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signatory
05-06-2010, 03:07 AM
Brazil. Support from Fiesp

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Federation and the Center for the Industries of the State of São Paulo

G-T.

05/05/2010 - HUNTING

Businessmen support the purchase of Gripen NG

By: Cinthia Isabel (cinthia@abcdmaior.com.br)

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For Correa, companies can take off economically by purchasing the Gripen NG. Photo: Antonio ledes

Director of the Department of Defense Industry Fiesp come out in favor of a plane as one of the most viable options for the country


There is no doubt that the Gripen NG, the Swedish company Saab, is within the concept of technology entrepreneurs who want to Brazil. According to the director of the Department of Defense Indúustria Fiesp (Federation of Industries of São Paulo), José Augusto Correa, companies that already manufacture parts and equipment to the airline industry need a "push" to take off economically and the only solution is the federal government choose to purchase the aircraft Swedish.

Corrêa said that one of the best-designed aircraft between those who dispute the federal government tender for the purchase of 36 supersonic fighters for fleet renewal of the FAB (Brazilian Air Force) is F-18, the American company Boeing. However, the director believes to be impossible to unite the Brazilian strategies with the North American restrictions.

But the Rafale, the French company Dassault, is a plane ready but not yet sold to any country, as indicated by Correa. "The F-18 fighter is already established. The French airplane is the worst of all when it comes to technology transfer. That's what I call an old-fashioned buying, "he said.

Minister - Within a few days the Defense Ministry will define what the game more feasible for the stab wounds. At a news conference held on the morning of Wednesday (05/05) in Fiesp, Defense Minister Nelson Jobim said it is poised to prepare the explanatory statement to deliver to President Luiz Inacio Lula da Silva, Next week, the Ministry's position on the purchase of aircraft. The FAB has already given its assent to the choice of the Gripen NG's.

After delivery of the document to President Lula, a hearing will be scheduled with the National Defense Council to discuss the option of the Ministry of Defence. After the meeting, the federal government will announce who will close business for the purchase of new fighters. "The Ministry has not made the choice, we are finalizing discussions. There are still some technical details that will be attached to the document within the next few days, "mentioned Jobim.

The defense minister on Wednesday attended the seminar "International Security: Prospects Brasileiras." The event that occurred in Fiesp, started around 9am, with a lecture series that offered a view on major issues involving Brazil in security affairs and defense.

Region - The ABCD project is already involved in the production of supersonic fighter Swedish Gripen NG Saab. The INBRA Aerospace Inbrafiltro Group, based in Maua, is making the wings and landing gear covers four aircraft for the brand. If the federal government choose the Gripen NG in the bidding for the FAB, San Bernardo will receive an aviation hub. The land for the venture is already defined and should be on the margins of the section of South Ring Road.

Source (http://www.abcdmaior.com.br/noticia_exibir.php?noticia=20587)

Loke2
05-06-2010, 05:34 PM
Engine number 1000 delivered, one million flight hours.

May 05, 2010 -- LYNN, Mass -- The F414 Turbofan Program celebrated delivery of its 1,000th production engine today, capping a decade of providing power to a growing range of applications and demonstrating critical technologies that deliver significant increases in mission capability.

"We look at this milestone as a tribute to the past ten-plus years, as well as a springboard for future technical innovation," said Tony Mathis, vice president and general manager of the Lynn Turbofan Department. "We are pleased with the track record we have compiled to date, and we look forward to continuing to produce one of the most versatile and reliable powerplants in military aviation history."

The F414-400 engine (22,000 lb/fn) has achieved an outstanding record of performance to date. With more than 1 million engine flight-hours of experience in Boeing F/A-18E/F Super Hornet and E/A-18G Growler aircraft, the F414 continues to exceed United States Navy (USN) goals for reliability and time on wing. The USN plans to purchase more than 1,200 engines, including spares, to power 594 twin-engine F/A-18 E/F and EA-18G aircraft. Individual F414 high-time production engines have accumulated 3,800 EFH.

In addition to operation with the USN, the F414-400 engine is now operational with the Royal Australian Air Force (RAAF). The first five F/A-18E/F Super Hornets arrived in Australia on March 26 with 19 additional aircraft planned for delivery through 2011.

The F414G, a single-engine variant of the F414-GE-400, delivers 20 percent more thrust for the Gripen Next Generation aircraft than previous powerplants. The NG Demonstrator first flew in May 2008 and has completed more than 100 flights, exhibiting excellent operability and performance in both subsonic and supersonic operation.

In anticipation of evolving and more demanding requirements, the F414 family is continuing on an ambitious growth path to increase thrust, improve durability and satisfy environmental considerations. The Enhanced Durability Engine (EDE) is focused primarily on durability improvement and life-cycle cost savings for the USN customer, while the Enhanced Performance Engine (EPE) - with increased thrust - is targeted for potential international customers.

The EDE incorporates an advanced high pressure turbine (HPT) and six-stage high pressure compressor (HPC) that offers a 2-3X hot-section durability gain and reduced fuel consumption, which could equate to a $1-2 billion savings over the life of the USN fleet. The EPE includes EDE improvements plus a new fan for greater airflow, resulting in a 20 percent thrust improvement and greater operational flexibility.

Demonstrator versions of both the EDE and EPE have been successfully run, laying the groundwork for a USN-funded specific fuel consumption (SFC) reduction effort. This initiative, geared toward developing near- and long-term energy strategies, is aimed at showing a 3 percent SFC gain compared with the current F414-GE-400 configuration. An F414-powered Super Hornet operating on a biofuel blend successfully flew in April 2010 -- the first tactical USN aircraft to use a biofuel blend.

GE is also working with the USN to develop a retrofittable noise reduction kit for the F414 that features chevron exhaust nozzle technology. These nozzles have serrated edges where each "lobe" penetrates into or out of the primary flow and generates a secondary flow, significantly reducing jet noise. To date, results show a 2-3-decibel noise reduction -- or about half the sound energy. The USN has identified funding for a program to further test and mature the technology to prepare it for incorporation in the USN F414 fleet, with work scheduled to continue through 2011.

GE Aviation, an operating unit of GE (NYSE: GE), is a world-leading provider of jet engines, components and integrated systems for commercial and military aircraft. GE Aviation has a global service network to support these offerings.
http://www.geae.com/aboutgeae/presscenter/military/military_20100505.html[/URL (http://[URL]http://www.geae.com/aboutgeae/presscenter/military/military_20100505.html)]

signatory
05-07-2010, 03:10 PM
Signs of further progress in Hungary

At the Load Diffuser 2010 / Kecskemet Air show (August) press day the Air Power blog snapped these photos of CATM AIM-120C's. So far HuAF Gripens has not been seen training with AIM-120C but it looks like things are moving forward there too.

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Deployed on Cobham Multi-Missile launchers (http://www.cobham.com/media/33483/cob_m04_mml_datasheet_uk_fa.pdf).

source (http://legiero.blog.hu/2010/05/07/amraam_rulez)




DOD Contract Award (http://www.defense.gov/contracts/contract.aspx?contractid=3162) covering AMRAAMs to CzAF and HuAF.

Raytheon Co. Missile Systems, Tucson, Ariz., is being awarded a $50,739,270 firm fixed price contract modification to provide for 102 Advanced Medium-Range Air-to-Air Missile Air Vehicles under the foreign military sales program for the following countries: Czech Republic, Hungary, Jordan, Malaysia, and Canada. Total funds have been obligated. This work will be complete in July 2008. Headquarters Medium Range Missile Systems Group, Eglin Air Force Base, Fla. , is the contracting activity (FA8675-05-C-0070/P00016).

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LD10 flyover

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SwAF news: First 2000 Fh Gripen machine.

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G-T.

The world's most Gripen
Published: 7 May 2010 at 08:44
Skaraborg Wing (F 7)

Now, Gripen with the plane's serial number 39 131 passed the two thousand flight hours, making it the Gripen flight time World Champion. The aircraft were delivered in autumn 1996 and has since flown at Skaraborg Wing, F 7th And with the 2726 flight that behind him, it is now our most Gripen.

Aircraft 39 131 have for many years been a so-called priority aircraft, PRI aircraft, the JAS 39. Principle of the PRI was introduced to hunting viggen in the 80s. A PRI-aircraft flown more intense than other aircraft, which makes it so early can get operational experience before the rest of the aircraft has reached the same running time. Experience used to modify the remaining aircraft before problems arose. The work in this way to ensure product quality is very important to keep costs as low as possible. As for the Gripen no technical problems has been identified, that led to some action.

PRI activities for 39A was closed after 1600 hours of flight, when sufficient operational experience had been seized. The PRI-aircraft then returned to flying in a more normal pace. PRI-operation continues with the latest version of the Gripen, 39C / D

The aircraft has just completed its two thousand hours of supervision at 2.kompaniet, and continue the flight as the most seasoned 39: an in the world.

FM (http://www.forsvarsmakten.se/sv/Forband-och-formagor/Forband/Skaraborgs-flygflottilj-F-7/Nyheter/Varldens-mesta-Gripen/)

signatory
05-09-2010, 08:57 PM
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How to do a piss poor job at faking (alt: mess up) a company poster:

Pick up a company PDF (http://www.gripen.com/NR/rdonlyres/8024B341-C076-4B92-A0C5-D663F31D180A/0/FactSheet_NO_update_2007.pdf) from a previous fighter jet campaign.

Select properties and look at fonts in use. Install those not already on your computer.

Save the image or grab to clipboard.

Open a image editor such as Photoshop. Mask out and delete unwanted graphics from the image.

Add new logos, text, symbols, insignias, etc.

Save and Post it to a Blog (http://livefist.blogspot.com/2010/05/coming-soon-sea-gripen-detailed.html) without noticing that the jet has both Indian and Norwegian insignia flags...

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At least this is real:

http://www.youtube.com/v/bKtfaXmN9xc

signatory
05-10-2010, 09:32 AM
Jairo Cândido of Inbrafiltro from Brazil's T1 consortium talks about working on Gripen NG.

The T1 consortium (http://www.akaer.com.br/ingles/programs/gripen.php) is Akaer, Inbra Aerospace, Friuli, Minoica and Winnstall.


G-T.

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May 10, 2010 - 8:19 pm | City
Maua produces parts for supersonic fighter

In Maua, about 500 workers are involved in producing parts for a supersonic fighter plane. The company is the Imbrafiltro specializing in defense material and which currently manufactures the wings and cover the landing gear of the first four prototypes of the Gripen NG, which are being assembled in Sweden by Saab. The model dispute Lula's preference for the new game of the FAB (Brazilian Air Force). The other two competitors are the French Rafale and the F-18 Hornet U.S.. The CEO of Inbrafiltro, Jairo Candide, spoke exclusively to the ABCD BIGGEST and ensures that if the Brazilian government to choose the Swedish aircraft to equip the FAB, only the group's facilities in Maua will be extended five times, thus bringing the region definitely aerospace era.

ABCD Maior - The ImbraAerospace, a unit of the Imbrafiltro, T1 is part of the Consortium of the Swedish firm Saab, to manufacture some parts for the Gripen NG. Can you explain the group's participation in this process?

Jairo Candide - The ImbraAerospace is responsible for all composite material, since its share of manufacturing to assembly, within the Consortium T1. Produce the two wings and landing gear covers. We participate in a bidding held that the Saab at the end of last year. The process of manufacturing the parts would be made in Brazil or India, and the group of five Brazilian companies won the bid. We are contracted to make four prototypes. With this, we have people working in Sweden and the ABCD.

ABCD Maior - What the Consortium T1 adds expertise in the group Imbrafiltro?

Jairo Candide - We are absorbing the latest technology, these wings are made of composite carbon. The Gripen NG really made the group change its technological level altogether. In this respect we are quite pleased with the work being done and the knowledge acquired. If we close business in Sweden, of course we do installations for a continuing series. Right now we are taking a huge technological leap.

ABCD Maior - What changes to the group Inbrafiltro the purchase of the Gripen NG by the federal government?

Jairo Candide - The purchase of hunting Swedish Brazilian government not only changes the context for our company, but there will be positive change throughout the country This aircraft has a potential market of about 300 aircraft over the next 20 years. We're talking about producing in Brazil, only within the Consortium T1, somewhere around $ 7 million in Brazil and do theoretically $ 20 million. But that would involve shares of Embraer, which will also manufacture other components to the game. You can imagine what this means, the difference is brutal.

ABCD Maior - The purchase of Gripen NG for Brazil can boost other markets?

Jairo Candide - We no longer have only four prototypes, to reach 300. Every entrepreneur who invests an analysis of the potential market. There is a package that is the possible sale of the Gripen NG for Norway, Sweden itself, Kuwait and India, besides a host of other applications. We know that this aircraft is chosen by the coaches of the FAB, the greater performance, improved operating costs and be cheaper.

ABCD Staff - On some occasions the president Lula and Defense Minister Nelson Jobim, were in favor of the Rafale. What assessment can you do about this possible option?

Jairo Candide - If the government opted for another game will not have the same benefits. The Rafale, for example, is already a plane ready and not sold anywhere in the world today, and is an aircraft that is in the market for over 15 years. I believe that if the choice is made by a French fighter, there may even be knowledge transfer to Brazil, but not to apply in the production of aircraft within a technological package. The Gripen NG will transfer technology and a full market potential. This is the great gain of Swedes.

ABCD Maior - In your opinion, technology transfer will be the same if Brazil to buy F-18, the American Boeing, the airplane or Rafale, the French Dassault?

Jairo Candide - For these two aircraft are bidding on, everything that we can do are limited to the purchase of 36 fighters. Aircraft are operating in a market that is already occupied by other suppliers and not us the supplier of the production line. The opportunity we have in Swedish aircraft manufacturers of these parts is to be in Brazil, and what we do here will not be realized in any other place on earth. This is the position of the package and the Swedish industrial point of view is extremely important and attractive. The difference is a plan today to spend $ 40 million, for an array of U.S. $ 200 million.

ABCD Maior - Can you talk a little about the group's activities in the Region as Inbrafiltro both in the country?

Jairo Candide - The Inbrafiltro is a group of five companies, all aimed at making material for defense or defense related issues. All units are located in the town of Maua. We will celebrate in June, 31 years of existence, so it is one of the oldest groups linked to this sector. Basically related to the theme of protection of life, we make vests, helmets, shields, armor vehicles ride and make the door of Embraer aircraft, among others. For this, we have a team of 500 employees.

source (http://www.mauavirtual.com.br/noticias_det.asp?id=18164)

Swingrole
05-12-2010, 10:23 AM
Sweden carries out air refueling by SwAF's own C-130 Hercules tanker


Försvarsmakten
May 12 2010


During a Swedish/Norwegian exercise Swedish defensive forces have for the first time ever conducted air refueling with operative JAS 39 Gripen units by it's own C-130 Hercules tanker which represents Sweden's first and only airborne tanker. During one week the C-130 Hercules tanker delivered 42 cubic metres. The Norwegian fighters were not refueled. Work continues to be able to refuel planes from other countries.


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Besides air refueling the tanker can be used parallel for transportation of goods and personnel exactly as an ordinary C-130 Hercules. This due to the fact that it doesn't have any internal fuel tanks. The fuel exchanged is taken from the tankers own supply of fuel. This was exploited in connection with personnel initially been transported from the airfield of F17 in Ronneby to the exercise field in the north of Sweden.

Gripen fighters from both F17 Ronneby and F7 in Såtenäs participated, and as a part of the exercise air refueling was conducted during both the last mission as well at the end of the exercise to be able to get all the way back to F17 in Såtenäs.

The need of one or more domestic tanker(s) has become more and more obvious. One of the strongest reasons for the initiative of getting a Swedish tanker is the need for the Gripen pilots to be able to practice air refueling to maintain their skills. Another reason is the very expensive costs for renting tankers from other countries. Tanker capacity is in addition in short supply world over.

Source (Swedish only): http://www.forsvarsmakten.se/sv/Forband-och-formagor/Forband/Skaraborgs-flygflottilj-F-7/Nyheter/Sverige-lufttankar-med-egen-tanker/

Swingrole
05-12-2010, 10:59 AM
Talking about refueling, in this article below it's stated that:


The Gripen team in India is understood to have tried hard to push for the chance to demonstrate the fighter's "hot refueling" capability, but was unable to do so.


The IAF is now keen to witness a hot refueling demonstration, and will look favourably upon such a capability in its final evaluation of the MMRCA competition.

My question now is: How many of the other contenders have hot refueling?




Nervous Indian Oil Corp Refuses To "Hot Refuel" Gripen During MMRCA Evaluation Tests


Livefist
April 30 2010


The Gripen team in India is understood to have tried hard to push for the chance to demonstrate the fighter's "hot refueling" capability, but was unable to do so after Indian Oil Aviation -- the standard supplier of aviation fuel to the Indian Air Force -- refused to be part of such an exercise. Hot refueling is a process by which a fighter is refueled (in between sorties) while its engines are still on, thereby cutting down refueling time by half and turn-around time significantly -- a capacity highly desirable in a combat situation, which basically puts aside the need for a pilot to park the aircraft, power down and exit the cockpit for refuelling to begin.

According to sources, the Gripen team was very keen to demonstrate the hot refueling capability -- even the IAF had no problems witnessing the demonstration even though it wasn't required as part of the tests -- but the offer was shot down by Indian Oil, which said it had never conducted a hot refueling operation before, and wasn't sure it was equipped to take the risk, despite assurances from Saab that it was standard practice with the Gripen. Hot refueling, it must be said, does have its share of risks.

The incident has, however, had its effect. The IAF is now keen to witness a hot refueling demonstration, and will look favourably upon such a capability in its final evaluation of the MMRCA competition. Also, it has requested Indian Oil Aviation to set about getting itself certified for hot refueling ops for the future. IOC will need to look abroad for any sort of certification. Hot refueling trucks and crews in the US, for example, receive special training and certification from an agency in the USAF command structure.

Source: http://livefist.blogspot.com/2010/04/nervous-indian-oil-corp-refuses-to-hot.html

kme
05-12-2010, 12:06 PM
Sweden carries out air refueling by SwAF's own Tp84 tanker

In case other than me was wondering, a Tp84 is what the rest of the world call a C-130 Hercules :grin:

Swingrole
05-12-2010, 12:17 PM
In case other than me was wondering, a Tp84 is what the rest of the world call a C-130 Hercules :grin:

Thanx a lot kme, I myself was wondering! But it said Tp84 (short for Transport plane 84 I discovered) in the Swedish text so... Well, that is now corrected. Thanx again!

siderius
05-17-2010, 03:12 PM
Is Brazil buying the Gripen after all?
see the cooperation with Astros: http://brazil-weekly.com

TGIF
05-19-2010, 11:20 AM
An update from India. The Gripen NG Demonstrator landed in India on Monday and went to Leh for high altitude trials today.

http://livefist.blogspot.com/2010/05/flash-gripen-demo-clears-leh-trials.html

Loke2
05-20-2010, 04:48 AM
From bharat-rakshak:


Gripen Demo REPORTEDLY clears Leh trials beautifully ... doing ALL routines required.
Gripen Demo REPORTEDLY clears heat trials in Adampur (I would stand corrected on location) beautifully.

Will bring in more details on this later.

Vishnu Som
Associate Editor
NDTV

The NG Demo was flown by a Saab pilot with a pilot from the IAF in the back seat.

"A good day at work" -- Saab employee working on the Gripen project.

signatory
05-20-2010, 06:48 AM
More from the recent;

TTP

No ugly sidewinders on these photos.

Erieye AEW&C, 7h mission with refueler, CAMAOs, live gun firings and LGB strikes, IRIS-T and Ed:19... good stuff.

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LSS

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LSS

G-T:


Tactical exercise in the north
Published: May 20, 2010 at 10:03
Air Combat Training School (LSS)

During weeks 16-17, TU JAS 39 based with six JAS 39 C / D Vidsel-base in the North of the exercise TTP Exercise 2010, which is a joint exercises between the F17, F21, F7, TU JAS 39 and the Norwegian Air Force. Although the Finnish Air Force planned to attend but had to to cancel at a late stage.

The aim of the exercise was to samovar operation divisions and to evaluate existing and newly developed tactics in a complex environment with multiple participants. The idea is that the experience gained as a basis for updating the intermediate division, the tactical regulations called Gripen TTP (Techniques, Tactics and Procedures). The JAS 39 TU is responsible for the preparation and updating of this publication, which also gave its name to exercise.

Swedish participants in this exercise have been primarily JAS 39 units but the big news has been to command aircraft, ASC 890, and air refueling aircraft, Tp84T, for the first time participated in a Swedish air force exercise. TU JAS 39 has also had the opportunity to evaluate the new version of the JAS 39 C / D, also called Edition 19, who recently has been introduced on the rapid reaction divisions.

During the exercise is also new so-called Mission Commander (MC) had the opportunity to practice planning and implementation of COMAO missions, (Combined Air Operations), with up to around 20 aircraft participating. At these COMAO also been sharp shooting and dropping of laser-guided bombs.

"It's been a very instructive exercise and we have gathered many useful experience. We have, among other things, for the first time in the Air Force directed implemented a 7-hour mission with the help of his own Swedish tanker aircraft, "said Division Director Pierre Ziherl.

Exercise Exercise TTP was conducted for the first time in its present form in 2008, under the direction of the F17, as training for Red Flag exercise in the United States. It had similar joint exercises between TU JAS 39, F17 and F21 implemented, which later developed into a major air exercise. However, remains its primary focus, which is located on the flight production and tactical flight in complex scenarios. The biggest reason why the exercise is carried out in northern Sweden, it is well suited exercise area and the agreements reached between Sweden, Norway and Finland for joint exercises over the border.

Michael Olsson

TGIF
05-20-2010, 07:30 AM
More from the recent;

No ugly sidewinders on these photos.


Agree! The IRIS-T is a beauty.
I'm glad to see the new Ed.19 stuff is put to good use.

In case anyone besides me was wondering about the abbreviation TU in "TU JAS39", it's apparently a Swedish abbreviation for "Taktisk Utprovning" meaning Operational Test & Evaluation (OT&E).

signatory
05-22-2010, 12:27 AM
More from Vishnu posted at BR.



http://www.gripen.com/NR/rdonlyres/425F50C5-155B-4CD4-B647-74246EDF63A5/0/080303_jetset_212dotjpg

A few more Gripen Demo details ...

She landed in Leh. Switched off. Restarted 2 hours later as required after the team had a light lunch.

She took off with 2 Iris T, and 1600 kgs in the centre drop tank plus full internal fuel.

Performance tests were conducted in Adampur. No problems.

Indian Air Force pilots flew rear seat.

Gripen team basically said they would do whatever they were asked to do by the Indian Air Force.

The flight down from Sweden also worked flawlessly.

Remember ... this is a highly evolved prototype ... but a prototype nonetheless so there were clear risks for the Gripen team to be willing to fly this down. Whats been achieved is truly impressive.

Not sure if she supercruised in India though IAF pilots did supercruise in Sweden where they flew her quite extensively.

Cheers
Vishnu Som
Associate Editor and Senior Anchor
NDTV



I don't think he got the 1600Kg drop tank number right..

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Changes among Saab management for Gripen marketing.

Johan Lehander who took up the Managing Director role at Gripen International following the split form BAE has now lost his position as did the Commercial Director Anders Frisén. Frisén has been with GI since 1997.

The Gripen International activities was moved to Saab's reworked Aeronautics division last year where all airborne systems is managed. Unlike old Gripen International the Aeronautics division is not only responsible for marketing but also development and production, etc. Headed by Lennart Sindahl.

Source (Swedish) (http://www.corren.se/ekonomi/?articleId=5210733&date=&menuids=)

kme
05-22-2010, 09:36 AM
I don't think he got the 1600Kg drop tank number right.. Why not? As far as I googled, Gripen carries 450 US gallon drop tanks and that's worth ~1400 kg in fuel itself. Add to this the raw tank with mounts etc.

signatory
05-25-2010, 06:30 AM
Why not? As far as I googled, Gripen carries 450 US gallon drop tanks and that's worth ~1400 kg in fuel itself. Add to this the raw tank with mounts etc.

In total weight maybe. But no one would refer to the 450G tanks as holding 1600 kgs of fuel which is what he did.

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Gripen NG demo flies from its nest

25 May 2010, in News

Last week the Gripen NG demo was making its Iinternational debut by taking part in the last phase of the Indian evaluation trials for the MMRCA (Medium Multi- Role Combat Aircraft) tender in India.

To date the aircraft has flown some 135 test flights in Sweden and is now testing its wings abroad, showing the international arena that next generation Gripen fighter development is on track.

"This achievement just shows the expertise and high technology capability that Sweden boasts in developing and manufacturing a fighter aircraft of this calibre. Several International pilots have already flown and evaluated the Gripen NG demo in Sweden, including pilots from Brazil and India and we are confident that this aircraft meets, or exceeds every operational requirement raised by the Indian Air Force," says Eddy de la Motte, Gripen Campaign Director, India.

The harsh environment of the Leh airbase, 3300m high up in the Himalayas, proved to be no match for the Swedish fighter where it cleared the high altitude trials.

http://www.saabgroup.com/Global/Documents%20and%20Images/About%20Saab/Newsroom/Thumbs/gripenng_athensdotjpg
The Gripen NG demo is the flying platform which is being used to train and develop the new technologies and features incorporated into the Gripen NG. The Gripen NG has been specifically developed to meet the operational requirements of countries such as India and Brazil, which requires a next generation fighter with significantly increased combat range and endurance, increased payload and super cruise capability.


Saab group (http://www.saabgroup.com/en/About-Saab/Newsroom/Press-releases--News/Gripen-NG-demo-flies-from-its-nest/)

signatory
05-25-2010, 08:22 AM
https://connect.ne.cision.com/logos/saabdotgif

25 May, 2010 13:15 CET

Saab , Gripen , FMV , Avionics system
Saab develops future avionics system for Gripen

Defence and security company Saab has received an order from the Swedish Defence Materiel Administration (FMV) to develop an avionics system for the Swedish Armed Forces' Gripen aircraft. The order value amounts to MSEK 450, divided over 2 years.

The order means that work will begin on a new avionics system, including new computers and displays, which will enter into service 10 years from now.

"Gripen is under continuous development. Computers with the best performance possible today will be viewed as inadequate for the tasks facing Gripen in ten years, when the aircraft must remain modern for a further twenty years. Few high-tech products have a service life as long as Gripen," says Lennart Sindahl, Vice President at Saab and head of the Aeronautics business area.

The new avionics system will enhance Gripen's capacity to handle large quantities of complex information with different security classification levels. A new avionics system also makes it possible in the future to introduce new sensors that require altered system architecture.

Saab (http://www.saabgroup.com/en/About-Saab/Newsroom/Press-releases--News/Saab-develops-future-avionics-system-for-Gripen/)

signatory
05-28-2010, 12:30 PM
Four additional 39C's delivered to the SAAF

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Norrköping harbor three weeks ago

And they arrived safely...



Additional Gripens arrive 2 x 2
Date: 28 May 2010

By Dean Wingrin

The SAAF received a additional four new Gripen C fighter aircraft today.

Arriving on board the cargo vessel Achtergracht (registered in Amsterdam) yesterday, the four aircraft were offloaded in Table Bay Harbour this morning. They had been loaded onboard the vessel at the port of Norrkoping in Sweden.

The single seat aircraft, serials 3912 to 3915, were then towed the 8km from the harbour to AFB Ysterplaat in two convoys of two aircraft each. They will be made ready for flight at the airforce base prior to departure.

With all nine dual-seat Gripen D aircraft already delivered, these four aircraft will join the first two Gripen Cs that arrived on 11 February this year. The Gripen will play a key part in the air force's plans to safeguard the airspace above the stadiums during the 2010 Soccer World Cup.

The original order was for nine Gripen D dual-seat and 19 Gripen C single-seat aircraft. However, the order was revised in 2005 to nine dual-seat and seventeen single-seat aircraft. The first instrumented Gripen D was delivered in April 2008 and is based at the SAAF's Test flight and Development Centre near Bredasdorp in the southern Cape. The balance of the aircraft is assigned to 2 Squadron at AFB Makhado in the Limpopo province.

Source (http://www.saairforce.co.za/news-and-events/888/additional-gripens-arrive-2-x-2)


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The SAAF also ordered additional IRIS-T missiles last month.


Wednesday, 28 April 2010 11:29
The South African Air Force has placed a further R601 192.50 contract on German missile maker Diehl BGT Defence for the supply of IRIS-T-related equipment. The contract is an extension of a tender for an undisclosed but small number of the short-range air-to-air missile (SRAAM) first awarded in May 2008.

The infra-red guided IRIS-T was acquired as an interim weapon for the Saab Gripen advanced light fighter aircraft of which the SAAF now have nine two-seat examples and two single-seaters. Four more will arrive before the World Cup in June. The fleet will stand at 26 by 2012, a year before the first Denel Dynamics A-Darter 5th generation SRAAM is delivered to the SAAF.

The IRIS-T (Infra Red Imaging System Tail/Thrust Vector-Controlled) missiles were delivered late last year and debuted aboard the Gripen at a parade in January to mark the 90th birthday of the SAAF.

The wikipedia says the modern missile costs about €400 000 each, meaning the latest contract is likely not missiles but rather associated equipment.

Chief of the Air Force (CAF) Lt Gen Carlo Gagiano last year said the SAAF was contemplating a beyond visual range AAM (BVRAAM) for Gripen, but adds that high integration costs and a tight budget will likely mean the choice of a weapon already integrated by the original equipment manufacturer.

Denel Dynamics, the state arsenal business unit developing the A-Darter with Brazil under a billion rand programme dubbed Project Assegaai, had hoped to develop a local radar-guided BVRAAM for Gripen, provisionally called the T-Darter.

Air-to-ground weapons already include Mark 80-series “dumb" bombs and may shortly include US “Paveway” guidance kits for those munitions.

source (http://www.defenceweb.co.za/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=7677:sa-buys-ups-iris-t-ante&catid=35:Aerospace&Itemid=107)

signatory
05-30-2010, 08:36 AM
HuAF Display

Year two of the fuel-vent-burn-trick....

http://img46.imageshack.us/img46/2210/huaf2dotjpg

@ 1m 20s

http://www.youtube.com/v/7MHc3wtYUYw
UL: motopejo

jontew
05-30-2010, 11:05 AM
Great vid there sig! I would give my left nut to ride a program like that! :D

signatory
05-31-2010, 03:52 PM
SwAF : Mishap with JAS 39D

@ F 21 Norrbotten Wing.

At CET 2:55pm a David broke free during engine tests after a service.

The jet skidded off the runway and flipped over.

One technician contracted minor injures.

Not much more information than that, a investigation will look into the matter now.

source (http://www.forsvarsmakten.se/sv/Forband-och-formagor/Forband/Norrbottens-flygflottilj-F-21/Nyheter/Haveri-med-JAS-39-Gripenflygplan/)

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CzAF : Slovak display with JAS 39D

http://img215.imageshack.us/img215/3576/slo2dotjpg

TGIF
06-01-2010, 12:00 PM
A picture from the incident. The aircraft flipped up-side-down with the fin dug into the ground.

http://www.kuriren.nu/img/2010/6/1/5400808dotjpg

In Swedish:
http://www.kuriren.nu/nyheter/artikel.aspx?articleid=5400805

According to local newspaper Norbottenskuriren, the Swedish Accident Investigation Board will not look into this matter. The investigation will be led by the swedish armed forces. No other news at this time.

Herman the II
06-01-2010, 12:07 PM
Sad end for a plane. Good to hear that nobody got seriously injured.

signatory
06-01-2010, 12:23 PM
https://connect.ne.cision.com/logos/saabdotgif

1 Jun, 2010 11:00 CET

Saab, Gripen, FMV
Saab signs contract with FMV regarding Gripen

Saab has received an order from the Swedish Defence Material Administration, FMV, for the continuous support of Gripen’s operational capacity. The contract is valued to MSEK 230.

Amongst other things the order covers product maintenance, technical support, basic operations such as test flying, rigs and simulators in order to ensure the Gripen system's operational ability and airworthiness. This work will be undertaken during the second half of 2010 at Saab's plants located in Linköping, Arboga, Göteborg and Stockholm.

Saab (http://www.saabgroup.com/en/About-Saab/Newsroom/Press-releases--News/Saab-signs-contract-with-FMV-regarding-Gripen2/)

JRT
06-01-2010, 03:15 PM
As I'm too lazy to read the 155 pages of this thread, could someone (Signatory) update me on the current production of the Gripen? Have the SwAF orders been fulfilled? Is the production line running?

signatory
06-01-2010, 04:07 PM
As I'm too lazy to read the 155 pages of this thread, could someone (Signatory) update me on the current production of the Gripen? Have the SwAF orders been fulfilled? Is the production line running?

Assembly of jets for the SwAF, South Africa and Thailand is under production atm. The current contract with Sweden is to deliver the last 39C/D in 2014. That order involves reusing adaptable parts from the A/B fleet to produce C/D jets, so the total production scope involving subcontractors is smaller now than in the past, since there's no need to buy additional RM12 engines for instance.

signatory
06-02-2010, 02:16 PM
Event:

18 x JAS 39 Flyover

Eighteen Gripen fighters flying a lucky leaf formation will honor the Crown Princess Couple (http://www.royalcourt.se/royalcourt/wedding.4.396160511584257f21800060315.html) as they marry. The flyover is planned to coincide with the post-ceremony journey by the Royal Barge.

19 June 2010
STOCKHOLM

SR (http://mobil.svt.se/2.33538/1.2026219/jas-kortege_hyllar_brudparet?lid=senasteNytt_1765014&lpos=rubrik_2026219)

(Let's hope for good weather... )

TGIF
06-02-2010, 05:41 PM
More events containing the Gripen:

Annual Swedish Armed Forces' Air show 2010

In English:
http://www.forsvarsmakten.se/en/About-the-Armed-Forces/Exercises/The-Swedish-Armed-Forces-Airshow-2010/

This year the event at Malmen AFB Linköping will go on for four days as it also contains Aerospace Conference Sweden (Thursday), European Air Power Conference (Friday) as well as the reopening of the Museum of Flight (Saturday). The museum has been rebuilt to fit the salvaged DC-3 that was shot down by soviet MiG-15's over the Baltic Sea in 1952.

Saturday June 12th. Reopening of the museum, "Homecoming Day" for former students, and recruitment activities with Linköping University and other co-organizers.

Sunday June 13th. Malmen will be open to the public with displays of the following aircrafts and helicopters (I wonder if all are aerial or if some are static only):

Bleriot XI, Sk16 (T-6?), Saab B17, Cub, DC-3, J28 Vampire, J29 'Tunnan', J34 Hawker Hunter, Hkp4 (CH-46), Hkp5 (Hughes 269A), Hkp6 (Bell 206), Hkp10 (Super Puma), Hkp14 (NH90), Hkp15 (AW109), C-17 Globemaster III, Tummelisa, Sk 50 (Saab 91), Sk 61 (Bulldog), Tiger Moth, Kranisch glider, Tp100 (Saab 340), J32 Lansen, Spitfire Mk XVI, P-51 Mustang, J35 Draken, Sk37 Viggen, Tp84 (C-130), Sk60 (Saab 105) and of course the JAS39 Gripen (solo and four ship displays).


I'll be there on Saturday and probably Sunday, and I hope I get some good shots of the aircrafts in general and the Gripen in particular. If some of them turns out great, I'll post em here.

Loke2
06-04-2010, 04:43 AM
I have no idea if there is anything in this, anybody who has more info?


Oman and Sweden are said to have reactivated contacts on the JAS 39 Gripen multirole fighter aircraft made by the Swedish aerospace company Saab. The following 332-word report sheds light on the subject and tells what about these contacts.

http://tacticalreport.com/view_news/Royal_Air_Force_of_Oman_JAS_39_Gripen_and_Eurofighter_Typhoon/1229

signatory
06-04-2010, 12:55 PM
Loke2, tacticalreport.com is more or less a scam site if you ask me. Countries always talk about these things.. but Oman is a EF target more than anything.

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Stockholm

Friday medal ceremony for the Afghanistan force FS18 - Gripen 'missing man' flyover for the two men we lost.


http://img263.imageshack.us/img263/5474/fs18dotjpg

http://img180.imageshack.us/img180/1887/missingmandotjpg
Photos: Torbjörn F Gustafsson/Försvarsmakten

(was a spot on flyover.. looked really great.)

Loke2
06-08-2010, 09:52 AM
Crucially, delays in the tendering process after the 2008 Request for Proposals (RFP) pushed back the required entry into service date for the TTE aircraft, thus allowing Saab to offer the much-enhanced Gripen NG standard rather than the Gripen C/D.

http://www.aviationweek.com/aw/generic/story_channel.jsp?channel=AviationWeek.com&id=news/awx/2010/06/07/awx_06_07_2010_p0-232575.xml&headline=Delays%20Shift%20Swiss%20Fighter%20Goals

Has the NG really been offered to Switzerland?

Natter
06-08-2010, 01:01 PM
http://www.aviationweek.com/aw/generic/story_channel.jsp?channel=AviationWeek.com&id=news/awx/2010/06/07/awx_06_07_2010_p0-232575.xml&headline=Delays%20Shift%20Swiss%20Fighter%20Goals

Has the NG really been offered to Switzerland?

Yes it has

signatory
06-10-2010, 01:38 PM
Gripen ready to protect the World Cup

http://www.gripen.com/NR/rdonlyres/06F08152-D733-4DEF-A574-495DDF0ED371/10877/GripenWorldCup454dotjpg

Gripen will be on the frontline, providing airspace security and protection for the planet's biggest sporting event of the year, the 2010 FIFA Soccer World Cup, being held across South Africa from 11 June - 11 July.

Continue Reading (http://www.gripen.com/en/MediaRelations/News/2010/gripen_ready_to_protect_the_world_cup.htm)

+ Opening Ceremony

FIFA has apparently pulled their heads out of their you-know-whats and finally allowed the SAAF to participate during the opening ceremony on Friday.

The idea is to fly over two Gripens and open up the air for the Silver Falcons Aerobatic Team.. afterwards the Gripens will return and fly with afterburner over the stadium.

But will they be able to drown out the f#!@€&$¤ vuvuzela's... ?

Video (http://videos.wittysparks.com/id/1182614469)of 'Practice' pre-event display Silver Falcons + Gripens

http://www.youtube.com/v/A9O8JIQ7pvo

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Aerospace Forum Sweden

In 2010 Swedish Aviation celebrate its 100th anniversary. Many activities will be organised throughout the year. The main event will take place on June 10 – 13 at the cradle of Swedish Aviation, the historical Malmen Air Base, in close proximity to Linköping, the centre of the Swedish Aerospace industry.

signatory
06-11-2010, 08:08 AM
FIFA World Cup

Official:

“The SAAF will be taking part at the opening ceremony ... and the world at large will witness a combined display from Silver Falcons and the newly acquired high-tech fighter jets – the Gripens,” the military says in a statement. “The SAAF is proud to be part of this event as it will contribute to a safe and secure event.”

And... the weather over Soccer City is clear and sunny.

The opening ceremony kicks off in about 55 minutes from my post.

source (http://www.defenceweb.co.za/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=8430:air-display-on-cards-for-world-cup-opening&catid=55:SANDF&Itemid=108)

MoriartySE
06-11-2010, 09:36 AM
I'll be there on Saturday and probably Sunday, and I hope I get some good shots of the aircrafts in general and the Gripen in particular. If some of them turns out great, I'll post em here.

I'm a daily reader and big fan of this thread. I'll be there, as assisting instructor on a Viggen simulator. Would be really cool to get the opportunity to meet any of you guys visiting the airshow. Look out for the "simbus" and Il'l be there.
It will for sure be a wonderful day for aviation fans in general and Gripen fans in particular!l

signatory
06-11-2010, 09:54 AM
Count on TV to not show anything but dancing weirdos and dung beetles... (* or maybe just my TV and a lack of attention...)

Royterrs upped a photo of the Word Cup flypast though.

http://img815.imageshack.us/img815/3639/sscd3dotjpg


Planes fly past Soccer City stadium

Planes fly past Soccer City stadium in Johannesburg June 11, 2010, during the opening ceremony before the 2010 World Cup opening match between Mexico and South Africa. *******/Kai Pfaffenbach

@MoriartySE, just wishing I could be there...


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HuAF @ ILA

http://www.youtube.com/v/thTLDFFzO4o
x0Samrie0x

Herman the II
06-11-2010, 10:11 AM
Count on TV to not show anything but dancing weirdos and dung beetles...


I saw them for a couple of secs, however those annoying horns ruined it.

signatory
06-11-2010, 10:47 AM
I saw them for a couple of secs, however those annoying horns ruined it.

Ah yeah...

Bah! The Silver Falcons and Gripens had a 3 minute display during the preshow which happened 5-10 minutes before the ceremony.. my TV channel cut out both the beginning and end of the thing. Annoying.

Nice to see the Hungarian jet at ILA Berlin anyways. He didnt get to fly in Romania...

signatory
06-12-2010, 02:39 AM
ABBA Performs in Sweden (Supersonically)

Before you can design a supersonic aircraft with lower sonic boom, you have to be able to measure the boom - outdoors and indoors. To get the precise information it needs when it begins testing a low-boom research aircraft, the Japan Aerospace Exploration Agency (JAXA) is developing a measurement system that uses a tethered balloon.

http://img808.imageshack.us/img808/1614/cda7cff3c5a24772acda815dotjpg
Photo: JAXA

A protoype of the Airborne Blimp Boom Acquisition (ABBA) system has been tested in Sweden, with air force Saab Gripen fighters providing the sonic booms. The system is designed to measure the sonic boom waveform, which with a conventional supersonic aircraft is an N-wave that produces the classic "double-bang".

Full Article (http://www.aviationweek.com/aw/blogs/aviation_week/on_space_and_technology/index.jsp?plckController=Blog&plckBlogPage=BlogViewPost&newspaperUserId=a68cb417-3364-4fbf-a9dd-4feda680ec9c&plckPostId=Blog%3Aa68cb417-3364-4fbf-a9dd-4feda680ec9cPost%3Aab5938b8-b404-498d-8ec5-d4113e8064f4&plckScript=blogScript&plckElementId=blogDest)



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GT


JAS 39 Gripen aircraft to participate in tests of radar missile meteor in the European skies.

9 jun

Armed Forces requested government approval for flight tests in France, Italy, Spain, Britain and Germany.

The countries have cooperation in the project since 2002 to develop and test the robot. The further test work is expected to last at least another couple of years.

As early as 2001, the government's Defence Materiel Administration cleared to participate in the project for the development of the Meteor to include the Gripen.

Stock in 2007 wrote the work, as a Swedish project, an agreement with Saab Gripen for the hire of the tests as alternates to the plane Eurofighter.

Test of hot air

Now, a step to be taken in cooperation between the six countries involved. In the letter to the Department of Defence Defence Forces writes:

"Gripen International has been commissioned by Saab Aerosystems asks the Armed Forces with the support aircraft for the implementation of the flight test campaigns abroad. The first implemented in Britain in August."

But more countries may be targeted for test flights. Production Manager Göran Mårtensson writes that "as an example, climate tests in other aviation-related projects carried out in Granada in Spain."


Source (http://www.corren.se/ostergotland/linkoping/?articleId=5246440)

signatory
06-12-2010, 01:58 PM
Brazilian Aero Blog and Alexandre Galante was invited to the Aerospace Conference Sweden. Saab held among things a conference on the Gripen NG programs.

Go to his latest blog-entry for lots of new Gripen NG infomation. (http://www.aereo.jor.br/2010/06/12/tudo-o-que-voce-gostaria-de-saber-ou-nao-sobre-o-sobre-o-gripen-ng/)

Payload has grown again... to 7200 Kg :)

jochen
06-13-2010, 05:27 AM
Anyone knows the difference of 1st and 2nd generation AESA radar?

signatory
06-14-2010, 01:38 AM
jochen, I don't think there's a common definition available... ? Some might say there's a generation shift between using brick-sized T/R modules for sub apertures and now use slimmer tile-sized modules for instance but then there's also the question of how to receive the information they take in. Number of channels and so on. Maybe a radar guru can give us a proper answer...

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Some photos from the Malmen airshow

http://img684.imageshack.us/img684/5166/kac17cc70c0dotjpg
Gripen NG Demo and SAC C-17. Photo: Karl-Johan Karlsson

http://img580.imageshack.us/img580/881/flyg13597769jdotjpg
Photo: JOHAN NILSSON / SCANPIX

http://img248.imageshack.us/img248/2560/flyg6jpg597757jdotjpg
Photo: JOHAN NILSSON / SCANPIX

http://img571.imageshack.us/img571/9679/flyg5jpg597755jdotjpg
Photo: JOHAN NILSSON / SCANPIX

http://img708.imageshack.us/img708/7428/4grupp9b70bdotjpg
Photo: Stefan Sundkvist
http://img707.imageshack.us/img707/2978/demorear233dffe1odotjpg
Photo: Stefan Sundkvist

signatory
06-14-2010, 06:12 AM
New Gripen Firms Up
Posted by Bill Sweetman at 6/14/2010 1:05 AM CDT
According to Saab executives, the decision to go ahead with the Gripen Next Generation has already been taken by the Swedish government.

[...]

The MS 21 configuration is being defined - but it is now clear that MS 21 is in fact the NG, with the new General Electric F414G engine, modified airframe, Selex Galileo active electronically scanned array radar and new core avionics. It is understood that development is being quietly funded by the Swedish government.

Read full blog post. (http://www.aviationweek.com/aw/blogs/defense/index.jsp?plckController=Blog&plckScript=blogScript&plckElementId=blogDest&plckBlogPage=BlogViewPost&plckPostId=Blog%3A27ec4a53-dcc8-42d0-bd3a-01329aef79a7Post%3A34903d28-5d5a-4d03-99cc-6c12038c0ab4)

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madschristoffer
06-14-2010, 06:11 PM
juice stuff. thanks :)

tidls
06-15-2010, 04:06 AM
Some of my pics of the Gripen Demo. What a powerful machine!

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energo
06-15-2010, 09:18 AM
jochen, I don't think there's a common definition available... ? Some might say there's a generation shift between using brick-sized T/R modules for sub apertures and now use slimmer tile-sized modules for instance but then there's also the question of how to receive the information they take in. Number of channels and so on. Maybe a radar guru can give us a proper answer...


Not sure in this case, but the manufacturers tend to speak in terms of their product generation. For instance Northrop Grumman is up to their 5th generation AESA with the APG-81. The first one being the Ultra Reliable Radar concept in 1985, earliest precursor to the F-22's APG-77. The precursor to the ES-05 would perhaps be Selex's Vixen series.

More generally, in simplified terms a 1st generation Phased Array or Electronically Scanned Array/Antenna often refers to the building sized, vacume tube survilance radars of the 1960s and early 1970s, such as the HAPDAR and later COBRA DANE.

2nd generation systems in the late 1970s switched to solid state or transistors greately compacting the systems. Examples are the AN/SPY-1 series of the AEGIS system and E-3 AWACS.

3rd generation are todays 'active' phased array systems with compact GaAs Monolithic Microwave Integrated Circuit (MMIC) arrays integrating the transmitter and reciever on the module. Key features are substantially improved reliability and the ability to interleave modes, ie. simultaneously operate air-to-ground and air-to-air modes.

Next generation will focus on new materials, packaging and mass production technologies; GaN, metamaterials, multiple per. chip arrays, wideband antennas, low cost single chip modules costing 10s of dollars, terrahertz carbon transistors, novel beam forming techniques, and not at least huge advances in computational power, software, networking and fusion with other sensors.

Excellent paper by Lincoln Labs on the history of phased arrays: "The Development of Phased-Array Radar Technology"
http://citeseerx.ist.psu.edu/viewdoc/download?doi=10.1.1.73.2849&rep=rep1&type=pdf

B. Bolsøy
Oslo

Skyman
06-15-2010, 11:08 AM
Someone said the SAAF Gripen will fly just before the world cup match between Brazil and North Korea. Hope we could see on TV!!!

JohanGrön
06-15-2010, 03:20 PM
Brazilian Aero Blog and Alexandre Galante was invited to the Aerospace Conference Sweden. Saab held among things a conference on the Gripen NG programs.

Go to his latest blog-entry for lots of new Gripen NG infomation. (http://www.aereo.jor.br/2010/06/12/tudo-o-que-voce-gostaria-de-saber-ou-nao-sobre-o-sobre-o-gripen-ng/)

Payload has grown again... to 7200 Kg :)

http://www.aereo.jor.br/wp-content/uploads/2010/06/IMG_0454dotJPG

What is the dotted green circle representing? The green circles are alreday finished integrations and the dotted red circles would be those integrations standing next in line to be made but what does the dotted green circle around the RecceLite pod symbolize?

signatory
06-15-2010, 05:07 PM
http://www.aereo.jor.br/wp-content/uploads/2010/06/IMG_0454dotJPG

What is the dotted green circle representing? The green circles are alreday finished integrations and the dotted red circles would be those integrations standing next in line to be made but what does the dotted green circle around the RecceLite pod symbolize?

Well it's integrated but not on front line divisions as far as i can tell. Was flown during the Swiss evals on SwAF OT&E Gripens if I remember correctly.

@tidls, awesome photos !

Speckwolf
06-15-2010, 08:03 PM
Someone said the SAAF Gripen will fly just before the world cup match between Brazil and North Korea. Hope we could see on TV!!!

The sound of their Volvo engines would surely be an improvement - damn, I#m really getting sick of those Vuvuzelas :-).

signatory
06-16-2010, 01:42 PM
Date Posted: 15-Jun-2010
Jane's Defence Weekly

Saab predicts increase in global fighter market

Gareth Jennings Jane's Aviation Desk Editor - Linköping

Saab anticipates a substantial increase in fighter procurement activities in the next three to four years following a recent lull brought about by the global economic crisis, according to Hans Rosén, head of marketing and campaigns for the company's Gripen fighter aircraft.

[...]

Of the 12 fighter replacement programmes that are ongoing or expected to be launched before 2016, India's requirement for 126 aircraft is seen as "the big one", Rosén said. Saab's NG demonstrator aircraft arrived in the country on 17 May for three days of hot and high trials in northern Kashmir. Flying down through Hungary, Greece, Egypt, Saudi Arabia and Oman before arriving at Jamnagar in Gujarat, India (3,300 m above sea level), the NG "performed better than even we expected", Rosén said. The aircraft, which was accompanied by 10 support staff, flew eight sorties, during which it was crewed by Swedish and Indian pilots.

"We think the IAF [Indian Air Force] has a good view of the Gripen," he said, adding that Saab believes India will need more than the 126 aircraft requested so far. Of these, 108 are due to be built by Hindustan Aeronautics Limited (HAL) in-country. A downselect of the six competing aircraft is due towards the end of this year.

[...]

Thailand, which has started training pilots for the six aircraft it ordered in 2008, is expected to sign for a second batch later in 2010. Saab sees additional opportunities for up to 36 aircraft in this country.

The Swiss, who have a requirement for 22 aircraft to partially replace the air force's ageing fleet of Northrop F-5E Tiger IIs, are being offered the Gripen aircraft based on the future MS21 upgrade (the Swedish Air Force recently instigated the MS20 block upgrade of its Gripen fleet). "Switzerland is a real hot spot for us right now," Rosén said.

[...]

Saab sees the Gripen NG as being a prime contender to secure many of the 2,500 fighter orders expected in the next five to 10 years.

Login (http://jdw.janes.com/public/jdw/index.shtml)to Jane's for full article (or google the headline)



Nice to see Hans Rosén moving up a slot.

Related:

Also on Janes


Neuron UCAV set for first flight in 2012, says Saab
Saab is undertaking the assembly and integration of the systems for the multinational Neuron unmanned combat aerial vehicle (UCAV) technology demonstrator before it is ...
11-Jun-2010

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Caprice
06-16-2010, 07:18 PM
Sweden awards $29.6 million contract for Multifunctional Information Distribution System terminals to Data Link Solutions
(Finland also signed a contract for MIDS-LVT terminals the day before Sweden.)


CEDAR RAPIDS, Iowa (June 15, 2010) - Data Link Solutions (DLS) has been awarded a $29.6 million contract for Multifunctional Information Distribution System - Low Volume Terminals (MIDS-LVTs) from the Swedish Defence Materiel Administration, FMV. The equipment is to be used by FMV and the Swedish military. These MIDS-LVT terminals provide real-time data communications, situational awareness, navigation and digital voice capability, all in a jam-resistant, crypto-secured package.
"This contract continues a 10-year relationship between DLS and the Swedish military to meet their data link network requirements," said DLS Director Steve Overbeck.
Deliveries begin later this year and will continue through 2012. The terminals will be installed on Gripen fighters, Erieye C2 aircraft as well as various ground and maritime applications. Work will be performed in Wayne, N.J., Cedar Rapids, Iowa, and Heidelberg, Germany.
(Source: Rockwell Collins; issued June 15, 2010)
http://www.rockwellcollins.com/news/page12472.html

C.

(A little more about data links (and the crypto discussion some year ago), if anyone is interested, only in Swedish though:
http://wisemanswisdoms.blogspot.com/2009/04/vidare-i-krypteringen.html

Sancho78
06-17-2010, 12:11 PM
Brazilian Aero Blog and Alexandre Galante was invited to the Aerospace Conference Sweden. Saab held among things a conference on the Gripen NG programs.

Go to his latest blog-entry for lots of new Gripen NG infomation. (http://www.aereo.jor.br/2010/06/12/tudo-o-que-voce-gostaria-de-saber-ou-nao-sobre-o-sobre-o-gripen-ng/)

Payload has grown again... to 7200 Kg :)

But MTOW is still the same, 16.5t - 7.2t payload - 7.1t empty weight = 2.2t internal fuel only right? But it wasn't it 3.5t internal fuel initially?

signatory
06-17-2010, 12:58 PM
But MTOW is still the same, 16.5t - 7.2t payload - 7.1t empty weight = 2.2t internal fuel only right? But it wasn't it 3.5t internal fuel initially?

Sure. There's practially no normal loadout for a 7200 kg payload but if there's ever such a need to fly a very heavy load the jet would have to fly out with less than all its possible internal fuel. It's better to be able to do it once in a while with less fuel... than not at all. Provided that MTOW is not upped in the future.

Worth to keep in mind; all jets should be looked at in more details if people intend to compare payloads... some jets talk about near 10t payloads but has still quite few weapon stations that can support such massive loads unless all they pretty much plan to do is carry fuel and the occasional strike weapon. Gripen NG a/c despite being light-medium fighters has for instance as many as 7 pylons suitable for air to ground weapons while some of the heavy twin engine jets has fewer pylons available for A2G weapons and is then limited to lighter air to air weapons on remaining stations. But at the end of the day all that matters is what the air force intends to do with their jets...

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Here (http://www.aereo.jor.br/2010/06/17/futuro-brilhante-para-o-gripen/)

signatory
06-18-2010, 09:24 AM
Eyes on Applied Composites AB

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Taking part at EUROSATORY (http://www.eurosatory.com/) this week; ACAB supplies the radar cross section reducing radome (http://www.acab.se/en-EN/products_areas/aerospace/radomes) for the JAS Gripen.

The company has 50+ years of microwave (http://www.acab.se/en-EN/services/productdevelopment/microwave_technology) technology experience on how to design radomes that optimizes radar performance while reducing vulnerabilities to external signals (and mother nature). Saab Lansen was the first SwAF aircraft to use one of their radomes.

Applied Composites AB (http://www.acab.se/en-EN) has its hand on a wide range of projects that require light weight and/or stealthy (http://www.acab.se/en-EN/services/productdevelopment/stealth_technology) composite components. Plenty of SAAB products but also for programs such as the Swedish and Norwegian stealth vessels.

Professor emeritus Gunnar Eliasson (http://books.google.se/books?id=DHt8ite9dr0C&printsec=frontcover#v=onepage&q&f=false) on ACAB in his book "Advanced Public Procurement as Industrial Policy: The Aircraft Industry as a Technical University":

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ACAB's Gripen Radome at Compact Test Range (CRT):

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ACAB is a natural part of Swedish aerospace R&D. They for instance contributed to the National Aeronautics Research Programme - NFFP "SIGANT (http://researchprojects.kth.se/index.php/kb_1/io_10026/io.html)" program that aimed to research body-integrated array antennas.

Google-Translate from VINNOVA NFFP review (http://www.vinnova.se/upload/EPiStorePDF/vr-08-05.pdf)

SIGANT - Hull Integrated antenna arrays with low Radar signature
Project Hull Integrated Antenna Group in Stealth UAVs were
in EMW / SMW as a pilot study, together with researchers from
Department of Electrical and Information Technology at Lund University. The project
finally reported in March 2005, one main start in 2007.
SIGANT project aims to research and development of technologies for
relevant air apertures and creep of these standby. Given
future development and flygfarkosters future tasks, including
electrically controlled antenna arrays (radar, communications, on-board
entertainment systems, etc.) to airframe integration. This technique involves
lower weight, smaller volume and, ultimately, better fuel economy. Another
important aim is that the hull can be more easily integrated antennas provide
air craft low radar signature.

Three apertures was constructed: 1) group which antennkaviteten integrated antenna
against a slotted hull segments, 2) wing-edge integrated 1-GHz antenna and 3)
airframe-integrated, frequency selective radome. EMW / SMW and ACAB stands for
Design and development of Aperture, colleges for assistance with
calculations as well as research on related issues. KTH the focus has
on antenna theory and wave propagation, while LU mainly studying radomes
wave propagation and scattering theory. By EMW / SMW has also Saab
Aero Systems and Saab Bofors Dynamics participated in the project.


ACAB recently updated their web and with that a couple of new photos of their activities:

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Unidentified (?) radome at the CTR.

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And if that's boring, here's a photo of 18 Gripens getting ready for the Royal flyover. Should be around 5:30pm tomorrow Saturday.

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Photo: John Lidman/Försvarsmakten.

jontew
06-18-2010, 12:57 PM
Holy ****! That last pic with 18 of them, it's just so...awesome! I wish I could be there to see it in person!

And that unidentified radome seems very interesting!

TGIF
06-18-2010, 03:11 PM
ACAB recently updated their web and with that a couple of new photos of their activities:

http://i46.*******.com/14j6rlgdotjpg
Unidentified (?) radome at the CTR.

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And if that's boring, here's a photo of 18 Gripens getting ready for the Royal flyover. Should be around 5:30pm tomorrow Saturday..

I spoke to two guys from ACAB the other weekend at Malmen. They had this radome and Gripen's original on display. According to the information in their display, this was a project together with FMV. I guess it was a study of possible future radomes and given the geometry it's for a future stealth aircraft.

Oh, and the picture of the 18 Gripens are absolutely stunning.

signatory
06-18-2010, 03:52 PM
I spoke to two guys from ACAB the other weekend at Malmen. They had this radome and Gripen's original on display. According to the information in their display, this was a project together with FMV. I guess it was a study of possible future radomes and given the geometry it's for a future stealth aircraft.



Nice.

Yeah sounds like research to support Swedish know-how to gain competetive advantages on possible future international programs just like how the FMV funded FILUR helped to give SAAB a very large design and work share position on neuron.

Did you get a feel for how 'flatsided' it looked, the online photo shows the radome tilted when viewed from the side so maybe it looks more sharp than it really is... from what you saw, think it might work with the GFF (http://www.iei.liu.se/flumes/aero/gff?l=en)design ?

TGIF
06-19-2010, 02:47 PM
Did you get a feel for how 'flatsided' it looked, the online photo shows the radome tilted when viewed from the side so maybe it looks more sharp than it really is... from what you saw, think it might work with the GFF (http://www.iei.liu.se/flumes/aero/gff?l=en)design ?
Not sure what you mean by flat sided, but my first impression was that the bottom surface was very flat (as seen on the picture) compared to the upper surface. The radome looked to be of similar size as Gripens. I wonder how that would work on the larger GFF. I guess whats the most important is the angle and position of the "seam" (where the upper and lower surfaces meet) since it has to fit with the rest of the aircraft geometry. After a quick glance at GFF, it looks possible.

Any pictures (or video) of the 18 group Gripen from the live fly over today? I was out playing golf today so I missed the whole shebang....

Wguy
06-19-2010, 04:00 PM
A couple of clips have already made it to Youtube it seems.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2GPpPumqaNE


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=36j2viuaDvw

Xzoridor
06-19-2010, 04:08 PM
I stod Guard in the beginning of the wedding unfortunately i didnt see the Gripens :(

signatory
06-19-2010, 06:22 PM
Gorgeous flight of 18... I was at just the right position, middle of flight path and 50m or so above sea level :)

Good atmosfere out there today... heard some women next to me talk with great anticipation over the coming aircraft display and how they remembered the formation at the previous wedding 1976...

TV4
http://www.youtube.com/v/Lv5N_ia04zg

SVT
http://www.youtube.com/v/p2dN-ca7hPo

signatory
06-21-2010, 12:27 PM
A from the past special : Gripen, I am your father.

Gripen is the latest operative system from a unbroken line of evolving jet fighter developments in Sweden.

The issued directives and development of its predecessor SAAB 37 "Viggen" led to a configuration that in some terms is far behind Saab 39 Gripen but in other fields fundamentally share a bottom line of military requirements. This post will highlight some of the developments.

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SAAB 37, new attributes over its predecessor included;


Tailless Delta-Canard single-engine design
Solid state digital central computer
Short take off and Landing requirement
A Joint Strike-Fighter aircraft system for all A2A and A2G roles including reconnaissance.


Initial concept studies went underway between 1952 to 1956 on over 100 different variations. The canards first arrived in 1954.

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One variation was a Tailless Delta-canard jet with backtilted vertical fin like the predecessor Saab 35 Draken. (pictured left. To the right 'Viggen'.)

With the engine finally selected in 1961 and SAAB awarded the final design directives, the program was ready to take off. The following year a model was presented to the international press at SAAB. Flight International published a drawing of that model:

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AJ37 first flew in 1967 and became the first Swedish fighter with a airborne digital computer the CK37 (Central Kalkylator) which was SAAB's 4th generation flight computer. SAAB had a forward position on airborne electronics on the market and even sold onboard equipment to the French Navy (Etendard's toss bomb computer (http://i47.*******.com/24qs6cxdotjpg)) and US Air Force during this time. Maritime attack was a operative priority for the AJ37 and the new computer removed among things the need for a separate human navigator.

The much improved JA37 Fighter-Attack version (Prod. 1977-) further more included a new generation Ericsson radar with integrated digital signal processing computer, Ericsson took the lead in Europe on fighter control radars with its innovations at the time including Europe's first multimode FCR but the market and technology was changing fast and competition from the Americans meant it wasn't a given fact that the customer would select just their future generation radar for the next aircraft system (Gripen).

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Towards the end... JA37D received the larger display even before JAS 39

Ericsson had enough to show for a cutting edge radar and was selected as prime contractor to supply the Gripen radar. Risk reduction arrived in 1981 as British based GEC-Ferranti was also looking for a strategic partner in their own competition to supply the UK armed forces with a new FCR to the Harrier jet.

The strategic partnership meant that GEC-Ferranti would take a work share on the Gripen radar, notably the forward antenna head, and Ericsson would supply the data processing modules to the Blue Vixen radar for the Harrier. The companies could fend off US and other competition with both aircraft systems receiving their radars on time.

Gripen radar on Viggen
Before Gripen had its first flight the first version of the PS-05/A Radar had already flown on Viggen (1987).

Electronic Flight Control System on Viggen
As early as 1982, even before the parliament had decided on the Gripen program a specially modified Viggen called "ESS JAS" flew a Electronic flight control system to support the development.

Viggen was used for Electronic Warfare tests and Air Combat Training to support the Gripen system throughout its final years.
Wet-Film cameras from the Viggen system is now reused in the SPK 39 reconnaissance pod for the Gripen.

Moving towards Gripen

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Sources: Here (http://www.fmv.se/upload/Bilder%20och%20dokument/Publikationer/Informationsmaterial/PROTEC/Protec04_05.pdf), Here (http://www.canit.se/~griffon/aviation/text/37viggen.htm), Here (http://www.ntva.no/seminarer/m****/eddy-270207.pdf)

Caprice
06-23-2010, 08:32 AM
New radar missile for the JAS 39C / D


The Government today decided on consent to the acquisition and integration of new missile radar for the JAS METEOR 39C / D.

Combat aviation of the Swedish defense forces stands for most of the overall air defense capability. Radar missile is a fundamental and indispensable element of this defense. When the existing radar missile RB99/AIM-120B reaches its service life between 2015 and 2018, there would be a need for a operational replacement.

(Tried to fix some translation errors.)
http://translate.google.com/translate?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.regeringen.se%2Fsb%2Fd%2F12762%2Fa%2F148591&sl=sv&tl=en&hl=&ie=UTF-8

C.

Loke2
06-23-2010, 10:34 AM
22 Jun, 2010 16:22 CET

Gripen Czech Republic Offset Programme successfully completes second contractual milestone

Gripen International has announced succesfull fulfillment of the second contractual milestone of the Programme of Industrial Cooperation accompanying the lease of 14 Gripen fighters provided by the Swedish government. According to the Annual Report on Offset performance for the calendar year 2009, approved by the Czech Ministry of Defence, the Gripen offset programme has by the December 31st 2009 generated 19.92 billion CZK of cummulative offset value for the Czech Republic.

For the calendar year 2009 transactions value of 3,68 billion CZK have been approved. The cummulative value has now reached 19.92 billion CZK since the start of the programme on June 14th 2004. This represents 78% of the total commitment. As of 31st December 2009 46 offset transactions have been registered.

“We are very pleased the Gripen offset programme continues to benefit Czech industry even in these difficult economic times,” said Bengt Littke, Gripen Programme Director – Czech Republic. “It is our ambition to bring a positive contribution to the Czech economy.”

Background:

Gripen International is committed to generate Offset and Industrial Co-operation to the value of 130 % from the Gripen fighter lease contract value, which represents 25,5 billion CZK. The Offset agreement requires a minimum direct Offset equalling 20 % of the Offset agreement value.

The second milestone states that the achieved cumulative value of the Programme shall correspond to at least 48 % of the commitment and the achieved cumulative value of Direct Transactions shall correspond to at least 9.6 %.

Gripen is a new generation fighter aircraft which employs the latest technology and the latest weapons, which delivers the capability for an extensive variety of air-to-air and air-to-surface operational missions, including recognisance missions. Gripen is in service with the Swedish, Czech, Hungarian, South African air force and in Thailand. The UK Test Pilots’ School (ETPS) is operating Gripen as its advanced fast jet platform for test pilots worldwide. Gripen is fully NATO compatible and can be deployed globally. Gripen meets the highest demands of operational deployment.

Gripen International also has successful Offset Programmes (Industrial Co-operation) in Hungary and South Africa.

http://www.cisionwire.com/saab/gripen-czech-republic-offset-programme-successfully-completes-second-contractual-milestone22437

Seems the Czech are happy with the progress.

Loke2
06-23-2010, 10:59 AM
Tuesday, June 22, 2010 7:23

São Bernardo receives, between yesterday and today, the visit of a delegation from the Swedish town of Linköping, Saab headquarters, which produces the Gripen fighter-planes - to compete with US-based Boeing (F-18 Super Hornet) and French Dassault (Rafale) contract with the Brazilian Air Force.

Should the government choose the Saab to produce 36 fighters, will invest U.S. $ 140 million in partnership with Grupo Inbrafiltro, Maua, to build a parts plant in Sao Bernardo.

The mayor of Linköping, Ann-Catherine Hjerdt, said he was impressed with the projects developed by companies located in Iesbec (Business Incubator St. Bernard) and the space for them. She believes it is possible that if Saab wins the bid, the possibility exists of the incubated companies involved in manufacturing parts for aircraft-hunting.

According to Paul Lindvall, chairman of the executive committee of Linköping, in Sweden this partnership. "For 25 years we have a technology park that supports the incubator, both located on the campus of a university," he said.

Lindvall also said the strong one is the development of high technology, and that hatcheries are involved in the process. The city built airplanes for 75 years.

For the secretary of International Relations of St. Bernard, Alexander Marcello, who accompanied the Swedish delegation on a visit to Iesbec, the incubator has the potential to participate in the technological development of fighter aircraft manufactured in the country's director of entrepreneurship, employment and income of the City of Bernardo, Nilson Tadashi Oda, agrees. According to him, Leona, one of incubated, manufactures metal alloys which, when broken, have their powder used in the production of piston and valve motor.

"This powder could be used to manufacture parts for the fighters," suggested. Another company cited was Zaps, which produces electronic circuits.
[...]

AGREEMENT
Today will be signed term bilateral cooperation in education so that there is exchange between the universities of São Bernardo and Linköping. The term should cover also the areas of health and economic development, including aeronautical and space segments.

"On one hand they contribute expertise on the other hand can offer the infrastructure and manpower," said the secretary.

Tadashi complements that if they have high technology in Brazil have flex-fuel engine, biofuels and oil exploration in the pre-salt layer to offer in return.

http://www.dgabc.com.br/News/5817195/delegacao-sueca-visita-sao-bernardo.aspx

Seems Sweden has not given up on this contract....

signatory
06-23-2010, 11:05 AM
New radar missile for the JAS 39C / D

(Tried to fix some translation errors.)
http://translate.google.com/translate?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.regeringen.se%2Fsb%2Fd%2F12762%2Fa%2F148591&sl=sv&tl=en&hl=&ie=UTF-8

C.

That's all go for Sweden and Spain... waiting for the others then afaik. Would be a shame if they couldnt agree on a big production run for all partners at the same time.



Saab comments (http://www.privataaffarer.se/nyheter/direkt/2010/06/23/saab_upphandling_ny_radarjaktrobot_gripen_vard_miljardbelopp_4464809/)

"We have the Saab Bofors Dynamics have been included in the development of the robot and we have also through our air operations played a fairly central role in the missile tested," says Linn Lichter Mann at Saab's press department to Direkt.

"This is a popular robot around the world and it is good that in discussions with potential clients on the Gripen system is able to point out that Meteor is fully integrated into the Gripen".

Saab has been in the development stage of the Meteor MBDA has received contracts from surrounding development and integration of Meteor on nearly 1.5 billion.

The new radar missile will begin shipping in 2015 and be fully committed sat 2018

signatory
06-25-2010, 05:00 PM
Commander of the Bulgarian Air Force flies Gripen

24 June 2010, in News

During a recent official visit to the Czech Republic, the Commander of the Bulgarian Air Force Major-General Konstantin Popov flew the multirole Gripen fighter.

http://www.saabgroup.com/Global/Documents%20and%20Images/About%20Saab/Newsroom/News/saab_gripen_gib_20050421135546dotjpg
Image: Czech Gripen at take-off. Photo: Per Kustvik, Condesign.

Major-General Popov was invited by Brigadier General Jiri Verner, who is Commander of the Czech Air Force. During the visit they discussed the possibilities for bilateral cooperation and the use of modern equipment by the Air Force. Brigadier General Verner acquainted his colleague with the Czech experience of operating Gripen. They also visited the training centre in Pardubice where the Czech Air Force training programmes take place.

Modernisation of the Bulgarian Air Force
Saab is committed to the process of modernising the Bulgarian Air Force and hopes for a transparent tender for the acquisition of fighters expected in 2012.

In 2004, the Czech Republic signed an agreement with Sweden regarding the lease of 14 of the latest generation Gripen aircraft (12 single-seat and 2 two-seat) for a period of ten years (2005-2015) to replace its Russian-designed MiG-21 fighters.

Saabgroup (http://www.saabgroup.com/About-Saab/Newsroom/Press-releases--News/2010---6/Commander-of-the-Bulgarian-Air-Force-flies-Gripen/)


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18 Gripens over the Royal Navy frigate HMS Kent p-)

http://www.youtube.com/v/2MWurwOZJqI

signatory
06-27-2010, 06:01 PM
NCADE - netcentric air defense element

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Photo: Stephen Trimble

Mentioned this briefly in the past but Michael Bruno at AW/ARES today posts (http://www.aviationweek.com/aw/blogs/defense/index.jsp?plckController=Blog&plckBlogPage=BlogViewPost&newspaperUserId=27ec4a53-dcc8-42d0-bd3a-01329aef79a7&plckPostId=Blog%3a27ec4a53-dcc8-42d0-bd3a-01329aef79a7Post%3a54c2c5d4-19b7-4146-825f-51523a7f3e0f&plckScript=blogScript&plckElementId=blogDest) about the Raytheon air-launched, anti-ballistic missile program NCADE.


The U.S. is fast approaching the reality of using legacy fighters armed with modern radars and extended-range AIM-120 air-to-air missiles to shoot down enemy ballistic missiles early in their flight, or even low-flying satellites.

This Raytheon document explains (http://www.marshall.org/pdf/materials/649.pdf) it all very well and identifies Sweden as well as the two NATO countries Hungary and the Czech Republic as potentional users since they fly AMRAAM equipped Gripen aircraft.

In short, it's a missile based on the AMRAAM with a Infrared seeker. NCADE applications would not be limited to just missile targets. Part of the NCADE design is the offer silent launch from networked platforms.

"If you can shoot an Amraam, you can shoot an NCADE."


Further explained: (http://www.policyarchive.org/handle/10207/bitstreams/13641.pdf)

These modifications transform traditional missiles
mounted on fighter aircraft into interceptor
missiles capable of shooting down a ballistic missile
in the earliest stage of flight.

Economic Viability. By modifying the technology
and infrastructure currently invested in
AMRAAM, Raytheon will be able to deploy NCADE
missiles economically. In fact, according to Raytheon,
the unit cost is less than $1 million per interceptor.
Overall, Raytheon projects that the five-year
(2009–2013) system design and development program
will cost only $385 million.

Operational Versatility. In addition to the
above-noted cost efficiency and developmental
ease, the NCADE interceptor also offers the military
considerable operational flexibility. For instance,
the interceptor may be launched from the following
manned aircraft:
• F-15;
• F-16;
• F-18;
• F-22;
• Eurofighter; and
• Gripen.


Gripen could therefore over time be the cost effective highly network centric light-medium fighter that can fly with both a European built radar guided BVR missile METEOR (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MBDA_Meteor) and the US buiilt NCADE (http://www.raytheon.com/newsroom/technology/pas07/ncade/) infrared seeking missile. For regional defense purposes that require quick reaction to multiple threats and surprise elements that type of versitility could prove to be interesting bonus points.

signatory
06-28-2010, 05:27 PM
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NEURON construction at SAAB Linköping

zord at the Air Power blog got some slides (http://legiero.blog.hu/2010/06/27/mit_sejtet_az_idegsejt) of the NEURON presentation Saab held recently. I'm not going into details here on that since it's merely related to the Gripen and not part of the system.

But at Saab's Capital Markets Day last month this presentation (http://www.aerotechtelub.com/Global/Documents%20and%20Images/About%20Saab/Investor%20relations/Events/CMD_2010_Lennart_Sindahl.pdf) had its own slide on how the program relates to the Gripen. While Sweden and SAAB has already developed its national UCAV stealth demonstrator the FILUR, the reasons for joining the multinational program NEURON was explained as both supporting national research (including spill overs to support Gripen) and boost its competitiveness plus to see how and if Europe could work together on such a project more smoothly than perhaps during previous attempts.

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Other random comments at the CMD from e.v.p Lennart Sindahl included the Malaysian interest to buy a complete air defense solution similar to the Thai order for Erieye+Gripen+C2+datalinks; negotiations for a 2nd Thai order; the new way of doing development for the Gripen Demonstrator that cut costs by 1/4th and actually showed a surplus on the budget (the new method is supposed to get yet less expensive on new development); that the Indian Air Force wanted to 'see the F-414 engine start at a high altitude base' (Gripen's GE F-414 was the last engine to be tested but not the only F414 in the tender) and that the IAF order "most probably" would be for 200 jets; the Swedish commitment to Gripen secures the sustainability of the program even without new exports.

jochen
06-28-2010, 06:13 PM
Anyone got more information on the Skeldar V-600 and the UAV demostrator pictured under year 2013?

signatory
06-28-2010, 06:33 PM
Anyone got more information on the Skeldar V-600 and the UAV demostrator pictured under year 2013?

Hm don't think I got info on V-600 but the other UAV looks like something along MALE.

MALE.
In 2004 Saab also initiated development of a Medium Altitude
Long Endurance UAV (MALE).The MALE is designed for combat,
surveillance and reconnaissance operations covering larger
areas and high altitudes. MALE can be used for long-range surveillance,
electronic warfare or combat missions, and for linking
communications, traffic surveillance or other public services.

oldish PDF with larger pic (http://products.saabgroup.com/pdbwebnew/GetFile.aspx?PathType=ProductFiles&FileType=Files&Id=7480)

signatory
06-29-2010, 07:15 PM
Update to the Viggen-post (http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/showthread.php?84527-Gripen-News-Thread&p=5025807&viewfull=1#post5025807) last week.

Photos of Viggen test aircraft 37-21 as ESS 01.

ESS 01; Flying a Triplex Digital Flight Control System.

Test flights began September 1982.

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ELEKTRISKT STYRSYSTEM I FPL 37 VIGGEN
Per-Olov Elgcrona
Uppsats nr 6 (http://www.saabveteran.se/cd/d17/d17u6.pdf)

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NTM-2010

NATO TIGER MEET 2010 (http://www.tigercrew.org/tigermeet/premeet.php?ntmID=49)

Host Unit: 313 squadron
Location: Vlb. Volkel
Country: Netherlands

Date: 04/10/2010 - 15/10/2010

Includes;

Czech Republic / CzAF 211 Sqn 4 x JAS-39C Gripen
Hungary / HuAF 59/1 Puma Sqn 2 x JAS-39C Gripen

signatory
06-30-2010, 12:51 PM
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Malaysia evaluating Gripen

A Malaysian delegation including two air force pilots is now at Saab Linköping. This is continuation on a RFI Malaysia sent out (http://www.flightglobal.com/articles/2010/03/25/339850/malaysia-issues-rfis-for-fighters-and-aew-aircraft.html) for new fighers and AEW aircraft.

Campaign Director and Saab test pilot Magnus Lewis-Olsson says in a radio interview that the eval is going fine.

Depending on sources, Malaysia is looking at anything from 18 to 40 fighters. Saab seems to expect 24. Competition is mainly US and Russian fighters not just for fighter reasons but also since Malaysia is looking at a AEW solution as well.


SR (http://sverigesradio.se/sida/artikel.aspx?programid=160&artikel=3817866)

signatory
07-01-2010, 09:58 AM
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Mu Ko Ang Thong, Surat Thani province; To be protected by Gripens starting next year.

MoU for cooperation among Gripen 39 aircraft users to be signed by Thailand

BANGKOK, 30 June 2010 (NNT) – The Cabinet agreed that the Defense Ministry sign a Memorandum of Understanding (MoU) for cooperation among countries using Gripen 39 fighter aircraft, while the Commander-in-Chief of the Royal Thai Air Force is authorized to sign the MoU .

The objective of the MoU is to tighten cooperation in battles and techniques among Gripen 39 users which are the Defense Ministries of countries such as the Czech Republic, Hungary, South Africa, Sweden and Thailand.

The Ministries of Foreign Affairs and Defense viewed that the MoU was not a treaty as defined in section 190 (2) of the Charter, so an approval from the Parliament would not be required. However, it must first be approved by the Cabinet with the authorization of the country's representative to sign the MOU.

News ID: 255306300031

Reporter : Panita Norasing
News Date : 30 June 2010

NNT (http://thainews.prd.go.th/en/news.php?id=255306300031)

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Race for `mother of all deals' for 126 fighters gets hotter
TNN, Jul 1, 2010, 01.37am IST

"IAF is likely to submit the exhaustive report by next week. Subsequently, a shortlist of the fighters which have done well in the field evaluation test and the staff evaluation will be made," said a source.

Article (http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/Race-for-mother-of-all-deals-for-126-fighters-gets-hotter/articleshow/6111518.cms)

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5 year anniversary

Czech Gripens began their QRA duties on July 1, 2005.

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MilanNykodym

jochen
07-03-2010, 07:23 AM
Just i quick movie with Gripen NG flying i saw on youtube, to me Gripen NG visually seem more powerful...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=erqbJw4VqO8

Credit to pilotdynan (http://www.youtube.com/user/pilotdynan)

Allesmor Obranna
07-03-2010, 02:32 PM
I don't belive it! It was the first public demo for the Gripen NG, and only two low quality or incredible short video on youtube and a few pictures on the net the all result. Why?

Caprice
07-03-2010, 06:46 PM
India orders radar(CARABAS) to track movement in thick forests.


Sources said the first CARABAS ground imaging system, developed by Swedish firm Saab, would be delivered within the next three months and engineers from the two countries will work together to integrate it on board the Indian helicopter.

Indian scientists, sources said, would work on tweaking the radar that is currently being operated from fixed-wing aircraft by Sweden. A DRDO team will be visiting testing facilities in Sweden in August to observe the technology in action and carry out integration tests on the system.The move comes after several radars and systems, demonstrated to Indian authorities for ground imaging in densely forested areas in recent months, failed to cut the grade. Indian authorities have tested British, Israeli and American systems in the past few months but results have been discouraging.http://www.indianexpress.com/news/govt-orders-radar-to-track-movement-in-thick-forests/641253/

The Gripen connection:


Saab also offer a number of interesting accessories for the Gripen IN, such as a pod with a CARABAS radar. What this does is you get a reconnaissance capsule that is useful day and night, in all weathers, and which is insensitive to camouflage.http://translate.google.com/translate?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwisemanswisdoms.blogspot.com%2F2009%2F02%2Fgripen-in-och-dess-chanser.html&sl=sv&tl=en&hl=&ie=UTF-8

Perhaps not decisive in the MMRCA competition but no disadvantage either, I think(If true that is.).

C.

signatory
07-03-2010, 06:58 PM
India orders radar(CARABAS) to track movement in thick forests.

Perhaps not decisive in the MMRCA competition but no disadvantage either, I think(If true that is.).


The move comes after several radars and systems, demonstrated to Indian authorities for ground imaging in densely forested areas in recent months, failed to cut the grade. Indian authorities have tested British, Israeli and American systems in the past few months but results have been discouraging.

C.

Yeah it's a positive development.

I wrote a Carabas special here (http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/showthread.php?84527-Gripen-News-Thread&p=4095171&viewfull=1#post4095171) where I also mentioned the Gripen version. And another special on the tests in Thailand. (http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/showthread.php?84527-Gripen-News-Thread&p=4240602&viewfull=1#post4240602) which includes FMV comments on the Gripen version. (that last post also has a gorgeous photo of Typhoon and Gripen refueling from a A310MRTT at the same time... if someone missed it.)

Carabas anti-IED functionallity is apparently drawing plenty of foreign interest atm.


The Gripen version.

From 2005 Ericsson Microwave Systems and Sweden's Defence Research Agency FOI began studies to produce a version for the fighter jet Gripen and other smaller platforms such as UAVs. A small tactical UAV proposed by SAAB (now owner of Ericsson MW) would at 5000 meters standoff cover 100 square meters per second. A high altitude UAV is said to be able to cover 2 sq. km / s.

@Allesmor Obranna, it wasn't pre-announced afaik... dropped in, and took off. I dont know for how long it stayed and it wasn't available for walk-ups either from what I can tell.

Caprice
07-03-2010, 07:34 PM
Yeah it's a positive development.

Fingers crossed then... :)

C.

signatory
07-03-2010, 07:57 PM
Fingers crossed then... :)

C.

Yup!

Here's more... with images of a helicopter version. (http://www.stratpost.com/saab-offers-drdo-underground-radar)

signatory
07-04-2010, 01:54 PM
- Some missed pieces from the week -

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2:42 - Scheiße!

http://www.youtube.com/v/GdiraGMWK94&hl=sv_SE&fs=1?rel=0&hd=1
UL: SoltauCruiser
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Saab will bid for Indian contracts with local partner

Ashwini Phadnis

New Delhi, June 29

The Swedish fighter aircraft manufacturer, Saab will henceforth bid for Indian contracts only with a local partner, senior company officials said on Tuesday.

“From now on we will bid for Indian contracts only with a local partner either by forming a joint venture or through a teaming agreement. We will share technology and localise production. India will be a future home for us,” the Senior Vice President and General Manager Industrial Cooperation, Mr Andreas von der Heide, told Business Line.

Offset clause

The company, which is one of the contenders for the 126 fighter jets that the Indian Air Force is to acquire, has indicated that it could be better for India if the Government looked at industrial cooperation rather than concentrate on the offset clause.

An offset clause requires the seller of equipment to ensure that a percentage of the contract value remains in the purchasing country.

On tech transfer

The Swedish company is also willing to transfer technology to Indian companies although the transfer will not be counted for calculating the offset commitment.

“We will meet the offset clause. But if Indian industry is to develop, then the industrial cooperation route is much better. This will help Indian industry be a partner with Saab say in developing the next generation of fighters,” the Country head, Mr Inderjit Sial said.

The company has also decided to make India a ‘home market,' making it only the third global country after South Africa, Sweden and Australia to be thus branded.

link (http://www.thehindubusinessline.com/2010/06/30/stories/2010063051800200.htm)


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Another thing I noticed, on some forums a 7 month old unsourced propaganda piece from the FAB campaign has been discussed as if it was very recent news out of that tender... I know it's tiresome to wait for a decision.. but jeez come on. :|

signatory
07-07-2010, 07:47 PM
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DATE:06/07/10
SOURCE:Flight International
South Africa, Brazil ready for A-Darter missile test

A South African Air Force Saab Gripen D fighter is expected to perform the first live firing of an A-Darter short-range air-to-air missile later this month, advancing a joint project with Brazilian industry.

Continues (http://www.flightglobal.com/articles/2010/07/06/344104/south-africa-brazil-ready-for-a-darter-missile-test.html)

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Swedish Defence and US Air Forces about to test Bio Jet fuel

The Swedish Defence and the US Air Forces are about to order 60,000-70,000 liters of Swedish Biofuels (http://www.swedishbiofuels.se/home/)’ biowaste-based “Bio Jet” fuel.

The order will, according to the Swedish technical weekly Ny Teknik, be placed this summer or autumn and will be tested in the fuelsystem and engine of the Swedish fighter jet JAS 39 Gripen. The tests will be done on Gripen’s new General Electric GE 414 engine and is a cooperation between the Swedish Defence Materiel Administration (FMV) and the US Air Force Research Laboratory (AFRL).

Swedish Biofuel, run by a rocketfuel expert and professor and his daughter, has been developing biobased jet fuel “SB JP-8” (Swedish Biofuels JP-8) for the last two years. The development has partly been financed by US Darpa. Results from early laboratory tests at DARPA are promising - the SB JP-8 fulfill and even surpass quality and specifications of the military jet fuel “JP-8”.

As a base in its biofuel, Swedish Biofuels uses waste fusel oil from ethanol production. The company has registered more than 40 biofuel technology patents. - Via

link (http://www.cleanindex.se/startups/article/swedish-biofuels-swedish-defence-and-us-air-forces-about-test-bio-jet)

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G-T:


American fighter aircraft may be flown on the Swedish biofuel
Report
Published June 21, 2010 - 20:44
Updated June 22, 2010 - 13:39

U.S. invests tens of millions in the small Swedish company Swedish Biofuels - in search of new propellants. And that may be more export opportunities when interest in Swedish environmental technology is great.

-For me it is simply idiot proof. If we make progress in this area it is good for the economy, the environment and it can create jobs in both the U.S. and in Sweden. Demand is high, "said Matthew Barzun U.S. ambassador.

Green was the color of the day when the U.S. ambassador came to the airport on field trips. There is great interest for Swedish environmental technology and the first practical military cooperation.

U.S. Department of Defense has invested 50 million crowns in the company Swedish Biofuels. The goal is an environment-friendly biofuels to include combat aircraft. The support comes from DARPA, a subdivision of the U.S. military.

A full bio-jet fuel would be great. 90 percent of the fuel for Air Force use are of this type, so it could have a large economic impact, "said Matthew Barzun U.S. ambassador.

The plan is to test the fuel in the Swedish Jas Gripen fighters in experiments led by the Defence Materiel Administration. In autumn, you should contact the parties involved, including Swedish Biofuels, Volvo Aero, Saab Aerosystems, and General Electric. The goal is to launch a production in Sweden for 1.5 years. The fuel is made from wood waste and is meant to fully replace fossil fuels.

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Angelica Hull, CEO & Inventor @ Swedish Biofuels

- The fuel can be used not only for combat aircraft, but also to civil aviation and automobiles, "said Angelica Hull, founder and owner of the Swedish Biofuels, to report.

The government hopes the new export industries, but no promises of new investment was not the case today.

- Environmental Exports will increase, and the business has performed well also during the financial crisis. There is great demand, and then it would be a good thing for Sweden could be the leader in at least some of these areas, "said Enterprise and Energy Maud Olofsson (C).

But the question is when it becomes profitable.

- We are already seeing a profit, it's always worthwhile to save energy, "says Frederick Jaresved head of sustainable development at Heathrow Airport.

- Sweden Thank you for combining economic growth with the best for the environment, "added U.S. ambassador Matthew Barzun

Swedish link (http://svt.se/2.22620/1.2050784/amerikanska_stridsflygplan_kan_komma_flygas_pa_svenskt_biobransle)

Swedish Biofuels Receives Second Tranche of DARPA Funding (May 4, 2009)
US Embassy (http://stockholm.usembassy.gov/pr_05042009.html)





Angelica’s Green Dream: A Green Fuel For Any Combustion Engine
2010/01/17

“I don’t really like to call it biofuel, because it is just fuel, but made from biomass. The only difference is that it doesn’t have any CO2 exhausts,” she says, adding that it is cleaner and more efficient than biofuel alternatives based on fatty acids and palm oil.

Full Article: Swe-US chamber (http://sacc-usa.org/currents/business/angelica%E2%80%99s-green-dream/)

Kongjun33
07-07-2010, 08:10 PM
We heard somewhere that Saab used many ways to convince its customers.... According to the (kinda laughable) picture of the Ma'am Angelica, I have no doubt now! lol


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DATE:06/07/10
SOURCE:Flight International
South Africa, Brazil ready for A-Darter missile test

A South African Air Force Saab Gripen D fighter is expected to perform the first live firing of an A-Darter short-range air-to-air missile later this month, advancing a joint project with Brazilian industry.

Continues (http://www.flightglobal.com/articles/2010/07/06/344104/south-africa-brazil-ready-for-a-darter-missile-test.html)

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G-T:

signatory
07-07-2010, 08:47 PM
We heard somewhere that Saab used many ways to convince its customers.... According to the (kinda laughable) picture of the Ma'am Angelica, I have no doubt now! lol

Has nothing to do with Saab you poor little misogynist.

Giorgi001
07-08-2010, 03:26 PM
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DATE:06/07/10
SOURCE:Flight International
South Africa, Brazil ready for A-Darter missile test

A South African Air Force Saab Gripen D fighter is expected to perform the first live firing of an A-Darter short-range air-to-air missile later this month, advancing a joint project with Brazilian industry.

Continues (http://www.flightglobal.com/articles/2010/07/06/344104/south-africa-brazil-ready-for-a-darter-missile-test.html)

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G-T:

Grate news!!!

About Swedish biofuel too!

signatory
07-10-2010, 03:40 AM
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July/August edition of DTI (http://www.zinio.com/reader.jsp?issue=416131818)

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@Saab

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@Skyman: Will reply soon...

Skyman
07-11-2010, 09:47 AM
@Skyman: Will reply soon...

:)

Renovating Wing7

Since F-5 is a 3 generation fighter and Gripen is 4.5. Some renovation need to be conducted. Here is an update of Wing7 renovation as of last week. The building include 701 sqn. HQ (Gripen), 702 sqn. HQ (Argus), joint operation building, Gripen maintenance buildin, & ATC tower.


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Youtube VDO

http://www.youtube.com/v/EiEoIfyUN_Y

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RTAF Selects IRIS-T

During the press conference, Commander-in-Chief of RTAF ACM Itta**** said publicly that RTAF select IRIS-T as its next gen short range missile. I think contract should be award next fiscal year starting this October. woot

So high chance for Meteor. :lol:

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signatory
07-12-2010, 01:20 PM
@ Skyman, Good to see confirmation on IRIS-T!

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Gripen customer: Thailand (http://www.saabgroup.com/en/Air/Gripen-Fighter-System/Gripen-for-Thailand/)

http://img38.imageshack.us/img38/3518/saabgripenth1009362dotjpg


@ jontew , got a telescoptic camera lens yet... ? You will need it next month :)

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SAAB INVESTS IN COMPOSITE CENTRE

12 July 2010, in News

Saab has a long history of being at the forefront when it comes to composites. Now, Saab is further consolidating this position with the creation of a composite centre. The centre contains state of the art technology and has been developed to create the most optimal flow possible.

"There are few companies in the aerospace industry with composite production as effective as the one we have at Saab. We have always been at the forefront when it comes to developing new composite technology. Now we have further intensified our commitment by focusing our composite efforts in a composite centre that incorporates state of the art technology, and that is also adapted for the most efficient flow possible," says Kjell Johnsson, Vice President and head of Aerostructures.

http://www.saabgroup.com/Global/Documents%20and%20Images/Commercial%20Aeronautics/tapel%c3%a4ggare_212x266dotjpg
The automatic tape laying machine can lay up more than 15 kg of carbon fibre tape every hour.

The composite centre includes an automatic tape laying machine that reduces the lay up costs. The machine also reduces material waste. In addition, it provides a time-optimised and quality assured approach in which FOD, Foreign Object Damage, can be avoided in the lay up process.

The machine performs the same procedure as for manual lay up, but the uncut carbon fibre tape is kept on wide rolls. The automatic tape laying machine is programmed to cut and lay up the carbon fibre tape in a particular order to create the part.

The machine is 13 metres wide and 36 metres long with a working area extending 30 metres in length, more than 5 metres in width and almost one metre in height.

To improve efficiency within composites, Saab has undertaken a number of new investments in machinery in recent years. These have included a new cutting machine, a "Hot-Drape-Forming" machine and a new NC trimming machine has been recently installed.

"Composites are the future within commercial aviation, and those who aren't at the forefront in this area will face difficulties competing for future business. It is also extremely positive that we have created a dedicated trial group in the area of composites whose task is simply to try out new technologies with regard to new tools, processes and materials," says Kjell Johnsson.

Saab is focusing on developing the future of composite technology through projects such as Clean Sky, in which it has a leading role in the subproject Smart Fixed Wing Aircraft together with Airbus. "Saab has always been good staying ahead in the composites field and projects like Clean Sky ensure that we will continue to do so," says Kjell Johnsson.

SAAB GROUP (http://www.saabgroup.com/About-Saab/Newsroom/Press-releases--News/2010---7/Saab-invests-in-composite-centre/)

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Some general updates on the Gripen pages at saabgroup.com (http://www.saabgroup.com/en/Air/Gripen-Fighter-System/)

Gripen Campagin: India (http://www.saabgroup.com/Air/Gripen-Fighter-System/Gripen-for-India/)

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ES 05 Raven


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signatory
07-13-2010, 08:42 AM
FARNBOROUGH: Saab plots bright future for Gripen programme
By Bartosz Glowacki
DATE:13/07/10
SOURCE:Flight International

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"Now for the Flygvapnet [Swedish air force] the cost per flight hour is less than $3,000 and for the export customers it will be less than $5,000, including maintenance, spare parts, fuel and manpower."

[...]

Trials were made in the harsh environmental conditions at Leh air base, 10,800ft above sea level in the Himalayas. During the day, the temperature was as high as 49°C (120°F).

"The aircraft was loaded with full fuel tanks and IRIS-T missiles. Eight sorties were made in India, both by Swedish and Indian air force pilots," de la Motte says.

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The Sea Gripen will not be developed by Sweden alone, due to its lack of an aircraft carrier, but potential partners could include Brazil and India, who have been offered to do work in their own countries.

De la Motte says the "cost of that programme will be a couple of billion Swedish crowns; more than one billion. It will be half of the Gripen NG's development programme cost."

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Sweden's decades-long history of innovation in the aerospace sector is also evidenced by its Generic Future Fighter (GFF) concept.

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Full Article (http://www.flightglobal.com/articles/2010/07/13/343778/farnborough-saab-plots-bright-future-for-gripen-programme.html)

signatory
07-14-2010, 07:35 PM
Wadda show

Record crowds flock to RAF event

[..]

13 July 2010

Air show judges awarded the prize for the best display to the Czech Gripen, which wowed the crowds with a very aggressive demonstration.

RAF (http://www.rafnews.co.uk/readstory.asp?storyID=641)

http://www.youtube.com/v/JFll7psjUlk
Stormcab
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Gripen at Royal International Air Tattoo

Three Gripen fighter planes from the Swedish Air Force touched down at RAF Fairford this afternoon after flying in non-stop from their home base at Satenas in Western Sweden. The aircraft belong to the Skaraborg Wing which is named after an old Swedish county, itself named after a well-known fortress just outside the city of Skara.

+ SAAB is bringing in the Gripen NG Demonstrator for static.

airtattoo (http://www.airtattoo.com/airshow/Newsroom/news/GRIPENS_SPICE_UP_FLYING_DISPLAY)

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signatory
07-15-2010, 10:53 AM
International public debut of Gripen NG Demonstrator

http://www.gripen.com/NR/rdonlyres/5854E88F-7EE1-42E3-A952-C74D31B2042D/10906/NGDemofin454dotjpg

Gripen NG Demonstrator will be displayed to the public for the first time outside Sweden. The event will take place in the UK during the Royal International Air Tattoo (RIAT) in Fairford 17–18 July and the following week at the Farnborough International Airshow


[...]

to date it has conducted more than 175 sucessful flights.

Gripen (http://www.gripen.com/en/MediaRelations/News/2010/international_public_debut_of_gripen_ng_demonstrator.htm)

JohanGrön
07-19-2010, 06:30 AM
According to Aviation Week's Farnborough blog (http://www.aviationweek.com/aw/blogs/farnborough/?plckBlogId=Blog%3aaf81e61b-7188-4a72-8f39-d3869b7980c2) the Swedish air force inspector general Maj Gen Anders Silwer confirmed in London on Sunday that there is a firm, budgeted plan to modernize Sweden's Gripen force to the Next Generation configuration.


The Demo's presence here reflects the fact that Saab and the Swedish government are talking more openly about the fact that the JAS 39E/F is a launched program. The outcome of the current international competitions will affect when, not whether the new aircraft enters service with the Swedish air force. (Full story here.) (http://www.aviationweek.com/aw/generic/story_generic.jsp?channel=dti&id=news/dti/2010/07/01/DT_07_01_2010_p41-236114.xml)

Swedish air force inspector general Maj Gen Anders Silwer said in London on Sunday that a formal political decision to proceed with the JAS 39E/F, as the NG is designated in Sweden, would be taken in 2011 or 2012 but that "the money is allocated in the ten-year plan". This would result in the first eight aircraft becoming operational in 2020. However, development and service entry will be brought forward if an export customer acquires the aircraft.

The switch to the bigger, faster aircraft allows the air force to increase range while carrying Meteor missiles, a heavier Selex active electronically scanned array (AESA) radar and an infrared search and track system.

The current political climate is favourable to Sweden's military, which has accepted a rapid downsizing in exchange for a robust modernization program. (Other new big-ticket items include submarines and self-propelled guns.) With an election this fall, one observer notes, the main parties "are fighting to be seen as the most armed-forces-friendly."

link (http://www.aviationweek.com/aw/blogs/farnborough/?plckController=Blog&plckBlogPage=BlogViewPost&newspaperUserId=af81e61b-7188-4a72-8f39-d3869b7980c2&plckPostId=Blog%3aaf81e61b-7188-4a72-8f39-d3869b7980c2Post%3a3af0457c-0419-4628-862b-808d865efc26&plckScript=blogScript&plckElementId=blogDest)

signatory
07-19-2010, 06:51 AM
Adding some photos from RIAT.

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Gripen NG Demo; Photo: Robert Stokes

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Gripen D; Photo: rucky

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Gripen D; Photo:S.w.a.g

signatory
07-19-2010, 08:39 AM
More from AW today...


Thai Gripens To Be Operational In 2011

Jul 19, 2010
By Robert Wall wall@aviationweek.com
LONDON

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Thailand is initially buying six Gripens, with a plan to grow that to 12 aircraft. Further purchases are possible, but will have to await the first operational experiences with the fighter in Thailand, says Wing Cdr. Jackkrit Thammavichai, who will be the first squadron commander. However, he says, “I foresee no problem” in making the case for more aircraft.

[..]

Thammavichai says the experience to transition former F-5 and F-16 pilots has been good, with the aircraft “easy to fly.” The flight control system is “very smooth,” and the human-machine interface “well designed.”

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AW (http://www.aviationweek.com/aw/generic/story_generic.jsp?channel=defense&id=news/awx/2010/07/19/awx_07_19_2010_p0-241957.xml&headline=Thai%20Gripens%20To%20Be%20Operational%20In%202011)

Photos from World Cup airspace security

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All photos: Frans Dely.

(Not sure if the forum lets you see the full-size photos as an option.. if not, just use "show image" in the browser menu or drag them to another browser-window)

signatory
07-20-2010, 03:01 PM
FARNBOROUGH

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Gripen NG Demo lands at Farnborough. Photo: Peter Liander (cropped)


Svensson noted that the Swedish government continues to invest healthily in the next-generation Gripen NG variant, which will carry an AESA radar, new engine, and more fuel. Development contracts will total more than 3 billion SEK ($408 million) for 2010, he said.

Defensenews (http://defensenews.com/blogs/farnborough/2010/07/20/saab%E2%80%99s-next-ceo-eyes-growth-in-u-s/)

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Successful A- Darter missile firings with SA Gripen

20 July 2010, in News

Saab has successfully carried out an important stage in the A-Darter missile programme with the first test firing verifying the integration between the missile and the Gripen aircraft.

http://www.saabgroup.com/Global/Documents%20and%20Images/Air/Gripen/missile_A-darterdotjpg

Full Press Release (http://www.saabgroup.com/en/About-Saab/Newsroom/Press-releases--News/2010---7/Successful-A--Darter-missile-firings-with-SA-Gripen/)

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First European step towards the military aerospace beyond 2035

20 July 2010, in Press Release

An initial roadmap for Future Air System (FAS) for the industrial and technological base of future European military aerospace is now underway. The objective of the study is to identify the key industrial capabilities together with a proposed implementation plan. Saab and the European Defence Agency (EDA) signed today, at Farnborough air show, a contract regarding the strategic study.

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The FAS4Europe one year study will identify and propose the collaborative actions Governments need to take to safeguard Europe’s ability to independently provide competitive aerospace solutions to meet the Common Security and Defence Policy (CSDP) capability requirements in the 2035 time perspective. The study will in summary cover the following areas:

· Prepare an initial roadmap identifying the key industrial capabilities in the EDTIB
· Implementation plan for the next ten years with prioritized actions

“Saab is very honoured to be the company in lead of this study, representing a major part of the European Aeronautic Industry. It is very encouraging that EDA has launched this important strategic study regarding our challenging joint future regarding European FAS capabilities. We appreciate the engagement the stakeholder community has shown in supporting our proposal. The study will be very broad and include several work shops involving relevant stakeholders to ensure to get the appropriate input for the analysis and final report” says Lennart Sindahl, Senior Vice President Saab AB and Head of business area Aeronautics.

* FAS4Europe Subcontractors:

· Saab AB (lead company and main contractor)
· Alenia Aeronatica S.p.A (Alenia)
· Association of the aviation manufactures of the Czech Republic (ALV ČR)
· ASG Luftfahrttechnik und Sensorik GmbH (ASG Luftfahrttechnik und
Sensorik GmbH)
· BAE Systems (BAES)
· Dassault Aviation (Dassault)
· EADS CONSTRUCCIONES AERONAUTICAS, S.A.U (EADS CASA)
· EADS Deutschland GmbH, Military (EADS-MAS)
· ESD-Partners (ESD-Partners)
· Hellenic Aerospace Industry S.A. (HAI)
· Patria Aviation Oy (Patria)
· SELEX Galileo Ltd (SELEX Galileo)
· Thales Systemes Aeroportes S.A. (Thales)
· Westland Helicopters Limited (AgustaWestland)

Full Press Release (http://www.saabgroup.com/en/About-Saab/Newsroom/Press-releases--News/First-European-step-towards-the-military-aerospace-beyond-2035/)

signatory
07-20-2010, 04:28 PM
And more.... nice to see that the follow on to the prototype aesa is on its way. (the prototype is being upgraded several times during the development program)

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DATE:20/07/10
SOURCE:Flight Daily News
FARNBOROUGH: Gripen NG to fly in for show debut
By Craig Hoyle

[...]

With the current gap in flight testing, the NG's prototype Raven 1000P active electronically scanned array radar has been removed following the aircraft's return from India, and is now with Selex Galileo in Edinburgh, Scotland. The company will deliver its first pre-production radar to Saab in the third quarter of 2011.

Selex vice-president marketing and sales Bob Mason says the Raven's high-resolution synthetic aperture radar was assessed during the test campaign, along with its air-to-air search capabilities.

Saab-led Gripen International says its two-seat demonstrator had flown 175 times before arriving in the UK. Also featuring a more powerful engine, extended-range performance and an expanded range of air-launched weapons, the aircraft made its first flight in May 2008.

source (http://www.flightglobal.com/articles/2010/07/20/344681/farnborough-gripen-ng-to-fly-in-for-show-debut.html)


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Gripen version MS20 runs between 2012-2015 and multi-target all-weather precision air to ground strike is one special capability requirement on order from the Swedish customer, just what the swashplate AESA will be especially good at. Another requirement is very long range A2A detection. So we'll see if/when/how many...

signatory
07-21-2010, 06:23 AM
More on the A-Darter firing:


The test followed a series of programme flight tests where the missile had to fly a series of pre-determined routes, or circuits, “and it is very extreme, left, right up down, all the difficult manoeuvres. But it doesn't engage a target. You are exercising its manoeuvrability. Can it pull the G's etcetera. That was done by February,” Wessels adds.

“In parallel the so-called integration missiles that went to Saab. So they have in Sweden already integrated the missile with the structure of the aircraft, the mechanical integration of the missile with the aircraft and with the avionics, which is very complex on the Gripen. They conducted a series of flight tests where they flew with this missile in extreme angles of attack up to 12G, (12 times standard earth gravity) and up to 13 700m in altitude to ensure the aircraft wasn't damaged.” The firing of the missile off the aircraft will be tested as a separate activity but it is these days fairly predictable.

“The rest of the programme is now qualification and industrialisation. So the real technology has all been solved. On a programme like this those were the risks. On a fifth generation missile like this there were many things we had never done. They have all now been ticked off. Now we can increase the reliability and maturity of the system.

defenseweb (http://www.defenceweb.co.za/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=9005:a-darter-successfully-launched-off-saaf-gripen-&catid=35:Aerospace&Itemid=107)

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Jane's teaser:


Thailand and Saab close to concluding extended Gripen purchase
The Royal Thai Air Force (RTAF) and the government of Sweden are expecting to finalise shortly their negotiations over the RTAF's purchase of a ...
20-Jul-2010


JDN (http://jdin.janes.com/public/jdin/index.shtml)

On or after Aug 18?

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Ainonline articles that mostly just sums up some news...

Gripen NG matures and waits for India

By: David Donald
July 20, 2010
Military Aircraft

Sweden is advancing its own Gripen development path alongside that of the Gripen Next Generation aircraft intended for export, which is currently awaiting the outcome of major competitions in Brazil and India. The Swedish air force is now talking openly about a JAS 39E/F version that would draw on many of the technologies being applied to the NG program.

Article (http://www.ainonline.com/news/single-news-page/article/gripen-ng-matures-and-waits-for-india-25411/)

Gripen Goes Green

By: David Donald
July 20, 2010
Military Aircraft

Sweden is currently outlining a three-year test plan to test a locally developed biofuel in a Gripen, in a scheme that is partly funded by the U.S. Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency (DARPA). In November 2007, Swedish Biofuels entered into an agreement with U.S. defense technology agency, which is funding several development programs to produce military-grade biofuel from a variety of sources, including algae- and cellulose-based raw materials.

Source (http://www.ainonline.com/news/single-news-page/article/gripen-goes-green-25413/)

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More work for Selex?

Page 70 on ShowNews from FARN10 (http://se.zinio.com/reader.jsp?issue=416133050&o=ext) :

http://img62.imageshack.us/img62/6799/farn10ed2dotjpg

Also in separate article; Selex Galileo Eyes More Gripen NG Work (http://www.aviationweek.com/aw/generic/story_generic.jsp?topicName=india&id=news/awx/2010/07/15/awx_07_15_2010_p0-241206.xml&headline=Selex%20Galileo%20Eyes%20More%20Gripen%20NG%20Work) but without direct quotes.

JohanGrön
07-22-2010, 07:23 AM
Some tidbits from AviationWeek's Farnborough blog :

Swashplate designed AESAs brings full power in off-boresight X-band jamming (http://www.aviationweek.com/aw/blogs/farnborough/?plckController=Blog&plckBlogPage=BlogViewPost&newspaperUserId=af81e61b-7188-4a72-8f39-d3869b7980c2&plckPostId=Blog%3aaf81e61b-7188-4a72-8f39-d3869b7980c2Post%3a8d9e460c-f5b9-4371-84ac-3dee7234a775&plckScript=blogScript&plckElementId=blogDest)
... Another aspect of the electronic battle is reflected in the design of the wide-field-of-regard active electronically scanned array (AESA) radar for the Typhoon. Like other AESAs, the Captor-E radar can be used as a high-power jammer in X-band - used by fighter radars and some SAM tracking radars - but fixed array AESAs requre the pilot to keep closing with the threat in order to jam it, which is counterproductive and not good practice. The swashplate "repositioner" on the Typhoon and Gripen radars allows the radar to deliver full power off-boresight.

No decision on F-X2 before Brazilian election (http://www.aviationweek.com/aw/blogs/farnborough/?plckController=Blog&plckBlogPage=BlogViewPost&newspaperUserId=af81e61b-7188-4a72-8f39-d3869b7980c2&plckPostId=Blog%3aaf81e61b-7188-4a72-8f39-d3869b7980c2Post%3afb85660f-c92b-4f3e-9b7b-65bcf54c82cb&plckScript=blogScript&plckElementId=blogDest)
The Brazilian government will not make a decision on the F-X2 fighter competition before presidential elections in the country in the fall, predicts the Brazilian air force chief of staff, Lt. Gen. Saito. He indicates a decision may have been made, but will be handed off by president Lula to his replacement. Saito will not say which aircraft he prefers. ...

Also from Stephen Trimbles The DEW Line (http://www.flightglobal.com/blogs/the-dewline/2010/07/farn10-brazil-af-delays-f-x2-c-1.html)
... In response to questions, Saito also said the F-X fighter decision would be delayed until after elections in Brazil in October, pushing contract award for 36 fighters a full year behind schedule. ...


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0BldCwo5PIw
Lt Gen Junito Saito second from left, responding to direct question about his preference at 3:05 into the clip (anyone fluent in Portuguese?).

Ps. It's raining this morning in Farnborough, let's hope it is clearing up before todays airshow program (http://www.flightglobal.com/air-shows/farnborough/flying/) begins at 13:45 (GMT+dst). But if you already watched it yesterday it's the same program. [EDIT] No Vulcan today

signatory
07-22-2010, 06:05 PM
Brazilian and Indian officials visit Gripen NG Demo

http://img822.imageshack.us/img822/6228/demonfab7dotjpg

Air Force Chief Juniti Saito of the FAB together with Indian minister of State for Defense Mr. M M Pallam Raju, Indian Air Force Air Marshal Mukerji SAC and Secretery Defence Poduction Mr. R K Singh.

Eddy de la Motte from Saab and Swedish Air Force Chief Gen Anders Silwer.

Via: Livefist
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Gripen NG Decoy Decision Nears

Jul 21, 2010

By Robert Wall wall@aviationweek.com
FARNBOROUGH

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The Gripen NG will have a fiber-optic towed decoy as a baseline subsystem to help defeat radar-guided missile threats. A towed decoy is only an option on the current model, but the supplier choice is pending for the subsystem on the NG, says Eddy de la Motte, a Gripen International program official.

Meanwhile, Saab is currently trying out different cockpit concepts for what the avionics setup should look like. That process also is expected to wrap up soon. Having completed two trial periods with the Gripen NG demonstrator, the aircraft will now go into a layup period to be modified into an avionics testbed. The aircraft is expected to return to flight next year, de la Motte says. The demonstrator so far has logged 175 flight hours.

In turn, Gripen officials are keeping a close watch on the international marketplace, where they are tracking 17 countries for potential sales opportunities. A couple more opportunities are expected to emerge this year.

[..]

AW (http://www.aviationweek.com/aw/generic/story_generic.jsp;AVNOWJSESSIONID=MIgZ92CIqhJNtfcv2oZGMxLxyWTjqOjPAWesm143bRJ5iYEwYnM5!756790295?specialEvent=farn10&id=news%2Fawx%2F2010%2F07%2F21%2Fawx_07_21_2010_p0-242689.xml&headline=Gripen+NG+Decoy+Decision+Nears)

signatory
07-23-2010, 12:15 AM
Abso-f***ing-lutely awesome woot

European weapons with awesome capability. Rb15F, METEOR, IRIS-T. That's how I expect the Thai Gripens too look like some day p-)

http://img38.imageshack.us/img38/6822/rb15gripedotjpg

Farnborough Press stuff.

Press conference with President and CEO Åke Svensson. (http://www.saabgroup.com/Global/Documents%20and%20Images/About%20Saab/Marketing/Farnborough_%20Press_%20Conference_%c3%85ke_S.pdf)

Saab UAS programmes (http://www.saabgroup.com/Global/Documents%20and%20Images/About%20Saab/Marketing/Aeronautics_Media_Briefing.pdf)

Gripen update (http://www.saabgroup.com/Global/Documents%20and%20Images/About%20Saab/Marketing/Gripen_Briefing_%20Farnborough_%202010.pdf)

Selected frames:

http://img135.imageshack.us/img135/6233/ngfactsdotjpg

http://img829.imageshack.us/img829/239/accessdotjpg

http://img689.imageshack.us/img689/6701/aware2dotjpg

Saab-Selex, over 110 years of fire control radar experience between the two..
http://img62.imageshack.us/img62/8733/raven1ldotjpg

Raven SAR
http://img684.imageshack.us/img684/4938/sar1jdotjpg

http://img130.imageshack.us/img130/8478/sar2dotjpg

jaegermeistr
07-23-2010, 04:36 AM
Could someone explain in plain english what a "fiber-optic towed decoy as a baseline subsystem to help defeat radar-guided missile threats", actually is and how it works.
and awsome post signatory, <3

signatory
07-23-2010, 05:27 AM
Could someone explain in plain english what a "fiber-optic towed decoy as a baseline subsystem to help defeat radar-guided missile threats", actually is and how it works.
and awsome post signatory, <3

Thanks :)

http://img535.imageshack.us/img535/4431/bo2ddotjpg
Saab BO2D Towed decoy

It means they now plan to add expendable towed decoys as standard equipment that would be plugged into the aircraft similar to how chaffs and flare boxes are inserted when required. The decoys is released in flight and towed some 100 meters behind the aircraft to fool radar systems. It moves the focus of enemy RF-sensors from the aircraft itself to a decoy.

The aircraft communicates with the decoys to tell them what to do such as create false targets, disrupt sensors or create a radar target the jet itself can hide under. The idea is not directly so that missiles should hit the decoy... but IF jamming techniques don't work the missiles should go towards the decoy. Such as, if the aircraft detects a SAM launch he could climb and put the decoy between himself and that missile, a radar guided missile with terminal radar guidance will not really know anything else but to go for the decoy. To further extend the distance the pilot could cut the line and the decoy will continue to transmit in free fall using its battery power. Another way could be in BVR combat where you want to put decoys between yourself and a threat... such as when you're exiting the fight or simply out to fool threats to let your non-emitting friends find new positions. Something like this anyway...

jaegermeistr
07-23-2010, 01:00 PM
awsome stuff man

Skyman
07-23-2010, 04:14 PM
Abso-f***ing-lutely awesome woot

European weapons with awesome capability. Rb15F, METEOR, IRIS-T. That's how I expect the Thai Gripens too look like some day p-)


I hope too. woot

signatory
07-23-2010, 08:30 PM
FARN10

DATE:23/07/10
SOURCE:Flight Daily News
FARNBOROUGH: Gripen hits back at 'paper aeroplane' slurs
By Craig Hoyle

[...]

Saab assembled representatives from supplier companies APPH, General Electric, Martin-Baker and Selex Galileo to underscore the maturity of its demonstrator programme, which is de-risking technologies for a next-generation Gripen that is planned to enter service from 2015.

The aircraft on show here since Monday returned from an evaluation campaign in India during May, where Gripen says "everything worked like clockwork".

http://i31.*******.com/mtxikidotjpg

Saab has already been in discussion with Selex over a capability insertion roadmap for the aircraft's Raven Active Electronically Scanned Array radar stretching out over some 20-30 years, says Bob Mason, the latter's vice-president of marketing and sales.

Gripen marketing director Hans Rosen says the company is optimistic about entering the final phase of India's 126-platform medium multi-role combat aircraft contest after the NG's long-range journey. "I am confident we will make it," he says. "We really maximised our chances."

[...]

A decision in Brazil, where the NG is again up against the Super Hornet and Typhoon is now "with the politicians", Rosen says. Meanwhile, the company is not neglecting other sales opportunities, he adds. "Today we have activities in 17 countries, and have also started some talks outside of those."

Flightglobal (http://www.flightglobal.com/articles/2010/07/23/345090/farnborough-gripen-hits-back-at-paper-aeroplane-slurs.html)

... ^^ pic? Photoshop + waiting for laundry...

madschristoffer
07-23-2010, 09:03 PM
FARN10

DATE:23/07/10
SOURCE:Flight Daily News
FARNBOROUGH: Gripen hits back at 'paper aeroplane' slurs
By Craig Hoyle

[...]

Saab assembled representatives from supplier companies APPH, General Electric, Martin-Baker and Selex Galileo to underscore the maturity of its demonstrator programme, which is de-risking technologies for a next-generation Gripen that is planned to enter service from 2015.

The aircraft on show here since Monday returned from an evaluation campaign in India during May, where Gripen says "everything worked like clockwork".

http://i31.*******.com/mtxikidotjpg

Saab has already been in discussion with Selex over a capability insertion roadmap for the aircraft's Raven Active Electronically Scanned Array radar stretching out over some 20-30 years, says Bob Mason, the latter's vice-president of marketing and sales.

Gripen marketing director Hans Rosen says the company is optimistic about entering the final phase of India's 126-platform medium multi-role combat aircraft contest after the NG's long-range journey. "I am confident we will make it," he says. "We really maximised our chances."

[...]

A decision in Brazil, where the NG is again up against the Super Hornet and Typhoon is now "with the politicians", Rosen says. Meanwhile, the company is not neglecting other sales opportunities, he adds. "Today we have activities in 17 countries, and have also started some talks outside of those."

Flightglobal (http://www.flightglobal.com/articles/2010/07/23/345090/farnborough-gripen-hits-back-at-paper-aeroplane-slurs.html)

... ^^ pic? Photoshop + waiting for laundry...

typhoon? as in rafale?

btw, what did ever happen to the nora radar? was it dropped do to the break between saab/thales?
btw, thanks for the great photos woot

signatory
07-23-2010, 10:27 PM
typhoon? as in rafale?

btw, what did ever happen to the nora radar? was it dropped do to the break between saab/thales?
btw, thanks for the great photos woot

Yup! They made an error, wishful thinking perhaps. In Brazil it's against the Super Hornet and the French jet.

Let's see.... NORA program is part of Saabs own fire control aesa radar programs like Vixen is one of Selex.. now they take development from both programs, and other programs, into a finished Gripen radar. NORA has a higher roadmap target as a theoretical end product with multifunctionality than this first Raven 1000... Sweden is also funding the M-AESA project for Gripen and it is absolutely clear that the Swedish customer wants a radar that essentially do what NORA would do. But with the cooperation apparently now going deeper the finished products for Gripen will likely continue to be Saab-Selex cooperative products so we have essentially two large radar houses building one radar which de-risks development but they also continue to compete between themselves to see who develops the best solutions.

Selex eye is more on the front-end, and in terms of Saab and the Gripen a much more replacable partner. It should not be totally unlikely that other Gripens based on export needs might be offered with a different front end supplier.

IconOfEvi
07-24-2010, 02:51 AM
I like the Gripen, really reminds me of the F-20 in a good way :)

signatory
07-26-2010, 07:53 AM
Thai Pilot training for Gripen

Training of pilots, technicians and ground support staff is a vital part of RTAF's preparations for Gripen and much of this education is taking place in Sweden.

http://www.gripen.com/NR/rdonlyres/947E3D5B-6214-4600-A548-02D568D22CBF/10924/Group_thai_swe_454x253dotjpg
RTAF pilots, technicians and aviation mechanics for Gripen training in Sweden

Full Artice (http://www.gripen.com/en/MediaRelations/News/2010/thai_pilot_training_for_gripen.htm)

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10,000 Fh CzAF Gripens + Tiger paintjob

First Gripen export user to reach 10,000 Flight hours and all done on a single squadron that has been quite busy. The highlight so far might be:


Gripen over the Baltic

The Baltic operation was carried out with only 75 crewmembers, operating 4 Gripen aircraft in Quick Reaction Alert (QRA) Readiness 24/7 over 4 months. During the campaign, the Czech Air Force had to perform 8 live interceptions or “Alpha Scrambles”. Seven of the scrambles were initiated by Russian military aircraft in international airspace but with questionable transponder operation or lack of air-traffic control communication. In all, the campaign was very successful with the four Gripen aircraft logging 404 hours in 336 sorties. This far exceeded the planned 290 flight hours, proving the high reliability and flexibility inherent in the Gripen fighter aircraft.

http://img148.imageshack.us/img148/8211/bab1dotjpg
NTM10 and 10K Fh paintjob. www.211squadron.cz

Eye see what you did there...

http://img59.imageshack.us/img59/3807/bab4dotjpg
NTM10 and 10K Fh paintjob. www.211squadron.cz

As users we are absolutely satisfied with this airplane. - Brigadier General Bohuslav Dvorak, Director of the Force Development Division General Staff. (http://www.acr.army.cz/informacni-servis/zpravodajstvi/svedska-armada-na-ceste-k-plne-profesionalizaci-41037/)

Do not miss Milan Nykodym's as always excellent photo's. 2 more besides the one above.

Tiger Eyes Photo #3 (http://www.211squadron.cz/aktuality/bab2dotjpg)

Tiger Eyes Photo #4 (http://www.211squadron.cz/aktuality/bab3dotjpg)

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Two more of my currently favourite loadout...

http://img442.imageshack.us/img442/6438/gripend04dotjpg

http://img245.imageshack.us/img245/319/gripend03dotjpg

Swingrole
08-09-2010, 07:40 AM
What do you guys think about this?


"A big red for the Gripen, F-16 and MiG-35 in the Indian fighter procurement"

Livefist
August 09, 2010


Spoke last evening to my friend and colleague on the beat Srinjoy Chowdhry about his report on Times NOW to get a better sense of what it was all about, and to clarify some of the stuff left tantalizingly unsaid. Srinjoy's sources tell him the air force has based its trial evaluation report (submitted on August 1) on the overarching and unstated directive that it needs select a "modern western combat aircraft".

Read those first two words carefully, because they mean different things to different people in the air force, government and aircraft-manufacturer campaign offices. Anyway, by this frame of reference, according to Srinjoy's sources, the MiG-35 is out because it isn't western or modern -- the IAF definitely doesn't want to squander this opportunity buying more Russian hardware. The F-16 is out because it isn't a modern platform with promising developing latitude ahead of it, they say.

Interestingly, the F/A-18 is a "borderline case" according to his sources, who indicated to him that the Gripen is out because it's too much like the Tejas, and buying the Gripen would be to preempt and make redundant the Tejas programme. Significantly, according to Srinjoy's report, the IAF has cleared all six fighters for the next level, but clearly indicated its preference in an order of merit. In other words, a green light for the Rafale and Eurofighter, a yellow light for the F/A-18, and big red for the Gripen, F-16 and MiG-35. Also, it is almost certain that the final order for aircraft will be closer to 200 airplanes.

Source: http://livefist.blogspot.com/

madschristoffer
08-09-2010, 11:43 AM
There is no surprise that gripen,f16 and mig is a no go for the IAF.
I could have told you the same one year ago, maybe even two or three.



Its good that India is not that simpleminded like the Norwegian MOD.

phlerp
08-09-2010, 11:50 AM
Though it wouldn't be too surprising if it's true, at the moment it's nothing but a rumor. Until IAF confirms this (doubtful that they will confirm nor deny) it has to be treated with skepticism. And anyway, we all know that it's not entirely up to the air force to decide. If it were, Brazil would be flying Gripen by now.

Breerman
08-09-2010, 12:02 PM
These articles, rumors are published all the time. In hindsight none of the previous ones have been true (Rafale out, Mig win, Gripen no show etc.).

With that said I think Gripen NG, even though it's arguably the most modern and best multirule competitor, has slim chances since in the end it comes down to politics. The American aircrafts are favorites in my book.

On a sidenote I'd say Bofors on the other hand has a good chance of securing a great artillery order in India.

Giorgi001
08-09-2010, 03:12 PM
Russians reject this message and say that their Mig has big chance, because India almost has big flat of russian aircrafts and they don`t have to build new training centers for pilots and repair places for aircrafts.
you can trsanslate by google http://vz.ru/top/

signatory
08-10-2010, 06:16 PM
:)

Rumours, truths or something in the middle.. either way, no jet manufacturer should count his sales until at least the first installment is paid on a signed contract.

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Photo: Gripen User Group

July 2010 signing of extended GUG documents @ Swedish embassy, UK.

http://img695.imageshack.us/img695/68/gugalldotjpg

Air Force representatives of South Africa, Thailand, Sweden, Hungary and the Czech Republic.


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Video: Kecskemét 2010

HuAF Gripen display with nice flares release.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jU_a81_tDzk
UL: airshowinfo


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USAFE in North Sweden

Sixteen American fighters out of Aviano AFB conducting training with local Gripens and practicing bomb release that they otherwise don't get to do too often.

http://img33.imageshack.us/img33/7866/norrd2dotjpg
Photo: IRIS-T equipped 39.275 and single engine USAFE jets

Haell
08-10-2010, 06:38 PM
Thx guys for an informative thread! Its nice to read about the machines we were tasked to protect one time at F21.

Aah, the roar of the afterburner with its blue tail in contrast to a pink midnight sun-lit sky, as the mighty JAS scrambles to intercept lost Russian aircrafts.. - I am feeling nostalgic :( It's a damned shame no pictures were taken.. Real kodak moments...

Anyways, thanks! Keep up the good work!

jochen
08-12-2010, 04:29 AM
I short video, gripen vs mig 29 in mock battle.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pVlZHbFwZoA

Credit to: coltanka (http://www.youtube.com/user/coltanka)

signatory
08-12-2010, 05:59 AM
Longer version here with some other goodies:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=walHLvmaIq0


Photos... with links to photostreams.

http://img716.imageshack.us/img716/8566/4882747405148614a711zdotjpg
kevinmartin1 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/kevinmartin1/)

http://img130.imageshack.us/img130/2953/48764885695e0f9a04d4zdotjpg
kevinmartin1

http://img689.imageshack.us/img689/3027/488147544646e77ece23zdotjpg
By AZso (http://www.flickr.com/photos/azso/with/4881475446/)

http://img838.imageshack.us/img838/4688/487941464158a2d28634zdotjpg
By KoenH (http://www.flickr.com/photos/46709787@N08/with/4879414641/)

They also showed the new helmet...

http://img690.imageshack.us/img690/3232/4880062644a1bc382a68bdotjpg
By SpawnHTKA (http://www.flickr.com/photos/34971214@N02/)

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Cheers Haell p-)

Eh btw, maybe not news but a funny thing I noticed on the EF for Switzerland campaign website... they hit out at the other competitors with a Rand study... it's written to look up to date but it's actually a 15 year old (they forgot to mention that part..) paper-study done even before the EF had entered production and written in cooperation with workshare seeking EF-partner BAe (made before they temporarily teamed with Saab on Gripen sales...) and that only includes semi-factual numbers on the long since out-of-production JAS 39A with some unknown data simply invented out of the blue. It's also unclear what they really compare.

Sure it then looks pretty aweful against a theoretical maximum performance operational EF of course and the argument is "you need only so few EF compared to so many Gripens"... But nah it's not even vs. an actual 39A machine or even the 39C that much like the EF at the time in question was in development. And of course not the far more different 39E which is now on offer to the Swiss airforce.

Not sure if they will be fooling anyone... even Lockheed managed to use a 39C when comparing the Gripen to the F-35 (not that the 39C was any more relevant either in that regard since the offer was the next gen version...) Maybe journalists is the prime target for things like this not so much the Air Forces...

Yeh yeh.

bofors_120
08-13-2010, 05:09 PM
There is no surprise that gripen,f16 and mig is a no go for the IAF.
I could have told you the same one year ago, maybe even two or three.



Its good that India is not that simpleminded like the Norwegian MOD.


Simpleminded? How so?

The fact that Saab is not having any success in exporting the Gripen validatets the points made by the Norwegian Mod(about the Gripen NG as a costly orphan)

Slenke
08-13-2010, 05:16 PM
Simpleminded? How so?

The fact that Saab is not having any success in exporting the Gripen validatets the points made by the Norwegian Mod(about the Gripen NG as a costly orphan)
Then I suppose you mean that the F-35 is dirt cheap then, a real bargain? :roll:

bofors_120
08-13-2010, 05:28 PM
Then I suppose you mean that the F-35 is dirt cheap then, a real bargain? :roll:

Dirt cheap? Flyaway price, no, but the costs of future upgrades could be split between thousands vs tens. Anyway, the Norwegians chose the F-35 because of the capabilities it offered, not because of the price.

Slenke
08-13-2010, 05:57 PM
Dirt cheap? Flyaway price, no, but the costs of future upgrades could be split between thousands vs tens. Anyway, the Norwegians chose the F-35 because of the capabilities it offered, not because of the price.
They did some ridiculous claims about the price however, and don't forget the political pressure from Uncle Sam.

signatory
08-13-2010, 06:09 PM
Simpleminded? How so?

The fact that Saab is not having any success in exporting the Gripen validatets the points made by the Norwegian Mod(about the Gripen NG as a costly orphan)

Hm. So far the Gripen has been actually exported to countries more times than the F-35, Rafale, Eurofighter, Super Hornet and MIG-35.. Combined.

Although apparently, only to very rich countries who can affford to operate such a "costly" aircraft system...

:roll:

Breerman
08-14-2010, 04:20 AM
Simpleminded? How so?

The fact that Saab is not having any success in exporting the Gripen validatets the points made by the Norwegian Mod(about the Gripen NG as a costly orphan)
What an *****. Gripen has been exported to 4 countries (compare that to Rafale, Eurofighter etc.) the last 10 years with practically no political pull, which is the main component in these deals anyway. It could even have been more but strict export restrictions here have stopped deals with some countries (that other western countries don't mind selling to). It's already the most exported Swedish fighter ever and it's in my estimate likely to get another 4 more export clients in the next 10 years.

The Gripen system is proven both technologically and economically, by SwAF and by foreign users. Already Viggen had significantly lower operating costs than F-16. Gripen in turn have significantly lower operating costs than Viggen. When compared to F-35 the differences become astronomical.

As for upgrades Gripen has a proven record. Compare that to the Finns who now are paying more than $20 million per plane (sic) for upgrading their halfassed American F-18C so they become less halfassed. A real bargain indeed.

As for the Norwegian government Eurofighter and Rafale didn't even bother putting in offers, saying they wouldn't waste their time on an already done deal. Which proved right when the government there in the end had to use lies and fantasies to make it go the way they had decided on. You can check the appropriate threads to get information regarding that deal. If you wish to discuss it, reply there and stop polluting this news thread.

Kongjun33
08-14-2010, 04:41 AM
Hm. So far the Gripen has been actually exported to countries more times than the F-35, Rafale, Eurofighter, Super Hornet and MIG-35.. Combined.

Although apparently, only to very rich countries who can affford to operate such a "costly" aircraft system...

:roll:
The problem in some of these countries is how they close the deals... ask the Judges.

Swingrole
08-14-2010, 05:02 AM
The problem in some of these countries is how they close the deals... ask the Judges.

By stating that I guess you mean that England, France and The United Bluff of America don't use bribes and other forms of leverages...?!? :cantbeli:

signatory
08-14-2010, 05:12 AM
The problem in some of these countries is how they close the deals... ask the Judges.

You sound bitter. Cool thought that such an unimportant little Swedish product from a tiny little country relative to the major powers with their financial and diplomatic positions still annoys you so much that you feel obligated to read an unofficial news-thread and comment with whatever random negative remarks you can think of. I wonder what other products you go around hating now.. did you by chance side with Pepsi in the cola-wars perhaps rofl ? Actually don't anwer that, don't wanna start a cola-war in here....


Alright... back to news!

signatory
08-14-2010, 05:12 AM
Quick look at the half year results Swedish defence 2010.

-------- SwAF ------

The Armed Forces have received the following major product deliveries in product group 03 Air Force units:

In the first half, a number of fighter aircraft deliveries in the system (JAS39C / D) been carried out mainly in sub-systems countermeasures / electronic warfare and weaponry.

10 Electronic Warfare (EW) - systems inc. countermeasure munitions, flares and *****s of self protection have been delivered to combat air system JAS39C / D. Furthermore, internationally adapted said input devices, Identification Friend or Foe Mark XII (IFF Mk XII), delivered.

New software, Materiel System Version 19 (MS 19), the JAS 39C / D has been utilized which resulted in the fighter divisions have access to new weapons / abilities, among other things, RB 98, GBU-49 and Link 16

It has been associated with introducing materials systems Version 19 delivered by the IR missile, RB 98 (IRIS-T) and mountings for all missile types for the JAS 39C / D. Fighter system has also been supplemented with 6 LITENING capsules (LDP, Laser Designation Pod) GIII and sharp practice bombs and bombs of the type GBU-12 and GBU-49.


src (http://www.forsvarsmakten.se/upload/dokumentfiler/Huvuddokument_delarsredovisning_2010.pdf)

Dompedidomp
08-14-2010, 04:21 PM
Gripen has been exported to 4 countries (compare that to Rafale, Eurofighter etc.) the last 10 years with practically no political pull, which is the main component in these deals anyway.

And very attractive offset agreements have nothing to do with it ?


Already Viggen had significantly lower operating costs than F-16

So if Norway was operating Viggen today, with similar upgrades/ capabilities as the F-16, it would still have lower operating costs ? I think not.

Magnus_Redin
08-14-2010, 06:16 PM
So if Norway was operating Viggen today, with similar upgrades/ capabilities as the F-16, it would still have lower operating costs ? I think not.

If the Norwegians in a slightly different alternative universe had bought JA37 Viggen they would have had heaps of spare parts from the Swedish drawdown after the end of the cold war and its early replacement with Gripen. But it is even more likely that they would have upgraded to Gripen.

BjornD
08-14-2010, 08:09 PM
Dirt cheap? Flyaway price, no, but the costs of future upgrades could be split between thousands vs tens. Anyway, the Norwegians chose the F-35 because of the capabilities it offered, not because of the price.
Why the norwegians chose the F-35? I guess only the government knows the real answer. For the record it is related to close links with the US, the US embassy, and the CIA. I think it is unfair to link this to the norwegians as in the norwegian people. Actually the norwegian people preferred the swedish Gripen. Concerning the fable price of 18.06 billion usd , it actually resembles the total price of the aircraft x 48 (urf) without the propulsion and weaponsystems which is around 57 million usd pr piece according to Lockheed Martin. A JSF general (re Paris Airshow 2009) commented by saying that the lowest possible price for F-35 he could imagine during continuous future production is 80 million usd a piece. Since then the price has gallopped and is now around 110 million usd a piece for the same absolute low possibility. I would think the Gripen NG could be purchased under a fixed cost around 50 to 55 million usd a piece. The Norwegian Government is absolutely not reliable and is not accountable to the norwegian people in this matter. Further the government and MOD compared the price (48 pcs) for total package for Gripen NG (2 yrs full equipment/training/maintenance(+equipment) 24 billion Nkr - with the Lockheed Martin aircraft only price (without engine / system external suppliers) 18 billion Nkr.

By the way SAAB has updated their website. See especially the beautiful picture from South Africa.
http://www.saabgroup.com/en/Air/Gripen-Fighter-System/
http://www.saabgroup.com/en/About-Saab/Newsroom/Image-bank/

Dompedidomp
08-14-2010, 08:35 PM
Actually the norwegian people preferred the swedish Gripen.

At least according to a small opinion poll made for NRK.

Almost 25000 people voted in an opinion poll on vg.no. 72,2 % supported the F-35.

But lets discuss this here
http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/showthread.php?146444-Norway-selects-F-35-to-replace-F-16

BjornD
08-14-2010, 09:45 PM
At least according to a small opinion poll made for NRK.

Almost 25000 people voted in an opinion poll on vg.no. 72,2 % supported the F-35.

But lets discuss this here
http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/showthread.php?146444-Norway-selects-F-35-to-replace-F-16

You denies fact, propagate blatant lies, and demand that the discussion be held another place. That must be a new peak of F-35 fanpost tactics.
However, during the period NRK made their serious research with the result that the norwegian people favoured Gripen, VG nett came to the same result in its poll.
http://www.vg.no/nyheter/innenriks/artikkel.php?artid=524047
It should also be noted that VG nett is easily manipulated by the reader, and open to any coup by fanatics. So please refrain from such nonsense. My remark is based on the general knowledge of serious research during the time leading up to the government's decision.
http://e24.no/naeringsliv/article2769246.ece

jochen
08-16-2010, 10:51 AM
A short presentation of the Raven ES 05 AESA radar.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=shikRvsqTgU (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=shikRvsqTgU)

jontew
08-16-2010, 12:30 PM
Thanks jochen! Really interesting to hear Bob speak.

wheeleuss
08-16-2010, 01:34 PM
133939
I do not really know if this pic has been posted before. Anyway....
On the top of the ES-05 you can seen the Selex Skyward IRST derived from the Pirate of the Eurofighter

Taz-Mania
08-16-2010, 01:34 PM
I've got a question for you: does the Saab Gripen NG well against competitors like the EF, F-22, RAFALE..?

Breerman
08-16-2010, 03:10 PM
And very attractive offset agreements have nothing to do with it ?
As far as I recollect the F-35 deals have had fairly non-existent offsets in relation to order value.


So if Norway was operating Viggen today, with similar upgrades/ capabilities as the F-16, it would still have lower operating costs ? I think not.
Operating costs are obviously not related to upgrades (unless some new upgrade requires an excessive amount of maintenance hours).

It's also notable that Viggen had 2000-3000 fh when they were retired. The upgraded Norwegian F-16 should be clocking around 4000 fh now. The difference to Viggen would therefor be even greater today, not to mention what the upcoming 10+ years before the first deliveries of the replacement aircrafts will be like in terms of cost increases.

Slenke
08-16-2010, 03:30 PM
A short presentation of the Raven ES 05 AESA radar.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=shikRvsqTgU (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=shikRvsqTgU)
The last thing he says pretty much contradicts what this "Pepe" journalist has said about the radar, that the Idians thought it had "insufficient performance". I think anyone that has seen the radar picture the guy in the video talked about, would agree with me when I say it's impressive to say the least.

JohanGrön
08-16-2010, 04:23 PM
The Indian magazine India Today (http://indiatoday.intoday.in/site/) featured a 30 page supplement in it's latest edition.
http://a.imageshack.us/img821/530/futureismadeinindiadotjpg
Download the full pdf here The future is made in India (http://pdfcast.org/download/future-is-made-in-india.pdf).


Cheers
//JG

Dompedidomp
08-16-2010, 05:55 PM
Operating costs are obviously not related to upgrades (unless some new upgrade requires an excessive amount of maintenance hours).

It's also notable that Viggen had 2000-3000 fh when they were retired. The upgraded Norwegian F-16 should be clocking around 4000 fh now. The difference to Viggen would therefor be even greater today, not to mention what the upcoming 10+ years before the first deliveries of the replacement aircrafts will be like in terms of cost increases.

I am not sure if i understand your point ? The more often you get a new fighter, the lower is the operating cost ? My point is that I think the total cost for Norway would be a lot more if they had chosen Viggen. USA is paying for most of the new developmets on F-16. Norway is sending pilots to the US for education and training, and are co-operating with many international F-16 users in intops, and so on. I think it is obvious that it would be more expensive to be the sole operater of the Viggen today, and keep it modern.

Some of the upgrades on the F-16 (in Norwegian)
http://www.mil.no/luft/start/omlf/flymaskiner/f16/#v1

signatory
08-17-2010, 06:09 AM
This is only relevant because it outlines a difference between closed and open systems.


My point is that I think the total cost for Norway would be a lot more if they had chosen Viggen. USA is paying for most of the new developmets on F-16.


Hm. Currently most new developments for the F-16 is funded by international users such as Israel and the UAE plus inhouse risk-money programs among suppliers. I believe there's some symbolic cost sharing between the few EPAF F-16 nations too but nothing in the order of the MLU program. There's also major spin-off products from other US and non-US programs that creates equipment suitable for installation F-16 or other aircraft. Many if not most of these from corporations that doesn't even build jets.

Romania for instance picked a whole set of latest off-the-shelf products from several suppliers such as GEC-Marconi, Elbit, Elop, Elta, including the radar to upgrade their MIG-21 Lancers to an avionics standard in several regards above that of MLU F-16's. The Viggen in Swedish service received its own comparable MLU in the D and Di mods heavily sourced on the Gripen program. (AMRAAM, ECM, large multicolor display, interop link etc).

There's quite good competition among sub-contractors looking for upgrade jobs and their product offerings is often suitable for more than one type of jet which is why flying a open system is a real nice bonus. The competition is so that the R&D houses do fund their own development in hopes of scoring a production contract. Often the R&D is a spin-off from another program that was government financed but sometimes it's all new based on the company wanting to keep a competitive position for the future.

There's a nice selection of AESA programs out there for light fighters yet the USAF doesn't even fly a AESA on F-16. Only one of them funded by a customer. So it's not a given fact that a sole operator has to fund all future developments. In a hypothetical Norwegian case I am sure the state and industry would have collaborated in either design and or system integration. Aerostar of Romania did good as main contractor when taking their MIGs to the modern age.

So if a customer is allowed to open up and install products from suppliers of his choice then you can complete upgrades at reasonable costs using more or less off-the-shelf products. The IRIS-T work on Norwegian F-16 is not paid for by the US. There's of course no absolute truth to what is always less expensive... to always buy what the major operator and partner nations has pre-selected based on lobbyism or to look for another option from a free market standpoint (such as if Norway would have decided on another HMD/HMCS) but instead perhaps pay for the verification flights if you're the first user. Sometimes however, the extra cost is worth it. To simply mimic another airforce is not always the best tactics for national defense at least I don't think so .


Norway is sending pilots to the US for education and training, and are co-operating with many international F-16 users in intops, and so on.

The international aspect is perhaps a less important one since it happens so little and the NATO countries use all kinds of aircraft most of them never saw service in the USAF and yet they still work it out. But there are bonuses on the logistics chain if those opportunities arises. It's of course also nice to go to the US for training, but that has more to do with building relations and national policy IMO. The bulk of all squadron training is still done in Norway.


I think it is obvious that it would be more expensive to be the sole operater of the Viggen today, and keep it modern.

Probably not that much different on such a small fleet if you just consider national ops. They would still both be aircraft relying on spill-overs from other programs and on the availability of spares. But yes F-16 was a good choice for Norway's needs and that's what is reality now not a bunch of hypotheticals.

Loke2
08-17-2010, 09:35 AM
An article from July 2010 -- not much new here but still a nice summary I think.


Sweden is advancing its own Gripen development path alongside that of the Gripen Next Generation aircraft intended for export, which is currently awaiting the outcome of major competitions in Brazil and India. The Swedish air force is now talking openly about a JAS 39E/F version that would draw on many of the technologies being applied to the NG program.

In the shorter term, in March Saab received a contract worth around $256 million from the Swedish defense material administration (FMV) for an upgrade package that will improve countermeasures and communications, integrate new weapons such as the Meteor (the acquisition of which was recently approved by the Swedish government) and provide extra range and functions to the Gripen’s PS-05/A radar. It also includes measures to reduce operational costs, based on experience from the 130,000 flying hours achieved with the Gripen fleet.

This contract helps define the Gripen’s Material System 20 as part of the rolling capability sustainment program that is in force for the type. Shortly after this deal was done, Saab received another commission to expand the capabilities of the aircraft’s SPK 39 reconnaissance system. This enhances night capability and user interface, and will also allow the Gripen to feed imagery into the sensor source intelligence cells being produced to support the country’s new Shadow 200 unmanned air vehicles.

MS21 Version
Saab already has the next major iteration in its sights. The MS21 version is to include a major review of the aircraft’s avionics system, including computers and displays, with the accent placed on handling vastly increased amounts of information at differing security classification levels. The architecture will also to be able to handle new types of sensors.

It is evident that the MS21 will become the JAS 39E/F, and that it will be based closely on the AESA-equipped Gripen NG. Although the exact nature of an “MS21 Gripen” has yet to be defined, it will almost certainly incorporate the more powerful General Electric F414G engine. An avionics development contract was awarded to Saab in May and is expected to lead to a concept evaluation review later this year. Preliminary design reviews will be undertaken next year, leading to full development starting in 2012.

Sweden expects to have the JAS 39E/F in service by around 2017, although it has committed to bring that date forward if Brazil adopts the Gripen so that the customer does not shoulder the burden of fielding a major new version on its own.

Development of what is now known as the Gripen NG began around 2004, a year before the JAS 39C/D achieved IOC. Predictions of airpower requirements for the 2015-2020 time frame suggested the need for new sensors, greater range and larger warloads. After analysis of other options, it was concluded that a developed Gripen NG could meet the requirements, with technology to be demonstrated in a “Demo” aircraft that would also become a de facto prototype for the NG. Initial estimates put the cost at approximately $230 million but that was considered too high, leading to the formation of an industrial partnership that cut the costs by 60 percent. In fact, the Gripen Demo came in some 15 percent below that budget.

The Gripen Demo technology demonstration program has been conducted in two phases and involves a flying demonstrator and an avionics rig. Phase 1 flight tests got under way with a first flight on May 27, 2008, during which the extensively modified two-seater validated the aerodynamic changes caused by moving the main undercarriage to under the wingroots, the addition of underfuselage pylons, new drop tanks and the installation of the uprated General Electric F414G engine. Phase 1 was completed after 79 flights.

Phase 2 introduced further modifications to the aircraft, including extra fuel capacity and, most importantly, installation of a development version of the Selex/Saab ES-05 Raven AESA radar. This phase was brought to a conclusion this February after a further 73 flights. During the initial Demo campaign, all goals were achieved, including a Mach 1.6-plus speed and a supercruise (non-afterburning) capability of greater than Mach 1.2.

Following the end of official Phase 2 trials, the Gripen Demo aircraft continued development work, but in May was dispatched to India in support of Saab’s entry in the country’s MMRCA multi-role fighter competition. MMRCA envisions the acquisition of 126 aircraft, with the first 18 to be built by the original manufacturer, followed by a stepped transition to Indian production. Saab is pitching its Gripen NG against the Boeing F/A-18E/F, Dassault Rafale, Eurofighter Typhoon, Lockheed Martin F-16IN and the Mikoyan MiG-35.

Although Saab had already demonstrated the JAS 39C/D in India in March (20 evaluation flights), and Indian pilots had flown the Gripen Demo in Sweden during April, the demonstrator deployed to India for an in-country evaluation. Earlier it had been announced that ongoing test work would mean the Gripen Demo was unavailable to make the trip. This was widely seen as being detrimental to the Gripen bid’s cause and resulted in a reversal of the decision. Routing via Kecskemet in Hungary, Athens, Hurghada in Egypt, Riyadh and the United Arab Emirates, the Demo aircraft and its Raven AESA radar arrived in India in late May.

High-altitude Ops
During its stay, the Gripen Demo flew eight evaluation sorties, including in-flight refueling from an Ilyushin Il-78 tanker and operations from Leh. Located in disputed Jammu and Kashmir, close to the scene of the 1999 Kargil war, Leh is of strategic value to India but, at 10,826 feet elevation, is one of the world’s highest airfields. The Gripen Demo operated with ease from the base, and performed well in other trials. According to Eddy de la Motte, Saab’s India campaign director, “We are confident that this aircraft meets, or exceeds, every operational requirement raised by the Indian Air Force.”

The return to Sweden of the Demo aircraft brought to an end the MMRCA flying evaluation phase. Meanwhile, the final bid deadline has been extended a year, allowing some of the competitors to refine their proposals. It is expected that the technical evaluation will initially produce a down-select to three competitors, after which the politics are likely to become an increasing factor.

Politics have certainly played their part in the Brazilian FX2 new fighter competition, in which the Gripen is pitched against the Rafale and Super Hornet. In September last year President Lula announced the selection of the Rafale, but at the time of writing there is no sign of a contract.

An interesting aside to the Brazilian and Indian deals is the proposal by Saab of a Sea Gripen, as both countries have aircraft carriers. Developed initially to meet Sweden’s stringent dispersed short-field operations doctrine, the Gripen already possesses many of the characteristics required in a carrier-borne aircraft. Modifications for sea-going operations are said to be relatively straightforward, but Saab has signaled that it would pursue this avenue further only if Brazil or India signed up for the Gripen NG.

http://www.ainonline.com/news/single-news-page/article/gripen-ng-matures-and-waits-for-india-25411/

Note the highlighted text -- some people seem to believe that NG development started in 2008; actually it started in 2004, six years ago.

Also interesting to note that the development work has been done in a very cost-effective manner.

Slenke
08-17-2010, 11:01 AM
Will the E/F version be equipped with the AESA radar and Skyward-G IRST?

signatory
08-17-2010, 11:45 AM
Will the E/F version be equipped with the AESA radar and Skyward-G IRST?

Probably. But whatever a E/F will be, depends on customers, a AESA is at least a thing they will see for sure.

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16 August 2010:
Terma to Upgrade Saab’s Reconnaissance Pod System for Gripen
Integrated Defense Systems

Aarhus, Denmark, August 2010 — Defense and Security company Saab has awarded Terma a 55 MDKK contract for the development and production of an upgrade of the Reconnaissance Pod System for the Swedish Air Force Gripen fighter aircraft.

Terma will deliver software and components for the upgrade to secure full day and night operability and thus support an enhanced flexibility and capability of the tactical surveillance system. The program comprises design, production, and installation of new software functionality for the management of the sensors, structural modification of the pod lay out, upgraded functionality of the Power Distribution Unit (PDU) plus wiring harnesses.

The first upgraded pods will be delivered in late 2011 followed by a test phase and additional delivery of the remaining pods.

The update program continues the close and long-standing cooperation between Terma and Saab. In 2001, Terma was contracted by Saab to supply the round-structured pod, the Environmental Control System (ECS), the electrical systems, and the Reconnaissance Management System for the Reconnaissance Pod System for the Swedish Air Force Gripen Aircraft.

The Modular Reconnaissance Pod System (MRPS) from Saab provides customers with a maximum of flexibility in tailoring the sensor suite to operational requirements for airborne tactical reconnaissance. It has provisions for both day and night capability, is designed for optimum performance, and can be carried on various aircraft platforms. The Gripen MRPS made its first flight in 2005.

http://www.terma.com/multimedia/Saab_Recce_Pod_on_Gripen_420px_jpgdotjpg
multi-role fighter aircraft with Modular Reconnaissance Pod system (photo: Copyright of Saab)

Gripen is a new generation fighter aircraft which employs the latest technology and the latest weapons, which delivers the capability for an extensive variety of air-to-air and air-to-surface operational missions, including reconnaissance missions. Gripen is in service with the Swedish, Czech, Hungarian, and South African air forces and is also ordered by Thailand for deliveries next year. The UK Test Pilots’ School (ETPS) is operating Gripen as its advanced fast jet platform for test pilots worldwide.

Saab serves the global market with world-leading products, services, and solutions ranging from military defense to civil security.

http://www.terma.com/

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Fighting Falcons return from exercise in Sweden

http://www.aviano.af.mil/shared/media/photodb/web/100804-F-8957M-069dotjpg

8/16/2010 - KALLAX AIR BASE, Sweden (AFNS) -- Members of the 555th Fighter Squadron and 31st Aircraft Maintenance Squadron spent two weeks conducting air-to-air and air-to-ground exercises with members of the Swedish air force at Norrbotten Wing here.

Over the course of two weeks, members of the U.S. Air Force worked side-by-side with their Swedish allies, both in the air and on the ground, conducting more than 180 flying missions that tested their air combat capabilities as well as their precision weapons scoring. This training was conducted at the Vidsel Test Range, located about 50 miles from the base.

"Joint exercises like this are great because they give us a chance to go to another country and see how other air forces operate, giving us the chance to learn as well as share the way we do business," said Maj. Travis Swan, the 555th FS assistant director of operations and project officer for the exercise. "This particular exercise was also important in that it afforded us the opportunity to use a scored range, one of the best training areas I've ever seen, to conduct practice munitions drops and low-level flying."

Swedish air force Övlt (Lt. Col. equivalent) Harri Larsson, the Norrbotten Wing deputy commander, said Swedish air force members were proud to host their U.S. Air Force allies over the two-week period and hone their combat skills together.

"Everything has gone really well," he said. "We really appreciate working with the U.S. Air Force because it gives us dimension ... training with someone else, other equipment, other tactics, working in the English language, which is not our native language ... I believe it gives us a lot of good experience which we can use in the future."

The commander added that the exercise is especially important for both the Swedish Gripen and U.S. F-16 Fighting Falcon pilots.

"They can improve their training, and we become more interoperable," he said. "Our government wants us to become more flexible and be able to, on a short notice, go abroad. (Therefore), we need to work with other countries, especially the U.S. (as) the U.S., is the biggest contributor to NATO and the UN. From our point of view it's necessary to work with (the) U.S."

af.mil (http://www.af.mil/news/story.asp?id=123217891)

The Aviano's seem excited about loading up bombs and rockets on their F-16s.

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Staff Sgt. Jared Moffitt, 31st AMXS weapons load crew member, has been maintaining weapons systems on the F-16 since enlisting into the Air Force four and a half years ago. After just a year at Aviano Air Base, he was finally able to see those munitions in action on Aug. 6.

"It was an extreme rush," he said. "First we went on a bombing run where we dropped two GBU 38s (joint direct attack munition practice bombs), and then we went on a strafing run and shot off some (practice) ammo. It was pretty exciting seeing the munitions we put on the jets in action. The entire experience was great. It was unreal."

Source (http://www.aviano.af.mil/news/story.asp?id=123217268)

Slenke
08-17-2010, 11:58 AM
With the MRPS pod in the middle, can the Gripen use additional fuel tanks under the wings? Or will it run on internal fuel only?

BjornD
08-17-2010, 03:32 PM
133939
I do not really know if this pic has been posted before. Anyway....
On the top of the ES-05 you can seen the Selex Skyward IRST derived from the Pirate of the Eurofighter
Interesting picture. The IRST is probably a new option for Gripen. Gripen IRST Development has been signed to Selex.
Does the placement address the shortcomings of the earlier placement of the Gripen IRST blocking pilot view ? (especially unwanted during low visibility operations)?

signatory
08-18-2010, 10:05 AM
@ Slenke, yes two fuel tanks, one under each wing + aerial refueling.

@wheeleuss, thanks for the photo. Skyward-G is based on a new Selex data processing unit Skyward that is hooked up to a IR camera of choice, it's a later in-house design than that sourced for the current version Pirate. The EuroFirst consortium supplies the Pirate to EF with Selex as main contractor but the IR camera and other parts come from elsewhere such as Thales optronics. Not heard yet what opticals the Skyward-G will get.

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Saab Unveils Thai Air Defence Solutions

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At a ceremony at Saab’s factory in Linköping today, Saab unveiled the Thai integrated air defence system for its Thai customer. The ceremony was held to celebrate the contract between Sweden and Thailand.

http://www.gripen.com/NR/rdonlyres/0E218E11-1F06-4D87-B4BC-4A786E05B7A3/10937/10690dotjpg
Image: Gripen and Saab 340 Erieye AEW for tyhe Royal Thai Air Force during todays ceremony at Saab in Liköping, Sweden. Photo: Saab/Per Kustvik

2010-08-18 | Many prominent guests attended the event including Commander in Chief, ACM Ittha**** Subhawong from the Royal Thai Air Force, Gunnar Holmgen, General Director for the Swedish Defence Materiel Administration (FMV) and Åke Svensson CEO for Saab.

The Royal Thai Air Force has procured an integrated air defence system with Gripen C/D, the ERIEYE airborne early warning system and a Command and Control C2 system including data link communication. In combination with bilateral Co-operation mainly focused on technology transfer, this will provide Thailand with the foundation for an advanced network based defence system.

http://img64.imageshack.us/img64/7413/jasthailand370dotjpg

The Royal Thai Air Force will receive six of the latest version Gripen C/D multirole fighter aircraft at the beginning of 2011. One ERIEYE Airborne Early Warning radar system aboard a Saab 340 aircraft and one additional Saab 340 aircraft will be delivered in December 2010. One Command and Control C2 system including equipment for three ground based Radio sites will be delivered in March 2011.

The first Thai Gripen aircraft made its maiden flight on 16 September 2009 and Thai pilots, technicians and aviation mechanics responsible for maintenance and support of the aircraft have started their training at the Armed Force Technical School (Air Force) in Halmstad and at F 7 Såtenäs.

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Saab group CEO Åke Svensson and the Swedish minister of Defence Sten Tolgfors at the event

DefMin Sten Tolgfors also held bilateral talks with the Supreme commander of the Thai armed forces and the RTAF Air Chief during the day.

Gripen (http://www.gripen.com/en/MediaRelations/News/2010/Saab_Unveils_Thai_Air_Defence_Solutions.htm)

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Thailand Flying Forward With Swedish Fighting Planes
18.08.2010 | news Newsdesk

Royal Thai Air Force Commander in Chief Ithi**** Supawong is leading a Thai Government delegation to Sweden to participate in the second meeting of the Thai-Swedish Joint Steering Committee for the Gripen aircraft purchasing project.
The meeting being held in Stockholm from 16-22 August, will discuss preparations for the delivery of six Gripen multirole fighter aircraft of the latest version and a surveillance system to the Royal Thai Airforce (RTAF) at the beginning of next year.
Discussions will be made in three levels namely governmental, air force and operational. Air Chief Marshal Ithi**** Supawong heads the Thai governmental team while Chief of Air Staff Prajin Jantong leads the RTAF team and Director of Logistics Air Vice Marshal Adisak Chermwattana leads the operational team.
This is the second governmental level meeting of the joint steering committee after the first one was held in Bangkok. Leading the Swedish government representatives in the current discussion is Director General of the Defence Materiel Administration Gunnar Holmgren while Air Commodore Arne Heden represents the Swedish air force.
The discussions at the three levels will be observed by parliamentary representatives and members of related Thai government units. The Gripen fighters will replace the aging F5 B/E fighters of the RTAF which have been commissioned since the 1970s.

scandasia (http://www.scandasia.com/viewNews.php?coun_code=se&news_id=7071)

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Supreme Commander Songkitti Jaggabatara, Minister for Defence, Sten Tolgfors, Air Chief Marshal Ittha**** Subhawong

Unveiling of the first Gripen aircraft to the Thai Air Force - Speech by Minister for Defence, Sten Tolgfors

Check against delivery/ Det talade ordet gäller

Your Excellencies, generals, distinguished guests, ladies and gentlemen

The Kingdom of Thailand is an important partner for Sweden, in the area of defence as well as in other areas. Our bilateral cooperation in the defence area started more than 50 years ago when Sweden admitted Thai Navy Cadets for training.

Recently this cooperation gained momentum with the Gripen programme and the Memorandum of Understanding in the Defence Area and also with the Joint Plan of Action, that cover a broader scope of cooperation.

Since the first trade treaty between our two countries was signed more than 140 years ago, our bilateral relations have evolved tremendously.

Swedish bonds with the Kingdom of Thailand have gradually been strengthened over the years, not least because of the great number of Swedes visiting the Kingdom of Thailand for business and vacation. Our gratitude for the help the Kingdom of Thailand offered our citizens when needed will never go away.

Today our two countries take another step into further enhancing our cooperation when the first Gripen, as part of a comprehensive air defence solution, formally will be unveiled to be handed over to the Royal Thai Air Force.

The Swedish government and I would like to emphasize the importance of cooperation in developing and operating complex military systems. Having partners in continuous development is the best way for nations to remain competitive when it comes to military capabilities.

I would like to congratulate the Kingdom of Thailand and The Royal Thai Air Force to the excellent fighter which today is being added to your inventory.

Gripen is a world class multi-role fighter: Successful in technical and operational evaluations. Cost effective in several aspects in acquisition, operations and continuous development. It has high reliability and quick turn around-time. And last but not least, Gripen has a low rate of accidents and incidents.

I want to take this opportunity to welcome the Kingdom of Thailand to the Gripen family, with its members Sweden, Hungary, the Czech Republic and the Republic of South Africa.

Gripen is presently a strong contender for the airforces in countries such as Brazil, India and Switzerland. We hope our family of Gripen users is soon to grow.

I look forward to the continuation of the Thai Gripen programme and I wish you all success for the coming years with your Gripen fighters.

Thank you!

link (http://www.regeringen.se/sb/d/12553/a/150614)

Skyman
08-18-2010, 07:05 PM
It's a great event actually! The IRIS-T, Meteor, and RBS-15F are equipped the Thai Gripen!!!

http://a.imageshack.us/img299/5384/tafgripen4dotjpg

http://a.imageshack.us/img687/2264/tafgripen15dotjpg

http://a.imageshack.us/img443/6383/tafgripen9dotjpg

http://a.imageshack.us/img412/2665/tafgripen19dotjpg

http://a.imageshack.us/img683/1479/tafgripen13dotjpg

signatory
08-19-2010, 09:58 AM
Thanks Skyman.. I looked at TAF and saw the other photos too :)

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That radar again...

http://i37.*******.com/4ptw5gdotjpg

Already posted the SAR images from the Raven prototype briefing but with so many cars and buildings cluttering the images I decided to lift out some examples to get an idea of what it picks up.

http://i38.*******.com/2w36onodotjpg

http://i38.*******.com/6patjodotjpg

Again, not visible is the benefits of a swash-plate design for SAR mapping. Fixed AESAs has quality deterioration in wider off boresight scans and eventually no means of producing images at all compared to swash-plate AESAs. Flying the wide-angle radar in a twin-seater opens up yet more benefits as you will be able to insert a deployable battle-management commander with a higher degree of situational awareness into theatre.

Possibly interesting to look at other non-operational AESAs in development, the Northrop Grumman website has images from their two new AESAs in development. Northrop Grumman delivers the AN/APG-77 F-22 Radar, their own new product Scalable Agile Beam Radar (SABR) for potentional F-16 sales and the AN/APG-81 - F-35 AESA Radar.

SAR images from northropgrumman.com (http://www.es.northropgrumman.com/media/photo/india.html) on the link.

signatory
08-19-2010, 02:17 PM
While on topic...let's not forget the current Gripens.

Focus on A2G modes:

http://img693.imageshack.us/img693/6277/radar2hdotjpg

http://img809.imageshack.us/img809/6707/istardotjpg

http://img80.imageshack.us/img80/4163/radar1dotjpg

Summary: Air-to-Ground modes
• Ground Moving Target Indication (GMTI) for land and sea searches
• Ground Moving Target Tracking (GMTT)
• Air-to-Ground Ranging (AGR) for bomb guidance
• Doppler Beam Sharpening (DBS) – Synthetic Aperture Radar (SAR) mapping modes
• Real Beam Ground Map (RBM) and prime detection
• Spotlight (SP) mode

Currently Gripens fly with Version 19.x, new A2G features outlined here in a old GI magazine:

Version 19 introduces new capabilities for Sweden’s
Gripens, some of which are already in use with Gripen’s
export customers. In that respect the Version 19 upgrade
is an important step towards a common standard for the
entire Gripen ‘family’.

Version 19 will add a GPS-guided weapons capability
plus important upgrades to the PS-05/A radar.
New higher-resolution radar modes will see it’s first
introduction in Version 19 and will, when fully developed,
allow a Gripen to accurately target GPSguided
weapons using data from its own radar.

This makes the aircraft an extremely flexible all-weather
attack platform. The radar improvements, which also
include a ground moving target indicator] function,
are the first stage in the planned SARA (SAR Anpassning,
or synthetic aperture radar adaption) upgrade
that will transform the PS-05/A over the coming
years.

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That's what's in the system today.

And yup indeed SAR improvements continues on PS-05/A based on the SARA program which during 2009 saw its final report being issued. High resolution mapping already suitable for all-weather targeting will become very-high resolution in the following system versions.

Sources and further reading: FMV ISTAR roadmap (https://www.fmv.se/upload/5194/016%20-%20Gripen%20Aircraft%20System%20ISTAR%20Roadmap%20-%20Open%20version.pdf), SAAB PS-05/A 1 (http://www.saabgroup.com/Global/Documents%20and%20Images/Air/Sensor%20Systems/PS%2005_A/saab_PS-05%20A%204pg%20Screen%20PDF.pdf), SAAB PS-05/A 2 (http://www.saabgroup.com/Global/Documents%20and%20Images/Air/Sensor%20Systems/PS%2005_A/PS05_100422.pdf), SAABgroup.com (http://www.saabgroup.com/en/Air/Sensor_Systems/Fighter_Radar/PS_05_A/Technical_specifications/), SAAB@Farn (http://www.saabgroup.com/Global/Documents%20and%20Images/About%20Saab/Marketing/Gripen_Briefing_%20Farnborough_%202010.pdf), Gripen News (http://www.gripen.com/NR/rdonlyres/247CA2A2-C551-4633-AF49-5E9127DCAD76/0/gripen_news_2006_3.pdf)

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signatory
08-19-2010, 05:56 PM
Fast forward towards the end for the jet action. 4 RTAF gripens and Saab solo display.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vusf0rqGZC0

signatory
08-22-2010, 11:39 AM
A moment of silence was observed today at the second day of the Stockholm Air Festival in honor of Swedish airplane legend and important top historic aircraft display pilot Bertil Gerhardt who tragically lost his life this Saturday at the age of 68.

Bertil had performed a Supermarine Spitfire routine at the Stockholm 100-year of aviation air festival and was scheduled for an event in Norway that following day. However something happened during landing in Norway and the plane crashed hard.

Bertil Gerhardt flew several types of airplanes at European airshows in support of the historic aviation scene. His skill level and deep enthusiasm on anything flying was truly impressive.

Reason for posting here is included below.

src (http://www.dn.se/nyheter/sverige/kand-svensk-uppvisningsflygare-dod-i-norge-1.1157425)



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Air Force Major (Rtd.) Inge Bertil Pontus Gerhardt

Active flying: Age 17 to 68

SwAF service: 39 years

SwAF frontline: SAAB J29 Tunnan, SAAB J35 Draken

Flown over 70 different aircrafts including the SAAB 39B Gripen supporting test pilot's training

31,400 Flight Hours

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jontew
08-22-2010, 02:04 PM
Oh man, thats a bummer! Watched him perform many times, a great pilot! R.I.P

signatory
08-27-2010, 11:46 AM
http://i36.*******.com/190dj4dotjpg

Thai budget makes provision for second Gripen batch

27 August 2010

Thailand's House of Representatives approved a Fiscal Year 2011 (FY11) defence budget of THB170 billion (USD5.4 billion) on 26 August, an expenditure that includes funds allocated to a second batch of six Saab JAS 39 Gripen fighter aircraft for the Royal Thai Air Force (RTAF).

The allocation is a 10 per cent increase over actual defence spending in FY09 and accounts for 8 per cent of the total national expenditure. It is equal to approximately 1.7 per cent of GDP.

Between 25 and 30 cent of the defence budget is earmarked for capital expenditure, which includes a down payment on six JAS 39 Gripens and funding for the mid-life upgrade of the RTAF's Lockheed Martin F-16A/Bs.

janes (http://www.janes.com/news/defence/jdi/jdi100827_1_n.shtml)

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http://www.regeringen.se/img/logo_regeringskanslietdotgif

August 26, 2010
Ministry of Defence file list

Production from the Defence Materiel Administration for permission to conduct tests of electronic warfare system of the JAS 39 Gripen in Germany
Fö2010/1148/MFU

src (http://www.regeringen.se/sb/d/1877/a/23552)

energo
09-01-2010, 05:50 PM
Air Force Major (Rtd.) Inge Bertil Pontus Gerhardt


Active flying: Age 17 to 68


SwAF service: 39 years


SwAF frontline: SAAB J29 Tunnan, SAAB J35 Draken


Flown over 70 different aircrafts including the SAAB 39B Gripen supporting test pilot's training


31,400 Flight Hours


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Tail winds, Sir. I was hoping to catch the display at last weeks air show in Gothenburg, but sadly it didn't come to pass.

B. Bolsøy
Oslo

Loke2
09-08-2010, 04:09 AM
From South Africa:


The acquisition of the Saab Gripen fighter by the South African Air Force (SAAF) has further strengthened the country's expertise in the sphere of airborne radars, Council for Scientific and Industrial Research (CSIR) chief radar and electronic warfare systems engineer Francois Anderson said on Wednesday.

The Gripen is equipped with the Saab EDS (previously Ericsson) PS-05A radar. "We have more information on the PS-05A than on any other foreign radar ever acquired by South Africa," he stated.

The CSIR has decades of experience with radar in general and many years of experience with radars for fighter aircraft. Indeed, the Council is the designated defence evaluation and research institute for radar systems for the Department of Defence.

It was this existing expertise which allowed the CSIR to extract maximum benefit for the country and the SAAF from the acquisition of the PS-05A: the South African specialists knew the right questions to ask the Swedes and knew the kind of information to ask for. And, because the CSIR experts were involved in the acquisition programme from the very beginning, including during the contract negotiations, they were able to persuade the Swedes to provide all the information the South Africans desired.

During a series of visits to the then Ericsson in Sweden, the CSIR collected formal technical information and detailed notes on the PS-05A. Armed with this information, and with ITS knowledge of the Southern African environment, the CSIR was then able to request modifications to the functioning of the radar to meet South African conditions.

Thus, a weather-mapping mode was added, because of the frequency of severe thunder and hailstorms in South Africa -- nobody wants to fly a very expensive fighter through a hailstorm if it can be avoided. And the air-to-sea mode of the radar was adjusted, to cope with the significant difference in sea conditions between the Baltic Sea and the South Atlantic and South Indian Oceans.

One very important aspect of the PS-05A radar programme in South Africa is that it has resulted in the development of a team of young radar professionals in this country.

The programme has also seen the development of close and trusting relationships between the CSIR, Saab and Saab EDS, and between the CSIR, the SAAF and South Africa's defence acquisition agency, Armscor, which have helped unlock further value for South Africa.

Complete story:

http://www.engineeringnews.co.za/article/gripen-fighter-programme-has-boosted-sas-radar-expertise-2010-09-01

Seems South Africa is happy with the Gripen ToT :)

Loke2
09-08-2010, 04:12 AM
The Gripen fighter, being phased into service by the South African Air Force (SAAF), is already delivering on the promises made by its manufacturer, Saab of Sweden.

This was reported on Wednesday by Council for Scientific and Industrial Research (CSIR) chief radar and electronic warfare systems engineer Francois Anderson.

Although the Gripen is still in the commissioning phase and thus is still classified as a project and not as operational aircraft, the fighters were used to help provide aerial security, enforcing restricted flight zones, for the 2010 FIFA World Cup in June and July.

The Gripens, which are operated by 2 Squadron at Air Force Base (AFB) Makhado in Limpopo province, were, during the World Cup, forward deployed to Pretoria and to AFB Overberg (near Bredasdorp) in Western Cape province.

"The pilots reported that the aircraft was delivering on the promises -- carefree handling, seamless [avionics] integration, excellent situational awareness, ease of operations away from base, and quick turnaround times," revealed Anderson.

Turnaround (refuelling and preparing an aircraft for a new mission, immediately after it has returned from a prior mission) times could be, it seems, as short as ten minutes.

SAAF tactical planning for Gripen patrols during the World Cup was supported by the CSIR.

"The CSIR's tactics simulation tool was used by the SAAF to determine the tactics for protecting the World Cup," explained CSIR modelling and simulation principle engineer John Monk. "The CSIR provides mission simulation capability to the SAAF to assist them in developing their tactics. The CSIR does not develop tactics. The SAAF does."

The development of a tactical simulation system for the Gripen involved the development of digital models of the aircraft, its radar warning receiver, missiles (using data supplied by local missile manufacturer Denel Dynamics), and datalink.

[...]

"The Gripen has seamlessly integrated digital avionics with data fusion," stated Anderson, who added that it had benign flying characteristics, was agile, designed for network centric warfare, was well equipped for electronic warfare, and was quite a stealthy design.

Complete story:

http://www.engineeringnews.co.za/article/new-saaf-fighter-is-delivering-the-goods-2010-09-01

signatory
09-08-2010, 07:44 AM
Partial integration becomes full integration with this order.

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Future missile system for Gripen

08 September 2010, in Press Release

Defence and security company Saab has received an order from FMV (the Swedish Defence Materiel Administration) regarding the integration of the active radar-guided Beyond Visual Range (BVR) missile, Meteor. The order is worth MSEK 312 spread over four years.

The integration means that Meteor will be adapted to other Gripen systems, such as the radar and displays. The order includes test flights and test firing, as well as the integration of Meteor with support and maintenance systems such as simulators and planning computers. The Swedish Gripen C/D aircraft will also have a two-way datalink for communication between the aircraft and the missile once it has been fired.

"Meteor has substantially better performance than any other BVR missile existing today, which will obviously increase Gripen's ability to defend against other aircraft," says Lennart Sindahl, Head of business area Aeronautics within Saab. "The fact that Gripen is also being used internationally as an airborne platform in the development of Meteor shows that we have a technical level in Sweden that few other countries can match."

Gripen has been used since 2006 as the test aircraft for the development of Meteor. Multiple missiles have been fired from Gripen to date. This experience can now be utilised for a more cost-effective integration of Meteor with the Swedish Armed Forces' Gripen C/D.

The order mainly concerns Saab's operations in Linköping and to some extent Gothenburg.

saabgroup (http://www.saabgroup.com/About-Saab/Newsroom/Press-releases--News/2010---9/Future-missile-system-for-Gripen/)

BjornD
09-10-2010, 04:22 PM
signatory.
Can you explain the integration or development of Taurus on Gripen ?


http://www.saabgroup.com/en/Air/Weapon_Systems/Air_to_Surface_Weapon_Systems/TAURUS_KEPD_350/
http://www.saabgroup.com/en/Air/Weapon_Systems/Air_to_Surface_Weapon_Systems/TAURUS_KEPD_350/Features/

signatory
09-14-2010, 01:52 PM
signatory.
Can you explain the integration or development of Taurus on Gripen ?


Not that much to say... There's partial integration on Gripen in that it has been verified to be usable in flight on the Gripen system.

Full integration will happen if someone orders the missile but the Swedish defense had this on its wish list before so it's more or less good to go as far as the aircraft is concerned. The A/B Gripens cant use the 350 standard version but C/D can and it's a weapon jointly developed by LFK-Lenkflugkörpersysteme GmbH and Saab Bofors Bofors Dynamics AB and they got a couple of customers for other jets.

They've accomplished nice things in the development so it's now officially a 500+ Km weapon.

Bit more in this pdf (http://products.saabgroup.com/PDBWebNew/GetFile.aspx?PathType=ProductFiles&FileType=Files&Id=8127)

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Czech Gripens has been to Leuchars for a show.

http://i52.*******.com/35jw4dgdotjpg
Stonefaction

http://i56.*******.com/1zc7cldotjpg
Alex (http://www.flickr.com/photos/22619791@N08/4983963438/)

ostrogot
09-14-2010, 05:44 PM
Signatory, in my opinion the combat radius of an a/c is the sum of a/c and its weapons. The KEPD must be an attractive addition for many scenarios and as focus now more and more moves to the Scandinavian Arctic areas, I have for a long time wanted it for our Luleå based sqadrons!

katjing
09-17-2010, 05:00 AM
http://www.dnaindia.com/india/report_iaf-to-acquire-126-multi-fighter-aircraft-soon_1437393

U.S, France or Sweden he says, but what does it mean?

Loke2
09-17-2010, 06:50 AM
http://www.dnaindia.com/india/report_iaf-to-acquire-126-multi-fighter-aircraft-soon_1437393 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gunnery_Sergeant)

U.S, France or Sweden he says, but what does it mean?
Your link is pointing to a Wiki page, should be:

http://www.dnaindia.com/india/report_iaf-to-acquire-126-multi-fighter-aircraft-soon_1437393

As for the contents; Indian media have reported so many conflicting rumors that one should be careful to interpret. However taken at face value one possible interpretation of the Air Marshal's statement could be that he seems to indicate that he expects Gripen NG to be on the short list (together with Rafale and one or two US birds).

Could of course be that he was misqouted by the journalist. Or that he meant something else. Perhaps he started listing all the countries participating in the MMRCA and then started coughing after listing the third country and therefore abruptly ended the sentence before it was completed.

Who knows.

katjing
09-17-2010, 05:01 PM
How embarrassing. Well I fixed it, not that it matters now.

I realize that it probably doesn't mean anything. I do however think that it will come down to one of those nations eventually anyway so the statement is probably true nonetheless.

jochen
09-18-2010, 03:30 AM
Small video of Gripen NG Demonstrator when it was at Farnborough.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yawd3bc1bjU
Credit: AMYJOHNSONJASON (http://www.youtube.com/user/AMYJOHNSONJASON)

jango
09-18-2010, 03:38 AM
good thread and forum

signatory
09-20-2010, 09:47 AM
http://www.fmv.se/upload/Grafik_pa_sidan/logo_fmvdotgif

2010-09-20 11:35

Sweden signs production order contract for Meteor missile

On the 17th of September FMV, the Swedish Defence Materiel Administration, signed a production order contract with United Kingdom MOD regarding the Meteor missile.

With the Meteor missile the JAS39 Gripen system gets a significantly increased capability to operate against air targets at long distances with very high performance.

http://img836.imageshack.us/img836/5436/imagevaulthandlerddotjpg
The Meteor is a Beyond Visual Range Air to Air Missile.

The European co-operation behind the Meteor missile system began in 2002 with UK as lead nation and Germany, France, Italy, Spain and Sweden as participants. Sweden has been a very active participant since the beginning and most of the test-firings during the development have been carried out with the JAS 39 Gripen aircraft as the primary development platform.

– The development has now reached the point where Sweden can sign a production order for operational missiles. Sweden is number three to sign production orders after UK and Spain, says Project Manager Michael Östergren at FMV.

From Sweden FMV´s Director General Gunnar Holmgren signed the agreement and from the UK it was General Sir Kevin O'Donoghue in his role as Chief of Defence Materiel within the UK MOD.

FMV has already signed an order with Saab Aerosystems for integration of the Meteor missile on the JAS39 Gripen C/D, version 20. The Meteor missile system is expected to be operational within the Swedish Air Force 2015.

http://img843.imageshack.us/img843/499/imagevaulthandlerdotjpg
The director general of FMV, Gunnar Holmgren, together with the british ambasador in Sweden, Andrew Mitchell.

Meteor Facts
Meteor is a next-generation radar-guided missile, driven by a ramjet engine. This makes it possible to adjust thrust and thereby maximizing the performance during the missile flight, as well as its speed and range. The missile is resistant to electronic countermeasures.

The type of missile that Meteor represents is known as BVRAAM, which stands for Beyond Visual Range Air to Air Missile. Swedish industry has collaborated in the development of subsystems for the missile. Subsystems will also be produced in Sweden during the production phase. The final assembly will take place in the UK.

FMV (http://www.fmv.se/WmTemplates/page.aspx?id=5295)

fish_b
09-20-2010, 10:22 AM
Seems like JAS is getting better with each day. Is this a move that foretells of the capabilaties of the NG ? Or is it more related to the E/F variants ?

kme
09-20-2010, 05:45 PM
Seems like JAS is getting better with each day. Is this a move that foretells of the capabilaties of the NG ? Or is it more related to the E/F variants ? JAS 39 E/F IS Gripen NG (Gripen in MS 21 configuration) in Swedish Air Force nomenclature.

signatory
09-21-2010, 04:50 AM
More fuel under the wings

http://i54.*******.com/141rrpsdotjpg

21 September 2010, in News

The Gripen NG Demo is now flying with new extra large drop-tanks. Instead of the more traditional 300 gallon tanks used by Gripen C/D these new external tanks can carry 450 gallons of fuel each.

Longer range
Combined with added spaces for internal fuel and a more fuel efficient engine Gripen NG will get substantially longer range and more time on station. The new drop-tanks are made by RUAG in Switzerland.

Photo credit: Stefan Kalm.

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http://i52.*******.com/2mozh1vdotjpg

http://i51.*******.com/34z0gtjdotjpg

Saabgroup (http://www.saabgroup.com/About-Saab/Newsroom/Press-releases--News/More-fuel-under-the-wings-of-Gripen-NG/)
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RTAF At FMTS

RTAF Air Marshal, Permkiat Lavanamal visited the Armed forces technical school to inspect training that is underway for RTAF crew.

http://i52.*******.com/1zpjn9edotjpg

http://i52.*******.com/b6a9e1dotjpg

http://i51.*******.com/ws1fg1dotjpg
Photos: Sven-Olof Willhöft Försvarsmakten

Article (http://www.forsvarsmakten.se/sv/Forband-och-formagor/Skolor/Forsvarsmaktens-tekniska-skola-FMTS/Nyheter/Viktigt-steg-i-Gripen-samarbetet-med-Thailand/)(Swedish link, use google-translate..)

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Bulgaria to Pick New Fighter Jets from among F-16, Eurofighter, and Gripen

Novinite - 21.09.2010

The Bulgarian government will most likely selected from among F-16, EurofighterTyphoon, or Gripen when it decides to purchase its new multipurpose fighter jets.

This has been announced by Defense Minister Anyu Angelov, who made it clear that few other options will be considered in addition to the American F-16, the German-UK-Italian-Spanish Eurofighter Typhoon, and the Swedish Gripen.

source (http://www.balkans.com/open-news.php?uniquenumber=71500)

Haell
09-21-2010, 04:54 AM
Gripen NG Demo is one sexy beast :)

gazell
09-21-2010, 04:28 PM
Not that much to say... There's partial integration on Gripen in that it has been verified to be usable in flight on the Gripen system.

Full integration will happen if someone orders the missile but the Swedish defense had this on its wish list before so it's more or less good to go as far as the aircraft is concerned. The A/B Gripens cant use the 350 standard version but C/D can and it's a weapon jointly developed by LFK-Lenkflugkörpersysteme GmbH and Saab Bofors Bofors Dynamics AB and they got a couple of customers for other jets.

They've accomplished nice things in the development so it's now officially a 500+ Km weapon.

Bit more in this pdf (http://products.saabgroup.com/PDBWebNew/GetFile.aspx?PathType=ProductFiles&FileType=Files&Id=8127)

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Czech Gripens has been to Leuchars for a show.

http://i52.*******.com/35jw4dgdotjpg
Stonefaction


Whoever took it, an absolutely beautiful winner of a photo.

madschristoffer
09-21-2010, 04:47 PM
i do agree, it is awsome :D

signatory
09-23-2010, 08:02 AM
Saab at NATO Days in the Czech Republic

22 September 2010, in News

During the weekend, NATO Days was held in Ostrava, the Czech Republic. This is Central Europe's largest event within aviation, military and civil security, and Saab was general sponsor.

[...]

10,000 flying hours

In June of this year, the Czech Air Force passed 10,000 flying hours with their 14 Gripen aircraft. This equates to more than 140 flying hours annually per aircraft, which is an impressive number of hours for the 5 years they have been operating Gripen.

Because of this, Major General Anders Silwer, Chief of Staff, Swedish Air Force, presented a framed photograph of Gripen to the Czech Air Force Commander, Brigadier General Jiří Verner, at a ceremony on Saab's stand.

"We have now passed half way through the lease of our aircraft, and I am very pleased with Gripen. Everything is working very well, and I look forward to at least another five years," remarked General Verner.

saab (http://www.saabgroup.com/About-Saab/Newsroom/Press-releases--News/2010---9/saab_at_nato_days_in_the_czech_republic/)

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Photo cred: Martin197. Czech 39 on display.

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Denmark

Additional industry MoU's in case of a Danish order of Gripen NG's.

COVI PRECISION (http://www.covi.dk/page.php?id=58&grp=Cases) a precision laser cutting and welding company has been approved for work on the Next Generation Gripen.

HAI Horsens A/S (http://www.hai.dk/dansk/om-hai/nyheder.aspx) a aluminium specialist has signed a contract that wold not only let the firm take part on the NG but also that Saab would finance a new Dkk 50m factory.

link (http://www.metal-supply.dk/article/view.html?id=53695)

link (http://www.metal-supply.dk/article/view.html?id=51809)

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GE testing new blade on F414

GE Aviation expects to begin ground tests in October in Peebles, Ohio, on a unique GEF414 F/A-18 fighter jet engine featuring a ceramic matrix composite low-pressure turbine blade that offers weight-savings and fuel-efficiency potential for military and commercial engines.

Article (http://www.aviationweek.com/aw/generic/story.jsp?id=news/avd/2010/09/17/10.xml&headline=New%20GE%20Engine%20Has%20Potential%20For%20Commercial%20Use&channel=mro)

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Green jetfuel could be locally produced

Pioneers in biofuel for jets
FMV is making preparations for a collaborative project with the US Air Force to develop and test a bio aviation fuel for combat aircraft. The project is one of the first in the world in this field and has strong potential as a future alternative fuel as well as a means of reducing the environmental impact of military flights.

Broad collaboration
In summer 2008, Ambassador Woods called on the Swedish Defence Minister with a proposal to establish bilateral collaboration to carry out a demonstration using a bio-based jet fuel, developed using the method in question, in a JAS 39 Gripen aircraft. FMV was then given the task by the Swedish government to examine the possibilities for such a project.

The project is now in the start-up phase and is run by the US and Swedish Air Forces in collaboration with Swedish Biofuels
and the aircraft industry (Saab, Volvo Aero, General Electric). Erik Prisell, Project Manager for the work at FMV, says that
2010 will be a planning year with the conduct of the trial itself due to take place over the three following years.

Efficient extraction process
The expectation is that it will be possible to extract the biofuel for combat aircraft from domestic wood waste. With the Swedish biofuels process it is possible to use a great deal of the wood waste after the wood and pulp industries have taken what they need. This makes the process cost-effective and environmentally adapted.

Wood is also a renewable raw material which gives no net emission of carbon dioxide. At the same time it is important to study the life cycle of the biofuel in order to be able to reach a final judgement on its overall usefulness. The process, however, is not dependent on wood in particular since, in theory, it can use any bio-material.

PDF source p.14 (http://www.fmv.se/upload/Bilder%20och%20dokument/Vad%20gor%20FMV/Verksamheter/Miljo/FMV%20Milj%C3%B6redovisning%20eng%200809.pdf)

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Saab, Sweden Court Bulgaria to Get Fighter Jet Deal

Defense | September 22, 2010, Wednesday

Representatives of the Swedish company Saab and the Swedish Defense Ministry have met with Bulgarian officials over the future tender of the Bulgarian government for the purchase of new fighter jets.

New article (http://www.novinite.com/view_news.php?id=120402)

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http://i53.*******.com/2wrjinkdotjpg
Photo cred: Martin197. Czech 39's on display.

katjing
09-24-2010, 06:37 AM
I can see how countries with no oil could be interested in biofuel so that they can fly their jets even if the oil countries cut their supply. This however seems like one of those stunts to lower carbon dioxide emission, and it's kind of ridiculous.

Slenke
09-24-2010, 07:09 AM
I can see how countries with no oil could be interested in biofuel so that they can fly their jets even if the oil countries cut their supply. This however seems like one of those stunts to lower carbon dioxide emission, and it's kind of ridiculous.
No it's more like saving money by producing jet fuel on site, in for example Afghanistan.

katjing
09-24-2010, 10:36 AM
No it's more like saving money by producing jet fuel on site, in for example Afghanistan.
Exactly how would it be cheap to produce biofuel in Afghanistan?

signatory
09-25-2010, 12:07 PM
South African AF On Operations:

Gripens do half of 51 World Cup intercepts

Saturday, 25 September 2010 16:19

The South African Air Force's (SAAF) growing fleet of SAAB Gripen fighters conducted about half the 51 aircraft intercepts conducted during the June/July soccer world cup. The SAAF deployed 11 of the available 15 Gripen during the month-long tournament as well as 12 of 24 BAE Systems Hawk lead-in fighter trainers.

[...]

“In terms of radar sensor information, the CAF (chief of the air force, Lieutenant General Carlo Gagiano, who spoke before Lombard) alluded to the effectiveness of the Gripen radar, it was really marvellous to see the effectiveness of that and many low flying aircraft were considerably surprised by our ability to detect them in areas where they thought they could fly under radar coverage.

The Gripen could pass on the data – via Link ZA – to the SCC so that intercepts could be vectored onto them. This opens up a whole new concept of operations within the SAAF and is something we will pursue down the line.

link (http://www.defenceweb.co.za/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=9764:gripens-do-half-of-51-world-cup-intercepts&catid=35:Aerospace&Itemid=107)

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Gripen and Hawk combo-trix

http://img713.imageshack.us/img713/383/djgripensmalldotjpg

Chief of the Air Force, Lieutenant General Carlo Gagiano gave some detail on the country’s newly-acquired fighter and fighter trainer aircraft, the SAAB Gripen and BAE Hawk of which South Africa has one squadron each.

“In today’s demonstration, you will see Hawk and Gripen together and this has always been my idea that we should utilise the Hawk platform not only as a trainer but as a fighter trainer and slowly that is sinking in. Pretty shortly we will have the A-Darter (missile) on the Hawk. That, coupled to a helmet-mounted sight, will give it a tremendous ability. That, coupled to a data link to the Gripen, and you will have exactly the same radar picture as what you will have in the Gripen."

Read more: (http://www.digitaljournal.com/article/297284#ixzz10YQop6gv)

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Czech Republic AF On Operations:

5 year into the lease and 10,000 flight hours. The Czech Air Force Commander, Brigadier General Jiří Verner spoke on Gripen ops.

GT:

Experience of flying is excellent according to Verner. Whether the reliability or service. "From our viewpoint, this is a great machine," said Verner.

For five years, according to the service it clear that some arguments against this airplane were completely unfounded. Like compatibility within NATO.

Czech Gripen in Baltic Air Policing according to Verner that Gripens smoothly all the time guarding the airspace of not only Czech but also within NATO early warning system NATINEADS. And above last year's first-ever international mission with Gripen Czech pilots in the Baltics, where the pilots for four months in the NATO operation to protect the airspace of Lithuania, Latvia and Estonia.

There were 330 pilots a trip missions over the Baltic flew 400 hours and a total of eight times over their heads, they rang alarm disseminated to a sharp start, when they had to air mostly due to Russian military airplanes.

Gripen there absolutely proved, for example, it is not so demanding on the number of ground personnel. Within NATO, shook their heads as Czech Air Force managed such a task with so few people, and therefore cheaply, when other allies in the Baltic States have doubled to tripled large contingents. Further deployments in the Baltics is already planning the Czech army and the Alliance next year.


link (http://zpravy.idnes.cz/ceske-gripeny-slavi-10-tisic-hodin-ve-vzduchu-****ajem-skonci-za-pet-let-1mz-/zpr_nato.asp?c=A100924_113235_zpr_nato_inc)

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New Reconnaissance Pod ready for South African Gripen
24 September 2010, in News

Thales yesterday announced the delivery to Saab of its Digital Joint Reconnaissance Pod (DJRP), for installation on the South African Gripen. The announcement was made during the Africa Aerospace & Defence exhibition in Cape Town. Saab will now start a series of integration flight trials.

link (http://www.saabgroup.com/About-Saab/Newsroom/Press-releases--News/2010---9/New-Reconnaissance-Pod-ready-for-South-African-Gripen/)

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SAAB presents plans for Brazilian research center

SAAB's new CEO visited Defence Minister Nelson Jobim on Friday to present himself and plans to start up a new research center in Brazil even if the gov opts to not buy the Gripen for F-X2.

The mayor of Sao Bernardo, Luiz Marinho (PT) and Håkan Buskhe (CEO-SAAB) signed an agreement on the center which will start up this October.

The research center would develop projects of radars, sensors, electronic warfare, electro-optical systems, command and control and also to civil security products that can be applied to protect power plants, stadiums and major events such as the Olympics and World Cup.

link (http://www.dci.com.br/noticia.asp?id_editoria=2&id_noticia=343485)

link (http://www.dgabc.com.br/News/5832175/saab-tera-centro-de-pesquisas-em-s-bernardo.aspx)

katjing
09-25-2010, 08:08 PM
It's great to see that the customers seem to be proud of their Gripens and also seem to be happy to fly them due to affordability. But what is the reason for the C:s low reliability? Were they the last birds delivered?

On a side note, all aircraft should get one of those awesome paint jobs.

signatory
09-26-2010, 04:29 AM
Sounds like a misunderstanding. The C's have very high reliability.

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Exercise JOINT WARRIOR 2010, Serial 2 (JW 102)

UK and Allied forces Tri-service Training for Operations

Introduction

Exercise JOINT WARRIOR (JW) is a UK wide, tri-service exercise conducted in the Spring and the Autumn of each year; it is assessed that JW is the largest exercise in Europe. The second of 2010’s JW Exercises (JW 102) will take place between 4 – 15 Oct 2010.

[...]

There will be in the region of 35 aircraft, Support and Attack helicopters from all three UK services augmented by visiting NATO and Allied Air Forces. UK participation includes Tornado GR4, VC10 and Tristar AAR, E3D and Hawk.

Allied and visiting air participants, including F15Cs from RAF Lakenheath, up to 12 Swedish Air Force Gripen multirole aircraft deployed to RAF Lossiemouth, NATO E3A and P3 Maritime Patrol Aircraft from Germany and Norway based at RAF Kinloss. It is planned to fly approximately 65 combat and support missions per day on day and night sorties throughout the period. Limited night and weekend flying will be undertaken from RAF Lossiemouth and RAF Kinloss.


RAF (http://www.raf.mod.uk/crowales/exerciseops/jointwarrior2010.cfm)

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Photo from AAD, South Africa.

http://img811.imageshack.us/img811/825/50233938194cb9aefc90bdotjpg
Photo cred: Wesley Nitsckie

Breerman
09-26-2010, 05:05 AM
It's great to see that the customers seem to be proud of their Gripens and also seem to be happy to fly them due to affordability. But what is the reason for the C:s low reliability? Were they the last birds delivered?
In every joint-exercise Gripen has had superior reliability compared to counterparts.


On a side note, all aircraft should get one of those awesome paint jobs.
It's a bit like looking on a custom car, looks cool but you wouldn't want it on your own car. I figure it's not paint but a screen but I still wouldn't mess with the coat.

katjing
09-26-2010, 07:37 AM
In every joint-exercise Gripen has had superior reliability compared to counterparts.
Sure, but the article states that the C's had a reliability of 89 % during the world cup whereas the D's had 98 %. It doesn't add up, so I asked about it.

Slenke
09-26-2010, 07:56 AM
Exactly how would it be cheap to produce biofuel in Afghanistan?
Do you know how expensive it is to transport fuel into Afghanistan?

katjing
09-26-2010, 08:36 AM
Do you know how expensive it is to transport fuel into Afghanistan?
I've no idea. Do you know how expensive it would be to build facilities to produce biofuel, transport the biomass, actually produce the fuel and then transport the fuel to it's destination?

Those biofuel plants better pay themselves off real quick, because when we leave them to the Afghans, and we will, they will be done for.

All things considered it would almost seem cheaper to airlift fuel.

I do however see how it would be better to fly jets on all that cannabis than let the ANA smoke it.

signatory
09-26-2010, 09:23 AM
Sure, but the article states that the C's had a reliability of 89 % during the world cup whereas the D's had 98 %. It doesn't add up, so I asked about it.

They have had the D's for longer and in double the numbers so that could explain a difference. I don't know the ratio used during the WC but essentially if one of the C's had to sit out one day the whole C-fleet availability number would drop twice as high as if the same had to happen to a D. The C's are also direct off the factory so.. still a bit wet behind the ears.

The biofuel is mostly a political idea on the Swedish side because of environmental concerns that is the simple truth, it could also with higher energy taxes become a cheaper fuel. But on the American side it probably has more to do with hopes to reduce dependence on foreign oil. This would also be a positive factor for Sweden (with large biomass sources) and other nations if there was a oil crisis or blockade.

I personally think this will be the cheaper type of fuel in the future based on where politics is moving and with a known supply-need for producing x amounts of flight hours the government can order by the bulk from a local producer on a more stable price than that based on imported oil.

Slenke
09-26-2010, 12:46 PM
I've no idea. $400 / gallon average.


All things considered it would almost seem cheaper to airlift fuel.
"And moving fuel by convoy or even airlift is expensive, according to the Army news release from July 16, which quoted Geiss. In some places, Geiss said, analysts have estimated the fully burdened cost of fuel might even be as high as $1,000 per gallon."

http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/63407-400gallon-gas-another-cost-of-war-in-afghanistan-

Ambassador
09-30-2010, 12:28 AM
I heard the price competitiveness of Gripen NG compared to JSF is closely dependent on the weakness of US dollar because 33% of Gripen NG's content comes from the US. Does anyone know what those 33% are composed of?

flarkey
09-30-2010, 05:03 AM
http://www.defenceweb.co.za/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=9797:saaf-gripens-to-gain-new-recce-pods&catid=35:Aerospace&Itemid=107


Thales Optronics has delivered an undisclosed number of its Digital Joint Reconnaissance Pod (DJRP) to SAAB of Sweden for installation on the South African Gripen. The announcement, made last week during the Africa Aerospace & Defence exhibition in Cape Town, did not mention numbers or the value of the deal. Saab will now start a series of integration flight trials.

The media release adds the DJRP completed its factory integration tests at the company's Scottish operation in Glagow in June. Handover of the reconnaissance pod to the South African Air Force (SAAF) will occur after the integration phase. Aviation journal Flightglobal reports this will be from June next year.

Christian Lamoureux, CEO of Thales South Africa, says the company is “proud of this important milestone in our long-standing relationship with the South African Air Force."

Thales Optronics' sales and marketing director Geraint Lloyd describes the DJRP as "a bespoke reconnaissance sensor with broad-area swath coverage", and confirms that the company was selected via prime contractor Saab. The DJRP is integrated onto fighter aircraft, such as the Gripen, and takes high-resolution images of the battlefield as it flies overhead. The digital images from the pod are then exploited by Image Analysts on the ground to assess what tactical decisions need to be taken.

The programme may be further along than the statement suggests. Journalists attending the SAAF's air capability demonstration earlier this month were given a black-and-white photograph printed on site at Roodewal of the crowd watching the spectacle, downloaded by datalink from a passing Gripen.

Flightglobal adds Thales Optronics beat competition from Rafael's Reccelite and a system already in use with the Swedish Air Force's Gripens – believed to be from Danish supplier Terma - to win the SAAF deal.

The selection represents a follow-on success for Thales, with the company having previously acquired UK supplier W Vinten, which provided its Vinten 18 wet film reconnaissance systems for the SAAF's now-retired Denel Cheetah fighters, Flightglobal adds.

Weighing around 250kg, the DJRP has already been integrated with the UK Royal Air Force's BAE Systems Harrier GR7/9 and Panavia Tornado GR4 strike aircraft, and with BAE's Hawk advanced jet trainer. With the SAAF's inventory including 24 Hawk 120s, Lloyd says the reconnaissance pod's "multi-platform capability" was a significant factor in its selection for the service.

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JohanGrön
09-30-2010, 04:02 PM
137984
Not directly connected to Gripen but as I get it of significance for the MMRCA is the recent news from India (http://livefist.blogspot.com/2010/09/this-is-huge-ge-f414-engine-lowest.html) that DRDO have choosen the GE F414 engine to power their LCA Tejas MKII. This is the same engine that is to power Gripen IN and currently powers the Gripen NG demonstrator (and also powers the Super Hornet).



The Price Negotiating Committee for the Alternate Engine for LCA Mk-2 has finalised the Comparative Statement of Tenders. The committee had its representations from Ministry of Defence, Defence Finance, ADA, DRDO, HAL, Indian Air Force, and Indian Navy. After evaluation and acceptance of the Technical offer provided by both Eurojet and GE Aviation, the commercial quotes were compared in detail and GE Aviation was declared as the lowest bidder. Further price negotiations and contract finalization will follow.


This news is on contrary to the recent speculations of Eurojet EJ200 being the frontrunner. Eurojet acknowledges their defeat (http://livefist.blogspot.com/2010/09/eurojet-reacts-to-defeat-says-decision.html).

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From South Africa:


The acquisition of the Saab Gripen fighter by the South African Air Force (SAAF) has further strengthened the country's expertise in the sphere of airborne radars, Council for Scientific and Industrial Research (CSIR) chief radar and electronic warfare systems engineer Francois Anderson said on Wednesday.

The Gripen is equipped with the Saab EDS (previously Ericsson) PS-05A radar. "We have more information on the PS-05A than on any other foreign radar ever acquired by South Africa," he stated.

The CSIR has decades of experience with radar in general and many years of experience with radars for fighter aircraft. Indeed, the Council is the designated defence evaluation and research institute for radar systems for the Department of Defence.

It was this existing expertise which allowed the CSIR to extract maximum benefit for the country and the SAAF from the acquisition of the PS-05A: the South African specialists knew the right questions to ask the Swedes and knew the kind of information to ask for. And, because the CSIR experts were involved in the acquisition programme from the very beginning, including during the contract negotiations, they were able to persuade the Swedes to provide all the information the South Africans desired.

During a series of visits to the then Ericsson in Sweden, the CSIR collected formal technical information and detailed notes on the PS-05A. Armed with this information, and with ITS knowledge of the Southern African environment, the CSIR was then able to request modifications to the functioning of the radar to meet South African conditions.

Thus, a weather-mapping mode was added, because of the frequency of severe thunder and hailstorms in South Africa -- nobody wants to fly a very expensive fighter through a hailstorm if it can be avoided. And the air-to-sea mode of the radar was adjusted, to cope with the significant difference in sea conditions between the Baltic Sea and the South Atlantic and South Indian Oceans.

One very important aspect of the PS-05A radar programme in South Africa is that it has resulted in the development of a team of young radar professionals in this country.

The programme has also seen the development of close and trusting relationships between the CSIR, Saab and Saab EDS, and between the CSIR, the SAAF and South Africa's defence acquisition agency, Armscor, which have helped unlock further value for South Africa.

Complete story:

http://www.engineeringnews.co.za/article/gripen-fighter-programme-has-boosted-sas-radar-expertise-2010-09-01

Seems South Africa is happy with the Gripen ToT :)

Here is the video recording of the session with Francois Anderson about the PS-05A in South Africa entitled Managing for future outcomes: Lessons learnt from the Gripen radar acquisition support project (http://146.64.81.80/View.aspx?ID=2485~4t~UXINjDBG). Seems SAAF are very happy with what they got in terms of the raw capability and ECCM modes and they verifies that it is not a downgraded export version but the real McCoy.

I found another video session with John Monk about how SAAF simulates Gripen tactics (demonstration of a Gripen CAP with short range ir-missiles handling a red force with long range radarguided missiles) entitled The development of a Gripen tactics simulation capability (http://146.64.81.80/View.aspx?ID=2486~4u~vy7dUPN4).


Cheers
//JG

signatory
10-04-2010, 07:46 PM
Thanks Johan!

More on the SAAF radar experience in PDF-format here (http://www.csir.co.za/publications/pdfs/02_pdfsam_12-47.pdf).
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Joint Warrior 4-14 Oct

14 x JAS 39C/D from the Swedish Air Force has now arrived at RAF Lossiemouth for the JW Ex.

Main training for the SwAF is to practice deployment in support of marine and ground forces with allied nations.

http://img69.imageshack.us/img69/515/img5820web02dotjpg
On arrival. Cred: oneman, Northern Outpost Aviation Group

FV (http://www.forsvarsmakten.se/sv/Forband-och-formagor/Forband/Norrbottens-flygflottilj-F-21/Nyheter/Stort-svenskt-deltagande-pa-Joint-Warrior-2010/)
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From: FMV's Sensorsymposium 2010 (http://www.fmv.se/WmTemplates/Page.aspx?id=5111)

Gripen gone link-crazy.

http://img4.imageshack.us/img4/8474/linksgonealldotjpg

And we got famous... during a EW-presentation:

http://i56.*******.com/e16zuvdotjpg

Zoom'd
http://i52.*******.com/1248qrndotjpg

p-)

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Eye on Volvo Aero Corporation considering the news from India:


Flight-time leading RM12 engine presented to customers

http://img96.imageshack.us/img96/1416/rm12sed2dotjpg

The RM 12 engine, serial no. 12117, which leads the running-time statistics, was recently presented to customers at a clean layout event in the Volvo Aero overhaul shop. The engine, which has completed 1,600 flying hours, was dismantled and inspected, then its components were laid out on display. “As it is very rare for an engine to be presented in this way, this was a golden opportunity to show visitors what an engine looks like after operating for so many hours,” commented Björn Karlsson, project manager RM 12 flight leader programme.

Participants who took advantage of this unique opportunity included the Swedish Armed Forces, the Swedish Defence Materiel Administration (FMV ), General Electric, the US Navy and Gripen export customers.

The RM 12 engine is Volvo Aero’s state-of-theart contribution to the Gripen fighter aircraft, which recently completed 140,000 flight hours without reporting any engine-related incident.

VAC (http://www.volvoaero.com/SiteCollectionDocuments/VAC/pdf/2010/AERen1_10.pdf)

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In 2006, (http://www.avitrader.com/press/printview.aspx?id=1590) VAC signed an agreement with the Indian MoD (http://www.volvoaero.com/SiteCollectionDocuments/VAC/pdf/AERen1_06_webb.pdf) on gas turbine related programs. Their offices is right next door to the GTRE.

But more importantly more F414's being sold is a very nice thing for both Gripen NG and VAC who since 2000 is a strategic partner with GE on the engine. The price could also drop. For Saab's Gripen campaigners it also means they can spend a little less time on defending its 'evil American engine' and perhaps more on operational capability. But it's nothing that normally should change the outcome of the MMRCA.

Currently VAC is working (among other things) with the fan to what could be the next generation Gripen engine. They also have several upgrade solutions for the RM12 (+, ++) on both reduced cost, lower signature and higher T/W. VAC also supports the F414G work on the Gripen Demonstrator together with GE.

Note: Approximately 90% of American made 4-5th gen fighter jets and 90% of all new large passenger jets fly around with components from VAC.

signatory
10-04-2010, 11:26 PM
Congratulations to 211sq!

On Monday the Czech Air Force 211Th.Sq was awarded (http://www.natotigers.org/tigermeet/premeet.php?ntmID=49)full membership to the NATO Tiger Association.

They also got another eye-catching Gripen. This one also has a sabre-tiger skull on its fin.

http://img821.imageshack.us/img821/7658/img6870wdotjpg

http://img101.imageshack.us/img101/1700/img6910edotjpg

signatory
10-05-2010, 10:24 PM
SAAF to solo first Gripen pilots

The South African Air Force (SAAF) will on Thursday present the first locally qualified Saab Gripen fighter pilots during a solo flying event to be held at Air Force Base Makhado. The four pilots, three males (black, Indian and white) and a first-ever SAAF female Gripen fighter pilot (white), successfully completed the type Operational Conversion Course (OCC).

The SAAF in a statement says the “achievement is a milestone in the history of South Africa, the SANDF and the SAAF as this is the first OCC to be presented by local SAAF pilot instructors from 2 Squadron... The four newly qualified Gripen fighter pilots will fly solo to showcase the SAAF’s combat readiness in ensuring that the airspace over the Republic of South Africa, its citizens and its sovereignty are protected.”

[..]


Defence Web (http://www.defenceweb.co.za/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=9885&catid=35&Itemid=107)

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JASPK 39

The centre-line mounted Reconnaissance Pod SPK 39 (http://www.saabgroup.com/en/Air/Sensor_Systems/Reconnaissance_Systems/MRPS_Modular_Reconnaissance_Pod_System/) system (MRPS) and LITENING G3 pod on this 39C taking part during Joint Warrior Ex.

Intel gathering: SPK 39+LITENING+PS/05A+EWS-39...

http://img192.imageshack.us/img192/2658/50513430195d5d053bb4bdotjpg
JW cred: Calum Reid

griphon
10-06-2010, 04:08 AM
@ Signatory
Did Saab made a new offer to the romanian goverment, now that the F16 programme is on hold due lack of funds? The first tranche had to be payed on 3rd of June. The US gave us two more months, until the 3rd of August. Still no money yet. Is Saab/GI back in the race for new romanian multirole fighter?

signatory
10-06-2010, 04:33 AM
@ Signatory
Did Saab made a new offer to the romanian goverment, now that the F16 programme is on hold due lack of funds? The first tranche had to be payed on 3rd of June. The US gave us two more months, until the 3rd of August. Still no money yet. Is Saab/GI back in the race for new romanian multirole fighter?

I think Saab/Sweden and the Eurofighter guys is trying to push for a real official competition instead of just a few formal talks now and then... this is Saab's position as of June 2010:

http://img692.imageshack.us/img692/9623/roman1bdotjpg

RFP = Request for Proposal.

fish_b
10-06-2010, 08:46 AM
Where did that come from. I've been lojing for any new info for some time. Also are you sure its the whole document ??

Cuz it says just 24 aircraft ????

It was supposed to be 48 since 24 would leave serious gaps in our air defences . Baiscaly they would not be able to defend patroll,police more then 2/3 of the country and that is a strech. At least thats what i understood from some officials comments.

It's a shame really we used to be so proud of our pilots and air force. Most of the veterans are dead in plane crashes now...!



On topic again: Saab officials have forwarded a formal protest the last i heard to the EU and romanian parliament in regards to the failed (thank god and good riddence those flyng toombstones are out of the picture i hope) F-16 purchase.

It was a political decision and as i understood it was not passed through all the proper channels .



I will look for some articles but basicly Saab was offering more for the same dolar value with a bigger offset and a big delay in first payment.

griphon
10-06-2010, 09:03 AM
It was a political decision and as i understood it was not passed through all the proper channels .
In Romania these "proper channels" do not exist. Maybe due to extreme pro US politics...24 aircraft would be the minimal number for RoAF(6- in QRA, the rest in maintenance, training duties..)
Sorry for off topic...

fish_b
10-06-2010, 09:14 AM
Just for the fun of it 48 is considered the minimum with which the romanian airforce can do its job properly . Almost all the people who know anithing about air coverage and such operations advised at first about purchasing at least 50 planes .

Also these proper channels do exist its just that they have not been used in such a long time they cloged up and rusted shut.


You know what they say "A bribe a day goes a long long way in securing you a multibillion dolar/euro contract for your worthless piece of junk 40 years old " :D


Whut....its true...!


Also these new figures i keep reading about the '39 never cease to amaze me . They just keep getting better and better.

If Saab keeps developing its tech in a similar manner in the future it will be able to stand shoulder to shoulder with any of the big ones out there. (yeah i dont consider Saab to be one of the big ones....not yet. But it sure is close. )

signatory
10-06-2010, 06:58 PM
Where did that come from. I've been lojing for any new info for some time. Also are you sure its the whole document ??

Cuz it says just 24 aircraft ????

It was supposed to be 48 since 24 would leave serious gaps in our air defences . Baiscaly they would not be able to defend patroll,police more then 2/3 of the country and that is a strech. At least thats what i understood from some officials comments.

It's a shame really we used to be so proud of our pilots and air force. Most of the veterans are dead in plane crashes now...!



On topic again: Saab officials have forwarded a formal protest the last i heard to the EU and romanian parliament in regards to the failed (thank god and good riddence those flyng toombstones are out of the picture i hope) F-16 purchase.

It was a political decision and as i understood it was not passed through all the proper channels .



I will look for some articles but basicly Saab was offering more for the same dolar value with a bigger offset and a big delay in first payment.

My pic comes from a market presentation Saab did in June and reflects how they see opportunities...

When Saab now writes 24 it's not a fixed number but what they see as most likely in a first deal because of political situation but a contract would hold options for additional aircraft no doubt. (South Africa only bought 9 in its first deal...) If I remember the suggested F-16 deal in front of parliament was also split up with the first part 24 upgraded jets (upgrade costs, training etc being the big money) and that package cost more than what Saab was suggesting to parliament etc but afaik it has not been possible to offer a true official proposal because they (or anyone other than LM/DoD) never got the request from the gov.

We'll see...

Slenke
10-06-2010, 07:36 PM
What technology from the NG is the E/F, the version for the SwAF, likely to contain? Swashplate Raven AESA radar or NORA?

signatory
10-06-2010, 08:17 PM
What technology from the NG is the E/F, the version for the SwAF, likely to contain? Swashplate Raven AESA radar or NORA?

How about both... research on NORA's is used for the future nose radar no matter who supplies the front end. The military is defining the future SwAF Gripen roadmap atm... they got a few months still to paint the big picture.

Slenke
10-07-2010, 02:15 AM
How about both... research on NORA's is used for the future nose radar no matter who supplies the front end. The military is defining the future SwAF Gripen roadmap atm... they got a few months still to paint the big picture.
Ok thanks!

But is it safe to say the E/F will have AESA, IRST, GE414 and more internal fuel?

signatory
10-07-2010, 03:43 AM
Ok thanks!

But is it safe to say the E/F will have AESA, IRST, GE414 and more internal fuel?

Well nothing is ever safe until the stuff has been delivered :) And there's many years still.. over time, yes I would say so based on what's known today. But I could imagine IRST and additional radar upgrades to be contracted later unless there's a export customer who requests Sweden to fly the same config from start.

Thing about NORA III is that it researches on a multi-channel multi-functional radar with highly complex receiver/exiters but today theres's no hardware capable enough (maybe 2020) to support a full scale product with all desired features so the first AESA-system has to be a first step that can over time be upgraded and now Selex and Saab collaborates on Gripen NG radar.. most likely they will work together for the next several decades.

To a large extent it's in the boxes behind the array that the magic happens... The current radar has too changed alot over time and is not too shabby...

signatory
10-08-2010, 02:32 AM
"Siren" - The First Female Gripen Fighter Pilot

http://www.timeslive.co.za/multimedia/dynamic/01145/701786_632569_1145494bdotjpg

Maj. Catherine 'Siren' Labuschagne and her three course companions Lieutenant Colonel. Gys 'Samurai' van der Walt, Maj. Lance 'Lancelot' Mathebula and 2lt. Kevin 'Saffron' Chetty is the first locally produced SAAF Gripen fighter pilots.

On Thursday three of the four flew solo for the first time.

http://img192.imageshack.us/img192/8383/e4a4312c54ec4dd5a54703edotjpg

http://img815.imageshack.us/img815/9786/62271c055ef74d469eb7007dotjpg

Cheers...

http://img824.imageshack.us/img824/374/5683c9191edf4b9cb4bbff0dotjpg

Make it official!

http://img843.imageshack.us/img843/4686/b45c07b8017046e5b14d6addotjpg

Times (http://www.timeslive.co.za/local/article695648.ece/A-world-first-for-SAs-woman-Gripen-pilot)

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BAP Tour #2

The Czech military plans to send in 2012 Czech aircraft to the joint NATO protection of the airspace of Estonia, Latvia and Lithuania. Pilots with Jas-39 Gripen fighters were on a similar mission there in 2009 already.


Praguemonitor (http://www.praguemonitor.com/2010/10/07/govt-approves-foreign-missions-until-2013)

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signatory
10-08-2010, 03:48 AM
Sweden: Aerospace Technology Conference 2010

October 18-19. (http://www.flygtekniskaforeningen.org/files/2741) (Not for the greater public.)

A range of interesting presentations related to Gripen will be held and as development for Gripen NG is now kicking into a higher gear a few of them especially so. Kind of puts an eye on some R&D programs.

Listing a bunch: (some google-translate here)

D1. Development of new
flight radar with AESA - a
unique collaborative project,
Kenneth Smith, Saab

D2. Nora III, a multi-channel
AESA radar, Michael
Granström, Saab

O3. Signature Adaptation of the engine exhaust,
Stefan Magic Heden,
Volvo Aero

J6. Development of wireless
sensor network for jet engine
health monitoring, Peter
Nilsson, AAC Microtec

G3. Active flow control in air-intake with low
signature, Magnus Tormalm
& Per-Ake Torlund, FOI

N1. How do we develop the next
generation of decision support
and HMI for the Gripen?
Joakim Notstrand, Saab

N2. Tactical Data Links
- Path to the future
Gripen, Peter Heller;
Saab

O5. Flight testing the Gripen
NG Demonstrator, Matt
Bergstrom, Saab

A6. Gripen's future development,
Per Våtz, Saab

A5. Latest developments
in ERIEYE AEW & C, Erik
Winberg, Saab

T4.
Small active broadband
antenna arrays for electronic warfare applications,
Henrik Holter,
Saab

L4. European collaborative study
- Requirements and
technology for next generation
combat aircraft, Petter
Grabbe, Saab

L5. Concept future
fighter - generic scorecard
for Aeronautics R & T, Jan
Tano, Saab

G6. Composite structures
High ruggedness
for military aircraft, one
Swedish program, Niclas
Pearson, Saab

G6. Composite structures
High ruggedness
for military aircraft, one
Swedish program, Niclas
Pearson, Saab

J4. The next generation of structural materials
for air - New opportunities through
nanotechnology, Pontus Nordin
Saab

O1. Stealth - History, Present
and Prospects, James
Bjerkemo, Saab

O2. SIGNOS: a 5G fighter frontend
demonstrator with low
radar signature, Anders Höök,
Saab

A4. Wideband Array
Antenna System
Development, Maria
Lanne, Saab

G4. Transonic Wind
Tunnel Test at High
Reynolds Numbers of an
Air Inlet with S-shaped
Diffuser Duct with
Flow Control Devices
(Vortex Generators and
Micro-jets), Ingemar
Samuelsson, STARCS

L6. Realisation and flight
testing of a scaled generic
fighter, Christopher
Jouannet, LiU

signatory
10-08-2010, 10:53 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=06TbN-8ai8s
UL: SaabGroup

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CzAF @ NTM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a_-jqO_nR7c
UL: leonardvanT

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Multi-role aircraft deal expected to be finalised by next year: IAF chief

"We had submitted the M-MRCA report with the defence ministry on July 30. If everything goes of well, then the contract should be signed by July 30 next year," he told reporters on the sidelines of the Air Force day parade today.

DNA (http://www.dnaindia.com/india/report_multi-role-aircraft-deal-expected-to-be-finalised-by-next-year-iaf-chief_1449440)

JohanGrön
10-13-2010, 03:34 AM
I have been given the go ahead by the journalist Vishnu Som to reproduce an article originally posted in the Indian aviation magazine Vayu Aerospace & Defence Review (http://www.vayuaerospace.in/). As he has flown both the Gripen Demo and Gripen D aircraft in Sweden and the article is a fair bit on the Gripen NG I like to post it in the Gripen News thread.

Various interesting links:
Almost a Fighter Pilot (http://www.vayuaerospace.in/images1/Almost_a_fighter.pdf) (original article, as pdf)
Pics of the Gripen NG sortie from Livefist (http://livefist.blogspot.com/2010/10/ndtvs-vishnu-som-rides-gripen-ng.html) (shot by Jamie Hunter)
A Swedish Affair (http://www.vayuaerospace.in/images1/Exhibition_A_Swedish_Affair.pdf) (about the Swedish aviation industry centennial at Malmen this summer, as pdf)

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Couldn't help to read the comments on the Livefist blogpost (http://livefist.blogspot.com/2010/10/ndtvs-vishnu-som-rides-gripen-ng.html?showComment=1286934766063#c2933108737260567879) and found this one by Vishnu as a response to another comment about Gripen NG (i.e Gripen Demo) not beeing able of sustained supercruise.



Hi Kunal ... I have experienced sustained supercruise in the Gripen NG ... I dont want to get into the Mach number, but with 2 Air to Air missiles (it does it with 4)... we supercruised at 23,000 feet and would have kept going until we ran out of gas. At higher altitudes the speed would have been even higher.
Thanks
Vishnu Som


[EDIT 14/10-2010 09:15 CET+1 DS] Vishnu added a couple of comments on the Livefist blogpost (http://livefist.blogspot.com/2010/10/ndtvs-vishnu-som-rides-gripen-ng.html?showComment=1286967028696#c405226424940300069) :


Kunal ... Supercruise is a genuine game changer ... and remember the NG I flew is essentially a flying hack ... a new build, single seater built from the onset to NG construction specifications would be one mighty fast jet. It would lose the weight of the second cockpit, and test equipment as well ... I am told ALL supercruisers need reheat to cross the supersonic barrier ... but for a jet that tools around at .8 to
.85 Mach ... making the transition to Mach 1 means using burner for only a few seconds ... This is obviously the case of a pretty clean jet with just two wingtip missiles but one wont really eat up a whole lot more fuel if she is flying with 4 AAMs.

And to the anonymous comment on how 4 AAMs isnt a useful load ... I beg to differ. With the additional capability of supercruise ... the trade off of 2 fewer AAMs may well be worth it.

Cheers
Vishnu Som

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Hi Kunal ... Valid points all ... I should point out ... that our super cruise sortie ... which included plenty of high g manoeuvers and also a low speed profile lasted more than 45 minutes ... we would have been close to full internal fuel ... but yes, it is a delicate operation since you lose speed very quickly if you are not in a straight and level flight. I really don't want to get into our supercruise Mach numbers but they were very robust.
Thanks
Vishnu


=== Intro by Vishnu Som ===

Hi ... For those interested in the MMRCA race... I had the opportunity to `fly' the Gripen NG a few months back in Sweden ... This is an article I wrote for the Indian Aviation Magazine Vayu ... A fair bit of it is on the Gripen NG ... I have also flown sorties on some of the other competing jets. Enjoy

Livefist.blogspot.com has some nice, new Gripen NG images (http://livefist.blogspot.com/2010/10/ndtvs-vishnu-som-rides-gripen-ng.html) as well shot by Jamie Hunter of my NG sortie recently ... Anyway, enjoy ...


=== The article as follows ===

Almost a Fighter Pilot

Vishnu Som, Associate Editor and Senior Anchor, New Delhi Television (NDTV).

All of us have dreams which remain unfulfilled. Thats just the way it is. Many of us have imagined ourselves as cricket stars only to find ourselves working a desk job, others may have wanted to become filmstars but ended up doing something utterly unglamorous. I must confess, I have been lucky. I have always, always, dreamt of being a fighter pilot and though I never had the skills (awful in Mathematics !) to join either the Air Force or the Naval Air Arm, I have somehow managed to fly more than a dozen sorties in some of the greatest fighter jets ever built. My friends say I have subverted journalism to live out a dream. Others say I have managed to produce to pretty interesting television documentaries. I think the truth lies somewhere in between.

The first time, I was invited to fly on fighter jets was during the Kargil war. Mirage 2000s no less. The Army, it seems, had been stealing the thunder as far as press coverage was concerned, and the Air Force, quite rightly, felt that it was time to explain the role played by their aircraft in India winning the war. But, like so many things, the Air Force proposal had to do the rounds of the Defence Ministry. Finally, the late Pramod Mahajan, then the Information and Broadcasting Minister, pushed through the file after convincing Defence Minister George Fernandes that this should be considered a priority as well. Pramod insisted a Doordarshan crew must also be accomodated on sorties and, sure enough, a DD cameraman flew to Adampur with us where the Mirages had been forward deployed. Clueless about the size of fighter cockpits, he landed up with a gigantic video camera more appropriate for the cargo hold of an Il-76 ! And so, that was that. We ended up getting what was a world class exclusive - three sorties on Mirage 2000s, the first of which was on July 31, 1999, a few days after the war officially ended, but bang on my birthday. Talk about a birthday gift.

And as it turned out, this wouldn't be the last time I got a ride on a fighter. In fact, in the last 11 years since my Mirage flights, I have flown multiple sorties, often on different variants of the the F/A-18 Hornet, the F-16 Falcon, the JAS-39 Gripen, MiG-35, Mig-29, the Indian Navy Sea Harrier and Sukhoi's prototype of the Su-30 MKI. Many of these sorties featured on my documentary series, the Jet Set which aired a few years ago and other news reports on NDTV 24x7.

Different people have reacted differently to my accounts of these flights. Some Air Force professionals view these as the joyrides of someone who is patently not a pilot and ask `What does he really know ?' Others, though, are curious to learn of my experiences, often about my interactions with the executives and test pilots of some of the world's leading fighter aircraft manufacturers. While I am not a pilot, aviation is a serious interest and so, these experiences are a little bit more than the stories of someone in the backseat of an 80 million dollar roller coster though, admittedly, far less profound than what a fighter pilot would have had to offer.

When executives at SAAB-Gripen phoned me recently, I thought they would be inviting me to a press conference linked to the Indian Air Force's gigantic 12 billion dollar MMRCA tender. All the leading contenders brief the press regularly on developments on the platforms which they have pitched to the IAF. Instead, I was asked, "Vishnu, we were wondering if you would be interested in flying a sortie on the Gripen NG prototype." Straight to the point. Typically Swedish. No unnecessary talk about the Delhi weather. It took a moment for this to sink in. Quite clearly, this would be quite special, different in a sense from what I had done in the past. I was being offered a sortie on the only flying prototype of a state-of -the-art next generation fighter, a valuable asset not just for SAAB-Gripen but a national asset for Sweden. In a few weeks I would be the first and, thus far, the only civilian, to have flown on the jet.

In fact, by the time the visit to Linkoping in Sweden ended, I had been allowed to land the jet twice from the rear cockpit in addition to flying the prototype through a series of high g maneuvers at a safe altitude. I can hear the skeptics saying "Oh, be serious." Its true, I assure you ! Whats more, I was a witness to supercruise, the ability of this fighter to fly beyond the speed of sound without the use of the afterburner.

The pilot in command of my flight, Fredrik Muchler is Gripen's demonstration pilot, someone who clearly loves his job. At the apex of a loop after a 5 g vertical pull-up, Fredrik, in that typical matter-of-fact Swede way of talking tells me, "It is true. They pay me to do this." What I wouldn't do to trade jobs !

Anyway, this wasn't the first time that I had flown on the Gripen. A few years ago, I had flown out of Linkoping, the Gripen development facilitity, in the JAS-39 D but the difference in the two jets was obvious to even me, a novice. With its new GE414G engine, the Gripen strains at the leashes on the runway, edging forward despite the brakes and blasts off more than takes off once the brakes are released. In handling too, the jet is care-free pushing the 9 g threshold quite easily. Fredrik tells me the Gripen NG can easily be touted a 10g fighter, since it can pull those loads without any real difficulty.

Supercruise on this flight took place at about 23,000 feet. Our jet, carrying 2 IRIS-T wingtip mounted air to air missiles accelerated through the sonic barrier. Fredrik quickly came off the heater and air speed stabilised well above Mach 1. Fredrik tells me he can sustain this till fuel runs out at this altitude and can travel faster without burner if we are at a higher altitude. Denying that super-cruise can't be achieved with a warload, Fredrik says they do it all the time with 4 air to air missiles, a pretty standard fit for air superiority operations. He also points out the NG prototype is overweight, and once it loses a few hundred kilos, the supercruise performance of the fighter will appreciably improve.

After a sortie lasting about 45 minutes, in which we also flew in formation with a JAS-39 D which was filmed by camera people on an SK-60 trainer , Fredrik and I turned away for some low altitude runs after which he handed me controls. Throttle and stick response on this fighter is instantaneous and the set-up of the man-machine interface in the cockpit is truly impressive. Though the Raven AESA radar which forms the heart of the NG's weapon system had been removed ahead of this sortie since the NG goes into an extended modification period, I was able to appreciate and understand the symbology on the multi-function displays.

The Left hand MFD had been configured to provide a repeat of the pilot's head up display symbology over a wide-angle video underlay of the skies and terrain around us. SAAB's artificial horizon symbology is quite distinctive and extremely intuitive. The plane you are flying is figuratively placed at the centre of a hemisphere along a dotted line if you are in straight and level flight. Once you pull up, the symbology changes and the dotted line forms a reverse `U' as you progressively climb. On top of the `hemisphere' a large `X' appears atop the pole and if you fly down, the dotted lines form a `U' till you pass the straight dotted line which you allign yourself to if you want to regain level flight. Its tough to explain in words but very easy to understand when you see it.

Soon enough, it was time to land and Fredrik asked me if I was confident enough to land the jet. He had stick and throttle priority up front so there was no real danger. Engaging ILS, we flew towards Linkoping in pretty marginal weather. With no HUD at eye level, I kept my focus squarely on the left hand MFD where a targeting cue linked to the ILS appeared. With gentle inputs on the sensitive control stick, I had to place the velocity vector (essentially the plane) directly over the targeting cue and keep it there. As we lost altitude progressively, and turned into finals, Fredrik engaged autothrottle and, in a little while, lowered the undercarriage prompting a change in the HUD symbology. The targeting cue became a tiny dot now and the runway appeared in the distance, the threshold marked by a small U. Steering inputs needed now were more ****ounced to keep the cue at the centre of the velocity vector. With a few hundred feet to go, the cue disappeared and Fredrik told me to place the velocity vector on the spot I wanted to touch down. He also, repeatedly told me to keep looking down at the MFD, not get distracted by the terrain coming up on all sides ! Now gliding over the runway, I attempted to flare to which Fredrik said `don't flare, just touch down" which I did. Touchdown was at about 140 knots. Fredrik said "mine" and manually engaged brakes, the Gripen coming to a halt in a few hundred metres.

It was as simple as that, an incredible feeling to do the real thing, for someone who spends hours landing jets on Microsoft Flight Simulator X on my home pc. But the Gripen sortie was not over yet. We refuelled in a few minutes without switching off the engine, returned to the runway and blasted off again for another sortie, quite similar to the first one.

There are lot of interesting features of the Gripen NG. For me, the lasting impression after this flight was the simplicity of its operations. For an untrained pilot to be able to land a fighter with such ease clearly indicates just how easy it is to fly the jet, a factor that the Gripen team says could really help out young, inexperienced pilots.

This wasn't the first time that I had seen the evolution of a fighter jet from an earlier variant. I have flown three sorties on different variants of the F-16, a Block 30, Block 50 + and Block 60 AESA equipped bird.

My flight on an F-16 Block 30 was, in a sense, a sign of the changing strategic relationship between india and the United States. I was invited to fly with the US Air Force's Black Widows squadron at the Hill Air Force Base near Salt Lake City in the state of Utah. Way back in 1982-1983, members of the Black Widows squadron had trained pilots of the Pakistan Air Force to operate the jet. Now, after all these years, an Indian journalist was invited to fly the same jet at the same base at a time when the US is pitching a variant of the same fighter to India. How times have changed.

My pilot for the sortie Colby Edwards, call sign Thor, asked me what I wanted to see. Aware of the stunning performance characteristics of early generation F-16s, I told him I would like to turn and burn. We took off at about 240 kilometres per hour, immediately climbing into a Vertical Charlie pushing 7 g, a truly exhilarating ride. In moments, we were above a test range, one of the largest in the United States.

The cockpit of the Block 30 is very basic, mono-chromatic displayes in MFD which are small in comparison to the large, increasingly touch-screen MFDs that one comes across in contemporary fighters. Rear seat controls had been disabled though, so I did none of the flying.

It was time to return home soon enough though - we had clearly been burning a lot of gas with all these tight maneuvers and bursts of acceleration. As we headed back, we flew through some stuning valleys with some outstanding ski slopes.

A few years later, I would have an opportunity to fly on a UAE F-16 Block 60 at the Bangalore air show and if I was asked to describe it in two words, it would have to be "video game." The difference between this jet and the Block 30 fighter I had flown earlier could not have been more stark. This was, essentially, a brand-new jet. Equipped with the APG 80 AESA radar, the Block 60 features sensational sensor fusion something showcased to me on the sortie. There are a lot of things that the Americans have going for them in the MMRCA race and the fact that they have fully operational, integrated AESA radars is one of them.

On this sortie, my pilot set up the right MFD to display a comprehensive tactical picture by interweaving the air to air and air to ground picture, essentially tracking targets both in the air and on the land. The left MFD was slaved to the FLIR system. During the flight, we picked up an F-18 on radar heading towards us on a reciprocal heading. In moments, we were able to track the jet on the FLIR well before it was within visual range. Absolutely incredible and all, fully developed technologies in service with an Air Force.

For all the differences which have traditionally existed between Western and Russian aircraft, there are areas of great commonality. Unlike in the past, where crew comfort and cockpit ergonomics were not really a priority, the new generation MiG-35 offers an extremely modern, fully hands on throttle and stick (HOTAS) cockpit with MFDs of the same quality as the best of the Western fighters.

My MiG 35 sortie at the Bangalore Air show came a week after I had flown a sortie on the MiG-29UB trainer at the Gromov Flight Centre at Zhukovski near Moscow.

About a day or two prior to the show beginning, MiG got in touch with me confirming the possibility of a sortie. I didn't want to look a gift-horse in the mouth particularly since Ratan Tata's upcoming sortie in an F-16 at the Bangalore Air Show had generated enough attention in the media.

At the onset, let me just say that while the MiG 35 sortie was a high, having the opportunity to sit down, eat lunch and have a couple of drinks with the great test pilot Pavel Vlasov (a Hero of the Russian Federation) and Mr. Byntin, the Chief Designer of the MiG-35 was wonderful. In fact, I had had the opportunity to meet Pavel in Moscow as well, also at a lunch shortly after he flew the MiG-29KUB at its media debut. Iincidentally, the actual first flight of the KUB of which I have footage took place two days prior to the media debut so the Russians, no fools, knew the thing flew before they brought in the international media !

Anyway at Yelahanka, my pilot would be Mikhail Belyaev who spoke reasonable English though with a heavy accent. We both realised the importance of keeping our conversation to a minimum ahead and during the flight so that we could get the pre-flight basics right. Later on, I would discover that Belyaev was an absolute delight, supremely confident as a pilot with a sense of humour to match.

Before the flight though, there was the small matter of the flight overalls. I am 6'2 and the Russian flight overalls didnt quite fit so we went to plan b and I pulled out my own overalls which Boeing had given me after an F-18 sortie. As we approached the Fulcrum, a senior Communications person at Boeing (who I have worked with extensively in the past) came up to me a touch irritated. "Vishnu, you'll fly just about anything won't you?" she asked. She had obviously noticed my Boeing flight overalls (which didn't of course say `Boeing' anywhere). I let go a sheepish grin. She already knew the answer.

We were now next to the Fulcrum and I was given my bone dome and a cloth head cover (typically Russian) just before I got into the jet.

The Russian pilots helmet is the real deal ! This one was compatible with the IRST system. It was considerably more heavy than the American/French/British helmets I have worn in the past. It was also, much more comfortable. In some of the American helmets, the sun visor was attached to the outside portion of the helmet. On the Russian ones, it is located inside ... and you need to push a release on either side of your eyes with both your hands to bring it down. It fits perfectly with the oxygen mask and the clarity is perfect. Belyaev later told me, "We take our helmet to American and tell them `this is helmet for fighter plane. Your helmet meant only for small scooter." I must also confess, the Russian flight gloves (black leather) are trendier than the heat resistant and loosely fitting American or European flight gloves I have worn elsewhere !

The MiG 35 cockpit is considerably larger than the F-16 cockpit. The first thing I noticed on being strapped in was the quality of the cockpit. This cockpit was far removed from what one had seen in Russian fighters in the past. There was no clutter in the cockpit and the new, broader canopy on the MiG 35 gives you a roomier feel as compared to the MiG 29 UB I had flown on earlier. There are 3 huge MFDs in front of the pilot and a small one that serves as the HUD repeater. Forward vision on the HUD repeater, clarity and depth perception was outstanding. I feel the unit was far better than similar systems on some of the other fighters.


Prior to the flight, Mikhael asked me what I wanted to do. I was consistent with what I had told the other pilots - `Mikhael, the F-16 pilot took me to 8 g. Can we do the same?' Prompt came the reply - `No problem, we do 8g, Cobra and tail slide. OK?' I could only mumble a muted `da' in reply.

Anyhow, engine startup was like the other jets. I had been briefed on the emergency O2 system and the position of the intercom switch. As we rolled down the taxiway, my focus was on the MFDs in front of me - the INS display on the extreme right, engine parameters in the centre and the artificial horizon, AOA, airspeed indicator and the g meter on the extreme Left. I wanted to us the metric system for my airspeed and altitude and this had been set for me with a button push prior to the flight.

The take off run on the MiG 35 feels like a 747 compared to the F-16. It feels slower, much more refined and the difference between a single engine and two engines is perceptible. Mikhael veered left at low altitude on take off and then went vertical, did a half loop and rolled out into the direction of our heading. We had done about 4.5 g but I felt almost nothing. The oxygen flow in the MiG 35 was outstanding, very easy to inhale, no real pressure on the lungs.

Mikhael then went into a lengthy explanation of the INS system pointing out our heading and some of the symbology on the unit ... He then said `You pilot, Vishnu' and I took control, did a sharp bank to the right which he corrected by telling me to to head in the direction of the indicator on the INS display. A short while and a few loops later, Michael asked if I was interested in seeing a Cobra maneuver. No guesses on what my answer was. There is a button on the Master Caution panel on the front right on the pilot which says "Cobra." That button has to be pushed before the maneuver can be done since the angle of attack limiter has to be overridden. What made the Cobra maneuver all the more enjoyable was the knowledge that this was a non TVC aircraft. Mikhael said `Cobra now' and yanked hard on the stick. The nose pitched right back and then he pushed the nose hard forward as we briefly entered a negative g scenario. Like in the case of the tail slide, the ground rushes at you awfully quick but there is immense power in this jet and we soon level out. At this stage Mikhael demonstrated the stability of the jet by violently moving the stick around its axis with absolutely no impact on the forward motion of the jet.

Over the next several minutes, we pushed some serious g going right up to 8.2 g for which the Russians later gave me a certificate. With fuel running low, we decided to do a touch and go and land immediately afterwards. As we lifted off after touching down, Mikhael decided to show off - plain and simple. He said `Ok Vishnu, now we do military style landing’ so he yanked hard and left, gaining altitude as we flew parallel to the runway in the opposite direction. We pulled into a violent 6 g left bank, lowering undercarriage and levelling out pretty much on top of the runway before making a perfect touchdown albeit at considerable speed ! It was brilliant, the most incredible landing I have experienced, the end to a fantastic ride on the Russian top gun.

My first experience with the F/A-18 was when I personally witnessed, over a period of a week, the end result of Hornet bombing runs on the outskirts of Kabul in 2001. We were camping in a bombed-out cement factory on the outskirts of the Afghan capital in a place called Charikhar. Kabul was still under the control of the Taliban and air attacks targeting the Bagram Airbase had just about begun. The base was a few kilometres away from where we were staying and every evening at about 5 pm, Hornets operating off the deck of the US carriers would come in for high altitude laser guided bomb drops and so every evening, almost on the dot, we would see the outline of F-18s flying very high, tossing bombs, a dust cloud on impact, followed by the sound of the impact.

One of the pilots involved in those early operations was Steve Walborn, callsign `Wimbo,' whom I had the pleasure of flying with on a Hornet quite a few years later. This was from the US Naval Air Station in Lemoore in California, one of the biggest facilities of the US Navy. This base supports hundreds of strike aircraft of the US Navy deployed on aircraft carriers in the Pacific ocean. At any one stage there are more than 100 fighters at this base, many of them F-18 Super Hornets.
My sortie with Wimbo in the Super Hornet was across a test range over the Sierra Nevada mountains in California. Coincidentally, the Hornet I flew was the very same Hornet I had flown on at the Farnborough air show a year earlier. There would be two other Hornets which would formate with us, one of which would refuel us mid-air. But before refuelling, Wimbo showed me a few things which aviation freaks like me dream about - two jets going head to head at a closure rate of a thousand knots before turning hard to engage each other in mock air combat.

Buddy-refuelling the big jet was really interesting. Inching up to the refuelling drogue released off the centre line tank of the refueller Hornet and then engaging the drogue even in a gentle turn was spectacular to watch from the rear seat..

Of all the fighters of this generation I have flown on (Generation 4 plus), the F/18 Hornet is the most battle-tested platform. APG-79 AESA equipped versions of the Super Hornet have been doing duty off American carriers for a few years now often as force multipliers for non-AESA equipped birds. This is a tough as nails, fully evolved jet which sets new US Navy benchmarks for reliability and ease of maintenance.

For me though, the highlight of the sortie turned out to be something utterly unexpected. As our formation headed back towards Lemoore, one of the pilots called out "Raptor, Raptor." I asked Wimbo what "Raptor" meant. He laughed and replied "You heard it right Vish. It means F-22." And then, to my left at about 11 O'Clock, I saw the sinister shape of an F-22 stealth fighter as it did a gentle victory roll and went on its way. Thats right, I got intercepted by a stealth fighter, possibly another first for an Indian civilian wannabe pilot! Nobody in the formation seemed to know what was lurking, certainly not my AESA equipped bird - we had the radar on alright ! Lets hope the Sukhoi T-50 FGFA works out OK for the Indian Air Force ! And if it does, then rest assured, I will be waiting for that phone call from the boffins at Sukhoi if not the Indian Air Force. Lets see if I can continue to ride my luck !

(Vishnu Som has flown with Air Forces around the world, the UN in Congo, the Northern Alliance in Afghanistan and Chief test pilots of several fighter manufacturers. He has catapulted off US Navy carriers and has experienced arrested landings as well. He has survived a missile attack when the IAF Mi-8 he was travelling in North Gujarat was targeted by Pakistani SAMs shortly after the Atlantique episode in 1999 and been winched off the deck of an Indian Navy submarine. He has also flown extensively in the Siachen area onboard Indian Air Force Cheetah helicopters.)

=== End of article by Vishnu Som ===


And to you curious about the ability to land the Gripen without the full fighter pilot training I can say that it only takes about 30 minutes of training to be up and running on the Gripen and perform a start and simple manouvres and then land ... and yes this is without any prior knowledge of flying.


Cheers
//JG

signatory
10-13-2010, 04:52 AM
Thanks JohanGrön :)

A nice thing that the Gripen Demonstrator can prove certain capabilities since the real deal I.E proper NG products such as Gripen IN would be additionally improved. When a fat hacked together twin-stick demonstrator can comfortably fly sustained supercruise with AAMs then there should be no doubt a lighter newly manufactured lower-drag single-seat can do it a bit better.

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Swedish gov presented its budget proposition (http://www.regeringen.se/content/1/c6/15/33/07/d0fd913f.pdf) yesterday. No surprises at all. MS20 is already ordered.. a real nice upgrade. On top of that continued C/D capability developments and also ordering definition phase E/F. They don't really go into details.

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CzAF Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrripen @ NTM

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Cred: Eduard msp

Caprice
10-13-2010, 12:45 PM
Little more about Tiger meet, Found a link to a video with some Gripen coverage over at Ares: (http://www.aviationweek.com/aw/blogs/defense/index.jsp?plckController=Blog&plckBlogPage=BlogViewPost&newspaperUserId=27ec4a53-dcc8-42d0-bd3a-01329aef79a7&plckPostId=Blog%3a27ec4a53-dcc8-42d0-bd3a-01329aef79a7Post%3a6f461843-8986-4127-a2c0-864c6bd2fdca&plckScript=blogScript&plckElementId=blogDest)

Directlink to the video(Don't forget to chose 1080p and full screen if you have the bandwidth.): http://www.youtube.com/defensie#p/u/3/2sNllBLewNs (Edit: Only in Dutch.)

Seems that some is fond of Gripen at the Dutch MOD/Air force or is it the cameraman? :)

(Said before but I say it again; excellent thread this, if you want info about Gripen!)

/C.

signatory
10-14-2010, 09:08 PM
Tiger Meet 2010 - And the winner is...

http://www.natotigers.org/images/website/silverTigerdotpng

SILVER TIGER 2010: 211 Squadron - Czech Republic

The Silver Tiger is awarded to the squadron that has the best overall performance / appearance during a NATO Tiger Meet. It is voted by a secret ballot system by all participating NATO Tiger Squadrons.

BEST FLYING: 338 Skv - Norway
BEST PAINTED JET: 192 Filo - Turkey
BEST TIGER DRESS: 21° Gruppo - Italy
BEST TIGER SKIT: JTS - Austria
TIGER GAMES: 221 Squadron - Czech Republic

OPERATIONS: 644 out of the planned 715 missions have been flown in 2 weeks.

http://img100.imageshack.us/img100/165/gripentigermeet2010fotodotjpg
Photo cred: Cyril Amboise, French Air Force (http://www.defense.gouv.fr/air/actus-air/les-tigres-sortent-leurs-griffes-aux-pays-bas)

natotigers.org (http://www.natotigers.org/tigernews/index.php?newsID=115)

Neat. :)

signatory
10-17-2010, 02:37 PM
Supersonic flight is 'lot of fun'

Oct 17, 2010 12:00 AM | By TENESHIA NAIDOO

A Durban man who ditched a career in journalism to join the SA Air Force is revelling in the experience of flying the country's latest supersonic aircraft.

Navigator Lieutenant Koobendra Chetty, 27, enjoyed his first flight in a Gripen fighter aircraft last week at Makhado Air Force Base in Limpopo, along with three other SAAF members trained to operate the aircraft.

[...]

"The Gripen is an awesome aircraft. It is quick and phenomenal regarding the way it turns and how it performs in air combat.

"The systems that it has on it - with regards to navigation, radar and weapons - are first-class. It is very advanced."

[...]

Times Live (http://www.timeslive.co.za/sundaytimes/article710190.ece/Supersonic-flight-is-lot-of-fun)

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SAAB PR:

Gripen CZ211 best squadron at NATO Tiger Meet

http://www.saabgroup.com/Global/Documents%20and%20Images/About%20Saab/Newsroom/Thumbs/tigermeet_headdotjpg
Image: 211 tactical squadron happy after receiving the Silver Tiger Award. Photo:U.Metternich/Luftwaffe

Tomorrow, Oct 18 at 07.40 am the Czech TV channel CT24 will broadcast a live interview with The Commander of 211th Tactical Squadron Čáslav Air Force Base, Major Jaroslav Mika regarding the Silver Tiger Award.

See the interview here (http://www.ct24.cz/)(from Oct 18)

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Croatia

On the issue of industrial offset investments in part tagged to a possible Gripen deal 45 Swedish corporations have contacts with the Croatian side.

Croatia literally missed the boat on a previous Swedish state supported offer that included the transfer of two mothballed Swedish navy multipurpose vessels as part of a deal. These corvettes are now being re-inducted in the Swedish navy under new classification.

The latest publically known offer (May-2010) is far smaller in size and value and only includes 8 x Gripens C/D, training & initial spares for €220m.

link (http://www.slobodnadalmacija.hr/Hrvatska/tabid/66/articleType/ArticleView/articleId/118520/Default.aspx)

link (http://www.jutarnji.hr/stari-f-16-besplatno--tristo-milijuna-dolara-za-obuku-i-dijelove/776092/)

jochen
10-18-2010, 04:21 PM
Supersonic flight is 'lot of fun'

Oct 17, 2010 12:00 AM | By TENESHIA NAIDOO

A Durban man who ditched a career in journalism to join the SA Air Force is revelling in the experience of flying the country's latest supersonic aircraft.

Navigator Lieutenant Koobendra Chetty, 27, enjoyed his first flight in a Gripen fighter aircraft last week at Makhado Air Force Base in Limpopo, along with three other SAAF members trained to operate the aircraft.

[...]

"The Gripen is an awesome aircraft. It is quick and phenomenal regarding the way it turns and how it performs in air combat.

"The systems that it has on it - with regards to navigation, radar and weapons - are first-class. It is very advanced."

[...]

Times Live (http://www.timeslive.co.za/sundaytimes/article710190.ece/Supersonic-flight-is-lot-of-fun)

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SAAB PR:

Gripen CZ211 best squadron at NATO Tiger Meet

http://www.saabgroup.com/Global/Documents%20and%20Images/About%20Saab/Newsroom/Thumbs/tigermeet_headdotjpg
Image: 211 tactical squadron happy after receiving the Silver Tiger Award. Photo:U.Metternich/Luftwaffe

Tomorrow, Oct 18 at 07.40 am the Czech TV channel CT24 will broadcast a live interview with The Commander of 211th Tactical Squadron Čáslav Air Force Base, Major Jaroslav Mika regarding the Silver Tiger Award.

See the interview here (http://www.ct24.cz/)(from Oct 18)

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Croatia

On the issue of industrial offset investments in part tagged to a possible Gripen deal 45 Swedish corporations have contacts with the Croatian side.

Croatia literally missed the boat on a previous Swedish state supported offer that included the transfer of two mothballed Swedish navy multipurpose vessels as part of a deal. These corvettes are now being re-inducted in the Swedish navy under new classification.

The latest publically known offer (May-2010) is far smaller in size and value and only includes 8 x Gripens C/D, training & initial spares for €220m.

link (http://www.slobodnadalmacija.hr/Hrvatska/tabid/66/articleType/ArticleView/articleId/118520/Default.aspx)

link (http://www.jutarnji.hr/stari-f-16-besplatno--tristo-milijuna-dolara-za-obuku-i-dijelove/776092/)


Direct link to the interview: here (http://www.ceskatelevize.cz/ivysilani/210411010101018-studio-6/obsah/129337-profil/)

energo
10-19-2010, 03:17 PM
493rd Fighter Squadron wraps up major exercise

by Senior Airman David Dobrydney
48th Fighter Wing Public Affairs

10/16/2010 - ROYAL AIR FORCE LAKENHEATH, England -- The 493rd Fighter Squadron recently participated in the largest airborne exercise in the United Kingdom.

Operation Joint Warrior brought together units from the U.S. and Swedish air forces as well as aircraft and surface vehicles from the British Royal air force, army and navy.

The goal of the exercise was to practice coordination between various armed forces against a common foe, said Capt. James Farrow, 493rd FS flight commander and project officer for the exercise.

Each mission for the two-week exercise began with an air tasking order listing the assets required, where they were required and the targets to be dealt with. The participating forces then had 24 hours to coordinate their assets and come up with a plan for destroying the targets.

"The fact that there's no one home station for this exercise makes it very difficult to coordinate because we only have one day," said Captain Farrow. "There's dozens of aircraft airborne, and we have to come up with an overall game plan to kill these targets without getting killed ourselves; all simulated of course."

During the missions, the 493rd FS pilots acted as escorts, going in ahead of the main force to clear an area of simulated hostile forces so the strikers, usually RAF Tornados, could go in to simulate bombing the targets.

The Swedish air force portrayed the hostile forces. Their Gripen fighters provided another dimension to the training, as most of the American pilots had not flown against them before.

"It's really nice to get some dissimilar aircraft training instead of just flying against each other" said Captain Farrow.

While Captain Farrow said coordinating multiple assets can be a challenge, he added that's what makes the training realistic.

"The biggest thing to take away from this is mission planning," he said. "In case we have to go to war in a similar environment ... you wouldn't have all the aircraft at one base and we'd have to coordinate the same way."


LINK (http://www.lakenheath.af.mil/news/story.asp?id=123226732)


B. Bolsøy
Oslo

signatory
10-20-2010, 10:22 AM
Gripen fire Meteor for Swedish Integration Programme

FMV recently conducted a so-called Safe-Separation firing from Gripen with the Meteor missile at the Vidsel test range.

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Gripen equipped with the Meteor missile taking off from Vidsel for a test firing. Image: Kristofer Sjöström, FMV Vidsel Test Range

2010-10-20 |

It was the first live-firing of the Swedish Integration programme. Gripen has also been the launch platform from the start of the development of the Meteor missile.

The purpose of this test was to verify the model on separation of the missile from the aircraft. The impact from the missile exhaust plume on the aircraft engine was also studied. As an important part of the integration work the data-link was verified as well.

An initial evaluation showed that the missile separated from the inboard pylon station in a normal manner and the data link between the missile and the aircraft was activated. Temperature data from the aircraft engine was also monitored. The missiles flight was terminated as planned at a predetermined position.
“Saab together with FMV Test & Evaluation Department accomplished the campaign very successfully. Saab evaluates and analyzes the data gathered from the test firing together with the supplier," said Michael Östergren, Project Manager at FMV.

With this firing the first of two phases in the Swedish integration is now completed. The first phase was designed to support the development of the missile while the next phase is designed to fully integrate the missile on Gripen. The final integration with Gripen for the Swedish Air Force has recently begun and is expected to be finalized during 2013.

http://www.gripen.com/NR/rdonlyres/76DD3B8B-A1B4-41E5-AD6C-0D8D5E0CCB47/11015/Meteor4562_360dotjpg
The Meteor missile is currently being integrated on the Swedish Air Force Gripen. Image: Kristofer Sjöström, FMV Vidsel Test Range

link (http://www.gripen.com/en/MediaRelations/News/2010/gripen_fire_meteor_for_swedish_integration_programme.htm)
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“Our training program and our skills, in conjunction with Gripen has allowed us to win this important award. The reason why Gripen was a star of Tiger Meet is its ability to solve the tasks at the longest possible distance – without a direct dogfight with the enemy” said the Commander of 211th Tactical Squadron at Čáslav Air Force Base, Major Jaroslav Míka in Czech Television.

link (http://www.gripen.com/en/MediaRelations/News/2010/Czech_Gripen_squadron_winners_at_NATO_Tiger_Meet.htm)

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Saab aerospace profits up by 70%

Q3 results.

link (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-11581761)

signatory
10-21-2010, 02:56 PM
Swedish Support Group: Thailand

Early November the 12-man group will begin their move to Thailand for two years of service assisting the RTAF on Gripen/Saab340/Erieye. Much of the support equipment has already been shipped and RTAF has new hangars for them to work in.

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http://img169.imageshack.us/img169/499/imagevaulthandlerdotjpg

Lars Stridh pictured with Thai students and future co-workers beat out over 80 other applicants for this Thai deployment. No wonder he is all smiles.

Article (http://www.forsvarsmakten.se/sv/Forband-och-formagor/Skolor/Forsvarsmaktens-tekniska-skola-FMTS/Nyheter/For-Sverige-i-Thailand/)

English google translate (http://translate.google.se/translate?js=n&prev=_t&hl=sv&ie=UTF-8&layout=2&eotf=1&sl=sv&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.forsvarsmakten.se%2Fsv%2FForband-och-formagor%2FSkolor%2FForsvarsmaktens-tekniska-skola-FMTS%2FNyheter%2FFor-Sverige-i-Thailand%2F)

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First Gripen NG Production Drawing released in Brazil

21 October 2010, in News

Yesterday, Akaer released to Saab the first 3D model and production drawing of the Gripen NG in Sao Jose de Campos.

http://www.saabgroup.com/Global/Documents%20and%20Images/About%20Saab/Newsroom/News/akaer_1dotjpg

Saab:Entire Press Release (http://www.saabgroup.com/About-Saab/Newsroom/Press-releases--News/First-Gripen-NG-Production-Drawing-released-in-Brazil/)

Some pics here. (http://www.aereo.jor.br/2010/10/20/entregue-primeiro-desenho-de-producao-do-gripen-ng-feito-no-brasil/)

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FMV Article: The first Meteor missile live-firing for the Swedish Integration Program

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FMV (http://www.fmv.se/WmTemplates/page.aspx?id=5347)

signatory
10-22-2010, 09:21 PM
Bit more from the press conf in Brazil: By Airpower (http://www.aereo.jor.br/). I used google-translate on this so be careful.

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Gripen 'NG' pre-production series 4 aircraft, first parts production March/April 2011. First flights of these 2012-2013.

2 for Flight Testing
1 for fatigue tests
1 for static tests

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Also the Swedish military seems happy with what they have learned from the NG Demonstrator and on what way to move forward. SwAF Chief of Staff made another confident note this week on having good info for a decision. It is to provide the government with its suggestions on March 31.

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The sun and the skies and the mountains... of South Africa.

http://img543.imageshack.us/img543/174/5100524562aefbc12090bdotjpg
Photo: Gripen D, AAD 2010. By: Rudolf Henning

Suddenly the camo kind of makes sense.

Skyman
10-23-2010, 01:06 AM
Welcome to Thailand. Congratulation for a paid two years vocation on the beach. :D

signatory
10-28-2010, 01:39 AM
Four new Czech Gripen pilots

Over a period of three months, four pilots from the Czech Air Force have been in Sweden in order to train as Gripen pilots. They also spent two days visiting Saab to see where Gripen is produced.

2010-10-26 |

At Saab, they were given a presentation about the company and had the opportunity to visit the simulator, the final assembly and the composite workshop. The prospective Gripen pilots were happy to be able to visit Saab.

"It was fascinating to get to see the place and the hangars where Gripen is produced, said Martin Paček”, one of the pilots.

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Image: The pilots visited the Gripen final assembly during their visit at Saab in Linköping. Photo: Per Kustvik.

Extremely satisfied

The training has taken place at F 7 Såtenäs, which has responsibility for the training of Czech, Hungarian and Thai pilots. The training is carried out at the Gripen centre training facility, a facility that contains all the facilities needed to effectively train Gripen pilots.

The pilots have previously flown the L-159 Alca at Čáslav squadron in the Czech Republic and they are extremely satisfied with the training that is developing them into Gripen pilots. Much of the training is spent in the simulators at the Gripen centre, but theory also plays a major part in the training.

Martin and his friends have now returned to the Czech Republic to commence tactical training at Čáslav Air Force Base. It was four expectant Gripen admirers that returned.

"We are delighted to be operating the Gripen system in the Czech Republic, and if it were up to us to decide, we would want to operate Gripen in the Czech Republic today, tomorrow and in the future," said all four in agreement.


20 Gripen pilots
The Czech Gripen aircraft are based at Čáslav Air Force Base, in the heart of the Czech countryside. At the base, there is one division flying Gripen and another operating the L-159. The Czech Republic has four Air Force Bases in total and at the other three bases there are helicopters and transport aircraft. There are around 20 Gripen pilots at present in the Czech Republic.

gripen.com (http://www.gripen.com/en/MediaRelations/News/2010/Four_new_Czech_Gripen_pilots.htm)

signatory
10-28-2010, 11:34 PM
Gripen support grows

On demand support services for the South African Air Force's Gripen advanced light fighter aircraft stands at R29 859 175.76 after 10 months. The latest contract, for R6 175 342.54 was awarded September 22 as an extension of ELGS/2008/333.

[...]

Some 50% of the maintenance for the Gripen is done at AFB Makhado and about 15% by the local industry. Regarding the Hawk, some 65% of the maintenance is done by the air force at AFB Makhado, 20% is done by local industry, leaving only 15% to be done overseas. Technology transfer on both aircraft was significant, Engineering News added.

Technology transfer for the Gripen included the radar, the fly-by-wire system and the full authority digital engine control system. "We can operate both these aircraft with our own ground crews and technicians very well," stated Bayne.

link (http://www.defenceweb.co.za/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=10212:gripen-support-grows&catid=35:Aerospace&Itemid=107)

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South Africa: Sisulu insists Gripens will be kept flying

Defence Minister Lindiwe Sisulu has promised that despite there being no new money for defence, budget cuts and spending shifts will be made to keep the defence force “fully functional” and keep the Gripen jet fighters flying.

link (http://www.businessday.co.za/articles/Content.aspx?id=124939)

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Croatia, Slovenia to pursue joint fighter deal

link (http://www.flightglobal.com/articles/2010/10/27/348996/croatia-slovenia-to-pursue-joint-fighter-deal.html)

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SwAF @ Royal Air Force Base Lossiemouth (c) "lossie15"
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SwAF @ Royal Air Force Base Lossiemouth (c) "lossie15"

signatory
10-30-2010, 04:39 AM
Bulgaria to Spend BGN 1 B on Fighter Jets in 2012
Defense | October 29, 2010, Friday

Bulgaria's Defense Ministry will start its BGN 1 B tender for the purchase of fighter jets for the Air Force, Minister Anyu Angelov has announced.

Over the past few months Angelov gradually revealed that the Bulgarian Defense Ministry must purchase new fighter jets to replace the outdated MiG-21s, while modernizing its MiG-29s.

No amount of money the Bulgarian government plans to pay for the deal had been revealed so far, and the BGN 1 B figure mentioned by Angelov probably should not be regarded as precise. It is also unclear how many planes Bulgaria wants to purchase.

Bulgarian Defense Minister Anyu Angelov has said the Cabinet will most likely select from among F-16, Eurofighter Typhoon, or Gripen when it decides to purchase its new multipurpose fighter jets.

Gen. Angelov has made it clear that few other options will be considered outside the American F-16, the German-UK-Italian-Spanish Eurofighter Typhoon, and the Swedish Gripen.

The tender for the procurement of the new fighter jets for the Bulgarian Air Force will be announced at the beginning of 2011. The new plane will be selected by the middle of 2012, and the delivery should start in 2015.

Sweden's Saab has recently been pro-active with respect to offering its Gripen fighters to the Bulgarian government, apparently in an attempt to balance the strong position that the United States and the major Western European powers have in Bulgaria.

link (http://www.novinite.com/view_news.php?id=121637)

Flashback:

24 June 2010, in News

During a recent official visit to the Czech Republic, the Commander of the Bulgarian Air Force Major-General Konstantin Popov flew the multirole Gripen fighter.

source (http://www.saabgroup.com/About-Saab/Newsroom/Press-releases--News/2010---6/Commander-of-the-Bulgarian-Air-Force-flies-Gripen/)
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Android app: Gripen mission?

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Saab is to study the usability of leg-mounted touchscreen PDA's running Android for information that is now carried in paper form on pilot's legs.

Swedish citizens who know how to program for Android OS can still apply for this work.

link (http://saab.easycruit.com/vacancy/473313/41236?iso=gb)

signatory
11-03-2010, 10:16 AM
Baltic Air Policing 2012

Czech Chamber of Deputies approved foreign missions after the Senate had already given the ok. Included is a return to the Baltics for the Czech Gripens.

September-December 2012.

EN link (http://www.ceskenoviny.cz/news/zpravy/mps-approve-extension-of-czech-military-contingent-in-afghanistan/551288)
CZ link (http://www.ceskenoviny.cz/zpravy/snemovna-schvalila-rozsireni-kontingentu-v-afghanistanu/551234)

Good Read: LK Aviation Cosmonautics special magazine (http://www.saabgroup.com/Global/Documents%20and%20Images/Air/Gripen/Gripen%20for%20Czech%20Republic/LK_Aviation_Cosmonautics_2009-9_ENG.pdf) on the 2009 deployment.

A snapshot into the magazine:

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Russian electronic intelligence-gathering (Elint) Ilyushin Il-20M registered as Il-18 and with its transponder turned off.

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Il-18RT radio and electronic reconnaissance aircraft flying on civilian registration RA-75528. Note the open starboard undercarriage door.


An interesting fact is that for two sorties by Russian reconnaissance Il-20Ms the Swedish fighters were also activated, one from Ronneby and one from Såtenäs, so it happened that four Gripens at once converged to watch a single Ilyushin. In one case Czech pilots took over their quarry from Finnish pilots flying their own F-18C Hornet fighters.

Thanks also to this quite high number of readiness sorties to monitor Russian military aircraft, the participation of the Czech Air Force in the “Baltic Air Policing 2009” mission got an extraordinarily positive assessment. The Czech soldiers had clearly shown to the population of the three Baltic countries that collective defence is defi nitely the base of the North Atlantic Alliance.

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A statement from Exercise Joint Warrior:


The Swedish Gripens’ post-attack mission report contains the understatement worthy of a WW2 RAF fighter pilot that they have caused “untidiness and disturbance” aboard their target ship.

RAF 7644sqn blog (http://7644sqn.blogspot.com/2010/10/exercise-joint-warrior-diary-days_26.html#more)

p-)

Henke556
11-03-2010, 06:39 PM
If i remember correctly the helmet mounted sight was ordered for the Swedish Gripens to be integrated in Edition 19 together with Rb98/Iris-T. But what has happened since? I remember seeing it on the aircrafts being tested in Switzerland, but I have not seen any pics(or heard anything about them) of it in service with our combat squadrons..

Maybe Signatory can shed some light on this?

signatory
11-03-2010, 10:52 PM
If i remember correctly the helmet mounted sight was ordered for the Swedish Gripens to be integrated in Edition 19 together with Rb98/Iris-T. But what has happened since? I remember seeing it on the aircrafts being tested in Switzerland, but I have not seen any pics(or heard anything about them) of it in service with our combat squadrons..

Maybe Signatory can shed some light on this?

No real news on this. AFAIK the FMV people is working on a package to be handed over to the air force which of course is sensitive work since we dont need a situation where operative pilots has to work out bugs left in the system. IRIS-T integration included firings with the HMD. Yeap it's supposed to be fielded on combat divisions with MS19.. work on MS19 should be complete at the end of 2011.

Thanakorn
11-04-2010, 08:48 AM
Excellent! Thank you very much.

Breerman
11-06-2010, 09:29 AM
No real news on this. AFAIK the FMV people is working on a package to be handed over to the air force which of course is sensitive work since we dont need a situation where operative pilots has to work out bugs left in the system. IRIS-T integration included firings with the HMD. Yeap it's supposed to be fielded on combat divisions with MS19.. work on MS19 should be complete at the end of 2011.
Is this the same that has already been exported to the South African Air Force?

signatory
11-06-2010, 12:19 PM
Is this the same that has already been exported to the South African Air Force?

Yeah not counting minor variations and it's born out of a South African design in the first place so this is really a SA, UK, Swedish product and everyone exports something to eachother.

Gripen's Cobra, EF's HMSS (Guardian) and once proposed Rafale's Gerfaut all came out of the Denel Archer helmet design basically thanks to the clever helmet tracking system. Each helmet adjusted for specific needs.

I know one nut to crack has been how to make sure neck injuries won't become a factor over time for operational pilots. Test pilots are made of iron so they don't care as much...

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Photo: Royal visit to F21 Wing this week.

One of the perks of marrying into royalty...

http://img560.imageshack.us/img560/7244/victoriajasdotjpg
With wheels perfectly on red lines..

Is that you can finally get up close to a Gripen. Our new Prince Daniel is showing all of his emotions at once here next to the more experienced Crown Princess Victoria.

katjing
11-06-2010, 04:09 PM
One of the perks of marrying into royalty...


Is that you can finally get up close to a Gripen. Our new Prince Daniel is showing all of his emotions at once here next to the more experienced Crown Princess Victoria.
It doesn't seem all that difficult to get close to one if you really want to. All I had to do was know a guy who knew a guy. At first I didn't dare to touch it because I know how easy it is to dent small civilian aircraft, them practically being built of aluminum foil, but after I did I realized you can't break it. It's funny how my strongest memories are of the feel of the airframe and the ejection seat, both of which were rock-hard.

signatory
11-06-2010, 06:11 PM
It doesn't seem all that difficult to get close to one if you really want to. All I had to do was know a guy who knew a guy. At first I didn't dare to touch it because I know how easy it is to dent small civilian aircraft, them practically being built of aluminum foil, but after I did I realized you can't break it. It's funny how my strongest memories are of the feel of the airframe and the ejection seat, both of which were rock-hard.

Well yeah or just go to a air show... not every time, but often, they allow people to pet the aircraft and get inside. Daniel otoh had never been up close to one, something Victoria made fun of..

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SwAF exercises in Norway

8 jets at Ørland.

link (http://www.fosna-folket.no/incoming/article1261882.ece#)

JohanGrön
11-07-2010, 03:21 PM
Air Commodore Jasjit Singh, director for Centre for Air Power Studies (CAPS), wrote an article in the Indian magazine Vayu Aerospace & Defence Review (http://www.vayuaerospace.in/) about the central factor in selecting the M-MRCA.

Link to PDF (http://www.vayuaerospace.in/images1/MMRCA-Central_factor.pdf)
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The cost and performance of a combat aircraft broadly depends upon its size and weight and what avionics and weapons it carries. This parameter would virtually rule out the Boeing Super Hornet (an excellent aircraft in its class) and the MiG-35 (for another reason) but both not too far from the Su-30 in size or origin. It would neither be prudent nor affordable to maintain nearly 80% of the combat force consisting of just heavy multi-role aircraft from a single source for the coming decades since the world situation would no doubt have undergone major changes during this period. At around 24,000 kg maximum weight, the French Rafale and the European Eurofighter Typhoon also come closer to the upper end of a mediumcombat aircraft. They offer great advantage in the quantum of fuel and weapon load carried, but it is only actual operation and detailed cost calculations that can tell us of their desirability in our inventory. This leaves us with two types with obvious advantages of being clearly in the category of ‘Medium’ multi-role combat aircraft that have been offered in the RFP: the US Lockheed’s F-16IN Super Viper and the Swedish Saab Gripen NG/IN, both configured specially to meet Indian requirements (hence the ‘IN’ in their nomenclature).
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However, the choice that comes closest to the ‘medium’ multi-role aircraft that the IAF has been seeking since a decade ago (the Mirage 2000 type) is the Swedish Gripen which has maximum and empty weights at around 17,000 kg and 7,000 kg respectively, almost equal to that of the Mirage 2000. Since the Mirage 2000 is not in the running anymore, this makes it necessary to focus on the aircraft type closest to the medium combat aircraft, that is, the Swedish Gripen and Lockheed-Martin F-16, with the EADS Eurofighter Typhoon included at the higher end. Gripen’s manufacturers could also offer some aircraft from Swedish Air Force reserves as an interim. However much would depend upon what is carried by the aircraft in terms of avionics and weapons apart from its flying performance that meets our needs.
But there is a larger issue that should receive serious attention: this refers to the other matter we set out to deal with, that is the impact of acquisitions from abroad on our aircraft industry in the future. It is vital that the next fighter deal must go well beyond simple purchase and even local manufacture of the fighter and its major systems. Even the licence manufacture option leaves the country dependent on external sources of supply. We were lulled in the past into the belief that ‘transfer of technology’ was taking place while the reality that it was ‘production technology’ that was actually transferred and not the essential design technology and data. This is why we have had to go back to Moscow to upgrade even the comparatively less sophisticated aircraft like the MiG-21. We now have the Su-30 being manufactured under license though we don’t know how much design data is being transferred to HAL. This is probably the reason for Russian discomfort over inclusion of the offsets clause from new purchases from them.
Large investments in defence modernisation with high-technology weapons, particularly the acquisition of new fighters must be leveraged to energise our defence (especially aerospace) industry once it is clear that they fit into our doctrine and strategy in the larger context of what quality and quantity of aerospace forces are required for the next several decades. This should aim to serve two key purposes: build interdependence through horizontal and vertical partnerships and, secondly, empower India’s industry through capacity building with acquisition of modern aerospace technology. Both these principles are crucial to strengthening self-reliance through enhancing mutual dependence with countries and their industries that are willing to do so. These are also important for sustaining our broader techno-economic growth rates. But these requirements can be met only through process of acquisition and horizontal diffusion of technology beyond our present vertically organised hierarchical aircraft design and development model remotely, but firmly, managed from South Block. Global trends in aerospace industry on one side and India’s growing technological and economic capabilities on the other, point towards seeking mutual advantages in pursuing the horizontal technology diffusion route. This is where the issue of offsets assumes great importance.
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There is also an article in Vayu Aerospace & Defence Review about the "competing" MMRCA air-to-air missiles. The article does not do any ranking it only describes the alternatives (including AMRAAM, Meteor, IRIS-T, Sidewinder, Mica, Python and Derby).

M-MRCA: the contending missiles (http://www.vayuaerospace.in/images1/M-MRCA-The_contending_missiles.pdf) (link to PDF)

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JohanGrön
11-08-2010, 10:52 AM
"Siren" - The First Female Gripen Fighter Pilot

http://www.timeslive.co.za/multimedia/dynamic/01145/701786_632569_1145494bdotjpg

Maj. Catherine 'Siren' Labuschagne and her three course companions Lieutenant Colonel. Gys 'Samurai' van der Walt, Maj. Lance 'Lancelot' Mathebula and 2lt. Kevin 'Saffron' Chetty is the first locally produced SAAF Gripen fighter pilots.

On Thursday three of the four flew solo for the first time.

http://img192.imageshack.us/img192/8383/e4a4312c54ec4dd5a54703edotjpg

http://img815.imageshack.us/img815/9786/62271c055ef74d469eb7007dotjpg

Cheers...

http://img824.imageshack.us/img824/374/5683c9191edf4b9cb4bbff0dotjpg

Make it official!

http://img843.imageshack.us/img843/4686/b45c07b8017046e5b14d6addotjpg

Times (http://www.timeslive.co.za/local/article695648.ece/A-world-first-for-SAs-woman-Gripen-pilot)


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Here is a South African television show with Siren, Saffron, Samurai and Lancelot
Carte Blanche - Major pilot (http://beta.mnet.co.za/carteblanche/Article.aspx?Id=4183&ShowId=1) (two parts 5.30+5.06)

Check out the Gripen dome simulator and the high G-pressure training simulator!

signatory
11-08-2010, 11:44 AM
Update: Thailand

Program Peace Suvarnabhumi aka Thai Air Defence Solution Phase 1 is in high gear with the next major step being the deliveries of two Saab 340 aircraft including one AEW and six Gripen 39C/D in the next few months. Next month the AEW and early 2011 the first Gripens. By September 2011 the RTAF plan to have all six Gripens operational out of Wing 7 Surat Thani.

Also included is a command and control centre with a Thai national datalink that is in its final stage of development at Saab.

RTAF also released photos of the initial signing ceremony for Peace Suvarnabhumi II aka Phase 2 which includes another AEW and 6 more Gripens. As this option is exercised the next option aka Phase 3 becomes active which is currently discussions around 12 more Gripens. Saab eyes additional sales beyond these for a total Gripen fleet around 30-40 jets over time.

http://img638.imageshack.us/img638/6928/thai10wdotjpg
http://img838.imageshack.us/img838/7861/thai11gdotjpg
http://img143.imageshack.us/img143/8430/thai12dotjpg

source (http://gripen.rtaf.mi.th/)

http://i48.*******.com/282ndskdotjpg

JohanGrön
11-09-2010, 07:37 AM
AviationWeek.com (http://www.aviationweek.com/aw/generic/story_generic.jsp?channel=defense&id=news/asd/2010/11/08/04.xml&headline=Qatar%20Targets%202012%20Fighter%20Decision)



Qatar Targets 2012 Fighter Decision

Nov 8, 2010
By Robert Wall

LONDON - The competition to supply a new fighter to the Qatar Emiri Air Force (QEAF) is now formally underway.

Evaluation of program candidates has begun, the service’s commander, Brig. Gen. Mubarak Bin Mohammed Al-Khayarin, tells the Shephard Air Power Middle East conference here. The goal is to make a type selection before the end of 2012.

The size of the program is still under discussion, with 24-36 fighters likely to be acquired. The aircraft would replace Dassault Mirage 2000-5s.

The service is evaluating a broad spectrum of aircraft, including the Lockheed Martin F-35 Joint Strike Fighter, Boeing F/A-18E/F Super Hornet and F-15, Eurofighter Typhoon and Dassault Rafale, says Al-Khayarin. Saab officials note they also have entered the competition.

Qatar’s is only one of several military aircraft contests in the region. The United Arab Emirates’ effort to buy a new fighter appears open again, after an apparent impasse between front-runner Dassault and the government following prolonged negotiations. The UAE has signaled interest in the F/A-18E/F, with European officials also believing the type selection is again in play.

Likewise, Oman, Kuwait and Bahrain remain potential buyers of new aircraft.
Meanwhile, discussions continue between the U.K. and Saudi Arabia regarding a follow-on purchase of Typhoons on top of the 72 already on order.

signatory
11-09-2010, 02:56 PM
Brazil's industry is still hoping for Gripen.



Valor (http://www.valoronline.com.br/impresso/akaer/46814/333851/fiesp-aposta-que-lula-optara-por-caca-sueco)- 09.11.2010

Fiesp bet that Lula will opt for Swedish fighter

"We are convinced that the best proposal for transfer of technology is the Gripen, we agree with FAB" Representatives of the industries of the Brazilian aeorespacial believe the decision of President Luiz Inacio Lula da Silva, on the choice of new fighter aircraft of the Air Force (FAB) will be favorable to the Swedish Gripen.

"The Brazilian industry is convinced that the best aircraft and the best proposal for transfer of technology is the Gripen. Our vision is extremely pragmatic and coincided with the Brazilian Air Force," said Jairo Candido, director of the Department of Industry Defense (Comdefesa), the Federation of Industries of São Paulo (FIESP).

According to Candide, if the domestic industry that will host the technology to be transferred by the new fighters, it makes sense that her opinion is not taken into account. "President Lula and President-Elect, Rousseff, profound knowledge of the industry's position on the issue of Brazilian fighters and were very knowledgeable about the impact of this choice on the future development of the sector," he said.

Besides aerospace industry and FAB, the Swedish fighter also has the preference of the ABC Metalworkers Union, the National Confederation of Metalworkers (CNM-CUT) and the Mayor of São Bernardo do Campo (SP), Luiz Marinho, who signed in April this year, a statement in support of the union movement to the purchase of Swedish fighters by government. The statement was delivered to President Lula in order to strengthen the lobby for the Swedish company Saab, which makes the Gripen.



source (http://www.zemoleza.com.br/noticia/1654136-fiesp-aposta-que-lula-optara-por-caca-sueco.html)

Swingrole
11-10-2010, 01:49 PM
In accordance to the article above:



Lula turns in favor of Gripen




Published in the Swedish magazine Ny Teknik 10 nov 2010

The Brazilian president Lula da Silva will recommend purchase of Gripen instead of Rafale. That's the hottest tip in Brazilian industry at the moment according to the main economical Brazilian newspaper Valor Economica.

The reason why Lula has changed his mind is supposed to be because France did not support the Brazilian and Turkey's draft settlement in the Iranian nuclear fuel issue earlier this spring and that Lula feels betrayed by his old "ally in arms" so to speak.

In connection with the big air force manoeuvre on the 19 of november, where a number of Latin American countries are participating, Lula expects to announce his decision about the winner in the competition.


Source (in Swedish only): http://www.nyteknik.se/nyheter/fordon_motor/flygplan/article2505489.ece

PS We will see what happens, only time will show. I'll believe it when it's on paper...

jokuvaan
11-10-2010, 02:46 PM
http://www.tradingmarkets.com/news/stock-alert/ba_saabf_brazil-likely-to-chose-dassault-s-rafale-over-saab-s-gripen-media-says-1290774.html funny how according to very same Valor Economica its exactly other way around. Well time will show.

signatory
11-10-2010, 05:49 PM
Well. That nyteknik.se article is a poor Swedish interpretation (as usual) of the Valor article I posted above through google-translate. "Fiesp bet that Lula will opt for Swedish fighter". That article is a industry reaction to the latest Valor rumor that Lula will pick Rafale which is from the one jokuvaan posted (English interpretation).

It's a bet. (Or an attempt to change the politican position... )

What seems to be happening right now is that Team Lula is trying to score a improved deal from France.

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Nice RIAT photo from Nick to brighten up this thread.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v681/motf/2010/RIAT10/Fjet/Gripen/10-07-18RIAT4592dotjpg

Swingrole
11-12-2010, 06:38 PM
Well. That nyteknik.se article is a poor Swedish interpretation (as usual) of the Valor article I posted above through google-translate.


Funny though is that the Swedish Dagens Industri gives more or less the same version...

http://di.se/Artiklar/2010/11/11/219913/SAAB-LULA-SKA-HA-ANDRAT-UPPFATTNING-FOREDRAR-GRIPEN---MEDIA/

Even SAAB's stock-exchange rate went up by 6.4% at the highes, also according to Dagens Industri.

http://di.se/Artiklar/2010/11/11/220016/Brasilien-rykten-lyfter-Saab/

signatory
11-12-2010, 08:22 PM
Funny though is that the Swedish Dagens Industri gives more or less the same version...

Yes but not really funny though is it. That is at worst unwarranted stock price manipulation due to poor journalism. It pis-es me off. NyTeknik, Di and DN doesn't have reporters on site so they just follow the first poorly translated version out there and trust that its accurate, often one from a unsourced wire service. And change headlines etc to their likings. Food for daytraders.

One headline even said that that the nation of Brazil had changed its opinion but that was not at all in line with the original article (posted here the day before) which were just hopes and wishes expressed by the non-governmental Fiesp organisation. We saw the same in Norway.

I would urge anyone who looks at second hand international news to find the original source and verify its contents with the translated version before posting it here in yet another translated version. Especially articles from Swedish media on international Gripen news which normally has either already been posted here or exists in a better version at the source. Keep that in mind.

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Nordic Battle Group Ex: Joint Action

Gripens in NBG Expeditonary Air Wing contributing with multirole support for the EUBG between Nov 8-18.

http://img835.imageshack.us/img835/5975/imagevaulthandleraspx16dotjpg

The readiness period starts on the new year.

Swe Article (http://www.forsvarsmakten.se/sv/Aktuellt/Ovningar/Nordic-Battlegroup---ovningsserien-2010/Nyheter/Flyger-lagt-i-det-bla/)

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11/11/10

Saab presents Research and Innovation Centre at São Bernardo do Campo

Start up in december. Initial investment $50m over 5 years. This is created unrelated to the results of the F-X2. But also atteched to the news is the ambition of mayor Luiz Marinho to seek a meeting with Lula and Dillma on F-X2 to voice his opinion in favor of Saab.

http://img688.imageshack.us/img688/7373/25246dotjpg
Saab with mayor Marinho.

http://img717.imageshack.us/img717/3059/2174070dotjpg
Swedish metal worker's union IF Metall also joined for talks with the mayor.

link (http://www.saobernardo.sp.gov.br/comuns/noticia_completa.asp?ref=6938&qt1=)

link (http://www.abcdmaior.com.br/noticia_exibir.php?noticia=25246)

link (http://www.reporterdiario.com/site/noticia.php?id=217407&secao=1)

signatory
11-15-2010, 11:42 AM
11/15/2010
Volvo Aero offers total availability in unique Gripen engine agreement

by Corporate Communications, Volvo Aero

FMV and Volvo Aero have signed an agreement for Volvo Aero to provide maintenance, spare parts and product support to Gripen engines for five years in Sweden, Hungary and the Czech Republic. The agreement is unique of its type: Volvo Aero guarantees constant availability.

The ”RM12 PBL” (Performance Based Logistics) agreement is expected to be worth approximately 1.2 billion SEK to Volvo Aero over a five year period (two years with an option for three more years). The agreement encompasses engine maintenance, spare parts supply and technical product support for the Volvo RM12, the Gripen’s engine.

The agreement is yet another step in developing the already successful cooperation between FMV (Swedish Defence Administration), the Swedish Armed Forces and Volvo Aero.

Contract negotiations have taken place over almost a two year period and have led to, among other things, FMV, the Swedish Armed Forces and Volvo Aero developing solutions that provide Volvo Aero with an incentive to increase cost efficiency. Volvo Aero’s obligations mean that Air Forces in three countries, Sweden, Hungary and the Czech Republic, will be guaranteed constant availability of their Gripen engines on a weekly basis. An availibility guarantee of this level is thought to be unique in the world.

“Benefits to the customer have been in focus throughout the negotiations. We are grateful for the confidence now being placed in us. This helps us to further strengthen our cooperation and our work with RM12 customers in three different countries,” comments Staffan Zackrisson, President and CEO at Volvo Aero.

The Volvo RM12 is now a well-proven engine. The Gripen has accumulated over 143 000 flight hours to date without a single engine-related failure or incident, which puts the RM12 in a class of its own.

“It is therefore no exaggeration to say that we can offer world-class when it comes to flight safety, availability and flight cost,” says Staffan Zackrisson.

VAC (http://www.volvoaero.com/volvoaero/global/en-gb/newsmedia/press_releases/_layouts/CWP.Internet.VolvoCom/NewsItem.aspx?News.ItemId=91777&News.Language=en-gb)

signatory
11-15-2010, 11:52 AM
News filler.

Made a quick list of the key Reconnaissance assets in use on (and selected) for Gripen as some kind of overview. Tried to add some links for further reading, find these on the company name.

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Gripen ISTAR (Intelligence, Surveillance, Target, Acquisition, Reconnaissance) list.

http://img809.imageshack.us/img809/6707/istardotjpg
Fundamental overview

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LITENING G-III

http://i51.*******.com/2cmq9i0dotjpg

Day/Night Navigation & Targeting Pod.

Detection, recognition, identification and laser designation of air-to-surface and maritime targets.

Passive identification of aerial targets from the Beyond Visual Range (BVR).

User: SwAF, HuAF, SAAF.
Origin: Rafael (http://www.rafael.co.il/Marketing/334-914-en/Marketing.aspx).

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RECCELITE

http://i51.*******.com/ajt17cdotjpg

Tactical Reconnaissance Pod.

Electro-optic/infra-red.
Shares the Litening targeting pod ILS infrastructure.

Origin: Rafael (http://www.rafael.co.il/Marketing/334-915-en/Marketing.aspx).

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Digital Joint Reconnaissance Pod

http://i51.*******.com/257zif4dotjpg

Tactical Reconnaissance Pod.

Electro-optic/infra-red high-resolution/wide-area coverage.

User: SAAF.
Origin: Thales UK (http://www.thalesgroup.com/Press_Releases/Countries/United_Kingdom/2010/100923_UKPR_Thales_Digital_Joint_Reconnaissance_Pod_ready_to_fly_on_Gripen/).

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MRPS II - Modular Reconnaissance Pod System

http://i51.*******.com/iofdpkdotjpg

Tactical Reconnaissance Pod.

360 degree rotating window section.
Modular design for Film, Electro-optical/infra-red, SAR.

Variants: SPK 39 IV, SPK 39 V. Resolution: High.

User: SwAF.
Origin: Terma (http://www.terma.com/index.dsp?area=26), SAAB (http://www.saabgroup.com/Air/Sensor_Systems/Reconnaissance_Systems/MRPS_Modular_Reconnaissance_Pod_System/).

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Nose Radar PS-05/A

http://i51.*******.com/2j4pttldotjpg

Traditional modes of air, land, sea surveillance.

High resolution Synthetic Aperture Radar images with GMTI (Ground Moving Target Indicator) superposition.

'Large-SAR': Tactical datalink to let Gripen formations stitch together individual SAR images to much larger ones.

User: All Gripen Air forces.
Origin: SAAB (http://www.saabgroup.com/en/Air/Sensor_Systems/Fighter_Radar/PS_05_A/).

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EWS 39/S - Electronic Warfare System / Spaning

Passive detection and recording of radio frequency signals from emitters. Type matching against libraries.

Narrow and wideband IFM-receivers.

User: All Gripen Air forces.
Origin: SAAB.

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CA200 - Swedish Armed Forces Strategic Reconnaissance Pod

http://i54.*******.com/2cp6stydotjpg

Long range high altitude wide-area surveillance.

Resolution: Very high.

Origin: FMV the Swedish Defence Material Administration.
Pic: Illustrative only.

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Development Program: CARABAS/SCARAB for Gripen.

Ultra-wideband SAR radar.

Change detection radar - foilage penetrating wide-area ground surveillance.

Detection of man-made changes to the ground. Includes IED, tunnel, mine, troop detection.

Origin: Swedish Defence Research Agency (FOI), SAAB (http://www.saabgroup.com/en/Air/Sensor_Systems/Ground_Imaging_Sensors/CARABAS/Downloads/). GNT1 (http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/showthread.php?84527-Gripen-News-Thread&p=4095171&viewfull=1#post4095171), GNT2 (http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/showthread.php?84527-Gripen-News-Thread&p=4240602#post4240602).

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+ Handheld cameras and at least one set of human eyes.

Lockheed Martin has asked Saab if they would like to integrate Sniper AT (http://www.defensenews.com/story.php?i=4547991) but this will only be done on customer's request.
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Siafu
11-15-2010, 05:02 PM
http://www.praguemonitor.com/2010/11/15/%C4%8Dr-call-new-tender-after-gripens-lease-expires-says-pm

I found this article from the Prague Daily Monitor. In summary, the article says the Czech Republic will offer a new tender for fighters after the Gripen lease expires in 2015. All tenders are welcomed, but if BAE and Saab wants to resubmit the Gripen for the new tender, they will have to provide a all information regarding the Gripen corruption case.

It seems the article suggests that it is now for sure the Czech Republic will seek a new fighter. The article did not mention the scandal as a reason for the Czech parliament's refusal to purchase the aircrafts outright in 2002, but I think that would be a good assumption, in which case this may be an attempt to force BAE and Saab to come clean on the corruption case. I'm not here to debate the corruption, but to defend the Gripen.

Yes, the corruption is bad, but to not continue with the Gripen seems uneconomical to me. First, the fighters will still be in good condition. Second, they seem to have served the Czech Republic well. Third, I would guess that the Czech air force has already built up so much time, energy, skills, and logistics with the Gripen that it would seem more costly to me to switch to a whole new plane. Fourth, does the Czech Republic really need a fighter with more capabilities than the Gripen? I really do hope that this is just a pressure tactic and nothing more.

I just can't imagine operating a fighter for 10 years and then jumping to a new platform is a good investment. 10 years is not a long time and, last I checked, the Czech air force is still growing its Gripen capabilities. Also, can the Czech Republic really afford anything that will be substantially better than the Gripen? I know people have a right to be upset about corruption, but please don't take it out on the Gripen. But, should the Czech government actually choose to offer a new tender, someone else might be able to get some used Gripens at a good price.

Caprice
11-15-2010, 07:39 PM
The Gripens' supplier, the British-Swedish BAE Systems/Saab consortiumhttp://www.praguemonitor.com/2010/11...xpires-says-pm (http://www.praguemonitor.com/2010/11/15/%C4%8Dr-call-new-tender-after-gripens-lease-expires-says-pm)

How well informed is the Czeck prime minister(Or media?)?
AFAIK, the Gripen-deal that was signed is between Sweden and the Czech Republic(No BAE participation there). BAE was involved some years earlier, in the canceled tender due to floods or something... Hopefully this is just a declaration(of governmental "justness") to calm media...and opposition? Strangely enough, now days rumors seems to be the truth after some time of media processing...

As you said; to scrap the hole Gripen system and start over would be economically insane IMHO.

C.

Breerman
11-15-2010, 07:48 PM
I think sanity will prevail. But of course otherwise a new deal might open up for Bulgaria or Romania.

Breerman
11-16-2010, 04:15 AM
Powerful image

http://img337.imageshack.us/img337/8889/gripenngdemo450gallondrdotjpg

Gripen NG Demo with Meteor, IRIS-T, Paveway, and 450 gallon drop tanks

Skyman
11-16-2010, 06:52 AM
Today, Thai cabinet approve the second phase of Gripen. RTAF delegate will sign the contract soon. Second phase included 6 Gripens (All C version), 1 Saab 340 AEW, 12 RBS-15Fs, 24 master-degree scholarships, 24 man-years of technology transfer, and also industrial cooperation.

Sorry it's in Thai. :)


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โดยอนุมัติให้กองทัพอากาศก่อ หนี้ผูกพันข้ามปีงบประมาณ โครงการจัดหาเครื่องบินขับไล่อเนกประสงค์ทดแทนเครื่องบินขับไล่แบบ 18 ก/ข (ระยะที่ 2) วงเงิน 16,222 ล้านบาท ระยะเวลาดำเนินการ 5 ปี ตั้งแต่ปีงบประมาณ 54 - 58 โดยการจัดซื้อเครื่องบินขับไล่อเนกประสงค์แบบ Gripen 39 C จำนวน 6 เครื่อง พร้อมอุปกรณ์ การส่งกำลังบำรุง การฝึกอบรม และการบริหารโครงการ จากองค์กรจัดหายุทธภัณฑ์ทางทหารสวีเดน (F?RSVERETS MASTERIEL VERK : FMV) โดยวิธีรัฐบาลต่อรัฐบาล รวมทั้งการปรับปรุงอาคารสถานที่ และการบริหารโครงการเพื่อเตรียมรับเครื่องบินของกองทัพอากาศ

พร้อม กันนี้ ให้กองทัพอากาศรับ ข้อเสนอพิเศษจากรัฐบาลสวีเดนประกอบด้วย 1.เครื่องบินควบคุมและแจ้งเตือนทางอากาศ (SAAB 340 AEW) ติดตั้งอุปกรณ์เรดาร์แบบ ERIEYE จำนวน 1 เครื่อง 2.ระบบอาวุธนำวิถีต่อต้านเรือผิวน้ำ (RB15F) จำนวน 12 นัด พร้อม TROLLEYS 3.ทุนการศึกษาระดับปริญญาโท 24 ทุน การถ่ายทอดเทคโนโลยี 24 MAN-YEARS และความร่วมมือทวิภาคีด้านอุตสาหกรรม

ทั้งนี้ ให้ผู้บัญชาการทหารอากาศหรือผู้แทนเป็นผู้ลงนามในข้อตกลงการจัดซื้อเครื่อง บินขับไล่อเนกประสงค์แบบ Gripen 39 C ในฐานะผู้แทนรัฐบาลไทย รวมทั้งการลงนามในเอกสารแก้ไขเปลี่ยนแปลงข้อตกลงจัดซื้อที่อาจเกิดขึ้นในภาย หลัง เฉพาะในกรณีแก้ไขรายละเอียดที่มิใช่สาระสำคัญ โดยวงเงินรวมไม่เปลี่ยนแปลง
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signatory
11-16-2010, 11:44 AM
Good to see the timely decision in Thailand.

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Saab receives breakthrough Rapid 3D Mapping™ order for Gripen simulators

16 November 2010, in News

Defence and security company Saab has received an order from FMV, the Swedish Defence Material Administration, for the delivery of 3-dimensional (3D) models to the Swedish Gripen simulators. The 3D-models will give the simulators a highly realistic visualisation model.

The 3D-models will be generated by the system Rapid 3D Mapping™ based on aerial images, developed by Saab.

“This is an important milestone that proves that 3D-models generated by our new product Rapid 3D Mapping™ can be used with excellent results for visualisation in simulators”, says Ulf Hellberg, Head of Business Development within Saab’s business area Dynamics.

“The 3D-models provides the customer with a more realistic solution compared to traditional ways of building visualisation models”, says Magnus Brege, Marketing Director Rapid 3D Mapping™.

The world-leading technology behind Rapid 3D Mapping™, is a results of Saab’s unique competence in image processing, navigation and systems integration resulting from the long experience in developing advanced systems for missiles.

saab (http://www.saabgroup.com/About-Saab/Newsroom/Press-releases--News/Saab-receives-breakthrough-Rapid-3D-Mapping-order-for-Gripen-simulators/)

Rapid 3D Mapping (http://www.saabgroup.com/Civil-security/Police-and-Rescue-Solutions/Solutions-for-Police-Strategic-Command/Rapid-3D-Mapping/)

Henke556
11-16-2010, 03:58 PM
Nice to see that Thailand buys another 6 aircrafts. I wonder when the news reach the Swedish press? When they sign the new contract, will there be with an option for buying more Gripens? Any more info on that?

Here's a pair of articles in a local paper in Sweden, quite well written and nice pics:)

http://nwt.se/mera/motor/article803568.ece

http://nwt.se/mera/motor/article803569.ece

Googletranslatetion:
http://translate.google.com/translate?js=n&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&layout=2&eotf=1&sl=sv&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Fnwt.se%2Fmera%2Fmotor%2Farticle803568.ece&act=url


http://translate.google.com/translate?js=n&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&layout=2&eotf=1&sl=sv&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Fnwt.se%2Fmera%2Fmotor%2Farticle803569.ece&act=url

fish_b
11-16-2010, 06:20 PM
Seems as though the Gripen is making its way slowly but surelly as a top contender for purchasing from all over the world.

I can only hope we get One of 3 variants so by taking out the french contender and leaving just 2 of the good planes a Gripen E/F is a very wet dream indeed .

Any news on the future definitive capabilaties as well as customer costumization of the Gripen ?