'I'LL KILL YOU ALL' - Man Plows Car Into Bar

[BlackRain]

DRUNKEN RICH TEEN PLOWS JAG INTO CLUB PATRONS: COPS


June 20, 2006 -- A boozed-up rich kid tossed from a tony Long Island bar jumped behind the wheel of his Jaguar and sneered, "I'll kill you all," before plowing into a crowd of horrified bystanders, critically injuring two, police said yesterday.


"He just tore around the corner and came right at the crowd - bodies were flying everywhere," said Matthew Hurwitz, 22, of Glen Cove, who was clipped by the car in a coldblooded replay of an infamous rampage involving pedal-pushing publicist Lizzie Grubman. "It was like a movie, but the people didn't get up afterwards. There were people lying all over the place, laying in blood. It was awful."

The carnage erupted early Sunday morning outside the Soundview Bar at Glen Cove's town golf course, where soused suspect Sayed Khaled El-Waraky, 19, of posh Vienna, Va., had been rowdily celebrating a fellow wealthy frat brother's birthday, cops and witnesses said.

"He [El-Waraky] was acting really drunk . . . bumping into other people, being abrasive and causing trouble with the staff," said Glen Cove Detective Sgt. Thomas Fitzpatrick. Then "he pushed a girl, and that was enough."

Bouncer Sean Basdavanos, 22, hauled the troublemaker outside, followed by a crowd of people eager to see him booted, witnesses said.

As they got up to his black 2005 Jaguar S-Type - his high-school graduation gift - a brawl ensued, police said.

An incensed El-Waraky, a part-time student at American University in Washington, D.C., finally got behind the wheel of his flashy car with chrome wheels and started to head toward the exit as about three dozen people watched, cops said.



"Just when everyone thought it was over, the car came speeding [back] around the corner, the pedal to the floor, and he just mowed them all down," Fitzpatrick said.

The underage perp fled, his car windshield and hood bashed in. But he was nabbed a few minutes later.

El-Waraky, an Egyptian national, faces charges including depraved indifference for human life. He could land 25 years to life if convicted. He was being held without bail yesterday.

Hurwitz's buddy, Basdavanos, a former Glen Cove HS football star, was left critically wounded in the horror.

He was on a respirator at North Shore University Hospital, where his mom, Maureen, said he was "in pretty bad shape, but he's getting better."

Also critically hurt in the horror was Matthew Granger, 23, of Water Mill. He suffered multiple skull fractures, authorities said.

El-Waraky's lawyer, Ryan Brownyard, said his client had one prior arrest, for DWI, in 2003 in D.C. He claimed outside court that his client was a victim.

"My client sustained serious injuries after being attacked by a mob of people," Brownyard said.
El-Waraky's father, reached at a multimillion-dollar family home in Vienna, Va., said he had "no idea what happened."

http://www.nypost.com/news/regionalnews/ill_kill_you_all_regionalnews_geoff_earle__kieran_crowley_and_devin_smith.htm

[Macs.]

What kind of journalist writes such a article ? Sound like a total yellow-press paper.

[BusterHyman]

The kid sounds like hes alqaeda.

[moughoun]

What kind of journalist writes such a article ? Sound like a total yellow-press paper.
it's the NYpost, it's like the Sun in the UK, ie ****e......hand's up who can guess the reason BR posted this up?p-)

[moughoun]

The kid sounds like hes alqaeda. we have nothing to fear then, he's incompentent

[Asheren]

it's the NYpost, it's like the Sun in the UK, ie ****e......hand's up who can guess the reason BR posted this up?p-)

Zee muslims are comming?

[a_very_ex_STAB]

it's the NYpost, it's like the Sun in the UK, ie ****e......hand's up who can guess the reason BR posted this up?p-)

The perp worked for Airbus?

[Vandervahn]

Guns dont kill people, people kill people?

[Firetxmi]

Liberal media bias? ;)

[Laworkerbee]

The perp worked for Airbus?

rofl Oh man that went well with my morning coffee that and the Zee Mulims comment from Asheren

thanks for the laughs gents

[Bacilluspolymyxa]

Arab terror spreads to L.I:roll:

My mate stays in Glen Cove, I must get the skinny on this one.

[remo williams]

Sounds like another "I'm really rich and I can do what ever I want and think I'll get away with it. Now watch me run you over." Should have gotten him a jetta as they have the lowest ego emmissions..

[WarriorMonk]

dude moughoun your avatar is frikkin scary...

[ArmedPacifist]

Ya know Blackrain, for someone constantly screaming about a liberal media conpiracy to give one sided news, you sure do post a lot of anti-Arab articles.

[Namistai]

I'm suprised we even heard about this. Look at the guy at some other university who drove through his campus' quad trying to kill Americans. He was doing Allah's bidding he said. It was on the news wires for two minutes, then the story died.

[BlackRain]

Ya know Blackrain, for someone constantly screaming about a liberal media conpiracy to give one sided news, you sure do post a lot of anti-Arab articles.

How is this an anti-Arab article? That is your bias.

I don't know about you where you live but crimes like this don't happen very often. You make it seem that this is a ho-hum type of ordinary crime.

Oh, and you sure post alot of anti-American posts.


I'm suprised we even heard about this. Look at the guy at some other university who drove through his campus' quad trying to kill Americans. He was doing Allah's bidding he said. It was on the news wires for two minutes, then the story died.

ArmedPacifist gave you your answer. It is not politically correct to post news items where the offender is 'Arab' (as the term ArmedPacifist uses).

[ArmedPacifist]

How is this an anti-Arab article? That is your bias.

I don't know about you where you live but crimes like this don't happen very often. You make it seem that this is a ho-hum type of ordinary crime.

Oh, and you sure post alot of anti-American posts.




ArmedPacifist gave you your answer. It is not politically correct to post news items where the offender is 'Arab' (as the term ArmedPacifist uses).


Yes, Arab is my own personal word invention, I think I might trademark it.

As for telling me I'm anti-American, I happen to like America and I'm assuming that was just another of your neo-con jedi tricks to confuse me, well it's worked.

I'm not the only one in this thread to point out that you have a habit of posting articles the way you do.

In fact, several forums posters have made a joke about it on the front page.

[Namistai]

Something that gets to me about Liberal media is that they complain about Talk Radio. They want it more Liberal or shut down completly. but they don't say nothing about Democracy Now! or Air America. Not to mention all NY Times and CBS cronies.

[Firetxmi]

Blackrain, just because someone disagrees with you does not mean they are biased. It means they have a pulse and an opinion. For that matter, just because someone disagrees with things the U.S. does does not mean they are Anti-American.

[Firetxmi]

Something that gets to me about Liberal media is that they complain about Talk Radio. They want it more Liberal or shut down completly. but they don't say nothing about Democracy Now! or Air America. Not to mention all NY Times and CBS cronies.

Nah, unlike some people, I am ok with people having differing opinions. But if you believe the sky is falling, who am I to tell you its not?

[One]

So if it wasn't a rich arab kid driving the jaguar would you have posted it in the the "Political Section"?

Please take your arab hating news and shove it. People like you are what make arabs hate westerners. Those who pick at everything just because they are of a certain ethnicity. I bet if he was british it would of been funny and the video posted on youtube.

Oh sorry armedpacifist I will pay you proprietary fees for using the term arab. How much are you charging?

[Firetxmi]

Yes, Arab is my own personal word invention, I think I might trademark it.


Do I have to pay back royalties for all the times I have used it in my life up until now?

[BlackRain]

Please take your arab hating news and shove it. People like you are what make arabs hate westerners.

I am sorry but I don't follow your logic.

Posting a story about a man screaming "I will Kill you all" and driving his car over innocent people makes arabs hate westerners more?

Should we self-censor ourselves so you will like us more?

Please explain.

[HOLLiS]

Ya know Blackrain, for someone constantly screaming about a liberal media conpiracy to give one sided news, you sure do post a lot of anti-Arab articles.

This article is about a Egyptian, Now are Egyptians Arabs? maybe, maybe not, maybe a coptic, maybe a muslims, maybe Just plain nuts, or?.


OR maybe I miss read the article and they said he was a Arab.

[BlackRain]

This article is about a Egyptian, Now are Egyptians Arabs? maybe, maybe not, maybe a coptic, maybe a muslims, maybe Just plain nuts, or?.


OR maybe I miss read the article and they said he was a Arab.

Don't bother. They missed the point. No where in the article did it say Arab. Hence my comment to ArmedPacifist about his bias and he like the other's did not even notice.

[HOLLiS]

Don't bother. They missed the point. No where in the article did it say Arab. Hence my comment to ArmedPacifist about his bias and he like the other's did not even notice.

yah, I thought it was about some spoiled Frat kid,

"Sayed Khaled El-Waraky, 19, of posh Vienna, Va., had been rowdily celebrating a fellow wealthy frat brother's birthday, cops and witnesses said."

I guess they see what they Have to see.

[Macs.]

Please take your arab hating news and shove it. People like you are what make arabs hate westerners.

New Rule: Don't post any news articles which show arabs/muslims in a bad light, because it is "arab hating".


And if that is "what makes arabs hat westerners" then I doesn't make me wonder...

[One]

Ya please convince me that egypt is not an arab country. Please show us all how ignorant you two are. Come on we are all waiting.

You only posted the article because he was egyptian screaming I will kill you. No other reason! Otherwise you would have posted it in the off topic section. So don't play the "thats not what i meant" card.

They hate westerners because of people like you. People who make a big deal out of nothing. People making news about a rich kid screaming stuff while being drunk.

If the kid was a jew, european, american would it have become news? It will be another "violent drunk kid", and if he's lucky he will making the local newspaper. How many on this forum start fights, or get violent when they get drunk?


@Macs: If I post an article about an israeli i automatically become an anti-semite. So yes posting news about arabs to make them look bad is anti-arab and arab haters. Nowhere did I say muslim. Go down to the arab world and meet some arab christians.

[ArmedPacifist]

This article is about a Egyptian, Now are Egyptians Arabs? maybe, maybe not,


Are you ****ing serious? Are you actually asking if members of the "Arab Republic of Egypt" (formerly the United Arab Republic), are Arabs?

New Rule: Don't post any news articles which show arabs/muslims in a bad light, because it is "arab hating".


And if that is "what makes arabs hat westerners" then I doesn't make me wonder...

Come on, he's getting as bad as Geezah is with his constant gun control threads.

[Macs.]

You only posted the article because he was egyptian screaming I will kill you. No other reason!

Like it or not, people can post links to whatever articles they like.

The fact stands that this "incident" happened, so what ? Why do you argue at all ?


@Macs: If I post an article about an israeli i automatically become an anti-semite.

If you posted the same article with Israeli instead of a Egyptian I am 100% no one would have called you a anti-semit.

[HOLLiS]

Are you ****ing serious? Are you actually asking if members of the "Arab Republic of Egypt" (formerly the United Arab Republic), are Arabs?



Come on, he's getting as bad as Geezah is with his constant gun control threads.

AP, are ****ing Nuts, I know COPTICs from and live in Egypt, they are not Arabs and if you call them one, well let say call a Persian a Arab you get same results.

Maybe you need to clear your eyesight and check your own bigotry at the door. Same with Lebanon tell a Phonecian(SP) that they are Arabs.

BTW read the stupid article, S L O W L Y for comprehension. It is about a Rich frat boy. DRINKING for Muslim is HARAM (BIG NO NO). Where is Ayura when you need him.

[Laworkerbee]

Hey now lets leave good Ole Geezah out of this....

[One]

Like it or not, people can post links to whatever articles they like.

The fact stands that this "incident" happened, so what ? Why do you argue at all ?




If you posted the same article with Israeli instead of a Egyptian I am 100% no one would have called you a anti-semit.

Well if you read what I said you will know what I'm arguing. It wouldn't have made the news if he wasnt arab and. I don't think I can simplify it anymore. I didn't say no one can post links. I just he can shove the story. Do you see me lobbying mods or starting fights. But apprently you can't accept the fact that someone is going against your ideas and beliefs.

If I post an article about an israeli you will have S'13 and his gang raid it within seconds. Search for the IDF gaza shelling article and see how many times i was called out for being an "israeli hater".




Maybe you need to clear your eyesight and check your own bigotry at the door. Same with Lebanon tell a Phonecian(SP) that they are Arabs



hahahahaahah ahahhaahahaha hahahahahaha ahaahahahahaha hahahahahaha funniest **** ever. Hey all im phoenician please respect me!

Coptics are arabs and lebanese are arabs. Chritian or muslim they are arabs. Go down to egypt and ask them. And if you want come to lebanon. Or look up the constitution of both countries and read the article that says they are arab. Or better yet google the arab league website and check for the arab countries.

[Macs.]

Hey now lets leave good Ole Geezah out of this....

He won't look into this thread anyway, it doesn't trigger his search terms. p-)

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[Macs.]

It wouldn't have made the news if he wasnt arab and.

I am no clairvoyant, so I can't tell you.

But for example that crazy old guy who drove into a crowd in the US (I think he had health problems.) some months ago - It made it into the news, and this guy wasn't arab/muslim/israeli...

But apprently you can't accept the fact that someone is going against your ideas and beliefs.

Thats kind of ironic, coming from you.

If I post an article about an israeli you will have S'13 and his gang raid it within seconds. Search for the IDF gaza shelling article and see how many times i was called out for being an "israeli hater".

Don't you think that is a whole other story, far more complex etc ?

[ArmedPacifist]

Coptic is a religion, not an ethnicity...

This man is Arab but he might not be a muslim, it doesn't make a difference.

[HOLLiS]

Well if you read what I said you will know what I'm arguing. It wouldn't have made the news if he wasnt arab and. .

Ok, rich frat kids always make the news. Maybe you missed the Hazing News, Frats misconduct makes the news in the US.


How do you know he is a Arab?............. what about Coptics? That is like saying all Canadians are French, or English, what about First People.. Call a French Canadian a BCer, and what will they say to you, or vica versa?

[Macs.]

Ok, rich frat kids always make the news. Maybe you missed the Hazing News, Frats misconduct makes the news in the US.

Yeah, I also thought the "boozed-up rich kid"-part was far more highlighted than he is arab/muslim/whatever.

[HOLLiS]

Coptic is a religion, not an ethnicity...

This man is Arab but he might not be a muslim, it doesn't make a difference.

Why don't you ask a Coptic Egyptian that, and then tell him/her they are a ARAB. DO YOU KNOW any Coptic Egyptians? BTW GOOGLE Coptic and see where they are mostly located

HINT: The word Copt is derived from the Greek word Aigyptos, which was, in turn, derived from "Hikaptah", one of the names for Memphis, the first capital of Ancient Egypt (http://www.coptic.net/pictures/Site.PyramidsOfGiza.jpg) They Call themselves Egyptians, and were and are now being persecuted by Arab Muslims in Egypt.

[ArmedPacifist]

Ok, rich frat kids always make the news. Maybe you missed the Hazing News, Frats misconduct makes the news in the US.


But I've never seen them make it into the Political Discussions section ever before.


How do you know he is a Arab?............. what about Coptics? That is like saying all Canadians are French, or English, what about First People.. Call a French Canadian a BCer, and what will they say to you, or vica versa?

AGIAN, Coptic is a religion not an Ethnicity. Not all Canadian's speak French and English, I've met many Canadian citizens that don't speak either language, but they are Canadians. Although the Natives are exempt from taxes here in Canada, the natives are American and Canadian citizens.


Why don't you ask a Coptic Egyptian that, and then tell him/her they are a ARAB. DO YOU KNOW any Coptic Egyptians? BTW GOOGLE Coptic and see where they are mostly located


I don't know any personally, but if I did, I would tell them that they ARE Arab, because on a cultural and even GENETIC level, the Coptics joined the Arab tribes and adopted Arab culture.

Do the coptics have their own areas or houses? Their own parliament or government?

[HOLLiS]

But I've never seen them make it into the Political Discussions section ever before.


(Dang server ate my original message). I did not post it, ask blackrain, But in the states rich and famous always makes the news. Drunken idiots are everywhere, a drunken idiot RICH FAT kid that is news. Same reason them make TV shows about Beverly Hills, and the RICH (<-- Hint) and famous.

[ArmedPacifist]

AGIAN, Coptic is a religion not an Ethnicity. Not all Canadian's speak French and English, I've met many Canadian citizens that don't speak either language, but they are Canadians. Although the Natives are exempt from taxes here in Canada, the natives are American and Canadian citizens.

Umm...that's my post.

[One]

Ok, rich frat kids always make the news. Maybe you missed the Hazing News, Frats misconduct makes the news in the US.


How do you know he is a Arab?............. what about Coptics? That is like saying all Canadians are French, or English, what about First People.. Call a French Canadian a BCer, and what will they say to you, or vica versa?

@Macs: I have no problem with other people's opinions but not when they are hateful. Are you telling me that some people don't get violent when drunk? And thats not the reason why we are arguing. But blackrain posted the article here because he was trying to say that arabs want to kill. Thats his whole reason. Otherwise like you and Hollis said this site should be covered with rich drunk kid stories.

I know alot of coptics, in fact I live in the largest concentration of coptics outside egypt, or maybe second largest after the US. Some say they are arab some don't. They think that arabs are muslims but thats up to them. You dont see them talking in greek or writing in hylogriphics (sp) they speak and write arabic and live the arab culture.

Do you say you're a viking? Or that you are roman, spartan ? etc...The civilization no longer exists and its part of a new civilization now.

[HOLLiS]

Umm...that's my post.

sorry the server is messing up with me, I had a server is too busy message.

[Macs.]

@Macs: I have no problem with other people's opinions but not when they are hateful.

What is hateful ?

He posted the Article... No Comment from him, nothing, just a article.

But blackrain posted the article here because he was trying to say that arabs want to kill.

Sorry, I can't look into other peoples brain.

And even if it would be true it doesn't really matter, since he didn't make any comments, did he ?

You can't punish people for something YOU THINK that they are thinking.

[ArmedPacifist]

No problem, just confused me.

[Laworkerbee]

He won't look into this thread anyway, it doesn't trigger his search terms. p-)

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[One]

What is hateful ?

He posted the Article... No Comment from him, nothing, just a article.



Sorry, I can't look into other people brain.

And even if it would be true it doesn't really matter, since he didn't make any comments, did he ?

You can't punish people for something YOU THINK that they are thinking.

Do you see me with a silenced sig sauer looking for blackrain so I can hunt him down and punish him? We are arguing an opinion no need to punish anyone.

Blackrain's posts tend to be anti-arab most of the time. So thats where I got the idea that this particular article was anti-arab coming from him. I didn't read his mind but if x happens then y is the reason.

Blackrain has a history of posting anti-arab stuff
Blackrain finds an article about a rich kid who happens to be arab
Blackrain posts the article in the political section.

I concluded that since blackrain has a history of arab-hating the article was another attempt of his to spread his hateful message.

If I was wrong then I apologize and I apologize for insulting anyone. It is not my intention. I just want to argue the point.


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[HOLLiS]

one maybe take each post at Prima Faca value.

[Macs.]

Blackrain's posts tend to be anti-arab most of the time. So thats where I got the idea that this particular article was anti-arab coming from him. I didn't read his mind but if x happens then y is the reason.

Blackrain has a history of posting anti-arab stuff
Blackrain finds an article about a rich kid who happens to be arab
Blackrain posts the article in the political section.

Where do you get that this Article is Anti-Arab... Its simply stating the truth. And just because it shows a arab/muslim/whatever in a bad light doesn't mean it is anti-anything.

And I honestly never saw a thread von BlackRain which was "Anti-Arab"... Maybe he posts article which fit into a chertain cheme, but if those articles are just quoting the truth they are not Anti-Arab.

[One]

Where do you get that this Article is Anti-Arab... Its simply stating the truth. And just because it shows a arab/muslim/whatever in a bad light doesn't mean it is anti-anything.

And I honestly never saw a thread von BlackRain which was "Anti-Arab"... Maybe he posts article which fit into a chertain cheme, but if those articles are just quoting the truth they are not Anti-Arab.

Posting an article to make a point. Thats the problem!

[Macs.]

Posting an article to make a point. Thats the problem!

So, let me get it straight:

We are not allowed to post anymore articles which show a Arab/Muslim in a bad way because of the possibility that the Author is a racist ?

Even through he didn't comment the action in any way, just posting and article from a news source ?

[One]

So, let me get it straight:

We are not allowed to post anymore articles which show a Arab/Muslim in a bad way because of the possibility that the Author is a racist ?

Even through he didn't comment the action in any way, just posting and article from a news source ?

Whose talking about the author? I'm talking about blackrain.

Lets take this example.

For a month I post articles everyday to show how israelis are murderers and savages.
On day 30 I post an article showing how a rich drunk jewish boy gets out of a car and yells i want to kill you all. Not in the off topic section, but in the political section.
What do you conclude?

You will most likely conclude that I hate jews and I'm posting articles just to prove that jews are bad.

end example

Thats what my point is. Him (blackrain) posting news to spread a certain message. Isn't that the reason why he was banned from this or another forum before?

You can post all the news you want, I'm not a mod and I have no authority to stop you, nor do I want to stop you. But if you post news to make a certain ethnicity or race look bad for the sake of making them look bad then yes I will argue you with you. It doesn't have to be arabs only.

[Firetxmi]

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[usa320]

The perp worked for Airbus?


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