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jpg
07-02-2006, 12:23 AM
This is a question for those of you in harms way. I am the first to argue about equipment. Most civilians do this. In the end, if your rifle and pistol fire, are acceptably accurate, your clothing fits, your boots don't give you blisters, your body armor stops up to and including .308 AND you get three flavors of ice cream at the chow hall (from PBS FRONTLINE), do you care who makes what you are carrying?

JPG

HKaholic

James
07-02-2006, 01:27 AM
No, not really. Airsofters and civilians seem to know more details about gear than guys who actually use it every day.

California Joe
07-02-2006, 01:42 AM
James is wise.

I have a buddy that was an army sniper in the first gulf war, 101st I believe. He won a bronze star for saving a bunch of guys by shooting up a suicide truck on a bombing run. When I asked him about his rifle etc he just said, you know the issued one. Didn't get all technical and crap, didn't even care. He used to tell the armchair types that he was a cook.

Kerpan
07-02-2006, 01:56 AM
yeah, and think about some of the reasons to join the army. pay for college etc. I considered it and i don't think i would've been interested in my gear, but more with what im doin with it

Nevins
07-02-2006, 03:25 AM
hmm, i think it has more to do with the person
my dad was in the Army for 22 years ret. as a 1st sgt and he was/is a gun guy(not untill he joined), he has a pretty vast knowledge of weapons and when he tells stories (not often) he knows who carried what and what it was, how it operates, and other things like that . he also knows gear..like he could look at a peice of gear at a yard sale, something i have never seen before, and know exactly what it was used for and so on.
and i'v met people that didnt know really anything about what they were issued(or the forgot what it was)..they just used it. so i guess if your into the stuff your gunna know more about it.

SMGLee
07-02-2006, 06:03 AM
more or less the issue gun is a way so he doesn't have to talk about it.. they tend to deal with things day in and day out.

Almost every one i know within the communities will have somethng to say about the equipment they have and have some indepth knowledge on them. in order for them to extend the equipment's full potential, they will understand and learn the weapon.

Maybe it don't matter which sight is better, or which chest rig look the coolest or what rail system is the best.. they get thier equipment and they make it work, in the case of my friends, they buy the equipment they want so they tend to know what the market has to offer.

Ngati Tumatauenga
07-02-2006, 06:47 AM
As long as my tooth brush is nice and sharp, I don't give a **** about anything else.

gaijinsamurai
07-02-2006, 07:37 AM
Well, some stuff I do take an interest in, especially if I end up buying it myself. Boots and knives particularly come to mind.

blueheaven79
07-02-2006, 08:20 AM
well good for you guys we dont get all these in singapore .

akmarksman
07-02-2006, 08:52 AM
The only time you care about your equipment is when it fails..usually when you need it most(despite how much maint.you performed on it).

"mother^%*&^% mag!"..*throws*
*locks in a new one..continues firing*

Durandal
07-02-2006, 09:27 AM
He used to tell the armchair types that he was a cook.

That's fantastic...

Caveman
07-02-2006, 11:23 AM
I allready have a list of things I will buy when I go home for the next time I come back to Iraq or wherever my unit deploys to. The army does issue some good gear but alot is worthless.

Roy Batty
07-02-2006, 11:26 AM
I really don't give a ****e who made my kit as long as I can count on it. It also helps if it's not older than I am ( like the Browning Hi-Power they issued me ). In the end if I buy kit of my own I look for functionality not name brand.

ClydeFrog
07-02-2006, 11:49 AM
well good for you guys we dont get all these in singapore .
You don't get tooth brushes in Singapore? Damn.

East Scout
07-02-2006, 02:04 PM
hmm, i think it has more to do with the person

I agree.......

Icarus1
07-02-2006, 02:11 PM
I always was very intrested in gear and usually only use tested and reliable stuff, but never complained about the issued gear. We just used what we got. I think the improvisation skills are a very important thing. Damn, we had some crap in basic training you would never use if your life depends on it (we had american radios from Vietnam war era, old M113 who failed all the time etc), but when you also can work with this peac of crap, you can do it with better gear all the time. We had a good rifle (SIG 551), great boots, the LBE was acceptable, the ruck was absolutely horrible and made you bleeding shoulders the first few weeks. After basic we got Lowe rucks... and we felt like flying because the shoulder straps had a soft layer. I like good equipment, but complaining doesn't help if you have to use it.

Hollis
07-02-2006, 02:26 PM
I really don't give a ****e who made my kit as long as I can count on it. It also helps if it's not older than I am ( like the Browning Hi-Power they issued me ). In the end if I buy kit of my own I look for functionality not name brand.

LOL. In training I would pick up the 1911s and shake them, the one that rattled less is the one I would pick to shoot that day.

Yep air softer and reenactor really know what gear is what, who made it etc.

I lived in Arkansas once and pick up a trait there, made since to me. About huntin' Dawgs... a person can memorize and know all the pages of stats that goes with the dog and breed........ all of that is meaning less when all one needs to do is ask just one question, "Does that dog hunt?"


edited to add, Maybe there are more choices today. When I was in it was what we were issued or scourged. I never knew who made my boots, cloths etc.

Creeper
07-02-2006, 05:38 PM
FWIW> I had to correct a Army CPT (NG-SF) with his class A- Jackett,, the problem: The rank bars were sideways.
No big deal, but I was LMFAO later on.

Deuterium
07-02-2006, 10:01 PM
There are two things that SF does very poorly when compared to the regular Army, D&C and AR-670-1 items. The scariest thing in the world is to watch an SF Group during GP CofC. I can count the number of times on two hands in 23 years I had to put on my Class-As (exlcudes Group balls and dining ins, they were Blues). I can count on one hand the number of times I had to march in 23 years.......And I was a 1SG.

LaoSexMachine
07-02-2006, 10:06 PM
I didn't care about where it came from. As long as I had extra socks and MREs I was happy.

jpg
07-03-2006, 12:30 AM
This is exactly what I thought. None of my friends in or back from Iraq had anything overly negative to say about their equipment.

It seems what they really needed was something to keep their water cold.

JPG

Connor Oz
07-03-2006, 05:15 PM
But the closer the water temperature is to your core temperature the more and quicker it helps you, but when your tired and hot cold water is also awesome.