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Red
03-24-2004, 01:47 AM
http://grouchymedia.com/other_videos/american_heroes/download.cfm

Sleeping Sun
03-24-2004, 09:03 AM
Now that's a great propaganda video! Though I have to admit I was a bit dissapointed not seeing the US flag every five seconds... you know, like in the movie Armageddon. I watched the vid for about two minutes... and that was only because I liked the music.

ChuckThunder
03-24-2004, 09:18 AM
http://grouchymedia.com/other_videos/american_heroes/download.cfm

Great video. But, "N.A.V.Y." - what the hell is that? :roll:

shrek
03-24-2004, 09:58 AM
Hey, Sleeping Sun, did you like it or not. Stop being so shy and just tell us!

Sleeping Sun
03-24-2004, 11:09 AM
Nope... that's why I only watched for roughly two minutes.

The film was made for americans by americans so I can't understand it. It showed what the general public in the US wants to see. The soldiers as noble heros and liberators. Fighting and dying (in Iraq) for a noble cause and for the freedom of all Americans as well.

An American journalist once said -The Americans see the world as they want to see it, the Europeans see the world as it is

Liked the music though. Any idea who made it.

Pille1234
03-24-2004, 11:35 AM
Liked the music though. Any idea who made it.

I think it's enya, don't know the song name though

shrek
03-24-2004, 11:40 AM
Nope... that's why I only watched for roughly two minutes.

The film was made for americans by americans so I can't understand it. (what can’t you understand?) It showed what the general public in the US wants to see (not wants to see, needs to see, how else do you think we keep our military strong with recruits?). The soldiers as noble heroes and liberators. Fighting and dying (in Iraq) for a noble cause and for the freedom of all Americans as well. (do you believe that it was not a noble cause, your thoughts..)

An American journalist once said -The Americans see the world as they want to see it, the Europeans see the world as it is ( do you not believe that the Europeans do not use Prop. Films?)

Undo
03-24-2004, 11:45 AM
Nope... that's why I only watched for roughly two minutes.

The film was made for americans by americans so I can't understand it. It showed what the general public in the US wants to see. The soldiers as noble heros and liberators. Fighting and dying (in Iraq) for a noble cause and for the freedom of all Americans as well.

An American journalist once said -The Americans see the world as they want to see it, the Europeans see the world as it is

Liked the music though. Any idea who made it.

Whatever. If that is propaganda then any picture of a soldier is propaganda. Besides, there were brits in it, too. Making a mountain out of a molehill.

2Sheds_Jackson
03-24-2004, 12:29 PM
Nope... that's why I only watched for roughly two minutes.

The film was made for americans by americans so I can't understand it. It showed what the general public in the US wants to see. The soldiers as noble heros and liberators. Fighting and dying (in Iraq) for a noble cause and for the freedom of all Americans as well..
What do you expect from a video billed as "American Heroes -Another great tribute to the real American Heroes out there! " ? You want to see the Austrian Navy? Teletubbies?

To expect a promotional video to illustrate a negative image is also bit odd, no? Why whould anyone do that?



An American journalist once said -The Americans see the world as they want to see it, the Europeans see the world as it is

Ah yes, the great Enlightened Europeans, so lofty, so all knowing, so superior to we unwashed trolls in America. Exactly when does one's DNA mutate, when moving from Europe to America? I mean, since Europe settled America & all, wen did we dun git all steewpid 'n all? Lordy, it jus' hapenned ot me raght naw! Dang it awl...

Sleeping Sun
03-24-2004, 01:46 PM
(do you believe that it was not a noble cause

Lying to the whole world to get oil and strenghten military position in the Mid-East... not exactly my idea of doing a noble thing!


An American journalist once said -The Americans see the world as they want to see it, the Europeans see the world as it is ( do you not believe that the Europeans do not use Prop. Films?)

aaaaaaaaarrrrrrrgggggghhhhhh....arghhggh :cantbeli: I'm too damn tired of trying to explain that to you. Try to figure out what it actually means...

2Sheds_Jackson
03-24-2004, 03:05 PM
....and there it is

shrek
03-24-2004, 03:28 PM
Hey Sun, act like I'm the ignorant baffoon that I believe you think I am and explain, in your words, what the "American" Journalists remarks meant.
We have never spoken of this before, so there is no way that you could have tried to explain it to me. ;-)

Travis
03-24-2004, 03:29 PM
THere was one pic of royal marines in that video... :D

George W. Bush
03-24-2004, 03:34 PM
(do you believe that it was not a noble cause

Lying to the whole world to get oil and strenghten military position in the Mid-East... not exactly my idea of doing a noble thing!

Do I detect a smidge of jealousy? I'm going to go take an oil bath now, bye.

RomanS
03-24-2004, 04:41 PM
Great video

Sleeping Sun is a fag

Marmot1
03-24-2004, 04:55 PM
Great video

Sleeping Sun is a fag
like you...

George W. Bush
03-24-2004, 05:00 PM
Give Sleeping Sun a break! Just because he is an apathetic rabid anti-American it doesn't mean he's a "fag"!

RomanS
03-24-2004, 05:03 PM
could be true

but


Marmot is ultra Gay

Marmot1
03-24-2004, 05:08 PM
could be true

but


Marmot is ultra Gay

WOW now you are homophobe too... and what's your boyfriend's reaction on this??? Does he still love you?

I must disapoint you but I am 100% hetero

anonymous individual
03-24-2004, 05:17 PM
rofl

gorg
03-24-2004, 06:27 PM
It kind of sucked.. the first thing in the movie was the text American Heroes and WHY WE ARE HERE, and it never really answered that. No picture of Americans helping civilians at all.

RomanS
03-24-2004, 06:31 PM
another fag

Stavka
03-24-2004, 06:37 PM
another fag

No thanks, I gave up smoking quite a while ago... Oh... sorry...
[/britishmode]

RomanS
03-24-2004, 06:41 PM
loloooool

Elmo
03-24-2004, 06:53 PM
Hilarious! It was sooo emotional with them brave men and machine guns. I almost expected Eric Cartman or other South Park characters to show up.

mustamato
03-24-2004, 06:53 PM
Hilarious! It was sooo emotional with them brave men and machine guns. I almost expected Eric Cartman or other South Park characters to show up.

HAHAHA.

Stavka
03-24-2004, 06:57 PM
The flags... the waving... it... it's... hyp... hypnot... hypnotic... must... eat... doughnut... must... invade... something... gotta... go... invade...closet... :|

RomanS
03-24-2004, 06:59 PM
Hilarious! It was sooo emotional with them brave men and machine guns. I almost expected Eric Cartman or other South Park characters to show up.

yep,
JEALOUS

Does it hurt that Finland can't make videos like that ? If they did, lol could you imagine what joke it would be?

America's military is mighty powerful, and they have all the rights to make videos of their warriors.

What would the Finish version be like? A bunch of blond mommy boys with pink cheeks playing in the snow with your Swedish boyfriends Ace of Base soundtrack.

5jumpchump
03-24-2004, 07:00 PM
To all who think we invaded Iraq so we could get oil i have one question . If we wanted oil so badly then why didn't we just take over Iraq in the first war ? Never mind don't answer i can't bear the truth rofl
You right we DID do it for oil , but what are you going to do about it ?
Hey , aren't we low on cheese ( take binos and looks towards Europe ) rofl :D rofl

RomanS
03-24-2004, 07:06 PM
To all who think we invaded Iraq so we could get oil i have one question . If we wanted oil so badly then why didn't we just take over Iraq in the first war ? Never mind don't answer i can't bear the truth rofl
You right we DID do it for oil , but what are you going to do about it ?
Hey , aren't we low on cheese ( take binos and looks towards Europe ) rofl :D rofl
BRAVO BRAVO BRAVO !!!!

For you bro
http://www.edirectory.co.uk/pf/images/products/938/images/stolichnaya.jpg

Dalleer
03-24-2004, 07:07 PM
What would the Finish version be like? A bunch of blond mommy boys with pink cheeks playing in the snow with your Swedish boyfriends Ace of Base soundtrack.

Ehm, that would be kinda "cool", especially for a nation that beat your asses during WWII.

http://www.torsb.bollnas.se/filer/sidor/indonesia/bilder/Hambob1C.jpg

This one should be featured on the vid as well

5jumpchump
03-24-2004, 07:09 PM
LOL rofl that's good stuff , a Finn talking **** about American Army with an avitar from America's Army rofl rofl rofl

Elmo
03-24-2004, 07:10 PM
Does it hurt that Finland can't make videos like that ? If they did, lol could you imagine what joke it would be?

America's military is mighty powerful, and they have all the rights to make videos of their warriors.

What would the Finish version be like? A bunch of blond mommy boys with pink cheeks playing in the snow with your Swedish boyfriends Ace of Base soundtrack.

No, doesn't hurt. I'm not a blind patriot with a gun fetish, nor do I worship the Finnish army.

We think differently. For you seeing a squashed skull is funny (Hamas leader thread), I think it's gross. You like to post pics of nukes (pretty phalllic, huh?) I find nukes the most insane thing ever.

And I am not homophobic. Hell, I even might be gay, who knows?

Dalleer
03-24-2004, 07:11 PM
LOL rofl that's good stuff , a Finn talking **** about American Army with an avitar from America's Army rofl rofl rofl

Ehm, who said anything about the American army?

I don't really have anything against the US armed forces, but my post was more or less directed to the Russian here who's got more than enough of opinions to share...

Hell, I think I like Wisconsin the most out of all the US states.

I bet you'd think I would like Minnesota or something? Nah, man....

RomanS
03-24-2004, 07:12 PM
I dont' give a **** about your excuses anymore!

I will behave good untill your assholes open your mouth. I tried peacfully, but it didnt go well, so no more peace.

You BARK

I BITE

Marmot1
03-24-2004, 07:14 PM
I dont' give a **** about your excuses anymore!

I will behave good untill your assholes open your mouth. I tried peacfully, but it didnt go well, so no more peace.

You BARK

I BITE
Do you need someone to talk to? Maybe I should call you so you can experss what hurts you...

5jumpchump
03-24-2004, 07:19 PM
LOL rofl that's good stuff , a Finn talking **** about American Army with an avitar from America's Army rofl rofl rofl

Ehm, who said anything about the American army?

I don't really have anything against the US armed forces, but my post was more or less directed to the Russian here who's got more than enough of opinions to share...

My bad bro , my bad :cantbeli:

Stavka
03-24-2004, 07:22 PM
Hilarious! It was sooo emotional with them brave men and machine guns. I almost expected Eric Cartman or other South Park characters to show up.

yep,
JEALOUS

Does it hurt that Finland can't make videos like that ? If they did, lol could you imagine what joke it would be?

America's military is mighty powerful, and they have all the rights to make videos of their warriors.



Jeeeesus f***ing christ Permskii, are you praising the US armed forces? I really thought better of you. Whatever happened to all we acheived during the cold war? Am I the only one who misses the red buttons on each side, complete with shiny signs reading "NUKE RUSSIAN COMMIE SWINE" and "NUKE YANK CAPITALIST DOGS" respectively?! Jesus Christ on rollerskates! What is the world coming to!
You better change your awry ways my Ivan friend our next thing we know you will be sitting in a circle with Chechens, Israelis, Yanks, Palestinians, Baptists and ill-tempered accountants, holding hands and singing old "Jefferson Ariplane" songs and sharing a big, massive "spliff of peace"!




What would the Finish version be like? A bunch of blond mommy boys with pink cheeks playing in the snow with your Swedish boyfriends Ace of Base soundtrack.
Oh, and now you're being plain silly... Heres a quick resumé of what several countries videos would look like:

USA: A bunch of overweight boys with pink cheeks playing counterstrike in the local internet-café with a Britney Spears soundtrack.

Sweden: A bunch of not-very-talkative boys with pink cheeks playing counterstrike in the local internet-café with an ABBA soundtrack.

Russia: A bunch of scruffy boys all named Ivan with pink cheeks drinking vodka in the local internet-café with a desperate wish for a soundtrack.

Finland: A bunch of not-very-talkative boys with pink cheeks playing counterstrike in the local sauna with a Bomfunk-MC's soundtrack.

Germany: A bunch of beer-drinking boys with pink cheeks playing counterstrike in the local internet-café with a David Hasslehoff soundtrack.

United Kingdom: A bunch of rowdy boys with pink cheeks playing counterstrike in the local pub with a Spice Girls soundtrack.



FFS ALL READERS! WAKE UP AND SMELL THE AWFUL, PUNGENT STENCH OF THE TRUTH, BUT PLEASE MAKE HASTE, I MAY HAVE A SHOWER EVENTUALLY!

RomanS
03-24-2004, 07:34 PM
Jeeeesus f***ing christ Permskii, are you praising the US armed forces? I really thought better of you. Whatever happened to all we acheived during the cold war? Am I the only one who misses the red buttons on each side, complete with shiny signs reading "NUKE RUSSIAN COMMIE SWINE" and "NUKE YANK CAPITALIST DOGS" respectively?! Jesus Christ on rollerskates! What is the world coming to!
You better change your awry ways my Ivan friend our next thing we know you will be sitting in a circle with Chechens, Israelis, Yanks, Palestinians, Baptists and ill-tempered accountants, holding hands and singing old "Jefferson Ariplane" songs and sharing a big, massive "spliff of peace"!

Both countries did some faked up ****. When I was growing up in Russia, my generation wanted the "forbiden fruit". We didnt give a crap about America hating us. We knew US can't do nothing against us, but only hurt us financially. NEVER with a sword.

Same with us, we can't just move our forces to US and take them over.

No country can invade us, and change us. However those who try will have their history changed. So why fight in a winless fight, if we can build a better relation with the other big dog on the block and control the world.

The governments always make fools out of themselves, but the people have to pay for their brain farts. Thats why I no longer listen to them. It feels much better to ignore their hate, mistakes and hunger for power.

American people's hearts are very similar to Russians. We both want freedom, and we both are being hated by the world. Thats because we are constantly in the spot light.

Russians are tired of living in ****, communism, and being tired of surviving another day.

I came to US to learn more about the other power. I was given a place to live, a food to eat, and other privilages. But the best part of US are the people.

We Russians joke about Americans between eachother, but we all agree that Americans are our separated at birth BROTHERS and SISTERS.

UkrainianAmerican
03-24-2004, 07:47 PM
Couldnve said it better. woot

Stavka
03-24-2004, 07:50 PM
Jeeeesus f***ing christ Permskii, are you praising the US armed forces? I really thought better of you. Whatever happened to all we acheived during the cold war? Am I the only one who misses the red buttons on each side, complete with shiny signs reading "NUKE RUSSIAN COMMIE SWINE" and "NUKE YANK CAPITALIST DOGS" respectively?! Jesus Christ on rollerskates! What is the world coming to!
You better change your awry ways my Ivan friend our next thing we know you will be sitting in a circle with Chechens, Israelis, Yanks, Palestinians, Baptists and ill-tempered accountants, holding hands and singing old "Jefferson Ariplane" songs and sharing a big, massive "spliff of peace"!

Both countries did some faked up ****. When I was growing up in Russia, my generation wanted the "forbiden fruit". We didnt give a crap about America hating us. We knew US can't do nothing against us, but only hurt us financially. NEVER with a sword.

Same with us, we can't just move our forces to US and take them over.

No country can invade us, and change us. However those who try will have their history changed. So why fight in a winless fight, if we can build a better relation with the other big dog on the block and control the world.

The governments always make fools out of themselves, but the people have to pay for their brain farts. Thats why I no longer listen to them. It feels much better to ignore their hate, mistakes and hunger for power.

American people's hearts are very similar to Russians. We both want freedom, and we both are being hated by the world. Thats because we are constantly in the spot light.

Russians are tired of living in ****, communism, and being tired of surviving another day.

I came to US to learn more about the other power. I was given a place to live, a food to eat, and other privilages. But the best part of US are the people.

We Russians joke about Americans between eachother, but we all agree that Americans are our separated at birth BROTHERS and SISTERS.

I know Permskii, but you do understand that the lack of smileys in my post doesnt make it any less ironic? ;)

Peace y'all, Im off to head-butt my pillow.

RomanS
03-24-2004, 08:17 PM
pillow biter?

Sleeping Sun
03-25-2004, 12:59 AM
Hey Sun, act like I'm the ignorant baffoon that I believe you think I am and explain, in your words, what the "American" Journalists remarks meant.
We have never spoken of this before, so there is no way that you could have tried to explain it to me. ;-)

I was physically tired, so I went to bed.

Sleeping Sun
03-25-2004, 01:01 AM
Sleeping Sun is a fag

And you're russian!

Sleeping Sun
03-25-2004, 01:05 AM
Ah yes, the great Enlightened Europeans, so lofty, so all knowing, so superior to we unwashed trolls in America. Exactly when does one's DNA mutate, when moving from Europe to America? I mean, since Europe settled America & all, wen did we dun git all steewpid 'n all? Lordy, it jus' hapenned ot me raght naw! Dang it awl...

Not DNA, but culture...
You know, all that pledging allegiance to the flagg and stuff... the general brainwashing which leads to things like FREEDOM FRIES!

Sleeping Sun
03-25-2004, 01:11 AM
Just out of curiosity... could someone show me to a site where I could find the same kind of overpatriotic bs prop. vids. made by for example the brits, french or russians. And no world war two stuff...

Russian Texan
03-25-2004, 01:16 AM
Now, THAT IS ONE HELL OF A MILITARY!

For whatever wrong reason Iraq was invaded, it is done...
American politicians are bunch of crooked lying SOBs but American military....there is something to be proud of...



Гомосеки, take note: that is how real military should be like...

josh10524
03-25-2004, 01:37 AM
HEY HEY HEY HEY HEY


You KIDS need to break this up, it's like my farking school, mexican got socked by an asian, now wa ching is slotting cholos at lunch, THIS BACK AND FORTH BULL AT THE SLIGHTEST EXCUSE IS IMMATURE, PATHETIC, AND REALLY WASTEFUL OF GOOD BANDWIDTH. LOOK: AMERICANS ARE PATRIOTIC AND MAY OVERLOOK QUESTIONABLE ACTIONS BY THOSE WHO REPRESENT THEM. THIS IS NOT LIMITED TO AMERICA. EVERY MEMBER OF A FREE COUNTRY WANTS THEIR COUNTRY TO BE BETTER THAN IT IS. Some of us look for ways to improve it, and are watchful for those who would do things that are wrong in our name. Others of us prefer to put our trust in blind patriotism. I feel for those of us who do, but I don't find the need to call them names, I just want them to open their minds. please try to be constructive and cohenrent in your arguments. thank you.

Sleeping Sun
03-25-2004, 04:34 AM
America's military is mighty powerful, and they have all the rights to make videos of their warriors.

Dear Perm.

Would you be kind enough to tell me
WHAT THE HELL HAS THAT GOT TO DO WITH ANYTHING...??? LMAO rofl rofl rofl rofl

mustamato
03-25-2004, 06:55 AM
Sleeping Sun is a fag

And you're russian!

Ouch, that was low.

n_shanygin
03-25-2004, 07:21 AM
could be true

but


Marmot is ultra Gay

:)

Sleeping Sun
03-25-2004, 08:32 AM
Sleeping Sun is a fag

And you're russian!

Ouch, that was low.

No, that's a fact! ;)

ibstolidude
03-25-2004, 08:55 AM
An American journalist once said -The Americans see the world as they want to see it, the Europeans see the world as it is
Don't kid yourself brother.
I am no fanatic critic of other countries and an ardent US flag waver, but anyone who believes this lacks any vision on European history and/or culture.



And how come your true vision of "the way the world really is" is so tainted by half truths of individuals - so because there was a few knuckle heads that talked of freedom fries and the media exploded on it - or becuase one dude decided to make the above video (as he is graphic artists he has made many of such nature) - I guess the seeing the world they way it really is means blindly following the media (ofcourse while accusing others of the same) You are a joke.

hey you want websites - find me National companies that have changed menu items to freedom fries - YOU made the aqcuasation YOU back it up - or just continue to be discounted for your predjudice and lack of cred.

Sleeping Sun
03-25-2004, 10:39 AM
No national companies just...
http://george.sudarkoff.com/archives/images/freedomfries.jpg
http://www.cnn.com/2003/ALLPOLITICS/03/11/sprj.irq.fries/
http://www.cnn.com/2003/US/South/02/19/offbeat.freedom.fries.ap/


rofl ->http://www.american-freedom-fries.com/<- rofl

I heard somewhere that they would have changed freedom fries back to french fries at least in the cafeterias of the House.

shrek
03-25-2004, 11:44 AM
Wow do I have a question to ask Sleeping Sun!






Why do you frequent this site?


You sound intelligent and maybe even educated, so give me just that, an intelligent, educated answer. Then, if you wish, I will give you my answer to the same question.

ibstolidude
03-25-2004, 05:14 PM
No national companies just...
http://george.sudarkoff.com/archives/images/freedomfries.jpg
http://www.cnn.com/2003/ALLPOLITICS/03/11/sprj.irq.fries/
http://www.cnn.com/2003/US/South/02/19/offbeat.freedom.fries.ap/


rofl ->http://www.american-freedom-fries.com/<- rofl

I heard somewhere that they would have changed freedom fries back to french fries at least in the cafeterias of the House.
From your source -

The name changes were spearheaded by two Republican lawmakers who held a news conference Tuesday to make the name changes official on the menus

"This action today is a small, but symbolic effort to show the strong displeasure of many on Capitol Hill with the actions of our so-called ally, France," said Rep. Bob Ney, R-Ohio, the chairman of the Committee on House Administration.

Ney, whose committee has authority over the House cafeterias, directed the change, after colleague Walter Jones, R-North Carolina, circulated a letter suggesting such a move. Jones said he was following the example of a local restaurant owner in his North Carolina district. - either you are stupid or fail to understand the US House Committee system
- and again were are the population of America eating freedom fires? Were are the National companies?



I'll even warn you - this is a set up
SOOOOO those highly intelectual European countries would never do something like this???? - a government official taking a jib at another nation?

Stavka
03-25-2004, 05:17 PM
No national companies just...
http://george.sudarkoff.com/archives/images/freedomfries.jpg
http://www.cnn.com/2003/ALLPOLITICS/03/11/sprj.irq.fries/
http://www.cnn.com/2003/US/South/02/19/offbeat.freedom.fries.ap/


rofl ->http://www.american-freedom-fries.com/<- rofl

I heard somewhere that they would have changed freedom fries back to french fries at least in the cafeterias of the House.
I'll even warn you - this is a set up
SOOOOO those highly intelectual European countries would never do something like this???? - a government official taking a jib at another nation?


- and again were are the population of America eating freedom fires?

I hope you fellas are aware that French Fries, formerly Freedom Fries, aka French Fries is not even french cuisine? The ever-so-popular Whatever Fries originally come from Belgium.
*end transmission*