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Ezekiel25:17
10-24-2006, 07:14 PM
I wore the regular Acadias 8". My advice? Just buy Seal Skinz socks THEY WORK and are a life saver.

Azn_US_Marine
10-26-2006, 04:26 AM
Has anyone worn the Matterhorn 1998 USMC Infantry Combat Boot? I want to get one for myself to add to my uniform collection and for wear with civillian attire. If anyone reading this has a pair or have worn them before tell me wether they're good or not? Thank you...

USMC Tanker
10-26-2006, 04:56 AM
Matterhorn generally makes good boots. I'd give 'em a go.

Semper Fidelis

Ezekiel25:17
10-26-2006, 09:52 AM
If you are talking about the ones they issued us(Which I think). They are comfortable and good to go. Not made for hot weather though. I was station in K-bay and the only time I used them was when I was in the field.

ed316
10-26-2006, 11:14 AM
^^ IIRC the issues ones were made by Belleville.

b33f
10-29-2006, 06:13 PM
http://img159.imageshack.us/img159/1609/botach192030296042yv0.th.jpg (http://img159.imageshack.us/my.php?image=botach192030296042yv0.jpg)

I have "tested" the older, "classic" version once but not these.. does anyone own a pair of these and can give me a review, please?
Durability, breathability and general comfort are of most interest to me.

Meringue87
10-29-2006, 09:38 PM
Hi sorry just to veer off abit here how does the classic gsg 9 boots feel.

Connor Oz
10-30-2006, 11:13 AM
I've got a pair of Nike Tactical boots but they're getting too small for me now and I'm interested in getting a pair of these, so any reviews would be appretiated by me aswell :)

tango44
10-30-2006, 01:17 PM
I've got a pair of Nike Tactical boots but they're getting too small for me now and I'm interested in getting a pair of these, so any reviews would be appretiated by me aswell :)

Nike Tactical boots?

I never seen those can you provide a link?

Connor Oz
10-30-2006, 03:13 PM
Nike Tactical boots?

I never seen those can you provide a link?

Never found a link but Ii've got pictures I took for a friend a couple of weeks ago if it helps.

http://img46.imageshack.us/img46/5734/0bf2c3cebdeb4155a43bd56yh5.jpg

http://img114.imageshack.us/img114/9953/ca75400bde824dbb8699492ek9.jpg

I'm sorry that one's crap

b33f
10-30-2006, 03:22 PM
Thanks for the comments so far!


Hi sorry just to veer off abit here how does the classic gsg 9 boots feel.


I did not wear them for long but what i remember is that i found the section between shoelaces and tip too stiff for light boots. Apart from that they were comfortable.

Jabroni
10-30-2006, 03:38 PM
All the chavs will start buying them!

Christophe
10-30-2006, 03:49 PM
I dunno about the ´new style´Adidas GSG9´s,but the old style is very slippery in wet conditions.
I have a pair of Bates boots that have a Adidas style sole.I have them for three years now and they are still in great shape.They are very light,sturdy and NEVER slip (as compared to my Oakleys;slippery and very hot).Also,they are cheaper and protect the feet better (f.i. in riot situations).
Here´s the link: (E02145 Men's Bates Enforcer Series 8" Falcon Boot)

http://www.batesfootwear.com/Catalog/buydetail.asp?rnd=4061189&NavID=L:B&ProductID=8222&SizeTypeID=M&NavType=undefined

There´s also a GSG9 boot by HAIX.A few colleagues use them and are very satisfied.They are better for colder temperatures but more expensive then the Bates´.(RANGER GSG9).

http://www.haix.com/en/produkt.php?fpscid=117&fpgrid=13&from=line&fromid=13

Both are great for regular patrol work.
Hope this helps.
If you are in Europe I can give you the link to the stores that sell these boots.

Christophe
10-30-2006, 03:56 PM
Never found a link but Ii've got pictures I took for a friend a couple of weeks ago if it helps.

http://img46.imageshack.us/img46/5734/0bf2c3cebdeb4155a43bd56yh5.jpg

http://img114.imageshack.us/img114/9953/ca75400bde824dbb8699492ek9.jpg

I'm sorry that one's crap

Look like yet another copy of Magnum boots.
Famous brands don´t neccessarily make good LEO/tac boots.
Take Oakley for example.Great eyewear,but the boots imo suck big time.

b33f
10-30-2006, 04:15 PM
I dunno about the ´new style´Adidas GSG9´s,but the old style is very slippery in wet conditions.
I have a pair of Bates boots that have a Adidas style sole.I have them for three years now and they are still in great shape.They are very light,sturdy and NEVER slip (as compared to my Oakleys;slippery and very hot).Also,they are cheaper and protect the feet better (f.i. in riot situations).
Here´s the link: (E02145 Men's Bates Enforcer Series 8" Falcon Boot)

http://www.batesfootwear.com/Catalog/buydetail.asp?rnd=4061189&NavID=L:B&ProductID=8222&SizeTypeID=M&NavType=undefined

There´s also a GSG9 boot by HAIX.A few colleagues use them and are very satisfied.They are better for colder temperatures but more expensive then the Bates´.(RANGER GSG9).

http://www.haix.com/en/produkt.php?fpscid=117&fpgrid=13&from=line&fromid=13

Both are great for regular patrol work.
Hope this helps.
If you are in Europe I can give you the link to the stores that sell these boots.

I'm quite interested in those Bates boots, i also know a local store who sells them. Do you wear insoles with them? How do you clean them/keep them in shape?

California Joe
10-30-2006, 04:25 PM
I think Argyll may be wearing some tan versions of those in his album pics.

Christophe
10-30-2006, 04:27 PM
I'm quite interested in those Bates boots, i also know a local store who sells them. Do you wear insoles with them? How do you clean them/keep them in shape?

I don´t wear insoles in any boots.No need ´till now :-)
To clean them;basic black shoe polish.For mudstains,blood and such,a simple brush (when dried) or a sponge with a bit of water.They dry easily.
Only thing I don´t wear them for is riots with a risk of firebombs (molotovcocktails,as in my avatar).The soles will melt,but,90% of the boots will have their soles melt (in our dept,Magnums are notorious for that).If you need boots for that kind of abuse the best you can get are Danner Acadias,but these are a bit more expensive,and weigh a lot more (though they should last a lifetime).

Christophe
10-30-2006, 04:39 PM
I think Argyll may be wearing some tan versions of those in his album pics.


Seeing the first pic page on Argyll I believe he wears Adidas GSG9´s and Blackhawk Warrior Wear Light Assault Boot (http://www.blackhawk.com/product_detail.asp?product_id=4901&d=)

Would be interesting to hear a review of those Blackhawks by Argyll. :-)
All BTDT´s I spoke with (through the internet,like on (www.professionalsoldiers.com) aren´t too happy about BH.

What Blackhawk has to say about these boots:
BlackHawk! Warrior Wear™ Light Assault Boots are the fastest, lightest, most agile footwear designed specifically for the Special Operation Warrior. The highly ventilated upper and other water-friendly materials give the L.A.B. excellent ventilation and allow quick drying, making it ideal for waterborne operations. Features: Vibram® "Trail Run" oil-resistant rubber outsole in "TC4 Plus" sticky rubber compound for superior grip on all surfaces. Long-wearing, water-friendly Polyurethane midsole. Waterproof recycled molded insole board with built in shank for unsurpassed support. Ortholite® Custom Molded Footbed. Washable, Anti-Microbial. Unique open cell structure enables air to travel through and around the insole creating a cooler environment inside the shoe. OrthoLite® foams offer up to 95-100% breathability for maximum ventilation in and around the foot. Dri-Lex® inner lining wicks away moisture and dries quickly for maximum comfort. Double-layer, lightweight, breathable, nylon mesh and high-abrasion, quick-dry, synthetic microfiber upper found in the highest quality trail running shoes. Reticulated foam used throughout the boot ensures no water absorption unlike more commonly used polyurethane. Durable, rubberized toe and heel reinforcements provide unsurpassed abrasion and scuff resistance, especially when in a ****e position or kicking objects. Quick-close lace feature with durable, molded lace lock and hidden lace perforated pocket allows for immediate closure of boot with one hand. No need to stop and tie laces. Perforated pocket allows for the drainage of water and sand.

Christophe
10-30-2006, 05:15 PM
The soles are made to supress te noise under your boots
http://usaimages.wolverineworldwide.com/bulk/2005/3/18/BTS-WsoleFalcon-02-y.psd.fpx?cell=223,250&qlt=100&rgn=-1,0,1,0.372&afn=6.12303176911189E-17,1,0,0,-1,6.12303176911189E-17,0,0,0,0,1,0,0,0,0,1&cvt=jpeg

They look much the same as a fieldhockey shoe. But for grip stick to vibram.


Vibram soles are great,but the soles on the Bates´s are at least as good.I have done everything with them one can do during patrol,and they never let me down.On the contrary,with Oakleys I was on a foot pursuit and slipped on the wet ground;result:I hit the ground face first,which is embarassing to say the least.I never had that prob with my Bates´.And,indeed,they are very ****ing silent.
When they´re worn out I will without a doubt immediately get me a new pair.
In my opinion they are among the best light-weight patrol boots around.
Just my 2c.

Kilo Golf
11-15-2006, 10:32 PM
How were those Merrels holding up with heavy rucks?

TacoDelRio
11-16-2006, 01:07 AM
How were those Merrels holding up with heavy rucks?

If you mean me, they haven't seen alot. They'll get more use with heavy rucks and crampons / ice gear this winter/spring. Up to now, I've put less than 100 miles on them. They're doing alot better than my Salomons did.

TacoDelRio
11-16-2006, 01:15 AM
Awsome! I see you finally got a pair of Merrels! My babies are going on season 3 and they are still going strong. So don't expect to part with them anytime soon. Nice choice by the way..

They feel good.... I've never owned anything but issue boots, so "comfortable" boots are new and somewhat confusing to me. It's scary to drive while wearing them, as I can't feel the pedals.

But they're nice. No blisters... waterproof unless you go for a swim... sorta-rigid sole... I guess I'll see if I really like them as soon as it snows.

FROGFOOT-MKDN
11-16-2006, 05:30 AM
Very true about Salomon, they feel & look nice and are light, but if you use it daily, it lasts less than a year. Got my hands on a pair of Nevados 1 month ago, height just above the ankle, great stuff, so far like it a lot.

TacoDelRio
11-16-2006, 08:13 PM
I have Salomon trail runners that I've used in the mountains and desert before on numrous occasions. I still wear them. I run alot (no car), and they are slowly falling apart. When I first got them, some seams busted, namely on the tongue. The sole is coming off on one side. Kinda bugged me that some seams busted within a week before I even ran in them.

The construction of similar shoes by Merrell seems a bit better. Alot of it seems to be stitching.

FROGFOOT-MKDN
11-20-2006, 10:26 AM
Hate to repeat myself, but Planika & Alpina, both made in Slovenia, are one of the best boots, I ever wore.

tifosi
11-22-2006, 09:24 AM
how bout oakley S.I. boots? any gud reviews about it?

im planning to get 1 thnx

FROGFOOT-MKDN
11-22-2006, 10:13 AM
Lot of people on this forum claim Oakley makes good sunglasses, but their boots are below average.

Kilo Golf
11-22-2006, 02:59 PM
I have a pair of desert Oakleys and the only time I used them was at halo and some of the gluing is starting to come apart. However, some of my buddies have been using them and they have been holding up.

Catch22
11-23-2006, 06:39 AM
Oh c'mon, above certain (high) pricetag most shoes from respectable brands are worth having, plus are quite similiar. That is the case with European brands at least. Can't say for US or Canadian ones - I've seen some debatable but overpriced designs coming form there. I wear Meindl's Island Pro for the cold wet season and I doubt if there are many Hanwags, Haix, Asolos, Raichles, Lowas, Scarpas, Whatevas that would made a significant diffrence to them... Just make sure you have the cash - then stick to the good brand, have a reasonable warranty and properly care for them (waterproofing, insoles) and you're good to go.

BrianT
11-23-2006, 09:25 AM
So we can't wear Merrells anymore very soon. Anyone want to recommend me a desert tan 8" tall boot?

J-Bags
11-25-2006, 07:39 AM
US Airborne Matterhorn jump boots, tread grip isn't wonderful and a bit heavy but dead comfy, beautiful stitching, and pretty tough wearing. A nice piece of kit.

James
11-25-2006, 09:04 AM
So we can't wear Merrells anymore very soon. Anyone want to recommend me a desert tan 8" tall boot?

Go back to the first post and read... I'm sure you'll find a couple of recommendations... :cantbeli:

BrianT
11-25-2006, 10:15 AM
Go back to the first post and read... I'm sure you'll find a couple of recommendations... :cantbeli:
Hum those Mendls look nice. How much do they weigh?

Gerle
11-25-2006, 07:39 PM
Meindl Desert Foxes weigh about 3.25 lbs per pair, or 1490 g. Amazing what you can find out if you look for stuff yourself...

BrianT
11-25-2006, 09:24 PM
Jesus ****ing christ, I momentarily forgot this is called *******photos.net.

Gerle
11-25-2006, 10:03 PM
Blasphemy is really cool, you know, makes you look pretty classy in my opinion.

How come you think anyone has the weight of their boots memorized? Admit it, you were just too lazy to look it up.

Oh yeah, by the way, you are welcome.

USMC_VA
11-25-2006, 10:44 PM
Jesus ****ing christ, I momentarily forgot this is called *******photos.net.


the many and the proud

lasershothungary
12-06-2006, 10:20 AM
Try this
http://www.lowa.de/english/index.html
products-specials-taskforce

I had a supercamp and it was exelent.

khukuri
12-08-2006, 07:34 PM
My last for only for 3 month and broke the leather. I use Lowa and Proboot now.

My merells are still around, theyre wery comfortable but dont hold that long.


How were those Merrels holding up with heavy rucks?

I used them one month straight with heavy loads and they did good. Buttheleather is of bad quality. It rips very easy.


If you mean me, they haven't seen alot. They'll get more use with heavy rucks and crampons / ice gear this winter/spring. Up to now, I've put less than 100 miles on them. They're doing alot better than my Salomons did.


Ice walking or ice climbing. Theyre B2 standard which is fine for walking, but for climbing I use theese

ASOLO AFX EXPEDITION
http://i17.ebayimg.com/03/i/000/78/e3/4cf5_1.JPG

TacoDelRio
12-08-2006, 08:21 PM
Khukuri: Those boots are hurting my eyes! Good boots though. :)

N-G-F-O
12-09-2006, 08:04 AM
http://www.hanwag.co.uk/acatalog/LIMA-GTX-ANTHRAZIT.jpg

Hanwag Lima Gtx, fantasticly comfortable and durable class b boot.

Laconian
12-09-2006, 09:34 AM
My desert 5.11 HRTs have been a good boot. I got them just before my 3 month stint in Doha & Iraq and wore them every other day, rotating them out with a pair of Columbia Tiger Tooth.
I didn't do any extended patrolling, but I put a good bit of mileage just walking around, climbing up and around and over stuff. I also used them for extra support doing heavy squats in them and running 800m for workouts. They were good. No separations and pretty good tread life so far. I like them better than the regular black 5.11 HRT boots.

khukuri
12-09-2006, 03:02 PM
Khukuri: Those boots are hurting my eyes! Good boots though. :)



Duuuuuuuuuuude I know! Its a horrible colour, you could get them in black, but I chose yellow in the end. Its this military sickness thing you know. As ex-army or just a military-moron you just cant, just cant buy a single piece of kit thats not either Olive-drab green or black, in some cases desert colour. So all my stuff, packs, jackets etc are olive drab or black. And doesnt matter whether the gear is gonna haul ammunition or groceries from the market. Its not that good when youre out chasing snowy and icy peaks. SO I bought yellow shiny boots, blue berghaus scale jacket and are still looking for a shiny backpackcover!

TacoDelRio
12-09-2006, 05:05 PM
Duuuuuuuuuuude I know! Its a horrible colour, you could get them in black, but I chose yellow in the end. Its this military sickness thing you know. As ex-army or just a military-moron you just cant, just cant buy a single piece of kit thats not either Olive-drab green or black, in some cases desert colour. So all my stuff, packs, jackets etc are olive drab or black. And doesnt matter whether the gear is gonna haul ammunition or groceries from the market. Its not that good when youre out chasing snowy and icy peaks. SO I bought yellow shiny boots, blue berghaus scale jacket and are still looking for a shiny backpackcover!

There are ways to get around the colors. I haven't used my boots on heavy snow or ice climbing yet, but I'll find out as soon as it snows.

gonzaleznj
12-11-2006, 01:31 PM
Just signed back up with the marines and i got issued these pair of bates:
http://usaimages.wolverineworldwide.com/bulk/2006/3/9/BTS-W40501-04-yR.psd.fpx?cell=223,250&qlt=80&CVT=jpeg

theyre completely horrible on my heels :|.

Was interested in this pair the Bates Lightweight boots:
http://usaimages.wolverineworldwide.com/bulk/2004/11/24/BTS-W50501-04-y.psd.fpx?cell=223,250&qlt=80&CVT=jpeg

Anybody wanna weigh in maybe have these or have other brands that are better?

ed316
12-11-2006, 01:35 PM
http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/showthread.php?t=84159

jimmyboots
12-11-2006, 01:52 PM
I used the lightweights on my last 4months and can vouch for them. They were really comfortable and didn't need to be broken in. I felt the difference in weight too. YMMV.

gonzaleznj
12-11-2006, 02:02 PM
thanks for thread "Leonidas"... alot of good info there.
Thing is i want these for garrison, day to day to wear on base etc.
So im not to sure on the rules with boots without the EGA logo on the heel.

For the field and such I wouldnt care so much about that:
speaking of which for the field I want these:


Garmont T8 Jungles

http://www.extremeoutfitters.us/ProductImages/m8details.jpg

ZoneOne
12-11-2006, 02:03 PM
http://www.batesfootwear.com/Catalog/buydetail.asp?rnd=3636623&NavID=M:B&ProductID=10134&SizeTypeID=M&NavType=undefined

these are great boots

gonzaleznj
12-11-2006, 02:07 PM
I used the lightweights on my last 4months and can vouch for them. They were really comfortable and didn't need to be broken in. I felt the difference in weight too. YMMV.

so they felt better than the regular issued ones?
These lightweight PT boots are kinda pricey.....

what are the regs? do they have to have the EGA on the heel?
cuz Danner has a real cool pair but it doesnt come with the EGA
desert acadias.

gonzaleznj
12-11-2006, 02:09 PM
http://www.batesfootwear.com/Catalog/buydetail.asp?rnd=3636623&NavID=M:B&ProductID=10134&SizeTypeID=M&NavType=undefined

these are great boots

Ive seen some recon guys wear a similar looking pair in pictures...
Can I wear these in garrison though?

jimmyboots
12-11-2006, 02:50 PM
Ive seen some recon guys wear a similar looking pair in pictures...
Can I wear these in garrison though?

No, you needed Marine Corps endorsed boots when in the rear. Of course this is subject to change with each unit. It all comes down to unit discretion. If you want better boots now, get them with an ega.

Createdeemcee
12-11-2006, 02:50 PM
I hear the Oakleys are awesome and are acceptable as uniform.

jimmyboots
12-11-2006, 02:53 PM
I hear the Oakleys are awesome and are acceptable as uniform.

you won't see many guys walking around Lejuene with Oakleys. they may be fine in iraq but thats not the case in the rear for regular guys.

Twombly
12-11-2006, 03:02 PM
you won't see many guys walking around Lejuene with Oakleys. they may be fine in iraq but thats not the case in the rear for regular guys.
Right. And Oakleys are the Recon thing. Not for the Grunts.

James
12-11-2006, 03:37 PM
I hear the Oakleys are awesome and are acceptable as uniform.

Really? I heard that Oakley should stick to what they know: sunglasses.

LthrnckZero
12-11-2006, 07:03 PM
Get the standard belleville jungle boot for the rear, it's available at any cash sales you go to. Mine are like a pair of sneakers.

For the field, I go with Danners. They cost twice as much, but Danners are the **** and will last longer than the bellevilles. There is a version that has the insignia on it. Not nearly as available as the others, I got mine from the boot store in Quantico. http://www.quanticoboot.com/

Go find the person that issued you those bates and slap them around for a while. I refuse to wear mine because they tear up my heels and to a lesser extent, my toes. They are just straight up junk.

devil99
12-11-2006, 08:28 PM
Do any of you have experience with the Canadian army issued boots or have a link to where I could find that information?

gonzaleznj
12-11-2006, 08:55 PM
yeah those bates i have (at the top of the post) suck.
Ill try to check out some bellevilles. The hot weather Corcoran's on that site look pretty sweet.

hmuller68
12-12-2006, 04:03 AM
IMHO MCCB's by Belleville are awesome stuff...
It's a pleasure to wear this boots woot

Azn_US_Marine
12-12-2006, 11:30 AM
Just get Belleville Jungles, they dont take very long to break in and they're very comfortable. Very cheap too (I bought a new pair at Cash Sales for $65 before deploying) The pair of the older style Danner Marine Hot I bought from Quanticoboot.com doesnt fit properly, so if you're going to shell out money for Danners, its better to go to the Cash Sales at Mainside (if you're also from Camp Pendleton) and have them fitted.

I've noticed with the Bates, the leather sucks. It gets dirty too easily and they can discolor badly, the laces turn red too. Even after being caked with sand and mud, my Bellevilles look brand new again after washing them and cleaning them. My deployment issue pair of Bates arent even my size since they didnt have any my size, so they sit near my bed, alongside my Danners that doesn't fit comfortably either. :-(

I've seen Marines in the rear wear Altama deserts with the Panama sole, but I wont advise on doing that, MAYBE unless the uniform of the day is deserts. Its stupid to wear a bright tan boot with woodlands anyway.

Jsjoholm
12-12-2006, 12:54 PM
I picked up a pair of Merrell Sawtooths some weeks ago and used them for two weeks in Tikrit - the sole on the left boot started to seperate from the shoe after one week though. I have emailed Merrell about this but they haven't gotten back to me as of yet.

jimmyboots
12-12-2006, 01:32 PM
I wore my altamas for two deployments, and once they broke in i loved them.

Hippo
12-13-2006, 10:51 PM
Im going to go to Lake Tahoe in a couple of days and I do not have snow boots so would it be a bad idea to use my 5.11 HRT boots in the snow?

ShakesFIST
12-13-2006, 11:34 PM
Im going to go to Lake Tahoe in a couple of days and I do not have snow boots so would it be a bad idea to use my 5.11 HRT boots in the snow?

Just the name "5.11 HRT Desert Boots" implies you shouldn't wear them in snow...

Laworkerbee
12-14-2006, 12:09 AM
Just the name "5.11 HRT Desert Boots" implies you shouldn't wear them in snow...

Haha yeah no ****

TacoDelRio
12-14-2006, 12:20 AM
I nearly lost toes doing that before. The 5.11's are supposed to be waterproof (correct me if I'm wrong), but snow is a tad different.

devil99
12-14-2006, 12:41 AM
Another don't are the Magnums, stay away from thos boots.

TacoDelRio
12-14-2006, 01:13 AM
Another don't are the Magnums, stay away from thos boots.

That's what I used. Mine lasted longer than most folks... but the 5.11's are better.

What kind of snow hike is this? How much time, where, etc?

striker
12-14-2006, 06:33 AM
Another don't are the Magnums, stay away from thos boots.
Concur, while they are warm enough they offer absolutely no grip on snow and ice.

akmarksman
12-14-2006, 06:35 AM
Another don't are the Magnums, stay away from thos boots.
odd..I wear standard white socks and then some grey wool bootsocks and that's all I need when I'm wearing my magnums outside,and these aren't cold weather boots..they are the stealth magnums..and last year I used the side zip magnums without a problem.
I haven't gotten frostbite toes or cold toes..the most I have gotten is sweaty toes,and that was at the 8 hour mark in 15F snowy weather.

akmarksman
12-14-2006, 07:26 AM
my magnums lasted me about a year of hard use..
the danner's weight is the drawback..but useful for interrogations ;)
For cheap boots(sometimes build quality othertimes price)..use the magnums..but I wouldn't use mine for desert or active duty.they do feel like reeboks though..and for long days that helps.

Magnum stealth for hiking n general winter use. (but not below -40F..)

Hippo
12-14-2006, 09:52 AM
thanks for the input guys

Sneeker
12-14-2006, 01:06 PM
Where I work It gets real cold and real snowy. Try -35degrees celcius without wind chill and foot deep snow. The the next day it will be +2 with the snow still on the ground melting. Usually I have a problem with boots being to damn cold or to damn soggy. So this year I invested in a par of Danner Acadia boots, non steel toe with 200gram thinsulate and Gortex. This year in Edmonton the winter has been hell but my feet have been warm and dry. All I have been had on in the boots is a pair of thermal socks. Dont double up because if your boots are too tight thats when your feet get cold and that sucks.
Ps. Dont take Rough out leather boot into snow conditions. Take a polished boot. Because no matter what if your feet get wet your feet get cold.
I also work outside for 12 hrs a day somtimes with no breaks on concrete... but usually with breaks. :)

ZaakM433
12-14-2006, 01:09 PM
Chalk another one up to you get what you pay for.

Sneeker
12-14-2006, 01:44 PM
about time.

Gunz76
12-18-2006, 07:19 AM
Correct me if I'm wrong but dessert boots are most often suede and from my experience up here in the great white north snow and suede don't mix very well. I personally don't wear my desserts (swat AR) in the snow. I was on an OP in the Arctic last year and our Cold wet weather (CWW) boots worked alright for short periods but you can't beat a good pair of muclucs. If it comes down to it get some chemical heater packs to put in your boots but get the foot ones that are designed to go under your foot. Don't buy battery heated socks because if you are out on the land and your batteries die on you now you have nice wires running through your socks and around your feet which will cause your feet to become cold even faster. Just my input hope it helps.

ex Strathcona
12-18-2006, 07:42 AM
dessert boots have no business being worn in winter ops period.
no grip on snow and ice (you will fall down a lot)
no insulation (you may loose toes)
no moister resistance (your feet will be wet withing 30 minutes in snowy conditions) then see point #2 about the lack of toes.

get the Danner Acadias and keep em polished up cause snow and ice wear are hard on leather and that lets in the moisture.

Gunz76
12-18-2006, 07:45 AM
muclucs...
http://www.combatcamera.forces.gc.ca/netpub/server.np?original=18389&site=combatcamera&catalog=photos&aspect&width=430 (http://www.combatcamera.forces.gc.ca/netpub/server.np?original=18389&site=combatcamera&catalog=photos&download)



http://www.army.forces.gc.ca/lf/English/2_display.asp?product=112


and you can find more out about CWW boots here...

Pidyon Shevuyim
12-19-2006, 04:33 PM
yeah i know there has been alot of threads in the past few weeks on boots. however i really need your guys help.

im leaving for Africa in the next few weeks where i will spend the next month and a half of my life. i need a good (VERY GOD) pair of boots that will keep up with the intence terrian i will be traveling through every hour of every day for the next month in a half, but at the same time be comfterble. any recommendations would be great, even better by people who have been in the North and South African terrain..at this point money isnt an issue, so dont be afriad to list the expesive stuff...

also and recommendations on pants would be great too.

thanks

Yimmy
12-19-2006, 06:34 PM
I went to the Namibian desert in Damaraland for two months, and just used a pair of British Army lightweight jungle boots I had laying around. Perhaps an odd choice, but I already owned them so they were free and never got used.

They worked fine... got a bit dodgy climbing the little rocky mountains they have there when the soles had melted smooth mind.:)

ZoneOne
12-19-2006, 06:55 PM
Either the Bates m6 or the Bates m9 -- same boot just hightop and lowtop.

Great boots, enough said.

Limeyfellow
12-19-2006, 11:00 PM
Thats a rather weird range of terrain your covering from large deserts, scrubland, jungle, coastal regions and alsorts. A decent alround boots like the Bates though should work or maybe some decent lowes. Installation shouldn't be too much of a problem this time a year at least.

playtym
12-20-2006, 01:37 AM
i need a good (VERY GOD) pair of boots that will keep up with the intence terrian i will be traveling through every hour of every day for the next month in a half, but at the same time be comfterble. any recommendations would be great, even better by people who have been in the North and South African terrain..at this point money isnt an issue, so dont be afriad to list the expesive stuff...

What exactly are you going to be doing, packpacking across the continet, or invading? Do you need something tactical or simply a good hiking boot?

Also bear in mind that in Africa there's always a good chance you'll be killed for those boots.

Apogee
12-20-2006, 02:16 AM
whatever you do, make sure you break them in before you go

Sloppy Joe2
12-20-2006, 04:40 AM
whatever you do, make sure you break them in before you go
most important thing to consider! ^

i recommend oakley boots, very comfortable and durable as well

gilgoul
12-20-2006, 04:58 AM
yeah i know there has been alot of threads in the past few weeks on boots. however i really need your guys help.

im leaving for Africa in the next few weeks where i will spend the next month and a half of my life. i need a good (VERY GOD) pair of boots that will keep up with the intence terrian i will be traveling through every hour of every day for the next month in a half, but at the same time be comfterble. any recommendations would be great, even better by people who have been in the North and South African terrain..at this point money isnt an issue, so dont be afriad to list the expesive stuff...

also and recommendations on pants would be great too.

thanks

Are you going to do both desert and equatorial/tropical conditions?
Are you going to carry a heavy back pack every day on long distances?
Are you going to cross wet?
Are you gonna be exposed to cold (believe me, there are some really cold places on the continent, if only at night)
Do you want to keep low profile or can you afford to leave a signature of OMG F$$$ing Delta?


For the pants, I always travel with a pair of khaki and light blue BDU like pants, one in ripstop and one in regular cotton, they dry relatively fast, don't look too bad even stained and dirty and don't get too wrinkled (important if you pay a visit to an official to get a visa for instance).
Plus, you can let them loose on your shoes in town, and tie them up when humping, so you don't ruin them immediately and avoid to have some really unpleasant stuff crawling up you leg to your weewee.

If you go trecking in those hot and humid places, get yourself a mini hammock (20$ at max) and a cheiche when you get there, they are as necessary as the towel for the galaxy hitch hiker.

gilgoul
12-20-2006, 05:04 AM
I went to the Namibian desert in Damaraland for two months, and just used a pair of British Army lightweight jungle boots I had laying around. Perhaps an odd choice, but I already owned them so they were free and never got used.

They worked fine... got a bit dodgy climbing the little rocky mountains they have there when the soles had melted smooth mind.:)

LOL, that's about what happened to my ALTAMA panama jungle boots in the Negev desert, they are now slick as a racing tire and got such a beating in years of intensive wearing that they are now in my shoes mausoleum, with my BJA, my matterhorn and my old IDF shoes.
Beside, and despite they were not as comfy as the last space-technology-all-climates-coffee-machine-air-conditioning-step-for-you boots, they where the most comfortable boots I eve wore in hot climate (both Guyane and Israel)

Catch22
12-20-2006, 05:17 AM
Considering the cost-effectivness I'd follow Gilgoul advice. Get a khaki cotton (or NYCO for a second pair) ripstop BDU pants (you can always add some things like pockets you'll find usefull if you are good with needle too). Get a pair of good desert Altamas + a stock of good shock absorbing insoles. And do as SCUBA said - break them in good for a few weeks! This way you should get relatively cheap and durable kit for your trip. I could advice you on some pricey-fancy stuff, like desert Meindls I use myself, but I suppose if your trip is going to be really that intensive as you wrote - you'll probably wear out the shoes you brought anyway, so consider cost issues.

My .02 cents

PS. Don't forget about the pics for us!

Pidyon Shevuyim
12-20-2006, 07:35 AM
thanks for your help guys! i'll be mainly in Nigeria, but also last part of my trip in SA on a film shoot. so i'll be carrieing alot of weight. and doing alot of hiking in both places..

ZoneOne
12-20-2006, 06:37 PM
I would also suggest the Courtney Boot - a wide range and they are very specific to the area you are heading to. Well worth the money, they will outlast you.

Rubes
12-24-2006, 02:42 PM
Watch out for the snakes.

Jsjoholm
12-24-2006, 07:28 PM
Has anyone tried out the Blackhawk/BHI "WarriorWear" Light Assault Boot?

BrianT
12-24-2006, 08:09 PM
Has anyone tried out the Blackhawk/BHI "WarriorWear" Light Assault Boot?
As a matterfact, I did yesterday. Its extremely light and comfortable. I opted for the Desert Ops instead because they seemed a bit more breathable and just make more sense since I'll be using them in Iraq. I can't comment on the durability. I'll get back to you in a year.

loganinkosovo
12-24-2006, 08:46 PM
My desert 5.11 HRTs have been a good boot. I got them just before my 3 month stint in Doha & Iraq and wore them every other day, rotating them out with a pair of Columbia Tiger Tooth.
I didn't do any extended patrolling, but I put a good bit of mileage just walking around, climbing up and around and over stuff. I also used them for extra support doing heavy squats in them and running 800m for workouts. They were good. No separations and pretty good tread life so far. I like them better than the regular black 5.11 HRT boots.

My black pair are already seperating in places with just walking in the gravel around camp in kosovo for six months. The sand pair are still in good shape but I haven't worn them as much. They are a comfortable boot though and are high enough to give good ankle support that you wont find in the low cut hiking type boots I've seen posted here.

When it come to ruggedness though....you still can't beat an issue boot, but comfort always comes in second with them. :)

BrianT
12-27-2006, 07:17 PM
So, the Blackhawks were on backorder 'til like March in my size. I went ahead and switched them out for the Garmont T8s. These boots are pretty damn sweet. Light, comfortable, plenty of ankle support. They also make a 6" boot if you're into hiking style deals with a desert tan color. Those interested in a boot should look it up. They don't look all retarded looking either, which is one of the reasons I was interested in them.

FROGFOOT-MKDN
12-28-2006, 08:49 AM
This is the footwear I currently use.

1. Ridge Blackhawk Plus, bought in US, September '97, 57 $, still going strong even after 9 years, light, waterproof, keeps feet warm even in -20 Celsius.

2. Alpina, alpine hiking boots, 20 years old, got them from my father, look old, but function as new, heavy, very soild manufacture.

3. Nevados, got them for 2 months, 30 $, very light, extremely comfortable, I'll see how long they'll last.

4. Planika, 2 years old, paid around 100 $ in equivalent Macedonian currency, great manufacture, keeps feet warm & dry, waterproof.

All except the Nevados, are made from leather.

uglybaby
01-11-2007, 05:29 PM
Does anyone know where I can purchase a pair of desert combat boots in digital camo? I have a pair of 5.11 HRT boots that I got in a combo deal at lapolicegear.com last year but no one seems to sell them anymore. They aren't listed on the 5.11 site either. Any other boots that you know of that come in a digital camouflage? They're for a female and I style is gonna be more important than tactical function.

H3
01-11-2007, 06:09 PM
Does anyone know where I can purchase a pair of desert combat boots in digital camo? They're for a female and style is gonna be more important than tactical function.

When she's got them on can we see the photos please !!!!!!!!

the_recruit
01-11-2007, 06:10 PM
When she's got them on can we see the photos please !!!!!!!!


Yeah seriously those most look bugged out.

LRPV
01-11-2007, 06:16 PM
Love the Chuck Norris avatar...

uglybaby
01-11-2007, 08:37 PM
If someone gives me some boots to put this little hottie in I'll try and get a picture up.

LRPV
01-11-2007, 09:27 PM
If someone gives me some boots to put this little hottie in I'll try and get a picture up.

If she's that good...don't bother with the boots....:)

Roanoke
01-11-2007, 09:27 PM
Err....

http://www.uscav.com/Productinfo.aspx?productID=7880&TabID=1&CatID=84

That?

It says it's in desert digital.

uglybaby
01-12-2007, 06:16 AM
Thanks for the suggestion but...I'd never get photos if I suggested those as a replacement. I have an inquiry in to 5.11 and lapolicegear.com where I originally bought them. Nobody else seems to make one in desert digital that I can find. Strange, because there was a time about a year ago when digital and marpat where in vogue so I thought I'd find some cheap knockoff's or something.

miguelencanarias
01-12-2007, 11:58 AM
Colombians use digital camo boots now. Ask a Colombian member of the forum if he can get them.

uglybaby
01-12-2007, 05:29 PM
Okay they are discontinued and haven't found any on ebay. I'll keep looking. I'll check out the Colombian suggestion thanks for the help.

Dan2004
01-15-2007, 07:27 PM
Not exactly digital desert...

http://1starmy.com/viewproduct.asp?Productno=2731

Not even close.

-[Crosshair]-
01-15-2007, 07:39 PM
Actual digital camouflage boots will be really hard to find, since armies just use regular tan boots normally.

CDNsoldier_r
01-15-2007, 07:49 PM
have u seen the cadpat boots yet crosshair?

Roy Batty
01-15-2007, 08:35 PM
-;2235458']Actual digital camouflage boots will be really hard to find, since armies just use regular tan boots normally.

true. The 58,000 of us wearing black boots are just an anomaly. p-)

maple.leaf
01-16-2007, 07:14 AM
Not exactly digital desert...

http://1starmy.com/viewproduct.asp?Productno=2731

Not even close.

http://1starmy.com/uploadimages/Product_2731.jpg

What crack-head designed those? :cantbeli:

Argyll
01-16-2007, 08:10 AM
They were on offer with LAPolice gear as they're a discontinued article.

-[Crosshair]-
01-16-2007, 07:22 PM
have u seen the cadpat boots yet crosshair?

http://forums.army.ca/gallery2/main.php?g2_view=core.DownloadItem&g2_itemId=16772&g2_serialNumber=1

I really don't want those. :cantbeli:

DevilDogHopeful
01-16-2007, 07:25 PM
-;2238449']http://forums.army.ca/gallery2/main.php?g2_view=core.DownloadItem&g2_itemId=16772&g2_serialNumber=1

I really don't want those. :cantbeli:

Are they really going to issue the Canadian Soldiers those things? I don't know about the rest of you but ...UGLY.

-[Crosshair]-
01-16-2007, 07:35 PM
I've never even heard about it until now, my guess would be no.

H3
01-17-2007, 03:51 AM
When she's got them on can we see the photos please !!!!!!!!

Soooo much interest in helping you find those boot's , or is it we just want to see the photos of the intended wear-er !!

memphiz
01-18-2007, 02:45 PM
Are they really going to issue the Canadian Soldiers those things? I don't know about the rest of you but ...UGLY.
It was a trial Idea that never went through, becouse you couldnt polish them, all that came with the boots was a OD paste to put on, and eventually the boot just became OD.

the_recruit
01-18-2007, 05:53 PM
-;2238449']http://forums.army.ca/gallery2/main.php?g2_view=core.DownloadItem&g2_itemId=16772&g2_serialNumber=1

I really don't want those. :cantbeli:

Thats wat i thought they were gunna look like, and yes, they are ugly. but its doesnt have to look good to be good. It may very well be helpful

Roy Batty
01-18-2007, 05:57 PM
It was a trial Idea that never went through, becouse you couldnt polish them, all that came with the boots was a OD paste to put on, and eventually the boot just became OD.

I have seen a number of bozzos from The puzzle palace wearing them and they use "Kiwi Neutral" on the boots so they don't turn OD.

memphiz
01-19-2007, 08:07 PM
I have seen a number of bozzos from The puzzle palace wearing them and they use "Kiwi Neutral" on the boots so they don't turn OD.
Haha what a bunch of wankers

"Im so cool, im completly CADPAT"

bilbo baggins
01-22-2007, 06:29 AM
(http://forums.army.ca/gallery2/main.php?g2_view=core.DownloadItem&g2_itemId=16772&g2_serialNumber=1)http://forums.army.ca/gallery2/main....serialNumber=1 (http://forums.army.ca/gallery2/main.php?g2_view=core.DownloadItem&g2_itemId=16772&g2_serialNumber=1)

I really don't want those. :cantbeli:
(http://forums.army.ca/gallery2/main.php?g2_view=core.DownloadItem&g2_itemId=16772&g2_serialNumber=1)

Reminds me of the line from one of the SHREK movies when Donkey says "My feet, my feet, I can't see my feet!" rofl

MBTex
02-22-2007, 03:37 PM
So how have these held up. Over the year.

stuntman
02-22-2007, 10:38 PM
Well so far my merrels are ending thier second season and they are holding up like new. For some strange reason they actually feel more comfortable..:)

TacoDelRio
02-23-2007, 02:34 AM
My Phaser Peak's are great. Only had them since last august, but have put tons of miles on them. Nothing has fallen off yet. I've never worn such comfortable shoes. They're so comfortable that they kind of piss me off, since I don't feel anything at all.
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y222/TacoDelRio/Telegraph%20Pk%20NE%20Face/DSC03618.jpg

Karo
02-23-2007, 06:14 PM
Hi,

just a short question: does anybody know the exact name of the ADIDAS sneakers worn by Spetsnaz? (rightest one in the pic)

http://www.rms3d.com/images/Chechnya/2/IMG_9276.jpg


Thanks in forward!


best regards

Herrmannek
02-23-2007, 07:11 PM
Adidas? I would not put a penny on this... Trademark sports shoes are quite expensive and post commie countries aren't known from enforcing trade mark protection... Its more like to be knock off... I can't help you with exact model...

silveykyle
02-23-2007, 07:19 PM
They look like sambas or gazelles, they are indoor soccer shoes.

Lov3ll
02-23-2007, 07:21 PM
They look like Adidas Berlin
http://www.trainerstation.com/adidas-brand-history.html

GazB
02-23-2007, 09:55 PM
They are hardly Spetsnaz issue. This guy probably bought them with his own money from a local shoe shop... they could be locally made near somewhere where he was based. Some might call them adidas, but there are a dozen different makers of such shoe types and it could be any one of those. Having three *****es is a signature of Adidas, but hardly exclusive, or concrete evidence. A lot of western shoe makers have their shoes made in countries with weak labour laws in sweat shops. More often than not those sweat shops produce extra products after hours that could be going anywhere with any label on the box. Profits going into managers pockets... the workers just get an extra shift and their dollar a week pay packet...

redfox0035
02-23-2007, 10:22 PM
During the Soviet-Afghan War, Soviets used Chinese copies of the Adidas sneaker.

Nope, there were a lot of different sneakers in Afghanistan (incl. originals), but most praised were so called "Moscow adidas", licensed Adidas sneakers made in USSR:

http://www.efsi.ru/eng/about-kco-history.php

Since then they become very popular as extremely cheap, comfortable and durable shoes.

That's some modern variations:

http://www.efsi.ru/eng/products_00.php?Id=8&Start=11
http://www.efsi.ru/eng/products_00.php?Id=8&Start=16

nilz
02-24-2007, 12:05 AM
Either Gazelles or Berlins, leaning towards Gazelles...

redfox0035
02-24-2007, 04:10 PM
by Misha Pozhininsky
"They held up better on the rocks and you could run in them without carrying the weight of iron on your legs. I got a pair of these myself. They were made by the Chinese and after some problems the merchants got a connection that would supply them."

There were different types of them: the most praised were "Moscow-made" (dark blue color with white *****es); made by Kimri shoes plant were less confortable than "Moscow adidas", but more durable; all kinds of no-name & chinese replicas, and the orinal westerners. The irony was that original western shoes were the first ones that were frayed torn on Afghanistan rocks.

Karo
02-24-2007, 07:00 PM
Thanks for your replies!

GazB
02-24-2007, 08:21 PM
The irony was that original western shoes were the first ones that were frayed torn on Afghanistan rocks.

Not really ironic. Western shoes of that type were probably made by the lowest bidder for people who never left paved footpaths. The money that was charged for these shoes more often went to the name in the name brand rather than in the materials used to make them. The customer in the west is more often worried about fashion and wearing the right name than the average spetsnaz soldier I would think.

BTW can't believe a thread is about gymshoes (as we here in NZ call them) from a photo that includes a Pecheneg maching gun... any one know how that weapon is performing?

GNR
02-26-2007, 04:16 PM
My issue cadilacs have seen better days and it's time to replace them.
Who makes the best boots?

1AssToRisk
02-26-2007, 04:33 PM
Danner.. Hands down. No need for anyone else to post anything.

Exer
02-26-2007, 04:38 PM
altama for me

Carib
02-26-2007, 04:51 PM
altama for me

i second that, here here

b33f
02-26-2007, 04:54 PM
Haix

0123456789

nickless
02-26-2007, 05:18 PM
The traditional german boot makers like Meindl, Lowa or Hanwag all make excellent boots and they have a black military line. I own a pair of Hanwag "Yukon" for rough terrain and a pair of Meindl "Desert All Terrain" as a lighter boot.

I'm not too convinced of Haix - as far as I know, they only started making military boots again some time ago, so they lack the years of experience the other companies have from the civilian market. They made some mistakes when they designed the new mountain boot for the Bundeswehr, which then got rejected.

Between the other companies, I would base my decision on the fit of the boots - Meindls are on the wide side, Lowas are narrow.

GunnerBhoy
02-26-2007, 05:21 PM
mite get some stick for this put ive got a pair of Pro Boots, walked getting on a hundred miles in em, there water pfroof and very comfy.

zootia
02-26-2007, 05:25 PM
I use USMC bates. Very comfy and sturdy

Bobbo_
02-26-2007, 05:31 PM
I just got my bates bootes. I have no experience with any others, but they rock... For my use at least.

gaijinsamurai
02-26-2007, 07:00 PM
My favorites are Danner. #2 are the Corcoran (non-paratrooper).

Rekka
02-26-2007, 07:12 PM
The traditional german boot makers like Meindl, Lowa or Hanwag all make excellent boots and they have a black military line. I own a pair of Hanwag "Yukon" for rough terrain and a pair of Meindl "Desert All Terrain" as a lighter boot.

I'm not too convinced of Haix - as far as I know, they only started making military boots again some time ago, so they lack the years of experience the other companies have from the civilian market. They made some mistakes when they designed the new mountain boot for the Bundeswehr, which then got rejected.

Between the other companies, I would base my decision on the fit of the boots - Meindls are on the wide side, Lowas are narrow.

Couldn't agree with you more.

As i have narrow feet i have ownwd a couple of Lowa mountain boots for about 15 months now and the quality is excellent. I also really liked the fact that they didn't have to be 'walked in' you just strap them on and off you go.

tango44
02-26-2007, 07:29 PM
Oakley For Me

digrar
02-26-2007, 07:30 PM
My issue cadilacs have seen better days and it's time to replace them.
Who makes the best boots?

http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/showthread.php?t=84159&highlight=boots

http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/showthread.php?t=100336&highlight=boots

http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/showthread.php?t=78641&highlight=boots

http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/showthread.php?t=102199&highlight=boots

http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/showthread.php?t=99836&highlight=boots

http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/showthread.php?t=99587&highlight=boots

http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/showthread.php?t=95571&highlight=boots

http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/showthread.php?t=95251&highlight=boots

http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/showthread.php?t=83872&highlight=boots

http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/showthread.php?t=85547&highlight=boots

http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/showthread.php?t=79477&highlight=boots

http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/showthread.php?t=79220&highlight=boots

http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/showthread.php?t=77600&highlight=boots

http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/showthread.php?t=78622&highlight=boots

http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/showthread.php?t=78123&highlight=boots

http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/showthread.php?t=76900&highlight=boots

http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/showthread.php?t=75844&highlight=boots

http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/showthread.php?t=75985&highlight=boots

RomanS
02-26-2007, 09:44 PM
Pecheneg maching gun... any one know how that weapon is performing?

Friend of mine who took the picture above said a few like it, and some dont. Cant change the barrels after running it for a long time is a main complain. Accuracy is better they say.

Seraphim
03-16-2007, 04:36 PM
Anyone help me find a 4-6inch black boot with a safety toe. Price range around $200

XIE
03-18-2007, 11:07 PM
Do people here think a Duty/Military boot should be 8" in height? Do you feel 6" is enough support for military specfic activity?

scrybe
03-19-2007, 02:41 AM
Anyone help me find a 4-6inch black boot with a safety toe. Price range around $200

Danners with Safety Toe (http://www.danner.com/category/work/protective+toe.do?page=3)

There's another one on page 2 and a few more on page 4.

Search around online and you can find cheaper prices than the that website.

TacoDelRio
03-19-2007, 03:53 AM
Do people here think a Duty/Military boot should be 8" in height? Do you feel 6" is enough support for military specfic activity?


I don't see why not. From my standpoint, if it keeps your ankle sorta stable (kinda sorta), and keeps the junk outside (snow, dirt, leaves, rocks, etc) from getting in over the top, then it's good.

Scottie
03-24-2007, 03:38 PM
I'm very new to the whole buying boots scene, and would appreciate a little bit of guidance. What i'm looking for are a pair of reasonably priced military boots for a dry/desert climate that will take a little bit of pounding. I noticed the other thread, but the boots there seemed to be a little too pricey for me. This will only be a short-term investment, so I don't feel obliged to spend 100s of dollars on some boots. I am looking at $50 (30 quid)max price range. Thanks.

weizen
03-24-2007, 05:01 PM
Well either you are going to get cheap boots which are cheap. Or you can try to buy some used ones.

Scottie
03-24-2007, 05:04 PM
Well either way I'd like to stick to my price limit.

schwarz
03-24-2007, 05:05 PM
Why are you going to be doing while wearing them..If your going to the SandBox dont skimp, but I would think you know that.

jagermeister
03-24-2007, 05:11 PM
thats a hard price to stick to man. i just orderd some new boots about 20 seconds ago and i spent 300 bucks. Good boots are a crucial piece of gear and i wouldnt settle for anything but the highest quality.

Kilo Golf
03-24-2007, 07:57 PM
50 bucks is too cheap, you want something reliable and nothing 50 bucks is worth it. Just like jager said buy something more expensive, plus it will last longer and not tear you feet up.

--GN

Souk
03-24-2007, 07:58 PM
http://store.matrixbb.com/catalog/Shoe_CD_707_lg.gif

Condor D.I.M. Sierra Boots.
Description :
Genuine suede leather upper with padded collar
Special compounded polyurethan midsole direct injected to the upper for maximum bounding and extra comfort.
High traction rubber sierra design outsole
Cushioned EAV removable contour insole for extra comfort and support
Speed lace system
Steel shank
12 pair per master carton
Unit weight: 5lbs

Size : 6-13
Color : Desert Tan
PRICE: $59.99



Basically the same thing the USMC uses, except without the expensive price and the EGA to the side.

vulpine
03-24-2007, 10:32 PM
http://store.matrixbb.com/catalog/Shoe_CD_707_lg.gif

Condor D.I.M. Sierra Boots.
Description :
Genuine suede leather upper with padded collar
Special compounded polyurethan midsole direct injected to the upper for maximum bounding and extra comfort.
High traction rubber sierra design outsole
Cushioned EAV removable contour insole for extra comfort and support
Speed lace system
Steel shank
12 pair per master carton
Unit weight: 5lbs

Size : 6-13
Color : Desert Tan
PRICE: $59.99



Basically the same thing the USMC uses, except without the expensive price and the EGA to the side.

I have these. They are very comfortable. Soft soles once broken in almost like tennis shoes.

Scottie
03-24-2007, 11:17 PM
I'm going to be using them probably about twice a week for hiking/trekking. I'd prefer to use combat boots than 'trainers' if you understand.

Dan2004
03-24-2007, 11:33 PM
http://www.uscav.com/prodinfo/images/22878.jpg (http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/)

This my prefered LPC. Just plain old Altamas. These are the absolute best boots that I have ever worn.
If you want a good pair of hot-weather desert/jungle boots, these are what you need. They're not too expensive either ($99 USD at US Cavalry), and they won't turn your feet into hamburger.

Here's the link http://www.uscav.com/Productinfo.aspx?productID=7093&TabID=1&CatID=373

Also, they've got some cheap Rothco knockoffs on the same site for like 35 bucks.

Fenris Wolf
03-25-2007, 10:52 AM
I am looking at $50 (30 quid)max price range. Thanks.

I'm going to be using them probably about twice a week for hiking/trekking.

Twice a week or twice a year?

I don't know what you mean with "hiking". How many miles? If you walk twice a week about 20 miles, you walk about 20,000 miles a year. And you don't want to spend more than 50 bucks for good boots?

This is like buying a $3000 precision rifle and using it with the cheapest ammo available...

I know a lot of people who bought very cheap boots and all of them bought good (expensive) boots later. It's a difference between using boots to walk from your car to the shooting range and walking long distances...


just my 0.02$


Fenris

Scottie
03-25-2007, 11:20 AM
You make a good point. I'll be using them hopefully round 6-8 times a month, for a short 3-5 mile 'walk' in desert ground (rocks, sand).

Souk
03-25-2007, 11:55 AM
could always join ROTC and get USMC Boots


i got mine for free ;D

Scottie
03-25-2007, 02:14 PM
could always join ROTC and get USMC Boots


i got mine for free ;D

Well this is all a part of an exercise program towards the Military.

Souk
03-25-2007, 02:55 PM
well if its a part of a program, why dont they issue you the boots?

sad that i have mine and wear them once a month .

Remington Rand
03-25-2007, 03:14 PM
http://www.uscav.com/prodinfo/images/22878.jpg (http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/)

This my prefered LPC. Just plain old Altamas. These are the absolute best boots that I have ever worn.
If you want a good pair of hot-weather desert/jungle boots, these are what you need. They're not too expensive either ($99 USD at US Cavalry), and they won't turn your feet into hamburger.

Here's the link http://www.uscav.com/Productinfo.aspx?productID=7093&TabID=1&CatID=373

Also, they've got some cheap Rothco knockoffs on the same site for like 35 bucks.
I agree on the altamas. I have had a good experience. Though I will say I talked to a couple of my friends that went to both A-stand and Iraq and didnt like their Altamas.

Beowulf
03-25-2007, 03:20 PM
In order to get a decent recommendation you need to provide all of the pertinent information, rather than just hinting at the fact that you might be training for some military stuff at some time somewhere.

I can't really make a recommendation because I don't know what you'll be doing. If you're doing anything more than a weekly nature hike with no ruck, no weight over trails or road in nice weather then 50 dollar boots will tear your feet up.

spend less money on haxxoring your game console and buy a decent pair of boots.

Beowulf
03-25-2007, 03:23 PM
I've had high end boots, and issue boots. The issue boots are a little cheap and will get torn up faster. The armed forces have been doing a better job of getting decent boots.

I still like the old jungles, and I miss my pair of Wellco tuffcushions that I had soaked in neets foot oil, they were comfy. Unfortunately, I rucked myself flat footed and now wear a wide boot instead of a regular.

HoboWithAK
03-25-2007, 06:17 PM
Sounds like you could use some jungle boots. Probably the most underrated, economical pieces of gear ever.

TacoDelRio
03-25-2007, 06:49 PM
As said, Altama, or Wellco, or another USGI contractor.

Don't skimp. Your feet will pay for what your wallet doesn't.

Silent 6
03-26-2007, 01:41 PM
Taco gave you the best advice. As an avid Hiker you get what you pay for.
There are a broad range of boots available. Military boots, for hiking, may not be your best bet. Look into a reputable hiking/walking store. There are some great trail running shoes (i.e. trainers) that may be more appropriate. there are some really good boots available from Vasque, Asolo and Lowa at reasonable prices. Ebay can often have good boots for your price range.

Your feet will be your primary means of transportation throughout life, don't abuse them!

Jsjoholm
03-26-2007, 02:03 PM
near double your budget but .. $90 USD for a pair of Merrell Sawtooths. Including shipping. Check Amazon or pricerunner or something. I've seen them for far less too.

Good boots comfy boots, i have mine on right now.

Scottie
03-26-2007, 03:04 PM
Thanks for the suggestions people, I'll take them all into account for my next purchase. As seen, I'll invest more into this, and yes I am of course inexperienced in this area, so apologies for the misunderstandings. Cheers.

TacoDelRio
03-26-2007, 04:01 PM
I second the advice on Merrell boots. I have a pair that I use for everything, and they're literally the most comfortable pair of anything I've ever tried on. I've put tons of miles on them and they're doing just great.

For trail runners, I have a pair of Salomon XA Pro 3D running shoes that are quite good. They were $100, but if you don't NEED boots (as in, you're in a warm environment, no water/snow/etc risks), they may be OK for you. I've put Lord only knows how many miles on them since I got them nearly a year ago, and I need to replace them soon. Considering how much running I do/did with them, they're above par.

I bought some cheapo Chinese jungle boots to train up before I joined the Army, and after one 10 mile walk in the mountains, I had a large thick blister on each heel, that ended up having about 2mm of meat removed from the soles of my heels (skin, not boot). I couldn't walk right for a month, and had to buy those Dr Scholl's heelcups. I literally wore a hole through the insole of the boot into the actual sole itself. Don't buy cheap. Do not buy cheap.

As my usual advice to customers, I say just wait and save up more money, and buy something good. You generally only buy quality once.

Herrmannek
03-26-2007, 04:27 PM
Not the desert ones and probably unavailable outside Poland, but I'll stick to the price limit :)

polish Desanty, standard army boots 120zł=40$ they are not great but I'm sure good enough for described type of use, especially price fits perfectly quality.
http://allegro.pl/item175851751_nowe_buty_wojskowe_skoczki_desanty_wawa.html
all leather, boot sewn to the sole... stamp of the ministry of defense inside.

Anyway if author doesn't mind I would like to change topic a little. Whenever I use my feet for longer walks(3 hours+) they kill me. Its like electricity going up when I put foot on the ground... Any ideas what it can be and how to get ride of it. I wanted to start hiking this year, but lost all confidence... being stuck 5hours from civilization with hamburger foot isn't great :) Anyway anyone have other good ways to make boots more comfortable?...

Christophe
03-26-2007, 05:24 PM
Whatever you want to get, stay away from 2nd hand boots.
Take care of your feet and get something decent.
If you are training to become part of a certain unit, get the issue boots. I doubt they´ll let you wear gucci gear during the tests.

Just my 2C.

TacoDelRio
03-26-2007, 05:32 PM
Hermmanek, talk ot a podiatrist. You might simply be wearing the wrong shoes. Everyone has different feet, so much different in some cases that you need special inserts. I have similar problems after long distance hikes or runs, and it's usually due to a lack of support of the forward part of my arch and the balls of my feet.

Herrmannek
03-26-2007, 05:55 PM
As far as I know we haven't got a lot of those(podiatrist) here... Thanks, next time I go to the ordinary doc I will ask him about that...

TacoDelRio
03-26-2007, 05:58 PM
Sorry to hear about that. I don't know much about feet, so I'm of limited use. I hope you find a good doctor. Take care of your feet and they'll take care of you.

Jsjoholm
03-27-2007, 06:10 AM
Would just like to join the choir on the topic of 'buy quality, buy once". It is JTFS really. That is why I am on my third 5.11 Watch, and getting a store refund because of it.

Scottie
03-27-2007, 08:29 AM
Yea looks like I'll be spending a bit more on some boots. I'll head down to the shop this weekend and check some out. Like TacoDelRio said, I'll be using these for training towards the military. Thanks.

Sheikh Al Stranghi
03-27-2007, 01:59 PM
I bought some cheapo Chinese jungle boots to train up before I joined the Army, and after one 10 mile walk in the mountains, I had a large thick blister on each heel, that ended up having about 2mm of meat removed from the soles of my heels (skin, not boot). I couldn't walk right for a month, and had to buy those Dr Scholl's heelcups. I literally wore a hole through the insole of the boot into the actual sole itself. Don't buy cheap. Do not buy cheap.



I bought these as well, and after three miles of running the soles fell off.... :bash:

My "good" pair (Meindl, army pro) were 300 USD, and I've been wearing them for FIVE years now. DAILY. Re-soled once, heel repaired once.
Done swimming, running, climbing, everything in them.
Not bad huh?

Herrmannek
03-27-2007, 02:53 PM
don't know what ***** you are sold .. I never bought boots more expensive than 80$(not less than 30$) and never ever lost sole, of course I don't buy boots with glued only sole... blisters are rather irrelevant to the boot itself, its fault of rather poor fit at purchase or switching from soft snickers into something more serious...

weizen
03-27-2007, 03:31 PM
Whenever I use my feet for longer walks(3 hours+) they kill me. Its like electricity going up when I put foot on the ground... Any ideas what it can be and how to get ride of it. I wanted to start hiking this year, but lost all confidence... being stuck 5hours from civilization with hamburger foot isn't great :) Anyway anyone have other good ways to make boots more comfortable?...


don't know what ***** you are sold .. I never bought boots more expensive than 80$(not less than 30$) and never ever lost sole, of course I don't buy boots with glued only sole... blisters are rather irrelevant to the boot itself, its fault of rather poor fit at purchase or switching from soft snickers into something more serious...

When you buy high quality shoes from a reputable manufacturer you usally get what you pay for. Meindl produces very good shoes, which are actually usefull e.g povide good support in rough terrain, cushioning and will last many years. Not like he bought a pair of gucci high heels.

EsoognomEhT
03-27-2007, 05:34 PM
Go to RQMS.
Draw boots.
"Lose" boots.
Pay for new pair (at much cheaper prices than the shops)

p-)

Herrmannek
03-27-2007, 05:56 PM
When you buy high quality shoes from a reputable manufacturer you usally get what you pay for. Meindl produces very good shoes, which are actually usefull e.g povide good support in rough terrain, cushioning and will last many years. Not like he bought a pair of gucci high heels.
Problem with expensive boot is they are expensive :) Question is if cheap ones can be okey. I say they can and often are... If it wouldn't be that way Russians would never win any war :)

Catch22
03-27-2007, 05:56 PM
I bought these as well, and after three miles of running the soles fell off.... :bash:

My "good" pair (Meindl, army pro) were 300 USD, and I've been wearing them for FIVE years now. DAILY. Re-soled once, heel repaired once.
Done swimming, running, climbing, everything in them.
Not bad huh?

I concur, I have 3 pairs of diffrent Meindls and one Lowas and I'm absolutely happy with them, looking forward to get me another pair for summer hiking. You get what you pay for. And besides it's a question of your own comfort and health ffs! You want to spare on that?

And Herrmanek, I know you're a cheapo but try and get yourself a pair of well cushioned Salomons (low or mid height) and good cushioned insoles for them. You're rather heavy, right? All that burning effect you describe sounds like effect of wearing poorly cushioned boot by a "heavy stomper". And don't you ever dare to reccomend standard polish issue boot to anyone! They are utter crap - joke says they were originally ordered by sicilian mafia 'cause they are better and cheaper than concrete for drowning folks.

TacoDelRio
03-27-2007, 06:01 PM
Scottie, where do you live, and what size do you wear? I've got some older issue leather boots I don't use (they don't fit). Size 12 regular width.

weizen
03-27-2007, 06:16 PM
Herrmannek: cut the booze and use the money to buy some decent hiking shoes. ;) Maybe then you will have less problems while hiking.

I think all the people with decent shoes here agree that you get what you pay for.

Herrmannek
03-27-2007, 06:32 PM
And Herrmanek, I know you're a cheapo but try and get yourself a pair of well cushioned Salomons (low or mid height) and good cushioned insoles for them. You're rather heavy, right? All that burning effect you describe sounds like effect of wearing poorly cushioned boot by a "heavy stomper". And don't you ever dare to reccomend standard polish issue boot to anyone! They are utter crap - joke says they were originally ordered by sicilian mafia 'cause they are better and cheaper than concrete for drowning folks.
I haven't noticed their weight, actually I was worried they are to light :). It was winter trip in deep wet snow, mud and walking along stream trials, although leather was growing wet outside foot inside was dry, not bad for 120zł :). before that wanted to buy BW boots, but started to look for them when season ended and no one had pair in my size... ~250zł was as much as I could pay... Now money are gone and I will have to use what I've got. Of course I don't walk that much but I wear my DESANTY all day long 10 hours a day and haven't got even one blister, they are little warm, but its nothing excessive... After all conscripts use those for whole 9 months and live so they can't be that bad. Better cushioned boots sound nice, will try it when buying some cheap hikes for the summer :). I don't think I will be able to buy salomons anytime soon :) Until then I will have to change my walking habits :)



@~above post
I don't drink booze nor any other alcoholic beverage...

weizen
03-27-2007, 07:00 PM
@~above post
I don't drink booze nor any other alcoholic beverage...

Ok sorry, I meant that you should just save some money.

Herrmannek
03-27-2007, 08:11 PM
Ok sorry, I meant that you should just save some money.

No need to sorry :)

Catch22
03-28-2007, 03:17 AM
I haven't noticed their weight, actually I was worried they are to light :). It was winter trip in deep wet snow, mud and walking along stream trials, although leather was growing wet outside foot inside was dry, not bad for 120zł :). before that wanted to buy BW boots, but started to look for them when season ended and no one had pair in my size... ~250zł was as much as I could pay... Now money are gone and I will have to use what I've got. Of course I don't walk that much but I wear my DESANTY all day long 10 hours a day and haven't got even one blister, they are little warm, but its nothing excessive... After all conscripts use those for whole 9 months and live so they can't be that bad. Better cushioned boots sound nice, will try it when buying some cheap hikes for the summer :). I don't think I will be able to buy salomons anytime soon :) Until then I will have to change my walking habits :)

It's a free country - you may try to f_ck up your feet as much as you want, but you've been warned. ;-)

hammerlock
03-30-2007, 11:33 PM
If you were in Canada i would say buy yourself a good pair of MKIII combat boots. I wore them all though basic and for years afterwards, yes there are better but they work and once you break them in and have a good pair of insoles there fine.

50.00 buck is a bit cheap and you should spend a bit more but don;t buy into the whole hi-tech boot thing. Standard combat boots work, they wore them all though WW2 though the 50's to 80"s when the hi-tech boots started to take over.

Kilo Golf
04-03-2007, 08:06 PM
Just got a pair of Lowa Renegade GTX's and should be issued a pair of Asolo Fsn 95 GTX's later this week too. Next week I am going to be TDY for about 2 weeks hiking approx. 60 miles of the Appalaichan Trail. I will be using these boots and will send my reviews on them.


--KG

XxDrAg0nxX
04-04-2007, 02:46 AM
As a matterfact, I did yesterday. Its extremely light and comfortable. I opted for the Desert Ops instead because they seemed a bit more breathable and just make more sense since I'll be using them in Iraq. I can't comment on the durability. I'll get back to you in a year.

I found the boot a little hard all over, did it soften out after a while?
Comfort level?

Gamby
04-04-2007, 12:52 PM
Hi,

After plenty of research on the net and on this site, I decided to buy a pair of new Belleville 700ST's. I love 'em!

The only thing is that I'm getting blisters at the back of my ankles. If you feel inside the boot, there is a seam at the back where the goretex lining joins together. The stitching feels rough, almost like a course metal file!

What should I do? I'm tempted to cut that part out, or cover it with something. Any active duty guys have any tips or tricks to fix this?

Thanks in advance,
Gamby

Pook2
04-04-2007, 12:53 PM
Got thick socks? And nylons to go under those?

Acid Bath
04-04-2007, 12:57 PM
I bought the same boots and had almost the exact same problem you describe, but only on my right foot. The left boot was the best thing I ever wore. I sent an e-mail to the company and explained the problem and they said it was a defect and to pay to have it sent back and get a new pair. I sent them back and to compensate me for paying to have defective boots sent back they sent the new pair back express. The new boots are the best things I have ever put on my feet, I suggest you send an e-mail to the company.

Gamby
04-04-2007, 01:14 PM
ICB Use and Care instructions state:

"1. Wear with: 1 pair of socks, cushion sole, acrylic, polyester olefin, nylon, lyrca blend. 1 pair of insole inserts if desired."

So I'm wearing Wigwam Ultimax F6077 40% Olefin 36% Acrylic 20% Nylon, 4% Lycra.

Please tell me more about nylon unders? If I was in the military I would just wear what everyone else wears with them but I'm kinda shooting in the dark here.

lt tahoe
04-04-2007, 02:15 PM
One way to avoid blisters on road marches is to put a pair of short nylons on under your boot socks. I used to grab a few from the womens' shoe department whenever my girlfriend tried on shoes. Free and effective! Just make sure you take them off when you get back and don't walk around the squad bay with them on :)

I actually got issued some really thin cotton socks at one point that worked pretty well, too. Sure they were cotton, but they were so thin it didn't seem to matter much. I have never seen them since.

Shrap
04-04-2007, 11:31 PM
The "nylon unders" are actually called "liners" socks. They're used in outdoor for a long long time to prevent blisters. They're usually made of nylon, polyester, polypropylene or even wool. You will find them at your local outdoor shop for sure. About 5-6 $ Canadian / pair.

I would advice against cotton liners since cotton traps moisture in, making you lose warmth and making you more ****e to blisters.

Royal
04-05-2007, 12:31 PM
or even wool.

or even silk...

Send your boots back.

They shouldn't feel like that.

GNR
04-05-2007, 12:35 PM
or even silk...

Send your boots back.

They shouldn't feel like that.

I 2nd that, it sounds like they are sewn wrong.

Bohemoth
04-06-2007, 12:40 AM
Nobody mentioned the good old battle-proven GI Altama boots with Panama Soles.
Here the desert version:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v643/kwp/e84160b7.jpg

krasnayaarmiya
04-06-2007, 03:04 AM
BW Bergschuh one of the contractors for German Army current issue boot pretty much the same as Lowa High Mountain (Bundeswehr) boots. VERY comfortable, very light, probably not great for extreme heat, but great waterproofing, amazing soling. They get excellent traction in the slickest of mud. Had mine one year, and they are a real assett. Look on Ebay. They did cost me over $250 bucks, though.

XxDrAg0nxX
04-06-2007, 03:51 AM
My Bates M9, current everyday wear.

Gamby
04-06-2007, 08:40 PM
Email to Belleville has been sent. Thanks again guys!

trey40
04-07-2007, 06:18 PM
my gen 1 oakley boots are starting to show their age, but i have been very pleased with them and plan on getting their current production boots. they have a larger footprint and have been good to my ankles by spreading out the shock from jumping and decending down ropes, etc. i dont think they have the support or tread for extended mountaineering ops. i would go for something from north face for that

Kilo Golf
04-07-2007, 11:30 PM
I love the Oakleys but I have already burned up a pair from fastroping and they don't grip too well in the back of a 53...


--KG

jagermeister
04-08-2007, 12:48 AM
oakleys suck....i had some for about 3 months before they wore out. I got some new danner acadia GTXs or something like that. Best boot ive ever worn.

Jsjoholm
04-10-2007, 08:06 AM
I picked up a pair of Merrell Sawtooths some weeks ago and used them for two weeks in Tikrit - the sole on the left boot started to seperate from the shoe after one week though. I have emailed Merrell about this but they haven't gotten back to me as of yet.


It all worked out well with the reseller shipping me a new pair to replace the old broken ones. And after wearing them for a month or so in Israel - what happens ? The sole starts to seperate on the right boot just like it did on the old pair.. Superglued it for now, seeing as I don't have the time to sit around waiting for merrell. But I am so buying something else when I get back to the States. Meindl Desert Fox looks alright. Even my old Magnum Amazon Desert's are holding up better than the Merrells I've had so far, doesn't that just take the cake...

trey40
04-10-2007, 11:14 AM
chuck taylors with some tan spray paint is all you need buddy

NLD
04-10-2007, 03:11 PM
Currently in use

Meindl Perfect; Nice boot for winter/mountain ops. Very comfortable but
also heavy.

http://www.kampeermarkt.com/php_content/shop/afbeeldingen/produkten/Perfekt.jpg

Scarpa Concordia; Good alround boot and very comfortable. Some Dutch soldiers choice.

http://www.sherpa.ru/i/product/38/m/4174.jpg

Salomon Expert Mid; Lightweight ops, I use it more for biking or small summer walks

http://ski-sport.dnh.cz/upload/$$37959$km$salomon_expertmid_w500%5B1%5D.jpg

I also got some dutch army lightweight combat boots. These army 'abuse boots'. More survivalboots then hikingboots to me.

Planning to use
I'm planning to buy a pair of Danner Acadia's. But they are very pricy compare to a Meindl or a Lowa Army boot. The Hanwag Specialforce is also a nice option. With all the options it's hard to make up your mind.

Andrew116
04-13-2007, 02:14 PM
Theres a good chance that Im going to find my self riding horses and hikeing throught the woods all summer long.

Whats a good brand of boot that is fairly easy on the wallet.

I'd like them to be light weight (almost like desert boots if not) Probably able to drain water (like jungle boots) kinda low cut though its less of a issue.

Is there like a general boot or am I asking the impossible?

Thanks

lightcav
04-13-2007, 04:40 PM
you'll be hard pressed to find a riding boot that you can hike in. I would recommend Ariat bran boots with a low heel or some other lacer style boot. Packers are nice but the heels are pretty high for hiking. Not cheap and always made in leather, never suede.

Sounds fun. What are you doing that intails horseback riding?

Andrew116
04-13-2007, 04:59 PM
lightcav[/LEFT];2433826]you'll be hard pressed to find a riding boot that you can hike in. I would recommend
Ariat bran boots with a low heel or some other
lacer style boot. Packers are nice but the heels are pretty high for hiking. Not cheap and always made in leather, never suede.

Sounds fun. What are you doing that
intails horseback riding?

I might be
volunteering to ride with
mentally
handicapped kids, (
Therapeutic Riding)
Plus
Im always in the woods and
hiking up and down hills, cliffs, through rivers and looking for something better then out tennis shoes p-)

lightcav
04-13-2007, 05:23 PM
Noble cause.

I would recommend getting two pairs of boots. One for hiking and getting a cheap pair of low heeled riding boots.

Ariats are usually pretty expensive so I would rule them out. Look for Justin brand boots they make lacers and ropers essentially the same only one is laced up and the other is pull-on. They are more reasonable than other riding boots and you can usually find them used on ebay for cheaper than retail.

I have two pairs of Justin lacers and one pair of Ariats. The Ariats are way better but you can usually find Justin's on ebay for cheaper. I got a pair of Justin's for around $20.

I wouldn't recommend riding in hiking boots or combat style boots. When I was little I used tennis shoes but it was risky and I would strongly recommend against using anything but riding boots with a heel. Your foot will get stuck in the stirrup if you fall off and when you dismount. The horses you'll be riding will probably not run or bolt but you never know, you could get dragged.

Creeper
04-13-2007, 07:09 PM
I used to ride Western horse and IMHO suggest that since you are hiking as well, go with a lite hiking boot commonly found on http://rei.com/.

I would not recommend 'Packers' but take a look at these:
http://images.rei.com/media/l/1168072.jpg (http://javascript<b></b>:myGoto(largeFeaturedImgLink);)
http://www.rei.com/product/733435?vcat=REI_SSHP_FOOTWEAR_TOC
or
http://media.rei.com/media/981791.jpg (http://javascript<b></b>:myGoto(largeFeaturedImgLink);)
http://www.rei.com/product/748510?vcat=REI_SSHP_FOOTWEAR_TOC

ZaakM433
04-13-2007, 11:42 PM
I may vouch for the latter mid sized shoe mentioned in the above host. They are of mesh construction however so don't expect them to stand up to too much heavy abuse, but I have found they held up better than I expected to ordinary wear. With any shoe/boot (depends on your definition) meant for hiking once the tread is worn down it loses a significant amount of grip. While I wished to use them for hiking I found I wore them more in the tennis shoe replacement capacity since they were so comfortable, much more comfortable when standing or walking for long periods because of better ankle support.

They are Merrell Mesa Ventilator Mids. I purchased mine from Cabela's B&B for $80 2 years ago. After 2 years the toe box has split away from the base of each shoe on the inward facing side of each shoe and the tread is quite worn down. I need to replace them, time to get used to wearing something else.

EDIT: The above pictured shoe is the Moab, which is almost identical to the Mesa. Perhaps the Moab has a few improvements over the Mesa and would be even better.

XxDrAg0nxX
04-14-2007, 12:57 AM
http://www.shoestoboot.com/images/cove/matterhorn/1997_87.jpg
anyone tried this before?

Matterhorn 10" Waterproof All Leather Field Boots with ComforTemp® -

This comfortemp thinggy, seems like its supposed to keep your foot warm when its cold, and keep your foot cool when its hot.... it would be a wonderful technology if it really works :)

Grumpy Bastard
04-15-2007, 12:27 AM
Nobody mentioned the good old battle-proven GI Altama boots with Panama Soles.
Here the desert version:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v643/kwp/e84160b7.jpg

What apart from on the first page?

NLD
04-15-2007, 05:50 PM
anyone tried this before?

Matterhorn 10" Waterproof All Leather Field Boots with ComforTemp® -

This comfortemp thinggy, seems like its supposed to keep your foot warm when its cold, and keep your foot cool when its hot.... it would be a wonderful technology if it really works :)

Problem I find with goretex boots, is that they are too warm during the
summertimes. In the winter they are very good.

I don't have matterhorns, but some dudes I know have. Much the same as Danner.
A good boot. But expensive.

XxDrAg0nxX
04-16-2007, 04:22 AM
Problem I find with goretex boots, is that they are too warm during the
summertimes. In the winter they are very good.

I don't have matterhorns, but some dudes I know have. Much the same as Danner.
A good boot. But expensive.

It seems to be combined with comfortemp.
A quote from its website:

"Comfortemp® is the brand name for intelligent nonwovens (http://www.comfortemp.com/htm_english/vliesstoffe.htm), into which mPCM (http://www.comfortemp.com/htm_english/mpcm.htm) materials have been integrated. They interactively react to changing body or outside temperatures.
Depending on the individual situation or activity level they absorb excess body heat and store it until it is needed again. This keeps you in the comfort zone (http://www.comfortemp.com/htm_english/komfortzone.htm) longer."
http://www.comfortemp.com/htm_english/index2.htm
Its supposed to keep the feet cool...

Vostok
04-17-2007, 07:47 PM
got a question for those of you with the Bates M-9.

How well does the side zip hold up to constant use? I've seen some of the local infantry-types using them, but never got a chance to ask them.

Also anyone have any experience with the Lowa Seeker PT?

XxDrAg0nxX
04-18-2007, 04:19 AM
My M9 is the non-zipp version.

However supercomfortable it is, the upper part of it seems to be made of PVC, thus it has peeled off.

Overall its a good boot.

RallyPointCebu
04-18-2007, 04:45 AM
This is rather an old thread.. but anyways... i bought this boot in Singapore.. its a merril... its nice... i use it all the time when i go outdoors and stuff.. good grip in muddy/wet terrain... nice ankle support... i use/carry over backpack for 3-4 days hike; dpends on the climb/hike.

the setting is hot tropical climate, dry and dusty in the urban area and, wet and muddy in the rural area. so my boot is pretty much batterd. ill post my pics later on...

this is the model of the boots... i bought this for SGD 114.00 thats 1.5SGD for a 1 USD.

http://www.merrellboot.com/Shop/Detail.aspx?NavID=FT-O-HIK&PID=12004
(http://www.merrellboot.com/Shop/Detail.aspx?NavID=FT-O-HIK&PID=12004)

TacoDelRio
04-18-2007, 05:54 AM
Just goes to the main page, Cebu.

James
04-18-2007, 11:54 AM
It all worked out well with the reseller shipping me a new pair to replace the old broken ones. And after wearing them for a month or so in Israel - what happens ? The sole starts to seperate on the right boot just like it did on the old pair.. Superglued it for now, seeing as I don't have the time to sit around waiting for merrell. But I am so buying something else when I get back to the States. Meindl Desert Fox looks alright. Even my old Magnum Amazon Desert's are holding up better than the Merrells I've had so far, doesn't that just take the cake...

That's too bad. I've had a pair of Sawtooths for more than two years, and they're great.


chuck taylors with some tan spray paint is all you need buddy

I've seen that before... You can get them re-soled and use some good insoles too.

Sand Man
04-18-2007, 12:22 PM
Oakleys are not doing good in this thread.


How about the newer Elite Special Forces S.I. Assault Boots? Anyone tried it?

http://oakley.com/pd/view_large/4314

Jsjoholm
04-18-2007, 01:52 PM
That's too bad. I've had a pair of Sawtooths for more than two years, and they're great.

James, yea it is too bad but they are very comfortable shoes and I am not giving up yet. Third time is the charm, or 'do it again, and do it right' to Merrell. Their costumer support has been very helpful and I feel very at ease with talking to them about these problems, that I have gotten two pairs of lemons doesn't make the whole family deceased. <end of cliché speak>

They have even offered me a new pair, or a full refund including all my shipping costs. So what do I got to lose on getting a new pair and see if they won't hold up better.

Jsjoholm
04-18-2007, 02:02 PM
Oakleys are not doing good in this thread.


How about the newer Elite Special Forces S.I. Assault Boots? Anyone tried it?

http://oakley.com/pd/view_large/4314

Looks nice, but I would just like to express an opinion, imho anything that calls itself elite, special forces and/or d3333lta is to be weary of. And Oakley hasn't yet made much of a reputation in the boot industry as reliable. How much are they anyway?

RallyPointCebu
04-18-2007, 03:35 PM
Just goes to the main page, Cebu.
OK... my bad... heres the link.
http://www.merrellboot.com/Shop/Detail.aspx?NavID=FT-O-HIK&PID=12004

http://www.merrellboot.com/Shop/Detail.aspx?NavID=FT-O-HIK&PID=12004

TacoDelRio
04-18-2007, 04:02 PM
Good boot, I think.

I've got Merrells with alot of use on them, and I haven't had any problems yet, thankfully. They seem to be good boots (Phaser Peak).

jagermeister
04-18-2007, 04:38 PM
Looks nice, but I would just like to express an opinion, imho anything that calls itself elite, special forces and/or d3333lta is to be weary of. And Oakley hasn't yet made much of a reputation in the boot industry as reliable. How much are they anyway?

i wore my oakleys for about 3 months before they were in the trash.....

Jsjoholm
04-18-2007, 06:28 PM
i wore my oakleys for about 3 months before they were in the trash.....

Yea that sounds like what my coworkers have experienced with them, one of them picked up a pair of the 8" assault boots and they fell apart after 5 months on the job. And that guy didn't really leave the camp all that often to actually get around to using his boots. I'll stick to my Danners, and *cough*merrells*cough*.

I went to Oakley's webpage just now, to figure out which boots he had bought - and I saw that they don't call them "military boots" or the such but instead they refer to them as "military-inspired boots".. inspired...
They do look good though, them Oakleys. Their designs are sporty and modern.

bghon
04-18-2007, 06:32 PM
I wears SWAT Original everyday for work...no problem so far...and it's manufactured in USA.

jango
04-20-2007, 05:30 AM
I have notice that there are lot of soldier who are not wearing the standard issue combat boot that they are supplied with and are buying and wearing civilian camp and hiking boots and footwear.

I was wondering what is your favorite brand of hiking boot and would you prefer it over the boot that you would be supplied with by your branch of your countries defence forces.

Zero The Hero
04-20-2007, 07:38 AM
Where have I seen this question before?

ZoneOne
04-20-2007, 08:11 AM
http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/search.php?searchid=787644

XxDrAg0nxX
04-20-2007, 10:52 AM
IF I am not wrong, there is a so called military issue Oakleys and a commercial version.

I was told you could tell by the label on the side of the boot, but I forgot what that label was :D

Refer to this site: https://www.usstandardissue.com/boots.aspx
However I see NO NSN numbers. So... pls dont jump to conclusions..

Roldwin
04-20-2007, 05:37 PM
What can you tell me about a pair of Magnum Elite ?? I'm thinking about buying them

scrybe
04-20-2007, 08:12 PM
Evita las Magnums!

Never heard good things about their longevity. Comfortable for a while, but fall apart within a few months.

dobrodan
04-20-2007, 08:59 PM
Two and a half year ago I bought a pair of goretex ECCO-boots, just to have something decent to use in the winter... I have used them for almost anything!
These boots has been through oil, saltwater, snow, slush, sharp rocks, you name it... And not least, lots and lots of walking. And it hardly shows... They are almost as good as they were when they were new. The sole is hardly showing any wear, and they are still completely dry!

I couldnt find the exact model in ECCO´s website, but this is the closest I could find:

http://www.ecco.com/performance/ProductDetails.aspx?c=9e403d4b-b507-4f46-8b11-3fd927aeb10b&pc=21561ebe-dc67-4927-a017-6c9a0696edf4&s=fcd4a9f4-ecfb-4d9f-9e1d-66b3d117b9eb&p=5f39506d-9ec3-499d-abdf-d1ae86b0beee

Kilo Golf
04-20-2007, 09:23 PM
Just finished my 8 day Appalacian Trail hike and my Lowa boots rock! I didn't need to break them in at all. I did 80 miles and my feet feel great. I definately reccomend them to anyone. I did not get my ASOLO's in time, so I didn't get to try them out. I noticed most of the people that are hiking the entire trail said that the ASOLO TPS 520 GTX's are the best boots you can buy. Some buddys of mine have them and will never use any other boots again. I plan on getting some in the future. These boots are expensive but worth more than their weight in gold!

--KG

Roldwin
04-21-2007, 12:13 AM
Evita las Magnums!

Never heard good things about their longevity. Comfortable for a while, but fall apart within a few months.


Thanks for the advice amigo. What do you recomend me? right now I don't remember what other boots are permitted in our army

Roldwin
04-21-2007, 12:19 AM
mmmm those BESTARD looks nice to me

http://img237.imageshack.us/img237/9440/5140450qk3.jpg