United Cutlery

[Frens]

anyone has experience with their folders? junk or not?

[TacoDelRio]

PIECES OF CRAP.

Caps lock important to emphasize their extreme lack of quality. Don't bother wasting breath arguing this either.

That is, unless, you intend to keep it on display. You know, just for decoration.

[Frens]

PIECES OF CRAP.

Caps lock important to emphasize their extreme lack of quality. Don't bother wasting breath arguing this either.

That is, unless, you intend to keep it on display. You know, just for decoration.

:hug: thanks that's exactly the info I was looking for.




ok now another question: lot of good brands (CRKT for example) use this kind of lock on some of their folder. are frame locks safe/sturdy?

[TacoDelRio]

Liner locks?

Liner locks are OK. I don't personally trust them, preferring the Spyderco backlock kinda deal a lot more if you're doing something more strenuous than peeling an orange or normal daily stuff like opening boxes.

Frame locks are similar but I kinda get lost in their difference if someone wants to educate me.

In the end, for a knife for life (as in, camping, hunting, hiking, military police, in addition to everyday carry EDC), go with a different locking system unless this liner is BEEFY.

[Frens]

I'm looking for a small inexpensive folding knife to carry everyday (not for heavy duty, mil or leo)

I saw this CRKT knife but I don't know how safe/sturdy this kind of locking system is...
http://69.20.48.11/ProductImages/CR5510.jpghttp://www.knifestuff.com/columbia_river/metal/frame_lock.jpg

[TacoDelRio]

I used to sell knives, guns, and other hunting/fishing/etc goods.

The CRKT KISS series ain't that bad. It's an OK EDC knife. Tanto points are all the rage, which roughly translates into it being useless for everyday carry :). The tanto point doesn't really truly lend itself well to much other than penetration, so I'd suggest any other point style. I personally like drop, clip, and spear points. These don't have a sharp 30-45 degree upward angle in the blade, and are therefore easier to sharpen and give you more "working surface" on a knife with the same blade length.

The KISS as pictured (that model there) is alright. I'd personally go with a Spyderco of some sort ($50-75 bucks), preferably all metal, as the plastic ones break more often. Their all-metal Endura/Delica's are GREAT EDC's. I suggest VG10 blades as they hold an edge longer, and aren't a bitch to sharpen.

Lemme know if you have any other questions. Have a good one.

[Frens]

thank You so much MrSkorotsnoy for all the interesting info!

[TacoDelRio]

No problem dude. I know too much about this stuff, I need to get a life.

[ErinMT]

The newest version of the Spyderco Endura and Delica are wonderful. Tough steel, great ergonomics, crisp lock, grippy handles...

And for around $60-80 it's an impressive bargain.

[HoboWithAK]

I'm looking for a small inexpensive folding knife to carry everyday (not for heavy duty, mil or leo)

I saw this CRKT knife but I don't know how safe/sturdy this kind of locking system is...
http://69.20.48.11/ProductImages/CR5510.jpghttp://www.knifestuff.com/columbia_river/metal/frame_lock.jpg

Everyday carry, a nice liner lock will do. If you are going to be doing anything strenuous, get a stronger locking mech. I've seen employees doing stupid things with liner locks, and seen them fail. One guy was using it as a punch while on a roof, the lock failed and it closed on his hand. He was lucky it was pretty dull and it didn't close on his fingers. I've never seen bar locks or stronger types of locks fail on people who were abusing them.

Or you could just not abuse your knife. In my line of work, it gets abused. I could climb down there, run to the truck and get the proper tool, or I could save myself 8 minutes and just use my knife...

[Mojo]

Well, that's because knives are for cutting and not for prying, punching, etc. unless you get a Strider or something. Personally, i have never had a problem with liners and from my experience, those that failed were not on good knives to begin with.
Benchmade has recently upgraded their line of knives with better steel
(154CM, S30V) They are slightly better that Spyderco and most havn very tough liners or their patented Axis lock, which lends to a lot of messing around with when you are bored. They come in quite a few configurations, though i would go with and osbourne 940 series or a Pardue Griptilian.

Hope this helps.

[Frens]

what about Boker? I see their blades are made in Taiwan :roll:

[a deadly fart]

I too would recomend Spyderco and Benchmade knives. Spyderco I'd say has better bang for your buck knives but Benchmade is challanging that ever since they switched their griptilians over to 154cm steel. I started off with a crkt m16 and it works fine but be weary as they have chosen to use some cheaper steels the last few years. As for linerlocks... they can be perfectly fine locks if they are well made like the almar sere2000. For the made in Taiwan remark... I think it doesnt really matter where it is made, it depends if the mother company is serious about quality control or not. I believe crkt has some if not a lot of their knives made from Taiwan. Spyderco has their byrd line made from China and those are some pretty good knives too. Hop over to bladeforums.com or knifeforums.com for more info.

[TacoDelRio]

Just as a side topic, if you go Spyderco, I suggest their all metal or non-FRN handles, as I've had several returns on FRN handles breaking after a few years. The metal ones don't break. The G10 or micarta ones are good too. Carbon fiber ones came out after I was out of that business.

Benchmade: Stay away from RED CLASS knives. They are there for folks who want to feel happy about being modest (read: buying a cheap knife from an expensive company). They are foreign made, and aren't all that great. Black class is their working class. The Presidio and other axis locks are very sturdy and strong, and have the best locking system out there in my opinion.

I like Spydercos the most, as their workmanship is excellent and they've grown on me. You're buying a really good EDC knife for less than $100 in most cases, which is an acceptable price for most knife using folks.

I apologise for any spelling errors.