Cool Picture

[FuturePara]

http://auction2.inetu.net/member/aldepal/specop1web.jpg
I just came across this picture the other day. I know there's been talk of this kind of camo used in the past but the weapons and gear in this hint that it's modern, probably Afghanistan?
Also, do you think they're SEALs, they seem to have the CQBR M4s.
Like the camo!

[Ryan94]

Hi,

nice pic...

But i have a question, is the "normal", i mean the original vietnam used tiger stripe camo used by Special Operation Forces anywhere?

[Wilco]

Judging by the BDU and the obvious Landrover in the background, they seem to be a British Unit, anyone got info on these guys?

[Ryan94]

Judging by the BDU

Is this BDU not a desert Tiger Stripe, made in the USA? Or is it desert DPM of the british forces?

[ShadowNeo]

I'm not sure of what pattern that is, but it isn't British Desert DPM. I do not think they are british either, just judging from the vests loadout and the weapons their using.

[Luxembourger]

I doubt that they are british , the fact that they are using a landrover does not mean they are british , for exemple remember the pictures you saw on TV during the Mazar Sharif prison uprise in 2002 afghanistan, there was a bunch of Amercan special forces showing up in white stretched Rovers . [/quote]

[ShadowNeo]

http://www.georgia-outfitters.com/images/odtsbdu_small.jpg

Looks alot like desert tigerstripe.

[ShadowNeo]

[edit] mispost [edit]

[basket of soft kittens]

MY GOD THEIR BEATIFUL. :D

[HELEX]

Maybe SAS?

[ShadowNeo]

SAS tend to stick to standard British DPM, so I thinkt hats doubtful.

[ChuckThunder]

http://auction2.inetu.net/member/aldepal/specop1web.jpg
I just came across this picture the other day. I know there's been talk of this kind of camo used in the past but the weapons and gear in this hint that it's modern, probably Afghanistan?
Also, do you think they're SEALs, they seem to have the CQBR M4s.
Like the camo!

I say they're SEALs, just 'cause. Not because of their CQBRs, any hi speed dude could be using those.

[admar2]

I think they are airsofters

:lol:

[Dominique]

I'm going to take a WAG on this one and say they could be Czech. If IIRC they have a wouldland camo patern that's similar to the desert one they are wearing, some of their SF units use M-4's, and they also have a Land Rover Defenders in their inventory.

[I love Rachael Leigh Cook]

Well, they're certainly doing a pretty good job of hiding their identities, no?

The helmet carried by the fellow on the left appears to be American. The same fellow also has a Magpul modular buttstock on his weapon, seen here:
http://www.bizplaces.com/magpul/detail.asp?PRODUCT_ID=9311a

[ChuckThunder]

Well, they're certainly doing a pretty good job of hiding their identities, no?

The helmet carried by the fellow on the left appears to be American.

Like the ones these SEALs are using... oh some of them seem to be wearing the same hiking boots too. :roll:

http://media.militaryphotos.net/photos/us_naval_special_warfare_command/aaa

[I love Rachael Leigh Cook]

Chuck: a slight hijak, but what kind of weapon (lmg?) is being carried by the fellow on the right in your picture?

[ChuckThunder]

Chuck: a slight hijak, but what kind of weapon (lmg?) is being carried by the fellow on the right in your picture?

MK46 with a tele. stock. In lay terms, a modded M249 (Minimi)

http://www.fnhusa.com/contents/mg_mk46.htm

[I love Rachael Leigh Cook]

Oops! I meant the LEFT, the futuristic looking one. Obviously I am not drunk enough for this......

[ChuckThunder]

Oops! I meant the LEFT, the futuristic looking one. Obviously I am not drunk enough for this......

Its a M60E4 or MK43. I can never tell the difference, all I know is that it is a machine gun of the M60 family and fires 7.62x51mm.

[I love Rachael Leigh Cook]

Thanx, that one's been bugging me for a while.

[EODSGT]

Anyone consider the possibility they could be paramilitary or PMC folks?

[ChuckThunder]

Anyone consider the possibility they could be paramilitary or PMC folks?

Eh, who knows. They look cool regardless of whoever they are.

[HooyahCQB]

The more I look at 'em, the more I think they're SEALs. The boots, the rifles and gear, and look at the telescoping stock on the far left rifle- its a Magpul stock.

[EvanL]

Kiwi SAS?
Just a guess.

[squeak]

I highly doubt it is the group.

However to find an answer we must:

- Why aren't they wearing issue cams?
- Besides the fact they have M-4 have a look at the small gear on them, such as the helmets, webbing etc, if you are familiar with it, tell us.
- What units have comms on their heads? As fasr as I know no SAS unit carries these, however things may have changed in the last few years.

[ChuckThunder]

I highly doubt it is the group.

However to find an answer we must:

- Why aren't they wearing issue cams?
- Besides the fact they have M-4 have a look at the small gear on them, such as the helmets, webbing etc, if you are familiar with it, tell us.
- What units have comms on their heads? As fasr as I know no SAS unit carries these, however things may have changed in the last few years.

Now 'a days everyone gets those hi speed comms.

[Marmot1]

British Sas -No
Kivi Sas - No
Ausie Sas - No
Gues why I know...?

This car which they use has stering whell on the left so it cannot be british ausie or kivi since they have stering whels on right...

[Chet Mystery]

Guy on the right, has a USA Flag (Desert tan color, looks like the IR one BHI makes) on his right arm. So does second guy from the left. ;)

[Jean]

Definitely some US SOF. SF or SEALs.
They wear Eagle MLCS system that no other units are issued. Or it might be the BHI copy of MLCS called SRTIKE but still they would be most likely NAVY guys.
SF wouldn´t be shaved so well :o)

[hihihi_ch]

You're all wrong... they are Swiss SAS :P :P nobody know that they exists, and nobody knows that they are in 'stan :lol: , lol, just a joke ;)

actually they look really cool!

[He219]

British Sas -No
Kivi Sas - No
Ausie Sas - No
Gues why I know...?

This car which they use has stering whell on the left so it cannot be british ausie or kivi since they have stering whels on right...

Weren't you the one that 'flipped' the gun picture around on Friday??
;)

Very interesting picture. I have never heard of desert Tigerstripe camo ....

[Wilco]

http://www.tigerstripeproducts.com/sys-tmpl/deserttigerphotos/ Hrm, check this link out, given to me by a friend.

[Argyll]

Saloman GTX Mids,and Strike chest gear.........cool ****.........I'll need to keep my eyes peeled soon ...........see if it's worn in the Box too

I'm wondering if this Cammo is to make the US SOF less conspicious to the eye,as someone said earlier looks quite like UK Desert DPM from a distance?

[Steve Andrews]

The vehicle in the background looks American.

[ßå$tĮТHÏ¿ð]

Americans do use the desert tigerstripe on rare occasions. Usually only issued to special forces (i know seals for sure but they may also issue it to other units), it was used during the first gulf war and from what I have heard in Afghanistan.


I'm wondering if this Cammo is to make the US SOF less conspicious to the eye,as someone said earlier looks quite like UK Desert DPM from a distance?

The striping on tigerstripe tricks the eye. If they were standing away from the vehicle or laying down they are almost impossible to see. My guess is these guys were probably in Afghanistan, and most likely they didnt want to "look" like US soldiers.

Someone asked awhile back if any nation still used tigerstripe, yes there are a few still, the pattern is usually mostly issued to special forces majority of the time.

Theres many different variations of the pattern, and those variations are used all over the world. Russian version Kamysh and Tiger, French Lizard Flauge, I know the Tamil Tigers have there own version of tigerstripe. Brazil has a tiger-like pattern if I remeber correctly also.

[fokket]

No, SEALs aren't the only folks who's got MLCS..
However, they have LOTS of them.

[Undo]

Americans do use the desert tigerstripe on rare occasions. Usually only issued to special forces (i know seals for sure but they may also issue it to other units), it was used during the first gulf war and from what I have heard in Afghanistan.


I'm wondering if this Cammo is to make the US SOF less conspicious to the eye,as someone said earlier looks quite like UK Desert DPM from a distance?

The striping on tigerstripe tricks the eye. If they were standing away from the vehicle or laying down they are almost impossible to see. My guess is these guys were probably in Afghanistan, and most likely they didnt want to "look" like US soldiers.

Someone asked awhile back if any nation still used tigerstripe, yes there are a few still, the pattern is usually mostly issued to special forces majority of the time.

Theres many different variations of the pattern, and those variations are used all over the world. Russian version Kamysh and Tiger, French Lizard Flauge, I know the Tamil Tigers have there own version of tigerstripe. Brazil has a tiger-like pattern if I remeber correctly also.

Actually, I heard that the USMC evaluated tigerstripe before MARPAT, and determined that it (tigerstripe) was the most effective camouflage pattern, but chose MARPAT for some reason I can't recall. Anyone else hear this?

[Marmot1]

Americans do use the desert tigerstripe on rare occasions. Usually only issued to special forces (i know seals for sure but they may also issue it to other units), it was used during the first gulf war and from what I have heard in Afghanistan.


I'm wondering if this Cammo is to make the US SOF less conspicious to the eye,as someone said earlier looks quite like UK Desert DPM from a distance?

The striping on tigerstripe tricks the eye. If they were standing away from the vehicle or laying down they are almost impossible to see. My guess is these guys were probably in Afghanistan, and most likely they didnt want to "look" like US soldiers.

Someone asked awhile back if any nation still used tigerstripe, yes there are a few still, the pattern is usually mostly issued to special forces majority of the time.

Theres many different variations of the pattern, and those variations are used all over the world. Russian version Kamysh and Tiger, French Lizard Flauge, I know the Tamil Tigers have there own version of tigerstripe. Brazil has a tiger-like pattern if I remeber correctly also.

Actually, I heard that the USMC evaluated tigerstripe before MARPAT, and determined that it (tigerstripe) was the most effective camouflage pattern, but chose MARPAT for some reason I can't recall. Anyone else hear this?
Tamil Tigers group use tigerstripe (several photos were in pic of the day like a week ago)

[Navy]

This cammo is very beautiful, but the trials found the marpat "digital cammo" to be more effective when you are not on the move.

Tigerstripe came 2nd though...

[HELEX]

They do not look very much like Seals:

http://aku-aku.com/images/antarctic/AA_thumbs/aa061.jpg

[Lone Predator]

British Sas -No
Kivi Sas - No
Ausie Sas - No
Gues why I know...?

This car which they use has stering whell on the left so it cannot be british ausie or kivi since they have stering whels on right...

Aussie / Kiwis have land rovers with steering wheel on left. Its an operational thing.

[Lone Predator]

Those boots are the same type SASR use. Photo can't be more than 4 years old or so then.

Not Aussie though. the Aussies have for the most part better equipment than that.

Seems most likely it's an American government team. NSA, CIA... MIB
Geared for CQB.. all that.

Don't appear to be any sort of really top grade SF, for sure.

Very interesting stuff though.

[Some Guy]

Don't appear to be any sort of really top grade SF, for sure.



Lets play dream date here, tiger.. What should the "top grade SF" be wearing this season?

[MVSpartan117]

Don't appear to be any sort of really top grade SF, for sure.



Lets play dream date here, tiger.. What should the "top grade SF" be wearing this season?

Yeah, what the hell are you talking about? What do you consider top grade?

[NeedsABetterName]

These guys are from Army SF.Not Delta,just Special Forces("Green Berets").I remember seeing something about an ODA wearing Desert Tigerstripes,which by the way look really cool...Of course,they could be any American SF unit in Afghanistan,but I'm pretty sure theyre Army Special Forces.

[MVSpartan117]

These guys are from Army SF.Not Delta,just Special Forces("Green Berets").I remember seeing something about an ODA wearing Desert Tigerstripes,which by the way look really cool...Of course,they could be any American SF unit in Afghanistan,but I'm pretty sure theyre Army Special Forces.

We know they're not Delta............

[NeedsABetterName]

Well sorry,I was just clearing it up that they were probally Special Forces("Green Berets"),since the Army has two SF units,Delta and Special Forces...

And another thing,did you people flunk English?It would be they're,not there...

[MVSpartan117]

Fixed it for you ;)

Sorry, I didn't mean to come off harsh.

But were still not entirely sure that they're Americans.

[Chet Mystery]

Fixed it for you ;)

Sorry, I didn't mean to come off harsh.

But were still not entirely sure that they're Americans.

Read my last post mate, guy on far right and guy second from left have US flag patches on their right arm. They are the tan subdued type.

[MVSpartan117]

Aye aye cap'n!

[Lone Predator]

Don't appear to be any sort of really top grade SF, for sure.



Lets play dream date here, tiger.. What should the "top grade SF" be wearing this season?

Yeah, what the hell are you talking about? What do you consider top grade?

Their equipment isn't exactly what you would expect of say Delta or SAS. Thier equipment, while some of it rather new and expensive, for the most part isn't what you'd see the best of the best with.

There are unofficial 'levels' or tiers of SF afterall.

[DE_Six]

http://www.tigerstripeproducts.com/sys-tmpl/nss-folder/pictures/MILTiger2web.jpg

Them boots are not Salomon, they're Asolo. I think I have the same, I'll check out the model name. Good boots, Gore-tex, very light.

[ßå$tĮТHÏ¿ð]

This cammo is very beautiful
Yes it is, would die to get my paws on some also...


Actually, I heard that the USMC evaluated tigerstripe before MARPAT, and determined that it (tigerstripe) was the most effective camouflage pattern, but chose MARPAT for some reason I can't recall. Anyone else hear this

I dont recall hearing this, I remeber reading when they were in the original developing process they used the tigerstripped pattern with different colors as one of there test patterns.

If I remeber correctly the reason MARPAT was picked was that it was alot harder to see under night vision.

[pretorian669]

http://www.tigerstripeproducts.com/sys-tmpl/nss-folder/pictures/MILTiger2web.jpg

Them boots are not Salomon, they're Asolo. I think I have the same, I'll check out the model name. Good boots, Gore-tex, very light.
http://www.asolo.com/content.asp?L=3&idMen=187

http://www.mountainhideout.com/footwear/Other%20footwear/fusion95.htm
Asolo Fusion 95 GTX $150.00

1.6/1.8 mm water resistant suede-cordura
Gore-Tex inner lining
Board lasted on Asoflex '00 TOP 3 anatomic footbed
Asolo Fusion rubber/PU sole for great traction
Metal personalized speed lace
http://www.mountainhideout.com/images/footwear/Vasque/fusion95gtx.jpg

A good idea for wearing with any desert camo patern.

[mikec62001]

Very interesting picture....I wasn't aware that you could get "Desert Tiger Stripe DPM...That's what threw me when trying to work out what country they were from...THey look American to me...but the Landrover in the background may change that guess. I don't know if any of you guys have noticed by the third guy from the left is wearing a watch....it looks very much like a "Luminox SEAL Dive Watch" with the Yellow Face...I have heard all SEALs are issued with this watch which may seem to suggest that they are infact Navy SEALs in the picture. In my oppionion they are SEALs and I have spoken to Ex Marine Recon and he says there is no doubt that they are SEALs.

Some people have said they are Briitsh....Like someone said previously I've never seen British SAS wearing Tiger Stripe DPM before...they usually wear a cross mix of Civie and Plain combats or British Standard issue DPM. I'm sure they are US SEALs.

Great picture..thanks for sharing it

[Jean]

fokket: I konow that seals are not the only unit. Heard about SF get them and sometimes Force Recon has few of them.

[navylt]

The US Army has conducted trials on mew BDUs up in Natick, Massachusetts. Three finalists are all that are left. One, the Crye or"Scorpion" camouflage, can be seen at http://www.militarymorons.com. The other two are based on the venerable tiger stripe design. What you see in the picture is one of the two tiger stripe versions.

I knew this pattern would make it out to operators, since I too can use a google search engine. Look up the Natick future soldier program and find out more for yourselves.

[Argyll]

There's a large Hi res pics of some SEAL's at UmQuasr somewhere,some of these guys from the Tiger stripe pic look pretty similar to some of these guys......I have both open in Photoshop and there is a resemblance to one or 2 of the guys........ ;)

[FallenAngel]

Here's a cool pic for you. Perfect application of a sticker if you ask me ;)

http://www.lifelibertyetc.com/Images/Products/ptsf_30mm.jpg

[millhouse]

?huh

[Vintendo]

They are American. Army Rangers and some SF use Land Rovers, because they are narrow enough to fit into helicopters. Except they are called RSOVs, Ranger Special Operations Vehicle.
The desert tiger BDU is not standard issue but you can buy them in the US. I've seen them in a catalog before.

[Ngati Tumatauenga]

This car which they use has stering whell on the left so it cannot be british ausie or kivi since they have stering whels on right...


Aussie / Kiwis have land rovers with steering wheel on left. Its an operational thing.

rofl

[redhawk_six]

Don't appear to be any sort of really top grade SF, for sure.



Lets play dream date here, tiger.. What should the "top grade SF" be wearing this season?

Yeah, what the hell are you talking about? What do you consider top grade?

Their equipment isn't exactly what you would expect of say Delta or SAS. Thier equipment, while some of it rather new and expensive, for the most part isn't what you'd see the best of the best with.

There are unofficial 'levels' or tiers of SF afterall.

That's where you're wrong. Take it from a geardo, their gear is top of the line, some of the best stuff out there. It appears to be either the BHI STRIKE or the Eagle equivilant to STRIKE. STRIKE and it's eagle counter-part is really right up there with other systems like SPEAR. It's great gear, perfect for any special ops member. It's modular, and can take a number of diffrent types of modular pouches from MOLLE, to ALICE, to MALICE, and so on. It allows the Op. to customize his rig to suit the needs of each indivdual mission. Trust me, this is the type of gear that groups like Delta and the SAS would use, if the SAS widely used north american gear that is. Trust me, this is what the best of the best wear.

Also, I've seen US army SF wearing surplus cloth soviet chest rigs in a-stan even. There's no guidelines on what gear they use, just because their gear doesn't look top of the line doesn't mean their not SF.

By the way, the comms, that's the TASC-II Tactical Headset, standard issue amoung US Special Operations.

These guys are deffinatly American, they have the RAID mods to the BDUs, the Eagle/BHI gear, US flags, Armalites with US modifications and desert camo paint, and the US SF standard issue radio headset. Most likely seals judging by the way their armed and their gear. All of them seem to be wearing similar rigs. If they were Army SF, each of them would probably have diffrent rigs. And US SF do use land rovers, quite often too.

[Ratamacue]

The US Army has conducted trials on mew BDUs up in Natick, Massachusetts. Three finalists are all that are left. One, the Crye or"Scorpion" camouflage, can be seen at http://www.militarymorons.com. The other two are based on the venerable tiger stripe design. What you see in the picture is one of the two tiger stripe versions.

I knew this pattern would make it out to operators, since I too can use a google search engine. Look up the Natick future soldier program and find out more for yourselves.

That Scorpion pattern actually looks pretty good, kind of reminds me of a mix between a blotchy pattern like the current one and a dot pattern like MARPAT or Flecktarn.

[Jester23]

Argyll -
Can you post that other SEAL pic you referenced?

Thanks!

[fokket]

That's where you're wrong. Take it from a geardo, their gear is top of the line, some of the best stuff out there. It appears to be either the BHI STRIKE or the Eagle equivilant to STRIKE. STRIKE and it's eagle counter-part is really right up there with other systems like SPEAR. It's great gear, perfect for any special ops member. It's modular, and can take a number of diffrent types of modular pouches from MOLLE, to ALICE, to MALICE, and so on. It allows the Op. to customize his rig to suit the needs of each indivdual mission. Trust me, this is the type of gear that groups like Delta and the SAS would use, if the SAS widely used north american gear that is. Trust me, this is what the best of the best wear.
.

Wrong, STRIKE is BHI copy of Eagle MLCS.

[MK133]

More Asolo's

http://jccc.afis.osd.mil/LBOX/full/970947.jpg