Soviet airfoil boat

[Nikolas]

type 903

http://pupils.rl.kiev.ua/2004/kalnitsky/ek_Al_lun/lun_1.jpg

http://pupils.rl.kiev.ua/2004/kalnitsky/ek_Al_lun/lun-1-s.jpg

http://pupils.rl.kiev.ua/2004/kalnitsky/ek_Al_lun/lun_2.jpg

type 904

http://pupils.rl.kiev.ua/2004/kalnitsky/ek_Al_orlenok/orlenok5.jpg

http://avia.russian.ee/air/ekranoplanes/orlenok_2.jpg

http://avia.russian.ee/air/ekranoplanes/orlenok_1.jpg

KM-1

http://pupils.rl.kiev.ua/2004/kalnitsky/ek_Al_Km-1/km-1_2.jpg

http://pupils.rl.kiev.ua/2004/kalnitsky/ek_Al_Km-1/km-1.gif

http://avia.russian.ee/air/ekranoplanes/km-1_1.jpg

[Marmot1]

Now That is SOMETHING any info about top speed? Was it used widelly or it is only prototype?

[MVSpartan117]

I've always been a fan of the Soviet airfoils!

[Backis]

These types are more commonly known as WiG (Wing in Ground effect). Russians call them ekranoplan.

Read about them here;
http://www.se-technology.com/wig/index.php

[elguapo]

http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/systems/aircraft/ultra.htm


The Pelican Ultra Large Transport Aircraft [ULTRA] would be the biggest bird in the history of aviation. Dwarfing all previous flying giants, the Pelican, a high-capacity cargo plane concept currently being studied by Boeing Phantom Works, would stretch more than the length of a U.S. football field and have a wingspan of 500 feet and a wing area of more than an acre. It would have almost twice the external dimensions of the world's current largest aircraft, the Russian An225, and could transport five times its payload, up to 1,400 tons of cargo.

When could the Pelican be flying? The answer may lie in the Army's Advanced Mobility Concepts Study, scheduled for release in April 2003. The Pelican has been offered by Boeing as part of a system-of-systems solution that would include the C-17 Globemaster III transport, the CH-47 Chinook helicopter and the Advanced Theater Transport. A favorable report would set the stage for a possible codevelopment effort between Boeing, the US military and interested commercial cargo carriers.

Designed primarily for long-range, transoceanic transport, the Pelican would fly as low as 20 feet above the sea, taking advantage of an aerodynamic phenomenon that reduces drag and fuel burn. Over land, it would fly at altitudes of 20,000 feet or higher. Operating only from ordinary paved runways, the Pelican would use 38 fuselage-mounted landing gears with a total of 76 tires to distribute its weight.

The Pelican currently stands as the only identified means by which the US Army can achieve its deployment transformation goals of deploying one division in five days, or five divisions in 30 days, anywhere in the world. If necessary, he said, the Pelican could carry 17 M-1 main battle tanks on a single sortie. Commercially, the aircraft's size and efficiency would allow it to carry types of cargo equivalent to those carried by container ships, at more than 10 times the speed.

The Pelican can broaden the range of missions for which airplanes are the favored way to deliver cargo. It is much faster than ships at a fraction of the operational cost of current airplanes. This will be attractive to commercial and military operators who desire speed, worldwide range and high throughput. The Pelican can multiply aircraft's 1-percent share in a commercial market now dominated by container ships.

It is attracting interest as a mother ship for unmanned vehicles, enabling rapid deployment of a network-centric warfare grid, a likely future mode of operation for modernized U.S. forces as demonstrated in Afghanistan. And it is attracting interest as a potential first-stage platform for piggybacking reusable space vehicles to an appropriate launch altitude.

By flying low, the Pelican, like its name-sake, exploits the aerodynamic benefits of a well-known phenomenon called ground effect. Flying close to water, the wing downwash angle and tip vortices are suppressed, resulting in a major drag reduction and outstanding cruise efficiency. It's an effect that provides extraordinary range and efficiency. With a payload of 1.5 million pounds, the Pelican could fly 10,000 nautical miles over water and 6,500 nautical miles over land.

Flying in ground effect demands the latest flight control technology. Reliable systems will provide precise, automatic altitude control and collision avoidance. Cruise altitude will be adjusted according to sea state, and if the seas get too rough, the Pelican can easily climb to high altitude to continue the flight.

http://www.sistemasdearmas.hpg.ig.com.br/notpelican1.jpg

http://www.sistemasdearmas.hpg.ig.com.br/notpelican2.jpg

[Backis]

Talk about imminent obsolescence for the Stryker brigades. That thing could move tanks to theatre as fast if not faster than C130's could shuttle in Strykers. :)

A wee bit vulnerable though, one SA-7, and there goes a batallion... :cantbeli: :oops:

[SR15]

everything that big not going end up good.

[Marmot1]

And what will happen with Pelican if there are i.e. 40ft high wawes which is preety common on atlantic or pacific...

[MVSpartan117]

And what will happen with Pelican if there are i.e. 40ft high wawes which is preety common on atlantic or pacific...

Could it fly over them?

[RuSoKaR]

http://www.redstar.ru/2002/09/27_09/22.jpg

In the Russian military woot

maximum speed 400km/hr, waves should be not bigger then 2 m.

link for the whole article.
http://www.redstar.ru/2002/09/27_09/2_01.html

[thatguy96]

Talk about imminent obsolescence for the Stryker brigades. That thing could move tanks to theatre as fast if not faster than C130's could shuttle in Strykers.
Except the Stryker can be deployed pretty much from a C-130, without the massive logistical base nessecary for the M2/3 Bradley or the M1A1/A1HA/A2/A2SP Abrams. Rapid deployment is only partly about doing it physically, and then there's a large part of making sure the vehicles can operate for more than a day.

The Russian Ekranoplan experiments were designed both as transports and as a missile boat of sorts, for a nuclear strike. Their speed was to allow them to get close to their target before the enemy could respond, and use much shorter range missles for effect...more cost effective in some minds to putting more money toward ICBMs.

[elguapo]

And what will happen with Pelican if there are i.e. 40ft high wawes which is preety common on atlantic or pacific...

Could it fly over them?

just read the text ;)


Over land, it would fly at altitudes of 20,000 feet or higher.

[MVSpartan117]

*hits head*

Stupid! Stupid! Stupid! Stupid!

[Marmot1]

And what will happen with Pelican if there are i.e. 40ft high wawes which is preety common on atlantic or pacific...

Could it fly over them?

just read the text ;)


Over land, it would fly at altitudes of 20,000 feet or higher.
yes but over water it fly 20ft over surface I wonder how still must be water to archive that,knowing oceans it would be risky to fly such low since weather is fluctuating over there and closest weather station might be like 5000km away...

[Backis]

Except the Stryker can be deployed pretty much from a C-130, without the massive logistical base nessecary for the M2/3 Bradley or the M1A1/A1HA/A2/A2SP Abrams. Rapid deployment is only partly about doing it physically, and then there's a large part of making sure the vehicles can operate for more than a day.

The Russian Ekranoplan experiments were designed both as transports and as a missile boat of sorts, for a nuclear strike. Their speed was to allow them to get close to their target before the enemy could respond, and use much shorter range missles for effect...more cost effective in some minds to putting more money toward ICBMs.

#1 The Stryker ain't half as airmobile as it was intended to be. The MGS must be disassembled before fitting it in, even if the C130 could carry the weight, wich it has problems with...

#2 That huge bastard could start flying in supplies while the C130 (who can carry how many Strykers? Oh yes, ONE!) are still shuttling in the main force...

The thing that talks against these behemoths are... well.. they're behemoths... and probably carry a price tag just as huge... they will most likely cost to much to risk flying in a hot zone, nevermind the cost of losing the massive cargo in a giant fireball...

[Maj C]

Another possible solution to heavy lift requirements are Hybrid Airships - Hybrid Ultra Large Aircraft (HULA). Aerocat is a company trying to sell the Navy a prototype for testing. Here's another article...



http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/systems/aircraft/images/skycat_200_mil_01.jpg

http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/systems/aircraft/skycat.htm

[Lysander]

The KM-1 was this also known as the "Caspian Sea Monster"?

[gaz]

The Caspian Sea Monster - http://freespace.virgin.net/home.taylor/videos/km4.mpg

[Nikolas]

http://jpcolliat.free.fr/ekra/images/km.jpg

http://jpcolliat.free.fr/ekra/images/km2.gif

http://jpcolliat.free.fr/ekra/images/km3.jpg

http://jpcolliat.free.fr/ekra/images/km4.jpg

http://jpcolliat.free.fr/ekra/images/km5.jpg

http://jpcolliat.free.fr/ekra/images/lun1.jpg

http://jpcolliat.free.fr/ekra/images/lun2.jpg

http://jpcolliat.free.fr/ekra/images/lun3.jpg

http://jpcolliat.free.fr/ekra/images/lun5.jpg

http://jpcolliat.free.fr/ekra/images/orlenok.jpg

http://jpcolliat.free.fr/ekra/images/orlenok1.jpg

http://jpcolliat.free.fr/ekra/images/orlenok10.jpg

http://jpcolliat.free.fr/ekra/images/orlenok11.jpg

http://jpcolliat.free.fr/ekra/images/orlenok12.jpg

http://jpcolliat.free.fr/ekra/images/orlenok13.jpg

http://jpcolliat.free.fr/ekra/images/orlenok14.jpg

http://jpcolliat.free.fr/ekra/images/orlenok15.jpg

http://jpcolliat.free.fr/ekra/images/orlenok2.jpg

http://jpcolliat.free.fr/ekra/images/orlenok3.jpg

http://jpcolliat.free.fr/ekra/images/orlenok4.jpg

http://jpcolliat.free.fr/ekra/images/orlenok5.jpg

http://jpcolliat.free.fr/ekra/images/orlenok6.jpg

http://jpcolliat.free.fr/ekra/images/orlenok7.jpg

http://jpcolliat.free.fr/ekra/images/orlenok8.jpg

http://jpcolliat.free.fr/ekra/images/spasatel.jpg

http://jpcolliat.free.fr/ekra/images/spasatel_3.jpg

http://jpcolliat.free.fr/ekra/images/spasatel_4.jpg

http://jpcolliat.free.fr/ekra/images/spasatel_5.jpg
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[MVSpartan117]

http://jpcolliat.free.fr/ekra/images/lun3.jpg

I'm in love.........

[cut]

thunderbirds are go!

[GazB]

If you look at the drawing above just below the front missile launchers there is a small position that looks like it is for a tail gunner. Below that in a ball turret is where one air defence 6 barrel 30mm gatling gun is... The other gun is in the normal tail gun position.

The Missiles are Moskits... ie SS-N-22 Sunburns and the aircraft is called Lun and is for export if you want one.

[Lysander]

On the ekranoplane that is driven by propellers, what are the two large "openings" on the front of it?

[Backis]

On the ekranoplane that is driven by propellers, what are the two large "openings" on the front of it?

Evacuation chutes for suicidal Spetznaz! ;)

Engine nozzles. Jets blowing air under the wings/fuselage to help it get airborne.

[Lysander]

On the ekranoplane that is driven by propellers, what are the two large "openings" on the front of it?

Evacuation chutes for suicidal Spetznaz! ;)

Engine nozzles. Jets blowing air under the wings/fuselage to help it get airborne.

How many engines does this aircraft have? It has propeller engines and jet engines also?

[Backis]

The jet engines (two I think) are only auxiliary. Used to get out of the water. It then gets along with the turboprop alone.