VSCG small arms and some rare (alot of pics!!!!!)

[AK-Lover]

Here are some of the small arms used in our armed forces:
http://elektron.tmf.bg.ac.yu/user/bojan/inf/rifles/m70/7.62mm_m70b1_m70ab2_01.jpg
The M-70AB2 which is "standard" rifle of our army is an folding stock version of the M70 series of assualt rifles which derive from Russian AKM rifles. The M70 series rifle's are the most superior version of the AK type ever produced due to strengthened receiver and higher quality manufacture. They still retain the same 7.62x39mm round. The cover seen on the M70 series of rifles that are over the gas tube are actually I beleive for aiming of rifle-grenade? ratko?rsk? :D These rifles were developed in 1970's for the JNA by Zastava arms. They were widely used around balkans wars and kosovo. Many remain in service of former yugo states, especially SCG where it is still official rifle of armed forces and other security organs of the governemnt including police where it is used as a back-up weapon. :D (just like shotgun in north america). These rifles are very reliable and will probably remain in service for at least another decade until replaced by something new. (M-21?)
here are some more pictures:
http://elektron.tmf.bg.ac.yu/user/bojan/inf/rifles/m70/7.62mm_m70ab2n-pn_01.jpg
Yugoslav paratrooper with M-70AB2 and NV scope mounted (not sure which type?)
ttp://elektron.tmf.bg.ac.yu/user/bojan/inf/rifles/m70/7.62mm_m70b1_m70ab2_02.jpg
M-70AB2 and M-70AB1
http://elektron.tmf.bg.ac.yu/user/bojan/inf/rifles/m70/7.62mm_m70b1_01.jpg M70AB1
http://elektron.tmf.bg.ac.yu/user/bojan/inf/rifles/m70/7.62mm_m70b1n-pn_01.jpg
http://elektron.tmf.bg.ac.yu/user/bojan/inf/rifles/m70/7.62mm_m70b1_03.jpg This version was developed for motorized-infantry to provide quick means of support for squads by firing 21mm grenades.
http://elektron.tmf.bg.ac.yu/user/bojan/inf/rifles/m70/7.62mm_m70b1_02.jpg M-70AB1, note more curved plastic grip not yet seen on most AK type rifles during this time period.
http://elektron.tmf.bg.ac.yu/user/bojan/inf/rifles/m70/7.62mm_m70ab2_03.jpg M-70AB2 is very compact when folded and can be fired and reloaded from this position making it a very good gang or drive-by weapon. :)
http://elektron.tmf.bg.ac.yu/user/bojan/inf/rifles/m70/7.62mm_m70ab2_01.jpg M-70AB2
http://elektron.tmf.bg.ac.yu/user/bojan/inf/rifles/m70/7.62mm_m70ab1_01.jpg M70AB2

new 5.56mm M-21 rifle pics:
http://elektron.tmf.bg.ac.yu/user/bojan/inf/rifles/m21/5.56mm_m21_01.jpg
http://elektron.tmf.bg.ac.yu/user/bojan/inf/rifles/m21/5.56mm_m21_02.jpg
http://elektron.tmf.bg.ac.yu/user/bojan/inf/rifles/m21/5.56mm_m21_03.jpg
http://elektron.tmf.bg.ac.yu/user/bojan/inf/rifles/m21/5.56mm_m21_04.jpg
http://elektron.tmf.bg.ac.yu/user/bojan/inf/rifles/m21/5.56mm_m21_05.JPG
http://elektron.tmf.bg.ac.yu/user/bojan/inf/rifles/m21/5.56mm_m21_06.jpg
http://elektron.tmf.bg.ac.yu/user/bojan/inf/rifles/m21/5.56mm_m21_07_safety.jpg Safety system
http://elektron.tmf.bg.ac.yu/user/bojan/inf/rifles/m21/5.56mm_m21_08.jpg
http://elektron.tmf.bg.ac.yu/user/bojan/inf/rifles/m21/5.56mm_m21_09.jpg M-21 rifle disassembled.
http://elektron.tmf.bg.ac.yu/user/bojan/inf/rifles/m21/5.56mm_m21_10.jpg
http://elektron.tmf.bg.ac.yu/user/bojan/inf/rifles/m64/7.62mm_m64a_01.jpg This is a prototype rifle called M-64 which was suppoesed to be based on AKS and then was used as base for M70 which was AKMS.
http://elektron.tmf.bg.ac.yu/user/bojan/inf/rifles/m77/7.62mm_m77b1_01.jpg
http://elektron.tmf.bg.ac.yu/user/bojan/inf/rifles/m77/7.62mm_m77b1_02.jpg M-77B1 carbine.
http://elektron.tmf.bg.ac.yu/user/bojan/inf/rifles/m80/5.56mm_m80_01.jpg M80 series of rifles was started by Zastava in 80's to promote to global market with it's 5.56mm NATO round.
http://elektron.tmf.bg.ac.yu/user/bojan/inf/rifles/m80/5.56mm_m80_02.jpg
http://elektron.tmf.bg.ac.yu/user/bojan/inf/rifles/m80/5.56mm_m80_m80a_01.JPG
http://elektron.tmf.bg.ac.yu/user/bojan/inf/rifles/m80/5.56mm_m85_m85a_m82a_01.jpg
http://elektron.tmf.bg.ac.yu/user/bojan/inf/rifles/m85/5.56mm_m85_01.jpg M-85 is submachinegun variant to M80 series, used by police and internal security organizations.
http://elektron.tmf.bg.ac.yu/user/bojan/inf/rifles/m85/5.56mm_m85_02.jpg
http://elektron.tmf.bg.ac.yu/user/bojan/inf/rifles/m85/5.56mm_m85_bullpup.jpg this is an M-85 bullpup version.
http://elektron.tmf.bg.ac.yu/user/bojan/inf/rifles/m93/7.62mm_m93_01.jpgM-93 is an 7.62 version of M-85 submachinegun, not sure of status of service?
http://elektron.tmf.bg.ac.yu/user/bojan/inf/rifles/m93/7.62mm_m93_02_civilni.jpg M-93 "civilni" (civilian)


http://elektron.tmf.bg.ac.yu/user/bojan/inf/rifles/prototypes/5.56mm_m99_m95_01.jpg These were prototype M-95 M-99 5.56mm rifles.
http://elektron.tmf.bg.ac.yu/user/bojan/inf/rifles/prototypes/7.62mm_m93_5.56mm_m80_5.56mm_m95_01.jpg Some more prototype rifles,from top 7.62mm M-93, 5.56mm M-80, 5.56mm M-95.
http://elektron.tmf.bg.ac.yu/user/bojan/inf/rifles/prototypes/7.62mm_m93_5.56mm_m80_5.56mm_m95_02.jpg Same as above.
hope you enjoy, more coming!

[MVSpartan117]

Great pics, I like this gun :D

http://elektron.tmf.bg.ac.yu/user/bojan/inf/rifles/m85/5.56mm_m85_bullpup.jpg

[AK-Lover]

Here are some LSW and grenade munitions of VSCG and JNA,enjoy:
http://elektron.tmf.bg.ac.yu/user/bojan/inf/lsw/m53/7.92mm_m53_lmg_01.jpg M-53 is post war copy of german GPMG MG-42. only real difference is rate of fire. M-53 has reduced rate to 850rpm. Seen here on training excersise with JNA.

http://elektron.tmf.bg.ac.yu/user/bojan/inf/lsw/m53/7.92mm_m53_lmg_02.jpg
ttp://elektron.tmf.bg.ac.yu/user/bojan/inf/lsw/m65/7.62mm_m65_01.jpg M-65 SAW, still in service with VSCG i think.
http://elektron.tmf.bg.ac.yu/user/bojan/inf/lsw/m72/7.62mm_m72ab1_01.jpg M72AB1 SAW probably meant for airborne and mechanized troops. Not sure if in service.
http://elektron.tmf.bg.ac.yu/user/bojan/inf/lsw/m72/7.62mm_m72b1_02.jpg M-72 SAW
http://elektron.tmf.bg.ac.yu/user/bojan/inf/lsw/m72/7.62mm_m72b1_m72ab1_01.jpg
http://elektron.tmf.bg.ac.yu/user/bojan/inf/lsw/m72/7.62mm_m72b1_m72ab1_02.jpg
http://elektron.tmf.bg.ac.yu/user/bojan/inf/lsw/m77/7.62mm_m77b1_01.jpg M-77 SAW?
http://elektron.tmf.bg.ac.yu/user/bojan/inf/lsw/m77/7.62mm_m77b1_02.jpg
http://elektron.tmf.bg.ac.yu/user/bojan/inf/lsw/m82/5.56mm_m82_m82a.jpg 5.56mm SAW
http://elektron.tmf.bg.ac.yu/user/bojan/inf/lsw/m84/7.62mm_m84_lmg_01.jpg Current VSCG GPMG, M-84, copy of russian PKS.
http://elektron.tmf.bg.ac.yu/user/bojan/inf/lsw/m84/7.62mm_m84_lmg_02.jpg
http://elektron.tmf.bg.ac.yu/user/bojan/inf/lsw/m84/7.62mm_m84_lmg_03.jpg
http://elektron.tmf.bg.ac.yu/user/bojan/inf/lsw/m84/7.62mm_m84_mmg_lmg.jpg

http://elektron.tmf.bg.ac.yu/user/bojan/inf/heavy/hmg/12.7mm_m87_hmg_01_trailer.jpg M-87 12.7mm HMG, current "official" HMG of VSCG mostly mounted on m-84 MBT, although 12.7mm HMG M2BMG and Dshk 39/44 are more common.
http://elektron.tmf.bg.ac.yu/user/bojan/inf/heavy/hmg/12.7mm_m93_hmg_01.jpg M-93 HMG.
http://elektron.tmf.bg.ac.yu/user/bojan/inf/heavy/abg/30mm_abg-30_05. ABG-30 is standard VSCG AGL it fires 30mm grenades.
http://elektron.tmf.bg.ac.yu/user/bojan/inf/heavy/abg/30mm_abg-30_01.jpg
http://elektron.tmf.bg.ac.yu/user/bojan/inf/heavy/abg/30mm_abg-30_02.jpg
http://elektron.tmf.bg.ac.yu/user/bojan/inf/heavy/abg/30mm_abg-30_03.jpg
http://elektron.tmf.bg.ac.yu/user/bojan/inf/heavy/abg/30mm_abg-30_04.jpg
http://elektron.tmf.bg.ac.yu/user/bojan/inf/handgrenaded/m75_01.jpg This is the current VSCG hand grenade fragmentation system,M-75. Or more well known to you serbs out their as "kasikara"
http://elektron.tmf.bg.ac.yu/user/bojan/inf/handgrenaded/m75_02.JPG M-75 FRAG grenade.
http://elektron.tmf.bg.ac.yu/user/bojan/inf/handgrenaded/rbb_m1a2_02.jpg
http://elektron.tmf.bg.ac.yu/user/bojan/inf/handgrenaded/rbb_m3/rbb_m3_01.jpg RBB-3 Rifle-grenade systems.
http://elektron.tmf.bg.ac.yu/user/bojan/inf/handgrenaded/rbb_m3/rbb_m3_03.jpg

And here's some more M-84 GPMG pics:
http://elektron.tmf.bg.ac.yu/user/bojan/inf/heavy/mmg/7.62mm_m84_01.jpg
http://elektron.tmf.bg.ac.yu/user/bojan/inf/heavy/mmg/7.62mm_m84_02.jpg M-84 with field magnification scope.

Well I hope you enjoy the pics! Some of these were hard to find. And I hope you have better understanding of VSCG equipment.

[mustamato]

http://elektron.tmf.bg.ac.yu/user/bojan/inf/handgrenaded/rbb_m3/rbb_m3_03.jpg

Any specifications of this RBB-3? Range and accuracy?

[AK-Lover]

Can't find any yet, but i'll info you if I find them.

[haze99]

GREAT PHOTOS! GOOD Collection!

Now you sure can see the resemblence on the Iraqi Tabuk, as compared to the Zastava rifles!

I have not seen the M-72AB2 in use? Just the M-72B1. Interesting too, is the AK-74 type muzzle brakes on the newer production M-80/80A!

On another thread, of Macedonian forces in Iraq, they were using the
M-95A.

[Royal]

The flip up sight above the gas mechanism is indeed for 'mine tromblonske' (RLG's) as is the barell extension seen replacing the normal muzzle brake on some photo's.

The M72AB2 is in service.

[Groove]

Great Pics man !

This one looks a little bit like a MG 34 :

http://elektron.tmf.bg.ac.yu/user/bojan/inf/lsw/m53/7.92mm_m53_lmg_02.jpg

German MG 34:

http://www.hobbytyme.com/mdse/ver794.jpg

Greetings

Groove

[IDFM203]

http://elektron.tmf.bg.ac.yu/user/bojan/inf/rifles/m21/5.56mm_m21_01.jpg
http://elektron.tmf.bg.ac.yu/user/bojan/inf/rifles/m21/5.56mm_m21_10.jpg

I am not sure, but those reflex sights in your pics look very similar to the Israeli made Multipurpose Aiming Reflex Sight or what’s better known as the ITL MARS (http://www.isayeret.com/optics/mars/mars.htm)

Here are a few pics of the Israeli ITL MARS in the IDF…….


http://www.isayeret.com/optics/mars/mars-small.jpg
http://www.isayeret.com/weapons/assault/commando/mars+commando.jpg
http://www.isayeret.com/optics/mars/mars-BL-10.jpg
http://www.isayeret.com/weapons/assault/tavor/tavor_micro.jpg

So in your pics there, is it in fact the ITL MARS or some kind of clone of it?

Shalom :D

[Piotrek]

http://elektron.tmf.bg.ac.yu/user/bojan/inf/rifles/m21/5.56mm_m21_09.jpg

thats what i was looking for :) i'm curious if the scope need adjusting after dis-assembling??

[AK-Lover]

No I don't think so because the rail is intergeated. :D

[AK-Lover]

http://elektron.tmf.bg.ac.yu/user/bojan/inf/rifles/m70/7.62mm_m70ab2_01.jpg
My uncle still has his M-70AB2 at his house and I have one at a personal weapons bunker near my village of spance. :D

[SerbPVO]

http://www.zastava-arms.co.yu/meni/gore/meni_04.jpg

[REMOV]

i'm curious if the scope need adjusting after disassembling??In my opinion - yes. This receiver cover is a movable element and it is nearly impossible always fits in exactly the same position.

[Piotrek]

In my opinion - yes. This receiver cover is a movable element and it is nearly impossible always fits in exactly the same position.

Yes but ther is a difference between Zastava and other AK famili members - the cover is attached to the reciver by a pin - so it has better base then in other AK rifles..from the other side those are still stamp parts so they can''t be very precision.

Well, mauser is doing hunting rifles with change-able barrels which doesnt need adjusting after changeing but it is a difrent story and difrent quality.

[REMOV]

Yes but ther is a difference between Zastava and other AK famili members - the cover is attached to the reciver by a pinHave you ever seek AKS-74U? Try to disassemble it, ok?

from the other side those are still stamp parts so they can''t be very precision.It is the point.

[Piotrek]

Have you ever seek AKS-74U?

never dis-assembled :(


Try to disassemble it, ok?

Well I would like to but unfortunately I have none at hand...