Soviet/russian guns you want to see the most in Airsoft

[StukaJr]

This is to add to PermskiiOmon's post, but with purty graphics and a Poll :)
Of course, I had to shorten the list quite a bit, as the forum would allow
for so many Poll Options :)

AN-94 Abakan

http://www.warfare.ru/0702ey70/pictures/abakan2.jpg

AKM (minus the bayonette, of course)

http://kalashnikov.guns.ru/images/076.jpg

AK-74M

http://kalashnikov.guns.ru/images/104-1.jpg

AKS-74U

http://kalashnikov.guns.ru/images/114-2.jpg

AK-104

http://kalashnikov.guns.ru/images/1041.gif

PKM

http://kalashnikov.guns.ru/images/158.jpg

Bizon

http://www.warfare.ru/0702ey70/pictures/bizon1.gif

Groza

http://www.warfare.ru/0702ey70/pictures/97-2.jpg

SVD

http://www.warfare.ru/0702ey70/pictures/svd.gif

SVDS

http://www.warfare.ru/0702ey70/pictures/svds.gif

VSS Vintorez

http://naoruzanje.paracin.co.yu/vss2.jpg

[MVSpartan117]

VSS! woot

[flickme]

PKM!!!!!!

[MVSpartan117]

BOTH! :D

[MVSpartan117]

The AN-94 would be interesting, it would be incredibley cool if the recoiling barrel could be intergrated!

[StukaJr]

Recoil barrel design? Don't you need a recoil in order for the recoil mechanism to work? :lol: You get something better - recoiless AEG woot

[MVSpartan117]

Recoil barrel design? Don't you need a recoil in order for the recoil mechanism to work? :lol: You get something better - recoiless AEG woot

I'm not stupid........ It could be operated by the motor in some way

[StukaJr]

Lol - not implying that you are... However, I'm not particulary sure at the usefulness of the moving barrel, other than highly complicating the design and increasing the cost... Also, the parts for the moving barrel have to compete with the space that's otherwise taken by the gearbox/hopup unit

[MVSpartan117]

Yes it would be rediculously (sp?) complicated and not practical but it would be cool. It's would only serve to add effect.

[Ratamacue]

I'd like to see an AK-104 myself...

[Jacko]

Someone in MI actually did make a Bizon, using the short 250 round AK hi-cap and some tubing.

[MVSpartan117]

Heres a custom AK-103,
But this has nothing to with topic, sorry

http://www.arniesairsoft.co.uk/beta/html/modules/coppermine/albums/userpics/11190/ak103m2.jpg

http://www.arniesairsoft.co.uk/beta/html/modules/coppermine/albums/userpics/11190/ak103_4.jpg

http://www.arniesairsoft.co.uk/beta/html/modules/coppermine/albums/userpics/11190/ak103_5.jpg

[StukaJr]

Nah - it's all good - is that yours?

I guess if only someone made an AK74 proper receiver - a lot more variations could have been possible :) Absense of correct receiver stopped me from getting airsoft AK and building conversions.

And those Smokey AK74 conversion kits are impossible to find

[MVSpartan117]

No it's not mine

[StukaJr]

I guess any functionality of a real steel converted to airsoft is cool (minus firing real bullets of course) - from field stripping to moving parts...

However, best functionality of AK74 to be replicated in Airsoft - ability to drop it out of a moving car, getting it ran over by a bus, picked up and fired - that's something that airsoft AK should do :)

[MVSpartan117]

I guess any functionality of a real steel converted to airsoft is cool (minus firing real bullets of course) - from field stripping to moving parts...

However, best functionality of AK74 to be replicated in Airsoft - ability to drop it out of a moving car, getting it ran over by a bus, picked up and fired - that's something that airsoft AK should do :)

I wish ;)

[StukaJr]

I'm a dreamer woot

[intelligenzija]

Do you know already the Junker air guns? http://www.izhmash.udm.ru/arms/junker.html

[ßå$tĮТHÏ¿ð]

Theres already been designs and ways to modify your guns to be the majority of the guns on the list. More interesting and different the better, definately love the Ak103 though. Throw on those new "Star" mags that look like the 74 mags instead of the 47 mags.

Theres alot you can do with an Ak but of course any sorta customizations, involve the dremmel or someone how can handle one.

[Dalleer]

I'd say PKM, because with that I could complete my Finnish army LMG-team look!

[lt_poncho]

Make conversion kits for Tokyo Marui - best way to go.

[StukaJr]

I'm well aware of Junkers air rifles - however, those are pellet rifles and shoot metal bb's at 3 Joules and have that fugly pistol grip.

I'm also aware of Trapper Industries and the airsoft guns they are producing made from demilled ex-warsaw pact weapons, including ONYX and RPK. They also take forementioned Junker air rifles and turn them into airsoft springers.

As for other airsoft conversions - no manufacturer makes stamped AK receiver that is used on all AK's since AKM's and on - using original milled receiver makes every AK look like a chineese or eastern block knock-off. Smokey's made full AK74, AKM and AKSU-74 conversion kits for TM AK47 but they were limited release and rather impossible to find. Otherwise, at the price of $600-$700 plus quite some labor and shopping around you can get any AK modification minus the correct receiver - maybe I'm being too picky :)

[lt_poncho]

You're confusing MODEL MAKING with Airsoft. Stamped receiver's are great for hanging on the wall/conversation pieces - but who cares in the field? Really - who give's a flying freak?

[king_nothing100]

Personally my choices would be: Mosin Nagant 1891/30, SVT-40, and Simonov SKS.

[StukaJr]

You're confusing MODEL MAKING with Airsoft. Stamped receiver's are great for hanging on the wall/conversation pieces - but who cares in the field? Really - who give's a flying freak?
The looks, bro - the looks :)

Stamped and milled receivers look very different - so just by looking at two receivers you may spot the differences - you may not give a flying freak but then some people do. Thanks for your input though, it's highly appreciated. As for airsoft - some people go for the "trigger time", some people go the mil-sim way - to each their own, both ways should be catered to...

[lt_poncho]

Looks don't have much to do with MilSim. If it goes bang when you pull the trigger then it's good enough for MilSim. To get anal about technical details of stamped receivers is just detracting from the game.

Of course - if you're a staging area-aholic who likes getting all posed up for photoshoot-a-thon's and talking like they just got out of a coma about the authenticity of their stamped/milled receivers then hey - this is important ****! It's all about being better than the other guy.

Real soldiers don't seem to care about stuff like that. To them if the gun works when they use it, they seem to be quite content, and worry about other things like the guy trying to kill them, regardless of the marking on their gun.

[StukaJr]

Thanks for expressing your opinion :|

[lt_poncho]

Thanks for expressing your opinion :|

I take it you don't agree with my perspective on Airsoft and MilSim. I'm guessing you figure I haven't a clue what I am talking about, right?

[MVSpartan117]

Thanks for expressing your opinion :|

I take it you don't agree with my perspective on Airsoft and MilSim. I'm guessing you figure I haven't a clue what I am talking about, right?

no need to be a smart ass :bash:

[StukaJr]

I take it you don't agree with my perspective on Airsoft and MilSim. I'm guessing you figure I haven't a clue what I am talking about, right?

Well, you are obviously very opinionated and feel the need to resort to name calling and belittling attention to detail, proper replication of equipment and looking the part - some airsoft entusiasts partake in the sport as part of re-enactment and happen to take it very seriously. I've asked for people's desire to see certain exotic russian firearms replicated in airsoft - I'm well aware of airsoft market and while your vote counts, your attitude doesn't.

Once again - thanks for expressing your opinion but please don't highjack this thread

[catchv22]

Very well said.

[lt_poncho]

Name calling? What, are you making this up as you go along? Why did you have to reply like that? Based on your replies like 'thanks for the opinion' and the smiley I don't think you understand what I was talking about with regards to MilSim.

Far as I am concerned - MilSim is whatever you fancy, buddy. If you want me to start this so called name calling resort I think the word censor will kick in to the point where it's ineligible.

Sorry I really don't believe you are 'well aware' of the current airsoft market. But whatever horse kick to the/bump on the head/bathroom sink accident/coma dream you had that drew up all this market knowledge for you must have drawn you to advertise here of all places. I've seen enough airsoft related marketing polls and mass interest captures on dboard threads to realize that those types who post them would be quite dangerous with a brain.
(There's being a smart ass, MVSpartan117 - learn the freakkin difference.)

If this were the case in this Disney-esque world then manufacturers like Tokyo Marui, Western Arms and others would have to have public vote-a-thons for the next model to market. Keep telling yourself, StukaJr - you are the smartest person. You are a NICE person. You LIKE yourself. And golly gee - you're swell too.

Don't like my attitude? Too bad. It's not on trial here. If you don't want to listen to criticizm then just don't post. If you're so anal in your authenticity then who gives a **** about what others think? Just go it your own. Unless you're just looking for pats on the head/back for the ideas...

There's no smiley's for boot to the heads...

[anonymous individual]

Can you guys stop the flaming?

[lt_poncho]

Can you guys stop the flaming?

I'm done.

[SeanR]

Seriously, back on the topic..."The VSS is the sweetest **** ever!!!"

[SR15]

is it me? or abakan uglyest gun ever. :bash:
and Vintorez kicks ass woot

[StukaJr]

Can you guys stop the flaming?

I'm done.

Geez - thanks :)

[StukaJr]

double post :bash:

[Milkman]

I would like to see a Bizon made. Think of all the bbs that could be stored in those cylindrical tubes....

But what about pistols? I havnt seen anyone make a Markarov or a Tokarev.

[StukaJr]

Hudson Made TT 1933 about 3 years ago - performance left to be desired as most Hudson guns. Also, if I remember correctly - the gun was produced both black and chrome versions - neither of which were representative of the real rough steel finish of the reall TT's.

real kicker pistols would be APS and APSB - to add to the full-auto large frame pistol line up woot

[Milkman]

Yes I remember the Tokarev now, but the Markarov deserves to be made too.

[Bulkowski]

I'd be content with a PKM or AK74, if I had enough for the PKM of course ;)

[Crazy_Ivan]

As far as i know You can buy AKS-74U and SWD ( it's not SVD - it's Snajpierskaja Wintowka Dragunowa ) in airsoft version already

[bloddyaxe]

Theoritically you can also make yourself a pretty nice AK-74 or even a AK-74M.
Guarder makes pretty nice conversions for Tokyo Marui AK 47
Which can be seen on latter part of this page.
http://www.airsoftextreme.com/upgrades/akp90.html
and to finish some 5,45mm magazines.
http://www.redwolfairsoft.com/redwolf/airsoft/Category?menu1=13&menu2=681#14082

So if you already have a TM-AK47 it is rather simple. It is just (far too) expensive.

[StukaJr]

If only someone made proper receiver - AK quiestion would be put to rest.

Doesn't anybody read anymore?

[Yager]

pkm .....shot the real steel and it was very cool...

[TacoDelRio]

I'd like a PKM, probably with a Tokyo Marui AK gearbox, upgraded etc etc etc.

I think my ultimate Russian AEG would be:

AK-74M, AKSU-type side folding stock, wood furniture on foreend, Kobra sight (as a backup), GP30 Grenade Projector, and upgraded, all metal, real wood, and a large enough battery to really wring the thing out.

Anyone with me on this? It would make an AWESOME gun for both woodland/CQB, with the folding stock. A large battery could go SOMEWHERE...

Other than that, probably just a plain-jane AK74, made with super-durability in mind. My TM AK47S fell apart even though it was made of metal. Damn allen screws were always loose, even with loc-Tite.

DB p-)

[The Clip]

The Pic with AK-74M is not correct, where is the ****ing compensator. V important :bash: :bash: BTW that custom AK-103 very nice. Looks well taken care of with custom GP-30 grip.

[The Clip]

Skorotsnoy, your talking about skeleton stock. My 5.45 AK-74M has synthetic stock which is the one where is is all filled in. Disadvantage of the skeleton is there is no cleaning kit placement unlike the synthetic. BTW what color mags will you like to have out of ones I have seen throughout me service, dark red, orange(my fav) or black????? I dont like wooden furniture because plastic is lighter and looks better also 74M is th only rifle which can do everything including GP-30, optic and baynet.

[RomanS]

Everyone please ignore the liar.
the CLIP must be now ignored.

He can't answer simple questions about his service, and he feeds on our replies to him.

From now on, I ask all of you to ignore him and he will go away on his own.

Thank you

[The Clip]

Go home you fool :bash: rofl :-*$ I am not a liar I answerd you question, i would appreciate if you would ask it again!!!

[MVSpartan117]

Everyone please ignore the liar.
the CLIP must be now ignored.

He can't answer simple questions about his service, and he feeds on our replies to him.

From now on, I ask all of you to ignore him and he will go away on his own.

Thank you


Yes master....... :lol:

[TacoDelRio]

In that case...

*****... (you know the game)

[Rnagerrick]

Okay folks. first off we need a mackarov. For almost any nationality you can find a suitable sidearm, but the USSR/Russia. Secondly any one have any pics of a current russian platoon, or something. I think its best to try to achieve whats feasable, and realistic. Keeping it basic.

[intelligenzija]

permskiy, do you know where the russian airsoft teams get their airsoft guns? And is there a official article that says that Russia will join the airsoft production?

[The Clip]

Why airsoft, use Sub-caliber paintballs!!! velocity of bullet but harmlessness of normal paintball. Hurts very much!! Bruses last from 2-3 weeks rofl

[TacoDelRio]

WTF?

"The Clip"'s speaking and breeding rights have been suspended for the next 480 years. :bash: :fork: :-*$ :slap: :cantbeli: :backhand:

I'd settle for an upgraded AK74. WITH AK74 mags, not 47' mags.

Bye son/s.

DB

[Stan the Gun man]

The russian SAG guns i would like the most are

1. PKM!
2. A GBB Makarov, and a silencer for it!
3. PPsh-41!!!! Would really make my day!
4. SVD-98. A real russian sniper rifle.
5.RPD, great Vietnam/cold era support ass kicker!
6.Ak-105!!

And of course an Akm-74M.

Oh, My current favorit is my My all steel and wood kited Ak-47 with a boomarms Gp-25 launcer. My Next projekt is to fit a PSB-1 silencer and alonger inner barrel together with a PSN-3 Night sight to my other Ak 47. And of course its all metal and wood woot !

Just love russian weapons! :D