Boots Boots Boots... 62 boot threads in one

[alvarhanso]

The boots on the stool are Alt-Berg Desert Microlite... the ones that he's wearing are Lowa Desert Elite.
You can find both models here: http://www.dragonsupplies.co.uk/ViewProducts.aspx?Range=19

Cheers..

[Fintin]

Eff the boots. That set up is better than a college kid with a table and chairs built from pizza boxes and beer cans.

[Gunnergunn]

you got to love the Hesco furmiture.

[the_hog]

BD boots to go with BD pants EVERYONE should know this by now.

[Britboy]

Hey all,

Anyone got any experience with Matterhorn or Danner boots?

I'd heard Matterhorn Orions are meant to be good, but looking at their range online
http://www.corcoranandmatterhorn.com/Category_viewall.asp?Gender=&CategoryID=33
which are they?
Also is there a version known as the 'Marine' which is the same but with nylon sides (goretex lined so it'd still be waterproof but lighter)?

Anyone got any experience with these? I'm thinking buy a really good pair of boots that'll last and be good in ****ty weather. Is it worth getting the nylon sided pair to save weight or am I gonna regret it when the nylons all torn up but the rest of the upper/sole is still okay? I mean these are pricey boots :-( mucho beer tokens, they've gotta last...

Also thinking along the same lines, anyone used Danner boots? As they are supposed to be similarly good... Can't view danner.com on my pc for some reason though. So if can anyone let me know if these are good kit or not to bother dropping the cash, I'd be v interested to hear.

Cheers
BB

[gaijinsamurai]

Danners are the best!

[ADK031]

What will you be using the boots for? Danners are worth the money and they have a huge range of styles, the most of any company that I know at any rate. I used the Ft. Lewis in my infantry days and now wear the Acadia (uninsulated) for my civvie job. Absolutely excellent boots that have never let me down. Wish I had an odometer attached to them to see how many klicks I walked/humped/ran/patrolled with them!

[clean]

"F" everyone for ever talking about boots and getting me involved.

[scrybe]

I'm a big fan of Danners. Owned a few pairs.

So is the Marine Corp. Linakage (http://www.marinecorpstimes.com/news/2008/09/marine_newboots_090708w/)

[LaoSexMachine]

I'm a big fan of Danners. Owned a few pairs.

So is the Marine Corp. Linakage (http://www.marinecorpstimes.com/news/2008/09/marine_newboots_090708w/)

I wore Danner Acadias during my time. Good boots. Worked well in S.Korea and Pendleton not so much in Oki.

[Royal]

Hey all,

Anyone got any experience with Matterhorn or Danner boots?

I'd heard Matterhorn Orions are meant to be good, but looking at their range online
http://www.corcoranandmatterhorn.com/Category_viewall.asp?Gender=&CategoryID=33
which are they?
Also is there a version known as the 'Marine' which is the same but with nylon sides (goretex lined so it'd still be waterproof but lighter)?

Anyone got any experience with these? I'm thinking buy a really good pair of boots that'll last and be good in ****ty weather. Is it worth getting the nylon sided pair to save weight or am I gonna regret it when the nylons all torn up but the rest of the upper/sole is still okay? I mean these are pricey boots :-( mucho beer tokens, they've gotta last...

Also thinking along the same lines, anyone used Danner boots? As they are supposed to be similarly good... Can't view danner.com on my pc for some reason though. So if can anyone let me know if these are good kit or not to bother dropping the cash, I'd be v interested to hear.

Cheers
BB

We were issued Matterhorns in Bosnia in the winter of 95. They were crap. I've not worn them since.

Danner Accadia's are the biz - wore them off an on for probably 15 years. Both the black and the desert version. They last years (if you look after them). The nylon sides scuff up with barbed/razor wire and the like, but they never leaked - just looked a bit scruffy.

Merrels are great - but in my experience (boots and sandals) don't last. Expect to get through two pairs in a tour.

[Britboy]

ADK, they're going to be used for infantry work, most likely over rough terrain in the UK (Sennybridge here I come) which is pretty damn wet and cold most of the time, not to mention winter... So am after a good tough pair of winter boots really.

Cheers Royal, thanks for the heads up. The shop I was going to get them from sell Matterhorns at ~£180 - which is a LOT, esp for me :p So what was the drama with them, didn't last?

That was kind've why I thought they'd be good as a boot for cold wet conditions as well - I know the MoD issued them before, instead of Pro Boots. Also thought of Pro Boots but a coursemates' pair recently disintegrated on a tab - not a good impression then!

Everyone on this site has good things to say about Danner boots but I can't seem to find anyone in the UK or near me who sells them, and its always a good idea to try boots on for size first. Anyone know any good UK Danner sellers?

[Cedan]

I'm sorry. I'll quit ****ing around. Here is a link to Danner Acadias (http://img99.imageshack.us/img99/4415/dsc01110ox1.jpg)

hank

What is this obsession you have with my picture hank? p-)

[Roy Batty]

Well this is dissapointing. I thought the thread name was "****s, ****s, ****s".

:(

[hank]

What is this obsession you have with my picture hank? p-)

Is that you? I thought those were the danners?

hank

[ADK031]

ADK, they're going to be used for infantry work, most likely over rough terrain in the UK (Sennybridge here I come) which is pretty damn wet and cold most of the time, not to mention winter... So am after a good tough pair of winter boots really.

Cheers Royal, thanks for the heads up. The shop I was going to get them from sell Matterhorns at ~£180 - which is a LOT, esp for me :p So what was the drama with them, didn't last?

That was kind've why I thought they'd be good as a boot for cold wet conditions as well - I know the MoD issued them before, instead of Pro Boots. Also thought of Pro Boots but a coursemates' pair recently disintegrated on a tab - not a good impression then!

Everyone on this site has good things to say about Danner boots but I can't seem to find anyone in the UK or near me who sells them, and its always a good idea to try boots on for size first. Anyone know any good UK Danner sellers?

Here you go; http://www.silvermans.co.uk/Products/tabid/54/Department/Military/Category/FOOTWEAR/id/1/Text/16/Default.aspx
ANd another good point on Danners is that you can resole them, so as Royal said if you take care of the rest of the boot they will last a long time which is good because they cost alot.

[Royal]

Cheers Royal, thanks for the heads up. The shop I was going to get them from sell Matterhorns at ~£180 - which is a LOT, esp for me :p So what was the drama with them, didn't last?

That was kind've why I thought they'd be good as a boot for cold wet conditions as well - I know the MoD issued them before, instead of Pro Boots. Also thought of Pro Boots but a coursemates' pair recently disintegrated on a tab - not a good impression then!

The Matterhorns stitching was poor and they had cold spots, granted it was nearly minus 40 C on the mountains, but my Danners didn't.

As to Danner fit - I tried on a mate's pair and they fitted - that's my size :D

I've never had an issue with pro-Boots (never tried the desert ones though). Pusser gave them to me, when they (eventually) fell apart he gave me a new pair.

[Britboy]

Pusser gave them to me, when they (eventually) fell apart he gave me a new pair.

Isn't this the truth - the best pair of boots you can have are the pair you get for free!

:)

[topguner]

I think it should be the terra boots manufactured by Redback

[topguner]

LOL,really cool. Why were they hiding under rocks?

[digrar]

Haha, funny joke.

[T3ngu]

Hey dig, i see you missed one boot thread, there was another one floating around today.

Mr Mod of the Week.

K thx

[digrar]

I put all the ID these boots threads together separately.

[conscript]

hi felas! do anybody have some experience with Bates M4 Recon boots!?
couldnt find some good review. need them for military training in urban areas and in LRS tasks asswell.

[Carib]

What about these on this Canadian???

http://render-2.snapfish.com/render2/is=Yup6aQQ%7C%3Dup6RKKt%3Axxr%3D0-qpDPfRt7Pf7mrPfrj7t%3DzrRfDUX%3AeQaQxg%3Dr%3F87KR6xqpxQQJJxPeoxGJQxv8uOc5xQQQlanQQl0JGeqpfVtB%3F*KUp7BHSHqqy7XH6gX0QPaJ%7CRup6G00%7C/of=50,590,393

[uglybaby]

So Im in the market for a new pair of hikers. I'm down to these choices. Let me preface the below choices by saying I've done a fair amount of reading (here and other) and realize they are all good quality. I'm hoping that some of our Euro members may have more experience and be able to give some constructive criticism of the Euro brands. So here goes.
Asolo Fugitive
http://www.ems.com/catalog/product_detail_square.jsp?PRODUCT%3C%3Eprd_id=845524442587634&FOLDER%3C%3Efolder_id=2534374302889906
Meindl Light Hiker
http://www.cabelas.com/cabelas/en/templates/links/link.jsp;jsessionid=0WPYKQD52HJ5NLAQBBKSCNVMCAEFMIWE?type=product&cmCat=Related_IPL_811980&id=0040745812415a&_requestid=91651
Meindl Trekker..can't find a site in the US to purchase...
Lowa Jannu
http://zeta.zappos.com/product/7292878/color/155
LLBean Cresta Hikers
http://www.llbean.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/CategoryDisplay?page=gore-tex-cresta-hikers&categoryId=14774&storeId=1&catalogId=1&langId=-1&parentCategory=502773&cat4=502767&shop_method=pp&feat=502773-tn&np=Y
I basically am leaning towards a full leather upper, but would go for other if it is going to last. I need something that is uninsulated so it can function in cold with good socks and warm months as well without sweating out my feet. Any input would be helpful. Recommendations for other boots are also welcome. I don't really need any more boots to obbsess over, but if you feel they are worthy tell me why.

[conscript]

hi! i was looking for those kind a boot as you! i didnt want gore-tex so i was oit for asolo FSN95 or asolo discovery, but as fsn had gore tex and havent vibram sole i chose discovery and im absolutely loved in them, asolo fugitive is good choice to as i talk with some backpackers who own them, only problem with (if you can call it a problem) is for both of boots from asolo is that it gets some week or two to break them in! but overall great boots.:)

[uglybaby]

So I have settled on either the Lowa Trekker or the LL Bean Cresta Hiker. I can't find anyone in a reasonable driving distance that carries the Lowa Trekker. I would like to check the sizing so I am wondering if the other Lowa hiking and mountaineering boots would be good enough to give me an idea on sizing. Anyone know? Also anybody know of a place to get them online for less than 200 US? Thanks for the help conscript.

[Carib]

What about these on this Canadian???

http://render-2.snapfish.com/render2/is=Yup6aQQ%7C%3Dup6RKKt%3Axxr%3D0-qpDPfRt7Pf7mrPfrj7t%3DzrRfDUX%3AeQaQxg%3Dr%3F87KR6xqpxQQJJxPeoxGJQxv8uOc5xQQQlanQQl0JGeqpfVtB%3F*KUp7BHSHqqy7XH6gX0QPaJ%7CRup6G00%7C/of=50,590,393

[Dispatcher]

My 5.11 HRT's are falling apart. I have them for 10months. Sucky quality, even for normal use. The sole is coming off. Rip off.

[Laconian]

My 5.11 HRT's are falling apart. I have them for 10months. Sucky quality, even for normal use. The sole is coming off. Rip off.

Do you have the black or the desert? I've two pairs of desert ones - the first pair started losing the sole in the heat of Qatar and Iraqthe boots were about 8-9 months old. The second pair have held up in the garrison duty of GA. I have a side zipper 6" that are okay. The black HRTs are okay, although I don't wear them because they are really hot.

I've been wearing desert Blackhawk Warrior Wear Light Assault Boots for about 3-4 months and they are very cool in hot weather, comfortable and holding up pretty well on the range and just sporting around at work. They are no good if you are going to be outside with any chance of rain. Feet get wet like crazy.

[Dispatcher]

Ive got the black ones. Im now looking into a good deal on some Bates.

[ShotOver]

I wear bates at the moment, have for about 6 months now. The M-9 Desert Assaul, they are a great boot - like wearing a pair of Nike Runners.

[digrar]

I stopped buying Nikes about 10 years ago, are your bates falling to bits like nikes do?

[ShotOver]

I stopped buying Nikes about 10 years ago, are your bates falling to bits like nikes do?


6 Months of some pretty hardwork and they are going strong, will get another pair soon though, or branch of to something else for the cold weather.

[Pete031]

If anyone is interested, I used a pair of Lowa Renegades overseas.... While they are pretty short, (so not for garrison) they are outstanding boots.

http://media.rei.com/media/681786.jpg

[uglybaby]

so does anybody have an opinion on wether Lowa's are true to size or run big like Meindls? I need to buy something by the 30th and am still torn between the LL Bean Cresta Hikers and the Lowa Trekkers. Both get great reviews, but I'd be buying the Lowa's blind.

[Pete031]

I find that the Lowa's are fitting.

[LRPV]

Why do we have multiple 'sticky' boot threads?

[digrar]

We had two themes of boot threads, ID these boots and general boot chit chat, so I merged about 1000 threads into two.

[uglybaby]

I find that the Lowa's are fitting.

How is the arch support? I have flat feet and anything with a strong arch support seems uncomfortable. I just got the LL Bean Cresta Hikers and although they seem very nice, the arch support is too much for me. They will probably be going back in a couple of days if I still feel it's a problem.

[zonk]

ok got a question on other than issued boots, I am looking for boots that are under $100 to replace my wellco desert boots. My wellco's are falling apart( sole seperating, stitching coming out) which is surprising being I have only worn them for 5 months. i have been looking at ranger joes and have come up with 2 possibles

http://www.rangerjoes.com/product_info.php?products_id=4379{1000}9287
http://www.rangerjoes.com/converse-boots-stealth-p-3694.html

my only concern is that the sizing will be different from my regular standard issue size. I wear a size 9 in the summer desert boots but a 10/10.5 in winter desert boots. i dont want to waste my time ordering boots for them not to fit when i recieve them. maybe someone can give me some clues. what I will be using them for is walking around the fob, driving trucks, and general army stuff. I have never bought aftermarket boots, so i haven't got a clue as to how they base the boot sizes whether it be off tennis shoe size or boot size.

[PathFindeR[BE]]

http://www.robera.se/pub_images/large/island_professional_264.jpg

Some say its a bit short, but imo it's great for your shins and heel and walks like a charme

[James]

How is the arch support? I have flat feet and anything with a strong arch support seems uncomfortable. I just got the LL Bean Cresta Hikers and although they seem very nice, the arch support is too much for me. They will probably be going back in a couple of days if I still feel it's a problem.

You should try some aftermarket insoles to replace those that come with the shoes. Try Superfeet or Oregon Aero.

[Panzerfaust99]

I love my east German winter boots( I know German is one country, but that is what they call them).
http://i93.photobucket.com/albums/l52/Panzer99/304b.jpg

[boreal]

http://www.rinaldis.it/public/big/135.jpg

Anyone here has tried any crispi boots?

[TRIAX]

As you are such a model?
belleville 310

http://img300.imageshack.us/img300/382/40zwm8.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

[Dan2004]

Ok, here's my problem. Several months ago I cleaned out my boot "collection." I donated several pairs to my unit's supply NCO, most were dessies (not explicitly authorized, S-4's hanging on to them for possible future issue), along with some black ones. The pairs that remain with me are my Sympatex Altamas, as well as a pair of 10" black Pro-Med ripple jungles, and an old-ass pair of OD Altama jungles (for that salty look p-)). I recently came to the realization that I do not possess a pair of temerate boots. I've been looking around, and I'm definitely not gonna cheap-out on boots (made that mistake back when I was green and stupid) nor do I want to pay out the ass.

I think I may have settled on a pair, so I need an opinion on them: What experience does anybody here have with Original SWAT Boots? - http://uscav.com/Productinfo.aspx?productID=5360&TabID=1&CatID=84

http://uscav.com/prodinfo/enlargedinsets/14619bL.jpg

Are they good? Okay? A waste of $$? Are they going to self-destruct on me when I try to break them in? Let me know what you guys think.

Thankyou,

Dan

[jasbar65]

has anyone every tried superfeet insoles in their boots? A few of my buddies have used them and love them. this site tells about the different kinds of superfeet. http://www.PremiumInsoleOutlet.com (http://www.premiuminsoleoutlet.com/)

[Lt. James Anderson]

I have tried them and they are OK (if you have low arches like me they might not work for you). SOF Soles work much better for me though. The problem with commercially available insoles is that they are all made the same and they might not suit your feet. So hopefully by trial and error you can find what works for you the best. Everybody's feet are different.

[Valkyries]

Vasque Sundowner Classics with Superfeet insoles. They are glorious.

x2 Ive had them almost 2 years now. Kinda on the heavy side, but well worth it.

[Galileo]

The new french army boots have been adopted by the Defense Ministry.
100 000 units are ordered to Meindl and delivery is scheduled in Q2 2009.

http://www.defense.gouv.fr/var/dicodrefonte/storage/images/media/images/terre/repertoire images/materiels majeurs/equipement individuel/nouveaux brodequins type meindel/1173982-1-fre-FR/nouveaux brodequins type meindel.jpg
http://www.defense.gouv.fr/var/dicodrefonte/storage/images/media/images/terre/repertoire_images/materiels_majeurs/equipement_individuel/nouveaux_brodequins_type_meindel/1173982-1-fre-FR/nouveaux_brodequins_type_meindel.jpg

[sikivar]

Very good boots.Where can I find them for buying?

[Galileo]

http://www.meindl.de/english/

[jetlag]

Very good boots.Where can I find them for buying?


why don't you get YDS's?

[xav]

Isn't gore tex too warm for operations in AFrica or A'stan (or even Guyana Jungle, but I doubt legionaires will get these)

[Herman the II]

French Army is buying German boots? Did they always had Meindl boots or is this a novum? Didn't knew, good boots though..
Great news for such a "small" company.

[scttgillies]

Meindls are crap when bought in bulk. Thats why they were slated when issued to the Brits in helmand. Mind that was desert foxes, and they didnt cut the mustard. The boys ended up getting issued Lowas.

[gilgoul]

Isn't gore tex too warm for operations in AFrica or A'stan (or even Guyana Jungle, but I doubt legionaires will get these)

For French Guyana; nothing like the good old Altama Jungle boots.
In less than 6 month I had 1 pair of bja "rotting" on me, the jungle boots that I smuggled in for the boonies served me perfectly, and I still have them (ok, in a sorry state now, they are nothing but a nice souvenir item).

[gilgoul]

The new french army boots have been adopted by the Defense Ministry.
100 000 units are ordered to Meindl and delivery is scheduled in Q2 2009.

http://www.defense.gouv.fr/var/dicodrefonte/storage/images/media/images/terre/repertoire%20images/materiels%20majeurs/equipement%20individuel/nouveaux%20brodequins%20type%20meindel/1173982-1-fre-FR/nouveaux%20brodequins%20type%20meindel.jpg
http://www.defense.gouv.fr/var/dicodrefonte/storage/images/media/images/terre/repertoire_images/materiels_majeurs/equipement_individuel/nouveaux_brodequins_type_meindel/1173982-1-fre-FR/nouveaux_brodequins_type_meindel.jpg

About time ;)
but those aren't re-solable.

[one-niner]

About time ;)
but those aren't re-solable.
Well, once the sole is gone, so is the Gore-Tex most likely.

[hanuta]

Meindls are crap when bought in bulk. Thats why they were slated when issued to the Brits in helmand. Mind that was desert foxes, and they didnt cut the mustard. The boys ended up getting issued Lowas.
Oh yeah, so if their is a once a failure everything in teh future is although a load of sh...it?*:bash:

[KilledByAGirl]

I was issued a pair of Altamas, and they've been quite comfortable, except that they are hell on my knees for some reason. I don't know the brand of my issued winter boots. I've never liked them, so I try to avoid wearing them. I should get them out and see. I like the Danner TFX GTX boots, but I have a question about the Fort Lewis ones since they are taller. My Altamas are 9", I believe, and the nylon ankle does not support very well. Do the Ft Lewis boots support the ankle very well? They're certainly pricey, so I'd have to be convinced! Plus, do the laces that come down the toe on the Danner duty boots make much difference? I've never liked the way it looks. Cheers.

[James]

has anyone every tried superfeet insoles in their boots? A few of my buddies have used them and love them. this site tells about the different kinds of superfeet. http://www.PremiumInsoleOutlet.com (http://www.premiuminsoleoutlet.com/)

GOD yes, they are awesome. Worth every penny.


I have tried them and they are OK (if you have low arches like me they might not work for you). SOF Soles work much better for me though. The problem with commercially available insoles is that they are all made the same and they might not suit your feet. So hopefully by trial and error you can find what works for you the best. Everybody's feet are different.

Well said. I love superfeet but I have high arches too.

[ColdOne]

my walking shoes, low model, great comfort and keeps my feet dry.
For mountain trekking i prefer Lundhags Pro....

Anyone here has tried any crispi boots?[/quote]

[Connaught Ranger]

Hallo Gents, anybody try to repair boot soles?

I have obtained a pair of Lowa Trekker boots through a Stock Clearance shop (The boots were obtained in Germany originaly) here in Deva, in the summer, the shop has since closed and of course in these places there is no money back as the price is so low, I paid 10 Euro for the boots.

The bonded sole is starting to come away from the uppers, while searching around on the net for a solution to use for a repair I hear about something called "Shoe Goo Glue" an American Product, anybody ever use the stuff or know if its obtainable in Europe? or via a shop site in the U.S.A.

These boots are great, very comfortable and fit my feet like a glove. I would hate to have to dump them.

Edit:- Please PM any relevant info as where to source the glue.

Connaught Ranger.

[Bushranger]

These boots are great, very comfortable and fit my feet like a glove. I would hate to have to dump them.

Connaught Ranger.

Ive used Shoe Goo in Oz & its great stuff, last for ages.

http://www.ausport.com.au/catalogue/c4/c91/p488

[James]

I've used it and it's pretty good stuff. Certainly worth a try, as it's cheap.

http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_ss_gw?url=search-alias%3Daps&field-keywords=shoe+goo&x=0&y=0

[Laconian]

Shoo Goo, good for boots, shoes, sneakers and practical jokes! If you can get some it'll probably fix the problem.

[megusen]

I used to fix my skateshoes with shoe goo. worked pretty well.
It looks almost like hot glue on your shoe.

[GETSOME]

Shoo Goo, good for boots, shoes, sneakers and practical jokes! If you can get some it'll probably fix the problem.
Ghillie suits as well.p-)

[ProPatria]

So I just picked up a pair of Rocky S2V boots. I was just looking for some peoples opinion about these. Primarily people who have worn them in all areas (the field, garrison Afghanistan/Iraq).

Here's a pic of them.
http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a255/02MiniMan/102.jpg

[Pete031]

They are good boots. If your CSM lets you wear them.

I wouldn't want black for A-Stan though.

[ProPatria]

My CSM doesnt care what we wear on our feet or what have for tav vest/chest rigs....and im not going to be wearing a black boot over seas lol....would hide the bloodstains though, i learned that from the last roto.

[Pete031]

Soooo, what is your question then?

[Albatross]

Anyone have anything on the Nike Combat Boot? I did a search and couldn't find anything. No reason, I wont be buying them but I am curious as to the design. If you have something cool, but don't waste anytime in the great search.

[Hammer27]

This is what I heard in February. According to someone in the SEAL's thread the recent pictures of Lance Armstrong in BUD/S has him wearing the Nike boots.

"Thanks for writing to Nike with your suggestion that Nike product a tactical boot. In reading your email, I can really tell how much you think of Nike and the quality of the footwear that we produce.

Although I don't have specific information, Nike has been developing a SFB (Special Forces Boot). This product is still in development and the idea is to take a military boot to a whole new level for functionality of movement.

The information that I have is that design elements are being worked on, and that this is also being wear tested currently.

That being said, I would like let you know that we always welcome feedback from consumers and it is through the feedback of consumers like yourself that we are able to improve our products.

Additionally, I am going to include your email with the feedback that we receive so that we can pass this to the proper departments.

We appreciate your support of Nike."

[ProPatria]

Soooo, what is your question then?

Sorry if i didn't make it obvious in my first post. I was just wondering what people thought of them, how they perform, hold up in the field etc...

[Pete031]

They are GTG. Not the top tier of footwear, but are pretty good. A lot of the guys wear them.

[siquq]

What commercially available combat boots are permitted for wear by the CF?

I love my gortex boots, even though they are skates in cold weather and ovens in hot weather, but I would buy myself another option if it is allowed.

I realise that I will incur the wrath of some who might accuse me of inadequately searching, but what the heck....

Thanks for the help.

[offspring]

i here they use the boots that go on your feet

[Roy Batty]

It depends on your RSM. Some units allow anything as long as they are 8" high and black, others have lists of allowable footware. It varies from unit to unit and even Bn to Bn.

[boone]

It depends on your RSM. Some units allow anything as long as they are 8" high and black, others have lists of allowable footware. It varies from unit to unit and even Bn to Bn.
/thread.
.................

[siquq]

i here they use the boots that go on your feet


This is why I love mp.net!

But actually, I meant hand-boots. Sorry for the confusion.

[GETSOME]

Hey ,does anyone have any tips on how to clean canvass boots,like the Hi-tecs or Converse type boot,any advice welcome,thanks.p-)

[congofal]

A little late on this thread but here's my contribution
'50s French Canvas boots

http://i242.photobucket.com/albums/ff22/Adler69_photo/Edspics204-1.jpg

http://i242.photobucket.com/albums/ff22/Adler69_photo/Edspics205.jpg

http://i242.photobucket.com/albums/ff22/Adler69_photo/Edspics207-1.jpg

http://i242.photobucket.com/albums/ff22/Adler69_photo/Edspics206-1.jpg

Also , i found this babies in a Thrift Store this Summer , paid a whole $8.00 USD for them.
Mint condition WWII US ARMY Double Buckle boots

http://img402.imageshack.us/img402/7405/edspics137kr8.jpg

http://img516.imageshack.us/img516/4342/edspics138bv8.jpg

[congofal]

Also have a nice pair of WWII Luftwaffe Insulated boots , bought this in California at a boot store , they had them marked as Engineer boots for $20.00 USD

http://img129.imageshack.us/img129/5498/spics058dc4.jpg

[flanker7]

As I understand from reading this thread, Meindl's are great boots.

Any particular comment about their "Eagle Combat Boot" model?

[Creeper]

Not sure if anyone has seen these boots in the field ,,,but wanted to drop this company on ya:
https://www.otbboots.com/main.html

[nickless]

As I understand from reading this thread, Meindl's are great boots.

Any particular comment about their "Eagle Combat Boot" model?

It's a very light boot, lighter even than the popular Desert Fox/Desert All Terrain boots, so this is not the boot you want if you carry heavy equipment in difficult terrain. I think the Eagle is more suitable for police than military work, but maybe that's what you're looking for.

[flanker7]

Thank you!

[Catch22]

Eagles are good, but for hispeed work I'd rather recommend their Cobra model - it's Meindl equivalent to old GSG9 Adidas.

I've been at the Meindl factory some two months ago and talked w few hours to the Meindl brothers and the guy responsible for development of Mil/Leo line - Werner. They are in process of upgrading few models - like Desert Fox (rubber band on toes, some changes to the lower oversole, cushioning etc). They are willing to modify or run a small number unit specific production - from 50 pcs if you just want small changes to the existing design, up to completely new model if the demand is for over 500 pairs.

Well I've got 5 pairs of Meindl's so I guess they bought me even earlier ;-)

[GETSOME]

Has anyboby got a link or any info on the new Nike desert boots?

[Lt. James Anderson]

Just bought me a pair of Belleville boots 390's.
They are light, comfortable, and require (almost) no break in. Still have to test them on a ruck march though.

Anybody has any experience with these boots?

[Troubadour]

I need a good pair of boots to last me, but I don't wanna spend a lot. They aren't for grunt or military work, just for civilian use so I probably couldn't damage them too much. They just need to be strong enough to stand up to running, hiking, and the things that you'd need boots for.

They need to be tan and under $100, preferably even under $50.

[digrar]

Runners are for running, boots are for walking.

[Troubadour]

Runners are for running, boots are for walking.

Running on rough surfaces.

Would it hurt you to just be helpful?

[digrar]

I am being helpful, running in boots is not a good idea, you only get issued so much cartilage, you don't want to be wasting it all running in boots not designed for running. You'll do more harm than good.
If you want to run on rough surface look at running shoes designed for that purpose.

http://img387.imageshack.us/img387/4534/asicsgeleagletrailgoretdg9.jpg

For example.

[Troubadour]

http://www.botachtactical.com/5at8cobo.html


Just ordered these hope they dont suck.

[Erik2a4]

Just got a pair of Blundstones. Sizing is different from my usual (yes, I know how to convert from Australian to American shoe sizes p-)) but very comfy.

Needed something to fill in the footwear line between Asolo hiking boots and Rainbow sandals.

I will not be tap-dancing in them.

Any Aussies (or others) with recommendation on what to treat the leather with?

[digrar]

What sort of finish are they? Dubbin is probably the go if they're just the normal brown leather ones.

[Erik2a4]

What sort of finish are they? Dubbin is probably the go if they're just the normal brown leather ones.

Normal brown leather. Right, dubbin should do it. Thanks much.

[Roy Batty]

http://www.botachtactical.com/5at8cobo.html


Just ordered these hope they dont suck.

Mine fell apart in about 1 month in Afghanistan. Hope you have better luck.......

[mutionu]

Has anyone tried Bundeswehr new, Haix made, boots by yourself?
http://www.recon-company.com/GAF_Combat_Boots_New_Style_Size_37_240__48_310_-788-687-d.html
Are they any good? I know that Haix made boots are good but are those?
Sry for my english :)

[Dan2004]

Recieved these about 2 weeks ago for garrison wear:

http://img383.imageshack.us/img383/2746/corcoransaj4.jpg

Cove HH Jump Boots. Break-in time was about 4 days, they're fairly comfy, and they take a real nice shine.

Dan

[UK1RPO]

Has anyone tried the Alfa shoe range? Norwegian brand. Such as Alfa Bever Pro or Alfa
JEGERSTØVEL?

I'm looking to get some new boots for the field, as we're allowed to buy certain boots now. The preference are Lowa's here, but I just want to explore other options firstly.

[Britboy]

Alright everyone, thinking of getting a couple of pairs of boots for the field (and keeping the issued ones for best only, since, although they are okay, my feet don't really agree with them!) - was thinking one pair for winter and one for summer.

Now I've already asked about the winter boots and apparently Danners are the shizzle, much to the consternation of my bank account but hey. I know a lot of guys wearing Lowas and suchlike as well (Meindl, Hanwag?) so thats a lot of choice too.

But in terms of lightweight boots for summer, just wanted to grab everyones opinion on here.

Been trying to track down some Pro Boot Stealths or some Magnum Amazons at a good price, but they are usually only available in crazy-mad sizes like 4 or 14! Has anyone had any experience with either of these? I know Magnums have a bad rep amongst the troops and really make boots for police and ambulancemen etc, but am thinking the Amazons can't be that bad as they are issued as Hot Weather Boot?
Also know Pro Boot made the Cold Wet Combat Boots for the Army originally, and were meant to be good, so thinking their lightweight boot, 'Stealth', could be worth a look in.

The other thing I was wondering was going American, I have seen Bates being offered on UK online shops, now are they worthwhile or not? I'm sure it'd be possible to get hold of other US boots (Belleville? Wellco?) but not so easy, however I know Bates are more easily available, so if anyone has any experience with them, or with any of the other boots, or knows where to get them at a better price, please let us know.

Cheers!
BB

[Royal]

Been trying to track down some Pro Boot Stealths or some Magnum Amazons at a good price, but they are usually only available in crazy-mad sizes like 4 or 14! Has anyone had any experience with either of these? I know Magnums have a bad rep amongst the troops and really make boots for police and ambulancemen etc, but am thinking the Amazons can't be that bad as they are issued as Hot Weather Boot?

Oh the naivety! If the MoD issued them, they must be good?!!!!!!!!!!!

Put them down, step away slowly and then run. Personally I used Altama jungle and desert boots (which were issued to those of us with clout instead of Magnums) most of the time for camp/office/veh borne stuff and even short urban patroling (as well as in the trees). For heavy work with a bergan some swore by Adidas GSG9s (although I think that they have as little ankle support as the Altamas) others went for Altbergs - I would probably do the same now.


Also know Pro Boot made the Cold Wet Combat Boots for the Army originally, and were meant to be good, so thinking their lightweight boot, 'Stealth', could be worth a look in.

The MoD dropped the original Pro Boot (an excellent boot) because it was too expensive (it was made in Bristol). The factory went bust, so I have no idea where the new ones were made, but one look at the Pro Boot desert boot suggests somewhere in the Far East. I would advise caution.


The other thing I was wondering was going American, I have seen Bates being offered on UK online shops, now are they worthwhile or not? I'm sure it'd be possible to get hold of other US boots (Belleville? Wellco?) but not so easy, however I know Bates are more easily available, so if anyone has any experience with them, or with any of the other boots, or knows where to get them at a better price, please let us know.

I'll let the Yanks comment on that, but I'd still go for Danners. Look after them, get them resoled every once in a while and they'll last 10 years (of ops) - that's enough for most soldiers.

[Vince S]

So I browsed this thread looking for some info about good working boot, found a bit of what I'm looking but figured I could ask anyway.

So basically after 4 years, my boots are good for retirement. Sole is ripping off, leather begins to unstitch at many places, but hell they've withstanded a lot.

I'm working in a machine shop, meaning that my boots will be in contact with coolant and oil, hence the sole needs to be Oil Proof, they sure need to be steel toed and possibly black. (my last ones were "roughout" and they are atrociously dirty and soaked in oil...)

I don't do much of walking but I'm standing for long periods of time, so sole cushion is an issue to me.

Price isn't really an issue since my work pays back half of it p-) and I know quality lasts longer.

So what would you guys suggest?

Thanks

[Scrim]

But in terms of lightweight boots for summer, just wanted to grab everyones opinion on here.

Im just not sold on these new fangled "deserty" looking summer boots that every one is issued now. I have a pair of Corcorans, and here in hot humid Georgia they are crap. Inevitably they will get wet, they take days to dry out, stink to high heaven when they do, and are a pain in the ass to clean when very dirty. I doubt they would do much better in the damp UK. Just my opinion. Maybe some of our serving members have better opinions in non desert use?
Ive gone back to the good old green junglies, much better in the hot and wet, and a hell of a lot cheaper.

[UK1RPO]

Alright everyone, thinking of getting a couple of pairs of boots for the field (and keeping the issued ones for best only, since, although they are okay, my feet don't really agree with them!) - was thinking one pair for winter and one for summer.

Now I've already asked about the winter boots and apparently Danners are the shizzle, much to the consternation of my bank account but hey. I know a lot of guys wearing Lowas and suchlike as well (Meindl, Hanwag?) so thats a lot of choice too.

But in terms of lightweight boots for summer, just wanted to grab everyones opinion on here.

Been trying to track down some Pro Boot Stealths or some Magnum Amazons at a good price, but they are usually only available in crazy-mad sizes like 4 or 14! Has anyone had any experience with either of these? I know Magnums have a bad rep amongst the troops and really make boots for police and ambulancemen etc, but am thinking the Amazons can't be that bad as they are issued as Hot Weather Boot?
Also know Pro Boot made the Cold Wet Combat Boots for the Army originally, and were meant to be good, so thinking their lightweight boot, 'Stealth', could be worth a look in.

The other thing I was wondering was going American, I have seen Bates being offered on UK online shops, now are they worthwhile or not? I'm sure it'd be possible to get hold of other US boots (Belleville? Wellco?) but not so easy, however I know Bates are more easily available, so if anyone has any experience with them, or with any of the other boots, or knows where to get them at a better price, please let us know.

Cheers!
BB

I'm pretty much in the same boat, will be nice to see some replies !

[Erik2a4]

Im just not sold on these new fangled "deserty" looking summer boots that every one is issued now. I have a pair of Corcorans, and here in hot humid Georgia they are crap. Inevitably they will get wet, they take days to dry out, stink to high heaven when they do, and are a pain in the ass to clean when very dirty. I doubt they would do much better in the damp UK. Just my opinion. Maybe some of our serving members have better opinions in non desert use?
Ive gone back to the good old green junglies, much better in the hot and wet, and a hell of a lot cheaper.

I'm not a fan of "rough-side out" boots in all climates...especially swamps/jungles...either. I also find that the rough-side out leather absorbs a lot of moisture when walking through dew-soaked undergrowth.

You can try treating your boots with a waterproofing mixture (silicon) which may absolutely destroy the "look" of the rough-side out leather boot, but may prevent them from acting like a giant sponge.

[digrar]

So I browsed this thread looking for some info about good working boot, found a bit of what I'm looking but figured I could ask anyway.
...........
So what would you guys suggest?

Thanks

The first ones on this page, the Argyles. If you like your boot a bit taller, go for the Portlands, exactly the same boot, just a bit more lacing required and the top couple of inches has some comfy padding.

http://www.steelblue.com.au/default.aspx?MenuID=56
http://www.steelblue.com.au/default.aspx?MenuID=55


I've been wearing these for about 8 years now, I get about a year out of mine, but they get coated in ammonium nitrate and the lace eyes fall out of them and the rock kicking associated with working on the pit floor in a mine takes a fair toll.

[boone]

@ Vince S
Redwings (http://www.redwingshoes.com/) have done me fine.
Like dig, mine last about a year...maybe a little less. The after-market service is great and relatively cheap (cheaper than buying new boots)
When you buy them, you can have them re-soled to a softer sole with a hard cover that works great if you're spending a lot of time stationary or on hard surfaces.
Kind of pricey but worth it, IMHO.
My .02

[Britboy]

Oh the naivety! If the MoD issued them, they must be good?!!!!!!!!!!!

Put them down, step away slowly and then run. Personally I used Altama jungle and desert boots (which were issued to those of us with clout instead of Magnums) most of the time for camp/office/veh borne stuff and even short urban patroling (as well as in the trees). For heavy work with a bergan some swore by Adidas GSG9s (although I think that they have as little ankle support as the Altamas) others went for Altbergs - I would probably do the same now.



The MoD dropped the original Pro Boot (an excellent boot) because it was too expensive (it was made in Bristol). The factory went bust, so I have no idea where the new ones were made, but one look at the Pro Boot desert boot suggests somewhere in the Far East. I would advise caution.



I'll let the Yanks comment on that, but I'd still go for Danners. Look after them, get them resoled every once in a while and they'll last 10 years (of ops) - that's enough for most soldiers.

As ever, Royal, you offer good counsel!

True, perhaps its OTT to expect great kit as its MoD issued; perhaps I should've said 'less sh1te than what appears to be the experience with typical Magnums'! That said a lot of new MoD kit is pretty good, bashas, bivis, NI pack etc.

Still planning on the Danners/similar boot (when I can man up the courage to shell out for them, fecking pricey) but was thinking of something lighter for when a waterproof lining etc may be OTT. There again, its the UK, not the tropics, so a winter boot may well do people all year round, I've certainly seen some people wearing Lowas in summer when others were in jungle boots... There again, seen some people with fecked up feet as well.

[Gungnir]

I have
Belleville 390 DES
Belleville 790

and my personal favorite -

Blackhawk Warrior Wear Desert Ops Boots in Coyote Brown... only unauthorized because they are Coyote Brown and not Desert Tan but it is for field use, in garrison I follow the rules.
I found these much more comfortable compared to the Bellevilles


hopefully the army doesn't put that Army Certified stamp or (Especially) the 'Army Strong' logo on boots AND make it mandatory. :roll:

[James]

So I browsed this thread looking for some info about good working boot, found a bit of what I'm looking but figured I could ask anyway.

So basically after 4 years, my boots are good for retirement. Sole is ripping off, leather begins to unstitch at many places, but hell they've withstanded a lot.

I'm working in a machine shop, meaning that my boots will be in contact with coolant and oil, hence the sole needs to be Oil Proof, they sure need to be steel toed and possibly black. (my last ones were "roughout" and they are atrociously dirty and soaked in oil...)

I don't do much of walking but I'm standing for long periods of time, so sole cushion is an issue to me.

Price isn't really an issue since my work pays back half of it p-) and I know quality lasts longer.

So what would you guys suggest?

Thanks

Check out Blundstones.

[Royal]

Still planning on the Danners/similar boot (when I can man up the courage to shell out for them, fecking pricey) but was thinking of something lighter for when a waterproof lining etc may be OTT. There again, its the UK, not the tropics, so a winter boot may well do people all year round, I've certainly seen some people wearing Lowas in summer when others were in jungle boots... There again, seen some people with fecked up feet as well.

The Danner Accadia comes with and without the Thinsulate lining. By the end I had three pairs:

Black with lining - the oldest pair - they were 13 years old (4th sole) when I got out.
Black without lining - going on 9 years (2nd sole)
Sand suede with lining - used from 2002 (when my Merrells died) to endex in 06

[Britboy]

Well bugger me, 4 soles and 13yrs use! Never seen boots last that long, a pair of issued Assault boots even died on me after 6 weeks!

Danners are pricey but if theres the option to resole them and just keep on going, then perhaps it saves money in the longterm from not needing new boots. And of course, you would have good boots on, rather than ones falling to bits. Very tempting...

[UK1RPO]

I heard the HanWag Special Forces GTX GoreTex were a quality choice.

I also her Altbergs were to go for, those are the two i'm stuck between. Leaning towards the HanWags however.

[Britboy]

Hanwags sound like another good winter boot, TBH I wouldn't know what to go for with those, Lowas, Meindls, Hanwags et al all seem very alike, even down to how they look. I know people who swear by Lowas and I know the Meindl desert boots are well thought of and they make a cracking hiking boot in the 'Burma', but how you make a choice between that lot? Guess you just go with whatever the shop has in stock :p

Danners do sound tempting though, what with the keep-going-forever reputation. Unlucky for me the cheapest I can find Danner Acadias in the UK is 180 squid! Argh!

OCDT, if you are doing the various modules, be aware that DS do have views on what is allowed kit-and-boots-wise, and what is not. Some allow some gucci kit, but there are always some who insist on issue only. Just to let you know you do still need to break those assault boots in, since you don't want a straight-out-of-the-box pair or a pair that don't fit during, say, your Mod 3.

[Erik2a4]

Well bugger me, 4 soles and 13yrs use! Never seen boots last that long, a pair of issued Assault boots even died on me after 6 weeks!

Danners are pricey but if theres the option to resole them and just keep on going, then perhaps it saves money in the longterm from not needing new boots. And of course, you would have good boots on, rather than ones falling to bits. Very tempting...

Agree. I am now surrounded by new boots that don't fit properly, even though they're the exact same brand and model as previous boots that I had broken in and worn down.

My view now is that once I find a pair of boots that "fit" me and are broken in, I want to keep them for 10 years and however many resolings.

[mick4075]

Altbergs are the way ahead if you are going to do any distance on your feet at a rapid rate. The Microlite is an ideal 'Summer' boot but will work just as well in tougher conditions with goretex inners or sealskinz socks.But the Peacekeeper is probably the best all round Infantry boot for all seasons.I have both and wouldn't be without them and have drawn the wrath of many a Sergeant Major because of them. No point being a SNCO if you can't wear what you know is best.

[Sneeker]

The Danner Accadia comes with and without the Thinsulate lining. By the end I had three pairs:

Black with lining - the oldest pair - they were 13 years old (4th sole) when I got out.
Black without lining - going on 9 years (2nd sole)
Sand suede with lining - used from 2002 (when my Merrells died) to endex in 06

Ive have had a Pair of Accadia's for 3 years now everyday ware for 16 hr's a day everything from road to mud +30 to -40 and im on the 3rd sole now. No insilation just need polly socks for when it really gets cold. Just Bought my second pair of Accaidias just 1/2 a size bigger for bigger socks, I tend to sweat in them just a little in them so im just going to rotate the boots to help them dry out a little.

Awsome boot.

[UK1RPO]

Hanwags sound like another good winter boot, TBH I wouldn't know what to go for with those, Lowas, Meindls, Hanwags et al all seem very alike, even down to how they look. I know people who swear by Lowas and I know the Meindl desert boots are well thought of and they make a cracking hiking boot in the 'Burma', but how you make a choice between that lot? Guess you just go with whatever the shop has in stock :p

Danners do sound tempting though, what with the keep-going-forever reputation. Unlucky for me the cheapest I can find Danner Acadias in the UK is 180 squid! Argh!

OCDT, if you are doing the various modules, be aware that DS do have views on what is allowed kit-and-boots-wise, and what is not. Some allow some gucci kit, but there are always some who insist on issue only. Just to let you know you do still need to break those assault boots in, since you don't want a straight-out-of-the-box pair or a pair that don't fit during, say, your Mod 3.

Yepp I am aware of that, we're allowed our own kit now, my issue boots are great, I would however prefer something a little more comfortable. I will double check with my DS, I know lowa's and I've seen some GSG9s around, but i'm not sure about HanWags I could always double check.

[Catch22]

About time ;)
but those aren't re-solable.

Sorry to dig out rather old thread, but just for your information gilgoul - these Meindls are relatively easily resolable. Just send them back to the manufacturer and they'll put a new sole on it. And no - the gore-tex membrane isn't actually to fragile or ****e to wear.

As for the Brits issue with Desert Foxes - they were some changes introduced to the boot, to improve the weaker spots on the sides.

[Climber]

I work as a Mountain Guide in the Andes, I have many boots for diferent kind of things.

[UK1RPO]

Would anyone suggest that going for NON goretex boots to be better than goretex?

[Climber]

Would anyone suggest that going for NON goretex boots to be better than goretex?

It depends in the use you are going to give the boots.

Non Gore Tex are usually less expensive. And If you are not going to use on watery/icy/snowy enviroments, a Non Gore Tex is okay. And even in those enviroments, a boot made of one piece of leather, could be very good even w/o GT.

[UK1RPO]

That's the impression I got. GoreTex sometimes has less breath ability than non GTX. I am leaning towards a non GoreTex which is the HanWag Special Forces LX which is leather lined which can be waterproofed.

[Sato]

I have;

Lowa Combat boot GTX.

Haix airpower P3

[GETSOME]

Does anyone have any suggestions on how to make a leather boot more comfortable or absorb the shock, for static line jumping?p-)

[Erik2a4]

Does anyone have any suggestions on how to make a leather boot more comfortable or absorb the shock, for static line jumping?p-)

http://www.walmart.com/catalog/product.do?product_id=4184093

[dwight]

http://shop.packyourbags.com/acatalog/t_meindl_jersey_pro.jpg
Ive got myself a nice pair of this boot next to my standard leather boots, any opinion about this one?

[GETSOME]

http://www.walmart.com/catalog/product.do?product_id=4184093
:lol: Thanks dude ,but they dont seem to have my size.:)

[tactical73]

Lowa Combat boot GTX +++++++1;-)

[KilledByAGirl]

I've had the Danner TFX GTX, or whatever they're called, for a while now (with superfeet greens), and I love them, so I picked up a pair of Acadias. Got them brand new on eBay for $76. No way I could afford $275!

[Laconian]

I know this is the boot section, but has anyone else tried "Darn Tough" socks? Got a pair the other day for T&E. Holy moly! The things are incredible. Great stuff. Buy some, your feet will worship for them.

http://www.darntough.com/

[KilledByAGirl]

Hey, anyone who wants some decent desert boots but can't spend much, LA Police Gear has Wellco's on closeout for $17.99, normally $110.

http://www.lapolicegear.com/wellco-3-layer-hot-weather-combat-boot.html

[Britboy]

I've had the Danner TFX GTX, or whatever they're called, for a while now (with superfeet greens), and I love them, so I picked up a pair of Acadias. Got them brand new on eBay for $76. No way I could afford $275!

Who on ebay did you buy those off?

For the sake of my bank account, please tell :)

[KilledByAGirl]

Who on ebay did you buy those off?

For the sake of my bank account, please tell :)

Just a private seller. There was another pair on there, same type and size, that went for $1 more a couple of hours before mine. There tends to be size 11s on there for desert Danners from what I've seen.

[TallGuy]

L.A. Police Gear has some good stuff but their international shipping policy is ridiculous:


The following information is required in order to process your international order. Failure to complete any of these steps will cause your order to be cancelled.


A copy of your credit card (front and back)*
A photo identification
A credit card billing statement

[Dan2004]

Hey, anyone who wants some decent desert boots but can't spend much, LA Police Gear has Wellco's on closeout for $17.99, normally $110.

http://www.lapolicegear.com/wellco-3-layer-hot-weather-combat-boot.html

Sweet. Just ordered a pair. :)

[BlackhawkCY]

Not sure if anyone has seen these boots in the field ,,,but wanted to drop this company on ya:
https://www.otbboots.com/main.html

seen a few models from that company nice boots but not very comfy the water series ate least plus the sole of the boot would not protect you if you stepped on a sea urchin since it uses a mesh to drain the water.


What laces do SEALs use? and what type of know do they tie their high speed laces?

AFAIK Seals do not have standardized laces.... a good replacement for destroyed laces is buyiing 5.11 laces or using parachute cord.

on a lighter note here are some pics of the nike special forces boots

http://weeklydrop.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/07/100_6794.jpghttp://weeklydrop.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/07/100_6794.jpg
http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=65745&d=1233363065

http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=65746&d=1233363065

http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=65747&d=1233363065
http://weeklydrop.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/07/100_6797.jpg

http://weeklydrop.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/07/100_6801.jpg

http://weeklydrop.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/07/100_6801.jpg

they do not appear to be built for abuse.... if you are thinking of buyiing a sport/military boot i definitely recomend oakleys





If the sign on the side (triangle thing) bothers you know that the newer versions come without it.

[BlackhawkCY]

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[Battlebuds]

Just got these today, going to be getting some decent amount of field time next 2.5 months, see how they do.

[BlackhawkCY]

I bought those too. Havent really tried them on yet, but hey do appear really decently made and tend to make 5.11 move towards military market rather than CT units. The lace tie thingi though is not as good as i thought it would be.

[CQB_Operator]

Lowa Combat boot GTX +++++++1;-)

Not authorized for para jumps ('cos of the hooks)p-)

[CQB_Operator]

Does anyone have any suggestions on how to make a leather boot more comfortable or absorb the shock, for static line jumping?p-)

these shoes are excellent
http://www.polimil.co.uk/acatalog/copy_of_Lowa_-_Urban_Police_GTX_M.P.S_Boot__126.95.html

you just have to add these
http://www.yoursole.com/products/footbeds/softec/ultra/

[GETSOME]

^^^
Thanks for thatp-)

[ZoneOne]

I've got 2 pairs of the Rocky Sv2's - The pair that fits, I love them. I've used them a bunch in the field and on ruck marches. The pair that doesn't fit, well... they are brand new if anyone wants them. PM me

Sz 7.5R -- They run big - I usually wear a 9 or 9.5 in running shoes.

[ProPatria]

I have a pair of the S2V's. I love them. I can't see myself finding another boot that I like so much.

[tactical73]

Not authorized for para jumps ('cos of the hooks)p-)
it exists the version desert for the para jumps;-)

[CQB_Operator]

it exists the version desert for the para jumps;-)

Wich one?? Urban Desert or Desert Elite????

[tactical73]

the seeker desert PT ;-)

[Battlebuds]

Broke my new xpert tacts (pic above) in on a 13k ruck Friday, worked great.

[ProPatria]

Battlebuds were you on the recce selection?

[marineGR]

Does anyone have experience with Starforce boots?

http://www.starforce.info/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=2&Itemid=

[fluke007]

Plese Help to choose the uniform boot

Striker II EMS Uniform Boots (http://www.danner.com/product/uniform+boots/uninsulated/striker+ii+ems+uniform+boots.do)


VS

Striker™ Side Zip GTX NMT Uniform Boots - 8" (http://www.danner.com/product/uniform+boots/uninsulated/striker%26trade-+side+zip+gtx+nmt+uniform+boots+-+8%26quot-.do)

[digrar]

The rest of us manage quite well with the standard font, cheers.

[BlackhawkCY]

Broke my new xpert tacts (pic above) in on a 13k ruck Friday, worked great.

any more details on how and what broke?

[KillaICM]

Anyone have some experience with the new oakely made in usa boots? I think most of the posts in this thread talking about oakley boots were the old made in wherever ones. I am talking about this one:



Anyone have these?

[BlackhawkCY]

I have the black ones. The old model ones were great went about 2X 50 km marches and were fine. As for the new i have not tested them yet but they did not feel as comfortable as the old model. The build quality appears to be the same except the sole which is of a different design. It is more of an offroad design were as the old ones appeared to be city oriented

[James]

I've seen numerous pairs of Oakley's worn in A'Stan by others (not me) start to fall apart after just a couple of months. It's always been the toe of the sole separating from the upper to start, followed by the rest of the sole peeling off. My old fashioned Vasques, on the other hand, seem indestructible. Danners are good, Bellewille and Wellco military boots are good... I don't have a very high opinion of "assault boots" that really seem to be nothing more than beefed up athletic shoes. They're probably fine for urban areas, but in more than 15 years of training and spending time in the field, I've never seen them take hard use very well.

[tactical73]

for hard and intensive use the lowa is very comfortable also for urban areas;-)

[priboi]

hey, what you suggest to choose from
http://global.magnumboots.com/en/product_more_info/boots/elite_series/6/
or
http://www.altama.com/Tp1/item_detail.aspx?ItemCode=4155

i need boots that would be comfortable and dont be wet from sweat at summer time / and wont be very cold at winter.
:roll:

[Royal]

hey, what you suggest to choose from
http://global.magnumboots.com/en/product_more_info/boots/elite_series/6/
or
http://www.altama.com/Tp1/item_detail.aspx?ItemCode=4155

i need boots that would be comfortable and dont be wet from sweat at summer time / and wont be very cold at winter.
:roll:

Neither.

The Magnums are a. crap and b. will cook your feet in hot weather.
The Altamas will be cold in winter.

[LongShot]

I've seen numerous pairs of Oakley's worn in A'Stan by others (not me) start to fall apart after just a couple of months. It's always been the toe of the sole separating from the upper to start, followed by the rest of the sole peeling off. My old fashioned Vasques, on the other hand, seem indestructible. Danners are good, Bellewille and Wellco military boots are good... I don't have a very high opinion of "assault boots" that really seem to be nothing more than beefed up athletic shoes. They're probably fine for urban areas, but in more than 15 years of training and spending time in the field, I've never seen them take hard use very well.


X2....Oakleys do not hold up.

[Kvakva]

hey, what you suggest to choose from
http://global.magnumboots.com/en/product_more_info/boots/elite_series/6/
or
http://www.altama.com/Tp1/item_detail.aspx?ItemCode=4155

i need boots that would be comfortable and dont be wet from sweat at summer time / and wont be very cold at winter.
:roll:
Magnums will die on you very fast. I've been abusing BELEVILLE 700 USAF through this autumn-winter and felt great (2 pair of socks thin and thick wool). Gonna continue to abuse them all year long, but maybe you should buy separate boots for summer/winter.

[priboi]

thanks ill will choose BELEVILLE :)

[Kvakva]

thanks ill will choose BELEVILLE :)
Just choose them carefully (the pair) they are not magic and indestructible. But i'm and others who wear them around me are happy with them.

[Battlebuds]

any more details on how and what broke?


Opps my fault, I always mix around words, or leave them out by mistake.

I broke in my new boots on the march, worked great.

[ProPatria]

Opps my fault, I always mix around words, or leave them out by mistake.

I broke in my new boots on the march, worked great.

I say again, we're you on the recce selection week?

[Battlebuds]

I say again, we're you on the recce selection week?

..... Check pms

[BlackhawkCY]

Opps my fault, I always mix around words, or leave them out by mistake.

I broke in my new boots on the march, worked great.

as in march where mountainous regions/ sand/ mixed offroad with pavement

which part broke stiches/sole/leather?

was it due to accidental abuse or more of as i was walking the sole went off

[Battlebuds]

as in march where mountainous regions/ sand/ mixed offroad with pavement

which part broke stiches/sole/leather?

was it due to accidental abuse or more of as i was walking the sole went off


Sorry man, Broke in is sort of a term or slang, meaning to wear your boots for the first time, take their field virginity if you will? Used in the field for the first time.

Nothing on the actual boot broke, they are 100% working order. I marched 13k on a mix of snow, ice, gravel, and paved road, up and down hill. Didnt slip around to much, excellent ankle support.

Only problem is the laces they come with like to creep up out of your boot and become unlaced, I will probably replace them before next field time.

[BlackhawkCY]

Broke my new xpert tacts (pic above) in on a 13k ruck Friday, worked great. I was still with the idea of broke and not broken in from ur previous post. :S

On my other 5.11 boots i used to change the laces to parachute cords when they got worn out and used to tuck them in the side where the hidden pouch is...

[Battlebuds]

I was wondering about that little pouch and if it would hold the laces, cool thinking man.

[Roy Batty]

I bought those 5.11 boots and they did'nt last 5 weeks over here. I tossed them in the trash and bought Meindels......

[tactical73]

new Lowa boots Zephyr Highcut desert GTX available between few day http://i240.photobucket.com/albums/ff193/tactical73/ZephyrHighcut.jpg

http://i240.photobucket.com/albums/ff193/tactical73/ZephyrHighcut1.jpg

[KillaICM]

new Lowa boots Zephyr Highcut desert GTX available between few day http://i240.photobucket.com/albums/ff193/tactical73/ZephyrHighcut.jpg

http://i240.photobucket.com/albums/ff193/tactical73/ZephyrHighcut1.jpg

Hmm, those boots are not on their site.
Have any more info on them?

[tactical73]

just mine they arrive I will put more information

[Zarkus]

They look like a militarized version of these...

http://www.zappos.com/n/p/dp/50837940/c/7386.html

[UK1RPO]

http://www.lansdaleltd.com/images/SF-LX-D-New-www.jpg
http://www.lansdaleltd.com/images/Hangtx-sole-www.jpg

HanWag Boots Special Forces LX

These are the versions without the Gore-Tex.

I was told that the non-GoreTex version was better as it allows the boots to dry quicker.

Anyone have any experience on these Boots? Need to get some - going on Exmoor soon.

[Royal]

Anyone have any experience on these Boots? Need to get some - going on Exmoor soon.

If you're going adventure training get some decent walking boots.

[UK1RPO]

If you're going adventure training get some decent walking boots.

Nah not for AT - but I've got a good pair of Salomon's but I thought of getting some Hanwags for fieldwork. Prep for Battle Camp and hopefully Cambrian.

I've heard mixed things, but I suppose it comes down to a matter of personal usage.

[Royal]

Prep for Battle Camp and hopefully Cambrian.

Check the kit list for both before you go spending money...

[ProPatria]

Does anyone know of a site where I could order a pair of Lowa GTX's for a decent price? I've looked around but I can't find anything under $250.00 Canadian. If anyone knows the help would be greatly appreciated.

[BlackhawkCY]

i got the Asolo Powermatic 500 GV has anyone tested these?

[Pete031]

I had Asolos in Afghanistan, and then didn't hold up to well specifically the sole. Not that specific make, bu Asolo nonetheless.

[Seraphim]

Any of you guys got any experience with one of these two boots? Right now Im siding with the Striker DXTVent boot.

http://www.danner.com/product/uniform+boots/tactical/striker%26trade-+ii+dxtvent+uniform+boots.do

http://www.danner.com/product/uniform+boots/tactical/pursuit+xcr+uniform+boots+-+8%26quot-.do

[samurai-x]

hi could anyone tell me what they think about the magnum elite 900 wp breathable and how it performs in a military environment as im getting a pair thanks

[Laconian]

Any of you guys got any experience with one of these two boots? Right now Im siding with the Striker DXTVent boot.

http://www.danner.com/product/uniform+boots/tactical/striker%26trade-+ii+dxtvent+uniform+boots.do

http://www.danner.com/product/uniform+boots/tactical/pursuit+xcr+uniform+boots+-+8%26quot-.do

Don't know about the Pursuits, but a buddy was wearing the Strikers for teaching tactics (LE), range and general garrison training and they seemed to hold up pretty well. He said they were comfortable.

[Seraphim]

Just ordered the Striker boot.

[Soldat_Américain]

I've used Oakley's my entire time in the Army, considering it's only been about two years now it's not that long. My Wellco issues were crap tore my feet to shreds. I also have some of the worst feet in the Army. I have Oakley Gen I Temperate Weather Assault Boots, which the soles are stitchdown in at the toe. Six months later I bought the Hot Weather Assault boots Gen II, if I have the Generations right I don't know but there's a big difference between them. My second pair has all stitchdown construction and a vibram sole which is the difference. The temperate boots have been through a lot more field time than my hot weather ones and because of how wet it is in France they seem to be coming apart a little on the sides but no big deal as of yet.

I can run in these, which seems mainly what they were designed for, they're extremely light. Fun thing with them is even after being drenched with water they're fine to run in, they dry off relatively quickly when you wear them.

So I would reccomend these to anyone:
http://www.trgear.com/osc/eshop/images/HOT%20WEATHER%20ASSAULT%208%20LARGE.jpg
And don't buy the ones off oakley.com if you are military, you can sign up with their military contract company www.usstandardissue.com.

Also I like boots that are designed for running and Belleville put one out on the market in their 310s:
http://www.bellevilleshoe.com/resources/40.jpg

And also I'd like to try the Nike Special Field Boot when I get home, what I've read makes me real interested.
http://soldiersystems.net/blog1/wp-content/uploads/2008/06/nike_sfb.jpg

Also I'm rotating to Guyana with my battalion(currently on a military exchange at ESM Saint-Cyr) and I hope my boots hold up well, and I know nothing it waterproof after you go past the calf.

[KillaICM]

I've used Oakley's my entire time in the Army, considering it's only been about two years now it's not that long. My Wellco issues were crap tore my feet to shreds. I also have some of the worst feet in the Army. I have Oakley Gen I Temperate Weather Assault Boots, which the soles are stitchdown in at the toe. Six months later I bought the Hot Weather Assault boots Gen II, if I have the Generations right I don't know but there's a big difference between them. My second pair has all stitchdown construction and a vibram sole which is the difference. The temperate boots have been through a lot more field time than my hot weather ones and because of how wet it is in France they seem to be coming apart a little on the sides but no big deal as of yet.

I can run in these, which seems mainly what they were designed for, they're extremely light. Fun thing with them is even after being drenched with water they're fine to run in, they dry off relatively quickly when you wear them.

So I would reccomend these to anyone:

And don't buy the ones off oakley.com if you are military, you can sign up with their military contract company www.usstandardissue.com (http://www.usstandardissue.com).

Also I like boots that are designed for running and Belleville put one out on the market in their 310s:


And also I'd like to try the Nike Special Field Boot when I get home, what I've read makes me real interested.


Also I'm rotating to Guyana with my battalion(currently on a military exchange at ESM Saint-Cyr) and I hope my boots hold up well, and I know nothing it waterproof after you go past the calf.

Very nice review. I don't think they sell the hot weather boot on oakley.com though. Just those tactical wanna-b ones.

[Soldat_Américain]

Very nice review. I don't think they sell the hot weather boot on oakley.com though. Just those tactical wanna-b ones.
They don't, they sell the temperate boot that is made overseas, which a lot of guys have back home. If you go into the store you should be able to buy the the temperate ones they make in the US, but hot weather is a direct buy off of www.usstandardissue.com (http://www.usstandardissue.com), not trying to advertise but they're pretty good, if your job requires you to run and get wet they hold up, haven't had any problems with my feet. Funny I have some of the worst feet in the Army and when we were on exercise at good old Camp Roberts(Bob), CA, USA, it was about 130 degrees when we were in the field and my feet didn't blister until I was walking around in flip flops. Also, buy good socks, if you have good or bad feet spend the $16 a pair, it will be worth it in the end.

[James]

I mentioned it earlier but I think it's worth repeating - a lot of boots that are labeled "Tactical" and "Assault" don't hold up well in rugged, rocky environments like much of Afghansitan. A lot of them are really no more than beefed up athletic shoes. Everyone I've encountered with them has been happy, but their new boots generally need replacing after just a couple of months. Get something sturdy, with a good sole (like the Hanwags, Danners, or, my favorite, Vasque) and they'll last you through multiple deployments and at home.

[Seraphim]

Don't know about the Pursuits, but a buddy was wearing the Strikers for teaching tactics (LE), range and general garrison training and they seemed to hold up pretty well. He said they were comfortable.

Do you know what kind of polish he uses for his boots?

[Laconian]

Do you know what kind of polish he uses for his boots?

No idea, but Kiwi would be my best guess. He has since rotated out to the field.

[Vermillion]

I had some 8" waterproof Magnum Steal's, but there were some problems that I couldn't resolve so I bought a pair of Cat work boots.

[Britboy]

hi could anyone tell me what they think about the magnum elite 900 wp breathable and how it performs in a military environment as im getting a pair thanks

A mate of mine got the waterproof Magnum Elites, he liked them and they lasted a while for him (territorial infantry but also worn them for work outdoors).

I bought the classic Magnums for a FIBUA training season and whilst they were grand for a couple of short exercises they soon began to fall apart and FAIL.

My conclusion was that Magnum boots whilst comfy and lightweight are really made for pigs and ambulancemen and the sort, not really for military stuff. I know they make the Hot Weather Boot for the British Army and was thinking of getting a pair but frankly after my experience with the Classics, not so much!!

My mate did like the Elites a lot (and he's a guy who gets ankle support dramas since breaking/tearing something down there a few years ago) so maybe they are better than what I experienced, but his are coming apart now after ~ 3yrs of not-so-frequent use so maybe what James says about 'lastability' of these running-shoe-boots is right.

[Connaught Ranger]

My conclusion was that Magnum boots whilst comfy and lightweight are really made for pigs and ambulancemen and the sort, not really for military stuff.


Care to explain the "pigs" comment?

Connaught Ranger.

[AroundTheCorner]

you know what he means!!

[Britboy]

Care to explain the "pigs" comment?

Connaught Ranger.

Yep, I mean those guys who mince around town and the local Subway all dressed in black like the Waffen-SS, who seem to be adept enough at rigging up speed cameras, but not at stopping the mass criminality of Chav Nation, or other crims for that matter.

Oh, and their utterly pointless 'plastic plod' brethren, the PCSOs.

I read somewhere recently that when we had a police force they provided a service, whereas now we have a police service they impose force!

I'm sure there are some good cops out there, don't get me wrong, but my faith in the current state of affairs is not great. Your mileage may vary. I've certainly no experience of PSNI or the Garda.

[Connaught Ranger]

Yep, I mean those guys who mince around town and the local Subway all dressed in black like the Waffen-SS, who seem to be adept enough at rigging up speed cameras, but not at stopping the mass criminality of Chav Nation, or other crims for that matter.

Oh, and their utterly pointless 'plastic plod' brethren, the PCSOs.

I read somewhere recently that when we had a police force they provided a service, whereas now we have a police service they impose force!

I'm sure there are some good cops out there, don't get me wrong, but my faith in the current state of affairs is not great. Your mileage may vary. I've certainly no experience of PSNI or the Garda.

How childish, :roll:

I find your comment to be offensive to anybody who has served, is currently serving, in any police force, bearing in mind that we have members here who serve in the police force.

Connaught Ranger.

[Britboy]

Like I said, I'm not saying all cops are inherently bad. I can't say that anymore than I can contend that all squaddies have sun shining out of their hoops. People are a mixed bag, no?

I do accept the need for a police. That is not to say that I have a positive impression of the current institution and set-up we have in place. I wish we all did, frankly.

I think we are getting a bit offtopic here though.

[digrar]

You opened your pie hole, be prepared to reap what you sow. Two of our LEO mods will be with you shortly.

[Britboy]

Very well. If it is such a crime to be disamazed with the British Police.

[Laconian]

Like I said, I'm not saying all cops are inherently bad. I can't say that anymore than I can contend that all squaddies have sun shining out of their hoops. People are a mixed bag, no?

I do accept the need for a police. That is not to say that I have a positive impression of the current institution and set-up we have in place. I wish we all did, frankly.

I think we are getting a bit offtopic here though.

Your comment calling all cops pigs started it. I'm glad you see a need for police, that makes me feel so much better about my choice of profession. You have a problem your local institution, then get off your butt and get involved - attend meetings, volunteer or write letters - don't throw insults out in an internet forum on a topic where they weren't called for. This a boot thread for Pete's sake.

Your insult wasn't called for in this thread. I've been to too many cop funerals, sent Mass cards to too many more, seen too many of the sacrifices...

I suggest you apologize, quickly.

[Britboy]

Yes, a boot thread, where I offered an opinion on boots that seemed designed for police. If there hadn't been further questions directed towards me, I'd have felt no need to elaborate.

I certainly do not think that all police are worthless or corrupt. I am, as I have said earlier, simply disamazed with the set-up we seem to have in UK at the moment. I know cops who are definitely disamazed with it! That said, it is preferable to some other set-ups, definitely.

I'm sorry to hear of the injury and death of your colleagues and mates. It must be a risky and unpleasant job having to spend such an amount of time with the dregs of society. Anything that has resulted in the death of a good, honest, can-do and altruistic young person, such as the colleagues you have mentioned, is a tragedy. But I cannot comprehend that their sacrifice, however noble, makes the institution of the police and their policies, in another country, somehow above reproach.

I've got to say that quashing dissent about any subject on the grounds of an individual not having done that job is disingenious - otherwise there'd be noone allowed to talk about policy or performance except the people doing the job themselves, and what sort of groupthink might that produce?

When it comes to getting off my butt, I chose to volunteer in another capacity, as a territorial. What galls me is incidents such as http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1090655/Arrest--assault-Judges-disgust-soldier-held-hit-times-POLICE.html which do leave a sour taste. Compared to getting involved in that institution, the Armed Forces role of dealing with external threats to the state and relative depoliticisation seem far more attractive.

I don't expect others to neccessarily share my point of view - it is simply my point of view, which I advanced when questioned on.

[Soldat_Américain]

Not to put like napalm on this fire or anything but the word cops derived from coppers was a slang term meant disrespect at one time.

On a completely different note, that's directly related to the thread anyone can now purchase Nike's Special Field Boot on Nike's website, just found out yesterday that it's being released for everyone. Small note they have all sizes above 9 except for 12 and 14, if you have a small foot like me you will not be able to purchase them from non military website.

[Hollis]

Yep, I mean those guys who mince around town and the local Subway all dressed in black like the Waffen-SS, who seem to be adept enough at rigging up speed cameras, but not at stopping the mass criminality of Chav Nation, or other crims for that matter.

Oh, and their utterly pointless 'plastic plod' brethren, the PCSOs.

I read somewhere recently that when we had a police force they provided a service, whereas now we have a police service they impose force!

I'm sure there are some good cops out there, don't get me wrong, but my faith in the current state of affairs is not great. Your mileage may vary. I've certainly no experience of PSNI or the Garda.


Not smart considering a number of the members and MODs here are either LEO or Ex-LEO.

[Hollis]

Not to put like napalm on this fire or anything but the word cops derived from coppers was a slang term meant disrespect at one time.

On a completely different note, that's directly related to the thread anyone can now purchase Nike's Special Field Boot on Nike's website, just found out yesterday that it's being released for everyone. Small note they have all sizes above 9 except for 12 and 14, if you have a small foot like me you will not be able to purchase them from non military website.


That is one of views, COP, also Chief of Police. When I went through the Acedemy, it was covered, I think there are a few more other views as the root of that term.

[Laconian]

This will be my last word on the subject: You can be as un-impressed and under-whelmed with your police all you want. You're a taxpayer that is your perogative. What I have a problem with, what I resent, and what won't be tolerated is you calling/referring to cops as pigs. It is disrespectful and has nothing to do with towing the party line.

This is a boot thread, so let's get back to boots, socks and reviews. Any more references to cop lore put in a new thread.

[Hammer27]

That is one of views, COP, also Chief of Police. When I went through the Acedemy, it was covered, I think there are a few more other views as the root of that term.

Or "Constable On Patrol"

[BlackhawkCY]

Asolo Powermatic 500 GV has anyone tested these?

[STEPAN1983]

I need your advice people...
On russian forum I found the guy who sell CRISPI OASI boots (with GORE-TEX) here is the photo:

http://s50.radikal.ru/i129/0903/42/ce74f48b98de.jpg (http://www.radikal.ru)

Will this boots last long (asphalt and european forests)? Is this strong enough like the US milspec standarts?

[Soldat_Américain]

I saw a sous-lieutenant today with black civillian version of the black Oakley six inch assault boots...I wanted to ask him why he thought he was special, because the French Army still uses Rangers unless you're in theatre and then they supply a hiker boot, but they will be issuing Meindl boots next year. And a sous-lieutenant in reality is still a Cadet btw.

[STEPAN1983]

Today I bought the CRISPI boots :) Nice... lightweight and comfortable like sneakers. The size is little bigger then mine but with thick trekking socks and lace-to-toe system they fit well. And I feel they breath much better then my other goretex boots (ECCO, full-leather) I think its because of use of nylon fabric.

[Movieman]

A little input, just purchased a pair of Bates Lites (AKA Bates Training Boot) and these things are the BEST issued boots I've ever owned. I've had Belleville both jungles (the worst) and steeltoes, Altama jungles, and Bates combats, and tried a pair of my friends Danners (which come in second). Lites feel like a running shoe and they break in really quickly, I've had mine since Friday and they feel fully broken in. Only thing that concerns me, I've been told by some that the souls wear down quickly because of how soft they are. My headmate had them for about 5 months and had to get new ones via 604 form because the souls were nearly gone.

[Maine Finn]

A bit of praise for Belleville's cold weather boots. I got a pair issued three years ago and they've been great. I used them for everything, from hiking to being out in the snow to working the ER floor, even just tramping around town. Pretty much beat the crap out of them the last year or so. Finally had to replace them after a hole got worn through the suede. Great boots all around.

I picked up a pair of Wellco's to replace them and thus far am not disappointed. They certainly look a lot cleaner than my old pair. :-P

[James]

A little input, just purchased a pair of Bates Lites (AKA Bates Training Boot) and these things are the BEST issued boots I've ever owned. I've had Belleville both jungles (the worst) and steeltoes, Altama jungles, and Bates combats, and tried a pair of my friends Danners (which come in second). Lites feel like a running shoe and they break in really quickly, I've had mine since Friday and they feel fully broken in. Only thing that concerns me, I've been told by some that the souls wear down quickly because of how soft they are. My headmate had them for about 5 months and had to get new ones via 604 form because the souls were nearly gone.

Those boots should be fine as long as you spend most of our time on pavement or concrete, but my experience with most boots that feel like running shoes is that they don't last long in rough terrain.

[tactical73]

finally they are ready Task Force Zephyr Mid cut

http://i240.photobucket.com/albums/ff193/tactical73/ZephyrMidTF.jpg

http://i240.photobucket.com/albums/ff193/tactical73/ZephyrMidTF2.jpg


is available in Gore-tex black and desert ,not in gore-tex only desert,for the higt cut it will be available between little time

[STEPAN1983]

Using narrow webbing instead of eyelets and loops for laces hardware is not a good idea. Not reliable sometimes...

[Roy Batty]

Eyelets are no guarantee either. a couple of us had 5.11 boots who's eyelets ripped out in under a month in Afghanistan.

[Dispatcher]

5.11 sux.

My HRT´s didnt last me a year.

[SMGLee]

Started to run the OTB boots, very comfortable, breath well and it has good ankle support..

http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/sh/huge/_32Y1960.jpg

http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/sh/huge/_32Y1971.jpg

http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/sh/huge/_32Y1970.jpg

https://www.otbboots.com/main.html

[STEPAN1983]

5.11 is a chinese made commercial halfcivilian crap. I am talking about REAL boots and metal hardware.

[Roy Batty]

5.11 has metal eyelets and they are a favorite of some Government boys. We also wrecked Converse tactical boots and at least 1 pair of Oakley boots. All in 1-2 months per pair. The only boots (besides issued Altamas) that I found that held up well to actual operations were the Meindl Desert Foxes.

[breki]

I bought some 5.11 gloves and they were complete crap, fell apart in no time. They just make crap, is that it?

[Roy Batty]

Pretty much. I bought a set of Nomex gloves fromthem for deployment ($70) and the fingers wore down in a few weeks.

[Soldat_Américain]

Pretty much. I bought a set of Nomex gloves fromthem for deployment ($70) and the fingers wore down in a few weeks.
My muscle mapping shirts from 5.11 are legit, better than my underarmor compression.

[breki]

My muscle mapping shirts from 5.11 are legit, better than my underarmor compression.

Muscle mapping shirts?

[Soldat_Américain]

the High speed meaning of compression

[breki]

the High speed meaning of compression

So, Its some next-to-skin long underwear you're talking about?

By the way, es-tu Québecois? What is the french thing about?

p-)

[Seraphim]

5.11 has metal eyelets and they are a favorite of some Government boys. We also wrecked Converse tactical boots and at least 1 pair of Oakley boots. All in 1-2 months per pair. The only boots (besides issued Altamas) that I found that held up well to actual operations were the Meindl Desert Foxes.

Did any of you guys have the Danner Desert Acadias?

[KillaICM]

finally they are ready Task Force Zephyr Mid cut

http://i240.photobucket.com/albums/ff193/tactical73/ZephyrMidTF.jpg

http://i240.photobucket.com/albums/ff193/tactical73/ZephyrMidTF2.jpg


is available in Gore-tex black and desert ,not in gore-tex only desert,for the higt cut it will be available between little time

Nice, tell us how they are when you get a chance. :)

[Soldat_Américain]

So, Its some next-to-skin long underwear you're talking about?

By the way, es-tu Québecois? What is the french thing about?

p-)

No it's a short sleeve compression shirt for hot weather, and it's Muscle Mapping according to 5.11. Je ne suis pas Québecois. I am an American and a Soldier in the US Army and I'm in France currently and I wanted a "High Speed" username.

[tactical73]

Nice, tell us how they are when you get a chance. :)
is ready to ship ;-)

[Soldat_Américain]

As far as boots that feel like tennis shoes wearing out, most standard boots don't hold up well in the mountains or so the Army says in this article


•Mountain combat boots. Commanders in Afghanistan have made at least five requests for tougher boots, Coppola said. The standard combat boot wears out quickly in the mountains and ankle sprains have become more common, he said.
The Army plans to spend about $10 million to buy 62,000 pairs of Danner mountain hiking boots to outfit each soldier going to Afghanistan, Coppola said. They provide better ankle support and have tougher soles than the standard combat boot.http://www.usatoday.com/news/military/2009-03-30-gear_N.htm

[DE_Six]

Does anyone know of a place to get Meindl Desert Fox (the new brit issue desert boot) in Canada, or that ships over here?

Cheers

[KillaICM]

As far as boots that feel like tennis shoes wearing out, most standard boots don't hold up well in the mountains or so the Army says in this article
http://www.usatoday.com/news/military/2009-03-30-gear_N.htm

Danner... interesting.

[Roy Batty]

Does anyone know of a place to get Meindl Desert Fox (the new brit issue desert boot) in Canada, or that ships over here?

Cheers

They are tough to get here. Most guys buy them at the NAFI in KAF.

[BlackhawkCY]

Does anyone know of a place to get Meindl Desert Fox (the new brit issue desert boot) in Canada, or that ships over here?

Cheers

ebay is a good place to start....

[taifunk]

I'm looking for a black, hot weather boot which is gore-tex or at least drys quick. Vibram sole is also a must-have. Price range sohuld be from 100-150$. So far Altama® 8" EXOSpeed II Boot (http://www.uscav.com/Productinfo.aspx?productID=18004&TabID=1&CatID=375) , OTB 8" Ferdelance Boot (http://www.uscav.com/Productinfo.aspx?productID=17566&TabID=1&CatID=375), Wellco 9" Hot Weather Signature Boot (http://www.uscav.com/Productinfo.aspx?productID=18128&TabID=1&CatID=375) has got mu eye. I basically chose from UScav website Boots> Hot weather and looked for some black ones. But I hope you can help me pick out the best ones and maybe even point me to some better webshop, preferrably europe based.
Mostly I will use them in forested enviroment in Estonia during hot and sometimes very rainy summers.

[ranger53100]

Hi guys, any recommendation for a pair of good rainforest jungle usage boots?

thanks in advance.

[Hippo]

http://www.movieprop.com/tvandmovie/reviews/fallingdownarmynavy.jpg

now these are vietnam jungle boots

cost you half as much, last you twice as long AND GREAT FOR STOMPING QUEERS!

[DE_Six]

They are tough to get here. Most guys buy them at the NAFI in KAF.


ebay is a good place to start....

Cheers for the replies, guys!

For anyone interested, I found a dealer, AJ Brooks out of BC. They have govt pricing and shipping is not too steep. They have a website and the customer service has been helpful with the sizing.

[James]

Hi guys, any recommendation for a pair of good rainforest jungle usage boots?

thanks in advance.

Old school green jungle boots.