Boots Boots Boots... 62 boot threads in one

[Polygon]

http://www.movieprop.com/tvandmovie/reviews/fallingdownarmynavy.jpg

now these are vietnam jungle boots

cost you half as much, last you twice as long AND GREAT FOR STOMPING QUEERS!

Awesome movie.

[Seraphim]

Just got these the other day. Man are they above and beyond my other boots. Only problem so far is they are about half a size too big. I used the measuring guide that you print off but it was off at least half a size. But considering these are summer boots, they might fit fine if they were winter boots worn with thicker socks.

http://www.danner.com/product/uniform+boots/tactical/striker%26trade-+ii+dxtvent+uniform+boots.do

[KillaICM]

Just got these the other day. Man are they above and beyond my other boots. Only problem so far is they are about half a size too big. I used the measuring guide that you print off but it was off at least half a size. But considering these are summer boots, they might fit fine if they were winter boots worn with thicker socks.

http://www.danner.com/product/uniform+boots/tactical/striker%26trade-+ii+dxtvent+uniform+boots.do

Why not just ship them back for a smaller size then?

[Seraphim]

Too much hassle.

[scrybe]

Too much hassle? Those are Danners, they will last for years. Get 'em right.

[crazyman]

I got myself a pair of merrell sawtooths a week ago, and took them right out of the box on a 7 mile hike through a wildlife preserve near ft sill, 50 lb ruck. Wow are they great, without any real breakineg in yet. They are only getting better as I go longer and heavier

[RGRBOX]

Has any of the BTDT on here tried out the new Bates Tora Bore Mountain boots yet??

If so any comments..

[sup_tech]

Old school green jungle boots.
Are there any non-military style alternatives to that? I was also told to go with Altama boots for my week-long hike in the jungle. I gathered that I need something light, with good foot protection and also breathable so in case water gets in the boots can dry out quickly. I am not sure about ankle support - is it necessary? If not I'd rather buy something like this:

http://s50.radikal.ru/i130/0904/cc/b81ea74639dd.jpg

[BlackhawkCY]

Are there any non-military style alternatives to that? I was also told to go with Altama boots for my week-long hike in the jungle. I gathered that I need something light, with good foot protection and also breathable so in case water gets in the boots can dry out quickly. I am not sure about ankle support - is it necessary? If not I'd rather buy something like this:

http://s50.radikal.ru/i130/0904/cc/b81ea74639dd.jpg

Not that breathable since mud/ pieces of wood and lower vegetation will probably end up in you foot. and yes ankle support is a must on all hikes so you do not sprain your ankle

[BlackhawkCY]

https://www.otbboots.com/main.html is the closest i can think of (non Militray). Seen them up close seem of good built quality but have not tested them

here is a review a came up with google:
http://www.militarymorons.com/equipment/footwear2.html#otb

[James]

I got myself a pair of merrell sawtooths a week ago, and took them right out of the box on a 7 mile hike through a wildlife preserve near ft sill, 50 lb ruck. Wow are they great, without any real breakineg in yet. They are only getting better as I go longer and heavier

I had a pair of those. I found them to be very comfortable but overly hot in warm weather.

[sup_tech]

Not that breathable since mud/ pieces of wod and lower vegetation will probably end up in you foot. and yes ankle support is a must on all hikes so you do not sprain your ankle

Thanks for the info and the links.

[LaoSexMachine]

Old school green jungle boots.


Word .

[HORT/1]

Hey all,

LEO here. Looking for a pair of boots which have durability but above anything else are lightweight (easy to run in) and are all round decent boot.

I've been looking at the following:

http://www.polimil.co.uk/acatalog/Oakley_S_I_8__Assault_Boots_Black__64_50.html

http://www.polimil.co.uk/acatalog/Danner_-_Striker_II_Boot__.html

Open to suggestions! During my shifts I'm normally in boots for 12 hours or so, with that said I'm open to spending any amount of cash as long as it keeps my feet happy.

[California Joe]

I just bought some Clark's desert boots with the gum sole.

David Stirling, word.

[BlackhawkCY]

Hey all,

LEO here. Looking for a pair of boots which have durability but above anything else are lightweight (easy to run in) and are all round decent boot.

I've been looking at the following:

http://www.polimil.co.uk/acatalog/Oakley_S_I_8__Assault_Boots_Black__64_50.html

http://www.polimil.co.uk/acatalog/Danner_-_Striker_II_Boot__.html

Open to suggestions! During my shifts I'm normally in boots for 12 hours or so, with that said I'm open to spending any amount of cash as long as it keeps my feet happy.

have a look at these:
http://www.batesfootwear.com/US/Product/NP/Military/M-9-Desert-Assault.aspx

comfort levels of boots also vary on location(rocks, sand, city) temperature and humidity, height 6 to 9 inch along with the anatomy of your foot

[Laconian]

I just bought some Clark's desert boots with the gum sole.

David Stirling, word.

They are on my "need to buy" list. Always were the coolest.

[flanker7]

I've got some pairs of 5.11 socks. I used them around camp and they seem to be very comfortable.
Has anyone got any experience with them in harder conditions, like in marches with a bergen or field exercises?

[BlackhawkCY]

I've got some pairs of 5.11 socks. I used them around camp and they seem to be very comfortable.
Has anyone got any experience with them in harder conditions, like in marches with a bergen or field exercises?

Used them in our 42km march with a pair of bates boots. Dried quickly, and had a good grip on my foot thus avoided blisters. I have also tried the blackhawk socks but the 5.11 one seemed more fit for expeditions. Blackhawk socks are comfortable but do not give you that feeling of sport performance.... the only socks I found as good as the 5.11 were bridgedale.

[James]

I just bought some Clark's desert boots with the gum sole.

David Stirling, word.

Hell yeah! I've got a pair of those at home.

[SandBagger]

love those things youd almost get away with wearing them as converse shoes, have to stop drinking so i can buy a pair

[Ghostryder]

Holy Necropost, Batman!

[James]

love those things youd almost get away with wearing them as converse shoes, have to stop drinking so i can buy a pair

That's awesome. Maybe you should stop drinking so you can see how old a thread is before you respond.

[Soldat_Américain]

I defitinitely needed some of those OTB Jungle boots when I was in Guyana, my Oakley SI Hot Weather Assault boots were wet the entire time, my feet died, but I survived. Oh and I got stuck a couple of times and tore some holes in them, which is gonna rape my checkbook if/when they die.

[digrar]

How did this miss the great boot thread merging of 2008?
Merged.

[Ghostryder]

Drunkosaurus rex:

this civilian appreciates Montrail Torre's...Not as sexy as Asolos or Hanwags but **** it, i haven't had a blister so far....

[triath]

Can anyone do a boot ID for the guy on the right [and center]?
http://img257.imageshack.us/img257/4949/610xbrq.jpg

[SandBagger]

Can anyone do a boot ID for the guy on the right [and center]?
http://img257.imageshack.us/img257/4949/610xbrq.jpg
as far as i now these look up french canvas boots

[Soldat_Américain]

as far as i now these look up french canvas boots
And he has them laced commando style...I'm being serious

[James]

I wonder if he's doing anything else commando style... hehe.

[SandBagger]

And he has them laced commando style...I'm being serious
how do they lace them commando style?

[Ghostryder]

how do they lace them commando style?

With your hands, while not wearing underwear

[SandBagger]

With your hands, while not wearing underwear

i didnt know your mom was a commando?

[Soldat_Américain]

how do they lace them commando style?
Not exactly sure how to explain it, look at them, they aren't like regular over under. There's two normal ways to lace Rangers and then there's commando...the frenchies tried to get me to lace my deserts commando style when we were in Guyana and I was like "you're kidding right? that's ****ing impossible."

[Ghostryder]

i didnt know your mom was a commando?

hmm...touché

[SandBagger]

i didnt know your mom was a commando?
here you might need this

[SandBagger]

Not exactly sure how to explain it, look at them, they aren't like regular over under. There's two normal ways to lace Rangers and then there's commando...the frenchies tried to get me to lace my deserts commando style when we were in Guyana and I was like "you're kidding right? that's ****ing impossible."
cheers but does it do anything?

[Ghostryder]

here you might need this

oh, now you've gone a done it

[Soldat_Américain]

cheers but does it do anything?
Pretty sure it doesn't, but at least the ones I'm with think it does.

[BlackhawkCY]

here is a link explainig how commando lacing is used with pros and cons http://www.fieggen.com/shoelace/armylacing.htm

although the first line of lace should be ontop not like his where it is below so the boot lace can be cut with a knife easier
http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=73927&stc=1&d=1241494209
(pic taken from above website)

[Soldat_Américain]

gotta try that ladder lacing idea...the things you can find on the internet.

[wotsnext]

Any thoughts on Altberg boots?
I'm not keen, just put mine on ebay :-(

[GETSOME]

Can water and soap be used on the non leather type boots,like Magnums,Converse ,Nike desert boot,etc?
Many thanks.p-)

[Soldat_Américain]

Can water and soap be used on the non leather type boots,like Magnums,Converse ,Nike desert boot,etc?
Many thanks.p-)
Get a good nozzle on your hoze and pressure wash...you could probably throw the Nikes into the washing machine...same with converse...don't know about Magnums.

[GETSOME]

Get a good nozzle on your hoze and pressure wash...you could probably throw the Nikes into the washing machine...same with converse...don't know about Magnums.
Thanks for that,will try pressure hose on the boots when i was the car:)

[Soldat_Américain]

Do you have the Nike's btw, I'm thinking of getting a pair, I wash my boots in the shower with that nozzle, not the same as a hose.:) I tend to go a lot of muddy places where I'm at right now.

[BlackhawkCY]

use a mild brush and water to scrape the mud, debris ,etc from the boots along with runnig water. Remove the laces and iner soles and let the boots dry in a shade. Do not put the in the sun as this will deteriorate their build quality. If you want them to dry as soon as possible wear them arorund with thick socks. the socks will drain most of the water, once they are saoked in water change them and continue using them. Repeate untill the boot feels dry approximately 4 or 5 pairs.

[GETSOME]

Do you have the Nike's btw, I'm thinking of getting a pair, I wash my boots in the shower with that nozzle, not the same as a hose.:) I tend to go a lot of muddy places where I'm at right now.
Have a pair of converse,thanks guys for the cleaning tips.p-)

[CQB_Operator]

I've just received my Lowa Desert Elite last Wednesday.
I've walked each day a dozen of clicks (hilly terrain) with them, no blisters and my feet stayed dry during all the marches.
The outer sole is pretty rigid but that's better for harsh terrain, very supportive boots and lots of ankle support.
I normally wear a 10US but with Lowa's I use to add 1/2size to be comfortable.
I really dig these oneswoot
here's a couple of pics

http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j31/p90fred/Lowa-Desert-Elite-001.gif
http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j31/p90fred/Lowa-Desert-Elite-002.gif
http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j31/p90fred/Lowa-Desert-Elite-003.gif
http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j31/p90fred/Lowa-Desert-Elite-004.gif

[tactical73]

best choice ;-)

[Britboy]

Only thing with those Lowas is it looks like the front mesh panel is low down and will wear out after awhile?

But hey if it's on issue and free one-for-one, it's all good :)

[Aldo Penniconi]

Are these the newer ADF issue variation of the Terra GP Boots?

http://img26.imageshack.us/img26/3821/52a41.jpg

[Jedigman]

I've worn these Boots (YDS LE 320) and they are awesome, i wont go out into wilderness without them !

http://img195.imageshack.us/img195/2528/le320.jpg
http://img195.imageshack.us/my.php?image=le320.jpg

[Soldat_Américain]

Saw this today just thought I'd share, I haven't tried Belleville's Army 310, but it's a running boot, which is something I like with my boots and this seems to be continuing along that line, however to me it looks like they're for a lighter touch.

Tactical Research Footwear from Belleville

Belleville is poised to launch the new Tactical Research brand. Belleville is the oldest and largest supplier of military specification boots in the US having supplied boots since WWI. They were also instrumental in bringing the Infantry Combat Boot to the market almost 15 years ago. That boot, with slight improvements over the years as evolved into the Belleville 390 and is on the feet of hundreds of thousands of America’s Warriors. Priding themselves on their Made in the USA lineup of boots, they began to consider what the nest step was. Certain manufacturing techniques are currently unavailable in the US and the costs associated with domestic manufacture are relatively high. In order to provide lower price for individual sales and to introduce new construction techniques Belleville launched the Tactical Research line. They spent the last year refining designs and working with America’s most elite military units to develop a unique product line. Belleville also wanted to ensure that the quality of the product would remain strong and have worked diligently to enforce strict quality assurance standards. The first boot to be released is the Kiowa. It is a high top with an assault boot feel. While the top doesn’t look very high it is actually high enough (8″) to meet AR 670-1 standards. Interestingly, when Belleville took the boot to the most recent Sergeant Major Academy conference at Fort Bliss, Texas, the attendees overwhelmingly showed interest in the Kiowa over other issue styles. I think that is about as close as an endorsement as you are going to get. The uppers are a combination of suede and Cordura atop a low overlasted sole. The final piece to this unfolding story is the TR-1 High Performance Insole. There will be a full article on this product next week but it is important to say that Belleville didn’t skimp on the insole. Initially the Kiowa will be available in Sage, Tan, and Black but keep your eyes peeled for a surprise soon. While I know that most of our readers have a “Belleville Size”, order the new Tactical research line true to your normal boot size. The Kiowa will be available for orders beginning Monday, 15 June from www.bellevilleshoe.com (http://www.bellevilleshoe.com/stylestr.php)
http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/picture.php?albumid=987&pictureid=13810
http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/picture.php?albumid=987&pictureid=13811
http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/picture.php?albumid=987&pictureid=13812
http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/picture.php?albumid=987&pictureid=13813

The sage ones look like they'd be cool to just have as a kickaround shoe. Also anyone know how long I'll have to wait for Nike's Special Field Boot if I'm a size 8.5?

[STEPAN1983]

what is the point of having leather so close to the ground? To tear it more easily? This outsole sucks, it was inspired by fashion crap.

By the way, militarymorons made a positive review of lowa elite desert

[James]

what is the point of having leather so close to the ground? To tear it more easily? This outsole sucks, it was inspired by fashion crap.

By the way, militarymorons made a positive review of lowa elite desert

If you're speaking about the post above yours, I think it's reasonable to assume that it was meant to be used in an urban environment.

[STEPAN1983]

still it looks too gay. There is no any reason (for tactical purpose) to make such outsoles. Leather part must be covered with outsole, not vice versa. They made it very easy to tear or get wet.

[Soldat_Américain]

still it looks too gay. There is no any reason (for tactical purpose) to make such outsoles. Leather part must be covered with outsole, not vice versa. They made it very easy to tear or get wet.
If it's really going to get wet, it's gonna get wet, I've only torn holes into boots when I got stuck in between some rucks in the mud(there also ended up being a hole in my sock too). Belleville makes a good boot, they wouldn't spend the money to come up with the concept if it wasn't something they could market for as an improvement to their already good boots.

[Manstein]

Could anyone id these boots, please. I know they have been issued to Iraqi police/military quite a bit. Does anyone have any experience with them?


http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e8/ak47nut/AKPHOTOS15/IRAQ5.jpg

[Soldat_Américain]

trés simple, Marine hot weather boots...they also get issued regular tan boots, first I've heard them being issued Marine boots

[TDO]

I saw that these were mentioned in passing, but does anyone have any feedback on the OTB Ferdelance and/or OTB boots in general. I tried on a pair of SAR boots, but did not find them to be all that comfortable.

[Soldat_Américain]

I saw that these were mentioned in passing, but does anyone have any feedback on the OTB Ferdelance and/or OTB boots in general. I tried on a pair of SAR boots, but did not find them to be all that comfortable.
Go on ebay and get some altamas or belleville's for fifty bucks...for what you do you don't need to spend a gagillion dollas

[TDO]

Go on ebay and get some altamas or belleville's for fifty bucks...for what you do you don't need to spend a gagillion dollas

Aside from range work, I will be using them for backpacking and hiking as well.

[Soldat_Américain]

Well in my experience with Utah you've got cold and hot most of the year, get some Altama deserts and some Belleville temperates with goretex, if not a Danner with 400g thinsulate.

[TDO]

Well in my experience with Utah you've got cold and hot most of the year, get some Altama deserts and some Belleville temperates with goretex, if not a Danner with 400g thinsulate.

Thanks for the input. Winters here are a whole other ball game. These are strictly for Spring/Summer/Fall weather.

[Soldat_Américain]

then the regular Altama Deserts...they've pretty much been going strong since Desert Storm:http://www.altama.com/Tp1/item_detail.aspx?ItemCode=4156

And depending on how cold it gets during the early spring and fall you might want a temperate boot:
http://www.bellevilleshoe.com/stylesall.php?categ=2
(http://www.bellevilleshoe.com/stylesall.php?categ=2)

[TangoAlpha777]

those commando style way to lace up your boots really do work nicely.

before my boots were just laced the regular way i guess. crisscrossed?

but now i can get into the kneeling position with my weapon with ease.

but its not as tight thought i guess casue the way the laces go. but much more comfortable.

p-)

[Manstein]

trés simple, Marine hot weather boots...they also get issued regular tan boots, first I've heard them being issued Marine boots

Thanks a lot.

[click]

Thanks for the input. Winters here are a whole other ball game. These are strictly for Spring/Summer/Fall weather.

TDO, dont you ever stop? This is starting to sound like a broken record. Think on your own for once and make a freakin' decision! Use Google and find some good boots or go with what we suggest or whatever wlse you may fancy. Otherwise, stop asking.

[TDO]

TDO, dont you ever stop? This is starting to sound like a broken record. Think on your own for once and make a freakin' decision! Use Google and find some good boots or go with what we suggest or whatever wlse you may fancy. Otherwise, stop asking.

Just to give you something to bitch about my 18 year old friend.

[Kap]

Like you're any better. Mr 30 year old. ;)

[TDO]

Like you're any better. Mr 30 year old. ;)

At least I am not 3.

[Soldat_Américain]

At least I am not 3.
I'd be careful if I were you...don't want to piss of Army Docs.

[Kap]

At least I am not 3.

What an amazing comeback. I'd be the most intelligent 3 year old on the planet! rofl

[digrar]

Are you in Mensa Kap? p-)




Three-year-old passes Mensa test




A three-year-old has become the youngest member of the high IQ group Mensa after taking a series of tests run by psychologists.

Rest of article (http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/england/west_yorkshire/4264941.stm)

[TDO]

What an amazing comeback. I'd be the most intelligent 3 year old on the planet! rofl

You mean you are really not 3? Thanks for clearing that up, you really had me there. ;)

[click]

Just to give you something to bitch about my 18 year old friend.

Yeah, you're one to make fun of how old I am.

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y32/beegaler/Funnies/untitled.jpg

[gilgoul]

then the regular Altama Deserts...they've pretty much been going strong since Desert Storm:http://www.altama.com/Tp1/item_detail.aspx?ItemCode=4156

And depending on how cold it gets during the early spring and fall you might want a temperate boot:
http://www.bellevilleshoe.com/stylesall.php?categ=2
(http://www.bellevilleshoe.com/stylesall.php?categ=2)

I concur,
I use altama's at work for the summer, they are really comfy.
winter I use asolo's, great boots, and a good replacement for my matterhorn
Just don't buy salomons, they suck

[Paveway]

Anyone knows where I can get the classic Adidas GSG boots? Could only find the 2.0 Version now...

Thanks!

[cagey veteran]

As always I am a big fan of danners...easy to find and good pricing.
Danner Acadias i love so much I have had them re-soled. I am now looking for a more "discrete boot" and have gone to these...sturdy and comfortable...good crossover with civy clothes, ...no long marches yet but i have faith they will be good!
http://www.danner.com/category/vandal.do

I have the short boots -no steel toe.

[dwight]

I´m looking for some sort of jungle boots, good for hot and wet imvoirements.
the mendil boots are nice for the heath but not for the wet part, and my leather boots are nice in the winter but too damn hot in the summer.
anybody who hase a sugestion?

[pinecone]

Does anyone recognize this boot? Appearing in one of the mil pic daily selection earlier on a Marine.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v414/h18w777/090616-M-1226J-002.jpg (http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/%5BIMG%5Dhttp://img.photobucket.com/albums/v414/h18w777/090616-M-1226J-002.jpg%5B/IMG%5D)

[dwight]

I think there issue marine corps boots, you can see the marine corps emblem on the back side

[pinecone]

I think there issue marine corps boots, you can see the marine corps emblem on the back side

Yeah, I was looking for information about who the maker of the boot is.

[nimer bortuqaal]

Does anyone recognize this boot? Appearing in one of the mil pic daily selection earlier on a Marine.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v414/h18w777/090616-M-1226J-002.jpg (http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/%5BIMG%5Dhttp://img.photobucket.com/albums/v414/h18w777/090616-M-1226J-002.jpg%5B/IMG%5D)

Danner Mountain, Cold Weather. USMC issued to SOF units.

[tango44]

Anyone knows where I can get the classic Adidas GSG boots? Could only find the 2.0 Version now...

Thanks!


Botac still have some:

http://www.botachtactical.com/adgstacboot.html

[Soldat_Américain]

Does anyone recognize this boot? Appearing in one of the mil pic daily selection earlier on a Marine.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v414/h18w777/090616-M-1226J-002.jpg (http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/%5BIMG%5Dhttp://img.photobucket.com/albums/v414/h18w777/090616-M-1226J-002.jpg%5B/IMG%5D)
I bought a pair of these thinking I would use them when I went to Mtn Warfare in the Alps...I only wore them in garrison...kind of a bad investment right now, but it could turn into a good deal of having bought them...since Danner doesn't list them on the online catalog anymore.

[dwight]

Here are my boots.
mobile phone pics, poor quality.

http://i568.photobucket.com/albums/ss129/Dwight2741994/Photo-0018.jpg


http://i568.photobucket.com/albums/ss129/Dwight2741994/Photo-0112.jpg

http://i568.photobucket.com/albums/ss129/Dwight2741994/Photo-009.jpg

My leahter boots, pretty old but I still love 'em.

http://i568.photobucket.com/albums/ss129/Dwight2741994/Photo-0111.jpg

http://i568.photobucket.com/albums/ss129/Dwight2741994/Photo-0010.jpg

My meindle boots, realy like them good for long distance walks and good grip in the mountains.

[Paveway]

Botac still have some:

http://www.botachtactical.com/adgstacboot.html
Yea I chanced upon that too but they don't have a 9 sadly...

[elvenas]

My GSG9 boots,really comfortable!

http://i574.photobucket.com/albums/ss190/elvenaseal/DSCN4534.jpg
http://i574.photobucket.com/albums/ss190/elvenaseal/DSCN4535.jpg
http://i574.photobucket.com/albums/ss190/elvenaseal/DSCN4536.jpg
http://i574.photobucket.com/albums/ss190/elvenaseal/DSCN4537.jpg

[SandBagger]

My GSG9 boots,really comfortable!




http://i574.photobucket.com/albums/ss190/elvenaseal/DSCN4537.jpg


i was in a outdoors shop and the guy said the irish army guys always buy them and wearing them out in a couple of months because they dont realise that theyre an urban boot.

[Soldat_Américain]

perfect boot for TDO produced by Belleville on the Tactical Research line:
http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/picture.php?albumid=987&pictureid=14173

[Laconian]

Those soles on the GSG9 boots are okay on dry pavement, but on wet concrete, pavement, they are slick. I busted my a$$ on them twice, once running up into a stack, once on a range, and 86-ed them for Rocky 911s with the flat sole.

[STEPAN1983]

They say that modern GSG9 boots are made of artifitial leather, is it true or there are too many fakes on the market ?

[JDBL14]

I would like to add an endorsement for the Blackhawk Warrior Wear boots. I had bought the Desert Op boots in Coyote(they also have these in desert tan), and man they are sweet. They were so nice I recently picked up a set of the black ones that are just like them only waterproof. You can get either kind for about 100$ if you look around. I got mine from LAPoliceGear.com and they even gave me a free pair of 5.11 socks too! The socks are nice, but too expensive to buy on their own. Speaking of socks about 2 years ago I bought some Gold Toe boot socks at Sams Club, and man they are the best socks I've ever owned. They are really thick, black with yellow toe stitching and I can't find the same ones anywhere now. I had got 2 packages of them 2 years ago and they are all like new still, but I'll still stock up if i findthe same ones anywhere else. Another pair of great boots I had were issued, black Belleville's that had a vibram insole, and goretex lining. They were pretty good for about 3 years, way better then the generic all leather pieces of crap I was originally issued.

[Seraphim]

Good to hear about the Blackhawk boots. Im thinking of picking up a tan one and another pair of boots once they have a sale.

[Royal]

My GSG9 boots,really comfortable!

http://i574.photobucket.com/albums/ss190/elvenaseal/DSCN4534.jpg

Wow - they've seen some serious use. Thanks for the insightful review :roll:

[Britboy]

Just got myself some Lowa Mountain GTXs. Haven't really put them to any test yet, but been wearing them around the place to break them in a bit. First impressions are that they are uber comfy and very supportive, quite 'bouncy' too and no sign of them being too hot even when walking and wearing all day with wool socks in the UK's current 'heatwave'. I tend to leave the top set of eyelet-hooks unlaced though as otherwise it can get a bit too supportive and rub a little - they should ease up when broken in though. I think they are not going to tear my heels up like the issue Assault Boots tend to, those things are for drill nights and when in TAC/camp only from now on, thank god.

I will post my further thoughts after I have gotten them out and about more (probably being beasted around Sennybridge) :p

[Rawhide]

Anybody here been using these boots? Found a pair for a pretty good price (maybe even too good?).

Good stuff or?

[digrar]

Try posting the pic again, this time use a host.

[Power_serj]

I bought these boots: (M-8 Combat Tactical Boot)

http://img268.imageshack.us/img268/5488/img0001xkg.jpg

http://img8.imageshack.us/img8/3651/img0002jwm.jpg

then I found out I was going to Afghanistan.

Any boot preferances for anyone who's been to Afghanistan?

[meatrabbit]

Just got myself some Lowa Mountain GTXs. Haven't really put them to any test yet, but been wearing them around the place to break them in a bit. First impressions are that they are uber comfy and very supportive, quite 'bouncy' too and no sign of them being too hot even when walking and wearing all day with wool socks in the UK's current 'heatwave'. I tend to leave the top set of eyelet-hooks unlaced though as otherwise it can get a bit too supportive and rub a little - they should ease up when broken in though. I think they are not going to tear my heels up like the issue Assault Boots tend to, those things are for drill nights and when in TAC/camp only from now on, thank god.

I will post my further thoughts after I have gotten them out and about more (probably being beasted around Sennybridge) :p

that is good thanks , I'm waiting for your update. I think about getting those as a second pair of private boots. I have Meindl's (Meindl Army Gore) - an absolutely awesome boot but I want to get a second pair (a different one) as a reserve and just for trying out.

[Britboy]

that is good thanks , I'm waiting for your update. I think about getting those as a second pair of private boots. I have Meindl's (Meindl Army Gore) - an absolutely awesome boot but I want to get a second pair (a different one) as a reserve and just for trying out.

Cool, you might have to wait til late Sept though - they should be getting a real test about then p-)

I've heard good things about Meindl - my dad has a grey nubuck pair of their civvy hiking boots, v nice - and apparently the Army contracted them to supply boots to lads deploying to Afghan.

There are various of those sorts of boots though - something you may also want to look into are Hanwags, there are quite a few guys in my Bn who reckon they are the mutts nuts.

[meatrabbit]

Cool, you might have to wait til late Sept though - they should be getting a real test about then p-)

I've heard good things about Meindl - my dad has a grey nubuck pair of their civvy hiking boots, v nice - and apparently the Army contracted them to supply boots to lads deploying to Afghan.

There are various of those sorts of boots though - something you may also want to look into are Hanwags, there are quite a few guys in my Bn who reckon they are the mutts nuts.

This is the first time I've heard of that trade. Looks interesting. Anyone has any experience?

[MaverickCowboy]

I bought these boots: (M-8 Combat Tactical Boot)

http://img268.imageshack.us/img268/5488/img0001xkg.jpg

http://img8.imageshack.us/img8/3651/img0002jwm.jpg

then I found out I was going to Afghanistan.

Any boot preferances for anyone who's been to Afghanistan?

what brand?

[Trenk]

just bought garmont sitka GTX, luxury...

[entheogen]

used blackhawk warrior wear out here. lasted me about 5 1/2 months. still have them, almost fell apart thu. really comfortable, soft and light. hardly spent any time braking them in. "walked" about 12 miles the first day, and only got light blisters.

[Carib]

Could some one provide me a link or list of US ARMY approved desert/hot weather boots. I've got my issued Altimas and another pair of Altimas at home. Im looking for something similar to the Belleville 550. Thanks in advance.

[wbhigy]

http://i211.photobucket.com/albums/bb197/wbhigy/2008121043097326.jpg
http://i211.photobucket.com/albums/bb197/wbhigy/P1010499.jpg

I think you guys maybe will be intrested in this boots
China PLA type 99 training and combat canvas boots
light,air permeable and dry fast,maybe a good choice for the ones who complain their boots too hot or too heavy.
p.s.:really very cheap,I bought it for only about five dollars in China

[dwight]

that aint boots, those are more like all star sneakers.

[wbhigy]

Oh,what about this ?
http://i211.photobucket.com/albums/bb197/wbhigy/123213213211321.jpg
and this
http://i211.photobucket.com/albums/bb197/wbhigy/1c3c99db.jpg

the canvas boot also have a lot of version,high and low

[Soldat_Américain]

I would call those high tops.

Carib...why not get the belleville 310s?

[dwight]

Oh,what about this ?

and this


the canvas boot also have a lot of version,high and low


Well I dont even think about wearing them.

[wbhigy]

Well I dont even think about wearing them.
well ,taste differ~;-)

[dwight]

well ,taste differ~;-)

indeed;-) maybe others like them

[wbhigy]

would some one tell me that why the french army and IDF are still using the canvas boot?
I don't know what are the PROs........

[Power_serj]

what brand?

They are Bates.

[Britboy]

Well you might all be thinking that those canvas/nylon sneaker 'boots' are crap, but the case is probably far from it.

I carry a pair of flip-flops in my bergen for when you are non-tac/downtime in a harbour area with wet boots or fecked up feet and you want to get your boots to dry and get some air to your feet. They are also good for river crossings, means your boots don't get wet.

Saw a pair of dark green canvas (Jungle Green?) and black-rubber Converse ankle-high trainer/boot things a while ago, was tempted to get them except for the price. If those nylon/canvas ones are cheaper and still pack down small and are lightweight like the pair of sandals in my bergen, I'd say worthwhile.

[Aldo Penniconi]

Mine Blast Boots:
http://wellco.tnwebhost.com/images/MINE_BOOT_COMBO_9584_1_.jpg

http://wellco.tnwebhost.com/images/84131-01-002%20TRIMMED_1.jpg
http://wellco.tnwebhost.com/images/BLK_PU_MINE_BOGGLER_9704_1_.jpg

http://www.wellco.com/blast_mitigation.html

[Britboy]

Feck me that must be like wearing old skool diving boots of lead!

Are they just for EOD/ATO types, or are they expecting infanteers to do all the dash-down-crawl with those on??

[ShotOver]

I bought these boots: (M-8 Combat Tactical Boot)

http://img268.imageshack.us/img268/5488/img0001xkg.jpg

http://img8.imageshack.us/img8/3651/img0002jwm.jpg

then I found out I was going to Afghanistan.

Any boot preferances for anyone who's been to Afghanistan?

I operated through winter and summer and can tell you the weather has a lot to do with which boot you wear.
I started my trip wearing Bates, they were really quick to wear out also got too thin when winter came around, but on the upside they were very quick to dry, so there was no putting on wet boots in the morning for a patrol.

I soon moved on to the Meindl Desert Fox (http://www.lansdaleltd.com/prod.php/prod/MDFOX/show/reviews) when the snow and rain came in, I really liked these boots, they are Royal Marine Commando and Dutch Army issue and we (Australian) bought a lot of them at the PX and they were used for most of the trip. But they too lived out there life towards the end of my tour, constant exposure to water and such a harsh enviroment lead to them becomming stiff and hardened which lead to blisters around my ankles of all places, so they had to go. Also they are too heavy and warm to use back in Australia.

Then my 3rd pair of boots for the tour I bought S.I Assault Boots (http://oakley.com/catalog/products/s-i-assault-boot-8-inch-wide) from Oakley, I used them for quite a limited amount of time and had some dramas with them, mainly to with their tread/grip, jumping across an aquaduct, the last thing you want is your boot to slip on the other side and you fall flat on your face, which is what happened to me numerous times with this boot, so I found them quite untrustworthy in that sense. On the plus side they were light, comfortable and dried quickly. The Oakley Tactical Six (http://oakley.com/catalog/products/tactical-six) only came out just as I was leaving country, it seemed to me and to some of the other lads who bought it and used it that it was a cross between the Meindl and the S.I Assault boot in terms of being light, warm, very good tread/grip, dried quite quickly and didn't require much work on breaking in.

Now, I am an Infantryman and was a gunner(LSW), so I had quite a heavy load to bear across Southern Afghanistan, where we operated from was very different depending on where you went, ranging from the city of Tarin Kowt through the rual Balluchi valley which was mainly mud and water-filled aquaducts, then up the sides of mountains in Chora valley. For anyone the whole country is going to lead to dramas with maintaining your footwear, what I found is you need to take 2 sets out with you, we operated from vehicles the entire time, so that was easy to stuff another set under your seat for when you get in to the vehicle hide and want to dry out your patrol boots.

So yeah, that is just my 0.02c from my experience, yours will probably differ, but I hope this helped.

[unthinking]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v303/ventnor/972MPCO03FEB08Iraq003.jpg

I've been wearing these Belleville 390 DES boots for quite a while now (~2.5 years, including a year-long deployment) and they are practically indestructible. I've only had to replace the laces with 550 cord.

You can get them for about $100-$120 from a variety of online stores.

[Vintz]

i was in a outdoors shop and the guy said the irish army guys always buy them and wearing them out in a couple of months because they dont realise that theyre an urban boot.



Have worn the GSG9 Classic now for a few years. Been through hell and back.. still asking for more. Stick a pair of Brigedales under these and your sorted! best boot I've ever worn out on the ground.

I use these for urban and summer ops. Tried them in wet weather once, not so good.. :cantbeli:

Meindl Army for wet conditions. Have a pair for eight years and still like new. Heavy a f$%k though and you slip a lot when on wet rocky surfaces. I'm replacing these with Blackhawk Warriors. Tried a mates pair and loved them. Only second to my Adidas.

The 5.11 HRT are OK but not up to long term deployment. Busted them after three months, still a good boot considering..

[Connaught Ranger]

i was in a outdoors shop and the guy said the irish army guys always buy them and wearing them out in a couple of months because they dont realise that theyre an urban boot.

Do you really think that "irish army guys" are so dumb, that they do not know good kit from bad,? :roll:

By the way Irish Army Personnel in both the Regular and Reserve are issued boots to wear, but seeing as you are not in either of those forces, just stuck your head in the door on a training night, probably that point, went unnoticed.p-)
Connaught Ranger.

[SandBagger]

Do you really think that "irish army guys" are so dumb, that they do not know good kit from bad,? :roll:

By the way Irish Army Personnel in both the Regular and Reserve are issued boots to wear, but seeing as you are not in either of those forces, just stuck your head in the door on a training night, probably that point, went unnoticed.p-)
Connaught Ranger.
listen im just repeating what a guy said , yeah?

[digrar]

I'm sure the shoe salesman has a great insight to the soldiers buying shoes from him, that second hand information was well worth repeating...

[Connaught Ranger]

listen im just repeating what a guy said , yeah?

Well kid, sometime it pays to put the brain in motion before repeating B.S.,otherwise you look to be a bigger plank than the salesman.

Kids :roll:

[SandBagger]

I'm sure the shoe salesman has a great insight to the soldiers buying shoes from him, that second hand information was well worth repeating... his dad was 20years in the PDF and he much to everybodys chagrin was rdf,as i was about 14 he knew i wasnt going to buy a €200(?) pair of boots so he wasnt trying to sell me anything

[SandBagger]

Well kid, sometime it pays to put the brain in motion before repeating B.S.,otherwise you look to be a bigger plank than the salesman.

Kids :roll:
ffs some airsofter posted some POS chinese runners and i get my arse handed to me for that :-*$

[Connaught Ranger]

his dad was 20years in the PDF and he much to everybodys chagrin was rdf,as i was about 14 he knew i wasnt going to buy a €200(?) pair of boots so he wasnt trying to sell me anything

So your comments / info with regards these boots is over 2 years old :cantbeli:

[Connaught Ranger]

ffs some airsofter posted some POS chinese runners and i get my arse handed to me for that :-*$

Yes. do you think if somebody posts something soft,

it automatically allows you to do the same? :roll:

Thank God your not in the military with thinking like that.

[Vintz]

CR, as always,m you're correct.

Yes, personnel of the Irish Defense Forces have purchases these boots privately, myself included.

Ireland isn't a land merely of bogs awaiting a turf cutter. We operate in urban areas also, both at home and more importantly on overseas deployment where I'm sure a good number of those pairs ended up...

Unfounded personal comments should be left at home. Not where members of said organization can view more importantly comment on.

[Jonsson8]

Just a quick question regarding boots for US troops, there's no "standard boot" that all troops have to wear? Different models by different manufacturers? Do they have to be approved by the Army or Marines or whatever branch you're in? And do you have to buy them yourself, they're not just handed out at the base or something? And does this apply to all kinds of equipment or just boots?

If so it's a bit different than it was when I served in Sweden as a conscript back in the days, they handed out boots and other equipment and everybody got the same model, I thought maybe that's how it works everywhere. :)

[Power_serj]

Thanks for the responses Oxly and everyone else. Much appreciated. I will definately take your experiences into consideration!

Anwer to your questions below, Jonsson8.




Just a quick question regarding boots for US troops, there's no "standard boot" that all troops have to wear? Different models by different manufacturers? A: Soldiers are initially issued a Temperate/Hot Weather Boot and a Cold Weather boot. Depending on your size and foot shape, you will get whatever brand they give you.

Do they have to be approved by the Army or Marines or whatever branch you're in? A: Yes they must be approved.

And do you have to buy them yourself, they're not just handed out at the base or something? And does this apply to all kinds of equipment or just boots? A: After initial issue Soldiers have to buy their own boots and uniforms. However, there is a Clothing Allowance in their paychecks to cover the costs.

If so it's a bit different than it was when I served in Sweden as a conscript back in the days, they handed out boots and other equipment and everybody got the same model, I thought maybe that's how it works everywhere. :)

I answered your questions in the quote box above.

[unthinking]

Do they have to be approved by the Army or Marines or whatever branch you're in?
There is a list of approved boots for the Army. Check out this link if you're interested, it's pretty comprehensive and accurate as far as I can tell:
http://www.camo-store.com/Free%20Stuff/Boots%20authorized%20for%20wear%20with%20the%20ACU.htm

[Jonsson8]

Thanks for the quick answers and that list guys, that makes sense.

[Britboy]

Have worn the GSG9 Classic now for a few years. Been through hell and back.. still asking for more. Stick a pair of Brigedales under these and your sorted! best boot I've ever worn out on the ground.

I use these for urban and summer ops. Tried them in wet weather once, not so good.. :cantbeli:

Meindl Army for wet conditions. Have a pair for eight years and still like new. Heavy a f$%k though and you slip a lot when on wet rocky surfaces. I'm replacing these with Blackhawk Warriors. Tried a mates pair and loved them. Only second to my Adidas.

The 5.11 HRT are OK but not up to long term deployment. Busted them after three months, still a good boot considering..

Try a pair of gortex boot liners under summer boots for wet weather. The new issue British Army ones (black like sealskinz, not light green) are good kit, available relatively cheaply and the postage to Eire wouldn't be great I think. I used to use them under issue leather boots when it got really wet, and still keep them in my bergen in case my boots get soaked and don't dry out for awhile. Or if I misjudge things and am wearing lightweight, non goretex boots with fabric bits in, just before it blows a fvcking maelstrom outside - gotta love the British summer :p

They won't be as warm and supportive as something like Lowas but it will keep the wet off for cheap. And maybe better for some things too - bit more light and nimble than a massive pair of mountain boots.

[Carib]

I would call those high tops.

Carib...why not get the belleville 310s?


i just may my buddy here at AIT wants to sell me his, they are comfortable as hell but I am looking at the Belleville 390 des or the 300des or the 340des. What is the ST designation all about? And what is the difference between these boots, they all look the same.

[GrimReaper]

ST= Steel/safety toe

[GrimReaper]

would some one tell me that why the french army and IDF are still using the canvas boot?
I don't know what are the PROs........
The crap palladium canvas boot in the IDF is only used today in very limited roles,mainly non-combat ones. One example for vegan rear echelon soldiers who don't wear leather boots, or for on-base boots in some units.
In the far past it was indeed used for some combat roles and in some units for CQB or for those needing fast drying boots like the navel based units.

It's definatly far from being a 1st line combat boot today or in the last decade.

[meatrabbit]

Anyone here got any experience with hanwag boots? I think about getting a pair to try something new.

[Pete031]

No experience but I have heard nothing but good things about them.

[CQB_Operator]

Anyone here got any experience with hanwag boots? I think about getting a pair to try something new.

as good as Lowa & Meindl!!!
SUPER Quality

[Britboy]

I have not used them personally but others in my unit do and say they are pretty good going. Based on a German/Alpine design like the Lowas and Meindls so no doubt good for the mountains - which is where they were being used when I saw them.

[dwight]

I had hanwag boots, best in the world.

[fdf]

I was wondering which of these you would recommend. I want a pair to last me as least 6 months and be comfortable for EVERYDAY use, for at least several hours a day. These are the ones I am looking at. Are they good or not?

http://www.camo-store.com/Boots%20Wellco/Wellco%2080040-001.htm
http://www.camo-store.com/Boots%20Wellco/Wellco%2081040-001%20Temperate%20Weather%20ICB.htm
http://www.camo-store.com/Boots%20Belleville/Belleville%20F390%20DES.htm
http://www.camo-store.com/Boots%20Belleville/Belleville%20F340%20DES.htm
http://www.camo-store.com/Boots%20Belleville/Belleville%20340%20DES%20ST.htm

The wellcos look like the most comfortable but I have never tried either brand.

[Movieman]

They are all pretty much the same boot with the same Vibram sole. Try Danners with that sole, they will last for a year or more, you may have to resole them at some point.

[fdf]

They are all pretty much the same boot with the same Vibram sole. Try Danners with that sole, they will last for a year or more, you may have to resole them at some point.

Good, but I am not interested in boots with a long life. I need an extremely comfortable pair for long hours of daily use. ACU boots are my personal preference but I have had very little experience with them.

[Soldat_Américain]

why don't you want something with a long life?

[fdf]

why don't you want something with a long life?

You could have the longest lasting boots ever, but it they are not comfortable, your feet will be miserable. I do not mind buying a new pair every six months or so, but I expect them to be top quality comfortable. :)

[Soldat_Américain]

well if you're in the United States...nike has gotten back into the market, it's furth back in this thread, but you can get them. Just search: special field boot when you get to:store.nike.com (http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/store.nike.com) I will be getting pair myself soon, every review I've read says buy a half size larger.

[Movieman]

Does it have to be something standard issue or just any boot? Danners are comfortable too, but I like Bates Lites (aka Bates training boot) the most, really soft soles, gives it a feel and comfort or a running shoe with support of a boot, but they have to be resoled at least every 6 months, the softness makes them very susceptible to wear and tear. That's as good as issued boots will get.

If you are can choose from ANY boot there are plenty of opinions in this thread. My 2 cents would be Altama 3000 series, I got a pair for $80 at some trinkety Utah military store.

[Muddlers]

Anyone here got any experience with hanwag boots? I think about getting a pair to try something new.

Friend of mine used the Hanwag Special Forces GTX. He says they're great. I was told getting the non GTX as they dry out quicker when you get submerged in water.
It depends what kind of use you will use them for.


I also heard Alt-Bergs were apparently the ones to go for, but I still have to carry out some research.

[fdf]

Does it have to be something standard issue or just any boot? Danners are comfortable too, but I like Bates Lites (aka Bates training boot) the most, really soft soles, gives it a feel and comfort or a running shoe with support of a boot, but they have to be resoled at least every 6 months, the softness makes them very susceptible to wear and tear. That's as good as issued boots will get.


Do these have at least 6 inches to their height? I have to have these for construction.

And no they do not have to be military issue but I want to give ACU boots a shot. No other boots I have worn last more than a couple months before they kill my feet.:-(


well if you're in the United States...nike has gotten back into the market, it's furth back in this thread, but you can get them. Just search: special field boot when you get to:store.nike.com (http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/store.nike.com) I will be getting pair myself soon, every review I've read says buy a half size larger.

Ok, I will check them out.

[STEPAN1983]

Anyone here have expierence of wearing trekking boots with leather lining? (european trekking boots, expecially german, like some "Lowa" models) Can you tell me what are advantages and disadvantages of this kind of lining?

I suppose that:

1. leather lining is very comfy in "mechanical" way because the leather surface is very nice and with time it can stretch so it fits better to the shape of your foot?

2. Problem is microclimate (if we comparise it with synthetic textile lining) because leather wicks sweat, dry and breath worse than textile?

3. What about the additional weight?

[dwight]

Anyone here have expierence of wearing trekking boots with leather lining? (european trekking boots, expecially german, like some "Lowa" models) Can you tell me what are advantages and disadvantages of this kind of lining?

I suppose that:

1. leather lining is very comfy in "mechanical" way because the leather surface is very nice and with time it can stretch so it fits better to the shape of your foot?

2. Problem is microclimate (if we comparise it with synthetic textile lining) because leather wicks sweat, dry and breath worse than textile?

3. What about the additional weight?

I have a pair of meindel boots with leahter lining. I dont have any problems with it in comparence with textile. Indeed its fits beter to the foot. I dont have any problems with ventilation. today I walked 2 1/2 hours on mine through the hills. afther an hour we had to cross a water stream and my boots filled up with water. My feet dont hurt no injuries. My opinion; leahter is realy comfy.

[STEPAN1983]

isn it "meindl arizona" model that you wear?

[dwight]

isn it "meindl arizona" model that you wear?

Yes I believe so,

I exely never saw the box, they where a gift from my granddad. He didnt wear them and they fitted me.

http://i568.photobucket.com/albums/ss129/Dwight2741994/Photo-0010.jpg
here they are.

[Roy Batty]

I wear Meindl Eagle Combat Boots, and Meindl Desert Fox's at work. Love them to pieces.

[dwight]

I wear Meindl Eagle Combat Boots, and Meindl Desert Fox's at work. Love them to pieces.

I googled them, looks realy nice.
How are those desert fox in the heat?

[Roy Batty]

I googled them, looks realy nice.
How are those desert fox in the heat?

Best desert boots I have ever owned (I have owned Oakleys, Altimas, SWATs, Danners....and others). They were nice and light yet held up to a full tour of hard use in A'stan and still have another tour left in them.

[STEPAN1983]

what is the difference between "desert fox" and "safari" (I believe it is the latest version of meindl desert military boot) model ? On the meindl website there is only "safari". But it is possible to find 'desert fox' on british ebay (my friend and I want to buy it) In Moscow I found 'safari' boots in one outdoor shop, It felt extremly comfortable (but the price was terrible) So I wonder if the 'deser fox' is the same good as 'safari'

By the way one guy told me that "microclimate of leather lining is worse than "cambrelle" and analogs, but better than membrane boots"

[Seraphim]

I wear Meindl Eagle Combat Boots, and Meindl Desert Fox's at work. Love them to pieces.

Where you get your Meindls?

[CAV-TROOPER]

I think that BlackHawk Warrior boots are the most comfortable boots I have worn ever. I have flat feet......no really, they are flat as hell. But I can walk all day in the BlackHawk Warior boots. Desert tan size 11.


http://www.blackhawk.com/product/Warrior-Wear-Desert-Ops-Boots,1062,20.htm

[dwight]

I think that BlackHawk Warrior boots are the most comfortable boots I have worn ever. I have flat feet......no really, they are flat as hell. But I can walk all day in the BlackHawk Warior boots. Desert tan size 11.


http://www.blackhawk.com/product/Warrior-Wear-Desert-Ops-Boots,1062,20.htm

looks realy nice.
My feet are also flat:roll:, but i can handle it. I dont use extra soules so for now it goes fine.
but that are realy nice boots, if my meindls are dead I'll concider that blackhawks.p-)

[Roy Batty]

Where you get your Meindls?

I had some help from a friend in Europe ;)

(I think there is a distributor in Vancouver though)

edit; right here: http://www.ajbrooks.com/qs/category/40/2357/0/0

[CAV-TROOPER]

looks realy nice.
My feet are also flat:roll:, but i can handle it. I dont use extra soules so for now it goes fine.
but that are realy nice boots, if my meindls are dead I'll concider that blackhawks.p-)




I don't use extra insoles either, I think it makes the boot to tight and may cause your foot to ****ate to much. I might have to check out the Meindls if you have been using them on the flat foot express.

[tactical73]

Lowa Zephyr in stock for 14 august ;-)

[gilgoul]

You could have the longest lasting boots ever, but it they are not comfortable, your feet will be miserable. I do not mind buying a new pair every six months or so, but I expect them to be top quality comfortable. :)
Quite honestly, the best boots I ever wore were the ones I had to break in first.
And it is true for both military and civilians boots.
Everytime they were kind of comfy at the get going, they turned up to be some non supporting turds in bad times, civvy of military, to a point that I don't wear my military issued boots when in the sand box if my co doesn't see me.

[TDO]

Lowa Zephyr in stock for 14 august ;-)

High cut?
Get ready to pay some dough.

[blacktwig]

Quite honestly, the best boots I ever wore were the ones I had to break in first.
And it is true for both military and civilians boots.
Everytime they were kind of comfy at the get going, they turned up to be some non supporting turds in bad times, civvy of military, to a point that I don't wear my military issued boots when in the sand box if my co doesn't see me.

I could not agree with you more. The best civilian shoes that I have ever broke in are Rockports - very comfortable shoes. They came standard with this amazing air-cushion insole. And I read they are coming out with military/tactical boots that have that same insole.

[serbian_commandos]

''Rocky'' boots
http://www.mycity-military.com/imgs/112015_96039909_DSC01119.JPG

http://www.mycity-military.com/imgs/112015_96039909_DSC01120.JPG

www.rockyboots.com (http://www.rockyboots.com/)

[tactical73]

High cut?
Get ready to pay some dough.

in this moment only mid cut

[TDO]

in this moment only mid cut

I think those have been out for a while now.

[DE_Six]

I had some help from a friend in Europe ;)

(I think there is a distributor in Vancouver though)

edit; right here: http://www.ajbrooks.com/qs/category/40/2357/0/0

How do your Meindls fit relative to your usual shoe size, say in sneakers?

Cheers

[crocker038]

Can anybody verify for me if they have Lowa Desert Elite boots at the british Naffi (sic?) in KAF, and if so how much are they?

Thanks!

[James]

I can't say about KAF, but a colleague bought some a few weeks ago at the ISAF exchange at KAIA. I don't know price either. Just that they are available in country.

[crocker038]

What/where is KAIA?

[CQB_Operator]

What/where is KAIA?
King Abdulaziz International Airport, Saudi Arabia (near Jeddah)

[Jock]

er, actually i think he means KAbul International Airport(KAIA!)

[James]

King Abdulaziz International Airport, Saudi Arabia (near Jeddah)

Yeah, he asked about finding boots in Kandahar, and I referred him to an airport in Saudi Arabia. :cantbeli:


er, actually i think he means KAbul International Airport(KAIA!)

This.

[CQB_Operator]

Yeah, he asked about finding boots in Kandahar, and I referred him to an airport in Saudi Arabia. :cantbeli:

This.
Sorry was too quick Mea Culpa:oops:

[DeltaWhisky58]

You shouldn't have too much difficulty in finding Lowa desert boots at KAF as every second Brit ought to be wearing them - Lowa (along with Meindl) desert boots are standard issue to the British armed forces in desert areas.

See here (http://www.mod.uk/DefenceInternet/DefenceNews/EquipmentAndLogistics/InfantryKitincomparableWithFiveYearsAgo.htm). They are also rather plentiful on ebaY (http://shop.ebay.co.uk/?_from=R40&_trksid=m38&_nkw=lowa+desert+boots&_sacat=See-All-Categories).

[Arfah]

When I was last at KAF (2007/08) there were Meindls up to the ceiling (Lowa dessie elite were only just being introduced) and Lowa mountains.

18 months on they've probably got dessies in stock too.

[TDO]

http://www.sportsmansguide.com/net/cb/mens-timberland-desert-force-hi-boots-coyote-brown.aspx?a=561497

I picked up a pair of these a few months ago. They were very comfortable at first, but are now causing my feet considerable pain. The problem is just one one boot and has to do with where the leather happened to bend. They use metal eyelets, and as that boot bends, it forces that eyelet into the tendon on the front of my foot. After some use, it gets to the point where I can't even walk anymore. I am hoping that I can train the leather to crease differently, but it may be too late. The other boot creased in a different area, and still feels great, so it may just be my bad luck; but just a warning to those who are thinking about giving them try.

Also, if anyone has has this problem and/or knows of a solution, let me know.

[GETSOME]

http://www.sportsmansguide.com/net/cb/mens-timberland-desert-force-hi-boots-coyote-brown.aspx?a=561497

I picked up a pair of these a few months ago. They were very comfortable at first, but are now causing my feet considerable pain. The problem is just one one boot and has to do with where the leather happened to bend. They use metal eyelets, and as that boot bends, it forces that eyelet into the tendon on the front of my foot. After some use, it gets to the point where I can't even walk anymore. I am hoping that I can train the leather to crease differently, but it may be too late. The other boot creased in a different area, and still feels great, so it may just be my bad luck; but just a warning to those who are thinking about giving them try.

Also, if anyone has has this problem and/or knows of a solution, let me know.
Besides that ,is the boot any good,has any one else used these boots,i didnt even know timberland made military boots,or are they just fashion boots?

[Soldat_Américain]

Avoid Wellcos and Timberland like the plague.

[TDO]

Besides that ,is the boot any good,has any one else used these boots,i didnt even know timberland made military boots,or are they just fashion boots?

I have not put as many miles on them as I would like to have because of this problem, so I can't really say. All I can tell you was that they are a light assault boot comparable to the Oakley or Converse. The guys that sold them to me love them, said they have never seperated, and just get more more comfortable. I was in love with them until this happened. They also said they were being tested out by some SOF units but were recalled due to the camo sole not being regulation. Regularly $180 they are trying to get rid of the old ones at $60 and make room for the new regulation colors which will be back up to $180. He talked like the SOF unit was still going with them once they fit the bill. It is all hearsay of course, but I thought I would just relay what I have heard.

Another article:
http://soldiersystems.net/2009/01/28/timberland-force-boots/

[tactical73]

Lowa Zephyr in stock for 14 august ;-)


ready to ship ;-)

[odogg]

Last week i see this Boots and i think that these boots are the best military Boots for the troops in Astan.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I0Sl-8Jhx2U&eurl=http%3A%2F%2Fvideo%2Egoogle%2Ede%2Fvideosearch%3Fhl%3Dde%26q%3Dbates%2520tora%2520bora%2520boots%26um%3D1%26ie%3DUTF%2D8%26sa%3DN%26tab%3Dwv&feature=player_embedded

Any body with more info about the quality.

[taiaha]

Try asking the guys in the boots thread.

[odogg]

Ok Thanks.

[Marsuitor]

A Tora Bora boot?
Sounds more like some stupid gimmick to sell more boots than something new and groundbreaking that we all simply just need to survive in Afghanistan... :roll:

I've used quite alot of stuff over there depending on time of year and what i'm up to at the time. One of my favorites is plain and simple, quick and dirty mesh Colombia shoes (mesh as in "you can see your own socks through them"), that is if i'm just working from my truck and i need to keep my shoes on for a long time without taking them off. They're also a favorite to use when in LUP and dug-in as they weigh f..k-all and don't take up much space, ie. they don't destroy your feet and ventilate well. I've also used low Colombia boots (no Goretex, not waterproof, hates moist ground) for work when it's dry and i'm walking somewhat.
But for the most i use Scarpa Ladakh boots which do a hell of a good job pretty much overall... For footwear Scarpa is God for me.

[Soldat_Américain]

Okay, the French use Solomons so I don't see what is so special. I almost purchased them, but then I saw the price and my eyes just went insane. However it is not the best boot for us in Afghanistan, but it is a tool. It is an alpine boot so for all units going to the mountains in the winter either this, a pair of Solomon mountaineering boots, or koflacs should be an issued piece of kit. However I wouldn't care at all if I was issued them, because their good boots, but a little price prohibitive when considering they can only be used in a specific environment.

[ZoneOne]

At a retail of 449.95, I think I'll pass unless I can either get an issued pair or a free trial pair from Bates.

[Chimera]

Any feedback on these boots: MEINDL Island, about 200€

http://img199.imageshack.us/img199/2985/midmeindlislandpro12843.jpg

I'm thinking of bying a pair. Wonder if it's worth investing that much money...

I need it for hiking in the Alps during all seasons and trekking.

I wanted the Softline GTX first, but they after trying them in a shop they don't seem manufactured for the loooong term.

Any thoughts, suggestions?

[Pete031]

I have only heard good things about that boot.

[Roy Batty]

Any feedback on these boots: MEINDL Island, about 200€

http://img199.imageshack.us/img199/2985/midmeindlislandpro12843.jpg




I have some. They rock........warm though.

[jsb]

I have many differant kinds off Meindls .I think you can,t go wrong with them.
I own for example Expert ,Jungle,Island and the army.
Solid as a rock.

jeroen

[2495]

Any feedback on these boots: MEINDL Island, about 200€

http://img199.imageshack.us/img199/2985/midmeindlislandpro12843.jpg

I'm thinking of bying a pair. Wonder if it's worth investing that much money...

I need it for hiking in the Alps during all seasons and trekking.

I wanted the Softline GTX first, but they after trying them in a shop they don't seem manufactured for the loooong term.

Any thoughts, suggestions?

As long as your doing no crampon work, you cannot get a better boot. make sure you get fitted right, and your onto one hell of a winner.

[Chimera]

Allright, thanks guys my choice is made! If the Dutch have issued them for the Army, it can't be a pile of shlt.

[theholeinthedonut]

Meindl Island.

I've been wearing them daily since they came out in '95 or so. I must have run through a dozen pairs of them. They are good to go as long as you won't be going into a high altittude environement. A little bit warm for summer, this summer I changed them for an Meindl Safari, I only switched back to the Island last week.

[Tourist]

Ok so lets build some good Alpine style boots like ............Lowa/Meindl.

Yeah, lets build them with a rigid deep tread sole that takes crampons like.......Lowa/Meindl.

And, lets have a high rubber band as part of the sole and a GTX inner to make them more waterproof like............Lowa/Meindl.

And, lets use eyelets and hooks for fastening like ........... Lowa/Meindl.

Yeah, and we only want them to be around 8 inches tall to allow flexibility like ........... Lowa/Meindl.

Personally, I think I will just stick with my ORIGINAL handmade Lowa Mountain GTX that retail for £125.00 or Euro 200.00 and come with a bulletproof guarantee.

[James]

At a retail of 449.95, I think I'll pass unless I can either get an issued pair or a free trial pair from Bates.

This.

My Vasque Sundowner Classics have been working great for more than two years.

[mr.joe]

Just bought a pair of these:

http://jagtsalg.dk/images/performance.jpg
Haven't tested them in the field yet, but they seem to be of very good quality.

[Cpt.Comatose]

I've got a pair of Belleville 600 boots.
And I think about buying Altama jungle boots with Panama or Vibram sole.
Does anyone know if the sizing is comparable to the Belleville boots?

[Mate]

Just bought a pair of these:

http://jagtsalg.dk/images/performance.jpg
Haven't tested them in the field yet, but they seem to be of very good quality.
I have them for 5 years,used and abused them,still good as new,you wont regret buying them.

[dwight]

Allright, thanks guys my choice is made! If the Dutch have issued them for the Army, it can't be a pile of shlt.

I'm also considering to buy them when my others are weared out.
In the dutch army there the favorite, I know a guy who first bought some lowa desert boot because he had problems (feet hurt) with the issued desert boots, on his second tour to A'stan he whas issued meindl island pro's. He so much liked them that he never weared his lowa's again, he liked the meindl so much that he gave the lowa's to me, he didn't even consider to use both boots and switch between them from time to time.

[tactical73]

The Zephyr GTX.
http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c38/CavalrySAS/lowa%20boots/DSCN8301a.jpg

http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c38/CavalrySAS/lowa%20boots/DSCN8338a.jpg

http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c38/CavalrySAS/lowa%20boots/DSCN8337a.jpg

http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c38/CavalrySAS/lowa%20boots/DSCN8344a.jpg
http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c38/CavalrySAS/lowa%20boots/DSCN8343a.jpg

http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c38/CavalrySAS/lowa%20boots/DSCN8341a.jpg

http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c38/CavalrySAS/lowa%20boots/DSCN8346a.jpg

http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c38/CavalrySAS/lowa%20boots/DSCN8339a.jpg

thanks Kraven for pics

[CAV-TROOPER]

My unit will never allow me to wear the LOWA ZEPHYER as a duty boot but I am going to buy a pair for off duty, give my Merrell Chameleons a break.

I have found the Zephyers for $185.00 (US) anyone find any better price?

[STEPAN1983]

My boots:

Crispi Oasi GTX. Military boots. Reliable and comfortable lacing system (hardware is the same that used in american military boots). Good ankle support.
http://i013.radikal.ru/0909/38/fc326250e957.jpg (http://www.radikal.ru)

Meindl Desert Fox (from english ebay). Very nice boots, feels ok in warm weather, comfy, but one dissapointing thing - lacing hardware position is little bit random (coordinates and angle). It does not interfere with lacing and reliability, but I expected something more accurate from Meindl.
http://s40.radikal.ru/i087/0909/ea/b020d2ba4faf.jpg (http://www.radikal.ru)

Ecco Xpedition. "outdoor" boots, but IMHO too soft for outdoor. Extremly comfortable for everyday life, like good sneakers. With Gore-tex. Hardware is dissapointing too - metal for loops is too soft and thin, it can be deformed.
http://s61.radikal.ru/i172/0909/80/da8773053906.jpg (http://www.radikal.ru)

[Loskop]

I wear a pair of French Rangers for work and play and they are comfortable and hard wearing

[dwight]

Hello,

I just got myself a pair of meindl island pro msf GTX boots. B/C soule.
Realy comfterble, bought them yesterday and weared them the rest of the day, today I'm gonna use them in the hills of limburg (The Netherlands). We'll see how its gonna work out.
The are grey/green. I first prefered the brown, but I'm not military so doesnt matter.

[MaverickCowboy]

Hey guys, winters coming up around here in Montana, and i just moved here. was curious if you folks know of a good, insulating, boot for snow. maybe goretex?

[Soldat_Américain]

Hey guys, winters coming up around here in Montana, and i just moved here. was curious if you folks know of a good, insulating, boot for snow. maybe goretex?

Danner with 400g thinsulate.

[Bacon]

I got the Danner Striker II with 400g thinsulate with gortex for winter. But for civie use I have Hi-Tec Blackcomb with 400g thinsulate and their proprietary gortex material.

[MaverickCowboy]

I got the Danner Striker II with 400g thinsulate with gortex for winter. But for civie use I have hi-tec blackdiamond with 400g thinsulate and their proprietary gortex material.

Pics? and does Belleville or Red wings make any hardcore winter/mountain boots? Whats the toughest boot out there for Montana terrain?

[Soldat_Américain]

Pics? and does Belleville or Red wings make any hardcore winter/mountain boots? Whats the toughest boot out there for Montana terrain?
Danner.com (http://lmgtfy.com/?q=Danner+Acadia)

[Bacon]

Well it depends on what you're using them for. Rocky mountainous terrain, I wouldnt recommend the Striker II, they are more for street/pavement use.

Summer
http://www.danner.com/product/uniform+boots/tactical/striker%26trade-+ii+dxtvent%26trade-+uniform+boots.do
Winter
http://www.danner.com/product/uniform+boots/tactical/striker%26trade-+ii+gtx%26reg-+insulated+uniform+boots.do

Oh the Hi-Tec boots are blackcomb...not blackdiamond. It has an awesome aggressive tread on it.
http://www.hi-tec.com/ca/39911-product-blackcomb_400_quik_zip-mens.html

[MaverickCowboy]

what do you guys think of magnums?

[Bacon]

I had a pair of Magnum Stealth series a couple years back. The leather is really soft on the toes and it started peeling after a couple of months. Comfortable but not durable.

[MaverickCowboy]

I had a pair of Magnum Stealth series a couple years back. The leather is really soft on the toes and it started peeling after a couple of months. Comfortable but not durable.

alright. same with me lasted 6 months really.

dunno about the the new ones.


while i have you here, does danner make a military boot thats good for Negative -30 F degree weather, and 3 feet of snow?

[James]

alright. same with me lasted 6 months really.

dunno about the the new ones.


while i have you here, does danner make a military boot thats good for Negative -30 F degree weather, and 3 feet of snow?

I'v worn insulated Danner Recons comfortably in temperatures as low as -58F.

[MaverickCowboy]

I'v worn insulated Danner Recons comfortably in temperatures as low as -58F.

they still make it?

http://www.danner.com/product/military+boots/insulated/desert+tfx%26trade-+rough-out+gtx%26reg-+insulated+military+boot+.do kinda lookin at this.

[Soldat_Américain]

You want these ones
http://www.danner.com/product/military+boots/insulated/fort+lewis%26trade-+light+mens-womens+400g+insulated+military+boots.do

[bean_mr]

Just issued a pair of Rocky S2V Desert boots and did a light ruck (about 2k) with them the other day in order to brake them in a bit. They tore my heal up quite bad. Has anybody else used these boots? And what are your opinions of them?

Thanks in advance.

[Albatross]

I'v worn insulated Danner Recons comfortably in temperatures as low as -58F.

It is not possible to be comfy at -58. I speak from exp.

[hogdriver]

These are my Magnum-boots. Not the enemy but my puppy-dog destroyed one boot.

The boots:
http://i37.tinypic.com/34par1w.jpg

The traitor:
http://i38.tinypic.com/faoqa0.jpg

[nicolas2b]

Hi,

Very interesting thread

I think about buying one paire of boots (belleville 550 or bates 25501), and I'm wondering about 2 or 3 things :
-how easy is it to clean : I will use use them for hiking/ruck marches, and there will be dirty water, mud ...
-what is better : waterproof boots or hot weather with liner (bates do it) to put in winter ? If I put a liner, do I need to take a half size larger (9 -> 9,5) or wider (9Reg -> 9Wide) or none ?
-I'm in France, so the weather is colder and wet (compare to Irak and Astan where the boot are made for). Do you think it's good boot or "real" hiking shoes are better ?

I read the thread, so I think my questions aren't repost. I hope they're not annoying too.

EDIT : when I mention liner, I mean waterproof liner like this (http://cgi.ebay.com/Bates-Gore-Tex-Boot-Liners-New-Size-8-8-5-N-R_W0QQitemZ350255911133QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_DefaultDomain_0?hash=item518ce110dd&_trksid=p3286.m20.l1116#ht_500wt_0)

thanks

---
Nicolas

[STEPAN1983]

hot weather boots have a vent holes so in wet cold weather it could be a problem. If there is no vent holes it is interesting variant, because you can remove lining and dry it very easily on open air. Real hiking/trekking boots have a great cushioning (no rubs) and better ankle support. But this kind a boot will dry longer than classic military boot (because its lining is simplier)

[KilledByAGirl]

I am in love with the Nike SFB.

http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c383/agt144/CIMG2691.jpg
http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c383/agt144/CIMG2690.jpg

I'll use my Danner TFX GTX boots for the winter now. EVen though they aren't the insulated variation, they did just fine last winter with a good sock.

[syaoran]

Hi

I would like to know if anyone can help me identify this pair of boots:

http://i895.photobucket.com/albums/ac155/XTCADAMANT/107319006_full.jpg

The seller from the website told me he doesn't know anything about it.

Also, can anyone recognise these?

http://i895.photobucket.com/albums/ac155/XTCADAMANT/EoEsnap.jpg

The image is a screen capture from the anime series: The Eden of the East. The main protagonist (Akira Takizawa) is an homage to the Taxi Driver. He wears a M65 Jacket from the Vietnam era, and these boots. I would think that they are the 'Jungle Boots'.

I googled "vietnam jungle boots" and these were the results. What do you guys think?

http://images.google.co.nz/images?q=vietnam%20jungle%20boots&oe=utf-8&rls=org.mozilla:en-GB:official&client=firefox-a&um=1&ie=UTF-8&sa=N&hl=en&tab=wi

[Bacon]

Hi

I would like to know if anyone can help me identify this pair of boots:

http://i895.photobucket.com/albums/ac155/XTCADAMANT/107319006_full.jpg

The seller from the website told me he doesn't know anything about it.

Also, can anyone recognise these?

http://i895.photobucket.com/albums/ac155/XTCADAMANT/EoEsnap.jpg

The image is a screen capture from the anime series: The Eden of the East. The main protagonist (Akira Takizawa) is an homage to the Taxi Driver. He wears a M65 Jacket from the Vietnam era, and these boots. I would think that they are the 'Jungle Boots'.

I googled "vietnam jungle boots" and these were the results. What do you guys think?

http://images.google.co.nz/images?q=vietnam%20jungle%20boots&oe=utf-8&rls=org.mozilla:en-GB:official&client=firefox-a&um=1&ie=UTF-8&sa=N&hl=en&tab=wi

Blood Diamond Boots.

[DnA]

First pair is probably some kind of Mukluks, kinda look like the USAF ones kinda

An yea that anime bit is Jungle Boots. Did you really need someone to say yes those clearly animated jungle boots are jungle boots.

[Soldat_Américain]

First pair is probably USAF Mukluks
http://images.google.ca/images?hl=en&source=hp&q=USAF%20mukluks&um=1&ie=UTF-8&sa=N&tab=wi

An yea that anime bit is Jungle Boots with the Panama sole.. did you really need someone to say yes those clearly animated jungle boots are jungle boots.

Not mukluks but I have no idea what they are. The bottom parts make me think paladiums.

[Albatross]

Hi

I would like to know if anyone can help me identify this pair of boots:

http://i895.photobucket.com/albums/ac155/XTCADAMANT/107319006_full.jpg

The seller from the website told me he doesn't know anything about it.

Also, can anyone recognise these?

http://i895.photobucket.com/albums/ac155/XTCADAMANT/EoEsnap.jpg

The image is a screen capture from the anime series: The Eden of the East. The main protagonist (Akira Takizawa) is an homage to the Taxi Driver. He wears a M65 Jacket from the Vietnam era, and these boots. I would think that they are the 'Jungle Boots'.

I googled "vietnam jungle boots" and these were the results. What do you guys think?

http://images.google.co.nz/images?q=vietnam%20jungle%20boots&oe=utf-8&rls=org.mozilla:en-GB:official&client=firefox-a&um=1&ie=UTF-8&sa=N&hl=en&tab=wi


http://img162.imageshack.us/img162/6677/disgustii9.jpg

Someone just ban him.

[syaoran]

Cheers people! That helped a lot. And yeah, I needed at least ONE confirmation... others I've asked didn't know what I was on about.

[T3ngu]

Blood Diamond Boots.
Yeah thats what i was thinking. Would match the pants perfectly.

[asch]

Hi

I would like to know if anyone can help me identify this pair of boots:

The seller from the website told me he doesn't know anything about it.

Also, can anyone recognise these?

The image is a screen capture from the anime series: The Eden of the East. The main protagonist (Akira Takizawa) is an homage to the Taxi Driver. He wears a M65 Jacket from the Vietnam era, and these boots. I would think that they are the 'Jungle Boots'.

I googled "vietnam jungle boots" and these were the results. What do you guys think?

http://images.google.co.nz/images?q=vietnam%20jungle%20boots&oe=utf-8&rls=org.mozilla:en-GB:official&client=firefox-a&um=1&ie=UTF-8&sa=N&hl=en&tab=wi
you will burn in hell.

[digrar]

We're IDing cartoon boots now? Seriously? It's got to be a wind up. Are you taking the piss, please say you're taking the piss?

[syaoran]

lol I understand that it was a little out of the blues, but the series was based on semi-real stuff, and I was just curious.

[Hollis]

My 40 year old boots.

http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k226/Hollis6475/doggiepack-1.jpg

[Soldat_Américain]

My 40 year old boots.



How much foam padding do you have 100mph tape around on the shoulder straps?

[Albatross]

should get those bad boys bronzed up.

[James]

It is not possible to be comfy at -58. I speak from exp.

My feet weren't painfully cold. I didn't say anything about the rest of me. ;)

Hollis, nice boots.

I recently got a pait of OTB Thor boots. I think I'll swap the insoles for some superfeet when I get home, but so far they're very comfortable. It's only been a few days though, so I can't speak to durability.

[Hollis]

should get those bad boys bronzed up.

Our company Gunny said he was going to do that. Probably our most prized possession was our boots.

[JC0352]

Our company Gunny said he was going to do that. Probably our most prized possession was our boots.

Nice, H! I bought some green jungles in SOI and wore them until they phased them out when the digi cammies came out; they were my favorite boots.

[Givati575]

I need a nice cheap yet decent hiking shoe and ive been looking at the Windriver brand.....doesn't seem too bad. I'll be using them for an intense security course so they need to be flexible and won't destroy my feet when I run. Anyone have any input?

here are a few examples:

http://www2.marks.com/productdetails.asp?categoryID=504&start=1&href=%2Fctwnew%2Fmarkprod.nsf%2FProductListByID%2F1B2298CF39BAF62F802574D700084F34%3FOpenDocument

http://www2.marks.com/productdetails.asp?categoryID=504&start=1&href=%2Fctwnew%2Fmarkprod.nsf%2FProductListByID%2F5BE5E4957DE6B7F287257434002C6357%3FOpenDocument

http://www2.marks.com/productdetails.asp?categoryID=504&start=1&href=%2Fctwnew%2Fmarkprod.nsf%2FProductListByID%2FFEBFF0C5FAA5455087257206002AC78D%3FOpenDocument

[Pete031]

You get what you pay for... Along the same lines as Canadian Tire boots, coleman, etc....

[Givati575]

You get what you pay for... Along the same lines as Canadian Tire boots, coleman, etc....

really? They seem to be a bit better than Coleman boots......