Photos from military exercise in Sweden

[mustamato]

This years major exercise for the Swedish Defence Forces, basically the conscripts
final exercise. Those without snow is in southern Sweden, and those with snow is in
northern Sweden.

http://www.p7.mil.se/images/local/lavett97nr2.jpg
Rbs 97 (heavily modernized Hawk), and the Öresund bridge that
connects Sweden and Denmark

http://www.p7.mil.se/images/local/roinsatsledn.jpg
Inside the command vehicle for the Rbs 97

http://www.p7.mil.se/images/local/img_0305_webb.jpg

http://www.p7.mil.se/images/local/img_0184_webb.jpg
Malmö (Swedens third largest city) and its harbour area

http://www.p7.mil.se/images/local/img_0309_webb.jpg

http://www.p7.mil.se/images/local/nbc_10.jpg
NBC soldiers

http://www.p7.mil.se/images/local/ravamrj0318_vakt.jpg
EOD team

http://www.p7.mil.se/images/local/arthurgrupperadochklar.jpg
Arthur (artillery hunting radar)

http://www.p7.mil.se/images/local/artrrgrpchundergruppering.jpg
... and inside Arthur

http://www.p7.mil.se/images/local/rinkaby_hkpt_kalle16.jpg

http://www.p7.mil.se/images/local/dscf0015.jpg
Two ladies from the Homeguard and Swedish army inspector

http://www.p7.mil.se/images/local/rr1_framryckning2.jpg

http://www.p7.mil.se/images/local/rr5_sjuktransp.jpg

http://www.p7.mil.se/images/local/pejlgrupps1.jpg
A group of soldiers from a electronic warfare unit (note the thingie behind them)

[mustamato]

http://www.armen.mil.se/images/local/blodoga.jpg
Clear victim of Swedish dedovshina :lol:

http://www.armen.mil.se/images/local/stara_0316_strf90.jpg

http://www.armen.mil.se/images/local/stara_0316_dyk_upp.jpg

http://www.armen.mil.se/images/local/torn.jpg

http://www.k4.mil.se/images/local/rso04_pvrb_1.jpg

http://www.k4.mil.se/images/local/rso04_pvrb_3.jpg

http://www.k4.mil.se/images/local/rso04_utspis.jpg

http://www.armen.mil.se/images/local/ko.jpg

http://www.armen.mil.se/images/local/brotgb_dike_trafdir.jpg
Traffic soldier

http://www.armen.mil.se/images/local/psg90.jpg

http://www.armen.mil.se/images/local/genom_sikte.jpg

http://www.armen.mil.se/images/local/mp_eskort_kspeld.jpg

http://www.armen.mil.se/images/local/vevapa.jpg
Someone must do it

http://www.armen.mil.se/images/local/stara_0316_amroj_troppen.jpg
EOD-team posing

http://www.armen.mil.se/images/local/artmuller_svartmoln.jpg

http://www.armen.mil.se/images/local/artmuller_projektil.jpg

http://www.armen.mil.se/images/local/nordpil_vagbank_rokmoln.jpg
Destroying a road with 800 kg of explosives (doesn´t look very Hollywood).

[Hullebullen]

That's a lot of nice pics there. Where did you get them?

[kinghk]

CV90 without cannon? Command vehicle ?

[Falco]

Good pics woot

[Hullebullen]

Yes it is. Only armed with a MG...

[mustamato]

That's a lot of nice pics there. Where did you get them?

http://www.armen.mil.se

[MVSpartan117]

http://www.p7.mil.se/images/local/nbc_10.jpg

Good times........... :lol:

Great pics!

[khukuri]

No its not a command vehicle. Its an "pointing out enemy for artelllery" vehicle. Dunno what its called in english. Command vehicles are still pbv302. Thats gonna change soon.

[Hullebullen]

That's a lot of nice pics there. Where did you get them?

http://www.armen.mil.se


...funny, was just there reading up on the situation in Kosovo. Guess I must have missed the pics...

[Dalleer]

http://www.armen.mil.se/images/local/blodoga.jpg

Hmm, I wonder on what happened to this guy here? It does say "bloody eye" but is that truly something that happened or just something of a "make up effect" to raise the atmosphere?

http://www.p7.mil.se/images/local/pejlgrupps1.jpg

Is that a Ksp M/58 that guy on the left is holding?

[mustamato]

http://www.p7.mil.se/images/local/pejlgrupps1.jpg
Is that a Ksp M/58 that guy on the left is holding?

A Ksp 58b actually, the original 58´s introduced (well in 1958) was of the then
standard calibre in Sweden, 6.5 x 55 mm. In "combat squads" it´s being more
and more replaced by the Ksp 90 and Ksp 90b (Minimi, and Mimini Para). But the
58b will not in any way dissapear. The usage of it has changed over the years,
in the beginning there was this thing called "Ksp omgång", a specific MG squad
that had as their main role to suppress the enemy and give cover when the
others assaulted. Nowadays it seems to be used as kind of a SAW, the gunner
has it as a individual weapon, and then the other guys also carry ammo to him
in old gasmask bags.

The 58b´s will be modified to Ksp 58c, a Minimi Para-type of stock, a rail attached
to the cover, and hm what was it more? And oh yes of course, a Aimpoint on the rail.

[OnTheRocks]

http://www.p7.mil.se/images/local/lavett97nr2.jpg

I live 2 kilometers away from that bridge! woot

[MVSpartan117]

That's well within the firing range ;)

[5jumpchump]

The little box vehicles - holy **** - why would someone make something like that ? It looks so top heavy ? Did you have problems with them ?
Looks like the top speed is 3 mph . Is there a tactical advantage to them ?
Never seen anything like that before . What is it called , id like to research it . Fascinated by it . Tanx !

[mustamato]

The little box vehicles - holy **** - why would someone make something like that ? It looks so top heavy ? Did you have problems with them ?
Looks like the top speed is 3 mph . Is there a tactical advantage to them ?
Never seen anything like that before . What is it called , id like to research it . Fascinated by it . Tanx !

http://www.tgb-sidan.se/1index.php

Well it´s a old design from the 60´s, they are not comfortable and you can´t
drive very fast with them, but they are extremely basic, easy to repair and so
forth. The reason to why it´s high and not wide is because of the terrain here,
difficult to squeeze a Humvee between the trees.

http://www.mil.ee/im/varustus/tehnikapilt/atv.jpg

http://www.soldf.com/images/s_tgb1111.jpg

http://www.mil.ee/im/varustus/tehnikapilt/pvpjtgb_1111a_mt.jpg

http://www.soldf.com/images/s_tgb21_1.jpg

http://www.soldf.com/images/s_tgb21_hytt.jpg

[SR15]

this MINI M113 looks funy.
nice pics.

[Steve Railsback]

OH.. i just love Those little Volvos, they are so cool. woot

And they are really good off road, much better then the g-wagon. To bad I didn’t by one when the army was getting rid of them. :(

[Russian Texan]

http://www.p7.mil.se/images/local/img_0184_webb.jpg
Malmö (Swedens third largest city) and its harbour area
Ну что-то вроде Мухосранска...


http://www.p7.mil.se/images/local/nbc_10.jpg
NBC soldiers
А я думал гомосеки со шлангом играются...


http://www.p7.mil.se/images/local/artrrgrpchundergruppering.jpg
... and inside Arthur
Шоб у меня в доме так чисто было...


http://www.p7.mil.se/images/local/dscf0015.jpg
Two ladies
Не, я столько не выпью....



http://www.p7.mil.se/images/local/pejlgrupps1.jpg
A group of soldiers from a electronic warfare unit (note the thingie behind them)
Гомосеки на фоне леса...


http://www.armen.mil.se/images/local/stara_0316_dyk_upp.jpg
Гомосек - морж...


http://www.k4.mil.se/images/local/rso04_pvrb_1.jpg
Гомосеки спиздили какую-то железную херню и задумчиво смотрят вдаль думая что с ней делать, ну или высматривают чего бы ещё спиздить...

http://www.k4.mil.se/images/local/rso04_pvrb_3.jpg
Гомосек на лыжах


http://www.k4.mil.se/images/local/rso04_utspis.jpg
Отмороженный гомосек...


http://www.armen.mil.se/images/local/psg90.jpg
Гомосек в перьях...косит под снайпера...


http://www.armen.mil.se/images/local/vevapa.jpg
Гомосеки варят джинсы...

[mustamato]

Ну что-то вроде Мухосранска...

А я думал гомосеки со шлангом играются...

Шоб у меня в доме так чисто было...

Не, я столько не выпью....

Гомосеки на фоне леса...

Гомосек - морж...

Гомосеки спиздили какую-то железную херню и задумчиво смотрят вдаль думая что с ней делать, ну или высматривают чего бы ещё спиздить...

Гомосек на лыжах

Отмороженный гомосек...

Гомосек в перьях...косит под снайпера...

Гомосеки варят джинсы...

Good for you. And I guess you don´t have a second of military experience, so what´s your point? :roll:

______________________________________

Some more pictures from the exercise:

http://www.armen.mil.se/images/local/ksp58_2.jpg

http://www.armen.mil.se/images/local/sikte.jpg

http://www.armen.mil.se/images/local/snubbe_i_text.jpg

http://www.armen.mil.se/images/local/krutrok.jpg
AK5C, to which all AK5´s will be modified to.

http://www.armen.mil.se/images/local/ksp90.jpg

http://www.armen.mil.se/images/local/lvforsvar_strf_over_bro.jpg

http://www.armen.mil.se/images/local/lv_rb90_bro640.jpg
... protected by Rbs 90

http://www.armen.mil.se/images/local/stridsfordon.jpg

http://www.armen.mil.se/images/local/strfor90.jpg

http://www.armen.mil.se/images/local/skor.jpg

[Russian Texan]

Good for you. And I guess you don´t have a second of military experience, so what´s your point?

Do you even know what I wrote? :)
I am sure if you knew, you'd appreciate it.

[Parzival]

http://www.p7.mil.se/images/local/lavett97nr2.jpg

I live 2 kilometers away from that bridge! woot
LOL, That Robot is pointed on Denmark :)

[RomanS]

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAA

MY STOMACH HURTS BRO

OH MY GOD

[-Max2-]

Nice pics ! woot

Swedish Army rocks... :)

[fantassin]

The Swedish army has got such incredibly good kit and firepower...

-Best Leopard II in the world, the STR 122
-One of the best IFVs, the CV9040
-Several hundred Pvb901 (MTLB) updated and use for support use
-The RBS70/90
-A lot of firepower at infantry squad level (2XMAGs for 6 soldiers in a CV90 !) plus 2XAT4s...

and some hidden plus like female tank commanders and platoon leaders....

;)

[Brandon]

AWESOME pics!

[Dalleer]

http://www.armen.mil.se/images/local/ksp90.jpg

Wow, cool...

Mahtaa näillä mänteillä Ryssillä olla jännää käyttää omaa kieltään tällaisellä boardilla kun monikaan muu ei tajua. Eipä silti, kyllä minäkin voin puhua paskaa heistä omalla kielelläni

[0#256]

Good for you. And I guess you don´t have a second of military experience, so what´s your point?

Do you even know what I wrote? :)
I am sure if you knew, you'd appreciate it.
Hey! Why keep us in suspense?
As English is what the majority speaks here, so you please do so too.

[Guttorm]

Whats up with responding in Russian and Finnish?

If you haven't got the guts to say it so everyone can understand, then don't say it at all.

[mustamato]

Whats up with responding in Russian and Finnish?

If you haven't got the guts to say it so everyone can understand, then don't say it at all.

Exactly what Dalleer said, but only in Finnish :) It´s kind of retarded behaviour
from the Ruskies, but since they live in USA all of them I guess they feel a need to
be special or something.

[Dalleer]

Whats up with responding in Russian and Finnish?

If you haven't got the guts to say it so everyone can understand, then don't say it at all.

Yeah, you said it.

As I said before it's real freakin' fair to mock someone else's country or talk all sorts of stuff about an individual user in Russian when the target can't understand it himself.

That's what I said in my message, since apparently two can play that game.

[Stavka]

Less gibberish, more humor! Im still waiting for a translation from russian-speek... :roll:

[HELEX]

Really nice Stuff, especially heard only good things about CV90 :)

[Russian Texan]

Whats up with responding in Russian and Finnish?

If you haven't got the guts to say it so everyone can understand, then don't say it at all.

It wasn't intendent for you guys, it was meant for the russian speaking members of the forum. It also can not be translated into english because it would make no sense, it will get lost in translation...

Did it ever cross your mind that this site might be visited by some russians who do not speak english? I wrote those explanatory comments for them.

Also for some reason you, our dear viking friends, think that those comments are derogatory - prove it....

[LJK]

Hei ne on ryssiä. Ei niiltä voi paljoa odottaakkaan, kun koko ikänsä asunu jossain Pietarin slummissa ja ajellu ladoillaan. :lol:

[M_S]

Russian is a hard language but im learning..you just wait! p-)


"Kak vaz Zavot"? now its probably all f***ed up in spelling but i hope you get what i wrote! =D

[FinnishMF]

Hei ne on ryssiä. Ei niiltä voi paljoa odottaakkaan, kun koko ikänsä asunu jossain Pietarin slummissa ja ajellu ladoillaan. :lol:
Jeps :) Voikahan siellä porukka käydä edes koulua :(

[mustamato]

Some more photos from the exercise, this time from Malmö and its harbour area.

http://www.p4.mil.se/images/local/rso39.jpg
Russian comfort, MT-LB, the Russians squeeze in 11 men, the Swedes
6, with all their equipment, note AT-4´s in the middle

http://www.p4.mil.se/images/local/rso40.jpg
Pbv 401 again

http://www.p4.mil.se/images/local/rso36.jpg

http://www.p4.mil.se/images/local/rso23.jpg

http://www.p4.mil.se/images/local/rso24.jpg

http://www.p4.mil.se/images/local/rso35.jpg
CV90 from behind...

http://www.p4.mil.se/images/local/rso25.jpg
... and another one

http://www.p4.mil.se/images/local/rso2.jpg

http://www.p4.mil.se/images/local/rso8.jpg

http://www.p4.mil.se/images/local/rso13.jpg

http://www.p4.mil.se/images/local/rso20.jpg

http://www.p4.mil.se/images/local/rso11.jpg

http://www.p4.mil.se/images/local/rso15.jpg

http://www.p4.mil.se/images/local/rso6.jpg

http://www.p4.mil.se/images/local/rso18.jpg

http://www.p4.mil.se/images/local/rso34.jpg

http://www.p4.mil.se/images/local/rso37.jpg

http://www.p4.mil.se/images/local/rso22.jpg

[RomanS]

http://www.p4.mil.se/images/local/rso40.jpg

why are they using our equipment?

Oh i know why.

ill answer my own question. Thats because they can't come up with their own ideas, originality, and build it.

It is much easier to depend on someone else for it.

as for Russian Texan's comments , my stomach still hurts, and I had to read them again loooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooool

May I say Kalashinkov's grandson Igor K. friquently visits this forum. As well as Mihail Dragunov and other famous Russian weapon designers.

Their opinions about Scandies are as funny as Russian Texans

[mustamato]

http://www.p4.mil.se/images/local/rso40.jpg

why are they using our equipment?

Because they were cheap? I have myself some experience with the MT-LB
from my army days = useless piece of **** that I wouldn´t want to be near
in case of real combat.

[ShadowNeo]

why are they using our equipment?

Oh i know why.

ill answer my own question. Thats because they can't come up with their own ideas, originality, and build it.

It is much easier to depend on someone else for it.

Simple economics. Why invest lots of money in R&D and build your own when what you need already exists. It isn't an insult to ones country just because they use some foreign equipment :).

[fantassin]

why are they using our equipment?

Oh i know why.

ill answer my own question. Thats because they can't come up with their own ideas, originality, and build it.

It is much easier to depend on someone else for it.


That's because they were sold by Germany from old East German army (NVA) stocks and were bought for half-nothing. Sweden got close to 900 of them!

Now they sort of regret it because keeping so many costs a lot of money. They are mostly useful in the North of Sweden where the ground is boggier...

Do you know how they open and close the door on the MTLB in the Swedish army ? they have to use a wrench because the doors keep on flying open when travelling if they are not bolted shut with a wrench every time...

[mustamato]

Do you know how they open and close the door on the MTLB in the Swedish army ? they have to use a wrench because the doors keep on flying open when travelling if they are not bolted shut with a wrench every time...

Yeah. Haha, I wondered why the hell the MT-LB crews had a wrench in their
uniform, I thought "surely they must have tools to fix the engine with inside
the vehicle", and it was used to open and close the door with :D

So idiotic, and so Russian.

[He219]

Babel Fish Translation:

Well something like Mukhosranska... But I thought gomoseki with the hose they are played... Shob in my house so purely was... Not, 4 so many I will not drink... Gomoseki against the background of forest... Gomosek - walrus... Gomoseki of spizdili some iron khernyu pensive look far thinking that with it to make, well or they look out what to still spizdit'... Gomosek on skis... Frozen gomosek... Gomosek in the feathers mows under the sniper... Gomoseki cook jeans...
p-)

[Groove]

Im wondering why russians driving Mercedes and other non-russian cars for example. They have great russian cars like Lada or the great long-range truck Kamaz....

Oh - let my answer my question !

Because they can built a simple AK-47 but a car like the cheapest Mercedes isnt reachable development in the next 50 years !

See ? Thats how flamewars starts Permskii so stop this trolling pls.

Groove

[mustamato]

Gomoseki?

[Marmot1]

Do you know how they open and close the door on the MTLB in the Swedish army ? they have to use a wrench because the doors keep on flying open when travelling if they are not bolted shut with a wrench every time...

Yeah. Haha, I wondered why the hell the MT-LB crews had a wrench in their
uniform, I thought "surely they must have tools to fix the engine with inside
the vehicle", and it was used to open and close the door with :D

So idiotic, and so Russian.

:lol:
http://www.tailspinstudio.com/clipart/images/wrench.gif

[Marmot1]

Gomoseki?
http://www.artexbhp.home.pl/buty/wpe7.jpg

[Ichhabe]

http://www.p4.mil.se/images/local/rso40.jpg

why are they using our equipment?

Oh i know why.

ill answer my own question. Thats because they can't come up with their own ideas, originality, and build it.

It is much easier to depend on someone else for it.

as for Russian Texan's comments , my stomach still hurts, and I had to read them again loooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooool

May I say Kalashinkov's grandson Igor K. friquently visits this forum. As well as Mihail Dragunov and other famous Russian weapon designers.

Their opinions about Scandies are as funny as Russian Texans


Man, you are pathetic. Why did you come back after you left like the cry baby you are? (don't bother to reply)

You know what, I won't miss any of you pictures.

[UkrainianAmerican]

HHAHAHAHHAH
Russian Texan is da man.
Marmot thats not a gomosek.
And the translation if almost as hilarious.
!!!!!!

[RomanS]

HHAHAHAHHAH
Russian Texan is da man.
Marmot thats not a gomosek.
And the translation if almost as hilarious.
!!!!!!

this made my day too man

I haven't laughed this hard since the euro fags here were feeling important and ****.

[Marmot1]

HHAHAHAHHAH
Russian Texan is da man.
Marmot thats not a gomosek.
And the translation if almost as hilarious.
!!!!!!


Yeah I read it as a gumoshky first time and then couldn't dellete post when realized that I am wrong......

[UkrainianAmerican]

HHAHAHAHHAH
Russian Texan is da man.
Marmot thats not a gomosek.
And the translation if almost as hilarious.
!!!!!!


Yeah I read it as a gumoshky first time and then couldn't dellete post when realized that I am wrong......
It is nice to be able to read.

[Stavka]

Lol, this is just great, another thread hijacked and encrypted by Evil-Ivans ninja-kyrillic (spelling?) ultrahightechleetkthxallyourbasearebelongtousEncrypt0rmachine0r! Dang, what are we ever to do?! ;)

As for russian equipment in the swedish army, the only things i can think of are the MT-LB and BMP-1 (pbv 401 and 501 by our designation, being discontinued).
I have no experience with neither of the above mentioned, I served on the pbv 302, but a mate of mine served on the BMP-1. According to him it was pretty allright as long as you weren't taller than 175 cm's...

Question for our russian zealots:
Does anyone have detailed info on the BMP-1? Engine, fording capabilities, stereo-manufacturer, and so on? It's a sweet-lookin ICV, I give you that.

[RomanS]

Lol, this is just great, another thread hijacked and encrypted by Evil-Ivans ninja-kyrillic (spelling?) ultrahightechleetkthxallyourbasearebelongtousEncrypt0rmachine0r! Dang, what are we ever to do?! ;)

As for russian equipment in the swedish army, the only things i can think of are the MT-LB and BMP-1 (pbv 401 and 501 by our designation, being discontinued).
I have no experience with neither of the above mentioned, I served on the pbv 302, but a mate of mine served on the BMP-1. According to him it was pretty allright as long as you weren't taller than 175 cm's...

Question for our russian zealots:
Does anyone have detailed info on the BMP-1? Engine, fording capabilities, stereo-manufacturer, and so on? It's a sweet-lookin ICV, I give you that.

why don't you guys purchase some BMP3s ?

[mustamato]

Lol, this is just great, another thread hijacked and encrypted by Evil-Ivans ninja-kyrillic (spelling?) ultrahightechleetkthxallyourbasearebelongtousEncrypt0rmachine0r! Dang, what are we ever to do?! ;)

As for russian equipment in the swedish army, the only things i can think of are the MT-LB and BMP-1 (pbv 401 and 501 by our designation, being discontinued).
I have no experience with neither of the above mentioned, I served on the pbv 302, but a mate of mine served on the BMP-1. According to him it was pretty allright as long as you weren't taller than 175 cm's...

Question for our russian zealots:
Does anyone have detailed info on the BMP-1? Engine, fording capabilities, stereo-manufacturer, and so on? It's a sweet-lookin ICV, I give you that.

why don't you guys purchase some BMP3s ?

Because we already have CV90 and don´t need any. Sweden has bought
armour from Russia = bad experience. Also the Swedish Navy has bought
a ship from Russia, it had to be scrapped because it was total piece of ****
and the repairs would have cost too much. I think the last time Sweden bought
Russian military hardware was 2-3 years ago when there was some scandal,
and the Russians accused Sweden of "stealing military secrets", it was some
newly developed radar that Sweden had bought from some "businessman".

Buying Russian armour and stuff? No way. Maybe if we can get them for free.

[Stavka]

why don't you guys purchase some BMP3s ?

Im not sure the BMP-3 was on the international market when the first versions of CV90 entered service. I know that we looked at the Bradley and Warrior ICVs, but none of them were up to our needs in an ICV.

[Russian Texan]

Because they were cheap?
No, because you are cheap...

I have myself some experience with the MT-LB
from my army days = useless piece of **** that I wouldn´t want to be near
in case of real combat.
You do realise that it is a TRACTOR, right?
MTLB stands for "small lightly armored tractor", it was not exactly meant as infantry fighting vehicle...
So my question is: what are you using it for?

[mustamato]

You do realise that it is a TRACTOR, right?
MTLB stands for "small lightly armored tractor", it was not exactly meant as infantry fighting vehicle...
So my question is: what are you using it for?


Well, the Swedish designation is Pansarbandvagn (Pbv) 401, which means
armoured tracked vehicle. It´s not used as a IFV, to that Sweden have the
CV90, and to some extenth also Pbv 302 (with a 20 mm automatic cannon).
It´s used kind of as a tractor in Sweden as well, to transport equipment and
soldiers. But that doesn´t help it from leaking diesel so that you have the whole
floor filled up when you wake up one morning, and still, opening the door with a
wrench!

Tests in Sweden have also showed that the side-armour can in worst case be
pierced by 5.56, so I wouldn´t really trust its ability to protect me if it was targeted
by artillery or whatever. I would rather walk after the vehicle than moving in it,
it can be seen and would be a target, and it can be heard from hundreds of
meters away. Good features though is the power and the MG (PKT - Ksp 95),
probably the best in the world. Some Swedish Pbv 401 photos:

http://www.plasticwarfare.com/articles/p4/P2080013.jpg

http://www.haaland.info/sweden/apc/pbv401Wendel.jpg

http://www.haaland.info/sweden/apc/pbv401_2.jpg

http://www.haaland.info/sweden/apc/pbv401-amb.jpg

Let us hear about your experience with the MT-LB now :roll: .

[Russian Texan]

Let us hear about your experience with the MT-LB now

I saw it in the movie about polar explorers once...

[mustamato]

Let us hear about your experience with the MT-LB now

I saw it in the movie about polar explorers once...

Let me guess, it stopped working and they died?

[fantassin]

The BMP1s in Swedish service had a ban on the use of their 73 mm cannon because of its low reliability...I think most of them are in store now.

[wreck]

HHAHAHAHHAH
Russian Texan is da man.
Marmot thats not a gomosek.
And the translation if almost as hilarious.
!!!!!!

this made my day too man

I haven't laughed this hard since the euro fags here were feeling important and ****.
I almost had changed my opinion about ruskies, now I'm back with the old one.

It must be quite frustrating to own 41% of all the natural resources and still be a really poor ex-communist state. Meanwhile small countries next door live a good western life and the biggest thing in the life of average Ivan is to go to on a skiing trip into those rich countries, remember to steal everything that is not bolted to the gound.

Now, before replying to this post remember who started this **** in the first place and also remember to enable your sarcasm detector p-)

[wreck]

Then back to ontopic.

Great pics mustamato! Damn, looks like the swedes are pretty tough after all. It wouldn't be as easy as we thought to invade sweden in order to get their babes.

The soldiers on the pic about electronic warfare troops look like true "kynäniska" (pencil necks) :lol:

[StukaJr]

:hug: RussianTexan made my day - I started hyperventilating I was laughing so hard... rofl

Awesome pics though - I'll send it to all the swedish folks at my office tomorrow.

[UkrainianAmerican]

HHAHAHAHHAH
Russian Texan is da man.
Marmot thats not a gomosek.
And the translation if almost as hilarious.
!!!!!!

this made my day too man

I haven't laughed this hard since the euro fags here were feeling important and ****.
I almost had changed my opinion about ruskies, now I'm back with the old one.

It must be quite frustrating to own 41% of all the natural resources and still be a really poor ex-communist state. Meanwhile small countries next door live a good western life and the biggest thing in the life of average Ivan is to go to on a skiing trip into those rich countries, remember to steal everything that is not bolted to the gound.

Now, before replying to this post remember who started this **** in the first place and also remember to enable your sarcasm detector p-)
Why go skin got Sweden? We got enough snow in the motherland. :lol:

[deutschersoldat]

http://www.armen.mil.se/images/local/strfor90.jpg








is that you main battle tank

[Catch22]

It's their newest IFV actually - CV90 (Swedish wersion with 40mm bofors gun) :D

As for their MBT they got modified Leo2A5 (Strv122, right?) said to be the best Leo modification for the moment...

[Swedish_Marine]

Deutchersoldat. No that is not a tank. It´s a Combat Vhiecle 9040. It´s for troop transport in mechanised combat. It has a 40 mm automatic cannon among other things. Our main battletank is a Leopard 2. Here we have two types of Leo2, the 121 and the 122. The 121 is basically a rented Leo2. And the 122 is a heavilly modified version of Leo2. It is one of the best MBT:s in the world.

EDIT: Catch22 beat me to it.

http://www.soldf.com/images/s_strv122.jpg[/url]

[mustamato]

http://www.armen.mil.se/images/local/strfor90.jpg

is that you main battle tank

No, that´s a CV9040 Infantry Fighting Vehicle, transports a squad of 6 soldiers
in the compartment in the back. Swedens MBT is Strv 121 and Strv 122, both
Leopard 2´s, the Strv 122 is by some considered the most advanced MBT in the
world. CV9040´s Swedish designation is Stridsfordon (Strf) 90

http://www.p4.mil.se/images/local/rso2.jpg
Strv 122 and Strf 90 in the back

Both 2 above beat me to it, damn that was fast replies :D

[Parzival]

http://www.armen.mil.se/images/local/strfor90.jpg








is that you main battle tank rofl

[execrable]

http://www.armen.mil.se/images/local/strfor90.jpg








is that you main battle tank rofl
Shut up!

[Parzival]

I love Winter Camoflouge :)

http://www.armen.mil.se/images/local/krutrok.jpg
http://www.armen.mil.se/images/local/ksp58_2.jpg
http://www.armen.mil.se/images/local/bildforstarkare.jpg
http://www.p7.mil.se/images/local/dscf0046.jpg
http://www.p7.mil.se/images/local/stridsvagn.jpg
http://www.p7.mil.se/images/local/vlordergivning.jpg
http://www.i19.mil.se/images/local/pskytte_tame_taterrang2.jpg
http://www.i19.mil.se/images/local/pskytte_tame_framat.jpg
http://www.armen.mil.se/images/local/bred.jpg
http://www.armen.mil.se/images/local/122.jpg

[Antaris]

Sweden got close to 900 of them!



Oh we do? seeing as we only bought.. 800.. and we´ve scrapped 300 of them (probably much more nowadays) and are using the others for target practice and repair parts? Hey. how does that work? :roll:

[LJK]

Im wondering why russians driving Mercedes and other non-russian cars for example. They have great russian cars like Lada or the great long-range truck Kamaz....



Groove

Or UAZ rofl rofl rofl rofl

[AK-Lover]

Hey shutup! I own an UAZ! :bash: :slap: Bitch! :slap:

[Russian Texan]

Im wondering why russians driving Mercedes and other non-russian cars for example. They have great russian cars like Lada or the great long-range truck Kamaz....
For the same reason Americans, Canadians and others do - they are great/better cars.

Oh - let my answer my question !
Because they can built a simple AK-47 but a car like the cheapest Mercedes isnt reachable development in the next 50 years !
Because different countries have different priorities: some build Mercedeses, some build SS18s, space stations and "Typhoons"...

[Russian Texan]

Let us hear about your experience with the MT-LB now

I saw it in the movie about polar explorers once...

Let me guess, it stopped working and they died?

Nope, they encountered some evil Гомосеки, defeated them and proceeded to fulfill their duty to the glorious Motherland.

BTW, if soviet equipment is such a crap, how come you have so much of it?
There are only two possible scenarious:

#1 You are cheap scrooges.

#2 You are poor and can't afford anything better.

So which one is it?

[Yard Ape]

The little box vehicles - holy **** - why would someone make something like that ? It looks so top heavy ? Did you have problems with them ?
Looks like the top speed is 3 mph . Is there a tactical advantage to them ?
Never seen anything like that before . What is it called , id like to research it . Fascinated by it . Tanx !

Which box vehicle? This one:
http://www.p7.mil.se/images/local/arthurgrupperadochklar.jpg?


http://www.army.forces.gc.ca/LF/English/Images/2_0/25.jpg
It also proved effective when used by Canadians in Afghanistan.

[Dalleer]

Let us hear about your experience with the MT-LB now

I saw it in the movie about polar explorers once...

Let me guess, it stopped working and they died?

Nope, they encountered some evil Гомосеки, defeated them and proceeded to fulfill their duty to the glorious Motherland.

BTW, if soviet equipment is such a crap, how come you have so much of it?
There are only two possible scenarious:

#1 You are cheap scrooges.

#2 You are poor and can't afford anything better.

So which one is it?


At first, let me remind you that at the time that we bought some of the Russian equipment we were very much "friends" with the soviet union. Surely we could've bought western stuff, but I'm sure that the great motherland would've probably been a bit irritated.

Secondly, the FDF is freakin' poor and has the suckiest budget management ever. Surely we manage to make some good trades once in a while, but for the most part our biggest flaw is the fact that we use hopelessly outdated equipment in some areas or make stupid deals that at the end turn out to be less beneficial than we expected.

Maybe we're poor, or maybe we're cheap, but all I know is that our "material acquisition" guys aren't exactly the brightest so far.

Now surely "the guys" finally understood that we need a new MBT, but surely we would need more personal equipment made for the regular infantry soldier as well.

And now there's a completely new "M/05" equipment line being planned and constructed, wheew...

[mustamato]

[And now there's a completely new "M/05" equipment line being planned and constructed, wheew...

Which in my humble opinion it´s a failure already from the beginning, since it´s
not a "true combat BDU" like the m/62, but the m/05 (as the m/91) must be
beautiful as well, because it is also intended to be used by the soldiers on leave.
Well that´s nice, but it also makes them less useful out in the forest. And, m/05
in many ways feels lika a step backwards to me. I mean, it has ordinary buttons
instead of these press buttons and zippers just to save some lousy Euros. Sucky
sucky. Those big pockets would be perfect for a lots of things, as reloading the
assault rifle and putting the empty magazines there, works great when having
zippers, but not ordinary buttons.

But hm, the combat vest vill be a improvement I guess, and the camo is probably
more effective than the rather ugly m/91. But the design of the Swedish m/90
(and the Finnish m/91 which is basically the same **** but with different camo)
is great, loved it during my 10 months. Ordinary buttons is the suxxors.

[mustamato]

Last pictures from the exercise that is ending now, and the soldiers have a
lots of fun cleaning of all the equipment to look forward to.

http://www.p7.mil.se/images/local/strf90_vagen_eb.jpg
A CV90 takes a little shortcut thru a forest...

http://www.p7.mil.se/images/local/strf90_uppigen.webb_ebjpg.jpg
... and drives over 3 simulated anti-tank mines and is very killed

http://www.p7.mil.se/images/local/sjv_frr_webb.jpg
... when the area is secured the injured are taken care of

http://www.p7.mil.se/images/local/srf_skjuter_webb.jpg
A machine gunner in the vehicle notices the enemy and opens fire

http://www.p7.mil.se/images/local/bv_frr_webb.jpg
Another Bv 206

http://www.p7.mil.se/images/local/nbc3sjvplatsen.jpg
After a NBC attack those with least injuries get treatment first, because
their chances of surviving is bigger

http://www.p7.mil.se/images/local/nbc4huvudbild_nbc.jpg
The injured gets cleaned before getting the treatment, that´s by the way
old swedish army uniform m/39-58. Used during world war 2. Old ****.

http://www.armen.mil.se/images/local/snubbe.jpg

http://www.armen.mil.se/images/local/yr90.jpg
Bad ass photo of a Strf 90B

_______________________________________-

By the way, three conscripts were arrested because planning of stealing
three AK5´s, didn´t work out that well obviously.

[Russian Texan]

To Dalleer,

What does Finland's army old soviet equipment have to do with this topic?
My question was addressed to masturbato because it is "swedish army exercise"...

Finland and Russia were friends, really?
I, as well as other Russians, always thought of Finland as another westen/capitalist country.
And I still do not understand why you didn't want to "irritate" USSR by buying western equipment, Finland was/is a sovereign country, right?

[mustamato]

Well, Sweden uses Russian armour because they didn´t cost much. I´m not
sure about the number but it was something like a MT-LB for around $1000.
The BMP-1´s was not much more exepensive, give or take a couple of thousand
dollars. A new CV90, made in Sweden would have costed more like $2.000.000

And it´s clear to me that you don´t no **** about Finnish-Soviet relationship
during the cold war. Here is some info for you my young friend:

http://213.138.148.8/vf/search/resultpage.asp?sel=99&ct=VF_NEWS%2C+VF_STATIC&q1=cold+war

[FinnishMF]

To Dalleer,

What does Finland's army old soviet equipment have to do with this topic?
My question was addressed to masturbato because it is "swedish army exercise"...

Finland and Russia were friends, really?
I, as well as other Russians, always thought of Finland as another westen/capitalist country.
And I still do not understand why you didn't want to "irritate" USSR by buying western equipment, Finland was/is a sovereign country, right?
Thats becouse we (majority of us) still scare the big powerful Russia.
And that is sad :|
This is the reason we don't go to the NATO either.

[mustamato]

Thats becouse we (majority of us) still scare the big powerful Russia.
And that is sad :|
This is the reason we don't go to the NATO either.

Hm? I think not. People in Finland doesn´t want to be part of NATO according
to opinion polls. Especially when NATO bombed Serbia, in hm -99 I think the polls
showed something like 80% that said no to NATO. Now it´s 55% or something
I think, not sure about the exact numbers. But Russia is not exactly a threat.

http://www.mil.fi/asiointi/julkaisut/finland_and_nato/index.dsp
Good article about Finland and NATO

[Russian Texan]

Thats becouse we (majority of us) still scare the big powerful Russia.
And that is sad :|
This is the reason we don't go to the NATO either.

Well, if you are still, for whatever reason, are afraid of Russia - wouldn't NATO be a logical choice?
So why you don't want to join it and what are your concerns regarding Russia?

To masturbato
I might not know much about USSR/Finland relationship but I for sure know something about Russians mindset...
They weren't a communist country - they were the potential enemy.

[FinnishMF]

To Dalleer,

What does Finland's army old soviet equipment have to do with this topic?
My question was addressed to masturbato because it is "swedish army exercise"...

Finland and Russia were friends, really?
I, as well as other Russians, always thought of Finland as another westen/capitalist country.
And I still do not understand why you didn't want to "irritate" USSR by buying western equipment, Finland was/is a sovereign country, right?
I just want to point out that the reason why we use Russian eguipmets is also that they are sometimes in our condition even better than western stuff. Basic rule is that they are more reliable than western. I was in artillery and got nothing bad to say about russian artillery eguipments p-)
Now we are doing hard work to meke our army compatible with NATO



Well, if you are still, for whatever reason, are afraid of Russia - wouldn't NATO be a logical choice?
So why you don't want to join it and what are your concerns regarding Russia?
Dont ask me :lol:
mustamato should also know that in newspapers(for example) there is always articles how we worry too much about Russian opinion about our NATO decision.

Edit: And yes, my english sucks bad :roll:

[tony6]

Permski:

I haven't laughed this hard since the euro fags here were feeling important and ****.
Now that's what I call THE POST.

[RomanS]

MASTURBATO

rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl

[Dalleer]

To Dalleer,

What does Finland's army old soviet equipment have to do with this topic?
My question was addressed to masturbato because it is "swedish army exercise"...

Finland and Russia were friends, really?
I, as well as other Russians, always thought of Finland as another westen/capitalist country.
And I still do not understand why you didn't want to "irritate" USSR by buying western equipment, Finland was/is a sovereign country, right?

Yes, I must confess that I got a bit disorientated with what you said and all, and I thought that it was also something that concerned Finland.

Then again, your knowledge of both of these armed forces is laughable so I'm sure that this little piece of information was nothing but good and much needed knowledge to you.

Now, the other topic.

Finland and the USSR signed a "YYA"-treaty (translation?) that was more or less something of an forced attempt to create friendship between these two nations.

And at times it worked, but it was considered by many to be just something that we had to agree into due to the political situation of that time.

We belonged to the USSR's "backyard" and we did have our "sovereignity" but the USSR surely had the guts to interfere slightly to our politics once in a while.

Surely Finland was a sovereign country, but it still belonged to the USSR's sphere of influence. Mainly due to Finland being a mix of western and eastern "blocks".

I suggest you study this period of your country's history, since it will surely give you alot more information than I can.

[Russian Texan]

good and much needed knowledge to you.
Why?

Is Finland going to join NATO yes/no and what are the "pro" & "cons" of such union?

[dumdidum]

http://www.armen.mil.se/images/local/lv_rb90_bro640.jpg
thats about 5 kilometers from where I live

[Dalleer]

good and much needed knowledge to you.
Why?

Is Finland going to join NATO yes/no and what are the "pro" & "cons" of such union?

I wouldn't know if Finland joins NATO in the future, and I doubt that neither does the prime minister of India.

However, there's much of debate over this going in here and it would seem that the first "virtue" that NATO would take away from us in the event of a membership would be our neutrality.

I suppose that this might be true to some extent, but of course further speculation wouldn't help the outcome at all. Also, we would be paying millions of Euros annually for the NATO membership and surely our defence budget would rise due to it.

However, the things that would probably be the "better sides" of the membership are listed as follows (my opinion):

-In theory, we could acquire modern equipment for our armed forces with less prices but would probably have to make the FDF a professional force of soldiers instead of the conscript service that we have in place now.

-We would get properly motivated people to the armed forces, instead of the conscripts. Thus, the training methods could be updated to more physically and mentally demanding ones instead. The downside would of course be that our armed forces would have to be greatly diminished in size and question our whole preparedness during a crisis in Finland.

The downsides, as follows:

-Basically, would about 20.000 or so troops be enough to defend Finland from an foreign invader, despite their high morale and excellent training ?

-What guarantees would we have from NATO to assist us in case of an invasion into Finland by a hostile nation? Would they pack some Bundeswehr troops to assist us or perhaps bring the U.S.S. Constellation to the gulf of Finland ?

-The conscription-based defence force would have to be shut down and therefore leave a very big hole into the national defence of our country.

-Would we be targeted by the terrorists as well? would our soldiers be sent to fight wars to faraway lands and die?

Etc. etc.

[RomanS]

Its awesome to talk about Winter War.

Kind of like, look Russians left - WE ARE THE ****!

If Stalin wanted Finland as bad, our granparents would of made you Fins eating snow 3 times a day.

Interesting, we took Germany and changed their history, but didn't take Finland?

MAybe there is a reason? Like Russian Texan said before, we don't need no stinky Finland. We have plenty of our own snow and fish.

But I need to research more on Finland paying Russia money for not invading them again issue. Thats awesome PAY US or we will .... you know

[Dalleer]

If Stalin wanted Finland as bad, our granparents would of made you Fins eating snow 3 times a day.

Heh heh, too bad for you he couldn't, then.

[FinnishMF]

Its awesome to talk about Winter War.

Kind of like, look Russians left - WE ARE THE ****!

If Stalin wanted Finland as bad, our granparents would of made you Fins eating snow 3 times a day.

Interesting, we took Germany and changed their history, but didn't take Finland?

MAybe there is a reason? Like Russian Texan said before, we don't need no stinky Finland. We have plenty of our own snow and fish.

But I need to research more on Finland paying Russia money for not invading them again issue. Thats awesome PAY US or we will .... you know
Oh you are stupid piece of **** :bash:
Winterwar was before WWII. So Russia made ALL trying to conquer Finland. But what happened ? dead russians everywhere.
Poor Russians :petting:

[RomanS]

werent you Fins with Nazis

great side to choose!

[Dalleer]

werent you Fins with Nazis

great side to choose!

Duh, seems like you really don't know ****.

[FinnishMF]

werent you Fins with Nazis

great side to choose!
So ? what is wrong with that ?

[RomanS]

If Stalin wanted Finland as bad, our granparents would of made you Fins eating snow 3 times a day.

Heh heh, too bad for you he couldn't, then.

wanted

and

couldn't

2 different things


now days, its a different game

We should go and tax you Fins again.

[RomanS]

werent you Fins with Nazis

great side to choose!
So ? what is wrong with that ?

Killing millions of Jews because they are Jews

uhh really NOTHING is wrong with it.

[Dalleer]

If Stalin wanted Finland as bad, our granparents would of made you Fins eating snow 3 times a day.

Heh heh, too bad for you he couldn't, then.

wanted

and

couldn't

2 different things


Seems like "couldn't" is still your answer.

[FinnishMF]

werent you Fins with Nazis

great side to choose!
So ? what is wrong with that ?

Killing millions of Jews because they are Jews

uhh really NOTHING is wrong with it.
What Stalin did? How many he killed ?

[Parzival]

Its awesome to talk about Winter War.

Kind of like, look Russians left - WE ARE THE ****!

If Stalin wanted Finland as bad, our granparents would of made you Fins eating snow 3 times a day.

Interesting, we took Germany and changed their history, but didn't take Finland?

MAybe there is a reason? Like Russian Texan said before, we don't need no stinky Finland. We have plenty of our own snow and fish.

But I need to research more on Finland paying Russia money for not invading them again issue. Thats awesome PAY US or we will .... you know
Oh you are stupid piece of **** :bash:
Winterwar was before WWII. So Russia made ALL trying to conquer Finland. But what happened ? dead russians everywhere.
Poor Russians :petting:
Yea, Becouse you were allied with the Nazi. In the seekend winter war hitler helps you.

[dumdidum]

werent you Fins with Nazis

great side to choose!

Acctually the russians were allied with germany in ww2, atleast until Hitler flipped out totaly.

great side to choose!

[FinnishMF]

Its awesome to talk about Winter War.

Kind of like, look Russians left - WE ARE THE ****!

If Stalin wanted Finland as bad, our granparents would of made you Fins eating snow 3 times a day.

Interesting, we took Germany and changed their history, but didn't take Finland?

MAybe there is a reason? Like Russian Texan said before, we don't need no stinky Finland. We have plenty of our own snow and fish.

But I need to research more on Finland paying Russia money for not invading them again issue. Thats awesome PAY US or we will .... you know
Oh you are stupid piece of **** :bash:
Winterwar was before WWII. So Russia made ALL trying to conquer Finland. But what happened ? dead russians everywhere.
Poor Russians :petting:
Yea, Becouse you were allied with the Nazi. In the seekend winter war hitler helps you.
Yeap, Nazis were big help ;)

[RomanS]

werent you Fins with Nazis

great side to choose!
So ? what is wrong with that ?

Killing millions of Jews because they are Jews

uhh really NOTHING is wrong with it.
What Stalin did? How many he killed ?

tell us, educate us

HOW MANY ?

[FinnishMF]

werent you Fins with Nazis

great side to choose!
So ? what is wrong with that ?

Killing millions of Jews because they are Jews

uhh really NOTHING is wrong with it.
What Stalin did? How many he killed ?

tell us, educate us

HOW MANY ?
More than Hitler :bash:

[Haiw]

About at least 20 million Russians...before WW2.

Oh and you really need to read up on Winter War history PO....

[RomanS]

werent you Fins with Nazis

great side to choose!

Acctually the russians were allied with germany in ww2, atleast until Hitler flipped out totaly.

great side to choose!

Sure,

its never too late to change, right?

Hitler Pwned himself. Did Fins change, and joined the World to fight the Nazi scum ?

Oh wait I keep forgeting There was WESTERN (USA BRITAIN) front, and EASTERN (USSSR) front.

[dumdidum]

Did Fins change, and joined the World to fight the Nazi scum ?

Well yes they did(earlier so then the russian), as much as they could, but its not very easy after being beat up for a couple of years by crazy communist imperialists.

[Dalleer]

werent you Fins with Nazis

great side to choose!
So ? what is wrong with that ?

Killing millions of Jews because they are Jews

uhh really NOTHING is wrong with it.

You know, I urge you to research our relations with Germany during the 40's and the Finnish-Russian "YYA"-treaty before coming over here and talking complete nonsense.

Therefore, you are very much mistaken.

Firstly, I'm sure that it is very suitable for the Russians to consider Finland as being "with the Nazis" since we indeed did receive weapons from them and the Germans were pretty much "pro-Finnish" at first.

We gave them areas of Lappland to garrison in, but we certainly did not follow every command that they wanted us to fulfill.

Research the topic of the "Lappland war" and what Mr. Mannerheim's relations were with Hitler at that time, I urge you to. Also, find information concerning the events in St. Petersburg during our offensive in 1942.

We were just there to regain Karelia back, so we halted our advance to the Finn-Russian border despite what the Germans asked us to do. We respected our original plan, what stated that nothing else besides what used to be Finnish soil is retaken , of course the Germans wanted us to continue our advance to St. Petersburg but we didn't.

Mainly, our relations with the Germans were just established due to our severe lack of weapons. The Germans had weapons and we needed them. We never belonged to the "Axis states" despite what alot of people would like to believe.

[Russian Texan]

Well, I actually looked in it vey briefly and it appears that Finns never, in its entire history, done Russians wrong...
I could be wrong but they do seem to be quiet and peaceful fellas, strange... what happened to "viking ancestry"?

[Dalleer]

Well, I actually looked in it vey briefly and it appears that Finns never, in its entire history, done Russians wrong...
I could be wrong but they do seem to be quiet and peaceful fellas, strange... what happened to "viking ancestry"?

Hah hah, and your point is?

The Russian attack into Finland in 1939 was a revenge from the raids that some bearded fellows made into the east during the metal-age ?

Please, try something more original. Or use the old classic if nothing else works: blame the shots fired at Mainila to be something that we actually started.

*Yawn*

[Groove]

Groove wrote:
Im wondering why russians driving Mercedes and other non-russian cars for example. They have great russian cars like Lada or the great long-range truck Kamaz....
For the same reason Americans, Canadians and others do - they are great/better cars.

Oh - let my answer my question !
Because they can built a simple AK-47 but a car like the cheapest Mercedes isnt reachable development in the next 50 years !
Because different countries have different priorities: some build Mercedeses, some build SS18s, space stations and "Typhoons"...


RussianTexan :

Well for Permskii everything not russian is **** - thats the point. He lives in his little world...

Well believe me - Germany could build nice Nuclear Weapons - Nuclear Submarines if they would like and would be allowed. Theirs Space Progrm is nice too. And besides they could build the finest cars even then and the people living in Germany would earn more money then a russian too - even then !

Groove

[Russian Texan]

Well, I actually looked in it vey briefly and it appears that Finns never, in its entire history, done Russians wrong...
I could be wrong but they do seem to be quiet and peaceful fellas, strange... what happened to "viking ancestry"?

Hah hah, and your point is?

The Russian attack into Finland in 1939 was a revenge from the raids that some bearded fellows made into the east during the metal-age ?

Please, try something more original. Or use the old classic if nothing else works: blame the shots fired at Mainila to be something that we actually started.

*Yawn*
I actually was trying to share what I have learned and there was no sarcasm in my post. I seem to regret it now....

[perdurabo]

werent you Fins with Nazis

great side to choose!
Weren't you russians with Nazis in september 39' ??

[Dalleer]

Well, I actually looked in it vey briefly and it appears that Finns never, in its entire history, done Russians wrong...
I could be wrong but they do seem to be quiet and peaceful fellas, strange... what happened to "viking ancestry"?

Hah hah, and your point is?

The Russian attack into Finland in 1939 was a revenge from the raids that some bearded fellows made into the east during the metal-age ?

Please, try something more original. Or use the old classic if nothing else works: blame the shots fired at Mainila to be something that we actually started.

*Yawn*
I actually was trying to share what I have learned and there was no sarcasm in my post. I seem to regret it now....

Bring this information into the conversation with a normal tone. Because believe me, we have gone way past the point of anyone understading sarcasm anymore in this conversation.

It's basically "you throw dirt, I throw dirt", or uneducated guesses.

[LJK]

werent you Fins with Nazis

great side to choose!
Weren't you russians with Nazis in september 39' ??

;)

[perdurabo]

Repost SORRY

[perdurabo]

werent you Fins with Nazis

great side to choose!
Weren't you russians with Nazis in september 39' ??

;)
those who are without fault should throw first stone (or something like that im not good at bible) :)

[RomanS]

Groove wrote:
Im wondering why russians driving Mercedes and other non-russian cars for example. They have great russian cars like Lada or the great long-range truck Kamaz....
For the same reason Americans, Canadians and others do - they are great/better cars.

Oh - let my answer my question !
Because they can built a simple AK-47 but a car like the cheapest Mercedes isnt reachable development in the next 50 years !
Because different countries have different priorities: some build Mercedeses, some build SS18s, space stations and "Typhoons"...


RussianTexan :

Well for Permskii everything not russian is **** - thats the point. He lives in his little world...

Well believe me - Germany could build nice Nuclear Weapons - Nuclear Submarines if they would like and would be allowed. Theirs Space Progrm is nice too. And besides they could build the finest cars even then and the people living in Germany would earn more money then a russian too - even then !

Groove

German space program lol

why invent bicycle if its been already invented.

leave the space to the profesionals. Its already conquered by Russian and Americans. All you can do now is to watch and enjoy.

The other day on History channel there was a program about Babi Yar. German SS units came into Ukraine, and killed 300,000 + civilians.

This was just one town out of thousands where NAZIs came and slaughtered our people. What did you expect the Russians do? Sit and suck german ****, and watch our people slaughter like pigs?

Our grandparents came all the way to Berlin, and exterminated all the nazis. They should of left Germany in dust for what they did to our people throughout Russia.

[gorg]

I once wrote an essay about the Winter War in high school, in the end I wrote that Finland was Russia's Vietnam, got an A :)

The Russian plan was to conquer Finland in 2 weeks, 105 days later with heavy casulties a peace agrement was sign.

[Dalleer]

leave the space to the profesionals. Its already conquered by Russian and Americans. All you can do now is to watch and enjoy.

Actually, neither the Americans or Russians have conquered the space. Merely you have just sent a man to the moon.

And that's a looong way from "conquering the space", so talk to you again when you've reached Proxima Centauri and not even then the job's done.

This makes me laugh, it's so damn "human" to think you've conquered space just when you've been to the moon.

[RomanS]

leave the space to the profesionals. Its already conquered by Russian and Americans. All you can do now is to watch and enjoy.

Actually, neither the Americans or Russians have conquered the space. Merely you have just sent a man to the moon.

And that's a looong way from "conquering the space", so talk to you again when you've reached Proxima Centauri.

Does Finland have a space program?
Before we start arguying further

[Dalleer]

leave the space to the profesionals. Its already conquered by Russian and Americans. All you can do now is to watch and enjoy.

Actually, neither the Americans or Russians have conquered the space. Merely you have just sent a man to the moon.

And that's a looong way from "conquering the space", so talk to you again when you've reached Proxima Centauri.

Does Finland have a space program?
Before we start arguying further

That has nothing to do with your false daydreams about currently owning space.

[Haiw]

Our grandparents came all the way to Berlin, and exterminated all the nazis.
Sure, you won the entire war on your own!
They should of left Germany in dust for what they did to our people throughout Russia.
You did...so what's your point?

BTW why is a German space program so laughable? In case you've forgot; it was mainly German rocket-technology and scientists that jumpstarted the US space-program...

[RomanS]

Our grandparents came all the way to Berlin, and exterminated all the nazis.
Sure, you won the entire war on your own!
They should of left Germany in dust for what they did to our people throughout Russia.
You did...so what's your point?

BTW why is a German space program so laughable? In case you've forgot; it was mainly German rocket-technology and scientists that jumpstarted the US space-program...

And it was DaVinci that invented flying

[Haiw]

Do you even have a point?!

[RomanS]

Do you even have a point?!

Yes

crawl into your mom, and re-born again

[Haiw]

http://www.california.com/~ssea/rr/bbpics/assclown.jpg

[RomanS]

http://www.california.com/~ssea/rr/bbpics/assclown.jpg

For that you will need another sperm donor, Im not sure if crawling into your mom and crawling back out will fix your looks.

[Stavka]

Do you even have a point?!

Yes

crawl into your mom, and re-born again

Let me point out to you, kind sir, the physiological impossibilities of such action being taken by Haiw.

First of all, let us asume that Haiw is of medium build, for simplicitys sake 180 cm's, weighing something like 75 kgs. And for the record, let us refrain from any comments about Haiws mother, who Im sure is a very decent woman. So nothing of the sort when speaking of the necessary space needed for Haiw to reboot his birth.

Secondly, its a matter of conception. For the previously mentioned action to be possible, Haiw would have to reverse his developmental procedure, reverting to a fetus, then back to a fertilized egg and then back to 2 separate units, 1 sperm cell and one egg. Clearly this is impossible, and for the record, just plain silly.

Now how about we all agree to obey the laws of nature from now on, OK?

[Haiw]

You're really opening the 1st-grader handbook for your jokes aren't ya?

rofl @ Stavka

[RomanS]

You're really opening the 1st-grader handbook for your jokes aren't ya?

No sir, just playing your game

[Haiw]

You must have weak comprehension abilities, because to every sane post of mine you respond with crap
and I quote
which makes the storyline of a **** movie look like ****ens
(c) gaz 2004

Besides, if you feel the need to insult people, at least do it with jokes you don't hear in kindergarten.

[HELEX]

Oh, I missed a Flamewar? ;)

Well, Europe has the most reliable and profitable Space program. Ariane 5 is the Strongest Rocket in Service and Ariane 4 the most reliable, they rule the satelite Market.
To launch a manned space Program was discussed but rejectet because it was to expensive and leads to nothing.

[RomanS]

You must have weak comprehension abilities, because to every sane post of mine you respond with crap
and I quote
which makes the storyline of a **** movie look like ****ens
(c) gaz 2004

Besides, if you feel the need to insult people, at least do it with jokes you don't hear in kindergarten.

I chose what to say, not you.

I don't give a flying **** what you think about my comments, photos or posts, and I chose to reply to you or not. And how I do it is my faking business.

you seem to comment on my country well, but when i throw your **** back at you, what do you do?

Criticue me on my style of insults.

[Haiw]

Geez... you really have stone between your ears don't ya? First you can't even distinguish between different forum members and who says what, and second you lack the intellegence to even take part in a normal discussion... Not to mention your everlasting lack of common courtesy that's bound to make you a succesfull person in life. :roll:

[Truthsayer]

Any mods around to deal with this PermskiiOMON-character?

[Haiw]

Looks in crystal ball:

Predicted reply will be along these lines;


Oooh yeah go and cry to admin you Europussy !!

LOLOLOOLOLOLOLOL

You flame us but when we pay you back you go and cry to moderators huh?

rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl

bwahahahahah

you pussies you don't have it in you you faggots!!

[random picture of a crying child]

[RomanS]

Looks in crystal ball:

Predicted reply will be along these lines;


Oooh yeah go and cry to admin you Europussy !!

LOLOLOOLOLOLOLOL

You flame us but when we pay you back you go and cry to moderators huh?

rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl

bwahahahahah

you pussies you don't have it in you you faggots!!

[random picture of a crying child]

damn lol

this actually made me smile
lots of energy you have Haiw

[RomanS]

Any mods around to deal with this PermskiiOMON-character?
oh look, another photo and great information donor to this place showed up.

[Truthsayer]

Just because you post photos of crap from russia doesn't mean people will accept you when you are being an a**hole, or that you have recieved any 'post any crap I want'-card.


Get your facts straight and if you still want to argue about other countries equipment, do it in an tidly fasion.


Wasn't it you who whined when some users where bashing russian equipment? Guess it's so easy to forget when someone wants too...

[RomanS]

Just because you post photos of crap from russia doesn't mean people will accept you when you are being an a**hole, or that you have recieved any 'post any crap I want'-card.


Get your facts straight and if you still want to argue about other countries equipment, do it in an tidly fasion.


Wasn't it you who whined when some users where bashing russian equipment? Guess it's so easy to forget when someone wants too...

so its all my fault ?

[Marmot1]

DAMN NEXT MISSED FLAME WAR.... can I join?

[Truthsayer]

Just because you post photos of crap from russia doesn't mean people will accept you when you are being an a**hole, or that you have recieved any 'post any crap I want'-card.


Get your facts straight and if you still want to argue about other countries equipment, do it in an tidly fasion.


Wasn't it you who whined when some users where bashing russian equipment? Guess it's so easy to forget when someone wants too...

so its all my fault ?

In THIS thread, yes.

Regarding your thread, no idea - never saw it.

Bring it to the attension of the mods - don't ruin other posters thread as an general revenge.

[RomanS]

No but tell me something

When I or my other Russian friends post some photos, or information about Chechnya, we always ALWAYS get attacked.

Some say its a joke, some say its nothing serious. But every culture has their own humor understandings, so there is no room for jokes like .

Russia sucks etc.

Tell me why everytime our posts get this bull ****?

[ßå$tĮТHÏ¿ð]

No but tell me something

When I or my other Russian friends post some photos, or information about Chechnya, we always ALWAYS get attacked.

Some say its a joke, some say its nothing serious. But every culture has their own humor understandings, so there is no room for jokes like .

Russia sucks etc.

Tell me why everytime our posts get this bull ****?

Well you can always take the moral high ground and not respond to useless posts instead of doing it to others, this usually makes them look like the stupid ass they generally are.

[Steve Railsback]

Discussing on the Internet is like participating n the Special Olympics. If you win, you are still RETARDED!!!

[Truthsayer]

No but tell me something

When I or my other Russian friends post some photos, or information about Chechnya, we always ALWAYS get attacked.

Some say its a joke, some say its nothing serious. But every culture has their own humor understandings, so there is no room for jokes like .

Russia sucks etc.

Tell me why everytime our posts get this bull ****?

I have never posted anything and have never seen any of my fellow countrymen do it either (but ofcourse, someone might have, especially the immigrating finns ;) ) that could be considered bashing in any russian-pics thread.

However, you have posted in threads where I have posted on several occasions and only produced flames.

Should I now go on an revenge-crusade against you and other 'russians'?

[Dalleer]

Discussing on the Internet is like participating n the Special Olympics. If you win, you are still RETARDED!!!

Ain't that the truth, man, ain't that the truth...

[Kung_Scan]

hey, cool, the first pic of the artillery shootingis, the howitzer closest is my howitzer =), iam the loader there, etiher its me who sitting under the crane or standing down on the ground =)
we were there a couple of hours so we change place some times.
the guy with the bloody eye got in a fight.

http://www.armen.mil.se/photo.php?id=68876&nid=20580[/img]

[FinnishMF]

hey, cool, the first pic of the artillery shootingis, the howitzer closest is my howitzer =), iam the loader there, etiher its me who sitting under the crane or standing down on the ground =)
we were there a couple of hours so we change place some times.
the guy with the bloody eye got in a fight.

http://www.armen.mil.se/photo.php?id=68876&nid=20580[/img]

My own army times comes to my mind woot
http://www.janes.com/defence/land_forces/gallery/finland2003/images/battery.jpg
http://www.janes.com/defence/land_forces/gallery/finland2003/images/barrage1.jpg

[Kung_Scan]

ahh! nice to see fellow artillery men out there =)

[Kung_Scan]

ahh! nice to see fellow artillery men out there =)


Ultima ratiu Regum!(The final argument of kings)

[dumdidum]

Im also an artillerist... And I live in the city where the winter exercise took place...

[Kung_Scan]

ofan, äru på 5 eller 7 kompaniet?

[mustamato]

hey, cool, the first pic of the artillery shootingis, the howitzer closest is my howitzer =), iam the loader there, etiher its me who sitting under the crane or standing down on the ground =)
we were there a couple of hours so we change place some times.
the guy with the bloody eye got in a fight.

http://www.armen.mil.se/photo.php?id=68876&nid=20580[/img]

My own army times comes to my mind woot
http://www.janes.com/defence/land_forces/gallery/finland2003/images/battery.jpg
http://www.janes.com/defence/land_forces/gallery/finland2003/images/barrage1.jpg

Aaah Rovajärvi, here are some more from Rovajärvi back then in 2003
in case you haven´t seen them before (156 pictures), also some videos:

I like this one, 152 TelaK 91,

http://www.janes.com/defence/land_forces/gallery/finland2003/images/spg.jpg

http://www.janes.com/defence/land_forces/gallery/finland2003/images/spgrear.jpg

http://www.surfnet.fi/mil/images/details.php?image_id=305&mode=search
Video of the 152 TelaK 91 shooting

http://www.surfnet.fi/mil/images/details.php?image_id=169&mode=search
Video of the final shooting

http://www.janes.com/defence/land_forces/gallery/finland2003/finland2003_video.shtml
... the same final shooting but from Jane´s

Anyone that knows how I can save these videos to my computer?

[UkrainianAmerican]

Truthsayer, you are a fcuking nazi, so just shut the fcuk up.

[Dalleer]

[And now there's a completely new "M/05" equipment line being planned and constructed, wheew...

Which in my humble opinion it´s a failure already from the beginning, since it´s
not a "true combat BDU" like the m/62, but the m/05 (as the m/91) must be
beautiful as well, because it is also intended to be used by the soldiers on leave.
Well that´s nice, but it also makes them less useful out in the forest. And, m/05
in many ways feels lika a step backwards to me. I mean, it has ordinary buttons
instead of these press buttons and zippers just to save some lousy Euros. Sucky
sucky. Those big pockets would be perfect for a lots of things, as reloading the
assault rifle and putting the empty magazines there, works great when having
zippers, but not ordinary buttons.

But hm, the combat vest vill be a improvement I guess, and the camo is probably
more effective than the rather ugly m/91. But the design of the Swedish m/90
(and the Finnish m/91 which is basically the same **** but with different camo)
is great, loved it during my 10 months. Ordinary buttons is the suxxors.

You know, I agree with you yet again.

The only problem that the designers of these outfits seem to constantly forget is that in order to make a good BDU/leave outfit they are going to have to be two different sets of clothing.

And in my opinion the FDF is scrapping the whole M/91-line of equipment way too soon, and now already they're designing new boots and helmets, new field caps etc.

The funniest part is, that not all of the conscripts even get to wear the various M/91 clothing items, for an example the "field cap M/91" is not something that you'll see issued in Vekaranjärvi. Not to mention the horrible problem with the lack of composite helmets.

And then there's not enough M/91's to go around for "training exercises" and something needs to be done with the aging M/62's....

[Backis]

Yes it is. Only armed with a MG...

Could also be the epbv90 (forward observer variant)...

I actually think its the epbv90 since I can't see the antennas I've seen on the strilpbv?

[dumdidum]

ofan, äru på 5 eller 7 kompaniet?

5.komp artradarplut 01/02

[Kung_Scan]

oh, cool, now we dont have artradar, its station in A9 now, but next year i think it will be in Boden, then it will be four Fh77A or Fh77B and a platoon artradar, now we have six Fh77A.

[Thor]

Always remeber fellows that Russia was founded by swedes.. Even the name 'Russia' is of some swedish origin.

[Stavka]

Always remeber fellows that Russia was founded by swedes.. Even the name 'Russia' is of some swedish origin.

Oh no... Here we go again!
*Takes cover*

[Swedish_Marine]

This thread has gotten way off topic. I say close it down. It´s not going anywhere anyway.

[Russian Texan]

Always remeber fellows that Russia was founded by swedes.. Even the name 'Russia' is of some swedish origin.

Yeah, sure - that is why we are so much alike........
rofl
Russia was founded by Skifs.

[Marmot1]

hey, cool, the first pic of the artillery shootingis, the howitzer closest is my howitzer =), iam the loader there, etiher its me who sitting under the crane or standing down on the ground =)
we were there a couple of hours so we change place some times.
the guy with the bloody eye got in a fight.

http://www.armen.mil.se/photo.php?id=68876&nid=20580[/img]

My own army times comes to my mind woot
http://www.janes.com/defence/land_forces/gallery/finland2003/images/battery.jpg
http://www.janes.com/defence/land_forces/gallery/finland2003/images/barrage1.jpg

Aaah Rovajärvi, here are some more from Rovajärvi back then in 2003
in case you haven´t seen them before (156 pictures), also some videos:

I like this one, 152 TelaK 91,

http://www.janes.com/defence/land_forces/gallery/finland2003/images/spg.jpg

http://www.janes.com/defence/land_forces/gallery/finland2003/images/spgrear.jpg

http://www.surfnet.fi/mil/images/details.php?image_id=305&mode=search
Video of the 152 TelaK 91 shooting

http://www.surfnet.fi/mil/images/details.php?image_id=169&mode=search
Video of the final shooting

http://www.janes.com/defence/land_forces/gallery/finland2003/finland2003_video.shtml
... the same final shooting but from Jane´s

Anyone that knows how I can save these videos to my computer?
Right click and save as... It's how I did this :lol:

[Thor]

Always remeber fellows that Russia was founded by swedes.. Even the name 'Russia' is of some swedish origin.

Yeah, sure - that is why we are so much alike........
rofl
Russia was founded by Skifs.

Don't they have schools in Russia?

http://www.visitrussia.com/guide/history.htm
http://www.luth.se/luth/present/sweden/history/viking_age/Viking_age4.html

[mustamato]

hey, cool, the first pic of the artillery shootingis, the howitzer closest is my howitzer =), iam the loader there, etiher its me who sitting under the crane or standing down on the ground =)
we were there a couple of hours so we change place some times.
the guy with the bloody eye got in a fight.

http://www.armen.mil.se/photo.php?id=68876&nid=20580[/img]

My own army times comes to my mind woot
http://www.janes.com/defence/land_forces/gallery/finland2003/images/battery.jpg
http://www.janes.com/defence/land_forces/gallery/finland2003/images/barrage1.jpg

Aaah Rovajärvi, here are some more from Rovajärvi back then in 2003
in case you haven´t seen them before (156 pictures), also some videos:

I like this one, 152 TelaK 91,

http://www.janes.com/defence/land_forces/gallery/finland2003/images/spg.jpg

http://www.janes.com/defence/land_forces/gallery/finland2003/images/spgrear.jpg

http://www.surfnet.fi/mil/images/details.php?image_id=305&mode=search
Video of the 152 TelaK 91 shooting

http://www.surfnet.fi/mil/images/details.php?image_id=169&mode=search
Video of the final shooting

http://www.janes.com/defence/land_forces/gallery/finland2003/finland2003_video.shtml
... the same final shooting but from Jane´s

Anyone that knows how I can save these videos to my computer?
Right click and save as... It's how I did this :lol:

Yes, but it doesn´t work on that great video from Jane´s. Can you save that?
And if so, how do you do it? Really wonderfull video.




Always remeber fellows that Russia was founded by swedes.. Even the name 'Russia' is of some swedish origin.

Yeah, sure - that is why we are so much alike........
rofl
Russia was founded by Skifs.

Don't they have schools in Russia?

http://www.visitrussia.com/guide/history.htm
http://www.luth.se/luth/present/sweden/history/viking_age/Viking_age4.html

That´s a much disputed question, in example Sweden in Finnish is Ruotsi, could
be connected to Roslagen (in the Stockholm area) or Rossija. Perhaps perhaps,
but Russian Texan is probably to stupid to admit it even if he believes us. But
one things for sure, he doesn´t know the answer himself either.

[Truthsayer]

Truthsayer, you are a fcuking nazi, so just shut the fcuk up.

ROFL - the MENSA-member has spoken.

[Russian Texan]

Always remeber fellows that Russia was founded by swedes.. Even the name 'Russia' is of some swedish origin.

Yeah, sure - that is why we are so much alike........
rofl
Russia was founded by Skifs.

Don't they have schools in Russia?

http://www.visitrussia.com/guide/history.htm
http://www.luth.se/luth/present/sweden/history/viking_age/Viking_age4.html

Yes they do, and apparently better ones than in Sweden ;)

Quote from your source:

According to the legend, in the early part of the 9th century Scandinavian people known as the Varangians crossed the Baltic Sea and landed in Eastern Europe.

According to the legend......

So who lived there before "according to the legend", before 9 th century A.D.?
Do you know?
I do.
1000 years B.C., Eastern Europe, as well as Eastern, Southern Russia and parts of central Russia were populated by "Skifs", also known as "Arians" and "Skoloty".
Since you like and trust legends so much, I suggest you look up Hercules's adventures.
According to the legend Hercules got his bow from the Skif named Tevtar, who also taught him how to shoot it.
Vikings involvement into Russian history is well known but they came into land already populated by skifs/arians/skolots or people later named slavs...
May I also suggest you do not use "travel guides" as a historical referrence...

[mustamato]

Russian T, name one country in the world that has got its name after the
first population living there.

[Russian Texan]

but Russian Texan is probably to stupid to admit it even if he believes us. But
one things for sure, he doesn´t know the answer himself either.
So, masturbato, what happened to answering my questions from that "video thread"? Why do you always run away?
Don't you have any dignity at all? How about guts and character to admit that you are wrong?
Btw, a smart person would never say that he is smart and call someone stupid...

[Russian Texan]

Russian T, name one country in the world that has got its name after the
first population living there.

What this has to do with it?

[mustamato]

Russian T, name one country in the world that has got its name after the
first population living there.

What this has to do with it?

Exactly, what has your claim that there were people there before the vikings
came got to do with anything? As you may know (but probably just ignore)
is that your beloved Rossija of course comes from something with "Ros", not those
other nations you mentioned.

And tadaa, how did this Ros come to power and how did they become so powerfull,
and more interestingly, why did it happen in the same region where the vikings
had the power and not down in Ukraine or east of the Ural mountains or whatever?

Your knowledge in history is poor, and since not even the professors really know,
but just speculate about the Roslagen - Ruotsi - Rossija-connection, I don´t feel
any need to debate this with you, you live in your little paradigm and whatever
I say you will still believe in yourself and no one else.

[Russian Texan]

[quote=masturbato]Russian T, name one country in the world that has got its name after the
first population living there.

What this has to do with it?

Exactly, what has your claim that there were people there before the vikings came got to do with anything?
I don't know...what does the fact that Americas were already populated before Columbus discovered them has to do with the course of history? It is an analogy in case you didn't get it.

As you may know (but probably just ignore)
is that your beloved Rossija of course comes from something with "Ros", not those
other nations you mentioned.
Yes, I know that, so?

And tadaa, how did this Ros come to power and how did they become so powerfull,
He was invited by the local slavic tribes to take charge of them.
and more interestingly, why did it happen in the same region where the vikings
had the power and not down in Ukraine or east of the Ural mountains or whatever?
Because those tribes who invited vikings lived there...?


Your knowledge in history is poor, and since not even the professors really know,
So if they don't know, how do you know?

but just speculate about the Roslagen - Ruotsi - Rossija-connection, I don´t feel
any need to debate this with you, you live in your little paradigm
Did you know the word "paradigm" or did you have to look it up?
[ /quote]

Let me simplify and put it in perspectiuve for you:
Imagine Russia invades Sweden and completely takes over the country: destroys cultural heritage, forbids native language, installs pupet government, in short - completely russifies the country...

In three thousand years, people will look at Russden(former Sweden) and will think: what are the origins of that country - Russian or Swedish?...
Do you get my point?

[Truthsayer]

They can't have good schools in russian or the US when members here always mis-quote the names of forum-members they are arguing with.

[Russian Texan]

They can't have good schools in russian or the US when members here always mis-quote the names of forum-members they are arguing with.
#1 I am not arguing, I am educating ;)

#2 Not real quick on pick up, are you? :)

[Truthsayer]

If arguing == being retarded about other forum-posters names, then ok, I'm quick on the pickup.

But it's still childish as hell.



I'm still waiting for a MOD to clear this thread of this bull**** 'some' users has dragged in from a 'special region'. This part of the forum is dedicated to photos and videos, nothing else.

[mustamato]

Did you know the word "paradigm" or did you have to look it up?

Oh, but I hear that you had to look it up. :D I´m sorry, just a word historians
like to use you know. To make it simple for you it can be translated to "world
understanding", obviously (luckily) you and I are living in different paradigms.

You know, in the middle ages they were living in a very religious paradigm,
thus everything was squeezed in to this explanation. The plague etc could
be explained with religion. If you imagine a paradigm as a bubble. More and more
explanations are squeezed in. And then came the renaissance with Copernicus
and these chaps that came up with all this that was impossible to squeeze in to the
bubble. The bubble bursted.

So will yours one day. All that idiocy that you squeeze in there, and when it
burst you will hopefully do something drastic with your life. If you do not do what
Russians usually do, seek help deep down in the vodka bottle, maybe you´ll even learn
something and become a good laddy. There is still hope for you.

[Russian Texan]

If arguing == being retarded about other forum-posters names, then ok, I'm quick on the pickup.

But it's still childish as hell.
But it is also fun.

Darling, I have so much "maturity" in my everyday life that sometimes it is good and healthy for me to be immature, trust me...



I'm still waiting for a MOD to clear this thread of this bull**** 'some' users has dragged in from a 'special region'. This part of the forum is dedicated to photos and videos, nothing else.
So where are yours?

[Russian Texan]

Did you know the word "paradigm" or did you have to look it up?

Oh, but I hear that you had to look it up. :D I´m sorry, just a word historians
like to use you know. To make it simple for you it can be translated to "world
understanding", obviously (luckily) you and I are living in different paradigms.

You know, in the middle ages they were living in a very religious paradigm,
thus everything was squeezed in to this explanation. The plague etc could
be explained with religion. If you imagine a paradigm as a bubble. More and more
explanations are squeezed in. And then came the renaissance with Copernicus
and these chaps that came up with all this that was impossible to squeeze in to the
bubble. The bubble bursted.

So will yours one day. All that idiocy that you squeeze in there, and when it
burst you will hopefully do something drastic with your life. If you do not do what
Russians usually do, seek help deep down in the vodka bottle, maybe you´ll even learn
something and become a good laddy. There is still hope for you.

Give up so quickly and easily?
Masturbato, there is a name for the people like you - demagogue, look it up...

[mustamato]

masturbato :roll:

I think that says more about you laddy than it says about me.

[Russian Texan]

masturbato :roll:


Well, you are a "university student in Festung, Europa", what else do you have to do? rofl