-2004, 01:24 PM
Somewhat irrelevant, but anyone wants ice cream?
i will take some ice cream....as long as you don't bring me to an undisclosed location and try to touch me again..... :oops:
Dude, that wasn't me. That was memphiz posing as me...
no....i know his touch....and his touch is not that of a big crazy dutch enraged molester :oops:
ibstolidude
03-20-2004, 01:27 PM
6/73 internet commando brigade
Ngati Tumatauenga
03-20-2004, 02:19 PM
801st mess tin repair Coy (Abn)
11F5S
03-20-2004, 02:25 PM
I beleive Special Forces are more Elite than Rangers, Rangers are a SOF, but Special Forces are up there with Delta.
Special Forces need to be MultiLingual-Rangers Do not
Special Forces need 2 specialties- Rangers Do not
Special Forces training is longer and harder- Ranger School is only 2 months ( not saying ranger school is hard )
It would behoove you to open your mouth only when you fully understand what you are talking about.
11F5S
03-20-2004, 02:41 PM
What US Army Special Operations Group is more elite?
1.Rangers
2. Special Forces
and out of those 2, the more elite of those 2 or
Delta Force (I think they are the most elite)
Please define elite.
and something I just found out is that Special Forces used to be known as the Green Berets. So thats what happened to them
You really should go around to the front of the horse, or better yet I highly recommend that you find better horses for your information.
Who is "them"?
What happened to"them"?
"Them" is the aliens. "Them" are out there... Be afraid.
BTW, didn't the knee injury recover or is life not too short to spend it on the internet after all? p-)
Uncle Sam
03-20-2004, 04:58 PM
I beleive Special Forces are more Elite than Rangers, Rangers are a SOF, but Special Forces are up there with Delta.
Special Forces need to be MultiLingual-Rangers Do not
Special Forces need 2 specialties- Rangers Do not
Special Forces training is longer and harder- Ranger School is only 2 months ( not saying ranger school is hard )
You're joking....right !!! :cantbeli: So, when was the last time you went through Ranger school? Oh, NEVER !!!!
TriggerPuller
03-20-2004, 05:33 PM
- Ranger School is only 2 months ( not saying ranger school is hard ) I hope this is a typo if not STFU about subjects that you have no clue about once again! I wasnt even in the Army and Iam insulted by that comment!
TP
100_Percent_HOOAH
03-20-2004, 06:52 PM
Looks like a typo to me...
Maverick77
03-20-2004, 07:55 PM
He obviously meant to say isnt.
You people need to calm the **** down
one person can type a few words on the internet which mean nothing, absolutely nothing and everyone on the whole ****in set up here goes nuts.
Its the internet for christ sake.
11F5S
03-20-2004, 08:07 PM
He obviously meant to say isnt.
You people need to calm the f*** down
one person can type a few words on the internet which mean nothing, absolutely nothing and everyone on the whole f*** set up here goes nuts.
Its the internet for christ sake.
Either way, he doesn't know WTF he is talking about.
who where has served with these above mentioned units?how the hell do you expcet us to know who is more "elite"?what and who is delta? ;) My opinion is that no one knows the answer to your question because no one here has served in "delta" and to the best of my knowledge no one is in the Green Berets here.My advice will be to join up and find out first hand.
He obviously meant to say isnt.
You people need to calm the f*** down
one person can type a few words on the internet which mean nothing, absolutely nothing and everyone on the whole f*** set up here goes nuts.
Its the internet for christ sake.
Either way, he doesn't know WTF he is talking about.
hey I get all my info from goarmy.com
Ratamacue
03-20-2004, 10:12 PM
Goarmy.com is a recruitment site. Don't be so gullible.
11F5S
03-20-2004, 11:55 PM
IMO a guy who said:
i did not know that they were black guys in the Special operations community in the US
should keep his keyboard in the locked mode for this thread.
And by the way....I'm authorized to wear the green beanie.
IMO a guy who said:
i did not know that they were black guys in the Special operations community in the US
should keep his keyboard in the locked mode for this thread.
And by the way....I'm authorized to wear the green beanie.
oh that well,i wanted to provoke a discussion on that topic.I am sorry if i slighted you in anyway.If you are a Green beret then you will understand why i reacted the way i did.I dont know who is more elite and even if i knew i won't tell.If he really wanted to know then he should join up and find out firsthand.11F5S sorry,no disrespect intended your way.It was a slightly overreaching statement i made.And as for the black soldiers comment,well lets just say that was not one of my finset moments. :oops:
Goarmy.com is a recruitment site. Don't be so gullible.
http://sf.goarmy.com/flindex.htm
It sure is a recruitment site, with info about special forces.
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