Invention: Password-protected bullets

[antispammer]

Password-protected bullets

Safety catches do not always prevent firearm accidents and even newfangled biometric guns, which check the identity of a user by their fingerprint, cannot stop thieves from using stolen ammunition in other weapons.

The way to make firearms really safe, says Hebert Meyerle of Germany, is to password-protect the ammunition itself.

Meyerle is patenting a design for a modified cartridge that would be fired by a burst of high-frequency radio energy. But the energy would only ignite the charge if a solid-state switch within the cartridge had been activated. This would only happen if a password entered into the gun using a tiny keypad matched one stored in the cartridge.

When they are sold, cartridges could be programmed with a password that matches the purchaser's gun. An owner could set the gun to request the password when it is reloaded, or to perform a biometric check before firing. The gun could also automatically lock itself after a pre-set period of time has passed since the password was entered.

The system would undoubtedly cost more than a conventional gun, but many firearm enthusiasts would surely pay a premium for such added security.

http://www.newscientisttech.com/article/dn9412-invention-passwordprotected-bullets.html

[GeraldDuval]

http://www.med.und.nodak.edu/users/jwhiting/trigextend.JPG

this here's my safety...

[StukaJr]

The system would undoubtedly cost more than a conventional gun, but many firearm enthusiasts would surely pay a premium for such added security.

Que the rolling tumbleweeds...

I didn't know that science fiction could get patented - it's also not an invention until it actually exists in a prototype form or proven to work - just like one can't patent a cure for cancer just by stating that they'll come up with a way to cure it...

These quacks give "science" a bad name

[22.5degrees]

You can't legislate common sense... A complete waste of time this idea is. Maybe we should password protect gasoline for the same reasons?! EDUCATION AND TRAINING are what prevents intelligent people from getting shot.

22.5

[K.Johnston]

and what happens when your gun gets stolen and used against you...

he h4x3d meh Gu|\|!!!11

[Rakki]

say the magic word and the gun won't fire!

[American Patriot]

The system would undoubtedly cost more than a conventional gun, but many firearm enthusiasts would surely pay a premium for such added security.

Surely you jest!

[Macs.]

You can't legislate common sense... A complete waste of time this idea is. Maybe we should password protect gasoline for the same reasons?! EDUCATION AND TRAINING are what prevents intelligent people from getting shot.

22.5´

I don't get your point.

Following your definition every human who has been shot is stupid...

From what I understood this is to prevent other people operating your gun, and I think this invention/patent is a good idea, just think about the possibilties. I could imagine it for policemen. (Especially during Riots)

[American Patriot]

I wonder what Jeff Cooper thinks of this.. seriously, this is stupid, a weapon that you trust to protect your life shouldn't have electronic safeties and other crap that can and will fail when you need to use it most

[StukaJr]

Meyerle is patenting a design for a modified cartridge that would be fired by a burst of high-frequency radio energy. But the energy would only ignite the charge if a solid-state switch within the cartridge had been activated. This would only happen if a password entered into the gun using a tiny keypad matched one stored in the cartridge.

http://img62.imageshack.us/img62/6560/asafesig9ow.jpg

I'm feeling so much safer.

[Macs.]

Well, you can talk everything bad...

[RussDill]

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I don't get your point.

Following your definition every human who has been shot is stupid...

From what I understood this is to prevent other people operating your gun, and I think this invention/patent is a good idea, just think about the possibilties. I could imagine it for policemen. (Especially during Riots)

ever hear of a lanyard? A large number of people who use weapons for personal self defense prefer to use a weapon without manual safeties as well as having a round chambered whenever the weapon is carried.

The reason for this is that a personal self defense firearm is an order of magnitude more useful when you have the advantage of surprise. Any situation where you have time to work a special lock is a situation you could probably run away from.

[22.5degrees]

´

I don't get your point.

Following your definition every human who has been shot is stupid...

From what I understood this is to prevent other people operating your gun, and I think this invention/patent is a good idea, just think about the possibilties. I could imagine it for policemen. (Especially during Riots)


My point was; With proper training and education both shooters(civilian, LE and MIL) and non shooters alike can completely avoid negligent discharges. As for getting shot by some punk ass gangbangers driving by, well there's not much you can do, except maybe return fire.

I don't see the benefit of further reducing the speed of deployment on an officers firearm. Again, with proper training and some common sense a good portion of the "gun grabs" that take place can be avoided.

22.5

[ArmedPacifist]

http://codemonkey.sunsite.dk/projects/maxpayne/images/lawgiver.jpg

[Michael RVR]

http://www.med.und.nodak.edu/users/jwhiting/trigextend.JPG

this here's my safety...

Fark you've got girly hands
p-)

[Zvucni Efekti]

http://www.stylebakery.com/images/tempting_treats/2005/itsaboutmeimage.gif

But seriously, they should invent magical bullets which are able to sense if a person is "good" or "bad" and hurt them as the situation warrents. :roll:

[Geezah]

The system would undoubtedly cost more than a conventional gun, but many firearm enthusiasts would surely pay a premium for such added security.

For some reason, I doubt he actually owns any firearm.............

[supercontra]

Q: How dead will you be before having entered the password in event of a gunfight?
A: Very

[caleb]

But seriously, they should invent magical bullets which are able to sense if a person is "good" or "bad" and hurt them as the situation warrents. :roll:

Actually, a similiar programm is currently in developement within the German Bundeswehr for the "Infanterist der zukunft" project, executed by Rheinmetall Defense Systems.

It's not magical bullets, but rather a tranponder <-> receiver type of thing:

Basic Demonstrator Soldier (ZEFF)

http://www.rheinmetall-defence.com/img/product/oc_ZEABaS.jpg

The ZEFF basic demonstrator soldier is a DSID (dismounted soldier identification device) version to demonstrate the capabilities of a STANAG 4630 compliant identification system. The DSID identification principle is based on laser query and RF radio reply.

ZEBaS consists of the following components:
- Interrogator (typically hand weapon mounted)
- Transponder (shoulder or helmet worn)
- Keyboard

The laser of the interrogator will be pointed on an object to be identified. After triggering an identification cycle, the interrogator generates sequences which are send out by a coded laser beam. If there is a transponder within the laser beam it receives and validates the interrogation message. In case of a valid interrogation the transponder sends out a coded RF reply message. The message is received by the interrogator. In case of a valid reply message it indicates the result "friend".

Main features
Reliable friend identification for dismounted soldiers or vehicles
Encrypted communication on the laser and radio link
STANAG 4630 compliantTechnical data

Identification time: < 1 s
Identification range: up to 2,200 m

[GoSka37]

::man pulls trigger ::
"Password please"

"Ugh"

"Ugh not recognised ... password please"

"Fumpbpaha"

"unrecognised Password please "

"FUZZY WUMPKINS!"

"Authorization granted, enjoy your shooting!

[Laworkerbee]

Some damned good laughs in the thread thanks Fella's

[paul13usa]

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[Createdeemcee]

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Buwahahahaha!

[Hollis]

damn funny Thread, a great read, Thanks for those with humor.

[Limeyfellow]

About the only situration really where this is useful is the police and jail guards where they can get people reaching for their firearms, especially like what happened in Atlanta where the guard was overpowered and the judge shot. Of course that happened due to bad practices where one small female guard was escorting a known violent rapist without even the aid of handcuffs. Might work for some security guards too and that sort of role.

For the general public though the idea is just not practable.

[Kerpan]

Password-protected bullets

Safety catches do not always prevent firearm accidents and even newfangled biometric guns, which check the identity of a user by their fingerprint, cannot stop thieves from using stolen ammunition in other weapons.

The way to make firearms really safe, says Hebert Meyerle of Germany, is to password-protect the ammunition itself.

Meyerle is patenting a design for a modified cartridge that would be fired by a burst of high-frequency radio energy. But the energy would only ignite the charge if a solid-state switch within the cartridge had been activated. This would only happen if a password entered into the gun using a tiny keypad matched one stored in the cartridge.

When they are sold, cartridges could be programmed with a password that matches the purchaser's gun. An owner could set the gun to request the password when it is reloaded, or to perform a biometric check before firing. The gun could also automatically lock itself after a pre-set period of time has passed since the password was entered.

The system would undoubtedly cost more than a conventional gun, but many firearm enthusiasts would surely pay a premium for such added security.

or you could just have password protected universal trigger locks for a wide variety of firearms. don't they already have those and isn't that much more practical than buying an expensive gun that fires presumably expensive ammo?

[akmarksman]

Actually, a similiar programm is currently in developement within the German Bundeswehr for the "Infanterist der zukunft" project, executed by Rheinmetall Defense Systems.

It's not magical bullets, but rather a tranponder <-> receiver type of thing:

Basic Demonstrator Soldier (ZEFF)

http://www.rheinmetall-defence.com/img/product/oc_ZEABaS.jpg

The ZEFF basic demonstrator soldier is a DSID (dismounted soldier identification device) version to demonstrate the capabilities of a STANAG 4630 compliant identification system. The DSID identification principle is based on laser query and RF radio reply.

ZEBaS consists of the following components:
- Interrogator (typically hand weapon mounted)
- Transponder (shoulder or helmet worn)
- Keyboard

The laser of the interrogator will be pointed on an object to be identified. After triggering an identification cycle, the interrogator generates sequences which are send out by a coded laser beam. If there is a transponder within the laser beam it receives and validates the interrogation message. In case of a valid interrogation the transponder sends out a coded RF reply message. The message is received by the interrogator. In case of a valid reply message it indicates the result "friend".

Main features
Reliable friend identification for dismounted soldiers or vehicles
Encrypted communication on the laser and radio link
STANAG 4630 compliantTechnical data

Identification time: < 1 s
Identification range: up to 2,200 m

But does the soldier get XM sat. radio?