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NcDeuce
03-23-2004, 10:09 PM
War hero faces setbacks back home

FORT CAMPBELL, KY. -- In combat, Army Spc. Dwayne Turner was a hero. Back home from Iraq, his life has been in shambles.

Just last month the 101st Airborne Division soldier was honored with the prestigious Silver Star medal for saving at least two lives in combat. Today he is out of the Army, driving a borrowed car and sleeping at a friend's house.

The smile he beamed at the medal ceremony masked months of problems he says he had since returning home with battle wounds: a suicide attempt along with flashbacks and nightmares so bad he resorted to binge drinking to fall asleep.

"I kind of felt like I was blowing in the wind pretty much," said Turner, 23, of Indianapolis, who was an Army medic.

After going AWOL for two days and smoking marijuana while drunk, he said he got a general discharge from the Army rather than an honorable discharge.

That means he is not eligible for at least $40,000 in college funding he expected to receive. The Army also demoted him from specialist to private before his discharge.

The Army will not comment on the circumstances surrounding Turner's discharge because it is an administrative issue, said Master Sgt. Kelly Tyler, a public affairs officer at Fort Campbell, 50 miles north of Nashville.

Turner, who still walks with a limp, said his problems relate to his struggles back home after the war.

"They don't understand," he said. "They think you're pretty much supposed to be normal when you come back from war, and I don't understand that."

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Growing up, Turner loved watching physicians change people's lives on medical shows on television. At 18 he signed on to be an Army medic and became known as "Doc" to his Army buddies.

Last year, he deployed for major combat in Iraq with the 101st's 3rd Battalion, 502nd Infantry Regiment. He was in his element as he treated wounded American soldiers, prisoners of war and Iraqi civilians.

"I loved my job," Turner said. "I loved my guys."

Then, on April 13, he was with comrades in a crowded area south of Baghdad when assailants shot at the soldiers and threw grenades.

Turner treated 16 of the soldiers as the attack continued even though he had shrapnel wounds in both legs and was shot at least twice in the limbs.

"He is a bona fide hero. He saved two lives without question," Brig. Gen. Frank Helmick, who awarded Turner the Silver Star, the third highest award given for actions in combat, said to reporters at the February ceremony.

A beaming Turner was modest.

"I don't consider myself a hero at all," he said that day in the commanding general's office at Fort Campbell. "I just figured everybody was going to come home and nobody was going to die on my watch."

Solomon Abraham, 23, of St. Louis, who is out of the Army now but was in Iraq with Turner, said everyone was in awe of what Turner did and shocked about his injuries because he had always seemed so invincible.

"Words can not even explain how everybody felt," Abraham said. "And it was like shocking that would happen to Doc."

He came back to Fort Campbell without his comrades. Turner said after a couple weeks of hospital treatment, he felt guilty for leaving them behind. He also had flashbacks and anxiety. Eating at McDonald's, he would worry the restaurant would be robbed.

Turner said he sought mental health counseling offered by the Army, and psychiatrists diagnosed him with acute stress disorder and post traumatic stress. He was set to get out of the Army on a medical discharge, he said.

The Army would not comment on Turner's medical records, citing privacy.

Last summer, things got worse for Turner. His grandfather died and he was having problems with his ex-wife, who is the mother of his 2-year-old son.

Everything was too much to handle, and he stopped showing up for duty at Fort Campbell. He was declared AWOL from the Army, according to paperwork he provided.

"I wasn't planning on coming back," Turner said. "I thought I was gone for good."

Drinking one night, he contemplated suicide and cut his wrist. Changing his mind, he treated the wound himself. Embarrassed, he covered up the wound with gauze and hid it with his watch.

Drunk at a party, he said, he smoked a cigar that he said he did not know had the tobacco inside replaced with marijuana. But a friend persuaded him to go back to the Army.

"It wasn't me. I was always pretty honorable and things like that," Turner said. "I can't run away from my problems, I need to face it."

Given an Army drug test _ standard after a soldier goes AWOL _ he tested positive for marijuana.

He said he wishes now that things had turned out differently. But given his state of mind, he's not sure he would not go AWOL again in the same circumstances.

"I wasn't there. There was too much turmoil. I'm pretty sure with my state of mind if it happened all again the same way, I'd probably do the same thing over again," Turner said.

"It was all really just too much for one person to handle and come out OK all the time. Everybody has their breaking point."

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Barbara Turner of Indianapolis said the Army should have given her son an honorable discharge.

"He's a nice guy and I think he's getting a raw deal," Barbara Turner said. "He fought for other people and fought for a dream for his future. That was the only way for him to get the opportunity."

Tyler, the public affairs officer, said the Army weighs all aspects of a soldier's conduct when determining the type of discharge.

"The Army is responsible for a great number of things, but some of this has to come down to individual responsibility," Tyler said.

Turner said he has stopped the heavy drinking.

He has gotten a part-time job as an aide at Jennie Stuart Medical Center in Hopkinsville, 15 miles north of Fort Campbell, and he is hoping to soon begin taking classes at Austin Peay State University in Clarksville, Tenn.

He thinks he would like to be a psychiatrist, even though he has a long road ahead of him. After all he has been through, he said he now would like to help people with their own mental problems.

"I kind of understand," he said.

If you remember, just a few weeks ago...this man won the Silver Star for his actions in Iraq. Sad story...what do you guys think about the discharge?

Sean85
03-23-2004, 10:38 PM
i think the Army may have went too far, he messed up but the Army ruined the life he was looking forward to after the Army

James
03-24-2004, 12:33 AM
I have no problem with how he was treated. In my day, getting stoned earned on a Bad COnduct Discharge and 45 days in the brig. This guy got off relatively easy.

Royal
03-24-2004, 08:03 AM
I have no problem with how he was treated. In my day, getting stoned earned on a Bad COnduct Discharge and 45 days in the brig. This guy got off relatively easy.

Not often I disagree with you, but here I do!

The UK armed forces had a huge problem with PTSD/Battle stress in the aftermath of the Falklands, something that I'd thought the US had addressed to a large extent after Vietnam.

The old idea that Combat Stress sufferers should be given a slap and told to get on with it (or even tied to a post and shot) has been totaly discredited, as has the slur of cowardice.

For those still serving psyciatric care has improved immesurably with the first Gulf war, the campaigns in the Balkans and to a lesser extent NI. For those who have left it is improving, the British Legion (and the NHS) help many, but they need to ask for that help.

The rates of suicide, alcohol/drug abuse, self harm and homelessness are still dreadfull for veterans, but they are improving as problems are recognised.

Like James, I have no time for drug users in the armed forces, but sometimes even the bravest (especially the bravest?) men and women make a cry for help. It should be recognised for what it is and treated with the compassion it deserves.

cold0
03-24-2004, 09:40 AM
Like James, I have no time for drug users in the armed forces, but sometimes even the bravest (especially the bravest?) men and women make a cry for help. It should be recognised for what it is and treated with the compassion it deserves.

100% agree.

WARPIG
03-24-2004, 10:05 AM
The Army isn't what failed this guy. His leadership did. They are the ones responsible for looking after thier soldiers. If I have a troop with problems like that.. I would expect something stupid to happen. Getting tested positive for marijuana is not an automatic discharge. Busted for sure but counseling has to happen. Being AWOL isn't an instant boot either. The soldier has to express a refusal or inability to become a contributing soldier again. If this medic had a NCO that was worth a ****.. they would have been in a great position to realize it. Especially if he was a medic. There were ample officers and NCO's trained in the right field to see that he was in need of help. The Army didn't shaft the man.. he screwed up and his leadership didn't have the integrity to intervene. Sad.

Royal
03-24-2004, 11:38 AM
The Army didn't shaft the man.. he screwed up and his leadership didn't have the integrity to intervene. Sad.

Hear, hear :(

James
03-25-2004, 12:53 AM
I agree with the idea that his leadership failed him. Troop welfare is very important. My original thoughts were driven by the idea that he had turned hic back on his friends and his unit, and I do not like that. However, he was involved in some things during the war that I never experienced while I was in the service, so I will say no more on the subject.

It isn't my place. :|

11F5S
03-25-2004, 07:49 AM
He came back to Fort Campbell without his comrades. Turner said after a couple weeks of hospital treatment, he felt guilty for leaving them behind. He also had flashbacks and anxiety. Eating at McDonald's, he would worry the restaurant would be robbed.

Turner said he sought mental health counseling offered by the Army, and psychiatrists diagnosed him with acute stress disorder and post traumatic stress. He was set to get out of the Army on a medical discharge, he said.


The Army isn't what failed this guy. His leadership did. They are the ones responsible for looking after thier soldiers.

Based on what the article said I'd say the "The Army" not only failed him but it closed it's eyes and mind and screwed him. Starting with his leadership and right on up the COC...They are the ARMY.



The Army didn't shaft the man.. he screwed up and his leadership didn't have the integrity to intervene. Sad.

The man was suffering from PSTD, and really shouldn't be held accountable and punished for his actions as if he were mentally stable.

WARPIG
03-25-2004, 09:43 AM
He came back to Fort Campbell without his comrades. Turner said after a couple weeks of hospital treatment, he felt guilty for leaving them behind. He also had flashbacks and anxiety. Eating at McDonald's, he would worry the restaurant would be robbed.

Turner said he sought mental health counseling offered by the Army, and psychiatrists diagnosed him with acute stress disorder and post traumatic stress. He was set to get out of the Army on a medical discharge, he said.


The Army isn't what failed this guy. His leadership did. They are the ones responsible for looking after thier soldiers.

Based on what the article said I'd say the "The Army" not only failed him but it closed it's eyes and mind and screwed him. Starting with his leadership and right on up the COC...They are the ARMY.



The Army didn't shaft the man.. he screwed up and his leadership didn't have the integrity to intervene. Sad.

The man was suffering from PSTD, and really shouldn't be held accountable and punished for his actions as if he were mentally stable.
The Army is pretty big. The machine that deals with this sort of thing doesn't have the ability to single this guy out and see if he is being screwed over. That is why his leadership is responsible for letting the Army know that his case is different. The Army doesn't just see an AWOL apprehension report and go.."oh..it's SPC Doe. This doesn't make sense." The people who are commisioned to be responsible for him should have let the Army know what was going on. Now, a board should have seen that something more than a typical AWOL and drug violation exists. Also, I have seen the UCMJ and Manual of Court Martial at work several times. The soldier is given a lot of opportunity to turn things around. This guy had PTSD and granted, normal things can become pretty hairy. Unbearable even. But he wasn't schizophrenic. He does share in the responsibility of his actions. His leadership failed him. And technically, the Army did too. One thing to keep in mind.. when a soldier is counseled prior to punative action for AWOL or drug violations.. the soldier is given the opportunity to reinsert themselves into the military. If help and counsel is available, the soldier requests it, and if the soldier is deemed rehabitable.. discharge can be waived. He got screwed over.. no doubt.. but don't assume he was completely clean on this either.

Mechanical Ambush
03-25-2004, 12:42 PM
That story could be about any Vietnam Vet......been there, done that. :(