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ariweiner
03-22-2004, 08:02 PM
Report: U.S. Helped Qatar Nab Russians

1 hour, 2 minutes ago


By VLADIMIR ISACHENKOV, Associated Press Writer

MOSCOW - The United States assisted Qatar's special services in the arrests of Russian secret agents on charges of killing a Chechen separatist leader, a top U.S. diplomat said in an interview published Monday.



Deputy Assistant Secretary of State Steven Pifer, who was in Moscow for talks with Russian officials, told the daily Vremya Novostei that the United States provided "very insignificant technical assistance" to the Qataris in the February arrests of the Russian intelligence agents.

A U.S. Embassy spokesman said the United States sent a small team of explosives experts to Doha, the Qatari capital, at Qatar's request.

"We send many such teams in response to requests from governments," the embassy official said, speaking on condition of anonymity. "The experts played no role in the arrest or investigation of any suspects."

State Department spokesman Richard Boucher declined to comment.

Three Russian intelligence agents were arrested in Doha after the killing of Zelimkhan Yandarbiyev, the former separatist president of Chechnya (news - web sites). Yandarbiyev died Feb. 13 when a bomb went off in his car.

One of the agents, whom Moscow calls "embassy employees," has been released, but the two others remain in custody. The Russian Foreign Ministry has denied that the intelligence agents had anything to do with Yandarbiyev's killing and demanded their release.

Moscow warned that a refusal to free the Russian agents would badly hurt relations with the Persian Gulf nation, and Russian officials last month detained two Qatari wrestlers who were passing through Moscow. The Russian authorities have refused to comment on their detention.

Yandarbiyev had lived in Qatar since 2000 and Moscow had sought his extradition on charges of terrorism and links to al-Qaida. President Vladimir Putin (news - web sites) claimed last fall that U.S. representatives had met with Yandarbiyev.

Pifer denied that claim in the interview published Monday, saying that U.S. officials had no contacts with Yandarbiyev last year.

The United Nations (news - web sites) put Yandarbiyev last year on a list of people with alleged links to al-Qaida. Washington also put him on a list of international terrorists subject to financial sanctions.

George W. Bush
03-22-2004, 08:22 PM
Totally understandable. They were just lending a hand to an ally.

RomanS
03-22-2004, 08:36 PM
ANOTHER GREAT THREAD !

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MetalBoy
03-22-2004, 08:52 PM
When was the last time you added value to a discussion Permskii. Your posts tend to sap the lifeblood of intelligent topics dry.

RomanS
03-22-2004, 08:53 PM
When was the last time you added intelligence to a discussion Permskii. Your posts tend to sap the lifeblood of intelligent topics dry.

thats how most of the posts start here. With dry intelligent topics, in example like this one.

wholagun
03-22-2004, 09:01 PM
right pokemon and your post about Russian brother we can take over the world with our huge almighty powerful army treads are not of the same nature? :roll:
suppose next your gonna say that Russian army is so powerful that you can walk up to the gates of heaven and take that place over as well, or wait better yet nuke it.

RomanS
03-22-2004, 09:02 PM
right pokemon and your post about Russian brother we can take over the world with our huge almighty powerful army treads are not of the same nature? :roll:
suppose next your gonna say that Russian army is so powerful that you can walk up to the gates of heaven and take that place over as well, or wait better yet nuke it.

see here you go with the religion again

Marmot1
03-22-2004, 09:08 PM
right pokemon and your post about Russian brother we can take over the world with our huge almighty powerful army treads are not of the same nature? :roll:
suppose next your gonna say that Russian army is so powerful that you can walk up to the gates of heaven and take that place over as well, or wait better yet nuke it. rofl rofl rofl

Lobo
03-22-2004, 09:58 PM
you can walk up to the gates of heaven and take that place over as well

That sentences reminded me another one. Spain started the Napoleonic wars being a French ally and send two divisions to Denmark. There prince Bernardotte was so impressed by Spanish soldiers' bravery that took some of them as his personal guard and say: "With soldiers like this I would be able to go into the hell, and kick out the devil of his own throne".

fdt
03-23-2004, 02:35 AM
you can walk up to the gates of heaven and take that place over as well

That sentences reminded me another one. Spain started the Napoleonic wars being a French ally and send two divisions to Denmark. There prince Bernardotte was so impressed by Spanish soldiers' bravery that took some of them as his personal guard and say: "With soldiers like this I would be able to go into the hell, and kick out the devil of his own throne".And then he became a king of Sweden... rofl

Kingpin
03-23-2004, 02:52 AM
Circus came to town...

Voila!

Роман, как насчет написать что-нибудь полезное в защиту наших мужиков или промолчать вообще? Уж наверно ты английский получше меня знаешь.

"War on terror" is a slogan not the agenda. Thanks to US for very valuable help in dealing with terrorist enlisted by UN. Anyway i'm still sure that our people are not connected with Yandarbiev assasination.

Sergei
03-25-2004, 10:22 AM
I think those men are undergoing tortures. This is Middle ages kingdom we are talking about. No chance for a fair trial.

Putin's next smart move would be to do something to save his countrymen.

radon
03-25-2004, 10:26 AM
And then he became a king of Sweden... rofl

Sweden was once more powerful than it is today :slap:

Sergei
03-25-2004, 10:26 AM
Totally understandable. They were just lending a hand to an ally.
Which ally? :cantbeli:
You call that accidental piece of land your ally? Ahh, I know, there is oil there and Dubya loves oil. He loves killing too. :D


P.S. I hope the men are released soon, otherwise Qatar is history.

Argyll
03-25-2004, 11:32 AM
Totally understandable. They were just lending a hand to an ally.
Which ally? :cantbeli:
You call that accidental piece of land your ally? Ahh, I know, there is oil there and Dubya loves oil. He loves killing too. :D


P.S. I hope the men are released soon, otherwise Qatar is history.



Another well thought out rational post!!...........not!

What are you going to do to Quatar.............drink it to death? ;)

16 OBr SpN
03-25-2004, 12:23 PM
Of course, nothing is going to happen! We're not going to start a war over this!

The government of Qatar had stated the third guy who had a diplomatic passport as a persona non-grata. I think he's already back in Moscow.

As for the "technical help" of Americans, it went beyond just explosives expertise.
If Qataris got our guys that fast there are two options in my head: 1) they got the wrong people; 2) someone passed the info.

When the media published the description of ridiculous "facts" which lead to arrest of those guys, I started questionning this whole thing even more. Those kinds of operations are not done by amateurs, and by the Qatari description, it was as if those guys were regular street gangsters (talking on the cellphone, renting a car, etc.). It's all bull****.

Regards,
16 OBr SpN

TALOS
03-25-2004, 12:40 PM
Totally understandable. They were just lending a hand to an ally.
Which ally? :cantbeli:
You call that accidental piece of land your ally? Ahh, I know, there is oil there and Dubya loves oil. He loves killing too. :D


P.S. I hope the men are released soon, otherwise Qatar is history.

Why do people keep with all that horse pucky about oil? stick with the topics, please. Dont turn this into another "US devils sniff oil in poor innocents back yard and ruthlessly rapes their goldfish to get it" type posts.
This is about a criminal investigation (even if he was a terrorist and therefore deserves no sympathy they have to investigate) not whether the US is trying to take over Qatar

StukaJr
03-25-2004, 03:24 PM
Yandarbiyev had lived in Qatar since 2000 and Moscow had sought his extradition on charges of terrorism and links to al-Qaida. President Vladimir Putin (news - web sites) claimed last fall that U.S. representatives had met with Yandarbiyev.

Well - that's obviously the most important statement one can make - "terrorists are not safe anywhere and offering safe heaven to terrorists has historically lead to covert operations to forcefuly extradite/eliminate these terrorists". Imagine Bin Laden living openly under the "political protection" 3 years or so from now - not going to happen.

As for the arrests - it does sound fishy and in my opinion - they haven't gotten the trigger men. I'm not aware of any western/russian "rub out" operation when the assassins were hanging around the country weeks after the successful hit...