Are the Russians proud of this?

[wulfstan]

Russian fleet ordered into port as it's too dangerous to be at sea... :roll:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/3560249.stm

[radon]

I wait for PermskiiOMON rofl

[Kingpin]

Read here:
http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/viewtopic.php?t=10860

And don't read BBC. This makes you moronic :)

[volfram]

Don't read bbc,read pravda.

[Kingpin]

Don't read bbc,read pravda.

BTW good reading :)

http://english.pravda.ru/

[Ichhabe]

Don't read bbc,read pravda.

BTW good reading :)

http://english.pravda.ru/

Hell yes!!! Specially I just love their forum. They seem to have waaaay better freedom of speech than we got here.

Just take a look at it... Our Slav brothers really have a go here I can see...

http://engforum.pravda.ru/index.php3

[radon]

wtf is this http://english.pravda.ru/science/19/94/378/12092_alien.html

[Ian H]

What's up with the BBC?

[Kingpin]

What's up with the BBC?

BBC gives you one sided view with good percentage of BS. My sentence meant that you shouldn't rely on BBC only.

[Kingpin]

Everyone forgot about Russian fleet while dismissing potential competitors

One of the nation's best (based on the results of 2003), most powerful ships, the nuclear-powered missile cruiser of the Russian Northern Fleet "Peter the Great" is no longer in working condition. The cruiser will spend the next couple of months by the quay wall and its crew will be deprived of one third of its income, the so-called naval financial support. The decision has been announced by Adm. Vladimir Kuroedov without any specific reasons.

"This is a real shock for us," stated a source in the headquarters of the Northern Fleet. "The nuclear missile cruiser has been in action since December of last year. Based on the results of this year's strategic Naval training program (in January-February), which had been closely monitored by Vladimir Putin himself, the missile cruiser received an excellent mark. The ship's commander Vladimir Kasatonov has even been awarded a title of rear-admiral, remark Grani.ru.

"Now, as it turns out, we are given the worst mark of all; and the crew will have to go through additional training in order to correct the situation," declared the admiral.

Adm. Kuroedov had closely watched the crew in the course of the training program "Safety-2004" (10-18 February). Back then, "Peter the Great" had been involved in a fight simulation with the Air Force, while launches from nuclear submarines "Novomoskovsk" and "Karelia" of several ballistic missiles had failed. "Perhaps, back then, Kuroedov had spotted some deviation form the norm in the actions of the crew members," stated one of the sources at the headquarters. President Vladimir Putin, who had been closely watching the training, had made an arrangement to create a special commission and investigate the reasons of failure.

According to the information obtained by "Izvestia", the conflict around the missile cruiser and its crew has evolved not merely because of the crew's incompetence and the cruiser's condition. According to the newspaper source at the Fleet's headquarter, the ship, its crew in particular, has been punished for something admiral's uncle Igor Kasatonov had done.

Rumor has it, that present-day Navy chief Vladimir Kuroedov was enraged by some statements made by Igor Kasatonov, regarding the sinking of the nuclear submarine "Kursk" in 2000.

Intrigues within the fleet's headquarters have moved all the problems of the Russian navy aside.

[Ichhabe]

What's up with the BBC?

BBC gives you one sided view with good percentage of BS. My sentence meant that you shouldn't rely on BBC only.

So what do you rely on then?

[Ian H]

BBC is forced by its charter to be editorially independant. Not always easy or possible, but I for one trust them more than Sky or newspapers.

[Geezah]

The Sun online, BBC online, The Telegraph and while I'm at home Fox News.

[FallenAngel]

LA Times, NY Times and Al Jazeera ;)

You'd be surprised how many times they agree :D

[He219]

Navy Adm. Vladimir Kuroyedov on Tuesday Mach 23, 2004 retracted the comment, saying the nuclear-powered Peter the Great missile cruiser was safe and in no danger.

Face saving or over-reaction?
;)

[George W. Bush]

Pravda is crap just like Al Jazeera is crap.

[fdt]

Navy Adm. Vladimir Kuroyedov on Tuesday Mach 23, 2004 retracted the comment, saying the nuclear-powered Peter the Great missile cruiser was safe and in no danger.

Face saving or over-reaction?
;)Rather an attempt to save his sorry ass.... too late, unconvincing and pityful... Kuroedov is doomed...

[UkrainianAmerican]

I read Wall Street Journal, NY sun, sometimes I watch FOX or CNBC, and sometimes I checkout jpost.com

[Marmot1]

Pravda is crap just like Al Jazeera is crap.

He he do you know that "Pravda" mean Truth in russian (and in polish)

[Haiw]

Pravda is crap just like Al Jazeera is crap.

He he do you know that "Pravda" mean Truth in russian (and in polish)
:lol: Yeah I know... they can't even offer their own title. :D

[He219]

I don't think Adm. Vladimir Kuroyedov determines where Russia's defense funding is allocated. Had he not said something and a disaster had happened - then he would be to blame.

To make him a scapegaot now would be a travesty. His alarm may have averted yet another Russian Nuclear tragedy ...

[Kingpin]

What's up with the BBC?

BBC gives you one sided view with good percentage of BS. My sentence meant that you shouldn't rely on BBC only.

So what do you rely on then?

I read all sources. Russian, Arabic, Western, Eastern. This is only way to figure out the truth

[ßå$tĮТHÏ¿ð]

I've seen some Canadian Navy ships in alot worse shape...they looked easy 1970's era. But we still use em :D

[cut]

Pravda is crap just like Al Jazeera is crap.

just like anything that isn't western is crap :roll:

[intelligenzija]

Pravda is crap just like Al Jazeera is crap.
I think Pravda is equal to the German BILD ( www.bild.de )

Best example:

surprising *****-confession of Anna's lover:
no one is smaller than mine

http://www.bild.t-online.de/BTO/showpromis/startseite/startbuehne,templateId=renderKomplett.html

[UkrainianAmerican]

Pravda is crap just like Al Jazeera is crap.

just like anything that isn't western is crap :roll:
As far as I am concerned the only reliable sources of information are financial ones. They seem to be the most objective and rational.

[cut]

like?

[Kenshin]

Pravda is crap just like Al Jazeera is crap.

just like anything that isn't western is crap :roll:

The truth really hurts so.. give them a break.