Blood* AIRSOFTERS

[dagawebb]

Is it me or does it seem like every person on this site that is a so called military expert on photos, weapons and conflicts an AIRSOFTER. Jesus guys stop sounding like you have fought in all conflicts in the last 20 years and go join the Army Navy or Airforce and take your own photos of a country in a war or conflict. I am Sick of hearing AIRSOFTERS commenting and questioning on photos that are posted here and they have never served a day in a hostile environment. Ask me to prove I am currently in an area that is involved in a conflict and I will gladly send you a pic. In fact I will go out and take a pic of the bloody big sandy desert out my back door. So if you are not or have not been in a conflict or war stop shooting down those that are and go out and get into a conflict in a hostile environment. OUT

[AlphaOneSix]

This is the "Strictly Photos & Videos" forum, not the "Complain about Airsofters" forum.

[dagawebb]

Understand about the complain about airsofters but for the life of me I could not fiind that forum lol, but the post more directly relates to how they pick at photos, forces, people, weapons personnel and a plethora of other things in the photo post forum, figured this was the best of all places to put it.

Cheers

[deadhorse]

is it me or does it seem like every person on this site that is a so called military expert on photos, weapons and conflicts an AIRSOFTER. Jesus guys stop sounding like you have fought in all conflicts in the last 20 years and go join the Army Navy or Airforce and take your own photos of a country in a war or conflict. I am Sick of hearing AIRSOFTERS commenting and questioning on photos that are posted here and they have never served a day in a hostile environment. Ask me to prove I am currently in an area that is involved in a conflict and I will gladly send you a pic. In fact I will go out and take a pic of the bloody big sandy desert out my back door. So if you are not or have not been in a conflict or war stop shooting down those that are and go out and get into a conflict in a hostile environment. OUT

Where is this coming from?? I am a vet(as MANY others are here) of a few operations and I haven't been offended by someone who hasn't been in one...

[kazbitch]

Is it me or does it seem like every person on this site that is a so called military expert on photos, weapons and conflicts an AIRSOFTER. Jesus guys stop sounding like you have fought in all conflicts in the last 20 years and go join the Army Navy or Airforce and take your own photos of a country in a war or conflict. I am Sick of hearing AIRSOFTERS commenting and questioning on photos that are posted here and they have never served a day in a hostile environment. Ask me to prove I am currently in an area that is involved in a conflict and I will gladly send you a pic. In fact I will go out and take a pic of the bloody big sandy desert out my back door. So if you are not or have not been in a conflict or war stop shooting down those that are and go out and get into a conflict in a hostile environment. OUT
rofl
So I can’t give my opinion on a public forum about anything military related as I’ve never served in the military, grow up. If this was a strictly for serving and retired military people you might have a point but it’s not so if you don’t like what you read IGNORE IT! Sure most of the time I might be wrong but at least people put me straight on the facts of the matter eh?

[dagawebb]

I am not saying that anyone has been offended, I am just saying I am sick of Airsofters that pick at peoples photos and personal experiences relayed in the photos. I too am a veteran of several conflicts and am currently in the big sandy place. I do not want to post my pics on here.

[deadhorse]

I am not saying that anyone has been offended, I am just saying I am sick of Airsofters that pick at peoples photos and personal experiences relayed in the photos. I too am a veteran of several conflicts and am currently in the big sandy place. I do not want to post my pics on here.


Ok....I'm just trying to understand where all this is coming from. If you don't want to post your pics, fine. No harm, no foul. So why the need to say all this?

[ShakesFIST]

I am not saying that anyone has been offended, I am just saying I am sick of Airsofters that pick at peoples photos and personal experiences relayed in the photos. I too am a veteran of several conflicts and am currently in the big sandy place. I do not want to post my pics on here.

Well than don't. No one said you had to. Alot of people play airsoft, deal with it and move on.

[dagawebb]

If you do not know what you are talking about in a thread, and you post a reply you are not 100% correct in what you post DO NOT POST IT. for example Quote "Great pics once again, only thing is thats an Indian chopper (i think). Where do you find all these pics?" if you do not know what it is do not guess ask.

[Fargin]

I'm not an airsofter and since we got the airsoft section, I haven't seen any airsofters causing any commotion round here. Think of it, I don't really nocited any problem before the airsoft forum either. Are you sure it's airsofter you're having a problem with?

And stay safe over there. :D

[dagawebb]

Airsofters need to ask questions if they are not sure, do not make assumptions on what is posted, only post what is correct or or ask questions. Do not go bagging out other countries for example, there are posts on here bagging out French soldiers airsofters made comments about French soldiers which border on Slanderous, I currently work with a large number of ex french army soldiers and ex legion soldiers and they are some of the best I ahve worked with. Grinds me at what people make assumpions on or when they bag out other countries in this forum when they have no idea.

[deadhorse]

If you do not know what you are talking about in a thread, and you post a reply you are not 100% correct in what you post DO NOT POST IT. for example Quote "Great pics once again, only thing is thats an Indian chopper (i think). Where do you find all these pics?" if you do not know what it is do not guess ask.

Ok, wait a minute...I think you just mean that people in general who may not quite know what they are commenting on, bothers you, right? Not "airsofters" in general. Hey, some people around here bother me with their opinions or comments too, but you gonna get that on a forum like this. I'd say if anything, with a disagreement people should just logically and intelligently talk it out, which doesn't happen very often, obviously. I think people lose sight of the fact that this forum should be used an exchange of information and knowledge; not picking fights. I'd say just ignore the idiots and continue on with all the "good" people that are left here...there are quite a few good guys here! Stay safe, dude.

[Deuterium]

His point is valid. I think that a technique that would solve this issue would be for use of qualifying terms when giving opinions. When stating facts a qualifying term is not necessary but if this fact does not come from your personal experience then it needs to be qualified as well. Finally, to further muddy this point, some facts are self evident and don't need qualifying. These facts typically don't piss off BTDT's.

If you see a pic of an M-4 or an F-16 and you state hey that’s a M-4 or F-16 I don’t think anyone has a problem with that statement. You can describe the pic, ask questions of other readers, or offer your personal opinion. What you can’t do is say things like, “Soldiers typically do this....” or “That F-16 is making a bombing run...” all definitive statements. You certainly can say things like “that soldiers looks like the last pic where it was described as....” or “my guess is that that F-16 is doing.......based upon.....”.

[deadhorse]

His point is valid. I think that a technique that would solve this issue would be for use of qualifying terms when giving opinions. When stating facts a qualifying term is not necessary but if this fact does not come from your personal experience then it needs to be qualified as well. Finally, to further muddy this point, some facts are self evident and don't need qualifying. These facts typically don't piss off BTDT's.

If you see a pic of an M-4 or an F-16 and you state hey that’s a M-4 or F-16 I don’t think anyone has a problem with that statement. You can describe the pic, ask questions of other readers, or offer your personal opinion. What you can’t do is say things like, “Soldiers typically do this....” or “That F-16 is making a bombing run...” all definitive statements. You certainly can say things like “that soldiers looks like the last pic where it was described as....” or “my guess is that that F-16 is doing.......based upon.....”.

I agree. People should be able to quantify their pics or statements, I guess, but I think it would be impossible to moderate such a proposition.

[usa320]

dont worry abut the airsofters... you can rest comfortably knowing that they spend so much money are gear they will never get laid.

im not offended by them, i just find them to be a goofy lot...

[dagawebb]

What Deuterium has said is the way it should happen, and generally what I have seen is that airsofters say this is what it is or this is what it does or no they use these weapons or no they do it this way. What is read in a book is different to what is done on the ground. The people that have been on the ground doing the job are more qualified to answer questions and can safely say that this is what is is or this is how it works. Those people have the time on the ground to answer 100% correct. But I have found that AIRSOFTERS are saying that what they say is CORRECT and the guy that has been on the ground doing the job is being shot down because of his answer, that generally happens in this forum because what is in a book is 70% different to what actually happens on the ground. It is like a Military Manual it s a GUIDE on how things should be done not HOW IT IS to be done.

[dagawebb]

While I am on it no one except PSD operators should coment on pictures relating to PSD Operators or PMC's.

[Bert]

I have yet to be pissed off by any airsofter and you've been pissed off by them after 19 posts - do I smell someone passing judgements before even registering here? :| To me it looks like you were actively searching for some reason to bash them.

[deadhorse]

I agree with what you're saying...too many flamers and "know it alls" around here. Did someone or something specific piss you off??? And why do you keep referring to "airsofters"?

[Digital Marine]

His joining date was 3 years ago... so uhh p-)

What makes you say that everyone who makes faulty judgements is an airsofter?

[CPLHUNTER]

Airsoft or no airsoft, opinions are opinions and will always be taken as such. If you have a specific issue w/a statement made by someone who you feel is unqualified, then broach the subject w/ them...

In the meantime, I really don't care if the airsofters comment on each other or other stuff.

Personally I would rather spend my $ on the real thing rather than replicas.

[Kersh]

I have yet to be pissed off by any airsofter and you've been pissed off by them after 19 posts - do I smell someone passing judgements before even registering here? :| To me it looks like you were actively searching for some reason to bash them.

Post count doesn't matter. I've been here since this site started, and look how many posts I have. This guy has been here since Oct of '03, almost as long as I have. I bet you he's seen his fair share of **** around these forums.

[Roy Batty]

While I am on it no one except PSD operators should coment on pictures relating to PSD Operators or PMC's.

I agree that people should quantify their information/opinions but your last statement is out to lunch. I support ( by service ) peoples right to free speech and if they want to talk about the Canadian Forces I am happy to listen even if they are not a member so what makes PMCs special? I have worked with PMCs, but I'm not one, does that mean I cant comment on them? It's the internet folks not real life. This place will always be covered in kids, week-end warriors and wannabes get used to it and seperate the wheat from the chaff.

[dagawebb]

Well If you see I have been in here since 2003, I am a lurker and Read, laugh and get Irate and One that particularly pissed me off was about the French SOF

[CPLHUNTER]

What Deuterium has said is the way it should happen, and generally what I have seen is that airsofters say this is what it is or this is what it does or no they use these weapons or no they do it this way. What is read in a book is different to what is done on the ground. The people that have been on the ground doing the job are more qualified to answer questions and can safely say that this is what is is or this is how it works. Those people have the time on the ground to answer 100% correct. But I have found that AIRSOFTERS are saying that what they say is CORRECT and the guy that has been on the ground doing the job is being shot down because of his answer, that generally happens in this forum because what is in a book is 70% different to what actually happens on the ground. It is like a Military Manual it s a GUIDE on how things should be done not HOW IT IS to be done.

If situations like this occur then its complete BS. I would hope no airsofters would try to correct those with boots on the ground, but I'm sure it has happened.

Look at it like this: be secure in your own intimate knowledge of the sandbox you're in and don't stress out about crap posted on an internet forum.

BTW, stay safe out there.

[Beckett]

your and airosofter arnt ya? jkp-)


suck it up man its really obvious when some airsoft monkey is making a statement and everyone just blows it off.

[dagawebb]

I have seen some trash spoken about PSD operators, and I kow It was a little out of left field but PSD operators are really the ones who know how PSD and PMC's work. In no way do i mean that no one can comment on CPP, PSD Operators are not the gurus at CPP, but the PSD operators are members of a very new form business and operation and really who in the airsoft community can quantify anything about PSD's and PMC's, military guys and gals feel free to comment on what you have seen and when you have worked with them but airsofters know nothing about PSD work. Military guys and gals feel free to comment.

[Andrew116]

Shouldn't this post be in the Airsoft, Paintball and Renactment Forum?

[CPLHUNTER]

your and airosofter arnt ya? jkp-)


suck it up man its really obvious when some airsoft monkey is making a statement and everyone just blows it off.

I really haven't seen that much of BS coming from the team airsoft, but I would imagine that if I was currently deployed, I would pretty irritated by stuff like that

[CPLHUNTER]

Shouldn't this post be in the Airsoft, Paintball and Renactment Forum?

Or the rants section

[deadhorse]

Ok, I think you were pissed with a few comments on the "French SOF weapon" thread, right? Well, those guys got banned and got what was coming, so you can say justice was meted out. I can understand a lot of things said by people around here is ignorant or offensive, but you just have to be able to shrug it off....I'm sure you have enough stress to deal with in real life, not withstanding some of the idiots around here!

[Death.]

Airsofters need to ask questions if they are not sure, do not make assumptions on what is posted, only post what is correct or or ask questions. .
I think you need to stop your assumptions and stereotyping that every airsofter is a delta force navy seal ranger wanna-be that think they know more than everyone else, for serious mah dawg.

You tell airsofters to stop assuming but you're assuming your self, so what gives?

[dagawebb]

With comments like this anyone would wonder why I am pissed Quote "I don't understand why we are still allied with France, they are a too bit nation that no longer has superpower status." who in thier right mind would make that comment. Well USER RAMBONE made that comment calling RAMBONE prove me worng that you are not an airsofter ???

[Beckett]

you cant hold every person of one group accountable for one idiots statement. If one frenchman made a bone headed call i promise i wouldnt think he spoke for all of france.

[Death.]

Are you talking to me, daga? I don't think you even read what I said, I just said you shouldn't assume that other people are assuming things 'cuz it makes you look like a hypocrite, plus... you shouldn't assume cuz it makes an ASS out of U and ME (get it?) rofl, yeah old/crappy joke I know

But I understand that if rambone or w/e said something uh.. harsh about france or any other country, someone from that country may take offense and get angry about it.

[Roy Batty]

Plain and simple; not all a$$holes are airsofters and not all airsofters are a$$holes so your argument is kinda mute.

[Death.]

Plain and simple; not all a$$holes are airsofters and not all airsofters are a$$holes so your argument is kinda mute.

Word.







dot dot

[K.Johnston]

Ibtl!

= P

[Morboute]

Plain and simple; not all a$$holes are airsofters and not all airsofters are a$$holes so your argument is kinda mute.

/agreed......

[attackong]

Don´t mind him, he is just probably bored and alone, and far away from the nearest shooting range. He just want some attentions guys

[dagawebb]

Well, who the hell are you to go around making a comment like that, you are a high school student you pinhead. Get out of home come over here and earn a living in a real environment instead of being at home suckling on mummies breast. You have a nerve. I will go back to lurking Proved my point. OUT

[deadhorse]

Don´t mind him, he is just probably bored and alone, and far away from the nearest shooting range. He just want some attentions guys

That was an infantile thing to say. You just proved his point. :bash:

[moughoun]

I can get what he's saying, on the other hand, it's not all airsofter's, Blarney causes 85% of this ****, posting his opinion's as if they were fact's, how many time's have I seen him arguing with people over special operation's kit, like he know's wtf he's talking about

[dagawebb]

hey Deadhorse Where are you ??

[deadhorse]

hey Deadhorse Where are you ??

In Central Texas. Why, you "lurking" in my 'hood??? rofl

[Digital Marine]

I can get what he's saying, on the other hand, it's not all airsofter's, Blarney causes 85% of this ****, posting his opinion's as if they were fact's, how many time's have I seen him arguing with people over special operation's kit, like he know's wtf he's talking about

Yeah, there's been quite a flamewar about that in the airsoft section.. there aren't many flamewars in that section.. so it was quite enjoyablep-) :lol:

[dagawebb]

Not lurking in your backyard mate, just looked at your profile ?? Thought you might be where I am ??

[deadhorse]

Not lurking in you r mate, just looked at your profile ?? Thought you might be where I am ??

Fortunately for me, I am NOT where you're at it. Although I have been there TWICE since '03.....

[dagawebb]

OK cool. Sorry bit dark no power at the moment lol OUT

[deadhorse]

OK cool. Sorry bit dark no power at the moment lol OUT

No prob....keep your head down and stay safe, dude. Cheers.

[moughoun]

Yeah, there's been quite a flamewar about that in the airsoft section.. there aren't many flamewars in that section.. so it was quite enjoyablep-) :lol: saw that:roll:, on the exact oppostie side, you have a guy like Tenda, no bull****, no ego trip, just does his thing....

[Victis Honor]

Well, who the hell are you to go around making a comment like that, you are a high school student you pinhead. Get out of home come over here and earn a living in a real environment instead of being at home suckling on mummies breast. You have a nerve. I will go back to lurking Proved my point. OUT


Did you finish high school?? wtf do you know about him maybe he is want to get a nice diploma first. What you say is that everybody who hasnt been in a war zone need to stfu, thats just stupid.

I am mostly here to look at the pictures and learn what i can, i dont see the problem whit aitsofters ro a problem whit making a post that the pics look great. That person wetn to the trouble of posting them or even taking them a complement that they look nice is normal then (but only if the look nice ofcourse)

[Bert]

Post count doesn't matter. I've been here since this site started, and look how many posts I have. This guy has been here since Oct of '03, almost as long as I have. I bet you he's seen his fair share of **** around these forums.
Well, if you take a look, I have also been here since october 2003, and I haven't seen these airsoft trolls he keeps seeing. p-)

[Flukeman]

Did you finish high school?? wtf do you know about him maybe he is want to get a nice diploma first. What you say is that everybody who hasnt been in a war zone need to stfu, thats just stupid.

Maybe he's saying that there are some people who have no Military experience and never will who pick holes in things they have never seen for real.

You've either been there, seen it, done it or not and if you haven't been there IMHO you can never speak with complete authority.

..and before you ask...you've guessed it...I've been there, seen it, done it.

Brit Army 73-89 :D

[Ravage]

I agree with victis. I'm not a BTDT, but I'm not a ASG freak. I comment photos cuz' I like them, whats wrong with that ?
I give opinions on some subjects cuz' I can. If you start talking that opinions of those who are not in the military are sh**, then mp. net is going to bee an empty place, full of "boy am I great, better then the rest" etc. etc.
I respect the vets here, but this is a free land ! Or am I wrong ?
Sure, some a$$ will post stupid sh** just to get more on his post counter, but we usually ignore such stupidity. Why can't You ?

RESPECT Amigo p-), remeber, we are on the same side ;)

[deadhorse]

Guys - You should read the entire thread completely....he didn't say you have to be BTDT before making comments. His point is people making comments or flaming about a post or pic when they have no real experience to back up what they are saying. That's all; and frankly, I can agree with that.

[TheBelgian]

As long as they're not trying to start a flame war, then who cares what ppl say? You dont nescesarily have to be in the military to be interested/ knowledgable about it. And if ppl ask or say some stupid or uninformed things, its how we learn.

And speaking of learning, what does BTDT mean, por favor?

[Ravage]

Been There, Done That :)

And I agree with horseeeeee.

[Macs.]

I can get what he's saying, on the other hand, it's not all airsofter's, Blarney causes 85% of this ****, posting his opinion's as if they were fact's, how many time's have I seen him arguing with people over special operation's kit, like he know's wtf he's talking about

I find that extremly funny, if you know that Blarney in Real-Life is that fat kid sitting infront of his computer and talking like a tough-man. (Big man wanted also to close down the Off-Topic forum because it was not military related, while he is just chatting about Softair... Oh well. :roll: )

[Death.]

I find that extremly funny, if you know that Blarney in Real-Life is that fat kid sitting infront of his computer and talking like a tough-man. (Big man wanted also to close down the Off-Topic forum because it was not military related, while he is just chatting about Softair... Oh well. :roll: )

That's airsoft to you Mr. :)

[TacoDelRio]

Some of us are former military or law enforcement and are involved in the airsoft world. If someone says something stupid, calmly let them know, or ignore them.

Have a good one.

[Saranof]

Guys - You should read the entire thread completely....he didn't say you have to be BTDT before making comments. His point is people making comments or flaming about a post or pic when they have no real experience to back up what they are saying. That's all; and frankly, I can agree with that.

That's cool, but I gather his point was also that airsofters tend to do this more than others? I speak for myself when I say that the ones I know either don't give a **** about pointing out small errors in pictures, or are people who are either military or exmilitary or affiliated and have knowlege of it.

[Exer]

We need some photos of airsofters in here!

[ShakesFIST]

We need some photos of airsofters in here!

Theres a whole category of them.

[usm2b]

I am not an airsofter, but I will say that even some real deals don't know **** sometimes. I was at preship weekend for OCS, and there was a Marine and the was the fire team leader for the exercise. I've been to OCS so I have some good basic knowledge, but this guy hasn't but he is still a Marine. ANyway, he was trying to explain the roles of the fireteam Ready Team Fire Assist and what not, and he said the rifleman can carry M243 greande launcher and the saw Fire carries a M260 SAW. I just stood there with a gaping mouth...but he was the fire team leader, and a prior, so I just stood there in utter amazement, but in silence.

Some airsofters do have some good knowledge on identifying accesories on weapon systems such as a scope... but I agree, if you don't know what the hell you are talking about don't say it. On the other hand, your opinion I think should still be voiced. I have no issues with somebody saying, "no I think thats a Marine because he's wearing marpat...but I'm not positive." Ofcourse know who your talking to aswell...no one is going to tell matchanu(sp?) wtf SEAL's do.

[K.Johnston]

so does anyone notice this guy has 27 posts.... probably 9 of which are in this thread alone. why does anyone care what he says... let it drop. Im a former airsofter. yes we realized they're idiots. they dont know jack sh!t... which is why i decided to not drop any more cash on stupid stuff.

let it go man...

[Hypno85]

Some of us are former military or law enforcement and are involved in the airsoft world. If someone says something stupid, calmly let them know, or ignore them.

Have a good one.

Exactly. I tell you for one i get lost when some of the other members post about kits etc.. I dont know alot about kit etc.. but im learning from here and im sure i'll learn even more once i get on some TA trainning courses. Dont let them get to you. if they make a comment which is wrong leave it and move on.

[deadhorse]

That's cool, but I gather his point was also that airsofters tend to do this more than others? I speak for myself when I say that the ones I know either don't give a **** about pointing out small errors in pictures, or are people who are either military or exmilitary or affiliated and have knowlege of it.

I can't speak FOR him, but I think he just used the word/category of "airsofters" in error. I think he just meant people in general who counter point/flame/argue/put down/etc a post or a pic without having REAL knowledge. That is the way I took it. As I said, for that instance, I have to agree with him. There is a lot of ignorance and haters around here, and as MrSkorotsnoy put it, it's best to logically talk it out, or just ignore them. Cheers.

[kaspur_eh]

http://lib.store.yahoo.net/lib/airsoftgunroom/hero.gif

delta?

[usm2b]

He's definitly Delta...I just called... I got an answering machine saying all units are currently deployed in Iraq, Afghanistan, Pakistan, and other various locations.

[ShakesFIST]

He's definitly Delta...I just called... I got an answering machine saying all units are currently deployed in Iraq, Afghanistan, Pakistan, and other various locations.

Don't forget about the OP they have setup near Santa's workshop ;)

[Fargin]

All Deltas have beards and black opsec bars over their eyes, so clearly not.

Here's a real Delta:
http://img117.imageshack.us/img117/9392/omfgdelta111oneone7jk.jpg

[deadhorse]

http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e178/fikays/n736dy.jpg

Delta?

[ruspecnaz]

BS, let me explain to you something. If some guy served for example 10 in US army - it doesn't make him an expert of Russian guns for exmaple. So he's telling us to STFU if we don't know what we talking about, but army doesn't teach you everething so i betcha he don't know even 1% of information from all ppl who post here. So there is why we all here - to share our experience\knoweledge.

[TacoDelRio]

http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e178/fikays/n736dy.jpg

Delta?

That is awesome!

On the topic, alot of airsofters are kids, and kids act dumb because they are kids. We've all been kids, I've been a kid, I'm still a kid anyway. I think it's kinda sorta dumb for someone to play with toys if they're 35, but it's their damn choice, and you just gotta see that.

Here's my take on the whole issue. There are three camps for airsoft-hating: Military, Shooting (firearms), and Airsoft. I've been in all three. I've known many shooters (guns, not SF folks) who badmouth airsoft, but damn, they couldn't run a mile to save their life! I've known plenty of airsoft players who also shoot firearms, and some who are former military. I've trained with several former 11 and 18 series (SF and Infantry) folks, and I also play and train with a bunch of my friends who are Marine 0300 and artillery dudes. They don't hate them, nor do they care about the BS anywhere near as much as internet folks who seem to just stick to the internet.

I was a ground pounder in the Army, I then worked in a gun store for a year after going home, and now I work in an airsoft store. I've seen all sides of the arguement, and they're all retarded. I've met ALOT of airsoft players in all branches of the military, and they are the most level headed folks out there on the issue. Just drink a beer, who gives a sh*t kinda guys who just do their job and have fun while getting a tiny bit of training done.

Overall, on this issue, if it pisses you off, just go grab a beer and relax. Who gives a sh*t if some kid doesn't know if it's an M240B or an M240C? You know what I mean?

Sorry if that was poorly worded. My brain is fried from working with human beings my whole life. :bash:

[ruspecnaz]

We've all been kids, I've been a kid, I'm still a kid anyway. Do you know the difference between kid and man? ) Price of theyr toys )

[TacoDelRio]

Do you know the difference between kid and man? ) Price of theyr toys )

Very good. :)

Kids usually run their mouth off alot more until they get beatdown or go into some group that requires discipline. Some folks never get there though, and you get problems like this.

[Chops]

I do not want to post my pics on here.

And that's why you posted this??

http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/showthread.php?p=1578480#post1578480

[Drako]

I think saying that airosfter have no right to comment pictures cos they didn't serve in a hostile environment is kinds unfair. Just like others have said, it's more about common sense: you don't know what you're talking about - don't speak at all. Airsofters usually know a lot about gear so I see no reason why they shouldn't give their opinions about it. Also I know that there are airsoft groups of adult people which take things seriously and ie. organise trainings with pro's. Reducing them to a group of fat kids just isn't right. Going after you, any soldier who wasn't deployed shouldn't make comments as well.

[Ravage]

Speaking of kids, I have a friend that sees DELTA everywere. He's a airsofter BTW ;)
I ounce showd hem a pick of RANGERs in that SOCOM ex. when they were on "Little Birds", he thinks the pick is about DELTA p-)
No matter what I tell him, he still sees DELTA everywhere........

[dacanadianbomb]

I definately dont wish to be brushed off as a fat kid sitting behind a computer screen.
Or saying I spend so much money I cant get laid.
Fing store manager eh ? Bling bling big spenda!

And I dont like peeps with 0 experience/information coming on and making a A$$ image for us airsofters because their head is full of shyte.

If I talk out my ass , Im fair game.

With that beeing said, we have a very tolerating group of BTDT's here, who dont give us grieve everytime we post anywhere.
The 10% mark, is more like 40% or so in airsoft, mainly because of the age,and sometimes peoples inability to discern reality from dreams.
ON the other hand we have had in the past some experiences with BTDT's, that have had a ****ty atittude, and thought they knew it all.And they were bounced by the other BTDT'S here.

One thing that many share in common is no trying to garner any information on a subject before commenting.
It does not make you experienced, but at least it makes you a bit more informed.

The best example statement PMC's = Mercenaries

The above was not to start a discussion , it was to illustrate a point.

[dagawebb]

Chops, Yes I did make the post asking how I can create a USER SUBMITTED photo collection, look at the date. Since I made that post I have decided NOT to post photos because of what I have posted above. Thanks for reminding me of the post greatly appreciated. See you late

[Hollis]

Well, I like most the airsofters, gamers and re-enacter, most are some pretty sharp people. Not all are kids as in less than 18. Probably some FOGs in that group.

Looks at every group like it was the Human body, there will be a a$$hole and a prick but the rest is pretty good. Same with vets and FOGs vets.

Having a interest in something is NO sin. I have learned a lot from all sorts of people here. Some Airsofters, some gamers, some vets, some civies, some I am not sure what planet they came from, But I have learned from them too.

Biggest thing is not to feed to trolls, and to learn to just ignore them.

I am on some tightly run military forums also. No forum is completely 5 by 5. Enjoy the forum for what it is.

Again there are some really good people on here.

[Ngati Tumatauenga]

I cant see what your problem with "AIRSOFTERS" is. I'm not here 24/7, but I've never seen one cause any trouble in the mainstream forums. On the contrary, they stay in their lane, and we stay in ours.

It seems that you don't like the culture that this site has. The fact is not everyone is going to be satisfied with a site as complex as this. Such is life. There are a couple of options open to you,
1. Suck it up.
2. Leave.

I agree that there are a growing number of wannabe ghostrecon/OFP/SOCOm playing etc, idiots who like to pontificate about that which they obviously have no experience in whatsoever, I have been confronting them head on where ever i've found them since my first post here. But hey, its a public forum, EVERBODY has a right to air their views, even the idiots. Besides its kinda carthartic to shoot them down.

At the end of the day this is a privately owned site.

Hood owns it.

Hood decides what the rules are, no doubt in consultation with the mods, and implements them.

Hood delegates authority to police it to the ten moderators.

If you have a problem with the way things are run, then contact Hood and state your case, because no-one else here has the absolute power to make the kind of changes that you seek.

[DeltaWhisky58]

Chops, Yes I did make the post asking how I can create a USER SUBMITTED photo collection, look at the date. Since I made that post I have decided NOT to post photos because of what I have posted above. Thanks for reminding me of the post greatly appreciated. See you late

FFS! Get over yourself. :bash:

[Chops]

Yes not exactly the case that you've posted many nuggets yourself is it sport but pretty happy to take shots at the youngsters? And if you are what you claim to be, which I doubt looking at your IP logs, I'm pretty bloody surprised by your behaviour.

[Durandal]

http://homepage.mac.com/thesw0rdofroland/.Pictures/Photo%20Album%20Pictures/2006-03-20%2020.11.35%20-0800/Image-9754E452B89011DA.jpg

You have got be ƒucking kidding me...

[foxtrot023]

This reminded me of the stavka toonshttp://img96.exs.cx/img96/1007/airsofters.jpg

[Bia]

Just so I know....is airsoft paintball....or no?
If no....can someone give me a brief layout?

Thanks.

BTW...I have played regular ole paintball 4 times.....was fun but yeah....stings like hell!

;)

[DeltaWhisky58]

Just so I know....is airsoft paintball....or no?
If no....can someone give me a brief layout?

Thanks.

BTW...I have played regular ole paintball 4 times.....was fun but yeah....stings like hell!

;)

No! p-)

[Fargin]

I was thinking how about some of the real high speed, hardcore real deal SEALs, Deltas and SASs post their personal pictures in the Airsoft forum saying: 'I just got a new rig and a new marker' and then the airsofters could say: 'That's not airsoft that a real Delta, f*** off you poser.'

[Freibier]

Just so I know....is airsoft paintball....or no?
If no....can someone give me a brief layout?

Thanks.

BTW...I have played regular ole paintball 4 times.....was fun but yeah....stings like hell!

;) Airsoft is like playing paintball with cotton balls & costumes p-)

[Drako]

Just so I know....is airsoft paintball....or no?
If no....can someone give me a brief layout?

Thanks.

BTW...I have played regular ole paintball 4 times.....was fun but yeah....stings like hell!

;)

Airsoft is similar to paintball, but is played with guns looking like real ones and firing plastic 6 mm (or 8 mm) balls. It's also based on fair-play rule cos unlike in paintball, a hit doesn't leave any marks (well, not on the clothes at least;)). Players usually wear real deal equipment - the more realistic you look the better.

[gotalliwanted]

y don't u get over ur self so ur in sand box big deal i did 2 tours there! just because sum 1 did not serve dosent give u the right rip into them GROW UP

[DeltaWhisky58]

y don't u get over ur self so ur in sand box big deal i did 2 tours there! just because sum 1 did not serve dosent give u the right rip into them GROW UP

Any chance you might make your next post in Enlgish?

[Durandal]

y don't u get over ur self so ur in sand box big deal i did 2 tours there! just because sum 1 did not serve dosent give u the right rip into them GROW UP

I think your comment would have been far more effective if it didn't appear to be written by a 15 year old XBox junkie.

English man....use it!

[DeltaWhisky58]

I think your comment would have been far more effective if it didn't appear to be written by a 15 year old XBox junkie.

English man....use it!

I think it probably was written by a 15yo X-box junkie who likes to masquerade as a veteran. Or maybe just a semi-literate veteran who is rather full of himself!

[Digital Marine]

Is this thread still not dead?:|


Can't it just be locked, DW58?