Boots Boots Boots... 62 boot threads in one

[MikeSierra151]

I bought an older model of these in 2004, and they are still kickin.

http://www.shoebuy.com/hi-tec-outlander/157456/363807

For around the same price you could probably find some Merrells or older model Asolos.

[Givati575]

I bought an older model of these in 2004, and they are still kickin.

http://www.shoebuy.com/hi-tec-outlander/157456/363807

For around the same price you could probably find some Merrells or older model Asolos.

hi-tec's eh....and that price is in american dollars?

[MikeSierra151]

Its a US website.

[GB_FXST]

I need a nice cheap yet decent hiking shoe and ive been looking at the Windriver brand.....doesn't seem too bad. I'll be using them for an intense security course so they need to be flexible and won't destroy my feet when I run. Anyone have any input?

here are a few examples:

http://www2.marks.com/productdetails.asp?categoryID=504&start=1&href=%2Fctwnew%2Fmarkprod.nsf%2FProductListByID%2F1B2298CF39BAF62F802574D700084F34%3FOpenDocument

http://www2.marks.com/productdetails.asp?categoryID=504&start=1&href=%2Fctwnew%2Fmarkprod.nsf%2FProductListByID%2F5BE5E4957DE6B7F287257434002C6357%3FOpenDocument

http://www2.marks.com/productdetails.asp?categoryID=504&start=1&href=%2Fctwnew%2Fmarkprod.nsf%2FProductListByID%2FFEBFF0C5FAA5455087257206002AC78D%3FOpenDocument

I believe that that is an oxymoron ... :)

Google: Vasque Sundowners

I have many many tough bacpacking miles on mine, but they are a boot, not a shoe.

[California Joe]

Here you go, have fun Champ.

http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/showthread.php?t=84159

[Givati575]

Here you go, have fun Champ.

http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/showthread.php?t=84159

thanks joe, i just wanted a quick reply to my specific need. I'll search for existing threads next time.

[Givati575]

I wear Meindl Eagle Combat Boots, and Meindl Desert Fox's at work. Love them to pieces.

Which boot is suited for what job?

[Roy Batty]

The Eagles are great in Canada. The Desert Foxs' are ....well....for the desert..lol

The eagles stay comfy and dry without being too hot. A great boot.

[Givati575]

The Eagles are great in Canada. The Desert Foxs' are ....well....for the desert..lol

The eagles stay comfy and dry without being too hot. A great boot.

did you only operate in the desert terrains in A-stan? Are the eagles flexible or firm?

[Roy Batty]

The Eagles have a comfortable vibram sole. I can stand all day in them or hike as long as needed.
http://www.lansdaleltd.com/prod.php/prod/MEAGLE

[Givati575]

The Eagles have a comfortable vibram sole. I can stand all day in them or hike as long as needed.
http://www.lansdaleltd.com/prod.php/prod/MEAGLE

what about sizing, is it different than your civilian running shoe size?

[Roy Batty]

I wear a 9 in runners ect but my Meindles are all 8 1/2.....

[wild_wild_wes]

In the "Today's Photos" last month there were pics of 4th Infantry Division soldiers who had recieved a lot of COTS gear; anyone know the boots they got?

[uglybaby]

hikers aren't meant for running. in fact decent hikers really aren't meant for anything but hiking and perform quite poorly on asphalt or concrete (they'll kill your feet and destroy the soles quick). If you want a decent boot that you can run in look at the 5.11 series. I've owned 2 pairs of the HRT's and found that they were probably the most comfortable boot I've owned. Much like sneakers with the extra ankle support of a mid to full boot. In their advertisements they state that a runner won 5k road race wearing a pair and for my part don't find it too hard to believe.

[TacoDelRio]

While this topic is still open, hiking boots are dead. Get some good trail runners. There's literally no need for hiking boots.

"What if you're carrying more weight?"
Lose the weight.

Easy peasy.

Any Q's, shoot.

[Airhab]

http://i487.photobucket.com/albums/rr235/zen8860/Visvim%20Shoes/VISVIM%20High%20shoes/DSC00533.jpg

visvim

do want

[Soldat_Américain]

While this topic is still open, hiking boots are dead. Get some good trail runners. There's literally no need for hiking boots.

"What if you're carrying more weight?"
Lose the weight.

Easy peasy.

Any Q's, shoot.


Taco...just let him spend the $300 on Merrill Hiking boots.

[TacoDelRio]

Taco...just let him spend the $300 on Merrill Hiking boots.

Ouch, $300 for Merrells? Someone in China is making some money!

[Soldat_Américain]

I almost spent the money to get some Solomon mountaineering boots, but then said **** it.

[TacoDelRio]

I haven't seen any Salomon mountaineering boots in a while.

I gotta pick up some Kayland or other ludicrously-expensive ice boots soon.

[Soldat_Américain]

When I was at Mtn Warfare in the Alps we all got some old as **** koflacs and all the instructors had an assorted variety of Solomons.

[khukuri]

When I was at Mtn Warfare in the Alps we all got some old as **** koflacs and all the instructors had an assorted variety of Solomons.



Oh the old koflachs...

Salomons are really narrow I dont like them at all. The brands that I find really stand out is la sportiva and scarpa...check out their non plastic boots, effing wow.

[TacoDelRio]

Scarpa runs just wide enough, I think. I don't remember too well, but I think the La Sportivas I wanted (Trango) were too narrow.

Dang Eye-talians.

[MOKA.ROUX]

Just got my self a pair of the new magnum boots. they are really very good and im well impressed with the Ion-mask technology

See linky: Magnum Elite Force 8.0 WPi Boots with Ion-mask technology (http://www.body-armour-protection.co.uk/buy/Magnum-Elite-Force-8-0-WPi-boots-ion-mask.html)

Not bad value for money i thought... Has anyone else on here tested them or own a pair?

[khukuri]

Scarpa runs just wide enough, I think. I don't remember too well, but I think the La Sportivas I wanted (Trango) were too narrow.

Dang Eye-talians.


Yea, scarpa can be narrowish as well, had 4 different scarpa boots over the years thou, phantoms were the best. I have wide feet and its a pain in the arrse finding ice boots for that. I heard that mammut had started making ice boots. Theyre normally wideish

[TacoDelRio]

Just checked, didn't know they made boots!

[Valkyries]

Whats the difference between the

Vasque Sundowner
Vasque Sundowner Summit
Vasque Sundowner GTX

[TacoDelRio]

Going from http://www.vasque.com/results.aspx?q=sundowner , they all appear to be older style boots.

Anything with GTX in the name = Goretex liner sewn in. Waterproof, "breathable". For AZ, I wouldn't worry unless you're up in Flagstaff or on one of the few hikes or climbs of Humphreys Peak in winter. Depends entirely on your use.

I'll say this again... if you're buying boots for hiking... try trail runners. I do NOT use boots anymore, unless I am doing a technical winter climb and need it for ice!!!!! YMMV

[Valkyries]

I bought the sundowner summits a little over a year ago, for trails such as the Humphrey peak and the white mountains / the rim. Its not really camping if its not raining or snowing.

Im pretty sure my summits have a goretex liner, but it also has rubber covering the top of the toe of the boot to protect the leather. I was just curious as to the difference to the three types of sundowners, if any besides the cosmetic ones.

I do have a pair of old light weight Nike boots, for the easy trails.

[Soldat_Américain]

my opinion of timberlands is that they are expensive and ain't worth any investment

[MOKA.ROUX]

my opinion of timberlands is that they are expensive and ain't worth any investment

thats a fair comment, whats your best boot?

[Nickchios]

500$ for a pair ?......

Oakley boots....

http://militarytimes.com/blogs/gearscout/2009/10/29/oakleys-elite-assault-boot-stomps-bad-guys-wallets/

[Soldat_Américain]

thats a fair comment, whats your best boot?
The Hot Weather Oakley Assault Boot has been good to me although I not longer use it. I'm rockin' the Nike SFBs and so far they are lovely.

[TacoDelRio]

Get Timberlands if you enjoy rap music.

[Soldat_Américain]

500$ for a pair ?......

Oakley boots....

http://militarytimes.com/blogs/gearscout/2009/10/29/oakleys-elite-assault-boot-stomps-bad-guys-wallets/

When they market it to my demographic aka shamshielders...it won't cost $500.

[khukuri]

Just checked, didn't know they made boots!


Well to be fair, it s actually raichle boots that recently got bought by mammut and are now simply called mammut. :)




I'll say this again... if you're buying boots for hiking... try trail runners. I do NOT use boots anymore, unless I am doing a technical winter climb and need it for ice!!!!! YMMV


Partly agree but not entirely. I rarely use boots for normal walks these day (not that I do any normal walks anymore lol). Instead I use trail walking shoes. Trail running shoes however I would not recommend. They are made to be superlight and wear out very very very quickly.

Additionally if you are an experienced walker you dont need the extra support of boots, but if someone is not used to the bush I recommend boots!

[TacoDelRio]

I guess it depends on what trailrunners you use. Most trailrunners I've used (all except one, Salomon Speedcross 2) and seen are more rugged than normal running shoes.

I use Salomon XA Pro 3D series shoes most often. The uppers wear out before the soles or anything else does.

[khukuri]

I guess it depends on what trailrunners you use. Most trailrunners I've used (all except one, Salomon Speedcross 2) and seen are more rugged than normal running shoes.

I use Salomon XA Pro 3D series shoes most often. The uppers wear out before the soles or anything else does.

Oh yeah these things dont last long, although its one of the nicest running shoes out there. have you ever seen the INOV8 trail runners, super light, wears out in no time,,,

[TacoDelRio]

Never seen those. Looking into them! I just went through another pair of shoes (Nike)... need new runners that aren't made by Chinese kids getting $0.03 per day (Salomon pays the kids $0.12!).

My normal boring Salomon XA Pro 3D's survived a year of running 40 miles a week, approaches for alpine climbs, daily stuff, etc. One pair per year basically.

[flanker7]

http://www.covertthreads.com/

I got a couple of pairs of these socks to try them but I haven't got the chance yet.
Does anyone have any experience?

[tactical73]

READY
http://i240.photobucket.com/albums/ff193/tactical73/ZephyrHighcutg.jpg

http://i240.photobucket.com/albums/ff193/tactical73/ZephyrHighcut1.jpg

[Soldat_Américain]

They look nice, what's the price and how much to they weigh?

[Gungnir]

They look nice, what's the price and how much to they weigh?


Yeah, I'd like to know that as well.
I do not know if they are authorized with US Army/ACU... but downrange away from 'garrison and the flag pole' no one will care.

I had a pair of Blackhawk Warrior Wear Desert Ops boots for my Afghanistan deployment. I got them 2-3 weeks prior to the deployment and started to wear them to get a feel and break them in. A senior NCO (not in my unit) stormed up to me saying those aren't authorized boots, etc.
I replied: 'Oh I'm going to Afghanistan... we're allowed to have these boots'
He basically said 'oh ok roger... be careful out there'
They were of course Coyote Tan since Desert Tan was on backorder for like eight months so that is why he probably noticed.
Good boots they were.

[James]

I recently bought some OTB Thor boots (https://www.otbboots.com/main.html). I replaced the regular insoles with some green superfeet. I wore them for a couple of weeks in A'Stan and several times since I've been home. They're very light and comfortable and seem to be very well made.

[bobjane]

Anyone know what these are?

http://www.defence.gov.au/opEx/global/opslipper/images/gallery/2009/1105/20091012adf8239682_167.jpg

[Soldat_Américain]

Look like Merrill's to me.

[tactical73]

They look nice, what's the price and how much to they weigh?
Lowa Zephyr Desert GTX® Hight cut Weight Per Pair 2.40 lbs

price 139€

[tango44]

Anyone know what these are?

http://www.defence.gov.au/opEx/global/opslipper/images/gallery/2009/1105/20091012adf8239682_167.jpg

Merrell.com

[BlackhawkCY]

Lowa Zephyr Desert GTX® Hight cut Weight Per Pair 2.40 lbs

price 139€

where did you find the high cut version the website only has the mid cut http://www.lowaboots.com/catalog/catalog.cfm?category=8

[SinfulSaint]

hey all,
need help on altama's laces. black or desert colored nylon standard altama issued laces. been looking around for an extra pair, but don't know who makes them!? they're round, thin, hard surface and somehow ribbed. great tie cord, don't come undone.

any info on the manufacturer is appreciated.

best.

vlaho

[Soldat_Américain]

Just get para cord

[siquq]

Any Canadian Forces members: what warm weather commercial boot can I get away with wearing?

I searched, but if you know of a post on this topic, please direct me to it.

[TacoDelRio]

Just get para cord

I second this. One tip: double knot it very firmly, as the nylon sheath of 550 is slippery.

[tactical73]

where did you find the high cut version the website only has the mid cut http://www.lowaboots.com/catalog/catalog.cfm?category=8


http://www.tactical73.eu/ita/dettaglio.lasso?art=462

[SinfulSaint]

I second this. One tip: double knot it very firmly, as the nylon sheath of 550 is slippery.

that's why i like altama's stock laces. non-slippery, firm and stays in place! don't know where to get them...

[Roy Batty]

Any Canadian Forces members: what warm weather commercial boot can I get away with wearing?

I searched, but if you know of a post on this topic, please direct me to it.

It all depends on your chain of command. Most units are good with SWATs.....

[BlackhawkCY]

http://www.tactical73.eu/ita/dettaglio.lasso?art=462

thanks, any chance of having them in black?

[Soldat_Américain]

that's why i like altama's stock laces. non-slippery, firm and stays in place! don't know where to get them...

Yeah...and 550 cord is the stuff of gods, so go with para cord.

[tactical73]

thanks, any chance of having them in black?

I have asked to the Lowa, for now only desert

[BlackhawkCY]

ok thanks a lot

[Sc!zO]

Hello all!

Can anyone recognize these ones:
http://img695.imageshack.us/img695/9420/whatbrand.jpg

Thanks!

[G3SG1]

not a military boot but i bought a pair of Herman Survivors many years ago and still is in good shape.

[Swed]

Hi

I would like to know if anyone can help me identify this pair of boots:

http://i895.photobucket.com/albums/ac155/XTCADAMANT/107319006_full.jpg

The seller from the website told me he doesn't know anything about it.



They look like Brumese military boots.

[STEPAN1983]

Hello all!

Can anyone recognize these ones:
http://img695.imageshack.us/img695/9420/whatbrand.jpg

Thanks!

Remindes me Salomon boots I had in the past

[Loskop]

They look like Brumese military boots.
look like brit 1950's to 1970's jungle boots

[PUG]

Bought myself some Gucci Lowa Mountains.

http://img38.imageshack.us/img38/1950/photo2dg.jpg

Good boots but tore up my heels first time up the hills.

[Rabbity]

I know someone on here has the Nike SFB's are the soles slip resistant?

[Paveway]

Anyone here with experience with 5.11 HRT Advanced boots?

[Mugg21B]

Just received a pair of Danner Terra Force X boots. Haven't had a chance to try them in the field yet, but so far, they've been very comfortable and no major issues with them. Worst part is they're a bit tough to put on, but I ordered them in the size that I thought would fit best (12) rather than what normally get (13 - I think i'm a 12.5 in reality), so they might just need to be broken in. Seem very durable - I'll see how they hold up in pre-mob training.

[stuntman]

A little off topic (well sort of) Does anyone know how to eliminate heel slip in a pair of boots that actually fit properly?

[BlackhawkCY]

try adding another sole in or replace the current one with one of those sport ones

[James]

A little off topic (well sort of) Does anyone know how to eliminate heel slip in a pair of boots that actually fit properly?

If you have heel slip I think the boots don't actually fit properly. Do you have narrow feet? Are your boots good for length but questionable in width?

You might try some Superfeet green insoles, but that's a $35 experiment that might not be a fix...

[isrousro]

You might try a pair of Danner Airthotic inserts, around $15. I have narrow heels and the inserts work for me.

[Nickchios]

Two interesting links....:)

New Oakley water boots

http://militarytimes.com/blogs/gearscout/2010/01/04/spy-shots-of-oakleys-new-water-shoe/

A very useful guide to find the correct boot size when ordering online for men and women.

http://airsoftinformations.blogspot.com/2010/01/boot-size-guide-men.html

hope it is not a re-post....:)

[Kap]

Two interesting links....:)

New Oakley water boots

http://militarytimes.com/blogs/gearscout/2010/01/04/spy-shots-of-oakleys-new-water-shoe/

A very useful guide to find the correct boot size when ordering online for men and women.

http://airsoftinformations.blogspot.com/2010/01/boot-size-guide-men.html

hope it is not a re-post....:)

Airsoft information and websites stay in the airsoft section. KTHX.

[Nickchios]

Airsoft information and websites stay in the airsoft section. KTHX.

Ok, of course, but the links are about boots....

If you think it is a problem, i will edit the post....

[Policía Loco]

Anyone know where I can get a pair of patent leather LE duty boots? I've searched on the internet and asked around, but haven't had any luck.

[Laconian]

Anyone know where I can get a pair of patent leather LE duty boots? I've searched on the internet and asked around, but haven't had any luck.

About the only ones I know of were the patent leather Corcorans. Our Honor Guard guys wore them before they switched to motor boots.

[AIRBORNEJOCK]

They look like Brumese military boots.


british jungle boots from the malaya borneo period.

[Soldat_Américain]

I wish I had these when I was in French Guyana


Spy shots of Oakley’s new water shoe combat boot
JANUARY 4TH, 2010 | PRODUCT ANNOUNCEMENT | POSTED BY ROB CURTIS
Oakley is jumping into the maritime ops footwear pool with their newest boot. We got a look at it recently and it looks like a winner for hot weather, jungle and over-the-beach missions. We didn’t get much in the way of details, mostly because it’s still a work in progress.
The large screened holes pass water and sweat while the siping (razor-thin slits in the sole) improve traction in wet conditions. The upper is made from Cordura and a Teflon impregnated leather; and, no, Oakley wouldn’t tell us who the father is. You can ask them at Shot Show later this month when they may bring the shoe out from behind the curtain.http://militarytimes.com/blogs/gearscout/2010/01/04/spy-shots-of-oakleys-new-water-shoe/

http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/picture.php?albumid=1325&pictureid=19202

sole vents

http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/picture.php?albumid=1325&pictureid=19201

[Carib]

Just ordered a pair of Rocky SV2
http://armynavy.ws/rocky/rockym4.jpg

[pascalywood]

i was thinking of getting a pair of those http://www.opsgear.com/PhotoGallery.asp?ProductCode=BH-83BT03BK

Are they good and would i get jacked up for wearing them?

[Roy Batty]

....... would i get jacked up for wearing them?

Unless your RSM is on this forum then asking that question is pointless. I suspect you would have issues with them as the toes dont look like they take a shine........just a guess.

[Soldat_Américain]

i was thinking of getting a pair of those http://www.opsgear.com/PhotoGallery.asp?ProductCode=BH-83BT03BK

Are they good and would i get jacked up for wearing them?

If you're wearing black ones with arid cadpat you would, I've seen some guys with them, haven't heard anything bad about them.

[TDO]

i was thinking of getting a pair of those http://www.opsgear.com/PhotoGallery.asp?ProductCode=BH-83BT03BK

Are they good and would i get jacked up for wearing them?

I have tried those on, and was not impressed in the least. Seemed like a cheap piece of junk Blackhawk boot to me. They do look cool though. :)

[DE_Six]

i was thinking of getting a pair of those http://www.opsgear.com/PhotoGallery.asp?ProductCode=BH-83BT03BK

Are they good and would i get jacked up for wearing them?

Buddy of mine wore the same in brown/tan in the sandbox, said they were pretty good, within the limitations of that kind of footwear (light assault boot).

The standards were a bit more relaxed, in the end, it's up to the individuals in your c of c.

[BlackFlag]

Anyone know of any good sales going on? I'm looking for a cheap pair of boots ($50-$100) for some hiking/camping, and I'm not savvy with which online distributors are best to go through for footwear.

[Soldat_Américain]

ask taco about trail runners and what he can dig up

[BlackFlag]

Ok, I think I found the pair I want. They're the Rocky 1024. Botach has them on clearance for $49.99. I have no experience with Rocky, are they decent? Crap?


http://www.botachtactical.com/ro10me8stsm.html

[Bacon]

I'd avoid botach.

http://www.lapolicegear.com/boots.html

[Valkyries]

has anyone tried out the Merrell Chameleon 3 Ventilator Mids?

[BlackFlag]

Just got my Rocky 1024 cold weather boots today from Botach..

Que the shi**y cell phone pic:
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y35/IronCross1985/boots.jpg

$49.99 on clearance. They even let me enter the 'stimulus' coupon code for an additional ten percent off!

They're really nice, and even after shipping the total cost was under $60. I highly recommend them if you're looking for some cold weather boots.

There's a link to the page a few posts back. (#1840)

[Laconian]

Just got a pair of these today:

http://img138.imageshack.us/img138/812/tkhtm48.jpg (http://img138.imageshack.us/i/tkhtm48.jpg/)

They were cut generously in width: I usually wear a 10W but these are a 10R and are plenty roomy. And comfy from the get-go. I wore them all day and on a range. They stayed comfortable all day. I think they will become my range/raid boots in place of the 5.11 Desert HRTs, which I really didn't like.

[BlackFlag]

^

What model are they?

[Laconian]

^

What model are they?

Desert Tan V-Trax
Style # 80020-001

[Sato]

I have a question regarding boot maintenance;

What do you guys use to blacken gore-tex boots? I use Lowa active cream (http://www.blueblizz.com/outdoor/outdoorkleding/schoen-onderhoud/lowa-active-creme-75ml/a10181/) every now and then after cleaning. But now I would like to make them black again. I was told not to use ordinary shoe polish as to not clog the membrane and I can't seem to find a suitable shoe polish.

Any tips?

[HCV]

These are no longer made (at least by Altama), the Panama sole having been replaced by the lug sole. The lug sole is one of the worst ever designed, so I'm trying to find some with the old Panama sole new or as-new -- any help? Note that I'm not looking for the leather/nylon jungle boots, but the genuine all-leather type. I already tried dozens of internet haunts and even asked Altama themselves, to no avail . . . Thanks!

Cheers

HANS

[Lord Helmet]

Questions for the guys who have been in Helmand and the area, what would be the best pair of boots i could get for that environment? I'm deploying there in June. I've seen some guys from a different unit wearing non USMC regulation boots so i'm thinking about giving it a shot and getting some before deployment. I'm an 03 so I'll be putting them to use... a lot.

[Roy Batty]

I have a question regarding boot maintenance;

What do you guys use to blacken gore-tex boots? I use Lowa active cream (http://www.blueblizz.com/outdoor/outdoorkleding/schoen-onderhoud/lowa-active-creme-75ml/a10181/) every now and then after cleaning. But now I would like to make them black again. I was told not to use ordinary shoe polish as to not clog the membrane and I can't seem to find a suitable shoe polish.

Any tips?

http://www.armyissue.com/cube/index.php?act=viewProd&productId=739

[Roy Batty]

Questions for the guys who have been in Helmand and the area, what would be the best pair of boots i could get for that environment? I'm deploying there in June. I've seen some guys from a different unit wearing non USMC regulation boots so i'm thinking about giving it a shot and getting some before deployment. I'm an 03 so I'll be putting them to use... a lot.

Hunt up some Meindl Desert Fox's. I humped alot of miles in mine over there and I love the hell out of them.

[Soldat_Américain]

New Balance bought OTB, should be good now since New Balance and Nike will be competing.

[glaterza_arg]

my Blackhawk Desert ops during patrol in Haiti. It was quite hot, but they worked well. Comfortable and cool. When it rained, everything turned to mud, so I used standard Jungle boots. Better grip, and easier to clean! with four to six 2 hour patrols a Day, you don´t want to waste precious rest time brushing the mud out of the rugged leather of the deserts´s.

http://i448.photobucket.com/albums/qq204/hk3172/P6200022.jpg

[Corrupt]

Question for all the Brits out there really. I tend to use my issued Assault Boots for pretty much every field thing I attend with the RAF and I never have any real problems (feet stay dry and blister free pretty much) yes Im seeing a sudden vogue among mates to buy gucci other boots.
Is there anything actually diabolically bad about the issued ones or are they just wasting money/have sensitive feet?

[ZZEZ]

http://www.timberland.com/product/index.jsp?productId=1774487&cp=1762199.3762135&int_prevBucket=-1&showSizeSearch=false&pageBucket=0&hasPagination=false&doVSearch=no&int_nextBucket=0&pageNum=1&pageDisplay=superfamily&pageType=family&page_bucket=0&pageCount=4&page=2&totalProductsCount=65&parentPage=family

What do the gentlemen here think about it?

[Laconian]

http://www.timberland.com/product/index.jsp?productId=1774487&cp=1762199.3762135&int_prevBucket=-1&showSizeSearch=false&pageBucket=0&hasPagination=false&doVSearch=no&int_nextBucket=0&pageNum=1&pageDisplay=superfamily&pageType=family&page_bucket=0&pageCount=4&page=2&totalProductsCount=65&parentPage=family

What do the gentlemen here think about it?

For what purpose?

[ZZEZ]

For what purpose?

Replacement for the IDF army boot[horrible - anything is better then it], won't be used to much as I don't do much nowdays, beside that I wanna use it for trip after the army[mountain climbing etc].

[Carib]

http://i50.tinypic.com/30coqrm.jpg
Anyone know what kind of boots the soldier (with boonie hat/tattoo on neck) on the right is wearing?

[lunte]

Who makes the hats?

[lunte]

Question for all the Brits out there really. I tend to use my issued Assault Boots for pretty much every field thing I attend with the RAF and I never have any real problems (feet stay dry and blister free pretty much) yes Im seeing a sudden vogue among mates to buy gucci other boots.
Is there anything actually diabolically bad about the issued ones or are they just wasting money/have sensitive feet?

You probably have a point to some extent that people are just being weak or fashion sensitive. However I find issued boots a fairly low quality once you really start to use them. For office wear perfect but once you go tabbing, get wet, start running, wear them for days on end they tend to be no good. My favorite ones are Lowa Combat GTX. They are a great boot at a reasonable price and they will definitely do the job much better or for dessert I go for the Lowa Elite Desert which is a great warm weather boot!

Hope this helps

[lunte]

http://i50.tinypic.com/30coqrm.jpg
Anyone know what kind of boots the soldier (with boonie hat/tattoo on neck) on the right is wearing?


They look a bit like Oakleys...

[Swed]

Looks like converse boots.

[Soldat_Américain]

Oakleys...looks like the major may be wearing some HAIX boots.

[Roy Batty]

The Major is wearing Meindl Desert Fox's.....I've touted their virtues about 200 times in this thread. Best boot I have ever owned (and I've tried over a a dozen different boots ).

[Munifex]

I am the happy owner of a Hanwag Special Force GTX boots. I wanted to ask if some official manning armed forces or any police agency, besides the user view a forum on them. I have noticed that many Swedish and German policemen wear boots like those Hanwag (I imagine they are Haix or Meindl). Thank you very much and sorry for the Google translator .-

[Ratamacue]

Got issued a pair of Danner MCWBs and wore them all through CAX at Twentynine Palms. Most comfortable boots I've ever worn. Stayed nice, dry, and warm inside despite getting soaked, and they barely even needed to be broken in out of the box.

[James]

Got issued a pair of Danner MCWBs and wore them all through CAX at Twentynine Palms. Most comfortable boots I've ever worn. Stayed nice, dry, and warm inside despite getting soaked, and they barely even needed to be broken in out of the box.

I've got a pair of Danner Recons I bought in 1998; they are currently the ballz in cold as a witch's tit Afghanistan.

Danners FTW.

[Soldat_Américain]

Got issued a pair of Danner MCWBs and wore them all through CAX at Twentynine Palms. Most comfortable boots I've ever worn. Stayed nice, dry, and warm inside despite getting soaked, and they barely even needed to be broken in out of the box.

I purchased some right after they took them off the online catalog, I'm thinking that the Marine Corps gave the entire contract for their mountain hiker to Danner now since I see so many Marines wearing them.

[Lord Helmet]

I wear bates lights most of the time. Higher says we need to buy our own hot weather boots since theyre providing Danners for temperate weather. I was considering buy a new pair of bates lights for our Helmand deployment. The website says non combat boots but theyre soooo comfortable. Would you guys give me the good to go for another set of bates lights or should i get something else?

I can only buy boots with the EGA.

[Ratamacue]

I purchased some right after they took them off the online catalog, I'm thinking that the Marine Corps gave the entire contract for their mountain hiker to Danner now since I see so many Marines wearing them.As far as I can tell, the MCWBs are only being issued to Marines deploying to Afghanistan, and we were told they're only authorized for garrison wear while prepping for deployment. Kind of stupid. Haven't seen them in the PX either. But I would gladly buy another pair if I could.

Helmet, the problem with the Bates Lights is that they'll fall apart under heavy usage. Like, say, a deployment to Helmand Province. I would go with a regular pair of hot weather Bates, Bellevilles, or Danners. Personally, I prefer Danners, because despite how expensive and heavy they are, they're the most comfortable for me and have held up the best.

[Greek soldier]

Personally, I prefer Danners, because despite how expensive and heavy they are, they're the most comfortable for me and have held up the best.

I agree 100%. Danners are top notch. Sometime in the future I'll buy the Recon 8. :-)

[Nickchios]

I agree 100%. Danners are top notch. Sometime in the future I'll buy the Recon 8. :-)

Agreed.....:)

Have a look of a reference to Danner boots and how they are making them.....

Danner commercial videos (http://airsoftinformations.blogspot.com/2010/02/danner-boots.html)

[superr.stu]

Danners FTW.

If i could have *** with any boots on earth, it would be with my 452's...it will be a sad day when they're to the point they can't be used anymore.

[Amiel]

Hey guys I'm preparing to go to a pre-military academy in Israel for a year to help prepare me for the army/special ops. The academy does loads of hiking, trekking, camping, and military style training. I need a good boot that will be comfortable for pretty much all of Israel's terrain (except for the Mt. Hermon snow scene hehe). I've heard good things about the Danner desert Eagles but I figured I would ask the pros and military enthusiasts here on the forums.

Thanks,
Amiel :-)

[Gruely]

Nevermind...

[Carib]

ID these boots please...

http://i602.photobucket.com/albums/tt104/vor033/USMC%20-%202/7649f8f7.jpg

[BlackhawkCY]

they look like OTB bushmaster models

[Carib]

^ Thanks u r correct.

http://i50.tinypic.com/30coqrm.jpg

The soldier on the right with the boonie hat seems to be wearing 5.11-TACTICAL XPRT 8" Patrol Boot

[Black Stena]

Hi, guys.
Bought my first desert boots couple of moths ago. They are Croatian made, Jelen 7381 Desert Boots. They were on a discount of about 45$ and a regular price is 155$. So It's a good deal I'd say :D
I'm very satisfied with them for the time being. I haven't tested them on a rainy day yet but they are very comfortable, the laces are great, waterproof, they have never untied on me (you get a pair of laces in the box) Maybe they are a bit bulky and heavy boots but they do keep my feet very warm for a summer boots.

http://img204.imageshack.us/img204/1687/jelen7381tan.jpg

http://img403.imageshack.us/img403/9614/jelen7381tan1.jpg

http://img204.imageshack.us/img204/794/jelen7381tan6.jpg

http://img684.imageshack.us/img684/4649/jelen7381tan7.jpg

http://img62.imageshack.us/img62/3686/jelen7381tan4.jpg

http://img96.imageshack.us/img96/8766/jelen7381tan15.jpg

http://img403.imageshack.us/img403/5758/jelen7381tan10.jpg

http://img96.imageshack.us/img96/2194/jelen7381tan17.jpg

http://img403.imageshack.us/img403/4144/jelen7381tan20.jpg

[Jameten]

They look like Brumese military boots.


I have a pair of those my self, bought them in Malaysia for about 4 USD, the guy I bought them from said they were Chinese jungleboots, but i dont know if thats true

[Nickchios]

Boots in Multicam from Oakley and Belleville are coming........

Link with photos and spec (http://airsoftinformations.blogspot.com/2010/03/multicam-boots.html)

I searched........but sorry if it is re post.

[flanker7]

Are the Bellville ones Gore-Tex lined?

[Nickchios]

Are the Bellville ones Gore-Tex lined?

In the features it is not mentioned.... so i believe they have not GoreTex.
They are around 100 $ boots, the Belleville Kiowa....

[flanker7]

They look good. I hope they have some sort of water-proof and that they are good for long walks ;-)

[G3SG1]

Hi, guys.
Bought my first desert boots couple of moths ago. They are Croatian made, Jelen 7381 Desert Boots. They were on a discount of about 45$ and a regular price is 155$. So It's a good deal

do you have a company link?

[monger]

I was wondering if anyone has any experience with the Bates Tora Boa Alpine Boats? I lve in the Rock Mountains and am looking for a nice boot.
Are the boots worn here the Bates Tora Bora? That's the style that I'm looking for. Thanks for the input.
http:/http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a326/a1cobbs/NSWunit2.jpg

[glaterza_arg]

overall, better than similar civilian ones. (i used boreal granites)
if you use regulars, ask for Wide. You can also adjust better lifting or pulling down the removable tongue. I also changed the laces for paracord without the internal threads. The original ones are too thin. At first, you shouldn´t tie them too tight... wear them loose for about a week, and tie them hard at night.

I used them to climb Mt Lanin (3776 meters). Very good. Excellent support, great abrasion resistance... Used them the whole trip, from approach to summit. stayed perfectly dry
I´ll check for some pics

[glaterza_arg]

Bates Tora Bora

http://i448.photobucket.com/albums/qq204/hk3172/ToraBorasatLaninVolcano.jpg

[G3SG1]

Another question about the GSG9 Adidas boots: Do they work well only in urban environment or you can use them in the field too ?

[Andreas]

Another question about the GSG9 Adidas boots: Do they work well only in urban environment or you can use them in the field too ?

From what ive heard, its more of a in-camp and urban operations boot. Just look at it, would you want to be stomping around in mud, snow and puddles with those?

[G3SG1]

From what ive heard, its more of a in-camp and urban operations boot. Just look at it, would you want to be stomping around in mud, snow and puddles with those?

I thought the same but i have seen old photos of the SAS wearing them in their Survival course. Thank you Andreas

[James]

I thought the same but i have seen old photos of the SAS wearing them in their Survival course. Thank you Andreas

^^^Operative word...

[Catch22]

The GSG9 "oldschool" fetish is still strong among some old dogs. They are good for their task, but far from universal.

[HK in AK]

I did a search of this thread and didn't find anything about the Blackhawk Warrior boots. I was wondering if anyone had experience with these boots carrying medium to heavy load over rocky terrain. Looking at boots, and thanks to all for posting information about the gear they have used. My feet greatly appreciate it.


http://www.blackhawk.com/product/Warrior-Wear-Black-Ops-Boots,1063,20.htm

[glaterza_arg]

I did a search of this thread and didn't find anything about the Blackhawk Warrior boots. I was wondering if anyone had experience with these boots carrying medium to heavy load over rocky terrain. Looking at boots, and thanks to all for posting information about the gear they have used. My feet greatly appreciate it.


http://www.blackhawk.com/product/Warrior-Wear-Black-Ops-Boots,1063,20.htm



No go. Sole is too soft, your feet twists all over. Used them in the ranges around Gonaïves, Haiti. Think of them as 8" nikes.

[glaterza_arg]

http://i448.photobucket.com/albums/qq204/hk3172/DSC01753.jpg
A halt during the climb of Morne Bienac, Gonaïves. Only around 300 or 400 meters over sea level, but it´s quite hot, humid, steep and rocky. Beautiful to take the platoon there, fith full armor and ammo ;) Anything necessary to make fun of those lazy army guys!

Blackhawk boots not good for this kind of stuff.

[Laconian]

Another question about the GSG9 Adidas boots: Do they work well only in urban environment or you can use them in the field too ?

I am not a fan of the Adidas GSG9s. They are OK for dry urban type ops (warrant service, etc.), however for rough or field duty they are a bad fit. Also, on wet pavement/concrete they are really slick.


I did a search of this thread and didn't find anything about the Blackhawk Warrior boots. I was wondering if anyone had experience with these boots carrying medium to heavy load over rocky terrain. Looking at boots, and thanks to all for posting information about the gear they have used. My feet greatly appreciate it.


http://www.blackhawk.com/product/Warrior-Wear-Black-Ops-Boots,1063,20.htm

I agree with glaterza that they are too light/soft for rigorous field work with medium or heavier loads. I prefer a more solid platform, like a Danner Acadia, even though they are a heavy boot.

[HK in AK]

Thank you for the assistance. Saved me from wasting money, and more importantly from having banged up feet. I will take a look at the Danner line. I have worn them in the past, but was looking at other options. I guess I should just stick with what worked in the past.

Mucho gracias.

[BlackhawkCY]

belleville are also a good alternative

[G3SG1]

these boots have good sales in Greece the last years but i have read reviews only by airsofters. They are German made and cost from 65-100 Euros. Any insight about their use in rough terrains welcomed.

http://www.starforce.info/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=4&Itemid=

[Greek soldier]

these boots have good sales in Greece the last years but i have read reviews only by airsofters. They are German made and cost from 65-100 Euros. Any insight about their use in rough terrains welcomed.

http://www.starforce.info/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=4&Itemid=

Good only for urban environment. Police officers wear them. For rough terrains, look for other alternatives like Bates, 511, Original SWAT or ELMON SWAT (Greek company).

The other option is save money and buy Haix or Lowa Boots.

Danners IMHO is the best investment.

[G3SG1]

Good only for urban environment. Police officers wear them. For rough terrains, look for other alternatives like Bates, 511, Original SWAT or ELMON SWAT (Greek company).

The other option is save money and buy Haix or Lowa Boots.

Danners IMHO is the best investment.


Thanks GS. Which Danner model you say?

The ELMON SWAT is a Greek boot?

[BlackhawkCY]

these boots have good sales in Greece the last years but i have read reviews only by airsofters. They are German made and cost from 65-100 Euros. Any insight about their use in rough terrains welcomed.

http://www.starforce.info/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=4&Itemid=

Friend of mine had one of their models... they seem to be built around the same type of quality as original swat


Good only for urban environment. Police officers wear them. For rough terrains, look for other alternatives like Bates, 511, Original SWAT or ELMON SWAT (Greek company).

The other option is save money and buy Haix or Lowa Boots.

Danners IMHO is the best investment.

I would agree on danners and belleville for rough terrains. Lowa , 5.11 and Bates only if you want a good balance between rough terrain/urban ops

[DivingEngineer]

Gday Guys

This seems the 'it' place to ask about boots, just chasing advice/ideas/opinions.

Well ive had a pair of 'Fireant mid' (http://www.legear.com.au/fireant-boots-australia-zealand-s/86.htm)
boots for about 1yr now.

I got given them new from a cousin and have been hiking/other associated adventures in them since. They have been good boots, not uncomfortable, not ungrippy but not outstanding either.....anyway now they are falling apart although in all fairness i have been very harsh to them.
I will try and fix the boots and hopefully then have them as a backup pair.

Seeing as how i just got given them i dont have any idea what else is out there.
Also most of my experience with 'adventure' stores is listening to some wanker who most probably doesnt do any 'actual' hiking trying to sell you expensive crap.

So just after any advice you guys might have.

I would most likely be using the boots for/what i would like in a boot:

- 1-8day hikes. Often shin deep mud/water for long periods(8hrs). Waterproof in these cases just mean they dont let water out....
- All warmish temp hikes 15c-40c
- Grippy and hardwearing
- Im not chasing military specific boots but would like them to be heavy duty.
- Would like the next pair to be 'mid' height.
- Not fussed on the weight (my pack/climbing rack is allready stuppidly heavy)
- Dont mind paying a bit extra for 'quality'
- Good ankle support (often do 1day long river hikes- in very ankle unfriendly rivers)

Cheers

My falling apart 'Fire ants'
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y194/Madpaj/IMG_2647.jpg
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y194/Madpaj/IMG_2649.jpg

[Greek soldier]

Thanks GS. Which Danner model you say?

The ELMON SWAT is a Greek boot?

Danner Recon with Gore Tex and 200g Thinsulate insulation. In Greece it costs 300 Euros. For winter time it's THE boot.

Yes, ELMON SWAT is Greek. The same company that manufactures the ELMON bulletproof vests.

[BlackhawkCY]

Gday Guys

This seems the 'it' place to ask about boots, just chasing advice/ideas/opinions.

Well ive had a pair of 'Fireant mid' (http://www.legear.com.au/fireant-boots-australia-zealand-s/86.htm)
boots for about 1yr now.

I got given them new from a cousin and have been hiking/other associated adventures in them since. They have been good boots, not uncomfortable, not ungrippy but not outstanding either.....anyway now they are falling apart although in all fairness i have been very harsh to them.
I will try and fix the boots and hopefully then have them as a backup pair.

Seeing as how i just got given them i dont have any idea what else is out there.
Also most of my experience with 'adventure' stores is listening to some wanker who most probably doesnt do any 'actual' hiking trying to sell you expensive crap.

So just after any advice you guys might have.

I would most likely be using the boots for/what i would like in a boot:

- 1-8day hikes. Often shin deep mud/water for long periods(8hrs). Waterproof in these cases just mean they dont let water out....
- All warmish temp hikes 15c-40c
- Grippy and hardwearing
- Im not chasing military specific boots but would like them to be heavy duty.
- Would like the next pair to be 'mid' height.
- Not fussed on the weight (my pack/climbing rack is allready stuppidly heavy)
- Dont mind paying a bit extra for 'quality'
- Good ankle support (often do 1day long river hikes- in very ankle unfriendly rivers)

Cheers

My falling apart 'Fire ants'


Your probably going to have to decide if by non waterproof you mean not goretex or more like jungle boots to let water in and out easily. Keep in mind most goretex boots that are of thin lining tend to dry quite fast. The ones you have seem to be of a medium/soft sole? similar to the original swat and 5.11 models.

mid height boots are around 6 inches.
similar to your design i have the oakleys and the lowa Zephyr GTX. Id avoid safety toe ones since they tend to be unfit for long marches

[Policía Loco]

Anyone have any experience with Danner boots?

[DivingEngineer]

Your probably going to have to decide if by non waterproof you mean not goretex or more like jungle boots to let water in and out easily. Keep in mind most goretex boots that are of thin lining tend to dry quite fast. The ones you have seem to be of a medium/soft sole? similar to the original swat and 5.11 models.

mid height boots are around 6 inches.
similar to your design i have the oakleys and the lowa Zephyr GTX. Id avoid safety toe ones since they tend to be unfit for long marches

Thanks mate.
Jungle type boots sound like a good idea, Although ive never had anyboots with goretex---is it really worth the extra coin??

- im just after a do everything boot (i know that doesnt help much) .

I had a quick internet look at the oakley and iowa boots you mentioned and im going to see if theres anywhere around here i can go and try them on.

Anyone have experience with salomon boots? Ive got a pair of their trail shoes i use for adventure races and they have been faultless so far- so was contemplating a pair of there boots.
http://www.salomon.com/au/#/footwear/footwear/hiking/elios-2-mid-gtxm

Cheers

[HR24]

Anyone have any experience with Danner boots?

Expensive, but worth the money. If you can make it through the break-in period, you are golden.

[James]

Anyone have any experience with Danner boots?

You obviously haven't ridden much of this thread. Try searching next time.

[flanker7]

I've ordered a pair of Kiowas from Belleville in Tan. Some friends have them and I've hert only good things about them, comfort-wise

[SOD]

I have 2 pairs of Bellevilles, 790 series.Gore-tex,1 pr black,1pr tan.
Good outta the box,no problems at all.
Let us know how yours turn out.

[flanker7]

I have a pair of 700TLS for years now. A bit heavy but other than thad solid as a rock. We are issued the 700V model, or something like that

[BlackhawkCY]

Thanks mate.
Jungle type boots sound like a good idea, Although ive never had anyboots with goretex---is it really worth the extra coin??

- im just after a do everything boot (i know that doesnt help much) .

I had a quick internet look at the oakley and iowa boots you mentioned and im going to see if theres anywhere around here i can go and try them on.

Anyone have experience with salomon boots? Ive got a pair of their trail shoes i use for adventure races and they have been faultless so far- so was contemplating a pair of there boots.
http://www.salomon.com/au/#/footwear/footwear/hiking/elios-2-mid-gtxm

Cheers

Mate its LOWA not sure if iowa's exist. Well goretex does have benefits but they are better understood with heavier lining boots. Its similar to wearing a good quality rain jacket vs a plastic bag. You don't sweat as much and your skin breathes. Note there are boots that have similar technologies goretex is just a brand name. Also depending on where you use them u might want to think of polished leather vs nubuck leather vs synthetic material. The LOWA's have a mixture of nubuck and synthetic hence dry faster but are not as heavy duty as a military boot.

I found that most boots will dry quite fast if you wear while walking in them with dry socks and once they get soaked change them with another pair. At 4 pairs the boot seems quite dry.

Soles are also important. High quality brands use specialized soles that offer better grip or have them sorted depending on the activity you'll be using them. eg Soft to medium for urban/sports or medium/hard for hiking.

You might also want to look at asolo /north face and Salomon if you do not mind more colorful shoes.

OTB boots make some more advance jungle type boots but i cannot tell you of how good quality they are.

[Dragonscript]

Anyone have any advice on how to repair a split sole on a pair of boots? I have a set of Bates 50501 that are less than a year old and the left sole has split, I've tried regular epoxy and Shoe Goo but neither kept the split sealed. The boots are still usable but i would rather have them fixed.

[James]

Anyone have any advice on how to repair a split sole on a pair of boots? I have a set of Bates 50501 that are less than a year old and the left sole has split, I've tried regular epoxy and Shoe Goo but neither kept the split sealed. The boots are still usable but i would rather have them fixed.

I think you need to get them re-soled (http://www.nushoe.com/product_lines/usmc.htm).

[Dragonscript]

I think you need to get them re-soled (http://www.nushoe.com/product_lines/usmc.htm).

That was my backup plan but now it looks like that there is no other option other than to do that. Our unit is going to be issuing steel toe boots *soon*, so when i got those i'll send these pair in for repair. Thanks anyway.


*soon* as defined by USMCR.

[Vintz]

I thought the same but i have seen old photos of the SAS wearing them in their Survival course. Thank you Andreas


I've wore a pair out on the ground for the best part or three years. Most of the time they're outstanding. Waters not an issue, just wear seal skinz and you'll be laughing. They've never given me a moments trouble. This is regards the Classic version. The newer version are horrid. Bates have a similar boot that's also pretty good too.

Out of all the boots I own, these I hold in high regard. These and my 10 year old Meindl Army that I have since day zero and still like new. Will be working in warmer climate from now on so I decided to get the Tactical Research Kiowa in Tan a go. So far so good anyways. Will be bringing a conventional pair of Bellville 300 Desert that I've got knocking around also.

Just in case..

[Lawdog-1]

I can't find any Info or Review of Oakly boots. Ho comfortable arethey and how do their hold up?

[flanker7]

IMO they are very comfortable but not very tough. Nor durable also.
I took a swim with them and then forgot them in the sun(to dry) and all the sole came off...

[Vintz]

IMO they are very comfortable but not very tough. Nor durable also.
I took a swim with them and then forgot them in the sun(to dry) and all the sole came off...

A few of our guys have tried Oakleys. Yes, comfortable. Very. At first they loved them. But soon this opinion changed as soon as the sole started to seperate over the heel. They don;t seem to take humping heavy loads over distance all too well. Particularly when the weather is hot and humid. A no go for me.

Stick with something tried and tested. Or at least something from a company with a long track record of making quality hard wearing gear. Danner, Lowe, Haix, Bellville even Converse but to name a few...

[Soldat_Américain]

If you buy the ones from Oakley's military website they won't separate as the sole is sewn all the way around. You may have had Gen 1s.

[James]

I've seen and heard of similar troubles with the Oakley's quite a few times. They're basically urban assault boots, good for getting out of a vehicle, standing around for a while, maybe kicking a door, and then back to the car. They're nothing more than beefed up running shoes, hardly the thing to wear humping 100 lbs around in the Hindu Kush.

[Bacon]

Debating between the OTB Desertlite and the Meindl Desert Safari boots.

[Albatross]

http://img220.imageshack.us/img220/8707/shoes2h.jpg
http://img98.imageshack.us/img98/8449/shoeswo.jpg

just picked these up, had the gtx boot for almost 6 years. Best boot I have ever owned, sure I made a solid purchase.

[TacoDelRio]

I gotta get me a pair of Vibram Five Fingers...

[FenderJoshBass]

I've been using this pair of Merrells for a few months. I have to say that they're easily the best set of footwear I've ever owned. They're mesh-lined so they keep you feet cool in our San Diego climate but that means they're not water resistant at all.
116585

[GETSOME]

I have a pair of leather boots which i havnt worn for a couple of years,they are dry and hard ,is there any way i can soften the leather ,make it supple?

[BlackhawkCY]

use the one boot and bash it on the other :P similar to as if they where brand new... that will fix the "hard" part but if they are very dry that might crack the leather :(

[tercio67]

You could use shoe grease to soften the leather.
http://www.huberds.com/Home.html

[glaterza_arg]

I have a pair of leather boots which i havnt worn for a couple of years,they are dry and hard ,is there any way i can soften the leather ,make it supple?

Old leather boots, as women, tend to loosen with a little alcohol... :grin:

Use some cotton embedded with alcohol. Not much!

[BlackhawkCY]

i have the same ones in greyish... solid shoe dries fast and has a good grip i would agree on your purchase

[Greek soldier]

I have a pair of leather boots which i havnt worn for a couple of years,they are dry and hard ,is there any way i can soften the leather ,make it supple?

There are several options:

1) Put them on boiled water or

2) Apply some grease (by hand) or

3) The Army way

[GETSOME]

^^^^
Thanks for all the tips guys.
The boots are really dry in some places,a few small cracks have appeared,so a type of oil to restore the leather looks the way to go.
I could always try the WWII German method to soften new boots by pissing in them,but i dont think i could handle the smell:)

[Soldat_Américain]

1st get some saddle soap, then get some leather oil.

[PathFindeR[BE]]

http://img220.imageshack.us/img220/8707/shoes2h.jpg
http://img98.imageshack.us/img98/8449/shoeswo.jpg

just picked these up, had the gtx boot for almost 6 years. Best boot I have ever owned, sure I made a solid purchase.
I always feel as if my ankles are vulnerable in these types of low shoe. They look good for your average civilian walk, but i prefer a boot above the ankle.
What's your personal experience with these types?

[BlackhawkCY]

i use them for outdoor running mostly since they have a good grip.

[TacoDelRio]

;4880225']I always feel as if my ankles are vulnerable in these types of low shoe. They look good for your average civilian walk, but i prefer a boot above the ankle.
What's your personal experience with these types?

Can't say much I guess, since I wore boots like everyone else in the Army, but...

I wear trailrunners all the time in the mountains. Lots of folks wear boots, saying the same thing you said regarding ankles and twisting them or whatnot. I think I had problems with rolling/twisting my ankles when I switched, but after a bit, your ankles strenghten up or some crap and it's a complete non-issue. I've not hurt my ankles since I switched from boots (back when I hurt my ankles more).

In my opinion, boots are extremely highly over-rated for nearly all activities. They're rather a bit of a tradition more than something that actually enhances one's performance.
Your mileage may vary.

If that was all worded funny, I apologize. I'm not good with words.

[BlackhawkCY]

i think boots are high to protect from vegetation, sticks etc or in nowadays too much sand getting in. Although they do offer protection from ankle twisting they shouldn't be constantly worn else your ankle muscles get weak. It is similar to not training a specific muscle, after a while it stops performing as well.

[PathFindeR[BE]]

But with a high boot u still use your ankle, its not that after you use boots your whole life on the age of 36 your ankles are pudding?
I prefer boots for blackhawks first reason, against thorns en vegetation.

thx for the response

[ProPatria]

I just got my old issued boots redone, the old soles on them didn't hold up to well on my last tour, we'll see how they do now.
http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a255/02MiniMan/DSC00045.jpg

[Albatross]

;4880225']I always feel as if my ankles are vulnerable in these types of low shoe. They look good for your average civilian walk, but i prefer a boot above the ankle.
What's your personal experience with these types?

Great for what I do, which is light hiking maybe a few overnighters. I wouldn't take them up a mountain, or a crap trail. Need more ankle support than that for anything medium and up.

[TacoDelRio]

Want to keep crap out of the tops of yer shoes? Get some trail gaiters (http://www.rei.com/product/782776).

I've climbed a sh*tload of mountaineering routes, in winter, with trail runners. I actually don't know many top-end mountain athletes who wear "hiking boots". Boots are usually limited to hard alpine routes, extreme cold, and ice climbing.

My favorite shoes for just about pretty much everything are the Salomon XA Pro 3D GTX (http://www.backcountry.com/outdoorgear/Salomon-XA-Pro-3D-Ultra-GTX-Trail-Running-Shoe-Mens/SAL1398M.html) (GTX - Goretex)
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y222/TacoDelRio/DSCF0049.jpg
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y222/TacoDelRio/DSCF0207.jpg
Waterproof, but being a lowtop they don't heat up that bad in the desert when it's 100+ and you're running around. Their being Goretex lined keeps them and your feet dry when working around shallow water or any amount of snow (provided you have gaiters for the snow, assuming it's above the ankle).

A buddy and I have done one of the longest mountaineering routes in the world in trail runners. 10,000ft of gain over dirt, rock, ice, and endless snow in 15 hours...
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y222/TacoDelRio/P3170658.jpg

That feeling of "vulnerability" goes away.
That said, of course climbing, mountaineering, trail running, and all activities outdoors and off trail aren't the same as combat. Some folks complain about a lack of support when carrying heavy loads, though a pair of good insoles (superfeet) often times fixes that.

As always, YMMV.


Cheers, yo.

[tactical73]

Lowa Zephyr GTX Hi TF Desert boots on military morons (http://www.militarymorons.com/equipment/footwear.html#zephyr)

[Lawdog-1]

Please tell me which hiking,trail boots, Oris or Garmont are more comfortable, holdup the best?

[tactical73]

if you want the best made in USA, is new Wellco Hibryd Hiker ;-)

[TacoDelRio]

Please tell me which hiking,trail boots, Oris or Garmont are more comfortable, holdup the best?

Oris? Who the hell?

[TacoDelRio]

Not boots, not quite shoes either. Vibram Five Fingers. Just got them tonight, and took them for a short 6 mile night hike. I dig.

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y222/TacoDelRio/P4161996.jpg

[Soldat_Américain]

Sweet barefoot shoes, I've been thinking to get some. Want something to put on my feet to go swimming in the river.

[TacoDelRio]

I haven't done any swimming with them yet, but last night I crossed a stream in them. After that, a seam where my big toe hits the foot (1st knuckle?) made the skin a little raw. Gonna hafta figure that out. Might end up getting a pair of Injinji socks for them, though that kinda kills the whole simplicity concept, in a way.

[gaijinsamurai]

Just remember to post a pic of your BIG SOCKS.

[TacoDelRio]

Or ****.

lolololololk

[gaijinsamurai]

I think that's supposed to be in the Thompson SMG thread.

[Soldat_Américain]

Taco tends to be mentally impaired at times...

[digrar]

Or ****.

lolololololk

I thought you had a rabit avatar there for a second, I thought to myself, that doesn't sound like Murus.

How firm are the soles on those 5 fingers?

[TacoDelRio]

Star Wars much? ;-)

The soles aren't stiff at all. They've got these kinda zig zag patterns cut into them for grip, like a Gekko's feet or some crap. I guess they help, but I haven't really tested em' enough. Got a BIGASS test for them from 0400 til who knows when today... a loooooootta crap.

They're truly like gloves for your feet, only slightly stiffer than normal gloves that sane people wear on their hands.

[one-niner]

I need some advice on Meindl boots. I've had my Island Pros for years now and I absolutely love them, but it's time for a replacement. Originally, I bought them for civvy use, but I've used them more and more at work lately, and for that use I'd prefer a slightly higher boot. So far I've spotted the following Meindl candidates:
- Army Gore (same height as the Island?)
- Army Pro (looks very high)
- Performance (looks like somewhere in between the above boots in height)
- Combat S3 (as above but with a metal sole insert, oil and gas resistant)

Anyone tried any of the listed boots AND the Island Pro/MFS?

[IDF_TANKER]

Question, people:

http://i249.photobucket.com/albums/gg211/froimv/Military/roytlhfkjvjy.png

These Belleville's appear to be new IDF infantry boots (boots on right and left seem to be slightly different models, I'm not sure which one). Anyone has experience with them, any reviews?

[Soldat_Américain]

I just got a pair of the Belleville 310s(ones on the right) in a 7.5. I would get a different Sole for them as the one that comes with it doesn't have much arch support. Different than Oakleys as they feel like a running shoe right out of the box. These you have to put some miles on them a little bit but they feel pretty good now. Also the 310s are along the trail running type of boot that Oakley basically started. Belleville has been making footwear for the Army since before WWI.

[IDF_TANKER]

Thanks for the info, Soldat!

[PathFindeR[BE]]

ID of the boots on the left? http://i40.tinypic.com/5vzn93.jpg (http://i40.tinypic.com/5vzn93.jpg)

[BOEK1936]

Maybe I'm mistaken but they look like these Lowa's.

http://www.lowaboots.com/catalog/ShowBoot.cfm?StockNum=2308780411&Category=8&Type=M

I've been looking at these myself! Anyone have first hand experience with this model?

[PathFindeR[BE]]

Yep it's that pair.
They look great and Lowa knowing, they probably are great.

[tactical73]

is the best Lowa Elite Desert ;-)

[scttgillies]

The Lowa desert elite is a nice ,well sought after boot which is well respected as a good all round sturdy piece of kit. And it is issued to Brit forces as well as Meindel and Magnums. Personally i like the older Nu Buck leather boot which is issued to the LECs and terps. But thats just me , a masochist.

[BOEK1936]

I tried the Meindel desert Fox but they were too narrow. A shame considering how well they are constructed. I talked to a Lowa representative the other day and the Lowa Uplander Desert boot will be released in June and will replace the Lowa Desert Seeker. She said it will also come in wide sizes. I wish I could wait for it but I have training going on until August.

Does the Lowa Desert Elite run narrow?

[STEPAN1983]

I have meindl desert fox and I tryed lowa desert elite in the gear shop, it feels the same (width). Looks like you have a very wide foot, maybe you should try wide lowa

[Kvakva]

Have any of you guys had experience with these : OTB Bushmaster, 5.11 tactical ATAC 6'' or zamberlan 'Florence' GT/''Boston''? I heard good stuff about zamberlans, 5.11 i dunno some say it's the best thing others it's ****. Bushmaster sounds good. Need em for extensive walking all other different places and surfaces.

[tactical73]

Lowa Zephyr on my booth in Militalia (Milan,Italy)
http://i240.photobucket.com/albums/ff193/tactical73/30624_395516976937_137319806937_442.jpg
http://i240.photobucket.com/albums/ff193/tactical73/30624_395516681937_137319806937_442.jpg
http://i240.photobucket.com/albums/ff193/tactical73/30624_395516496937_137319806937_442.jpg

the next week in stock High cut version ;-)

[STEPAN1983]

5.11 is urban tactical boots, not for field use

[GrimReaper]

Lowa Zephyr on my booth in Militalia (Milan,Italy)



the next week in stock High cut version ;-)
tactical73, is your store an online-only store? or also with a physical retail front?
I'll be in northern Italy next month and those Zephyrs seem worth a try and a trip to Torino.
Maybe an MP members discount?:lol:

[tactical73]

Pm inbound

[tactical73]

arrived today Hi cut version :-)

[samurai-x]

Im not sure if this question has already been answered but i have checked the thread most of the way through. I have started training with a bergen over hilly ground, the weight is about 25kgs but will no doubt be upped soon. I am currently using my oakley six inch tactical boots which although comfortable are not up to the job.

Which would be the best boot to chose the lowa mountain/combat or the altberg warrior any advice is welcome. thankyou

[BlackhawkCY]

The one that is most comfortable for you to wear. assuming they all feel great choose the one which is lightest, has a good grip, and is most breathable and waterproof.

[Marsh]

Im not sure if this question has already been answered but i have checked the thread most of the way through. I have started training with a bergen over hilly ground, the weight is about 25kgs but will no doubt be upped soon. I am currently using my oakley six inch tactical boots which although comfortable are not up to the job.

Which would be the best boot to chose the lowa mountain/combat or the altberg warrior any advice is welcome. thankyou


Hi Samuria,
Blackhawk is right. I am old and fat now, but both makes are good. You need to check which is best for your feet.
Cheers
Marsh

[samurai-x]

Hi Samuria,
Blackhawk is right. I am old and fat now, but both makes are good. You need to check which is best for your feet.
Cheers
Marsh

Cheers to both of you, i guess im just gonna have to try both out properly, my feet are pretty toughened up now so blisters wont be an issue but my ankles are taking a pounding with my oakleys. thanks for the advice will have to find a shop were they sell both and drive down. Ive seen blokes using strapping on their ankles, do you know what tape they are using and will it make any difference to ankle support?
cheers

[BlackhawkCY]

Cheers to both of you, i guess im just gonna have to try both out properly, my feet are pretty toughened up now so blisters wont be an issue but my ankles are taking a pounding with my oakleys. thanks for the advice will have to find a shop were they sell both and drive down. Ive seen blokes using strapping on their ankles, do you know what tape they are using and will it make any difference to ankle support?
cheers

are you referring to military personnel or campers? what do they strap? as in boots with pants or just around the ankles?

[samurai-x]

are you referring to military personnel or campers? what do they strap? as in boots with pants or just around the ankles?

im reffering to military personnel, ive seen tape strapped around the ankles underneath the socks, i was wondering what this was and how much if any support it provided. obviously it can be used to prevent and cover blisters but can it be used to support the ankle too??

[Soldat_Américain]

taping ankles is different, but I have bad feet so I tape certain spots on my feet with athletic tape and it reduces/prevents blisters.

[BlackhawkCY]

if you have no problem with your feet i see no reason for you taping them. The boot should provide you with enough ankle support

[samurai-x]

Cheers for all the advice guys, i have settled on the altberg warrior and am hoping i wont get blister grief but will tape up just incase, now i just have to drag my sorry arse up those hills p-)

[G3SG1]

124832

Ready to clean a pair of Herman survivors ,bought 'em in 1991 still going strong. Too bad Wal mart bought the original company and ruined the product.

[tactical73]

my customer in Bassora IRAQ Lowa Zephyr and Numa ballistic
http://i240.photobucket.com/albums/ff193/tactical73/Giugno201001.jpg

[Opening Batsman]

arrived today Hi cut version :-)

Just shopping around here, what kind of awesome deal could you do for everybody's favourite Australian forum member. :p I'm looking for something to keep the morale of my feet nice and high when I have to do a lot of walking around in boots for 8 months.

[tactical73]

no problem bro PM inbound ;-)

[Death.]

Hey guys, it's possible that I'll be hired for the oil spill cleanup here in Pensacola, and if I get the job I have to buy myself some boots for the dresscode. The working conditions will be 60 hours a week on soft sand, wet sand on the shoreline, and in 100*F+ weather. They need to be somewhat water proof and something that won't suck to wear for 12 hours a day. I don't want anything black or above 8" in rise, I was going to look for some Belleville 790s in the surplus stores but they don't have them in my sizes, budget is probably $130-150.

[Carib]

http://img263.imageshack.us/img263/2690/xgearvsparaclete.jpg (http://img263.imageshack.us/img263/2690/xgearvsparaclete.jpg)

Boots id please... All three pairs. Just curious is all.

[Fintin]

Boots id please... All three pairs. Just curious is all.


I hope you get raped by a donkey...I really do. How uneventful is your life that someones footwear is of interest to you?

[EJDER]

i have this

http://s52.radikal.ru/i137/1007/8b/dfab27e1b17e.jpg (http://www.radikal.ru)

[Carib]

I hope you get raped by a donkey...I really do. How uneventful is your life that someones footwear is of interest to you?

Im in the military and looking for a boot. Does that answer ur question.

[Pete031]

Looks like that role on Hunters camo.

[PJ187]

can anyone ID the boots on fella closest to the camera?

http://img696.imageshack.us/img696/5169/297201.jpg

[scrybe]

The last two pictures posted look similar to the Merrel Moab (http://www.rei.com/product/788740).

[Hahit]

What can you tell me about the Magnum Scorpion Desert boots (replacement for Amazon series) and the Altama USMC Hot Weather Combat Boots ? They're not extacly in the same price range but they are the gear that could be available to me for purchase.

I am talking about using them in urban/arid environment, potentially rocky such as Djibouti, Chad, etc...

[timothygfowler]

The last two pictures posted look similar to the Merrel Moab (http://www.rei.com/product/788740).

you are so right. very comfy i may add; in extreme desert heat and rocky terrain.

[Valkyries]

you are so right. very comfy i may add; in extreme desert heat and rocky terrain.

not to hot with the gore tex liner?

[timothygfowler]

not to hot with the gore tex liner?

to be perfectly honest man, not at all. well that is just my opinion and i'm just not that picky. i'm all about comfort.

[tactical73]

Army Times

129410

[rhino]

this seems like a right place to ask a question;

my SWATs have served me well, 6 years of bush bashing, and pavement pounding, they are falling appart, I still remember first time I put them on for a big parade for our veterans we did from Sunnybrook Hospital in TO to Exibition Place for VE, I remember because I didnt brake them in beforehand :(
now it seems apropriate to retire them properly, tossing them in the trash can seems ungrateful some how, what would be a right way to do it?

[James]

this seems like a right place to ask a question;

my SWATs have served me well, 6 years of bush bashing, and pavement pounding, they are falling appart, I still remember first time I put them on for a big parade for our veterans we did from Sunnybrook Hospital in TO to Exibition Place for VE, I remember because I didnt brake them in beforehand :(
now it seems apropriate to retire them properly, tossing them in the trash can seems ungrateful some how, what would be a right way to do it?

Tie the laces together and throw them over a power line.