SR-25 w/203

[cover2]

Hi all,

In reading the book "Robert's Ridge" by Malcolm MacPherson, he describes the Seal team involved as being armed with an M4, an M60 (I assume E4), a SAW (Robert's weapon), another M4 for Chapman (the CCT), and then the other three Seals had SR-25s with 203's under them. While I don't doubt that they could be mounted there, as they have the RIS, I've never seen a pic of this combo. It would also mean the removal of the bipod on the SR. Anyone else here ever seen such a pic?

I only question it b/c some of the author's descriptions of events just don't seem to make sense (I'd say he's not quite as good/thorough a writer as Mark Bowden), as when Slab ran out of 203 rounds and threw the launcher down into the snow (yet he hadn't fired many rifle rounds, so throwing down the 203 would also mean throwing down the rifle, leaving him with nothing but a sig pistol, which would seem a strange thing to do!). Any help appreciated. Thanks.

Rob

[Anthony91]

You do know that the M203 has a QD mount {SOPMOD Kit} and takes just seconds to take it off.

[Beckett]

seems like every book you read there packing something diffrent. roberts ridge was the only that said SR25s with M203s, who the **** knows.

[GoSka37]

You do know that the M203 has a QD mount {SOPMOD Kit} and takes just seconds to take it off.


But what's the point of taking off a perfectly good piece of equiptment ant LEAVING IT IN THE SNOW?!

This book already sounds awful... but either way i'm sure there are some people out there that put 203's on their SR25's

[DE_Six]

I'd like to see pics, how do you mount a 203 on a Mk.11?

The QD barrel mount's "ring" is designed to fit the notch in the M4 barrel, or the slimmer part of an M16A2/3's barrel under the handguard. Can it wrap around the Mk.11's barrel? What about the Mk.11's RIS? Does it have a removeable 6 o'clock rail? I thought it was a free-floating one-piece design.

The only option I can think of is LMT's M203 with triple rail-grabber mount.

Perhaps the weapon in question is rather an M79, then it would be possible to discard it and switch to carbine, and the author simply calls any GL a "203"...
The M203 has a QD mount, but it's not that simple to take it on and off. Remove the launcher, remove the barrel mount, put the bottom rail in its place...and then toss it in the snow? Why would someone go through all this while under fire, on account that it's out of ammo? Why not leave it on and just blast away with the carbine? I don't know, but it doesn't make a lot of sense to me...

[Anthony91]

But what's the point of taking off a perfectly good piece of equiptment ant LEAVING IT IN THE SNOW?!

This book already sounds awful... but either way i'm sure there are some people out there that put 203's on their SR25's

Umm....the M203 is heavy, he wanted to take it off. Duh. rofl

[GoSka37]

Umm....the M203 is heavy, he wanted to take it off. Duh. rofl

And that would be the retarded answer i'd expect to get from a 14 year old. If you decided to put a freaking M203 on the weapon in the first place you better be able to carry the bastard around even after running out of rounds. And dropping it in the snow, leaving it behind(I assume) Is just a waste of $601 (unite replacement cost)

DE6:

I guess there are some variations of the M203 that actually goes ont he bottom rail itself...

Like this....

http://www.modelguns.co.uk/images/m4rism203m.jpg

[DE_Six]

Yeah, this is like the LMT M203 rail-grabber mount I mentioned. The above link is airsoft though.

I am not aware of this particular LMT model being issued, but this being SOF, anything is possible.

Here's a link to said M203. It's designed to mate with LMT's MRP upper. It cannot be mounted propoerly on an M4 RIS, as the fore clamp sits under the gas block, forward of the rail. A Mk.11's full length RIS would do, though.

http://www.lewismachine.net/product.php?p=8&cid=10&session=f4fd717ff89799bab1b2fce9226ca890

[cover2]

Didn't think I'd get so many responses! Thanks for all the info.

I hit the author's website for the book (www.robertsridge.com (http://www.robertsridge.com)) and there's a pic there of an SR-25 "just like Slab's", but it lacks a 203 and even lacks the RIS, just a round handguard.

I have no idea how correct or incorrect the descriptions of the equipment are. But he does constantly refer to them as "sniper rifles", so I don't think they were M4's. It's also possible he got a detail wrong and Slab did not "throw his 203 into the snow". Maybe he felt like doing that, and the author misquoted him.

The book is okay, but far from a literary masterpiece.

Rob

[SMGLee]

There was a batch SR25k in the Mk11 form... FF/RAS, 16inch barrel, Crane stock, flip up front and rear and MK11 suppressor mount that was field...

it might be able to accept a rail mounted M203...

But that is just my amature guess....:)

[maw]

the early sr-25's deployed with the army oda's were 24 inch barreled and had the carbon fiber/glass fiber fore-ends. all of the most recent ones have been with a ras and more recently the kac ucx. the d boys went with the much more capable light weight match with 20" and some 24" barrels. there's a pic in the archives on this site of an operator in afghanistan on a roof with one of the 24" guns.

personally i have no real interest in knowing what Neil Roberts' teammates were carrying when he was killed, i find that kind of stuff kinda morbid. but each to his own. it's safe to assume that if they were carrying sr-25's they would probably have been nsn spec'd mk11's. as for the 203 thing, the mk11 or widow maker is really nose heavy adding a 203 would only make this worse. i don't care how big your biceps are, humping that thing for miles in the mountains of southern afghanistan seems like an unnecessary compromise. the mk11 is a precision rifle, sticking 203 would screw with the bipod which kind of messes with the whole precision thing. a popular loadout for nsw snipers early on in the campaign (before the mk12 ammo got dialed in) was to carry a mk11 and a m4 with a 10.5" upper. i would have thought that it would've made more sense to mount the ras friendly 203 to the short barreled m4 for short range engagements and keep the mk11 setup for its primary purpose: distribution of hate and discontent at extreme range.

cover2: i don't have any pics of a sr-25 with a 203. but here's a link to some pics i uploaded to pbase a while back for someone else on this forum.
http://www.pbase.com/yeedude/mk11