Boots Boots Boots... 62 boot threads in one [Archive] - Page 2

RGRBOX

07-08-2006, 08:35 AM

Slater

07-08-2006, 10:50 AM

From Defenselink:

Wellco Enterprises, Inc.,Waynesville, N.C.,* is being awarded a maximum $19,947,973 fixed-price with economic price adjustment contract for infantry combat boots. The using services are Army and Air Force. Other locations of performance are in Puerto Rico. This is an indefinite-delivery/quantity-type five-year contract exercising option year three. There were 70 proposals solicited and three responded. Contract funds will not expire at the end of the current fiscal year. The date of performance completion is July 9, 2007. Contracting activity is DSCP, Philadelphia, Pa. (SPO100-03-D-0320).

Wolverine World Wide, Rockford, Mich., is being awarded a maximum $20,763,841 fixed-price with economic price adjustment contract for infantry combat boots. The using services are Army and Air Force. Other locations of performance are in Arkansas. This is an indefinite-delivery/quantity-type five-year contract exercising option year four. There were 70 proposals solicited and nine responded. Contract funds will not expire at the end of the current fiscal year. The date of performance completion is July 9, 2007. Contracting activity is DSCP, Philadelphia, Pa. (SPO100-03-D-0321).

Belleville Shoe Mfg. Co. *, Belleville, Ill., is being awarded a maximum $19,861,853 fixed-price with economic price adjustment contract for infantry combat boots. The using services are Army and Air Force. Other locations of performance are in Arkansas. This is an indefinite-delivery/quantity-type five-year contract exercising option year three. There were 70 proposals solicited and nine responded. Contract funds will not expire at the end of the current fiscal year. The date of performance completion is July 9, 2007. Contracting activity is DSCP, Philadelphia, Pa. (SPO100-03-D-0322).

I knew that Belleville and Wellco were established sources, but is Wolverine a recent entrant into this market?

Howitz

07-08-2006, 11:02 AM

Wolverine owns Bates, so not really.

Boina verde

07-08-2006, 11:03 AM

You don't have a diferent beret?

RGRBOX

07-08-2006, 03:31 PM

You don't have a diferent beret?

They gave the Black Beret to the legs in the Army.. and the Rgrs changed to the Khaki (Sand Color) Beret..

OMON

07-08-2006, 04:54 PM

I've seen some of those American made boots.
Don't like it. Is stick to the German made boots like
Meindl or hanwag.

Thanks for all the info

MEINDL !!!!!!!!

Tamir

07-08-2006, 05:48 PM

Do meindl have a different site listing their army model? I can find this boot on their site http://www.meindl.de

buckeyedoc

07-08-2006, 10:43 PM

I still have my original pair, that are a half size too small now.. anyway, you can pretty much kiss them goodbye... the change in uniforms witht he ACUs, and the Drees Blues will probably mean the end to wearing them.. I hope it doesn't but you the way the people up top are working to try to get rid of the spcial in the look of the US jump status units will probably spell the end.. first the beret, and now this...

Still have mine too. Loved them. When the Army was talking about new dress uniforms, I was hoping they would bring back the WWII era style uniforms. I would like to see the brown Corcorans back in service. Oh well. I did buy a pair of Corcoran Maurader boots and loved them. They were the most comfortable boot I've owned.

http://www.shoestoboot.com/images/cove/corcoran/17146_257.jpg

ZaakM433

07-08-2006, 11:17 PM

I didnt know that Wolverine owns Bates, did they acquire them recently? Ive noticed that the shoes and boots marketed as Wolverine have been changing their image lately.

Roaming East

07-08-2006, 11:23 PM

Owned a pair of mauraders back in tech, didnt like the cut of them on my feet and went back to standard Jungles.

buckeyedoc

07-08-2006, 11:32 PM

Owned a pair of mauraders back in tech, didnt like the cut of them on my feet and went back to standard Jungles.

I have wider feet, so they fit me great. I never wore them in the field. I wore the Matterhorns for that.

RGRBOX

07-09-2006, 06:35 AM

Yeah... I never did the Jump Boots in the field thing.. I did make two jumps in them.. with the C47 SGM Jumps at Bragg..

maple.leaf

07-09-2006, 07:28 AM

Jumping in Corcorans? June 6, 2004 - Ranville DZ, Normandy.

n4292936

07-09-2006, 08:41 AM

I'm looking for boots like this:
http://www.nexternal.com/armynavy/images/4900.gif

I want those types because of the way the tread runs up the front of the toes like running shose doe, instead of the more rounded boot sole as you find on most military boots and crosstrainers.

I need a tan colour but can't use these because they don't look enough like the issue ones in Aus.
Suggestions anyone? The proposed sticky I mentioned in another post would make things like this easier I think....

Greek soldier

07-09-2006, 09:12 AM

From a previous thread (Corcoran boots):

http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/showthread.php?p=1765352#post1765352

And an on-line store, with various Corcoran boots:

http://www.shoestoboot.com/category.cfm/172

RGRBOX

07-09-2006, 09:58 AM

Jumping in Corcorans? June 6, 2004 - Ranville DZ, Normandy.

Really nice.. is this you in the photo?

maple.leaf

07-09-2006, 04:55 PM

Really nice.. is this you in the photo?

Yup. Here's a few more pics from the jump to whet your appetite. And if you're interested, there's a whole lot more here: http://groups.msn.com/WWIIAirborneCommemorativeEvents

Former Gold Falcon

07-09-2006, 05:08 PM

Yup. Here's a few more pics from the jump to whet your appetite. And if you're interested, there's a whole lot more here: http://groups.msn.com/WWIIAirborneCommemorativeEvents

Very Cool shots!

I admit to being rather envious.

How does jumping out of the Dakota compare to 130s, 141s, 17s etc?

Thanks for sharing these.

T.

P.S. Never really carried for jump boots myself. Not nearly as comfortable as jungles, or aftermarket boots. Oh, that and worring about damaging the leather and repolishing to IG spec. ugh!!

Yeoman

07-10-2006, 01:55 PM

I love mine. maybe one day I'll convince the bosses to let me wear em on a jump heh.
they don't get much use with me though. they were just a purchase I had cuz they looked shinny and said jump boot basically.
Greg

oldsoak

07-10-2006, 04:36 PM

maple.leaf

07-10-2006, 06:39 PM

Ginkle heath ?

maple.leaf - is one of the movers and shifters a chap serving in the UK Signals Corps perchance ? ;-)

Yes. if you're thinking of the same guy as me, he's based at Blandford Camp.

maple.leaf

07-10-2006, 06:41 PM

How does jumping out of the Dakota compare to 130s, 141s, 17s etc?

Its better - especially when your pilot is a vet who actually flew paratroop drops during the invasion.... :-)

Jabroni

07-10-2006, 08:41 PM

Corcoran!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Former Gold Falcon

07-10-2006, 08:51 PM

Its better - especially when your pilot is a vet who actually flew paratroop drops during the invasion.... :-)

Ah GEEZ!!!

Quit rubbing it in ya Wanker ;) !

Cheers

T.

RFSU

07-11-2006, 01:49 AM

I have always been a fan of the hi-tec magnums. they dont last very long but they are super comfy and pretty cheap so replacing them is not too much of an issue.

n4292936

07-11-2006, 04:52 AM

Thanks for the reply Greek Soldier, That's helpful though I'm particularly interested in shoes with treads like normal running shoes.

Another example is like this :

http://www.danner.com/images/productimg/26010.jpg

I've updated the kit list as requested

oldsoak

07-11-2006, 06:12 AM

Yes. if you're thinking of the same guy as me, he's based at Blandford Camp.

Thats the fella ! I was one of his students on a course there.

Jaegerfeld

07-16-2006, 12:12 PM

Great info,

But are the open hooks (lowa / meindl) no-problem to wear?

And should I go for a High or medium high boot?

open hooks are no problem - i wear such boots for 12 years - they are great when you try to unwear your boot after a long day ( and 40 km marching)

low or high boots - thats difficult
for WHAT do you need them : marching ( low + light) or real combat like duty ( high + heavy) or at the desert/ jungle ( high and light)
always try to get boots that are min 1 hand higher as your ankle i don't remember the english name but try to say it in german : crushing your "Sprunggelenk" is the worst thing you can do. better get high boots

Irish

07-16-2006, 01:42 PM

I've had meindl boots for most of my army career so far,both the Army pro and the lower ankle boot(which is the ones I have now)..the only bad thing I have to say about Meindl is they are Crap on slippery surfaces(crossing wet rocks on a river)no grip whatsoever..never had that problem with my matterhorns or the Hiax boot were issued with now.

Sheikh Al Stranghi

07-21-2006, 05:29 AM

I would definitely go for meindl-I have been using em for several years now and to me they´re far better than anything I´ve ever tried before.
Keep them dry though, you don´t want to spend two days in soaked boots, they dry VERY slowly.

-edited for a tiny spelling mistake

Stingray

07-21-2006, 05:44 AM

I suggest not to buy boots having open hooks if you plan static lines jumps.
Anyway Meindl are excellent.

magestyk7

07-21-2006, 08:14 AM

For the last year I've been rolling with these..... check it out.

http://www.lowaboots.com/catalog/ShowBoot.cfm?StockNum=3512080430&Category=8&Type=M

DeltaWhisky58

07-21-2006, 08:22 AM

I'm sorry to have to intervene here, but there are more boots threads in this forum alone than I've had hot dinners lately.

Have a look at these (http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/search.php?searchid=341575) other 25 threads on boots!

Also please see here (http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/showthread.php?t=85737).

I am not being difficult here, but the repetive nature of this forum is just waisting bandwidth when all the info you need is there if only you would take the effort to search.

AFJROTC55

07-21-2006, 01:25 PM

im in need of a new pair of boots, my Bates' have about had it. I am in for something rough and tough, and GORETEX. I found these Rockies in my size for 50.00 bucks + (shipping) but anyways, these things are running for about 170 retail, the rockies in question are on clearance and they happen to come in my size, if anybody has any knowledge or has experience with these boots, and can advise on the subject, it would be much appreciated.

http://www.southernpoliceequipment.com/product350.html

heres a pic.

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b124/EMANAFPJ/242c7084.gif

East Scout

07-22-2006, 10:34 AM

My feet are getting old.......I use two Dr Scholl double think insoles in each boot w/ suitable socks but that dosnt seem to be enough....I was thinking of trying out those gel inserst..Any of you hard chargers and adventurers ever use them in the bush, field or otherwise?

ES

Holstein

07-22-2006, 10:42 AM

Gel inserts works just fine for me.

dave81

07-22-2006, 10:45 AM

The gel insoles are a lot more expensive than the generic Dr. Scholl's, but well worth it. Mine were $15-18, and the difference between them and foam is like night and day.

Steve Andrews

07-22-2006, 02:11 PM

I use Sorbothane footbeds in my fire boots.

Good kit.

James

07-22-2006, 02:42 PM

I've been using Superfeet insoles for years. They're glorious.

usm2b

07-22-2006, 03:13 PM

superfeet seems to hard IMO, I use lynco insoles in my boots, and doctor scholls athletic gels in my running shoes, couldn't be happier.

AOCBravo2004

07-22-2006, 04:07 PM

I've used Magnum 3DMAX insoles, they have worked wonders, along with thorlo socks.

East Scout

07-22-2006, 06:52 PM

Great posts fellas..Thanks a lot for the info!

ES

silveykyle

07-22-2006, 08:36 PM

I don't know if you need to go as far as I had to go, but if your feet really hurt that much you might want to check out a podiatrist and have them set you up with custom orthotic inserts. Hopefully that didn't sound too idiotic.

East Scout

07-22-2006, 08:44 PM

Beer Monster

07-24-2006, 02:30 PM

I use Sorbothane footbeds in my fire boots.

Good kit.

I'll second the Sorbothanes double strikes ...... great bits of kit, however, I'll pass on a few lessons learned the hard way:-

1. They act like sponges and soak up a large amount of water so take a spare set to replace those used in river crossings etc

2. Due to the padding they take up a lot of room in your boots so you may have to go a boot size larger.

3. They have good insulative qualities. In cold temperature a bonus but in hot temperatures they may well make your feet sweat even more ........ a few guys I know have had some very "funky" foot root due to this, but not a issue if your personal admin is up to speed!

Hollis

07-24-2006, 03:43 PM

Naw..Idiotic? Not at all..Sorry to hear your feet are giving you that much trouble..But naw they arnt that bad..I think part of my problem is boot sizing..I have really small girly feet so I have to comprimise and get boots that are a bit big on my feet. That mixed with long ass hikes and age and its time to look for an upgrade to my usualy inserts..they just dont cut it anymore..

Thanks for the reply..

ES

Look up a good boot fitters. We use to do superfeet, they have/had a great program.

Your feet have two basic lengths, weighted and unweighted. A foot can change 2 - 3 sizes during a normal step (extreme) some feet maybe a 1/2 size.

A boot should be bought for your smallest foot print, unweighted. a orthodics(SP?)/insole/molded insole is used to stabilize and hold the foot in place. Movement cause heat that cause blisters. A good boot fitter can take the time to explain this to you. There is more to what I am just saying.

Then you have the "last" that the boot was made from, The "last" is some theoretical foot that ideally most people feet will match (Companies perspective). The thing is buy a boot from a company where the "last" is much like your foot (makes boot fitting easier).

There are some, a few feet that really needs a lot of help. Most seem to get buy.

East Scout

07-24-2006, 04:29 PM

Good info HolliS ..thank pal!

ES

East Scout

07-24-2006, 04:32 PM

Double post AGAIN!

Sabre

07-25-2006, 06:42 AM

ES: Insoles can help a bit with comfort, but it sounds as though you haven't got correctly fitting boots, having to use two insoles per boot.

I would seriously recommend getting the right sized boots for your feet. There should be no need to compromise as (unless you have freakishly tiny feet, in which case standing up is an acheivement) most boot models accomodate a good range of length/width sizes.

If the boots are the wrong size then there is more movement in the boot and the boot doesnt flex with your foot as it is designed to. Instead of forever spending a load of dosh on a search for the best insoles, spend the money on a good quality pair of well-fitting boots. If that means you have to get your feet measured up and a custom pair made then so be it. If you spend a lot of time in boots you can do some damage by having them fit poorly.

East Scout

07-25-2006, 08:17 AM

You have a good point Sabre...As did HolliS...I do have freakishly small feet for a guy but Im a pretty small person anyhow. I cant fit into a boot as small as a 5 and go as large as a 7 depending on the cut...Standard issue boots from the Gov I do a 5 or so..Civilain boots I can go higher but nothing is quite right...Either my feet get choked or i deal w/ over sized lods..Its absolutely a mad game to find anything that works so insoles have been the stand-by....This has always been the case and its never really been an issue untill lately....

A lot off good info on this thread...very productive..Thanks to everyone how spoke up to help..

ES

Sabre

07-25-2006, 09:02 AM

No worries, insoles will resolve the height difference in the boot, but it wont solve the length discrepancy. The mechanics of the boot and foot will be mismatched, leading to sore feet and perhaps long term inflammation.

Try using civvy boots (I believe that you aren't currently serving?) or civvy military-style boots. Also, a friend of mine swears by wearing women's boots. They tend to have a narrower heel so if your feet are small but wide they might fit better.

East Scout

07-25-2006, 11:23 AM

No, Im not in the service any longer....I use a few types of boots..Military and civiy...I have found Hiker style boots serve me best comfort wise but cant handle what I put them through!:-)

Your mate swears correctly...Womans sizes have always served me very well...I truely have fuking girly feet..

ES

Hollis

07-25-2006, 12:20 PM

Some great point Sabre.

To take up space, Move foot up and to the rear of the boot. Heel shims can help a narrow heel. Again as Sabre points out, buy a boot too larger and moving your foot to the rear will only make matter worse, the geometry is all messed up.

Use a Bannock device, measure you foot UNweighted.

Also never wear two pairs of thick socks, they will cause you foot to grow proportionally, which are foot DO NOT DO and the geometry of the boot will becomes incompatible with the NEW shape of your foot. A liner sock is OK with a thick pair. Also use the socks your going to wear when you buy the boot. Thin socks will cause you to buy a pair of boots that may be too tight when you wear thick socks.

One of the best measurement for feet is the mono point system., It guages the foot on Volume. There are bony feet and chunky feet, and they will not work in the same boot.

USMC Tanker

08-16-2006, 09:15 PM

I know this is an old thread, but I thought that I'd post something in here so that you folks don't make the same mistake I did.

The Magnum Amazon Desert Boot, although very light and comfortable, is an EXTREMELY poorly made boot.

Not 2.5 weeks into my use, the soles are separating from the uppers! My uses included: "boots and ute's" runs, tank ramp wear, and running/walking from tank to tank in the field. Not exactly scaling Mt. Everest.

I am thoroughly dissatisfied with this boot.

So to you that tried to warn me, I definitely should have listened. To those who are interested in this boot, BEWARE!

James

08-16-2006, 10:49 PM

I told you!

LaoSexMachine

08-16-2006, 10:51 PM

When I was in Magnums were not authorize in my unit. Just like James said.

stuntman

08-16-2006, 11:03 PM

I also had a pair (10 years ago) and I used them in the winter time. They only lasted about 4 months of standard street use and fell apart one time when I was riding my bike.By the way they are still one of the most comfortable boots I have ever worn, sans Merrels but thats a hybrid boot company. I always wondered why many Cops here in the states use magnum boots..

Chops

08-16-2006, 11:56 PM

Rubbish for field use like James says- I had a black pair in the UK for a short time when they first became readily available and although comfortable and looked pretty gucci they were rubbish- fell apart after even light field use.

22.5degrees

08-17-2006, 12:06 AM

anyone familiar with the HAIX brand boots? I was also checking out the Meindl Desert all terrain, any thoughts?

http://www.ajbrooks.com/qs/product/40/2357/139816/0/8

22.5

TacoDelRio

08-17-2006, 07:57 AM

Damn, my Magnums are frickin' troopers! They're still truckin', they just need new soles (which I'm not going to buy).

Sixpints

08-17-2006, 08:00 AM

My meindls have lasted for 9 years now, they look similar to the ones brabo posted.
I use them for hiking in all sorts of terrain, (mountains, desert, jungle etc.) quality wise you can't go wrong with a pair of meindls, on the downside: they're heavy! after 8+ hours you really start to feel that weight, also because of the stiff soles they're not very comfy if you have to drive a car.

piebiter

08-17-2006, 09:42 AM

+1 on the Danners...well made, they hold up and can be re-soled. Magnums just don't hold up to heavy use. Ok for light duty.

scrybe

08-17-2006, 11:22 AM

Danner is located about 2 hours north of me, including a hell of a factory outlet.

Just wanted to brag. :D

USMC_VA

08-17-2006, 11:31 AM

Danner is located about 2 hours north of me, including a hell of a factory outlet.

Just wanted to brag. :D

bragging would be if you got discounts....im watching you :)

Catch22

08-17-2006, 04:52 PM

You can trust Meindl's, just wear good socks and some good insoles. Their Desert Foxes are the best boots I've worn recently, you can trust Haix as well, they keep up good reputation here as well. Mind that both desert Meindls are made of leather and mesh - perfectly breathable, but don't soak them too much.

As for the Magnum's - some years ago they were branded by Hi-Tec, and had better QC. Now they are utter crap. Old ones were decent, and hold up fair, new ones aren't worth looking at.

Irish

08-18-2006, 12:13 AM

anyone familiar with the HAIX brand boots? I was also checking out the Meindl Desert all terrain, any thoughts?

http://www.ajbrooks.com/qs/product/40/2357/139816/0/8

22.5

We get the HAIX issued..I find them very comfortable/light/durable..an all round good boot...

Here is a Link to a thread I posted about them.
http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/showthread.php?t=77600&highlight=Boots

tacticalmaster[EST]

08-28-2006, 11:09 AM

Hello

Since my old boot has started to wear out, I decided to get a new pair. Will be using it for patrol competitions, hiking, mout etc. Basically a good all-rounder.

I have choice between two at the moment.
1) Oakley Special Forces Assault Boot
2) Lundhags Scout http://shop.lundhags.se/736-16-64.html

If you have any suggestions or recommendations, please feel free to write:)

Edit. Sry for double thread

Moddy

08-28-2006, 11:16 AM

Have you looked at Magnums? They're a nice pair of boots. Really comfortable from the begining, so no lengthy breaking in.

tacticalmaster[EST]

08-28-2006, 11:19 AM

Actually I am leaning towards the Lundhags Scout model. When you're knee deep in water a Magnum isn't always the best choice;)

substance

08-28-2006, 11:23 AM

Honestly, if you love the Oakley boot but don't want to spend the cash consider these: http://lapolicegear.com/codetabo.html Converse has them in black and in desert tan. I bought a par of the black ones looking for a more comfortable pair as opposed to like Matterhorn or Concoran. Great boot! Feels like wearing a really strong pair of tennis shoes. I wore them for close to 9 hours the day they came in the mail and NO BLISTERS!!

Moddy

08-28-2006, 11:59 AM

;1882923']Actually I am leaning towards the Lundhags Scout model. When you're knee deep in water a Magnum isn't always the best choice;)

I'll give you that! When it comes to water Magnum's do tend to leave alot to be desired... as I found out a few weeks back. :-(

Black Dog

08-28-2006, 01:21 PM

Bellevilles all the Way!!

Mike762

08-28-2006, 02:52 PM

Bellevilles all the Way!!

+1 on the Bellevilles

Seraphim

08-28-2006, 03:08 PM

USE THE SEARCH!

IBTL

andreen

08-28-2006, 03:18 PM

;1882908']Hello

Since my old boot has started to wear out, I decided to get a new pair. Will be using it for patrol competitions, hiking, mout etc. Basically a good all-rounder.

I have choice between two at the moment.
1) Oakley Special Forces Assault Boot
2) Lundhags Scout http://shop.lundhags.se/736-16-64.html

If you have any suggestions or recommendations, please feel free to write:)

Edit. Sry for double thread

I have the Lundhags Professional High, the best boot I have ever used.
http://shop.lundhags.se/upload/products_S06/hires/00125_900.jpg

ZaakM433

08-28-2006, 06:02 PM

I have the Lundhags Professional High, the best boot I have ever used.
http://shop.lundhags.se/upload/products_S06/hires/00125_900.jpg

Kinky

So... You're a professional?

DeltaWhisky58

08-28-2006, 06:23 PM

Search - there are dozens of boot threads.

Swed

10-03-2006, 10:30 PM

Hello!

Im going to travel thru asia from Januari to June and i have problems decideing what boot i shuld wear.

I have both the Issue desert boot and the issue Combat infantry boot, and they have both good and bad sides.

I gues there some guys in here that have worn both type of boots in warm condtions, and could recomend what i shuld wear.

Regards/ Swed.

LaoSexMachine

10-03-2006, 10:32 PM

A pair of good running shoes will do and buy seal skin socks those are a life saver.

Pete031

10-03-2006, 10:39 PM

leave the issued crap behind... Get yourself some merrell approach shoes and some kind of Hiking boots. Asolo is good, Lowa is good... I never wear any of the issued boots if I don't have to.

Hispeed2

10-04-2006, 02:55 AM

Pete031 is right-Merrell boots are great. Check out the Ventilator II models in either low or mid-cut since it'll be hot in Asia at about that time.

Swed

10-04-2006, 10:22 AM

Thanks, i'll look into merrell.
But i need a pair of boots. No running shoes, i allready have one pair that i will use. I dont like trekking in low cut shoes, there is no stability for the ankles and makes it moore easy to sprain (spelling?) them.

martinexsquaddie

10-04-2006, 11:00 AM

buy decent hiking boots then. If you pick up a decent trekking catalouge you find most civillian hiking boots are low cut because there better for you.
high leg boots just allow you to tuck your trousers in or blouse them no real adv antage support wise.
Issue boots of any country are built to a standard pattern and cheap if they were that great there would'nt be hundeds of firms making more expensive civillian hiking boots. Most serious hikers and climbers are not fashionista's and would use surplus gear if its was any good they don't because theres better gear out there

Cedan

10-04-2006, 11:05 AM

try out some boots and get a good sole for the shoes, get one of those that limits direct shock on the knees and you have them running a lot longer

Silent 6

10-04-2006, 11:53 AM

LaoSexMachine

10-04-2006, 11:59 AM

Pete031 is right-Merrell boots are great. Check out the Ventilator II models in either low or mid-cut since it'll be hot in Asia at about that time.

Thought you were suspended for a couple of weeks, Highspeed 1?

tango44

10-04-2006, 01:26 PM

OAKLEY STANDAR ISSUE ASSAULT BOOT 6 HEIGHT BLACK
That's all that you need!

Hispeed2

10-04-2006, 04:27 PM

Thought you were suspended for a couple of weeks, Highspeed 1?
Uhhh. . . I'm Hispeed2. . . (Heh-heh).

ed316

10-04-2006, 04:29 PM

Uhhh. . . I'm Hispeed2. . . (Heh-heh).

Your the kid who post his airsoft toys in the silencer thread.

jagermeister

10-04-2006, 04:32 PM

hmmmm this should get good.

Hispeed2

10-04-2006, 04:41 PM

Let's stick to the thread topic, shall we?

ed316

10-04-2006, 04:42 PM

Let's stick to the thread topic, shall we?

hahhaahah. CAUGHT!!!!!!!!ehehehehehheheehhehe. You know if they catch you it will be a perma ban.

Argyll

10-04-2006, 05:07 PM

yes he will!!

Back on topic,the Blackhawk boots are nice an comfy, I have Merrells also plus Oakleys(desert) I have 6 different types, but Issue boots will more than likely kill your feet!

Creeper

10-04-2006, 05:11 PM

Don't take the issue stuff. I have Vasque Sundowner Summit gtx and I swear by them. They are all leather but I wore them over the course of the summer, with a good pair of hiking socks at all times, and never had a problem.

Long hikes didn't kill my feet in them, good insoles help. The factory installed aren't bad, but I put in a pair of Dr. Scholls hiking inserts...made them 100% perfect!

Get a bottle of Nixwax and apply before using. Helps waterproof the leather and keep it in tip top shape.

Have a great trip.

Good work by "SILENT SIX". almost anything that 'Vasque' produces is GTG.
Additionally, the 'nika-wax' stuff is also GTG. PLUS, get some 'seam-seal' works like a charm.
BTW, stuff the military stuff into a bag, and leave it behind.

ed316

10-04-2006, 05:13 PM

Vasque is nice. I used them alot in Oregon.

SiFiOn

10-04-2006, 06:00 PM

Hanwag Special Forces (Goretex). Ideal for low temperatures, so maybe less desireable in June. But when you're hiking Asia in June, you'll get warm feet anyway.

http://img428.imageshack.us/img428/8117/specialforcegtx1d900dto0.jpg

Swed

10-05-2006, 05:46 AM

Gues im a bit of a military fasion whore...ha ha...

How's the Oakley desert boots, i have seen the new higher model and they look pretty nice.

But i must say that im pretty satisfied with Wellco's Infantry combat boots.

GromGrad

10-05-2006, 05:53 AM

Merrell Chameleon II Gor-tex XCR. A summer in the desert, a summer in the mountains and dozens of hikes through wet terrain, still kicking. Never wet, always comfortable. Water vapor leaves the shoe freely but water stays out (nifty little science trick based on hydrogen bonding). Very good rubber on the bottom. Saved my ass a few times hiking on loose rocks and boulders in the western united states. Issued boots are awful. Go for merrells, they are the best. I have put probably about 500-700 miles on mine and i have never even gotten a blister. Make sure you get running socks tho, that's the key.

http://www.shoe-store.net/images/products/chameleon-ii-stretch-8568-10458.jpeg

If you want ankle support, merrell has alot of those too.

WoodChipper

10-05-2006, 04:37 PM

Merrell and ASOLO are great. As for Argyll and his post, ignore it. It's all about him and what he's got. Oakleys are good for SF and urban environment and for those who don't buy their boots the company does. For SOME it's all about LCF. Go to an outfitters and try out different boots, only you will be able to tell. The issued stuff is garbage if your going on a civilian trip.

loganinkosovo

10-10-2006, 06:37 AM

What? No one wants Converse Hi-Tops?

LOL!

http://www.uscav.com/prodinfo/enlarged/28784L.jpg

http://www.uscav.com/Productinfo.aspx?productID=9666&TabID=1&CatID=6

Ripple soles are crap in the field....stay away from them. Twist your ankle in a heartbeat. :)

Danners, Matterhorns, Corcorans are all great boots. Matterhorn is making desert boots now too.

http://www.uscav.com/prodinfo/enlarged/25431L.jpg

Corcorans new tac boot

http://www.uscav.com/prodinfo/enlarged/26880L.jpg

I wear 5.11 HRTs at work but they don't look like they would last too long in the field being a Tac boot and all.

loganinkosovo

10-10-2006, 06:57 AM

My problen has always been long narrow feet. US size 12 width B

Corcoran stopped making B widths for a number of years.....at least I couldn't find them. The fix was 11 1/2 or 12 C, what ever I could get, with thick socks. :)

The gel insoles are great but don't breath so your feet sweat worse than usual.

You might want to slide by a foot doctor. You might be in the early stages of Plantar Fasciitis.

Plantar fasciitis is that pain in the bottom of your foot that especially hurts first thing in the morning when you try to get out of bed and stand on it, or after sitting for awhile. It is caused by wounding the tough fascia connective tissue on the bottom of your foot. This band runs from your heel to the ball of your foot. It supports your arch and it transmits your weight across the bottom of the foot with each step you take.
If the plantar fascia gets bruised or over-stretched, the inflammation causes the heel and foot pain. It can also get partially detached from the heel and a calcium deposit can form - a heel spur.
Causes
1. Over-****ation (http://walking.about.com/library/weekly/aa040499.htm): Excessive rolling of your foot and ankle with each step. This can be corrected by wearing motion control running shoes or orthotics.
2. Wearing old shoes (http://walking.about.com/cs/shoes/a/shoeguide.htm): Shoes lose their support and cushioning after 500 miles. If your shoes are a year old and you wear them regularly, they are dead. Get rid of them or you risk injury.
3. Overstriding (http://walking.about.com/cs/beginners/a/10mistakes1.htm): taking too long of step in front of your body can also contribute to tight calves and plantar fasciitis.

Been there, done that, got the orthotics to prove it. :)

It's the dreded scourge of the Flat-footed people like me.

nimer bortuqaal

10-10-2006, 06:57 AM

Danners. The best footware I've ever owned. I have five pairs of their boots and one pair of hiking type shoes. Some of their boots are expensive, but they will last at least twice as long as a typical boot. You can also properly resole them if you have a cobbler around worth damn who will actually sew on the new soles as opposed to just gluing them. I have other brands of boots (Lowas, Asolos, Merrels), but I prefer my Danner Desert Eagle GTX's. They aren't as robust as my Desert Acadia's but they are half the weight. These boots are now on their second combat tour and I have nothing but good to say of them. My black Acadia's are now six years old with one sole change. Spend some money and get your money's worth.

Biglug

10-10-2006, 11:06 AM

I have a pair of the new Corcoran tactical boots in black 7inches.
There excellent boots for an urban evvironment and Corcoran has always made high quality boots. I've worn many pairs over the years and still have two pairs of jump boots from when I was in the 82nd that have seen years of use and still look great.

The tactical boots are for urban environment mainly and should hold up to light outdoor activity no problem. The connection of the materials and the sewing is what's most important. It's if you'd plan on using them anywhere deeper in the woods where they be getting soaked in water and mud consistantly and put through heavy outdoor travel there are better choices. That's not what there designed for anyway.
If you want a really tough pair of boots though, your not going to get it with a pair of tactical sneakers no matter who makes it.
Some are definitely better than others but the material choices are for that urban environment. Corcoran, Matterhorn, Danner, Lowa are all excellent choices.

These seem like a fair blend of both and I'm planning on getting a pair next for more heavier outdoor use with still a lighter boot.
http://www.camo-store.com/matterhorn_1640_gortex_mach_boot.htm

http://www.camo-store.com/images/Matterhorn%201640.jpg

They do make them in desert. They have one of the best soles I've seen too.

http://www.coveshoe.com/ItemDisplay.asp?Style=4600&CategoryID=35

andreen

10-10-2006, 06:16 PM

I would choose the Mendl's Desert Foxes or a pair of 5.11 HRT Desert.
I have the pair of black 5.11 HRT and used them for at year now in the field. And I have not had any problems with them.

OT.....I use a pair of Le chameau Mufflon Plus for hunting now for 6 years and I love them to death. I kan stand in a stream for hours, and you don't freeze your foots of.
Do any of you know if Le chameau make combat boot........OT

The successor of the Le chameau Mufflon Plus is the:
LE CHAMEAU PANTHERA
http://jaktia0006.jetshop.se/pub_images/large/JAKT210-010_61.jpg

Meldon

10-11-2006, 03:47 PM

I bought altama jungle boots in 1990... well I still have them even if they now badly need to be replaced. lol

http://img264.imageshack.us/img264/2004/dscf1114dh4.th.jpg (http://img264.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dscf1114dh4.jpg)

Really good boots, I took them everywhere and they never let me down.

Incoherent

10-11-2006, 04:07 PM

Are there any reviews on the Blackhawk Warrior Wear Black Ops Boots yet? Just curious as to how they'd stack up against the current standards.http://www.blackhawk.com/uploads/product_images/83BT03BK-ALL_1.jpg

James

10-11-2006, 05:06 PM

I've got a pair of Danner Recons that are almost 9 years old and still in excellent shape.

Merrell Sawtooths (warm but sturdy and comfortable)
http://img175.imageshack.us/img175/5024/sawtoothskh4.jpg

Belleville 590 (awesome for mild weather)
http://img278.imageshack.us/img278/7629/bellevillejo2.jpg

Some Blundstones (awesome for everyday wear!)
http://img175.imageshack.us/img175/6671/blundiesuy5.jpg

And, since I'm a fashion consious contractor...
(These are comfortable but only suitable for urban use)
http://img404.imageshack.us/img404/1856/adidasiy5.jpg

Thanks to ImageShack for Free Image Hosting (http://imageshack.us)

Jabroni

10-13-2006, 08:51 PM

Corcorans!

Biglug

10-15-2006, 03:54 PM

Well I found a chink in the armor of Corcoran's new tactical boot.
Yesterday one of the nylon lacing loops tore open and even though the rest of the boot is great I wondered about this idea.
Gonna have to give it a no-go.
Corcoran's have always been quality, but using nylon lacing loops was a bad idea. The rest may hold no problem for the life of the boot and I have other shoes with nylon loops that have held fine, but the thickness of the nylon for these in particular have made me decide not to buy the other pair of Corcoran above that use the same loops.
I sewed the loop back up and it should be fine, but I'm just gonna get some Lowa Combat GTX's instead for some new deeper woods boots.

Yes,

http://us.st11.yimg.com/us.st.yimg.com/I/botach_1916_17220052 (http://us.st11.yimg.com/us.st.yimg.com/I/botach_1916_16907627)http://us.st1.yimg.com/store1.yimg.com/Img/trans_1x1.gif

No,

http://www.camo-store.com/images/Matterhorn%201640.jpg

Digital Marine

10-15-2006, 04:07 PM

Belleville 590 (awesome for mild weather)
http://img278.imageshack.us/img278/7629/bellevillejo2.jpg

I think those are the 550ST's :)

James

10-15-2006, 05:06 PM

Mine aren't steel toed.

http://www.quanticoboot.com/detail.asp?product_id=b500

Digital Marine

10-16-2006, 04:32 AM

Mine aren't steel toed.

http://www.quanticoboot.com/detail.asp?product_id=b500

Didn't know they made those as well, thanks!:)

8thidpathfinderpower

10-16-2006, 11:06 AM

Are you guys talking about the Hi-Tech magnums? They used to be of good quality...

Roanoke

10-16-2006, 11:27 AM

Biglug

10-16-2006, 01:30 PM

Anybody know anything about these Altamas?

http://www.uscav.com/Productinfo.aspx?productid=5752&TabID=1&CatID=6

And how well they might work in temperate weather?

Looks fairly decent for the price.

If not, any other sub $100 boots that would be good?

Altama's Jungle's and Desert's are just your basic boot in design and cushion, but that said there a hardcore boot. I still have a pair of jungle's that I've put through everything, are scuffed up to the extreme, but still kickin.
There a great choice and much more comfortable with a good set of cushion inserts.
Everyone should have atleast one pair.

If you get a pair you might want to get a set of DryZ to go with them.

http://www.uscav.com/Productinfo.aspx?productid=8670&TabID=1&CatID=83

ekranoplan

10-16-2006, 06:22 PM

I've seen enough Europen dudes talking about owning Belleville boots here on forums. My question would be is there any other way of getting those boots outside of US except ordering them through their website. I just love those boots but would really like to try them before buying a pair.

SiFiOn

10-17-2006, 04:08 AM

Expensive, and for heavy duty in higher terrain:

http://img183.imageshack.us/img183/3909/alaskamarone2370c1pr1.jpg

The_Dude

10-17-2006, 04:19 PM

Try ebay.
I know a German online shop that sells them if it would help,but I don't know know if they ship to your country.

Besides I got Belleville 790 and they're great.

Digital Marine

10-17-2006, 05:02 PM

http://www.softair.arcoefrecce.it/type.asp?ID_tipo=9020

:)

ekranoplan

10-17-2006, 06:54 PM

Thanks for that!!

The_Dude if you could send me that web addres you were talking about... I would appreciate it. Thanks!

FROGFOOT-MKDN

10-17-2006, 08:19 PM

Don't want to advertise, but there are two brands from Slovenia that are extremely good, anyone from the ex-YU countries will verify this:
Planika & Alpina

Check out their web sites, prices & availability worldwide.

I own several & like 'em.

Dan2004

10-17-2006, 11:46 PM

I've got a big ol' pair Matterhorn Field Boots that I wear with my ACUs.
http://www.afmo.com/photos/211-00410-2.jpg

These babies are to Combat Boots what Doc Martens are to shoes!

They're tough, comfortable, and good for damn near any terrain. Only downside was that they set me back $280!

The_Dude

10-18-2006, 12:21 PM

http://www.upstarter.de/assets/s2dmain.html?http://www.upstarter.de/50236397be06dc909/index.html
Here it is.Hope you get what you want.

ekranoplan

10-18-2006, 02:06 PM

http://www.upstarter.de/assets/s2dmain.html?http://www.upstarter.de/50236397be06dc909/index.html
Here it is.Hope you get what you want.

THX a lot, I hope that too...

CANDOG

10-18-2006, 03:38 PM

Go for the magnums. The most comfortable boots I have ever had:)

ed316

10-18-2006, 03:42 PM

Go for the magnums. The most comfortable boots I have ever had:)

You serious? Magnum's suck!

James

10-18-2006, 05:46 PM

It's someone's first post - methinks they're just being a jackass.

jagermeister

10-18-2006, 07:44 PM

i like the oakleys...or danners.

Irish

10-18-2006, 09:52 PM

Expensive, and for heavy duty in higher terrain:

http://img183.imageshack.us/img183/3909/alaskamarone2370c1pr1.jpg
I've recently finished a course where a few of the Instructors had these..nothing but good things to say about them.....

James

10-18-2006, 09:57 PM

CANDOG,

Please don't report posts simply to tell the mods your opinions about boots.

Thanks.

Irish

10-18-2006, 10:02 PM

CANDOG,

Please don't report posts simply to tell the mods your opinions about boots.

Thanks.

James,I like them Merrell Boots you mentioned in a previous post..you wear them alot?.any good for field use?

CANDOG

10-18-2006, 10:02 PM

I may be my second post but in fact I do highly recomend the Magnums.
I have in the past worn general issue-bates-danner-altama and prospectors and have personally fond the magnums best for me.
Bottom line it is what works for you!!!:|

LaoSexMachine

10-18-2006, 10:08 PM

Magnums might be fine for the barracks but I would not recommended them for the field.

Irish

10-18-2006, 10:17 PM

Magnums might be fine for the barracks but I would not recommended them for the field.

We get them issued as a barrack Boot now..as I mentioned Im recently finished a course were some of the lads wore their magnums and got soaked..

I wore my issue Haix and was Bombers..

LaoSexMachine

10-18-2006, 10:18 PM

We get them issued as a barrack Boot now..as I mentioned Im recently finished a course were some of the lads wore their magnums and got soaked..

I wore my issue Haix and was Bombers..

Sorry but I'm American and I don't understand.

James

10-18-2006, 10:20 PM

James,I like them Merrell Boots you mentioned in a previous post..you wear them alot?.any good for field use?

I do wear them a lot - in fact I have them on right now. They are super comfortable. I have not tried them in extreme cold.

Pluses:
They are very light, very comfortable, great ankle support, tough construction. I should add that I have a pair of Superfeet insoles in them too)

Minuses:
Bulky, hot in warm weather, and a colleague of mine had a pair start to fall apart in Iraq due to the heat - the glue that connects the sole to the upper softened.

I hope this is helpful.

Irish

10-18-2006, 10:31 PM

Sorry but I'm American.

Okay sorry..I'll explain..The course I've just finished was a CTI(Confidence Training Instructors Course)where I was taught how to set up absail(Repelling)systems and lead climbing..the Instructors would say Bombers to us when we placed gear(protection) correctly..Basicly it means good/great..

Ps..Next time your in a Newsagent/bookstore,check out any of the rockclimbing Magazines..you'll come across that term..

LaoSexMachine

10-18-2006, 10:32 PM

Learn something new everyday. Thanks Irish.

Irish

10-18-2006, 10:33 PM

TacoDelRio

10-18-2006, 10:41 PM

I second James' on the Merrell boots. I've got Phaser Peak 3d waterproof models, and they're fantastic. No discomfort.

Irish

10-18-2006, 10:44 PM

I second James' on the Merrell boots. I've got Phaser Peak 3d waterproof models, and they're fantastic. No discomfort.

Any one have a link/website?

LaoSexMachine

10-18-2006, 10:46 PM

Any one have a link/website?

http://www.merrellboot.com/Main.aspx

Irish

10-18-2006, 10:50 PM

http://www.merrellboot.com/Main.aspx

Cheers Buddy.

psukan

10-19-2006, 05:46 AM

I do wear them a lot - in fact I have them on right now. They are super comfortable. I have not tried them in extreme cold.

Pluses:
They are very light, very comfortable, great ankle support, tough construction. I should add that I have a pair of Superfeet insoles in them too)

Minuses:
Bulky, hot in warm weather, and a colleague of mine had a pair start to fall apart in Iraq due to the heat - the glue that connects the sole to the upper softened.

I hope this is helpful.

I think I had a pair of these as well. Can't remember the model name but good boots. Mine came with an outer leather tongue that took a bit to break in and made it difficult to tighten the boot up so it was super snug. I like my boots to be real tight like a hockey skate. But once they broke in I had no problems. I wore them out totally and now can't find that model as they have changed the look of all the Merrells (I think). But a very good boot all around. If anyone out there knows where I can get the older style Merrells online please let me know.

TacoDelRio

10-19-2006, 08:20 AM

Any one have a link/website?

Sorry for the late reply.

Here are mine:
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y222/TacoDelRio/DSC02813-1.jpg
Crappy picture but whatever. I haven't used them alot, but they have still recieved a fair amount of use. I got them for winter, so we'll see how they do with heavy use soon.

http://www.merrellboot.com/Shop/Detail.aspx?NavID=FT-O-HIK&PID=8899

SiFiOn

10-19-2006, 09:22 AM

I've recently finished a course where a few of the Instructors had these..nothing but good things to say about them.....

Haven't tested them in the field yet, but they are very comfortable in flat terrain. Heavier usage is coming close for this pair...

Irish

10-19-2006, 12:13 PM

Learn something new everyday. Thanks Irish.

Here you go..this is a Rockclimbing Board.
http://www.rockclimbing.com/topic/119236

stuntman

10-20-2006, 02:32 AM

Sorry for the late reply.

Here are mine:
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y222/TacoDelRio/DSC02813-1.jpg
Crappy picture but whatever. I haven't used them alot, but they have still recieved a fair amount of use. I got them for winter, so we'll see how they do with heavy use soon.

http://www.merrellboot.com/Shop/Detail.aspx?NavID=FT-O-HIK&PID=8899

Awsome! I see you finally got a pair of Merrels! My babies are going on season 3 and they are still going strong. So don't expect to part with them anytime soon. Nice choice by the way..

jsb

10-21-2006, 12:20 PM

I own 2 pairs off belleville
One off them the cordura ript from the lace section.
all they can say is bring them back w3here you bought them.
I did get when i was in the army and now i,m not any more
soo the bases are closed for me.
bummer butt great walking shoes

Slater

10-21-2006, 01:36 PM

At the Luke AFB clothing sales and BX, the Desert versions are about $95 per pair (I was in there yesterday). Don't know if that's high, low, or average. But there's no tax so that's a plus.

lasershothungary

10-23-2006, 02:27 PM

echohund

10-24-2006, 01:24 PM

Okay this is a question to the Boot Gurus.......First, Ive decided on buying a pair of Danner desert Arcadia boots. The problem i have is choosing between the desert arcadia....or the desert arcadia gtx.

The most important thing im concerned with is the outside, Is it water Repellent or does water automatically start soaking through. Since it doesnt rain much where i live and i really dont walk through kneee high water everday either, I dont know if getting the gortex liner would be a waste of money. I want a boot that is more or less water reppellent, Kind of like if the gortex was on the outside...Is there such thing?????

Has anyone ever tested these boots in wet conditions........all i ever wore in the marines...was old school jungle boots and parade boots.

Thanks Gents
e.hund

oldsoak

10-24-2006, 06:36 PM

Not tried those boots, but FWIW, goretex lined boot do take longer to dry out and they are hotter on the feet. I f it doesnt get that wet where you are, I'd say you dont need them. If it rains, take shelter - if you get soaked ,they'll dry out quicker. Just my 2 cents. I'd go goretex if your working in wet paddocks with a lot of early morning dew, but not otherwise.

cosimo

10-24-2006, 07:34 PM

Again I have not used this particular boot but I have been through a fair few pairs of walking and combat boots. If your boots will rarely encounter wet conditions then I would not bother with the goretex. I find that goretex liners are a nice little bit of extra protection on a full leather boot that will be used in wet conditions, a kind of belt and braces approach. On leather/cordura boots a goretex liner is not sufficient to keep the boot water proof on its own and in warm weather your feet will be hotter and sweatier. Every pair of mixed fabric boot I have owned has let water in.

To me a waterproof liner on a desert boot seems a bit pointless. In my humble opinion you should choose the non goretex but treat the leather parts with a wax like nikwax or grangers. If they are suede they won't look as nice but the boots will be adequately protected from dew and occasional soakings.

I used a mixed fabric boots a few weeks ago on a 100 hundred mile hike. Nice and light but the goretex xcr liner let water straight through. Not nice on a 20 mile day.

LaoSexMachine

10-24-2006, 08:14 PM

I wore the regular Acadias 8". My advice? Just buy Seal Skinz socks THEY WORK and are a life saver.

Azn_US_Marine

10-26-2006, 05:26 AM

Has anyone worn the Matterhorn 1998 USMC Infantry Combat Boot? I want to get one for myself to add to my uniform collection and for wear with civillian attire. If anyone reading this has a pair or have worn them before tell me wether they're good or not? Thank you...

USMC Tanker

10-26-2006, 05:56 AM

Matterhorn generally makes good boots. I'd give 'em a go.

Semper Fidelis

LaoSexMachine

10-26-2006, 10:52 AM

If you are talking about the ones they issued us(Which I think). They are comfortable and good to go. Not made for hot weather though. I was station in K-bay and the only time I used them was when I was in the field.

ed316

10-26-2006, 12:14 PM

^^ IIRC the issues ones were made by Belleville.

b33f

10-29-2006, 07:13 PM

http://img159.imageshack.us/img159/1609/botach192030296042yv0.th.jpg (http://img159.imageshack.us/my.php?image=botach192030296042yv0.jpg)

I have "tested" the older, "classic" version once but not these.. does anyone own a pair of these and can give me a review, please?
Durability, breathability and general comfort are of most interest to me.

Meringue87

10-29-2006, 10:38 PM

Hi sorry just to veer off abit here how does the classic gsg 9 boots feel.

Connor Oz

10-30-2006, 12:13 PM

I've got a pair of Nike Tactical boots but they're getting too small for me now and I'm interested in getting a pair of these, so any reviews would be appretiated by me aswell :)

tango44

10-30-2006, 02:17 PM

I've got a pair of Nike Tactical boots but they're getting too small for me now and I'm interested in getting a pair of these, so any reviews would be appretiated by me aswell :)

Nike Tactical boots?

I never seen those can you provide a link?

Connor Oz

10-30-2006, 04:13 PM

Nike Tactical boots?

I never seen those can you provide a link?

Never found a link but Ii've got pictures I took for a friend a couple of weeks ago if it helps.

http://img46.imageshack.us/img46/5734/0bf2c3cebdeb4155a43bd56yh5.jpg

http://img114.imageshack.us/img114/9953/ca75400bde824dbb8699492ek9.jpg

I'm sorry that one's crap

b33f

10-30-2006, 04:22 PM

Thanks for the comments so far!

Hi sorry just to veer off abit here how does the classic gsg 9 boots feel.

I did not wear them for long but what i remember is that i found the section between shoelaces and tip too stiff for light boots. Apart from that they were comfortable.

Jabroni

10-30-2006, 04:38 PM

All the chavs will start buying them!

Christophe

10-30-2006, 04:49 PM

I dunno about the ´new style´Adidas GSG9´s,but the old style is very slippery in wet conditions.
I have a pair of Bates boots that have a Adidas style sole.I have them for three years now and they are still in great shape.They are very light,sturdy and NEVER slip (as compared to my Oakleys;slippery and very hot).Also,they are cheaper and protect the feet better (f.i. in riot situations).
Here´s the link: (E02145 Men's Bates Enforcer Series 8" Falcon Boot)

http://www.batesfootwear.com/Catalog/buydetail.asp?rnd=4061189&NavID=L:B&ProductID=8222&SizeTypeID=M&NavType=undefined

There´s also a GSG9 boot by HAIX.A few colleagues use them and are very satisfied.They are better for colder temperatures but more expensive then the Bates´.(RANGER GSG9).

http://www.haix.com/en/produkt.php?fpscid=117&fpgrid=13&from=line&fromid=13

Both are great for regular patrol work.
Hope this helps.
If you are in Europe I can give you the link to the stores that sell these boots.

Christophe

10-30-2006, 04:56 PM

Never found a link but Ii've got pictures I took for a friend a couple of weeks ago if it helps.

http://img46.imageshack.us/img46/5734/0bf2c3cebdeb4155a43bd56yh5.jpg

http://img114.imageshack.us/img114/9953/ca75400bde824dbb8699492ek9.jpg

I'm sorry that one's crap

Look like yet another copy of Magnum boots.
Famous brands don´t neccessarily make good LEO/tac boots.
Take Oakley for example.Great eyewear,but the boots imo suck big time.

b33f

10-30-2006, 05:15 PM

California Joe

10-30-2006, 05:25 PM

I think Argyll may be wearing some tan versions of those in his album pics.

Christophe

10-30-2006, 05:27 PM

I'm quite interested in those Bates boots, i also know a local store who sells them. Do you wear insoles with them? How do you clean them/keep them in shape?

I don´t wear insoles in any boots.No need ´till now :-)
To clean them;basic black shoe polish.For mudstains,blood and such,a simple brush (when dried) or a sponge with a bit of water.They dry easily.
Only thing I don´t wear them for is riots with a risk of firebombs (molotovcocktails,as in my avatar).The soles will melt,but,90% of the boots will have their soles melt (in our dept,Magnums are notorious for that).If you need boots for that kind of abuse the best you can get are Danner Acadias,but these are a bit more expensive,and weigh a lot more (though they should last a lifetime).

Christophe

10-30-2006, 05:39 PM

I think Argyll may be wearing some tan versions of those in his album pics.

Seeing the first pic page on Argyll I believe he wears Adidas GSG9´s and Blackhawk Warrior Wear Light Assault Boot (http://www.blackhawk.com/product_detail.asp?product_id=4901&d=)

Would be interesting to hear a review of those Blackhawks by Argyll. :-)
All BTDT´s I spoke with (through the internet,like on (www.professionalsoldiers.com) aren´t too happy about BH.

What Blackhawk has to say about these boots:
BlackHawk! Warrior Wear™ Light Assault Boots are the fastest, lightest, most agile footwear designed specifically for the Special Operation Warrior. The highly ventilated upper and other water-friendly materials give the L.A.B. excellent ventilation and allow quick drying, making it ideal for waterborne operations. Features: Vibram® "Trail Run" oil-resistant rubber outsole in "TC4 Plus" sticky rubber compound for superior grip on all surfaces. Long-wearing, water-friendly Polyurethane midsole. Waterproof recycled molded insole board with built in shank for unsurpassed support. Ortholite® Custom Molded Footbed. Washable, Anti-Microbial. Unique open cell structure enables air to travel through and around the insole creating a cooler environment inside the shoe. OrthoLite® foams offer up to 95-100% breathability for maximum ventilation in and around the foot. Dri-Lex® inner lining wicks away moisture and dries quickly for maximum comfort. Double-layer, lightweight, breathable, nylon mesh and high-abrasion, quick-dry, synthetic microfiber upper found in the highest quality trail running shoes. Reticulated foam used throughout the boot ensures no water absorption unlike more commonly used polyurethane. Durable, rubberized toe and heel reinforcements provide unsurpassed abrasion and scuff resistance, especially when in a ****e position or kicking objects. Quick-close lace feature with durable, molded lace lock and hidden lace perforated pocket allows for immediate closure of boot with one hand. No need to stop and tie laces. Perforated pocket allows for the drainage of water and sand.

Christophe

10-30-2006, 06:15 PM

The soles are made to supress te noise under your boots
http://usaimages.wolverineworldwide.com/bulk/2005/3/18/BTS-WsoleFalcon-02-y.psd.fpx?cell=223,250&qlt=100&rgn=-1,0,1,0.372&afn=6.12303176911189E-17,1,0,0,-1,6.12303176911189E-17,0,0,0,0,1,0,0,0,0,1&cvt=jpeg

They look much the same as a fieldhockey shoe. But for grip stick to vibram.

Vibram soles are great,but the soles on the Bates´s are at least as good.I have done everything with them one can do during patrol,and they never let me down.On the contrary,with Oakleys I was on a foot pursuit and slipped on the wet ground;result:I hit the ground face first,which is embarassing to say the least.I never had that prob with my Bates´.And,indeed,they are very ****ing silent.
When they´re worn out I will without a doubt immediately get me a new pair.
In my opinion they are among the best light-weight patrol boots around.
Just my 2c.

Kilo Golf

11-15-2006, 11:32 PM

How were those Merrels holding up with heavy rucks?

TacoDelRio

11-16-2006, 02:07 AM

How were those Merrels holding up with heavy rucks?

If you mean me, they haven't seen alot. They'll get more use with heavy rucks and crampons / ice gear this winter/spring. Up to now, I've put less than 100 miles on them. They're doing alot better than my Salomons did.

TacoDelRio

11-16-2006, 02:15 AM

Awsome! I see you finally got a pair of Merrels! My babies are going on season 3 and they are still going strong. So don't expect to part with them anytime soon. Nice choice by the way..

They feel good.... I've never owned anything but issue boots, so "comfortable" boots are new and somewhat confusing to me. It's scary to drive while wearing them, as I can't feel the pedals.

But they're nice. No blisters... waterproof unless you go for a swim... sorta-rigid sole... I guess I'll see if I really like them as soon as it snows.

FROGFOOT-MKDN

11-16-2006, 06:30 AM

Very true about Salomon, they feel & look nice and are light, but if you use it daily, it lasts less than a year. Got my hands on a pair of Nevados 1 month ago, height just above the ankle, great stuff, so far like it a lot.

TacoDelRio

11-16-2006, 09:13 PM

I have Salomon trail runners that I've used in the mountains and desert before on numrous occasions. I still wear them. I run alot (no car), and they are slowly falling apart. When I first got them, some seams busted, namely on the tongue. The sole is coming off on one side. Kinda bugged me that some seams busted within a week before I even ran in them.

The construction of similar shoes by Merrell seems a bit better. Alot of it seems to be stitching.

FROGFOOT-MKDN

11-20-2006, 11:26 AM

Hate to repeat myself, but Planika & Alpina, both made in Slovenia, are one of the best boots, I ever wore.

tifosi

11-22-2006, 10:24 AM

how bout oakley S.I. boots? any gud reviews about it?

im planning to get 1 thnx

FROGFOOT-MKDN

11-22-2006, 11:13 AM

Lot of people on this forum claim Oakley makes good sunglasses, but their boots are below average.

Kilo Golf

11-22-2006, 03:59 PM

I have a pair of desert Oakleys and the only time I used them was at halo and some of the gluing is starting to come apart. However, some of my buddies have been using them and they have been holding up.

Catch22

11-23-2006, 07:39 AM

Oh c'mon, above certain (high) pricetag most shoes from respectable brands are worth having, plus are quite similiar. That is the case with European brands at least. Can't say for US or Canadian ones - I've seen some debatable but overpriced designs coming form there. I wear Meindl's Island Pro for the cold wet season and I doubt if there are many Hanwags, Haix, Asolos, Raichles, Lowas, Scarpas, Whatevas that would made a significant diffrence to them... Just make sure you have the cash - then stick to the good brand, have a reasonable warranty and properly care for them (waterproofing, insoles) and you're good to go.

BrianT

11-23-2006, 10:25 AM

So we can't wear Merrells anymore very soon. Anyone want to recommend me a desert tan 8" tall boot?

J-Bags

11-25-2006, 08:39 AM

US Airborne Matterhorn jump boots, tread grip isn't wonderful and a bit heavy but dead comfy, beautiful stitching, and pretty tough wearing. A nice piece of kit.

James

11-25-2006, 10:04 AM

So we can't wear Merrells anymore very soon. Anyone want to recommend me a desert tan 8" tall boot?

Go back to the first post and read... I'm sure you'll find a couple of recommendations... :cantbeli:

BrianT

11-25-2006, 11:15 AM

Go back to the first post and read... I'm sure you'll find a couple of recommendations... :cantbeli:
Hum those Mendls look nice. How much do they weigh?

Gerle

11-25-2006, 08:39 PM

Meindl Desert Foxes weigh about 3.25 lbs per pair, or 1490 g. Amazing what you can find out if you look for stuff yourself...

BrianT

11-25-2006, 10:24 PM

Jesus ****ing christ, I momentarily forgot this is called assholephotos.net.

Gerle

11-25-2006, 11:03 PM

Blasphemy is really cool, you know, makes you look pretty classy in my opinion.

How come you think anyone has the weight of their boots memorized? Admit it, you were just too lazy to look it up.

Oh yeah, by the way, you are welcome.

USMC_VA

11-25-2006, 11:44 PM

Jesus ****ing christ, I momentarily forgot this is called assholephotos.net.

the many and the proud

lasershothungary

12-06-2006, 11:20 AM

Try this
http://www.lowa.de/english/index.html
products-specials-taskforce

I had a supercamp and it was exelent.

khukuri

12-08-2006, 08:34 PM

My last for only for 3 month and broke the leather. I use Lowa and Proboot now.

My merells are still around, theyre wery comfortable but dont hold that long.

How were those Merrels holding up with heavy rucks?

I used them one month straight with heavy loads and they did good. Buttheleather is of bad quality. It rips very easy.

If you mean me, they haven't seen alot. They'll get more use with heavy rucks and crampons / ice gear this winter/spring. Up to now, I've put less than 100 miles on them. They're doing alot better than my Salomons did.

Ice walking or ice climbing. Theyre B2 standard which is fine for walking, but for climbing I use theese

ASOLO AFX EXPEDITION
http://i17.ebayimg.com/03/i/000/78/e3/4cf5_1.JPG

TacoDelRio

12-08-2006, 09:21 PM

Khukuri: Those boots are hurting my eyes! Good boots though. :)

N-G-F-O

12-09-2006, 09:04 AM

http://www.hanwag.co.uk/acatalog/LIMA-GTX-ANTHRAZIT.jpg

Hanwag Lima Gtx, fantasticly comfortable and durable class b boot.

Laconian

12-09-2006, 10:34 AM

khukuri

12-09-2006, 04:02 PM

Khukuri: Those boots are hurting my eyes! Good boots though. :)

Duuuuuuuuuuude I know! Its a horrible colour, you could get them in black, but I chose yellow in the end. Its this military sickness thing you know. As ex-army or just a military-moron you just cant, just cant buy a single piece of kit thats not either Olive-drab green or black, in some cases desert colour. So all my stuff, packs, jackets etc are olive drab or black. And doesnt matter whether the gear is gonna haul ammunition or groceries from the market. Its not that good when youre out chasing snowy and icy peaks. SO I bought yellow shiny boots, blue berghaus scale jacket and are still looking for a shiny backpackcover!

TacoDelRio

12-09-2006, 06:05 PM

Duuuuuuuuuuude I know! Its a horrible colour, you could get them in black, but I chose yellow in the end. Its this military sickness thing you know. As ex-army or just a military-moron you just cant, just cant buy a single piece of kit thats not either Olive-drab green or black, in some cases desert colour. So all my stuff, packs, jackets etc are olive drab or black. And doesnt matter whether the gear is gonna haul ammunition or groceries from the market. Its not that good when youre out chasing snowy and icy peaks. SO I bought yellow shiny boots, blue berghaus scale jacket and are still looking for a shiny backpackcover!

There are ways to get around the colors. I haven't used my boots on heavy snow or ice climbing yet, but I'll find out as soon as it snows.

gonzaleznj

12-11-2006, 02:31 PM

Just signed back up with the marines and i got issued these pair of bates:
http://usaimages.wolverineworldwide.com/bulk/2006/3/9/BTS-W40501-04-yR.psd.fpx?cell=223,250&qlt=80&CVT=jpeg

theyre completely horrible on my heels :|.

Was interested in this pair the Bates Lightweight boots:
http://usaimages.wolverineworldwide.com/bulk/2004/11/24/BTS-W50501-04-y.psd.fpx?cell=223,250&qlt=80&CVT=jpeg

Anybody wanna weigh in maybe have these or have other brands that are better?

ed316

12-11-2006, 02:35 PM

http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/showthread.php?t=84159

jimmyboots

12-11-2006, 02:52 PM

I used the lightweights on my last 4months and can vouch for them. They were really comfortable and didn't need to be broken in. I felt the difference in weight too. YMMV.

gonzaleznj

12-11-2006, 03:02 PM

thanks for thread "Leonidas"... alot of good info there.
Thing is i want these for garrison, day to day to wear on base etc.
So im not to sure on the rules with boots without the EGA logo on the heel.

For the field and such I wouldnt care so much about that:
speaking of which for the field I want these:

Garmont T8 Jungles

http://www.extremeoutfitters.us/ProductImages/m8details.jpg

ZoneOne

12-11-2006, 03:03 PM

http://www.batesfootwear.com/Catalog/buydetail.asp?rnd=3636623&NavID=M:B&ProductID=10134&SizeTypeID=M&NavType=undefined

these are great boots

gonzaleznj

12-11-2006, 03:07 PM

I used the lightweights on my last 4months and can vouch for them. They were really comfortable and didn't need to be broken in. I felt the difference in weight too. YMMV.

so they felt better than the regular issued ones?
These lightweight PT boots are kinda pricey.....

what are the regs? do they have to have the EGA on the heel?
cuz Danner has a real cool pair but it doesnt come with the EGA
desert acadias.

gonzaleznj

12-11-2006, 03:09 PM

http://www.batesfootwear.com/Catalog/buydetail.asp?rnd=3636623&NavID=M:B&ProductID=10134&SizeTypeID=M&NavType=undefined

these are great boots

Ive seen some recon guys wear a similar looking pair in pictures...
Can I wear these in garrison though?

jimmyboots

12-11-2006, 03:50 PM

Ive seen some recon guys wear a similar looking pair in pictures...
Can I wear these in garrison though?

No, you needed Marine Corps endorsed boots when in the rear. Of course this is subject to change with each unit. It all comes down to unit discretion. If you want better boots now, get them with an ega.

Createdeemcee

12-11-2006, 03:50 PM

I hear the Oakleys are awesome and are acceptable as uniform.

jimmyboots

12-11-2006, 03:53 PM

I hear the Oakleys are awesome and are acceptable as uniform.

you won't see many guys walking around Lejuene with Oakleys. they may be fine in iraq but thats not the case in the rear for regular guys.

Twombly

12-11-2006, 04:02 PM

you won't see many guys walking around Lejuene with Oakleys. they may be fine in iraq but thats not the case in the rear for regular guys.
Right. And Oakleys are the Recon thing. Not for the Grunts.

James

12-11-2006, 04:37 PM

I hear the Oakleys are awesome and are acceptable as uniform.

Really? I heard that Oakley should stick to what they know: sunglasses.

LthrnckZero

12-11-2006, 08:03 PM

Get the standard belleville jungle boot for the rear, it's available at any cash sales you go to. Mine are like a pair of sneakers.

For the field, I go with Danners. They cost twice as much, but Danners are the **** and will last longer than the bellevilles. There is a version that has the insignia on it. Not nearly as available as the others, I got mine from the boot store in Quantico. http://www.quanticoboot.com/

Go find the person that issued you those bates and slap them around for a while. I refuse to wear mine because they tear up my heels and to a lesser extent, my toes. They are just straight up junk.

devil99

12-11-2006, 09:28 PM

Do any of you have experience with the Canadian army issued boots or have a link to where I could find that information?

gonzaleznj

12-11-2006, 09:55 PM

yeah those bates i have (at the top of the post) suck.
Ill try to check out some bellevilles. The hot weather Corcoran's on that site look pretty sweet.

hmuller68

12-12-2006, 05:03 AM

IMHO MCCB's by Belleville are awesome stuff...
It's a pleasure to wear this boots woot

Azn_US_Marine

12-12-2006, 12:30 PM

Just get Belleville Jungles, they dont take very long to break in and they're very comfortable. Very cheap too (I bought a new pair at Cash Sales for $65 before deploying) The pair of the older style Danner Marine Hot I bought from Quanticoboot.com doesnt fit properly, so if you're going to shell out money for Danners, its better to go to the Cash Sales at Mainside (if you're also from Camp Pendleton) and have them fitted.

I've noticed with the Bates, the leather sucks. It gets dirty too easily and they can discolor badly, the laces turn red too. Even after being caked with sand and mud, my Bellevilles look brand new again after washing them and cleaning them. My deployment issue pair of Bates arent even my size since they didnt have any my size, so they sit near my bed, alongside my Danners that doesn't fit comfortably either. :-(

I've seen Marines in the rear wear Altama deserts with the Panama sole, but I wont advise on doing that, MAYBE unless the uniform of the day is deserts. Its stupid to wear a bright tan boot with woodlands anyway.

Jsjoholm

12-12-2006, 01:54 PM

I picked up a pair of Merrell Sawtooths some weeks ago and used them for two weeks in Tikrit - the sole on the left boot started to seperate from the shoe after one week though. I have emailed Merrell about this but they haven't gotten back to me as of yet.

jimmyboots

12-12-2006, 02:32 PM

I wore my altamas for two deployments, and once they broke in i loved them.

Hippo

12-13-2006, 11:51 PM

Im going to go to Lake Tahoe in a couple of days and I do not have snow boots so would it be a bad idea to use my 5.11 HRT boots in the snow?

ShakesFIST

12-14-2006, 12:34 AM

Im going to go to Lake Tahoe in a couple of days and I do not have snow boots so would it be a bad idea to use my 5.11 HRT boots in the snow?

Just the name "5.11 HRT Desert Boots" implies you shouldn't wear them in snow...

Laworkerbee

12-14-2006, 01:09 AM

Just the name "5.11 HRT Desert Boots" implies you shouldn't wear them in snow...

Haha yeah no ****

TacoDelRio

12-14-2006, 01:20 AM

I nearly lost toes doing that before. The 5.11's are supposed to be waterproof (correct me if I'm wrong), but snow is a tad different.

devil99

12-14-2006, 01:41 AM

Another don't are the Magnums, stay away from thos boots.

TacoDelRio

12-14-2006, 02:13 AM

Another don't are the Magnums, stay away from thos boots.

That's what I used. Mine lasted longer than most folks... but the 5.11's are better.

What kind of snow hike is this? How much time, where, etc?

striker

12-14-2006, 07:33 AM

Another don't are the Magnums, stay away from thos boots.
Concur, while they are warm enough they offer absolutely no grip on snow and ice.

akmarksman

12-14-2006, 07:35 AM

Another don't are the Magnums, stay away from thos boots.
odd..I wear standard white socks and then some grey wool bootsocks and that's all I need when I'm wearing my magnums outside,and these aren't cold weather boots..they are the stealth magnums..and last year I used the side zip magnums without a problem.
I haven't gotten frostbite toes or cold toes..the most I have gotten is sweaty toes,and that was at the 8 hour mark in 15F snowy weather.

akmarksman

12-14-2006, 08:26 AM

my magnums lasted me about a year of hard use..
the danner's weight is the drawback..but useful for interrogations ;)
For cheap boots(sometimes build quality othertimes price)..use the magnums..but I wouldn't use mine for desert or active duty.they do feel like reeboks though..and for long days that helps.

Magnum stealth for hiking n general winter use. (but not below -40F..)

Hippo

12-14-2006, 10:52 AM

thanks for the input guys

Sneeker

12-14-2006, 02:06 PM

Where I work It gets real cold and real snowy. Try -35degrees celcius without wind chill and foot deep snow. The the next day it will be +2 with the snow still on the ground melting. Usually I have a problem with boots being to damn cold or to damn soggy. So this year I invested in a par of Danner Acadia boots, non steel toe with 200gram thinsulate and Gortex. This year in Edmonton the winter has been hell but my feet have been warm and dry. All I have been had on in the boots is a pair of thermal socks. Dont double up because if your boots are too tight thats when your feet get cold and that sucks.
Ps. Dont take Rough out leather boot into snow conditions. Take a polished boot. Because no matter what if your feet get wet your feet get cold.
I also work outside for 12 hrs a day somtimes with no breaks on concrete... but usually with breaks. :)

ZaakM433

12-14-2006, 02:09 PM

Chalk another one up to you get what you pay for.

Sneeker

12-14-2006, 02:44 PM

about time.

Gunz76

12-18-2006, 08:19 AM

Correct me if I'm wrong but dessert boots are most often suede and from my experience up here in the great white north snow and suede don't mix very well. I personally don't wear my desserts (swat AR) in the snow. I was on an OP in the Arctic last year and our Cold wet weather (CWW) boots worked alright for short periods but you can't beat a good pair of muclucs. If it comes down to it get some chemical heater packs to put in your boots but get the foot ones that are designed to go under your foot. Don't buy battery heated socks because if you are out on the land and your batteries die on you now you have nice wires running through your socks and around your feet which will cause your feet to become cold even faster. Just my input hope it helps.

ex Strathcona

12-18-2006, 08:42 AM

dessert boots have no business being worn in winter ops period.
no grip on snow and ice (you will fall down a lot)
no insulation (you may loose toes)
no moister resistance (your feet will be wet withing 30 minutes in snowy conditions) then see point #2 about the lack of toes.

get the Danner Acadias and keep em polished up cause snow and ice wear are hard on leather and that lets in the moisture.

Gunz76

12-18-2006, 08:45 AM

muclucs...
http://www.combatcamera.forces.gc.ca/netpub/server.np?original=18389&site=combatcamera&catalog=photos&aspect&width=430 (http://www.combatcamera.forces.gc.ca/netpub/server.np?original=18389&site=combatcamera&catalog=photos&download)

http://www.army.forces.gc.ca/lf/English/2_display.asp?product=112

and you can find more out about CWW boots here...

Pidyon Shevuyim

12-19-2006, 05:33 PM

Yimmy

12-19-2006, 07:34 PM

ZoneOne

12-19-2006, 07:55 PM

Either the Bates m6 or the Bates m9 -- same boot just hightop and lowtop.

Great boots, enough said.

Limeyfellow

12-20-2006, 12:00 AM

Thats a rather weird range of terrain your covering from large deserts, scrubland, jungle, coastal regions and alsorts. A decent alround boots like the Bates though should work or maybe some decent lowes. Installation shouldn't be too much of a problem this time a year at least.

playtym

12-20-2006, 02:37 AM

i need a good (VERY GOD) pair of boots that will keep up with the intence terrian i will be traveling through every hour of every day for the next month in a half, but at the same time be comfterble. any recommendations would be great, even better by people who have been in the North and South African terrain..at this point money isnt an issue, so dont be afriad to list the expesive stuff...

What exactly are you going to be doing, packpacking across the continet, or invading? Do you need something tactical or simply a good hiking boot?

Also bear in mind that in Africa there's always a good chance you'll be killed for those boots.

Apogee

12-20-2006, 03:16 AM

whatever you do, make sure you break them in before you go

Sloppy Joe2

12-20-2006, 05:40 AM

whatever you do, make sure you break them in before you go
most important thing to consider! ^

i recommend oakley boots, very comfortable and durable as well

gilgoul

12-20-2006, 05:58 AM

yeah i know there has been alot of threads in the past few weeks on boots. however i really need your guys help.

im leaving for Africa in the next few weeks where i will spend the next month and a half of my life. i need a good (VERY GOD) pair of boots that will keep up with the intence terrian i will be traveling through every hour of every day for the next month in a half, but at the same time be comfterble. any recommendations would be great, even better by people who have been in the North and South African terrain..at this point money isnt an issue, so dont be afriad to list the expesive stuff...

also and recommendations on pants would be great too.

thanks

Are you going to do both desert and equatorial/tropical conditions?
Are you going to carry a heavy back pack every day on long distances?
Are you going to cross wet?
Are you gonna be exposed to cold (believe me, there are some really cold places on the continent, if only at night)
Do you want to keep low profile or can you afford to leave a signature of OMG F$$$ing Delta?

For the pants, I always travel with a pair of khaki and light blue BDU like pants, one in ripstop and one in regular cotton, they dry relatively fast, don't look too bad even stained and dirty and don't get too wrinkled (important if you pay a visit to an official to get a visa for instance).
Plus, you can let them loose on your shoes in town, and tie them up when humping, so you don't ruin them immediately and avoid to have some really unpleasant stuff crawling up you leg to your weewee.

If you go trecking in those hot and humid places, get yourself a mini hammock (20$ at max) and a cheiche when you get there, they are as necessary as the towel for the galaxy hitch hiker.

gilgoul

12-20-2006, 06:04 AM

I went to the Namibian desert in Damaraland for two months, and just used a pair of British Army lightweight jungle boots I had laying around. Perhaps an odd choice, but I already owned them so they were free and never got used.

They worked fine... got a bit dodgy climbing the little rocky mountains they have there when the soles had melted smooth mind.:)

LOL, that's about what happened to my ALTAMA panama jungle boots in the Negev desert, they are now slick as a racing tire and got such a beating in years of intensive wearing that they are now in my shoes mausoleum, with my BJA, my matterhorn and my old IDF shoes.
Beside, and despite they were not as comfy as the last space-technology-all-climates-coffee-machine-air-conditioning-step-for-you boots, they where the most comfortable boots I eve wore in hot climate (both Guyane and Israel)

Catch22

12-20-2006, 06:17 AM

Considering the cost-effectivness I'd follow Gilgoul advice. Get a khaki cotton (or NYCO for a second pair) ripstop BDU pants (you can always add some things like pockets you'll find usefull if you are good with needle too). Get a pair of good desert Altamas + a stock of good shock absorbing insoles. And do as SCUBA said - break them in good for a few weeks! This way you should get relatively cheap and durable kit for your trip. I could advice you on some pricey-fancy stuff, like desert Meindls I use myself, but I suppose if your trip is going to be really that intensive as you wrote - you'll probably wear out the shoes you brought anyway, so consider cost issues.

My .02 cents

PS. Don't forget about the pics for us!

Pidyon Shevuyim

12-20-2006, 08:35 AM

thanks for your help guys! i'll be mainly in Nigeria, but also last part of my trip in SA on a film shoot. so i'll be carrieing alot of weight. and doing alot of hiking in both places..

ZoneOne

12-20-2006, 07:37 PM

I would also suggest the Courtney Boot - a wide range and they are very specific to the area you are heading to. Well worth the money, they will outlast you.

Rubes

12-24-2006, 03:42 PM

Watch out for the snakes.

Jsjoholm

12-24-2006, 08:28 PM

Has anyone tried out the Blackhawk/BHI "WarriorWear" Light Assault Boot?

BrianT

12-24-2006, 09:09 PM

Has anyone tried out the Blackhawk/BHI "WarriorWear" Light Assault Boot?
As a matterfact, I did yesterday. Its extremely light and comfortable. I opted for the Desert Ops instead because they seemed a bit more breathable and just make more sense since I'll be using them in Iraq. I can't comment on the durability. I'll get back to you in a year.

loganinkosovo

12-24-2006, 09:46 PM

My desert 5.11 HRTs have been a good boot. I got them just before my 3 month stint in Doha & Iraq and wore them every other day, rotating them out with a pair of Columbia Tiger Tooth.
I didn't do any extended patrolling, but I put a good bit of mileage just walking around, climbing up and around and over stuff. I also used them for extra support doing heavy squats in them and running 800m for workouts. They were good. No separations and pretty good tread life so far. I like them better than the regular black 5.11 HRT boots.

My black pair are already seperating in places with just walking in the gravel around camp in kosovo for six months. The sand pair are still in good shape but I haven't worn them as much. They are a comfortable boot though and are high enough to give good ankle support that you wont find in the low cut hiking type boots I've seen posted here.

When it come to ruggedness though....you still can't beat an issue boot, but comfort always comes in second with them. :)

BrianT

12-27-2006, 08:17 PM

So, the Blackhawks were on backorder 'til like March in my size. I went ahead and switched them out for the Garmont T8s. These boots are pretty damn sweet. Light, comfortable, plenty of ankle support. They also make a 6" boot if you're into hiking style deals with a desert tan color. Those interested in a boot should look it up. They don't look all retarded looking either, which is one of the reasons I was interested in them.