kommando spezialkräfte photos (KSK)

[deutschersoldat]

Here are some pictures from the German KSK.



http://www.gsx550.de/ksk/ksk10e.jpg


http://www.gsx550.de/ksk/04a.jpg


http://www.gsx550.de/ksk/ksk_1d.jpg



http://www.gsx550.de/ksk/ksk081.jpg



http://www.gsx550.de/ksk/ksk12e.jpg





http://www.gsx550.de/ksk/KSK_wolf25.jpg



http://www.gsx550.de/ksk/260-18.jpg


http://www.gsx550.de/ksk/milan4.jpg


http://www.gsx550.de/ksk/0ksk11%20mp7%20optik.jpg


http://www.gsx550.de/ksk/ksk077.jpg


http://www.gsx550.de/ksk/ksk_1b.jpg


http://www.gsx550.de/ksk/ksk033.jpg


http://www.gsx550.de/ksk/49.jpg


http://www.gsx550.de/ksk/ksk068.jpg


http://www.gsx550.de/ksk/ksk036.jpg



http://www.gsx550.de/ksk/0ksk5.jpg



http://www.gsx550.de/ksk/ksk043.jpg


http://www.gsx550.de/ksk/ksk14e.jpg


http://www.gsx550.de/ksk/04neu2.jpg


http://www.gsx550.de/ksk/ksk050j.jpg




some pics from afghanistan:



http://www.gsx550.de/ksk/kskpl.jpg


http://www.gsx550.de/ksk/kskhk1.jpg






http://www.gsx550.de/ksk/kskafg1.jpg



they used the hummer, becaus they wanted to hide from the german press

http://www.gsx550.de/ksk/kskafg2.jpg


http://www.gsx550.de/ksk/kskafg3.jpg


http://www.gsx550.de/ksk/KSK_spiegel.jpg




http://www.gsx550.de/ksk/action7afghanksk36k.jpg





thats a new version of the wolf ( Light Infantry Vehicle Special Operations - LIV (SO)) which will be used by the ksk, its armored and it has got
a hk 40mm grenade thrower and mg3 s.


http://www.panzerbaer.de/helper/pix/bw_agf_mb_g270cdi-004.jpg


http://www.panzerbaer.de/helper/pix/bw_agf_mb_g270cdi-001.jpg :backhand:

[16 OBr SpN]

I've met some of those guys.
GREAT soldiers, and really nice guys!

Regards,
16 OBr SpN

[deutschersoldat]

yes? where you from
and where did you see them

[Catch22]

Deutscher - do you have any details (photos) showing the rail that fixes Holosight to G36 carring handle?

It seems that original HK "double sight" is being replaced by KSK with favor to use carring handle in "E" style (single optics) and Holosight HWS (seems like Eotech one to me) combination. Guess Holosight is better for CQB - it has much wider field of wiev than original RD "upper" G36 sight. Generally spec ops G36 now includes much more of picatinny rails form what I've seen... Got more "weapon oriented" photos of KSK, GSG9, SEK or Kampfschwimmers?

[deutschersoldat]

i dont know exactly what you mean, but you can click under this link on "g36"
their you can see the different versions of the weapon and there are many different. i think they ksk are using the versions, which are the best for their different operations.

http://www.gsx550.de/ksk/waffen.htm

[TheJedi]

The KSK is not using the C nor do they use G36 with E-Type handles, from what I've seen so far.

What you see throughout common image material are standard G36K and G36K with exchanged carrying handles (closely resembling the C-Type ones).

[Catch22]

http://www.gsx550.de/ksk/action7afghanksk36k.jpg


:backhand:

Look at the pic and you'll see what I mean. Guys holding G36K with Camocoat applied fitted with front grip, bipod, C-mag. Carrying handle is biger one as in normal G36 - not flat rail as it is in C variant. On top of this handle theres HWS mounted - where normally the HK RedDot sight is (you can see that standard version in other photos up tha page) it also seems that standard single optical scope is on its usual place like in E version (but E version got only x1,5 if I remember) - but I wonder if its still 3x Zeiss scope as issued to Bundeswehr?

BTW. I never suggested that they got G36C so why are you mentioning it?

[Gringo]

The KSK is not using the C nor do they use G36 with E-Type handles, from what I've seen so far.

How do u know? U r not in the KSK r u?

[scm77]

BOOYA! woot

[TheJedi]

The KSK is not using the C nor do they use G36 with E-Type handles, from what I've seen so far.

How do u know? U r not in the KSK r u?

I didn't say there is no possibility that they may be using it,
but the picture material available so far and ongoing discussions in other forums lead to the conclusion that we never saw them using G36C (yet).

[Gringo]

The KSK is not using the C nor do they use G36 with E-Type handles, from what I've seen so far.

How do u know? U r not in the KSK r u?

I didn't say there is no possibility that they may be using it,
but the picture material available so far and ongoing discussions in other forums lead to the conclusion that we never saw them using G36C (yet).

But u said "The KSK is not using the C", if u weren't sure u would say "The KSK may or may not be using the C".

[TheJedi]

Let me rephrase it then, as I'm no native English speaker ;):

There is no evidence nor any proof that KSK is using G36C or E. All evidence that we have (e.g. picture material) seems to show, according to general opinion, G36K and G36K with exchanged carrying handles.

<= That's what my original sentence was supposed to say.

@Catch22: I was mostly posting because the link posted by "deutschersoldat" was irritating me. ;)

You're right about that handle resembling the E-Type. Well... I'm not so sure about that E-Type story now. :oops: However, they must have modified it for the EOTech to fit, I think.

Edit: Just found out that there is an "A2" version of the G36K which has a weaver rail where the original reflex sight was. So it is possible, that the KSK was issued that version first. Just one of many possibilities.

http://www.khs-products.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=112&sid=3f03e3c57d38630a48b2e0f7cb351864

[epc]

I thought KSK stood for "Kampfschwimmerkompanie." Was I wrong, or did they change the name later to "Kommando Spezialkräfte?"

[AirZone]

KSK are badass woot

[TheJedi]

I thought KSK stood for "Kampfschwimmerkompanie." Was I wrong, or did they change the name later to "Kommando Spezialkräfte?"

They just happen to have the same letter combination, but are different units (Kampfschwimmer = Navy, KSK = Army).

[Jester]

I thought KSK stood for "Kampfschwimmerkompanie." Was I wrong, or did they change the name later to "Kommando Spezialkräfte?"
Yes, you´re wrong. KSK stands for "Kommando Spezial Kräfte". KS stand´s for "Kampfschwimmer". They are 2 different Units and there was not changing.
@TheJedi
The KS are not part of the DSO! The DSO is a Army Divison without any Navy elements! The KS now belongs to the BSEK M, which stands for "Bataillon Spezialisierte Einsatzkräfte Marine". This Bn now contains the KS Co, the Mine Clearance Diver Co and the remaining parts of the Naval Security Forces.

Horrido

Jester

[Macs.]

Weapons of the KSK

http://www.deutschesheer.de/relaunch/Contentbase2.nsf/c1256e550036568ac1256982003b7e87/766e26bf1371eda2c1256c7d0043793d/body/0.74E?OpenElement&FieldElemFormat=jpg


.50 BMG with Holosight

http://www.deutschesheer.de/relaunch/Contentbase2.nsf/c1256e550036568ac1256982003b7e87/766e26bf1371eda2c1256c7d0043793d/body/0.3EA8?OpenElement&FieldElemFormat=jpg


Scharfschützengewehr G22 A1 with Night Vision

http://www.deutschesheer.de/relaunch/Contentbase2.nsf/c1256e550036568ac1256982003b7e87/766e26bf1371eda2c1256c7d0043793d/body/0.5446?OpenElement&FieldElemFormat=jpg


Gewehr G36 K (kurz) KSK

http://www.deutschesheer.de/relaunch/Contentbase2.nsf/c1256e550036568ac1256982003b7e87/ea41ad9ac28ca3c7c1256cb700271206/body/0.2FE?OpenElement&FieldElemFormat=jpg


Gewehr G36 K (kurz) KSK

http://www.deutschesheer.de/relaunch/Contentbase2.nsf/c1256e550036568ac1256982003b7e87/766e26bf1371eda2c1256c7d0043793d/body/0.79E6?OpenElement&FieldElemFormat=jpg


-MP5 SD
-MP5 K
-MP5 K PDW
-MP7

[RSK]

Nice pics

[Rantanplan]

http://www.deutschesheer.de/relaunch/Contentbase2.nsf/c1256e550036568ac1256982003b7e87/766e26bf1371eda2c1256c7d0043793d/body/0.74E?OpenElement&FieldElemFormat=jpg

:lol: thats fvcking cool

[seventy6er]

Looking forward to the KSK-book that's about to be released next month. Then we'll have some new KSK-pics; the pics shown are old.

http://images-eu.amazon.com/images/P/3613023849.03.LZZZZZZZ.jpg

http://images-eu.amazon.com/images/P/3613023849.03.IN01.LZZZZZZZ.jpg

http://images-eu.amazon.com/images/P/3613023849.03.IN02.LZZZZZZZ.jpg

http://images-eu.amazon.com/images/P/3613023849.03.IN03.LZZZZZZZ.jpg

http://images-eu.amazon.com/images/P/3613023849.03.IN05.LZZZZZZZ.jpg

http://images-eu.amazon.com/images/P/3613023849.03.IN06.LZZZZZZZ.jpg

http://images-eu.amazon.com/images/P/3613023849.03.IN07.LZZZZZZZ.jpg

http://images-eu.amazon.com/images/P/3613023849.03.IN08.LZZZZZZZ.jpg

[ßå$tĮТHÏ¿ð]

good call 76'er...
feel free to post em if you get your hands on them :D

[Rantanplan]

http://instagiber.net/smiliesdotcom/cwm/cwm/eek2.gif

[seventy6er]

http://instagiber.net/smiliesdotcom/cwm/cwm/eek2.gif

???

[Rilence]

http://instagiber.net/smiliesdotcom/cwm/cwm/eek2.gif
......................

[Rantanplan]

http://instagiber.net/smiliesdotcom/cwm/cwm/eek2.gif

???

Damit will ich mein Erstaunen über das geile Buch ausdrücken. ;)

[seventy6er]

Ah ok. Habe es mir schon vorbestellt. Kostet 29,90 € beim Motorbuchverlag (oder direkt bei amazon).

[Rantanplan]

Ja danke. Ich hab gerade bei Amazon nachgeschaut. 30 euro geht ja noch aber vieleicht gibts es das Buch bei Mayersche billiger wenn es erscheint.

[LJK]

Nice pictures. Those pics from the magazine are badass. :P

[Gringo]

qué?

[Rantanplan]

Cet livre est très bien et il coûts 29,99 a la Amazon.de

[hedgehog]

http://www.deutschesheer.de/C1256B6C002D670C/CurrentBaseLink/04694C971F1C41F9C1256C7D00369566

There are some more pictures there.. just click on the different categories

[fantassin]

The MILAN team is positively NOT KSK.

It's a French army unit; it's obvious from their F1 helmet with synthetic camouflage, F1 day pack, the aerial from the TRPP11 radio set slung around the neck and the olive green uniforms.

The pic was probably taken in Chad.

[Kitsune]

It's correct, Kampfschwimmer and Kommando Spezialkräfte are two different units, always have been (that KSK would stand for "Kampfschwimmer Kompanie is a misinformation). Actually the Kampfschwimmer have been founded well before KSK and are a very tough elite unit (motto: "Lerne leiden ohne zu klagen"/"Learn to suffer without lament") which is quite small, there are only 30 to 40 of them with "Combat Ready" Status at any given time. They are in the process of being restructured by the way, and will be part of the so called SEK-M (Sondereinsatzkommando - Marine...we Germans know how to make things short and snappy :lol: ) in the near future.

[elguapo]

http://cache.*****images.com/comp/1164315.jpg?x=x&dasite=MS_GINS&ef=2&ev=1&dareq=E2399169AC85D6DEC8D62EA9AEE736263AFB04C0303B579A

http://cache.*****images.com/comp/1164310.jpg?x=x&dasite=MS_GINS&ef=2&ev=1&dareq=E2399169AC85D6DEC8D62EA9AEE736267727B9E74089F202

[fantassin]

The KS are even less than 40; they are about 25 combat-ready members at the moment.

As far as the KSK is concerned, it's not doing too well at the moment; they have difficulties recruiting, there has been reports in German papers that they wanted a pay rise because they are often away from home and subjected to strenuous training and their moral is not exactly sky-high right now.

Not talking about the equipment (not the cheap stuff like sexed up G36); no specific, modern helos (HH60 or Cougar Mk2 types), problems with their Ram air parachutes, low aircraft availability to jump...

[Shadow]

The KS are even less than 40; they are about 25 combat-ready members at the moment.


Lol, but we had 100 of them in Afghanistan.

[Jester]

The KS were not involved in Afghanistan, only KSK operators!

Horrido

Jester

[Shadow]

Ah sorry I thought he meant KSK with KS.
Every military or combat related word has to start with "K" lol (Kämpfen KRieg Killen Kompanie Komando..);)
KomandoSpezialKriegsKampfkillerkompanie (KSKKKK) D:

[Panzermeyer]

http://www.gsx550.de/ksk/kskhk1.jpg

Definitiv no KSK-Operator. This is an Advertising Picture of these company:
Survival-Equipment.de (http://www.survivalequipment.de)

and it has shown before the Operation Enduring Freedom.


Panzermeyer

[Panzermeyer]

They are in the process of being restructured by the way, and will be part of the so called SEK-M (Sondereinsatzkommando - Marine...we Germans know how to make things short and snappy ) in the near future.

Sorry, but SEK-M
means Spezialisierte Einsatzkräfte Marine.

source: http://www.eckernfoerder-zeitung.de/2003/06/19/eck2003061901.asp

Panzermeyer

[Jester]

And it isn´t the name which is used now! SEK M Was the "working name" during the planing phase. It is now called BSEK M.

Jester

[deutschersoldat]

The MILAN team is positively NOT KSK.

It's a French army unit; it's obvious from their F1 helmet with synthetic camouflage, F1 day pack, the aerial from the TRPP11 radio set slung around the neck and the olive green uniforms.

The pic was probably taken in Chad.


http://www.gsx550.de/ksk/ksk068.jpg


why do you think that they are not german?
It is rigth that they are not from the ksk, but from the kampfschwimmer.
And they use g36 and milan like them and they wear TARNFleck.

[AVZ]

misunderstanding

fantassin meant this pic's:
http://www.gsx550.de/ksk/milan4.jpg

;) glad to have helped and cleared that out

[deutschersoldat]

ok ^^

[Thomsen]

http://onnachrichten.t-online.de/c/17/17/80/1717802,tid=t.jpg
http://www.bundeswehr.de/pic/forces/heer/040205_500_gal_ksk_05.jpg
http://www.bundeswehr.de/pic/forces/heer/040205_500_gal_ksk_06.jpg

KSK-Members during a show for chancellor Schroeder.

[deutschersoldat]

the ksk should take over schröders government to put a better on his place

[Jester]

R U nuts?

[deutschersoldat]

what does that mean

[OldRecon]

what does that mean
The army shall not mess with internal politics of the state!!!
Period! :bash:
Would you like to be emeshed with domestic social support policy problems if you were a professional soldier/officer?
National policy is more than the f**in welfare of the army.

[fantassin]

Apparently, the German Navy should re-create a Naval Infantry of some sort after having disbanded its previous such units only a few years ago.
Not for amphibious assault, more to keep ships safe during port calls while on deployments and also to do shore patrols. The overall unit should be around battalion strength.

The German Navy also hopes to get its first amphibious vessel by around 2010; if the defence budget in Germany keeps on being cut like it is know, it is doubtful they'll get it.

BTW, RAIDS did an excellent article about the German Kampf schwimmer about ten years ago with many never released before pics...

[deutschersoldat]

by the way it was a joke old recon, because i dont like the german government.


where you from fantassin? because you are so good informe of the german navy.

[fantassin]

Ich bin von Frankreich !

[seventy6er]

BTW, RAIDS did an excellent article about the German Kampf schwimmer about ten years ago with many never released before pics...

Could you scan the article and post it here or send it via email??

[fantassin]

Sorry, I am currently out of my country of origin and for quite along time... ;)

But the "Histoire et Collections" publishing company that produces RAIDS has announced the publication of a book dedicated to combat swimmers in 2005 I think. The KS should be in there and they'll do it, as often, in French and English.

[seventy6er]

Ok, you can keep us updated, eh? ;)

[fantassin]

I do my best without breaking OPSEC.... :D

[CanadianAction]

These KS and KSK pictures are very nice indeed.
I really like those G36 rifles. It seems that they are using a special ventilated handgard on the G36 that I have never seen before... Is it only issued for desert warfare ?

Keep up the good work...
And as you guys say @Danke shon@ (is that it ?)

[deutschersoldat]

http://cache.*****images.com/comp/2896074.jpg?x=x&dasite=MS_GINS&ef=2&ev=1&dareq=9902C59170CF1ADD2DBEB53095C54FF1.jpg

thats a ksk guy while a visit of a german politician

[Kitsune]

@fantassin:

The KS are even less than 40; they are about 25 combat-ready members at the moment.

As far as the KSK is concerned, it's not doing too well at the moment; they have difficulties recruiting, there has been reports in German papers that they wanted a pay rise because they are often away from home and subjected to strenuous training and their moral is not exactly sky-high right now.

Not talking about the equipment (not the cheap stuff like sexed up G36); no specific, modern helos (HH60 or Cougar Mk2 types), problems with their Ram air parachutes, low aircraft availability to jump...

As far as choopers are concerned, they will get the NH 90 soon, that will rectify that problem.
As far as the rest is concerned, its the same problem the SAS (and other units of this type) are facing right now...recruiting is a problem cause some decide to leave KSK and to join some of the now forming mercenary outfits (or security companies, whatever you call them). The pay is better! And replacing them is not easy, because standards are very high, indeed. KSK was planned to have a strength of 1000, but it will not reach that in the near future.
But I think thats better than going down with quality requirements.

Equipment is top notch, truly. They are the only part of Bundeswehr, that gets what they want. Especially their "shooting ranges" (computerized, videoscreened, equipped to train any situation from one on one to full scale storming attacks, are awesome). But pay is another matter...its not that different from typical military pay, and thats not overly generous.

[Kitsune]

@CanadianAction:

It is : "Danke schön" or "Danke sehr" (the last one needs no "ö"). ;)

[tony6]

KSK was planned to have a strength of 1000
???
Didn't You overreacted with those zeros? :D
I mean-You know what they say about SF:
eihter are they numerous or special.

[Macs.]

http://cache.*****images.com/comp/2896074.jpg?x=x&dasite=MS_GINS&ef=2&ev=1&dareq=9902C59170CF1ADD2DBEB53095C54FF1.jpg

thats a ksk guy while a visit of a german politician

Thats definetly not a KSK-Soldier.

Its some sort of MP-Special Unit Member.

[deutschersoldat]

tell me why do you think it

[fantassin]

The figure of 1,000 was quoted in several articles and AFAIK, was also evocated as the goal to reach by the German Army.

[Pille1234]

http://cache.*****images.com/comp/2896074.jpg?x=x&dasite=MS_GINS&ef=2&ev=1&dareq=9902C59170CF1ADD2DBEB53095C54FF1.jpg

thats a ksk guy while a visit of a german politician

Thats definetly not a KSK-Soldier.

Its some sort of MP-Special Unit Member.

and btw it's not a visit of a german politican but the change of command procedure in Kabul, must be about jan or feb 04.

[Kitsune]

@tony6:

fantassin wrote:
The figure of 1,000 was quoted in several articles and AFAIK, was also evocated as the goal to reach by the German Army.

It was indeed.

tony6 wrote:

I mean-You know what they say about SF:
eihter are they numerous or special.
Tell that to the US Armed Forces. ;)
As for KSK, as I said, because of their high standards they did not even come close to reach that goal.

[Groove]

About KSK Motivation:

There was a interview in the german magazine SPIEGEL with a KSK Soldier.

KSK did many recon down in Afghanistan but as soon as there was a possible "high value" target that the KSK Operators spotted they had of course to radio it to the HQ and as soon as possible the American SF`s came and said "thx KSK - its our job now".

There was big motivation knockdown because the American wanted to catch "big fishes" for themselfes. Just imagine KSK or any other SFs which are not from USA would catch bin Laden - THAT IS IMPOSSIBLE ! ;)

Greetings

Groove

[fantassin]

That confirms what I was told by a friend who was in Afghanistan; as soon as a contact was expected in an area where Germans or Danes were operating, they were moved to another area and replaced by US troops.

That could also be "national restrictions" agreed on secretly between governments.

That also applied to the Danish F-16s that were providing CAS there.

[Tygryssek]

http://cache.*****images.com/comp/2896074.jpg?x=x&dasite=MS_GINS&ef=2&ev=1&dareq=9902C59170CF1ADD2DBEB53095C54FF1.jpg

Ben Affleck :lol:

Hiding himself because J. LO is angry. :lol:

[Panzermeyer]

http://cache.*****images.com/comp/2896074.jpg?x=x&dasite=MS_GINS&ef=2&ev=1&dareq=9902C59170CF1ADD2DBEB53095C54FF1.jpg

thats a ksk guy while a visit of a german politician

Thats definetly not a KSK-Soldier.

Its some sort of MP-Special Unit Member.

This is definetly a KSK Soldier.
He is an OFw (Oberfeldwebel) , former Airborne.

Panzermeyer

[Pille1234]

This is definetly a KSK Soldier.
He is an OFw (Oberfeldwebel) , former Airborne.

Panzermeyer
So you know him personally?

[DeltaWhisky58]

Calm down children, stop bickering. ;)

[Panzermeyer]

This is definetly a KSK Soldier.
He is an OFw (Oberfeldwebel) , former Airborne.

Panzermeyer
So you know him personally?

Know a comrade of him.


Panzermeyer

[Pille1234]

This is definetly a KSK Soldier.
He is an OFw (Oberfeldwebel) , former Airborne.

Panzermeyer
So you know him personally?

Know a comrade of him.


Panzermeyer

Sure. Look, He219 just found another KSK comrade ;)

http://cache.*****images.com/comp/2875543.jpg?x=x&dasite=MS_GINS&ef=2&ev=1&dareq=09924664A99795023D36CA9CBF829B3C

[deutschersoldat]

from where do you get this "*****images" pictures, can you post me an ecaxt link o th galaries?